/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

What double standards? Nijisanji does outside collabs all the time, there's nothing new here

>very welcomed
More like tolerated. Nijisanji has collabed with Vshojo before and it's pointless to kvetch about it now when it didn't kill the company last time. If it gets the fish publicity then sure, whatever, no point raising a stink about it.

>>4774587
No one of worth cares about Fish.

maybe because hololive is an idol company while nijisanji is a streamer company
you guys can't even pkay NKODICE

No one actually cares about the fish, they just want to fuck her.

>>4774634
NOT TRUE! I LOVE FISH FOR HER PERSONALITY!

Scarra? I just remembered him just publicly tweeting Gura to setup Sykkuno.
https://twitter.com/scarra/status/1322823757971402752?lang=en

>>4774634
Like you wouldn't believe.

>>4774648
But do you want to pleasure yourself with that fish?

>>4774587
>Mori
it's because she wants to collab with anitubers she gets dicked down by IRL.

>Kiara
wanted/wants to collab with a literal bitch who doesn't know jack shit about Hololive and refuses to apologize for getting shit blatantly wrong.

>Finana
isn't claiming to be an idol nor is she a Holo thus isn't held to that standard.

>>4774587
I remember someone saying that Hololive is incredibly inbred due to their increasing inability to collab outside of their company (barring the few exceptions of course) nowadays, which is odd since they had frequent collabs outside during the pre-2020s.

>>4774675
this >>4774671

>>4774675
I want to binge on Finana.

>>4774675
Shut it, Spinzaku.

>>4774587
>shit in the toilet
>shit on the kitchen counter

>>4774634
Yes. Who wouldn't?

>>4774743
Had any drawAnon made this for her ?

>>4774719
Things changed, being prohibited of collabing with Mea is why aqua became depressed

>>4774719
This isn't really true. They do. They constantly do but they don't do it on their channels anymore. Usually on the other person's channel. The only people that constantly feature other people on their channel now are Matsuri and Towa because of Apex. So you have to follow all of them on Twitter to actually know.

>>4774587
If you haven't noticed, most people here are interested in Hololive and only Hololive.
Now, I don't know why the Nijifans here would be okay with a Trojan horse like Scarra, but you do you, I guess. That crew is just a bad time all around.

>>4774648
Dont lie to urself anon. NijiEN is all about SEEEEEEEXXXXXXXCPOMUPEROPEROPEROPERO

>>4774634
This is an oxymoron.
I care about her by virtue of me wanting to fuck her (among others).

>>4774813
As long as they don't try to leech on her is ok, although I don't think it's even possible for her to fuck up so bad that collab with bottom feeders take over her channel

>>4774813
NijiEN thread was fine with him.

>>4774924
They shouldn't be. And he's the tamest one of the lot. Even Gigguk had good enough sense not to talk about it, at least not that I know of.
But again, not the lawn I'm concerned about.

>>4774587
so they are going for the LSF/dramafags now eh?

>>4774587
Yeah, theres a literal difference. Fuck yourself

>>4775046
I don't care about Scarra but I find it funny this board loves to dig up the past of everyone yet decries SJW cancel culture

>>4774587
I wish people stopped treating NijiEN like they're HoloEN Gen 1.5

>>4774587
Who? One matters the other doesn’t. You actually need an audience for them to react to something. Face it, Brapfish practically doesn’t exist.

>>4774587
Because HoloEN actually has fans to care about this stuff. Hard for people to criticize NijiEN when nobody is watching it.

>>4775208
Because it's war

>>4775249
>>4775256
Claiming there's no drama because people don't care is the weirdest coping I've seen yet, although you holoniggers apparently love having something to bitch about on a daily basis

>>4775208
>the past
>barely over a week a year ago
>still relevant
>While I think it's not a creator's responsibility to be an activist, it's also ok to be more sometimes

You don't understand what cancel culture means. If you said nigger when you were 16 and that's the impetus to get you fired at 30, that's cancel culture.
Being concerned about a content creator urging his peers to be political activists is not cancel culture.

>>4775282
What the fuck is a NijiEN? Bitch you don’t matter, not even in the conversation. Fuck off and play with Shartemis you irrelevant fucks.

>>4775282
go back to your sectioned off ghetto nijinigger or I will call in my shock troops for Kristallnacht part 2.

>>4775307
Anon I don't know how to tell you this but that says May 2020. Various streamers were tweeting about it at the time and stopped after June/July; I don't give a shit as long as I don't have to see it in my feed on a regular basis.

>>4775046
>BLM
Oh boohoo, you delicate /pol/ tourists need to go back

>>4774648
Luckily her personality is "mesugaki"

you don't want to be treated as an idol? then get out of the idol company

>>4774587
If Finana wanted to collab with someone who shittalked Nijisanji like Veibae did Hololive I'm sure people would be mad. Aside from that, Niji just has less schizos, or at least a different kind.

>>4775389
Notice how my issue isn't the BLM part, but the urging of being political activists part? Try being less brain damaged.

Its just holotards who bought the whole idol bullshit Cover peddles, that's all.
You're talking about lonely loser virgin faggots who want to pretend some of the girls are their girlfriend for godsakes.

>>4775307
You could have not searched his twitter like a harpy the same way other harpies could just not search the post histories of their 30 year old employees.

>>4775344
You sound 16 at the oldest. I hope you aren't an adult acting like this at least.

>>4775414
Nah dude fuck BLM and all their supporters, bunch of cunts who think they can tear down my countries statues.

>>4775282
I'm still convinced any controversy over Finana was Holofags convinced a branch needs a punching bag and spinning their wheels over nothing.

>>4775282
Holonigs are like whiny housewives:
all gossip with little depth, and only bitches and complains while complimenting anyone except their hubby, while demonizing said hubby, squanders their wealth on nothings,while blaming everyone that isn't them when blamed.

>>4775473
She's getting better with time anyway, that collab will go by, people will forgot it happened and will go back to posting about how much they want to fuck her

>>4775382
How about, I don't know, don't tweet about it at all and recognize your role as an entertainer and only as an entertainer? On a regular basis? I don't want to see it at all. None.

>>4775438
This tweet could have not existed. Ever thought of that?

>>4775414
>urging of being political activists
>While I think it's not a creator's responsibility to be an activist, it's also ok to be more sometimes
I don't even know who this man is but that sounds like the opposite of what you're saying. "You don't have to do this, but it's ok to" is nothing, especially not compared to some of the stuff that was common last may.

>>4775516
And so could any post from your made up 30 year old. Get it now?

Why does It even matter? There's a higher chance of finana saying she wants to suck artrannies cock than any political shit

>>4775578
Based hornytubers

>>4775578
I believe it

>>4775520
>especially not compared to some of the stuff that was common last may.
Why is your standard to compare this to the worst and the loudest of Twitch and Twitter? Incidentally, he's in the same content creator group as some of the worst and loudest.
You know how many times I've heard of BLM mentioned, or really any political issue at all, over tens of vtubers? Zero. Make the correct comparison.

>>4774587
Niji EN have indie-size EOP audience, probably largely composed from fans of cancershojo, trannyshark and whatever while JP schizo army doesn't give a fuck about non-JP members.

Also they actually need those collabs to grow their numbers, if Holo EN didn't kick off with 100K from the start you would see more leeching outside of HoloPro.

>>4774718
>wanted/wants to collab with a literal bitch

What's wrong with wanting to collab with Korone?

>>4775449
>muh statues

>>4775709
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-

>>4775208
We're not trying to get anyone who supported BLM banned from all social media, we're just not interested in them anymore.

>>4775578
Isn't fish the only one who wasn't one of Artemis' slaves?

>>4775724
Damn straight my fucking statues you spineless cunt.

>>4775799
>he says on a 4chan board about vtubers

>>4775768
That's fair.

>>4774600
So does Hololive?

>>4774587
>newfag finds out Nijisanji and Hololive are not the same thing, the post.

>>4774793
Mea's the one who cut her off because of the drama around her anniversary concert. she still interacts with other HoloPro members

>>4775449
Columbus' did nothing wrong bro...
It's all BLM propaganda...

>>4775815
>>4775835
Don't like it? Fuck off and kill yourself.

>>4774634
And fishe just wants to get fucked

>>4775823
>all the time
Only FBK and Matuli.
The rest are infrequent at best, while the majority never collabs outside of Hololive at all.

>>4775828
more like the entire thread.

I watch vtubers to escape the lsf/offline tv circle and content. Thanks for the heads up, unsubscribe.

>>4775851
Take it to /pol/ buddy

>>4775877
Fuck off and leave.

>>4775864
Tokyo Tower...

>>4775835
His statute didnt do anything wrong
BLM however did many things wrong
I dont see why getting this attitude into the vtuber community is something you think is a good thing. I dont want to be reminded of politics every time I watch an anime girl playing video games

>>4775414
Being apolitical is a necessary trait to grow globally.
Local companies and groups that exercise political activism have close to zero global market penetration.
Associating with local politic activists will bring some local recognition boosts to the company, but at the same time alienate its global consumer base.

>>4774587
Because the Nijisanji and Hololive fanbases in the west are different even if there's some that are fan of both. And the holofags who are nijien fans don't care about it.

>>4775578
>>4775789
How did fish end up in shartimis' friend group? More importantly how the fuck did that socially autistic sperg even have a friend group, akasupa'd for friends kek?

>>4775937
>>>/pol/

>>4775693
indies would love to get 1-3k in average. Don't think that indies normally are on the size of the ones who get bigger numbers than that.

>>4776043
She's a dumb zoomer, she either choose some shitters she thought were cool or one of them approached her and she couldn't deny

>>4776043
No, I was saying isn't she the only NijiEN who wasn't one of Artemis' lapdogs. Fairy and Dragon slurped on Artemis' balls for clout.

>>4774587
finance is niji's nyanners, she already fits in

>>4774587
Not all fanbases are compatible. Collabs should be chosed wisely.

NijiEN been around for almost a month and none of those girls have even close to a million subs on YT yet after all this time. They are irrelevant.

>>4775693
Instead of worrying about other groups you should try watching your oshi and honor your deadsub holobronie, maybe that way her 500k subs stop translating to 5k active viewers

>>4776118

>>4776085
You mean on their past lives? Because now they're definitely ignoring his dms

>>4776043
Trannies are very good at guilt-bullying weak minded people into doing things for them

>>4776118
Bro, the holos excluding gura only hit 1m like these past few months. youre fucking retarded

>>4776072
>>4776085
>one of them approached her and she couldn't deny
And she can't rely on her older genmates (or at least Pomu) to safeguard her from them. That's a real shame to hear fairy and dragon likes that faggot even if it's just for money. There's not single person she talked about collabing with that I like and I think all of them are on twitch, the platform with the most cancer fanbase. Really wish Holo and NijiEN would collab.

>>4776573
Assuming it wasn't her idea, if she responded the first contact it was already over, she probably wouldn't be able to straight up deny in fear of getting flamed for being a new famous EN vtuber shitting on her fellow EN vtubers, the best she could do was either hope for her manager to say no or lie about the answer

>>4774587
Assuming people give a shit about NijiEN as much as Holo EN is retarded
Then agian I don't even care about Mori and Kiara in the first place, if anything they would fit in way better at Vshoujo than Hololive especially in terms of having no restrictions on what you can say/do

>>4776902
Aesthetic as fuck

>>4774587
There's no double standard. The people watching the different companies are different groups with different expectations.

>>4777100
This. Nijisanji aren't as closed off as Holo and are less concerned with brand loyalty. They frequently collab with singers, seiyuu, actors, mangaka, professional gamers, and other non-vtubing entertainers.
Kuzuha, the most popular Niji, couldn't even remember the names of Nijis outside of his few clique and his fans are mostly fine with it.

>>4777552
To be fair, Kuzuha is as dumb as Himawari. If anything, they would be even more surprised if Kuzuha actually know all Nijis.

>>4777754
Kuzuha is just chill

>>4776030
They're not different fanbases lol half of the chat in NijiEN have Hololive pfps. It's just that they don't have schizos(except Nijisenpai)

>>4777887
I assume most of the people that wouldn't be able to stomach a collab like this would probably filter themselves to begin with if they know anything about nijisanji jp and the vast range of types they collab with regularly.

>>4777754
>they would be even more surprised if Kuzuha actually know all Nijis.
In all fairness, there's more fucking Nijis than there are classic Pokemon, good luck committing all of them perfectly to memory.

>>4777887
Assuming what you say is true, wouldn't that mean those Niji "fans" are more dedicated to Holos

Therefore there are more people that give a shit about Holos do than what the Nijis do

Which means doesn't have shit at all to do anything about idols or their company doing collabs with outsiders all the time - this is just Holos having more gachikois and schizos than Nijis and that less people over-all give a shit about what the Nijis do.

>>4778184
I dunno the environment around nijisanji is more like collaboration with males and outsiders is expected by default even here on 4chan. If someone is getting outraged about it they just seem like they don't get nijisanji.

>>4777887
literally who?

>>4778330
Pretty sure anyone in NijiEN could have a full blown schizo meltdown tomorrow and no one here would bat an eye

>>4778131
Most Nijifags can easily do it. With the exception of SEED, they debut in waves of 3-5 members. If you've been following them since 2018 or 2019 then it would be more surprising if you can't at least name all of NijiJP.

>>4778372
I'm just saying that the reference point is different and that affects people's responses. HoloEN secluded itself for so long that any collab outside now seems like a big deal that needs massive scrutiny. Where as if you're looking for NijiEN reference points to set your expectations currently all their branches do male female collabs and collaboration with outsiders is regular and normal, including 3D people. So naturally people's expectations for the EN branch should reside around the same point.

>>4778373
Why would you follow Nijisanji when you can just follow your favorite group? "Nijifags" are 2019 legacy. Nobody cares anymore.

>>4774587
because Finana and her branch are already shit, there's nothing to ruin (further)

>>4774615
Winning son proved you wrong

>>4774675

>>4774587
who the fuck is finana

>>4774791

>>4778640
May daughter.

>>4778330
It's not expected, they just have more freedom.
There's still semi-tribal Nijis that mostly stick to Niji, female Nijis that shy away from male collabs, and Nijis that don't seem to care about Niji all that much and prefer to collab with regular streamers or youtubers.
If Calli's wrangler was more like a Niji wrangler, she'd have gotten that Charlie collab months ago.

>>4774587
You have to have literally 0 standard to even give a look at the niji fish desu, only Pomu is decent

>>4778489
I didn't say I follow all of them. Merely that I can name them. I couldn't I give two shits about Harusaki Air or Yugaruma Rine, but I still know them by association with the ones that I do follow.

>>4778807
I wasn't really talking about the individual level more just generalizing about the impression people have of the company overall.

>>4775333
>>4775344
Fucking seething lmao

>>4778370
Elira megadonor

>>4778817
The fish is cute and they do fun things together.
https://twitter.com/FinanaRyugu/status/1401386549279825928
The dragon is having a karaoke stream and then Pomu clips it and inserts herself singing a duet then the fish adds herself in aswell.

>>4778997
Oh, that's adorable. The tee tee...

>>4774634
After seeing her fetish list it's hard not to.

>>4774587
>FBI killing terrorists = Welcomed
>FBI killing citizens = criticized/being cancelled

Why the double standards?

>>4777887
I literally made sure to say holofags with nijien, retard. There's a difference on a nijisanji fan and nijien only fan.

>>4774587
I never liked the fish, massive downgrade compared to the other two, so she can do whatever cause I'm not watching her anyway.

>>4779152
The FBI doesn't kill terrorists silly anon, they make them!

There's no double standard, holodrones only watch hololive and its orbiters so their standards only apply there.

>>4779283
thats the CIA that does that so the FBI has people to kill

>collabing with shartemis
ngmi

>>4779903
anon sorry to inform you but the sharts friend is in en 2... like him or loathe her, zhe is here to stay.

>>4774657
this reminds me how far and how much we cumbuds have been through yet still stayed strong. Not a single yab in her life, gura is THE queen of vtubing forever and ever, in my heart.
did scarra actually stream with his retard dragon or did he drop it as fast as pokimane did?

>>4779903
Pikamee...

>>4779903
Cope, all 3 were friends of the shart before Niji

>>4776172
bro, your meds...

>>4774587
No double standards for me, I'm a big Scarra fan and cant wait for him to cuck thousands of snowflake incels

>>4774611
How sad...

>>4789883
I want to have threesome with these fishes.

As expected, no one likes or cares about Finana here.

>>4774587
There's different standards for Nijisanji.

>>4779903
>>4789883
no one is safe from the shartening

>>4774587
NijiEN needs it to grow. Hololive does not.

>>4774587
incompatible fanbases

>>4790078
Imagine railing the shit out of Finana from behind, and then suddenly you feel something trying to pierce your asshole.

ENTER SHARTEMIS

>>4774587
this >>4774600 and it is why they recline

>>4791511
Let's be honest. Finana is the one railing Artiemis with a strap on while you ram Finana.

>>4776118

>>4775709
Noble effort at preserving the integrity of words

>no one cares
>no one cares
>no one cares
Can't you find better bait? You're not going to get a (You) if you don't put in the effort.

>>4790692
is this image AFTER Artemis pirated the HoloFES?

>>4795853
yes anon it's literally from last week
https://youtu.be/4mjbwxbAbL0?t=1335

>>4774657
Is this one of the offlinetv faggot?

>>4795884
Goddammit. This fucking asshole got into CLARITY EN alongside Kani and Miki, and that alongside the last two debuts not streaming and Hazard leaving killed off the group. Valefor, Zwei and Eureka are the only ones still around, but Valefor should be selling himself as a vtuber designer instead.

>>4790692
The fact that she's a janny in the chat is even funnier.