/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Niche appeal. There is a significant subset of viewers who legitimately find her boring because she doesn’t do over the top reactions or GFE.

>>475417
GFE and ASMR fags need to die... no one cares about your creepy fetish. I used to find her boring until I sat and watched a stream. It was super comfy. Best sleep I had in months and I don't mean it in a disparaging way. The streams are just super comfy. Then the puns came out and she quickly became my fav.

>>475272
This is basically what Ina does
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66CaiSf7oyk

>>475272
>Number fagging
But yeah, ina is a lot lower because she is just being herself, and not some hyperexaggurated personality.
On top of that, the "comfy and quiet" aura of her streams isnt for everyone, and maybe thats good.

>>475272
Ina doesn't have a fake personality, nor she tries to be a fake girlfriend. She is just herself. Also her choice of games (Lobotomy Corp, Edith Finch, etc.) tend to be very obscure for the normies so she doesn't get views. But hey, at least she doesn't care about numbers and is just happy being herself.

Sub fagging don't matter though. Her concurrent live viewer number is always at 9-11K or more. Kiara gets like 3-5k on a regular but gets more when doing collabs or karaoke.

Ina is has the lowest SC though. She doesn't really do SC reading so yeah. She doesn't really encourage donation too. She's probably happy where she is right now. Kiara gets the bucks,

As far as the "Fake" thing you guys are shtting on. You guys have to remember that these girls do hang out. Ina and Kiara more. Kiara is the probably the one that actually glues them all as far as their stories and collabs goes.

>>476662
I think the "fake" thing is lobotomy tier retardation. They're entertainers you faggots. Not your best friends or family. Of course they're going to be fake most of the time. It's all a show and a persona most of the time.

She cares the least about numbers out of anyone in EN. She already has an established career as a successful priestess. She joined Hololive for her socialization reps and to be less of an introvert shut in. Just being comfortable in front of an audience was her main goal, and it doesn’t matter if she gains or loses a few hundred thousand subscribers as long as there are people watching her.
And she’s done pretty good at working on her reps. She’s visibly much less nervous and more comfortable in front of people if you compare her current streams to her debut.

>>477680
this. I dont think debut Ina could be assertive like current Ina was during the HK stream
telling off the backseaters was refreshing of her

>>475272
I'm more curious why it took Kiara so long to pass someone who doesn't really do anything to pander for subs.

I'm not a sub or a member because I don't have a google account and don't ever plan to have one. Happy to lend a browser tab to up the viewer count whenever she's on though.

>>477889
I think she's a bit more polarizing then the other girls. She comes off to some people as abrasive but I think that is just her Hololive persona though. However, her fan base is very loyal and she almost reaches Gura in terms of SCs. https://playboard.co/en/youtube-ranking/most-superchatted-all-channels-in-worldwide-monthly

>>475272
Ina had more subs than Kiara up until Kiara started her JP leeching talkshow and just barely passed Ina

>>475272
Cuteness alone isn't enough. She needs something else to make people feel like they have to subscribe.

She's chill. That's a good and a bad thing. Most people like chill but chaos will grab your attention more often.

>Doesn't do the GFE experience
>Doesn't act like a screaming retard
>Doesn't read EPIC superchats(or superchats at all)

>>475272
>anti numberfagging personality
>tard wrangling mod
>hates superchat reading
>excellent game choice
>perfect timeslot
ina is perfect the way she is

>>479320
Not denying it.

>>479071
Is it really leeching?? You know that they are in a vtuber agency right???? That the point of HoloEn is to expand hololive globablly right??? Everyone gets benefit from actually being on that show. Everyone in hololive collabs with everyone. It's one of the perks of joining an agency except for brand recognition. Retarded piece of shit.

>>479448
shut up kiara

>>479448
Pissed tori is PISSED. Go schlick with chicken grease you loud obnoxious bird.

>>475272
Who cares? The only good source of income for a streamer are memberships and sponsorships.

>>475272
Streams mostly in the afternoon in North America, heavy art focus filters out people who aren't interested in that, not particularly clippable due to not saying lewd stuff or overeacting, almost never does special streams (making cookies is probably the most outside-the-box thing she's ever done), streams less and for less time than the others due to rl responsibilities, doesn't read SCs so people wanting to become chat-famous have nothing to grab onto, general demeanor and personality could come off as boring to some people.

>>479071
this, plus the suspiciously timed karaoke sub begging stream she did at the exact moment she passed ina

>>475272
She's the Flare of EN. Underrated but perfect in every way.

>>479071
>>479762
I think Kiara would break if she ended up being the bottom EN girl. Always struck me as very artificial and numbers chasing rather than putting out good content.

>>477889
Kiara tries too hard, Ina doesn't try at all. They're like yin and yang, anon, and no matter how much Kiara seethes, their numbers are going to closely match up like this forever.

>>475272
>but I haven't met a lot of Ina haters
that's because all the antis are Ina fans

>>475680
ASMR isn't a fetish.

>>479071
lol yeah her pet project that she invests tons of time and work into every two weeks is obviously something she deserves no credit for, right? what a leech! just sitting back and letting others make her popular. fuck off Tako

i think a lot of the chuuba market is in it for coomerbait and ina's in a weird place where her secondary sex characteristics are underdeveloped but she's not quite immature enough to do it for cunnyfags
that's not to say she doesn't have sex appeal, her outfit's pretty great and personality-wise she seems like a freak in the sheets

>>475272
Easy, Ina is boring.

>>482765
>"Hey guys, this talk show is for EOPs to learn more things about holoJP that they might not know about!"
>Only invites the holos with the buggest audience
>Asks about clips everyone saw a thousand times
>barely translates soe words after several minutes of JP conversation

>>482875
Yeah clearly anyone could get the kind of views Kiara does in any collab if they just got another popular Holo there. Remember that really amazing and popular JP collab Ina did that one time? What was that one again?

i honestly think ina joined because she was bored and lonely. she doesn't need cash or online clout or some shit. look at how she draws. she has a bf and is introverted for a girl. i also think she's free of mental illness.

>>479071
But thats wrong. It wasnt until Kiara redebutted that she passed Ina. The show barely did anything

Here's a tasty rrat for you.

Kiara was struggling but recently her talk show and overt memey Shipping with Calliope have given her a second wind.

The one I'm most surprised by was Ame, she doesn't sing, has no language skills and isn't very good at games yet still grows a lot.

>>483435
Ame's the most accessible of the bunch, closest to your normal twitch streamer. She also streams at a decent time slot so plenty of visibility there

>>476662
hmmmmmmmm

>>482875
massive JOP audience*, holos like Subaru and Shion are virtually unknown out of Japan outside some funny clips

>>483435
>>483468
reminder

Ina's very dedicated to doing her own thing. It makes her unique, but at the same time very niche. She doesnt read superchats or look at chat too often, she doesnt over react, and she doesnt play super popular games, at least not without a super personal interest in them. In that sence she never comes off as a trend chaser or a crowd pleaser, but simply as herself just trying to enjoy some vidya games. Its going to be polarizing to most normies who just want to attentionfag with their chubba, but to see someone get dedicated and absorbed into a game like Ina does is always fasinating to see, and thats really where she shines, as she doesnt let anything distract her from that.

>>482790
>tentacles underperforming in coomerbait
come on

>>483643
they don't look slimy so they're basically artificial to me

>>483469
Want to count that again without the collabs this time anon...?

>>483836
>nuh uh doesn't count

>>483846
Are you saying that every viewer on Kiara's collab streams are here solely for Kiara and not for the other parties?
How the fuck do you establish how many viewers are here for Kiara only during collabs?
Why would collabs count at all when we're trying to establish how many viewers are here for Kiara only?

The thing is, Kiara has a lot of empty subs steming from the big collabs she hosts only on her channel. While that's not too much of a bad thing, it only showcases how bad of a metric subcount is if we want to know the "BETTER" vtuber (whatever the fuck that implies)
So yes, essentially, nuh uh doesn't count.

>>484063
>it only showcases how bad of a metric subcount is if we want to know the "BETTER" vtuber (whatever the fuck that implies)
subcount only shows how "popular" a channel is, even then it's not such a great metric

>>484122
Man it's almost like numberfagging is completely meaningless because of how many variables are at play here, who coulda known!

>>484318
I already know that :)
if the content is good, all of the girls are growing and having a good time then it's all good

>>475680
>>482652
ASMR is mandatory for sleep

>>478957
Tim Pool is the best Vtuber

>>479109
Yeah, she doesn't do anything. Just sits there.

>>479109
>Has no sex appeal or charisma
>Mumbles in this weird nasally voice
>Doesn't show gratitude to fans who support her

>>485245
Congratulations, you proved that you don't even watch her in 3 sentences.

>>479109
>>485245
It's great isn't it?!

>>484491
Did you know he grew up on the south side of chicago?

>>475272
ina's great but you typically don't pair her with other girls for obvious shipping, so she loses out on that cross advertising

Because she's weird and niche, and that's why we love her.

>>475272
>>483469
Ina is doing extremely well, she has the highest live views after Gura, the highest viewer retention and more memberships than Kiara and Mori. She is growing at a steady rate without relying on sub boosting streams, and is fine being at the "bottom" so that the other girls can shine.

Sub counts are the first thing people see but they're pretty useless outside of numberfagging.

>>482790
You need to get some pussy.

>>489348
Welcome to /vt/

>>489348
can't, i'm allergic to cats

>>483560
Ame is genuinely funny imo. Anon and his fiancee's boyfriend should enjoy Ame as much as they like.

I think its that her content isnt as interesting or exciting for people, so they don't care about being updated on her newest content. Also I barely see any clipped ina moments, especially compared to the other girls.

>>484063
Nobody mentions that Kiara's streams are hours long. I don't have time to log in at 2 am and watch a 7 hour stream... or watch the replay.

>>489414
Then get some vagina

>>477889
shes cringe and comes off as someone with impostor syndrome instead of just being chill and having her niche. also her design is terrible, and the kfc motif is stupid

>>483435
amelia is memey as fuck and its easy for chat to latch onto their hivemind meme spouting. also being hilariously salty as fuck i guess is a decent niche within hololive

KFP are in full force with their anti-posting today..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSuTWSJIP1U

Maybe have a word with your slutty boss and tell her to sort her attitude out.

>>475272
Because out of all hololive EN she feels like a real person.

>>482875
>>482875
It is really annoying how she basically just memes at them for 20 minutes and calls it creating content.
Anya is cute btw. I love her and ina together.

>>475680
There's a place for GFE and ASMR fags. It's just that place isn't Ina's streams and that's okay. Ina has a lot of fun just being herself, collabing with the friends she's made, and playing games she enjoys.

>>493783
Gura feels real too most of the time imo

>>493783
This, but comes at the cost of making her the odd woman out. This makes it harder for several newcomers and clipfags starting to actually watch streams to get to her. Most go with either Gura, which leads to Ame or Calli which leads to Kiara.
That said, it works to avoid all potential cancer other channels might get, but at the cost of popularity.

>>491940
>slutty
Is this just bants or was there a story I missed?

>>475272
>why doesn't Ina rack up as many subs as the other girls
She isn't very clippable, with some exceptions like the KabeDON thing. Thats where the subs come from. But she is happy doing her thing, and looking at her viewership and membership size, it seems the people who watch her are also very happy with it. The Takopriestess is just vibing to her own music.

>>485968
If he sat on the fence any more he'd have a fencepost lodged up his ass.

>>478957
>and she almost reaches Gura in terms of SCs
She actually surpassed her weeks ago.

Why are you faggots saying Ina is weird?

Imagine being kiara. She’s obsessed as hell with her sub count. Meanwhile she is just barely above Ina, who doesn’t even do hololive full time, and barely recognizes subscriber milestones

>>495175
Imagine caring about any of that when you can just focus on Ina.

>>475272
she isn't clip-bait. Also she openly mocked surrogate friend losers with the "not your psychiatrist" line

>>496006
uhh bro
telling people they should get actual professional help instead of relying on parasocial relationships isn't mocking them

>>496006
>Also she openly mocked surrogate friend losers with the "not your psychiatrist" line
>Mocked
Projection. In non-schizo land, she's saying that people expecting her to be able to solve their psychological baggage are not going to get help from her, because she is not qualified to give that advice. Which is the smartest thing she could have said, armchair psychologists are the reason 75% of the internet population collects claims of having this or that disorder like fucking pokemon cards to validate how special and unique they are.

>>496571
I agree that armchair psychologists are cancer, but regular psychologists aren't that much better nowadays. They hand out diagnoses and pills like candy.

ina keep herself low profile, not like kiara do alot collabs with other, but i love ina alot

>>498380
>nowadays
Psychologists were always a scam. Nothings changed.

>>496006
I don't see how this can be seen as mocking unless you're mentally ill.
https://streamable.com/dtr0t8

>>498380
>psychologists
a charlatans scam
imagine unironically being depressed
nigga just stop feeling sad
just be happy nigga

>>485245
> Has never sat through an entire Ina stream
> Doesn't like drawfags
> Probably a Kiarafag

>>495254
I would agree, but Kiara posters are absolutely the dogshit of vtubing. People bitch about Gura posters but Kiara posters shit up every thread they touch.

>>501180
I agree that psychologists are a scam but you should really speak with someone who cares like a family member or close friend and if you don't have anyone you're fucked just tough it out.

>>501018
>Hey Ina my dog died please read :(((((
Are you upset because it hit a nerve? That is the exact kind of person she is talking to. Don't kid yourself

>>475680
>no one cares about your creepy fetish
oh boy how wrong you are

>>475272
I love Ina so much bro.

She’s got built in pleb filters:
>no annoying superchat reading streams
>no ASMR/GFE
>no forced ship
>doesn’t exploit zoomer memes

>>475272
Cry some more. Kiara's passed up Ina and that is never going to change.
Mori and Ame better watch out because they're next.

I appreciate Ina and I see the appeal in her streams and all but damn. You guys don't need to shit on Kiara so hard..

>>501955
Same bro. Just curious that's all. I'll still watch the Tako Priestess above many of them.

>>478957
>Hololive
>Hololive
>Hololive
>8 more spots of Hololive
>Tim fucking Pool
>Hololive again

I'm fucking dying.

>>479640
>doesn't read SCs so people wanting to become chat-famous have nothing to grab onto
Thank god.

>>483435
Ame can't sing to save her life but her enthusiasm makes up for it, I really liked her singing streams.

>>479640
So basically she's not trying nearly as hard as Kiara to boost her numbers and yet they're pretty much even.

>>494683
I appreciate his fencesitting, it helps me stop myself from falling too deep into pizzagate territory.

>>501556
>like a family member or close friend
lol

>>487603
>3 times as many viewers
>slightly less supachat

Takodachis are poor. POOR!

>>493809
I wish their streams weren't so early I ended up sleeping through them while they played on my phone.
Decently soothing sleep desu.

>>507725
She fucking memed Girugamesh

>>510935
What do you think she had to review krita?

>>511016
>zoomer memes
>girugamesh
pick one

That meme is over a decade old ; it can't be zoomer. Either the zoomers rediscovered it or there's some other zoomer meme by the same name I don't know about.

>>508421
Imagine someone wanting that leecher sydsnap. Retarded crackers.

>>512323
I wasn't saying it was a zoomer meme, the opposite. She memes some ancient stuff, was Girugamesh even memed outside 4chan much?

>>510935
i'm gonna donate 100 to spite you.

>>510884
Kiara is still better though.

Ina is unironically the best girl