/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Why do you keep forcing this thread? Just go to /int/

>>47732509
You can't talk about vtubers there and a lot of people actually want this thread

You will never be Japanese. You have no ancestry, you have no citizenship, you have no skills that would make Japan ever want you. You are a shut-in self-hating white man twisted by delusions of mythical Japanese superiority and exposure to Japanese media into a disgusting mockery of nature’s perfection. All 'validation' you get from other people in this position couldn't be worse in making you believe that spending years of your life learning a globally useless language to a first-grader's level was a worthwhile use of your time, but one can't expect that an individual as pathetic as you will ever know the value of the youth you threw away in doing that. Actual Japanese are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of linguistic evolution have allowed natives to identify frauds from mannerisms and vocabulary alone. Even if your written text of self-hatred and attention begging akin to a stray dog's somehow passes as normal (it won't), any Japanese person will immediately cut all ties when they hear the voice and accent of someone who is not only a basic Japanese speaker at best, but worth no more than garbage in skills, accomplishments, and likeability. You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake smile and laugh to yourself believing that watching a content creator that you understand 20% of at best is somehow superior than watching your own kind, as you project your disgusting traits onto your entire kind. However, deep inside you feel the depression creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight, and you know that. You know that all you do now is have an entirely new linguistic medium in which to be ignored, and not even the exotic trait of being foreign makes up for just how uninteresting of a person you are. Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll buy a rope, tie a noose, put it around your neck, and plunge into the cold abyss. Your parents will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. They’ll bury you with a headstone marked with your birth name, and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know a Western man is buried there. Your body will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a skeleton that is unmistakably Caucasian. This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back. Hate yourself and apologize for being white to some Japanese entity that exists only in your mind while actual Japanese people put in effort to learn English for the valid reason of it being the global language.

>>47733278
Wanting to learn Japanese doesn't mean you want to become Japanese but a monolingual like you couldn't know this

>>47733398
I am bilingual friend. Used to speak passable french too.

The last thread had lots of shitty advice from people who don’t know what they’re doing. Learn Hiragana & Katakana, read Tae Kim’s Guide (don’t fucking skip this step, retard), learn the basic 500 Kanji, start reading and compiling more vocab

>>47733587
What was the shitty advice ? Tae Kim is pretty good especially compared to most Japanese grammar book but if you find something good you can use it
I agree for the kanji though

It's crazy how mad some people get that they don't know Japanese and somehow they decide to take it out on the few people who actually put the effort in.

>>47734066
None of the people who browse this thread are the type to put effort in. It literally takes 0 effort to google “how to learn Japanese” and get a million free resources online. It’s why the /int/ /djt/ is so shit. Japanese is one of the easiest languages to learn by virtue of how much free shit there is compared to other languages.

>>>/jp/43264928

>>47733532
So you're not monolingual, just retarded.

Yeah you guys are right, lets stop making actually useful and constructive threads like this, we need more catalog space for the hourly bait and niji deflection threads!!!

>>47734562
The JP DJT is just a cesspool of perverts and nonstop bickering over which resources are best, you will get flamed if you dare use a resource that isn't the thread's current favorite. What's wrong with wanting a DJT focused on our preferred Japanese content, Vtubers?

>>47736328
Yes and no, people flame each other because it’s our culture. There’s no 1 correct method for a westerner to learn, some are generally better than others but not everyone’s brain is wired the same way.

最近は面白い配信を見たか?

>>47737298
ロボ子の現在配信は楽しい。ロボ子の音はめっちゃかわいいだ。

俺は出会い厨

>>47736582
There's no culture, its just a mentally ill schizo that spams ugly pigs and larps about fucking his mother. Unironically.
>>47732433
At least have a vtuber op. Deki chan sucks.

>>47736582
Look at the current JP DJT thread and tell me if you think that is any bit of a helpful place to learn Japanese. It's just coomers spamming doujin pics and clips of women from dramas and JAV.

>>47734562
>Guide: Do what you want
Nice thread

>>47733278
Good, I just want to watch chinese cartoon girls.

>>47739104
post vtubers to even it out!

great easy stream for reps
【HOLOYOI || ホロヨイ】EPISODE #02 - Noel and Flare! #holoyoi
https://youtu.be/wyrLR1CC1Co

>>47741004
thank you, we could use more posts like this.

which nip chuuba's the best to listen to
and why is it marine?

>>47742121
Do you mean best as in easiest or best sounding?

>>47742121
Rene is pretty easy to understand
https://www.youtube.com/@Rene_Ryugasaki

>>47742415
I guess i wouldn't sat easiest (to understand)
she just makes me feel good
>>47743125
yea based bakaposter

I hate that I am eventually going to be forced to talk to Japanese people to actually learn the language
I don't even have anything to talk about in English

>>47727226
tfw my thread #3 from a few hours ago was ignored and replaced with this one instead

>>47732509
No. /int/ is shit and don't accept vtuber talk.
I hope this thread is made every day, because this > any of the dramafag crap on the catalog.

>>47743885
Based.

My tip is to not worry too much about what's the most efficient way to learn Japanese, something is better than nothing. It's also a good idea to study Japanese in a way that incorporates your interests: look up words you hear often when watching vtubers or anime, read chat and comments with the yomichan add-on, use vtubers as background noise when you're doing something else.

>>47744499
This
I never used shit like anki for vocab, only for kanji but I think that can actually works if you already got some vocab though anime and chuuba

>>47743445
Is your goal to become fluent enough to understand chuubas or do you also want to speak it? If you only want to learn Japanese to watch JP chuubas then you don't have to speak the language ever, although I don't see how speaking could hurt.

>>47744499
Definitely this, but you need to start somewhere.
I did the basic grind using anki to start. Around 6 months in I made a mining deck and just mined what little nip I came across. 10 months in I finally decided to try being more active and started playing some games. I've been taking it slow, to the point that I'm less than half as good as I could be, but I have still made enough progress to have few issues with the media I consume right now, just under 3 years in.
Which reminds me. For anyone that wants to go the game route, this spreadsheet is useful.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ukDIWSkh_xvpppPbgs1nUR2kaEwFaWlsJgZUlb9LuTs/edit#gid=0

Not everything listed has full transcripts, but it's ungodly useful when they do.

>>47744763
>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ukDIWSkh_xvpppPbgs1nUR2kaEwFaWlsJgZUlb9LuTs/edit#gid=0
I've been using textractor. But this will be good for the times when I can't be assed setting it up.

>>47733278
What the fuck, does this mean that all the schools I went to tried to turn me into an Anglo???

>>47745580
Textractor probably won't work in most emulation. I could be wrong, I realize I don't think I tried it properly.
I've also never tried it for games outside of VNs in general. How well does it work there, if you've done that? If it works I might finally have reason to try using my Win10do VM again.

/DJT/ should have never left /a/ but this board is way better than /int/. Keep up the good work, boys. Hopefully these threads will last a while before the fucking faggot mods decide to ban them in favor of a dozen more threads bitching about Gura.

>>47728623
>or you’ll wind up sounding like a girl
you just know this is true
maybe sounding like a japanese hag isn't so bad
>>47745799
>/DJT/ should have never left /a/
true

Help anons !
>あなた紙に描くをやめてですか?
I think I write something different than "are you stopping drawing in paper?" ;-;

I sent that to a japanese and her take it in a bad way ;-; (she stop posting hand drawing bc now she do IArt)
Her answer was
>???
>紙に描いたらダメってこと?

>>47746872
I will try to help, but I am not very good. I believe what you sent her basically means "will you stop drawing on paper?" and she thinks you are telling her she cant draw on paper.

>>47746872
You wrote something like "stop drawing on paper" (+ desuka but that doesn't mean anything here so she probably thought it was a mistake)
Then she replied "You mean I shouldn't draw on paper ?"

A proper phrase would be "紙に絵を描くことをやめましたか"

>>47746301
Marine doesn't have a really feminine way of talking anyway

>>47737858
現代の出会いはヴァロだからFPSしてVtuberと絡むんだ

>>47748308
>>47746872
アナログ絵やめたんですか?
is the most natural way to put it.

>>47732433
I need to get back into Japanese. I used to speak it N3 really well when I lived in Japan for 2 years but I moved back to my home country 3 years ago and have gotten pretty rusty. I don't even watch anime raw anymore cos I watch it with my GF so we put subs on. Feels bad anons, I forgot most of my kanji

>>47749646 (me)
In general, use your grammar book for basics, but when you're sending someone a message, study the way chat talks to learn how to address someone properly.
Notice how they never use あなたお前君except maybe when joking?

Being told あなた(…)when your name has already been introduced, is like if a random dude walked up to you on the street and pointed a finger at you.
That's how I would convey using pronouns instead of someone's name (or better yet, just leaving out the subject entirely when it's obvious).

>>47747343
>>47748308
>>47749646
>>47749949
Thanks anons... I will more careful next time...I want to apologize to her but I sent that message as anonymous so better I don't said anything more

>>47732433
cute

>>47732433
>Guides & Materials:
you need to add the newest DJT guide from /jp/: https://tatsumoto-ren.github.io/

>>47752939
lmao‼ thats tatsucuckholds site, thats a mentally ill spammer friend, never take anything said there seriously
>>/jp/?task=search&ghost=&search_text=tatsumoto
https://find.4chan.org/?q=tatsumoto#top
proof
he just began spamming again, hope the mods filter his worthless spam soon‼
https://streamable.com/6nlhff