/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Everything's fine with Gura and Ina. If you watch the others, that's your own fault.

>>4732492
I just wanted to know what the fault was in the first place.

>EN
Don't care. I will be Japanese.

>>4732455
Yes.

>>4732455
The story is that seems to be that Mori is showing that she doesn't care about being at Hololive and everything in general despite her irl friends and music, to put a context, it's like when a Football/basketball/baseball (put your favourite team sport here) player doesn't show any interest in his team more than making money or reputation, people who follows that team or are fans will be upset because this by obvious reasons

>we are at the point where newfags are making threads to beg for spoonfeeding

Mori is being shitty like she periodically is, everyone else is fine.

>>4732620
Half of what's going on seems to be happening inside anons' heads only. No amount of stream watching or lurking is going to help gather what it is that you people think is going on.

>>4732455
>Maybe it’s because I also like trash taste and Vshojo. Does that make me a faggot or something?
No. You like what you like and nobody can fault you for it.
If you're encouraging them to collab with Holomems, yes, you're a faggot and should stop. Please discourage when you can.
Fences make good neighbors. VShojo and TT should do its thing. I wish you the best of luck and all the success in the world. And Hololive should do its thing. And the two shouldn't mix.

>>4732581
That's not really a good comparison. Mori still clearly wants to be a youtuber/streamer/musician, but doesn't seem to care much for being a hololive member. She showed interest in the TT collab because that's the kind of collab she actually wants to do.
This wouldn't even be much of a problem if Mori wasn't transparent about what she likes and what she doesn't, and it rubs people the wrong way to see her drag her feet

>>4732692
Nah, that's only really an issue if you're autistic. If you can't keep up with a basic narrative like this one, how are you going to handle what comes next? Apply yourself.

>>4732455
It's a known fact that Calli's using Hololive to boost the stock of her room mate, her problem was that Holo's core audience isn't what her room mate needs to boost her further in her career, that's why she doesn't really care much about in company collabs. What she wants are the kinds of weebs that follows Trash.

> Does that make me a faggot or something?
Yes. Watching ironic weebs like TT makes you a faggot

>>4732455
I watch Ina if I want a good and relaxing vtuber, I watch Gura if I want a cute and bratty vtuber who happens to sing well, and I check Mori every now and then because I enjoy her as an artist (musician/animator) who happen to use an anime avatar. That's all. No need for the rest.

>>4732455
Nothing, idolfag just mad Mori care more about her real friends than their joke of a company.

don't listen to the rrats, Mori is collabing with other Holos today and has many others planned. People interpret she wanting to get out of the vtuber bubble as her wanting to break out instead of her wanting to market her company through other audiences.
many normiefags EOP joined because of her first podcast appearance after all.

>>4732872
Based and sane poster.
>who happen to use an anime avatar.
I think people have problem with "happens to use an anime avatar" part. Purists seethe that she uses hololive brand but doesn't adhere to the rules and constantly tries to bend them and push boundaries.

Mori though she could use Hololive to promote herself. But she just realized how tight a leash they have on her. She's just passing the motions like everyone else has said. Doing the bare minimum like a service retail job. Anyone in her position would do the same thing too. You can't have any fun like your western vtuber community. Its now just a Salaryman job with a Japanese corp. She should have seen this coming before signing with Cover.

>>4733201
>She should have seen this coming before signing with Cover.
Can you blame her? It’s almost common sense to assume a streamer company would be a hands off “do whatever you want” type of thing instead of whatever the fuck hololive has going on.

>>4733354
You are forgetting one thing - they are Japanese company. And she has been living in Japan for a few years.

>>4732455
Zhangs really did not like the fact that she did a collab with Coco, so in their usual fashion she is the next target.
And also in their usual fashion they will fail just like every time previously. They already got bored of her and are targeting Aqua now

>>4732455
>if said shit flingers are just a bunch of schizos not worth listening to.
That one, yes.

>>4732767
>Wants to be a streamer/musician
>Became vtuber/Idol
This is the culmination of the irony at this moment

>>4732455
>Maybe it’s because I also like trash taste and Vshojo. Does that make me a faggot or something?
Yes.

Everything is going according to plan.

>>4733201
>Doing the bare minimum like a service retail job. Anyone in her position would do the same thing too.
Not everyone has a nigger mentality about work.

>>4732455
/vt/ards getting bored of vtubers with lockdown restrictions lifting, so they want to be a part of something like a graduation so they can feel valid.

>>4732816
When you say roommate, you mean her IRL persona? Or does she actually have a roommate/housemate?

>>4734744
Her other persona, Domino Devil

>>4734744
Newfag spotted

>>4732515
You will never

>>4732872
You're forgetting someone anon...

>>4732455
What's going on? Same thing since day 1.
Trinityfags immediately recognized that Kiara and Mori were nothing but trouble and stuck to watching the three non problematic members.

>>4733354
Literally every other EN girl knew what they're getting into though? You don't see Ame communicating with twitch thots anymore, even though they might be still close with Silvervale off screen. You don't see Gura reverting to her past life antics. What's so hard about making even a minimal research about the company you're applying to, even as a joke? Mori didn't even try to watch any of senpais besides Coco after joining and before her debut, she literally did this to herself.

>>4732492
I get the animosity towards the Takamori duo but what did Ame do?

>>4732455
OH FUCK OFF

>>4732455
>Does that make me a faggot or something?
Yes.
> said shit flingers are just a bunch of schizos not worth listening to
Also yes.

>>4732767
>>4733201
>>4732816
Mori has been as transparent as she could about this without flat out saying "Hey Vtubers aren't real, I've got shit to do IRL" She said so in her drawing stream last night. "I spend maybe 5% of my day doing this" when I guess what people really want to hear is "I'm a full time idol streamer doing 9 hour game marathons". Or they want all the holos to be neets like them. I also can't blame her for wanting to have an outlet to her roommate stuff because what typically happens when a roommate graduates is they get completely wiped off the internet. Like Monoe. She did nothing but streamed, and now has nothing and is nothing except in the drives of a few data hoarders. Some Holo members would frankly be nothing without the company, and they'll be nothing when their time with the company is gone. But truth be told, the way Mori explained it, she would have been better off as a Vsinger than what we typically think of as a chuuba. Ironically Kiara is probably the most 'hololive' worthy EN member from what I've been reading.

I look forward to collab

>>4732515
your stamina won't hold out

>>4732492
Everything’s fine with Ame too, faggot

>>4732777
>what comes next

>>4734744
jesas

She honestly lives in the heads of /vt/ rent free.
She's a mediocre streamer and I agree. But like Iofi, she's talented in other aspects and that's ok.

>>4739245
Exactly. People act like all of Hololive should be a shut-in like Pekora and socially awkward like Aqua while doing constant endurance streams like Korone. She's thinking about life after Hololive cause its not gonna be there forever. But let butthurt neets be butthurt neets.

>>4736067
Problem with people who are only Gura fans is that they want her to be Senzawa again knowing damn well she's not that anymore.

>>4732455
>Maybe it’s because I also like trash taste and Vshojo. Does that make me a faggot or something?
Get the fuck off this website

>>4740973
:3

>>4740973
Nice hugbox you're making, snowflake.

>>4732515
i believe in you anon, do your best

>>4732620
to be fair you retards have just been going insane about nothing, of course they'd ask what the schyzoids are mumbling about in their corner.

>>4741049
It's not a hugbox because I cannot silence your faggot ass. Instead I can call you a worthless waste of oxygen that should off themselves, so it's all good.

>>4732492
>Everything's fine with Gura
For now. We don't know how bad her imposter syndrome will relapse in a month when she hits 3M subs.

>>4741151
Trying to silence opposing opinons is an attempt at hugboxing, faggot. Same way the downvote shit on the reddit you come from works.

>>4740669
t.akeshi

>>4732492
Retard, Ame is in this category too. It's only Kiara and Mori who are collabing with whores and faggots.

>>4742667
Which is why I'm posting here, retard. I don't need to silence dissenting opinions, I'll just shit on you

>>4739245
Nobody wants her to be a Korone, most people here just want a quality stream from Mori, which according to her own deadbeats seems impossible. What i really want her is to commit more to her streams, i don't care if it's an hour stream 3 times a week but just some good quality stuff. Now people compare her collab with her senpais with the gigguk one and straight up jump the gun telling her that she only shows enthusiams when is someone who is not from holo, I will give her the benefit of the doubt and say that she is learning to go with the flow of the stream and her collab with coco and ollie will be sucessful, but it wouldn't surprise me if she goes mhm, naruhodo again which pretty much confirms that she is either too socially akward or just plain doesn't give a fuck.

>>4741009
That's some straight kawaii shit anon.

>>4742940
For now

>>4732515
Start doing your kanji reps anon, I beleb

>>4732515

>>4740910
there doesnt need to be a life after hololive. her persona has 1.5mil subs and makes her more money than she can ever imagine, she can buy like 3 houses and live off of passive income for the rest of her life. we've never had a huge established holo split off like that so i cant say for sure what would happen, but i can tell there will be a huge sect of people that buy into the rrat that she was using holo purely as exposure since she makes that shit kinda obvious

>>4744181
That's not going to happen as long as Cover management still exists with the same staff it has now.
Those fucking retards are going to make them leave through sheer incompetence and overhead stress from all the business side.
Most people don't realize the TON of shit that goes on behind the scenes.

>>4744181
lmao no, youtube takes 30% from the superchat and then from the new rule to pay american taxes too. Then hololive company probably takes propably a good 40% or more if we go buy the music industry standards.

>>4744356
Common belief is that YouTube takes 30% and then cover and the talent split the remaining 70% evenly.

>>4734744
I'm her roommate

>>4732455
My faggot detector is off the charts today.

>>4743182
As opposed to what happens on redd*t, where someone actually gets sent to your house and duct tapes your mouth shut when you say something that goes against the majority

Retard

>>4732455
I've actually stopped supporting her, no longer a "deadbeat"

>>4732513
Many people who watch Vtubers do not want 3DPD in the videos. I am one of them and 3DPD is an eyesore for me that is why I dislike Mori collabing with trash taste.

As for Vshojo, it is the group that houses Nyanners, a seriously horrible person who ruins everything she comes into contact with.

Hope that explains it for you.

>>4741127
another redditfag found

>>4740629
kys, you triggered autististic trap

>>4747691
tldr

>>4733201
Awww poor Mori! T___T Hololive is so strict and all she got in return was becoming a millionare with little to no effort.

>>4747869

>>4732455
I want to gatekeep people like Nyanners away from Hololive, even if it means having to gatekeep Vei out of it as well, because she is deeply affiliated with these insufferable cunts incompatible with Hololive and Japanese culture. They are only going to bring in cancer. Hololive is doing fine as they are and I don't want them to get infested with western trash. They've already ruined anime fanbases. They've already ruined gacha and a lot of video game fanbases and I'm not gonna give up Hololive just like that.

>>4744290
If it is behind the scenes, then why do you know about it?

>>4747414
I understand that swinging anime titty can be hypnotic, good for you for coming to your senses.

>>4732455
I am mostly watching Kiara and Ina with a side of Gura. Things seem ok. Did I miss a recent rrat?

>>4747912
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNC2nHsF-FY

>>4743213
People will get it when it turns into a Coco and Ollie collab with Mori in the background thanking Superchats just giving the occasional grunt to them.

>>4744181
There will be life after hololive. Nothing lasts forever whether they want to do something better with their lives or hololive dies

>>4748022
They mention it in chats, zatsudans and in passing conversation.
It's not hidden, just off-camera.
Meetings, recordings, paperwork, planning, merch work, singing practice, dancing practice, etc. There's a lot of shit they do.
Yes, they do a lot of manual stuff. Cover is there to help them communicate those ideas to companies and partially fund in some instances, but it is up to them in the end to make the pitches.
And that's not even getting in to the people that do stuff outside of Hololive. (hence why they stream less than most)

>>4748156
IS THAT A LOLI!?!?!??! DISGUSTING PEDOPHILE!!!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>4749041
what does loli mean?

>>4748194
No way she's this retarded. It's clear she doesn't care, but surely she's going to pretend for this one collab, if only for the sake of self preservation.

>>4741879
shit rrat, shes had a few months to prep for the inevitability of her reign on top. shes a big girl, she'll be fine

>noooooooooooo you can't collab with people outside of hololiverino! with people not working for cover corperino!

>>4750100
Not a very good false flag tbqh

>>4732455
Yes

>>4750100
yes.

>>4732455
stop caring so much about others opinion online

>5%

>>4742667
It's really not. On Reddit you get banned for having the wrong opinion. Here you can say whatever, including telling other to kill themselves. It's the exact opposite of a hugbox despite what you modern breed of hypersensitive people want to convince everyone else.

>>4747691
>>4747912
The fuck is this shit

>>4756989
that's the only thing in this world worth caring about.

>>4757043
>tfw mori is the shaggy of hololive

>>4732515
This anon's 武士魂 is strong.

>>4757650
This is the kind of shit trying to leech off HL. This is why we must keep the gate.

>>4732455
HoloEN newfags slowly realizing that the garbage they enjoy is for ironic weebs, like yourself. Every fucking retard crying about "muh 3DPD" is an idiot that started watching hololive this year and don't know shit about vtubers, but want to pretend they know better.

>>4763071
unlike the halcyon days on /jp/, when collaborations with western e-celebrities were greeted with excitement and acclaim

>>4763165
The only people that can collab with HoloEN is western e-celebs. Do you think the average HoloEN watcher even know who is Mafia? Of course, you don't know either, but you sure know about something like trashtaste podcast or that other guy that collabed with Mori just now. In the end, HoloEN is for people like you, enjoy your EOP content.

>>4732455
Mori is hell bent on being the Colin Kaepernick of Vtubing. She's trying to bring up and consort with lesser personalities and doesn't understand the class dynamics at play.

As a member of Hololive's gilded elite, her first priority should be keeping up appearances and rubbing elbows with other established vtubers. Instead, she and Kiara are still trying to pal around with their friends from the streets. They don't realize what happens when bubbles pop. Valuation crashes eventually ensue, lowering the net worth of everyone invested.

This is why everyone hates takamori, because people smarter than them understand exactly WHY the bubble exists and why it ahouldn't be popped. If they want more freedom then they can pursue careers on their own or with other companies. But so long as they're suckling from Yagoo's tweet, everyone expects them to act like the kept elites that they are. Otherwise they just ruin it for everyone else and turn the entire ecosystem into a nepotistic, cronyist, clout chasing cesspool where the lack of gatekeeping allows vtuber social clubs to oppress and keep down genuinely good streamers.

And what do you think happens when the only streamers people see wind up being a degenerate friend group that's not funny or interesting, who are all coasting hy solely on branding and efame? People start tuning out faster than they did when sports became consumed by politics. Mori doesn't realize it, but traditions and standards often exist for a reason. Her childish "smash the patriarchy, idol culture bad" attitude is exactly what people were trying to keep out of the space. If she succeeds at loosening standards then it's a slippery slope all the way down to game over. That's why everyone's hoping she quits or gets graduated. We like Hololive and hololive adjacent vtubers, not generic streamers with anime avatars who don't care about the culture, kayfabe or ecosystem.

The only reason nips worship calli is because they don't understand her. That's all it is. They've been blinded by cool rap gaijin and can't see that a he's a Trojan horse who may very well undo everything enjoyable about hololive. She's the personification of that meme where normalfags come in and co-opt your hobby until everything that made it great is dead and it's just another topic for vapid casual conversation.

>>4732455
>>4750100
For you 5%, the information about the supposed bubble that Mori had.
>Kiara is unhealthily close to her fans, is open to them with anything she can be, streams a lot, and this job is basically a dream comes true for her, not to even talk about all the terrible shit she carried from her previous life; she loves her senpai and collabs with them, even made a platform in which all of them would be featured equally regardless of numbers, which allowed them to talk about their experiences in Hololive
>Ina holds another job which is pretty taxing; despite this she has never been known to scuff her streams, collabs with senpai despite her not being that good at Japanese (a fact you could easily miss because she never tries to push the fact that she can speak Japanese at all); also never does supa readings, tells her fans to not donate if they shouldn't, she joined Hololive just to meet more people and to have something in her life besides her job
>Amelia started as an indie, she came from the very bottom, still never stopped innovating and putting out quality streams; doesn't speak a lick of Japanese, still has more collabs than Mori
>Gura is admittedly lazy and low effort, but even she tries; even she admits there's things in her past she wants to get over, and her success has never been something she flaunted or thought she deserved, quite the contrary, she probably wanted the complete opposite of what she got, but over the months she's grown more comfortable about her position in Hololive
>Coco had an literal nation of antis out for her blood for months, making her incapable of streaming or collabing with most people; despite this, I have never seen one clip of Coco saying she has thought of quitting Hololive, or that it doesn't mean much for her; Coco is also a real life case of YWNBJ, yet she has worked with just about everyone in Hololive
>On the ID side of things you have girls like Iofi, who is friends with everyone, even collabs with vtubers outside of Hololive, and is always ready to lend a shoulder to someone like Moona when she's having a hard time; Moona, who despite being a giant autist, can easily hold conversations with others, got better at Japanese and wants to travel to Japan to meet Pekora in real life, as well as recently cleaned her name for one the worst collabs with Coco; you also have Risu, who has admitted she's not simply faking a persona like in wrestling, and she's her real self in stream; and Ollie who was severely affected by blowback recently, and wanted to change
>The Holostars, despite being nowhere near as successful, despite having 1/4 of their members graduate, despite being pretty much barred from collabing with the girls, have never expressed that Hololive doesn't matter to them; Shien has said that people shouldn't be so eager to ask for a new gen of Holostars like they're gacha pulls, and he wishes people would instead try to support all of the stars that are already there; Astel has said that he wants Holostars to be famous for their own achievements, instead of having to rely on the girls for exposure; Stars collab with just about everyone from the scene, for example, Roberu is close to Tomoshika from VOMS and Oga, along with Iofi, is friends with Deep Blizzard Miyuki
>I'm not even going to try going into the JP girls; if you don't think they care about their job at Hololive, you shouldn't be posting on this board.
>Hell, I'll give you a JP example. I'm sure if you even remotely frequent this board or /jp/, then you would know about her second job. Its nature aside, it makes more money than any Holo could make from her job in Cover, I'm talking the kind of money that she could own two places in Tokyo and fund her own audio studio with high-end equipment. No one would blame her if she neglected her Hololive job to favor her other work but she never once did, even when she was stressed out from moving home, having a leg accident and having her menhera lonely fit, she still cared enough to put work into streaming as Noel.
>The same Noel who cared for pretty much all her gen and Holo as a whole, who drove around personally to fix up Flare's horrible audio set up at the beginning of her gen, drove an inkiya/semi-NEET like Pekora to the office so they could get her the fan mails and presents sent to her, the same one who pretty much paid for all those her whole gen's sleepover and off collabs and got the place ready at her home, with a whole room dedicated to Holo merch and having streams on her TV pretty much 24/7.
>And remember, she joined Holo when it was a literal who compared to Niji, simply because her oshi was there, back when there is only a single chuuba thread for all companies on /jp/.

>>4763827
Shazam-sama I KNEEL

>>4763827
too many words

>>4763591
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>>4763827
these are nice things to say about the girls, anon. maybe write something up about mori too and post a thread with them.

>>4732455
>Does that make me a faggot or something?

Pretty much. But you are not a vtuber so nobody gives a shit about you.

>>4764255
I'll write something nice about Mori the moment she knows even 5% of these things about her coworkers.

>>4763591
>If she succeeds at loosening standards then it's a slippery slope all the way down to game over.
Game Over is Cover not being able to quarantine this with their future gen hires. If they add more e-celeb chasers into HoloEN its truly over.

>>4764255
of course anon! Here's what you've been waiting for!

>Makes Gura extremely uncomfortable during their first collab together
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Drags the entire generation into a series of extremely boring Overcooked 2 where she just mumbles to herself the whole time forcing collab partners to pick up the slack, despite being the one to start it
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Promises Kiara that they'd do weekly Minecraft streams where they could learn the game together, collabed MC exactly once one one month later and never again
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Spends half an hour thanking superchats during her first Minecraft collab with Gura
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Doxxes herself and then obnoxiously fake screams into the mic the entirety of the Secret Neighbor collab
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Can't even be bothered to set up the game correctly for the first big Among Us collabs, is a massive anchor for the team and a wet blanket during meetings
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Was in a separate Discord channel thanking superchats during her second Among Us collab while her JP senpais all introduced themselves
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Played Lethal League with deadbeats while Ina literally stood there and watched, in what was supposed to be a Mori Ina collab
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Starts sulking when the punishment game comes up in Puyo Puyo Tetris, refuses to take part and brings the mood down
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Extremely and inexplicably rude to Kiara during the Takamori Q&A, nearly brought her to tears
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Doesn't know the first thing about Reine during their collab together, keeps calling her 'senpai' and actually thinks she's a Turkey character
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>According to Kiara, has overslept multiple collabs, forcing them to be delayed or rescheduled
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Spoils the outfits for the Walfee outfit reveal collab, doesn't even try during the Jeopardy rounds and just types gibberish
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>was in a separate discord
>Completely uninterested during her Clubhouse 51 stream with Kiara, Kiara even has to pull out the fucking weather deck to try and get any sort of response from Mori
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Spent 2 hours saying absolutely nothing but random autism grunts, as Kiara desperately tries to carry a conversation during their Shadowverse collab
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Can barely speak two words of Japanese during her Super Bunnyman stream with Rikka, forcing him to use English instead
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Completely shits the bed in the highly anticipated Coco Meme Review collab, exercising her usual "awkward sperg spamming stock phrases like naruhodo instead of holding an actual conversation" shtick to its fullest as Coco becomes more and more desperate to get ANY kind of reaction out of her and eventually asks 75k live viewers "is she always like this?"
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>made Gura wake up early on a day she had a stream later in the day
>replaced their game because it only has local play with a game that only has local play
>didn't install the game anywhere between the game being changed and the actual collab
>made a sleepy Gura wait 20 minutes only to have her experience about 0.5 to 2 second lag
>finally settle on Phasmophobia after all this struggling
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!

>>4764218
Look at this guy. He's an ironic vtuber fan. It's the next level in faggotry above being an ironic weeb. These are the kind of subhumans mori calliope attracts with her grrrl power. This is what will make Holo EN go the way of Holo CN. Mori will unironically go down in history as the Artia of EN. I hope the other 4 reincarnate as EN Gamers. They actually seem to like being meguca.

>>4764664
Shazam chads cannot stop dabbing on 5braps

>>4764763
Shazam Chad is the best this to come out of the 'Mori entryism' arc

>>4763591
Holy fuck you're autistic.

>>4763591
>We like Hololive and hololive adjacent vtubers, not generic streamers with anime avatars who don't care about the culture, kayfabe or ecosystem.
>we

>>4732455
People like VTubers because they aren't like western streamers. The most prominent western VTubers are trying to make it more like western streaming, and a significant portion of the audience is trying to resist that change.

>>4763591
The worst part is that the bubble doesn't even exist. Mori is the one that made it up. Holos collab with people outside Hololive all the time, other vtubers, old friends and their mamas and papas. Cover had no problem approving K's being on a stream right away, because it had a purpose besides her meeting her favorite streamer she doesn't know and has nothing to do with the scene, and K's is a Japanese doujin musician who she was working with already.

If Mori had requested that she collabed with Ririsya or Boogey Voxx, or even Milky, I can bet you she would have been approved. But instead her first idea is to go with Cr1tikal, someone who mainly streams in another platform, who has no filters to his humor and who has no problem going into political subjects. If Mori had given half of a shit about "growing" outside of Hololive she would have brought up her senpai to make a case as to why she could and under what conditions. But she's completely ignorant about them. Any dumbass here could is more informed than her. She refuses to inform herself on her current situation and instead of knowing why it isn't she can't collab with this or that person, she just stubbornly persists.

Not to say she could easily do it as her roommate. Hell, I don't get why she couldn't just become a vtuber version of her roommate and do whatever the hell she liked. It's not like she doesn't have the money for it, and her fans would just lap it up.

>>4739245
Despite being 5% of her day it's 90% of her earnings.

>>4732515
Look at Kiara, she whored herself out for years, and in the end, still ran back home.
You'll never be japanese.

>>4732515
based

>>4764664
shazam literally always wins

>>4732455
>Does that make me a faggot or something?
Yes, yes it does.

>>4739245
If you actually think she'll make it as a real singer/3d streamer if she graduates then you're delusional. The only reason she became relevant/had music topping the charts was thanks to being a part of hololive

>>4766255
OP is always a faggot

>>4739245
>Mori has been as transparent as she could about this without flat out saying "Hey Vtubers aren't real, I've got shit to do IRL"
This would be fine if she was an indie but she's employed by the most successful vtubing company in the world and is currently on track to make half a million dollars or more in her first year. The shit she should be doing IRL is actually earning her insane wage and making herself deserving of the massive opportunity she got. Instead she just whines that she can't do whatever she wants in the job she applied for.

>>4766686
>Instead she just whines that she can't do whatever she wants in the job she applied for.
So did she check the terms and conditions on her contract or not?

>>4766686
If she applied on a whim and kind of dislikes doing it, why doesn't she just ask to get moved to a singing-only position? Or just retire?

>>4766975
She did and then threw a temper tantrum because in her view Hololive is just a talent agency rather than an idol group

>>4767037
Mori likes money. A lot. She'll drain her paypigs for all they're worth then move on.

>>4766975
Anon, she can't even fucking check the cables she uses for her computer. I'm not kidding you. She told how one time she had K's on the phone for three hours making him check everything only to turn out the plug was the wrong voltage.

>>4764664
>>4763827
THIS EFFORT.... I KNEEL, SHAZAM-DOMO

>>4749873
>freezes up when Ame asked her who the second most subscribed vtuber is

>>4764664
Stop Shazam, Deadbraps can't take it anymore!

>>4764664
Show mercy Shazam, the 5% have nothing left at this point.

>>4765450
Her roommate becoming a Vtuber does seem like a possibility, though despite the hate i think Calli is doing an alright job at the moment.

Seems like the anti's and turbofags are making a mountain out of a molehill

>>4763827
This is what I mean when I say that Mori just doesn't seem to care about Hololive. All of them have shared so many behind-the-scenes stories about the kind of shit they put up with to make sure every stream is a success and never shove it to the sideline.

>>4763827
>>4764664
Keep it up Shazam Poster! You da best! very holobased!

>>4757650
A woman grifting off of the pedoweeb audience until wokism got big enough for her to jump ship.

>>4763827
I did know about Noel's other gig, sure, but it makes her that much? I knew she had a nice microphone/audio setup, but that's it.

The reason why there are so many shitters today is because a US senator went to Taiwan. Chinks are sperging across the world right now.

Death to China

>>4733782
What did Aqua do?

>>4734744
Lurk more, unironically

>>4734744
they are talking about me

>>4763827
>>4764664
Such huge chad energy...

>Such huge chad energy...

>>4741009
same ugly vibe

>>4766363
This, her music sucks

>>4766363
She could theoretically be well off if she ends up as a vtuber version of her roommate. She would probably have a big boost and everything. But she would also end up with a diehard antis, specially if she ends up joining Vshojo. Talking about her would be impossible in this board. It'd be a hundred times worse than the hate Nyanners gets.

>>4739245
Yeah, that's why you don't hire someone overqualified. They won't commit to the job, and they'll treat it with contempt.

>>4772061
why would she join vshojo?
she doesnt like being a vtuber
she's literally only there to promote her own music

>>4772187
Not a lot of people are going to stick with her if she goes full music anon. If she does leave Hololive she'll still be a vtuber as it's the only way her music will be relevant.

>>4763591
>And what do you think happens when the only streamers people see wind up being a degenerate friend group that's not funny or interesting, who are all coasting hy solely on branding and efame?
hololive?

>>4772236
if she's willing to continue being a vtuber then why would she leave hololive?

>>4772187
Because Gigguk's wife is in Vshojo and being a vtuber makes her money for barely any effort. She will always have a group of people who are still in it "for the music" but will still religiously catch her streams and superchat her.

>>4772270
Because Hololive "restricts" her too much.

>>4771550
cuckbeats can even reply properly

>>4772302
Hololive restricts her by making her stream, lol
I don't think she's dumb enough to leave Hololive just so she can collab with more dudes

>>4732455
Vshojo would unironically be a way better fit for her, she is too western for holo culture.

>>4763827
>and Ollie who was severely affected by blowback recently

What happened with Ollie?

Also, who's Mori's roommate?

>she still cared enough to put work into streaming as Noel
Noel is doing 水商売?

I'm newfag. But also, I can speak JP so, hope I can help you guys here in the future.

>>4764664
>>4763827
AAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>4772433
>What happened with Ollie?
"Ollie got fingered in the HoloID 2nd gen phasmaphobia stream" rrat that got around here.

>>4732455
>I also like trash taste and Vshojo. Does that make me a faggot or something
yes.
you also most assuredly are obsessed with rick and morty and should go back to redit

>>4772356
Hololive restricts who she can collab with, and y'know like, owns her character, and like, puts expectations for her, and like, she can't talk about boys and periods and stuff, dude.

>>4771155
>>4772433
No, Noel doesn't do anything close to that sort. Just ask in her thread on /jp/ since I didn't want to discuss much of her roommate's work here.
Nevertheless, she made enough to complain about tax and having her own personal accountant, which is rare, IIRC. Her audio studio is still homemade but she is still improving upon on it to fulfill her dream of helping/instructing Internet's creator with their audio works.

>>4772433
Noel is also a RL titty streamer

>>4772629
The more I learned about Noel, the more I think she's very inspiring. I'm not really into her streams though.

>>4772722
Yeah there's two things that are really inspiring about her

>>4772722
She's an odd girl and her streams are not for everyone but she's incredibly passionate about audio and streaming, in general. She has been doing this since early days of NND and her risque stuff was only about the time COVID started, she moved to streaming full-time and suffered from weird complex about streaming =/= real job.
She used to stream while still worked office jobs and back when she did her STEM/chemistry/bio(?) degree.
By all means, in Japan, she was a monster of a streamer who was the biggest hire Cover got when she auditioned.

>>4742667
your opinion isn't silenced, as evident by the fact that we all see your retarded drivel, faggot

>>4763827
>>4764664
just in time for e3, shazam-sama is too powerful

>>4772884
These Mori hate threads have made me the most Unity I've been in a long while.

Thanks Mori?

>>4764664
>>4763827
I fucking kneel
Mori, you need to shape up. If your next collabs are still poor, this is the future mandatory post for every 5beat thread

>>4772243
Funny.

But you know as well as I do that Hololive members built up the brand and efame they're coasting on by working hard and sacrificing. Even the indos and myth have respect and gratitude for what the jp talent have accomplished in terms of popularizing vtubers around the world.

The only two real, persistent problems are Mori and Ollie. Mori just doesn't care about hololive and wants to act like an indie on the company's dime. Ollie's an irreparable kinkster who not only got off being literally and unironically fingerfucked by her boyfriend ON A PUBLIC FAMILY FRIENDLY STREAM WHILE CHILDREN WATCHED, she even dragged her genmates in to provide cover AND bear witness to her every lurid gasp and moan.

Both want to break down the standards and traditions that made hololive so prestigious in the first place, which insults and degrades the talent who worked to build up hololive in the first place just so those two could use it as their designated shitting street. This is why they're hated. They may like being in hololive, but they don't truly understand what it means to be hololive. It's about self improvement and cleaning oneself up to be better than your past incarnation. It's a redemption arc. It's about comrade, community and putting on a good show. What it's NOT about is activism, taking the company's people and resources for granted, or thinking that you're self-important enough to smash pre-establiahed methodologies with a sledgehammer just because you find them inconvenient after voluntarily joining a company that you should've known would apply those standards to you as well.

It's like coming to 4chan and complaining about racism. They don't have to be hololive if they don't want to. They can go back to being independent. But if they're gonna take the money then there's the expectation they'll be good team players and not fuck things up for the rest of the company or the fans who watch their streams.

Why do people simp corporations

>>4785300
You get too deep into a fandom and the product becomes your personality. Any attack on the corporation is an attack on you. Happens to the best of us. This is especially noticeable in video game and capeshit communities.

>>4785300
Indies have no standards

>>4781668
based

>>4749873
Anon, she still has PTSD from THAT AmongUs collab. I don't think she can handle negative pressure at all.

The problem isn't EN, it's that its summer and every edgy child who thinks 4chan is a cool secret club is turning up to ruin the quality of the board with their new free time.

>>4765623
the problem with her is that she didnt have a regular job there. she couldve considering her japanese skills but wasnt so socially well adjusted

>>4739245
this. Who cares? let her be. i love mori and mostly only watch clips anyway.
Not everyone needs to commit like Korone and i think i like calli more like this, so she can release more music

>>4789121
stfu clipfag

>>4781668
>believing that ollie rrats
Yeah you're a gullible retard