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>bit of a lighter week
>streams everyday
>9 streams total
>while also recording stuff for their idol project

>> No.47026713
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47026713

>>47026489
Daily reminder that Aletta stole 70k from her fans and ran away with the money

>> No.47026885

>>47026713
Her fans can just subscribe to her new channel, what's the big deal?

>> No.47026967

>>47026885
When will she return the money?

>> No.47027135

>>47026967
>implying any of the money reached aletta
Get your refund and stop whining

>> No.47027198

>>47026489
Imagine selling your heart, body and soul for a company who drove away half of your co-workers kek

Twitter 2.0 dev energy from Nene

>> No.47027207

>>47026489
It's called fulltime, jobless chama

>> No.47027493

>>47027135
Sure and, beware people, don't fall for the scam again on her new account, there is no company to refund you money anymore.

>> No.47027627

>>47027493
I doubt she'll leave her indie persona anytime soon. And I'd doubt she'd sell herself like that donothon made her as well.

>> No.47027672

You have no idea she genuinely loves her fans/husbands and what she means by light week is a full week for most. She typically streams twice a day everyday except umineko day and ASMR sunday. Her streams are 3 to 5 hours long sometimes they go longer she streams almost 8 hours a day on average. Good to have a woman who cares about you and takes pride in what she is doing not that you faggot OP would know what that's like.

>> No.47027783

>>47027493
I'm confused why refunds are even necessary. She's still going to stream, so is it just because she'll look different and have a different name?

>> No.47027810

>>47027135
Profit sharing is part of the contract

>> No.47028136

>>47027810
If Kawaii is willing to refund every donation, you can be sure none of that profit sharing reached her.

>> No.47028148

>>47027783
It's the right thing to do for any fans that feel betrayed by the whole thing.

>> No.47028194

>>47027783
Because she scammed her fans by not meeting her goals

>> No.47028268

>>47026489
You have to grind like Nene if you want to have decent numbers.

>> No.47028331

>>47026489
Nene has always been OP, I like her a lot but I wish she didn't lean so hard into the bimbo character performance.

>> No.47028353

Donothon is a concept that I still can't wrap my head around it. I mean isn't this a scam?

>> No.47028355

>>47028136
This is as true as her aunt's illness

>> No.47028425

>>47027783
They donated to the character she killed, knowing the company had a cut in the money, when I donate to Kawaii girls or even holo girls, I want to support the company, if they betray the company, I'm scammed.

>> No.47028465

>>47027783
Nobody knows how they'll be on different accounts, one of the "innocent" and supposed "pure" ones collabs with a super whore that posts nudes online a few days after they left
Refunds are the company being nice because they care about the fans more than the traitors ever did

>> No.47028513

>>47026489
Nene is good.
She could've easily been one of the best talents in either HoloEN or HoloJP since she is fluent in both languages.
The fact that she sticks with a literal who corpo like Kawaii is the testament to her loyalty and also Kawaii not being completely shit.

>> No.47028528

>>47028353
It is only a scam if the person does not deliver the rewards and runs away with the money

>> No.47028621

>>47027783
Because people wouldn't stop complaining and will call it a scam. Refunds is nice but no company actually wanted to do that.

>> No.47028767

>>47028513
I don't watch Nene that much but I'm thankful to her carrying the whole company with her big b-shoulders.

>> No.47029125

The truth is that her fans deserve to be robbed. Imagine donating 30k to
Alban's cocksleeve
https://files.catbox.moe/vcosiu.mp4

>> No.47029531

>>47029125
>How her voice instantly goes up several octaves when she realizes who it is
Grim. I was told PK was the gfe corpo.

>> No.47029848

>>47029531
Gen3 was a mistake and ruined Kawaii. She wanted to have collabs with Uncle Roger from day one

>> No.47030459

>>47026713
Can you link me to the special sleepy ASMR and original song and minigame that she did for the rewards?

>> No.47030856

>>47029125
I mean... Nene is technically Koshita's cocksleeve as well

>> No.47031016

>>47027810
Profit sharing occurs AFTER the money has been processed by the company.
Company takes 100% of the money first, processes it, THEN gives the share to the talent.
Aletta left before receiving any of it if the company is able to refund 100% of the earnings.

>> No.47031106

>>47030459
She didn't deliver the rewards, anon

>> No.47031133

>>47030459
>he thinks she did the rewards
lel

>> No.47031253

Roller Coster Tycoon, Princess Maker 2, and Bloodborne in the same fucking week? Supremely based choices in games.

>> No.47031326

>>47028513
You Nene ass-kissers are seriously irritating. She could come out and say she personally harassed and bullied all the Gen 3 girls into graduating and your kind would clap and say how brave she was.

>> No.47031381

>>47031326
Simps basically.

>> No.47031416

Holy fuck, Umineko and Princess Maker 2? That's kino, Nenebros are eating good this week

>> No.47031425

>>47031016
Streamlabs processes payments in 3 days

>> No.47031480

>>47031425
How many accountants do you think Kawaii has?

If it's anything like their marketing budget then lmao, it's the CEO doing the math.

>> No.47031522

>>47031326
Do you know why people defend Nene? Because she has been at Kawaii for 2 years and has not betrayed our trust

>> No.47031599

>>47031480
Moving the goalspost

>> No.47031612

>>47026489
I know Holodrones are scared of working Vtubers, but vtubers who love their work stream. Nene has always maintained a busy schedule.

>> No.47031752

>>47031425
Is streamlabs the company? I thought it was Kawaii.

>> No.47031819

>>47031599
I wasn't even that anon, but it's stupid as fuck that you think they process the payments anywhere near quick enough to get the talents their money ASAP.

If they are willing to refund every donation, they still have the money. You think they would refund it at a loss? Hell no, it's a business, not a charity.

>> No.47032301

>>47031752
>>47031819
Streamlabs processes the payment. Kawaii takes the money and shares it with the talent. One month is enough time to deliver the money

>> No.47032396

>>47026713
Anyone still supporting her after her simping for nijien homos are complete fucking retards.

>> No.47032405

>>47032301
I posted in this in the other thread and I'll just copy and paste it here.
Streamlabs isn't the same as Kawaii firstly.
Secondly, unless Kawaii has some advanced level accountants or accounting software, payment processing is not a 1 month endeavor, if you want an example, go look at how long it took Nijisanji to refund their cancelled concerts, twice.
They took longer than a month despite ALL of the payments going directly to the company.
Thirdly, the corpo is not going to refund 100% of the money if they have to pay some of it out of their own pockets. No corpo would do that because it is not their obligation.
They will pay however much they have left. If they can pay 100% of the profit back as refunds, it means that Aletta received none of it.

>> No.47032516

>>47031326
Yes.
She should have stoned them while screaming "Haram!". Sadly she is not based enough.

>> No.47033116

>>47032405
All companies use payment services, including Nijisanji. Streamlabs' service is the most efficient in the industry, and Kawaii manages less talent than Niji, which makes it possible to pay her share within that timeframe. Also, profit sharing is part of the contract and violating this clause can lead to a million-dollar lawsuit

>> No.47033173

>>47033116
I don't know if you're the same anon I'm debating with in the other thread but I think you are because you have the exact same points, regardless I'll copy and paste my response again.
The niji thing wasn't about the talents. It was about the concert.
They don't have to divvy up the profit for the talents in a concert.
If anything, Niji should have been able to refund a lot faster because none of the talents matter in terms of profit from ticket sales. But no, it took them ages.
I'll accept that corpos use payment services and streamlabs is good at what it does. However, that doesn't take away from the fact that corpos take forever and a day to do these things, whether or not it's out of sheer laziness or something else, you and I will never know.
And even if all of what we just spoke about means that they can pay Aletta faster, they still wouldn't refund 100% of the donothon money if they let her have some of it. There is no lawful obligation to do so and if you believe in your heart that Kawaii is somehow a patron saint of a corpo that would pay out of their own pocket then I've been debating this with a retard this entire time. Please don't let that be the case.

>> No.47033741

>>47033173
I am the same anon and I debated your points in the other thread. I just wonder why you are defending someone who betrayed the trust of her fans

>> No.47034336

>>47033741
NTA but you're telling me it's not even about the payments, it's about your perceived trust being betrayed?

Do you understand that Aletta had no obligation to stay, right? She wasn't a slave. She did this because she wanted to, despite knowing she would leave some of her fans behind, despite knowing that this was just one of many donothons she could have had. You're bullshitting me if you make the argument that she doesn't care, she does for a very pragmatic reason: she wants to continue to be a vtuber and to have people support that lifestyle. Just like Nene and probably just like the rest of the girls.

Them leaving is a sign that the company was dysfunctional, an argument supported by other people who left (Hana's indie persona), and that any significant changes would not be fulfilled. Plainly, they saw their success as their own, and if you really cared about Aletta, you would follow her to her indie account where she plans to continue streaming.

But something tells me you don't really care about her and just want to shitfling in a vain attempt to smear their name along with the shell of a company you call Gen 1 and 2. Nobody outside of /pkg/ will listen to you unless you have an compelling argument to make and from the looks of it, the only thing you have is that "she maybe, probably, likely stole her fan's money" despite ignoring her indie persona. She didn't run, she's right there.

>> No.47034665

>>47034336
Lmaoooooo holy mother of anti retards. No you are not being anti corpo now. You are antiing all the girls in the company by operating on a "black compant" meme.
But honestly, as expected from /vt/ retards. Every other company is a black company to you. Even niji JP and EN, just because it had some internal issues. Even Holo JP because of Mel and Coco.
Yeah. EEEEEEVERYONE WORKS FOR BLACK COMPANIES.
Give me a break retard.

>> No.47034697

>>47034336
>massive donothon
>leaves a month after
It does set a precedent. If she can leave a place that has been good for her just because she thinks something else will be better, she can do it again. Maybe for something outside vtubing alltogether.

>> No.47034749

>new companies pop up
>start trying to take out competition and possibly funnel viewers to their own girls
many such cases

>> No.47034822

>>47034665
Dysfunction does not mean black, it means incompetence. There's tangible proof of this and the Gen 3 girls decided it wasn't for them. Kawaii deserved this, whether you think it justified or not. You don't let an entire generation of your most popular talents leave, you fight for them and make them feel like they are valuable. They weren't.

>>47034697
Everyone and their mother is doing donothons. It was only massive because of her size and growth. The only precedent it sets is that Kawaii isn't worth the money to stay and grow.

>> No.47034838

>>47034697
Vtubing became a get "rich" quick scheme. None of these girls are in it for the long run. Thats why many /wvt/ retards debut and re-debut over and over and over again. Debut buff + donothon and they're out.

>> No.47034889

>>47034336
>an argument supported by other people who left (Hana's indie persona)
You realize Hana left very early in the company's existence, right? Kawaii definitely made a lot of bad decisions back then, but a lot has also noticeably changed in the almost 2 years since then.

>> No.47034943

>>47034838
>ignored her ccv when she debuted
>ignored her luck with the algorithm and constant grind
>"get rich quick"
Now you're just being a retard. Most vtubers never actually make money.

Nene should have been the first one to leave but something tells me Kinoshita's cock (or favoritism) is making her stay.

>> No.47034952

>>47028425
>I want to support the company
>Not the talents
Do holokeks really?

>> No.47034990

>>47027810
The very contract she scratched? Kawaii opened refunds for the donothos so most of these money were yet to be get to her and now she isnt going to see them for sure

>> No.47035012

>>47026489
It's called motivation. I wish my oshi Gura had 1/10 of her motivation.

>> No.47035023

>>47034336
People donated thousands of dollars and bought merch to support her journey. Instead of respecting the hard work of her fans, she left us without fulfilling her promises

>> No.47035065

>>47035023
She didn't believe in her journey with Kawaii was leading anywhere. Weird to think that you disagree with her.

>> No.47035081

>>47034943
Aletta will be definitely taking cocks since two of her paypigs paid 20k dollar each for a 5min discord talk that will now not happen under Kawaii restrictions.
I expect her to post cosplay picks and open an onlyfans too. Just under another name.

>> No.47035146

>>47034943
Nene has her own pride, ego, and value and believe she can build the company to be great with her as the face of the company. The only that can make her leave is the company actually doing something shitty, collapsing, or maybe a free ticket to hololive (which anyone would go for). I keep up with a lot of small corpo and I know how shitty things can be. Kawaii does okay for its size and budget and they have generally solid rules and policies in place.

>> No.47035180

>>47034990
She did not break the contract. Otherwise the announcement would be of termination, not graduation

>> No.47035201

>>47034943
Wow you are the "Nene is an evil mastermind" guy. No point in arguing with you. I think I know exactly who you are and what is your goal here.
Funny how some things that were good enough for gen 1 and 2 are all of a sudden bad for 3 and only for 3. Hana and Aruru quit for very different reasons and two obvious snakes got fired.
But keep going with your retarded activism.
Also
>vtubers dont make any money
lmao. this is a side gig for most of them. and if they are still studying/fresh out of uni/college, debut + donothon cash + memberships, etc. are more than enough as some pocket money. Not to mention gifts from their wish lists.

>> No.47035257

>>47035065
Weird to think you post like gen 3's spokes person. Sava really pitted some angry /wvt/ faggots against all of Kawaii. I know sure as hell that Aletta wouldn't do it.

>> No.47035287

>>47026489
If all streams from this bitch are on Youtube then her output in hours isn't as large as you're implying. You can find holos, nijis, vspos and indies who put way more hours into streaming every month.

>> No.47035292

>>47035201
>things that were good enough for gen 1 and 2
Things were never good for Gen 1 or 2, as evidenced by their ~20-30 ccv before Gen 3 came along. They just put up with it because there was no better example. idolEN and EIEN came and changed that.

>> No.47035332

>>47035065
This is because she doesn't care about her fans, but about the money. The girls from gen1 and gen2 had bigger problems, but they stayed in the company because of their fans. After this bitch raised 70k she felt like the queen of the Universe and thinks that people should obey her retarded demands

>> No.47035425

>>47035257
the first collab from one of the graduated girls was a /wvt/ slut who posted her tits on /trash/ for money.
Easy to see that the indie seething 2views are behind the "corpo bad", "strong and independent vtuber" crap

>> No.47035443

>>47035332
Fans follow talent, not the company. Corpo loyalty is a hololive thing. At least it was until Kawaiifags took their oshi's word as gospel even if they were a mouthpiece of management.

Good luck following a skeleton crew while they pick substandard talent now that their name is ruined.

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>>47026489
NOOOOOOOOOOOO WHY DOES SHE ENJOY HER JOB?! SHE SHOULD BE LAZY LIKE ME, ITS NOT FAAAAAAAIIIIR!!1

>> No.47035503

>>47035292
EIEN wouldn't be shit if they debut during those days neither. Small corpo EN were equally small back in the day. Maybe idolEN would be big due to fuck tons of money but they Jew wouldn't have invested back then because he couldn't smell money yet. Half of phase were also at sub 50's ccv as well.

>> No.47035520

>>47035443
>substandard talent
there is not talent in the western vtubing indie scene, can't pick what doesn't exist.

>> No.47035523

>>47035443
have you never been in a smallcorp thread or something? or seen how the nijifags turn on people who leave?

>> No.47035641
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>nene this
>nene that
She is a shitter, Tenma has a better consistent CCV than her

>> No.47035670

>>47035292
Bad examples. Many other corpos like tsun, prism etc also struggled to incline back then. Also, some girls barely streamed (like Isla for example) and only Nene took it seriously. If kawaii and other older small corpos started today, it would be much different. I mean Eien debuted literal whores and their CEO is a literal patreon whore, and they still got good numbers right from the start. Also dont forget about agressive idol and eien astroturfing before they debuted. That really wasnt the case with kawaii or prism for example.
You are absolutelly arguing in bad faith like a slimey cock sucker just to push your narrative.

>> No.47035688

>>47035443
The kawaii fags trust their oshi because they haven't let them down. I got let down as a gaokek because I defended her thinking she was better than this. Why would I follow her?

>> No.47035693

>>47035641
She is based because keeps doing Umineko voiceover streams no one gives a fuck about other than herself, and she has a lot of fun doing them.

>> No.47035704

>>47035292
I watched Pippa when she streamed for like 70-ish people. This means that COMPANY BAD!
Fucking retard.

>> No.47035758

>>47035641
Tenma also branched out, streamed on twitch and did borderline normalfag react content. She just piggy backed of what Pippa started and where Pippa succeeded.

>> No.47035828

>>47026489
you know something? bit of a tangent but I'd been avoiding kawaii since learning of them a while back because of the gen 3 girl who started simping for a nijiguy on stream.

seeing this amount of effort, well, I think I might check out Nene sometime soon, since it's clear to me my conceptions were built on members who neither respected the company nor reflected the efforts and values of their main talents.

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>>47026713

>> No.47035938

>>47026489
Nene is the only full time streamer at Kawaii, retard-kun

>> No.47035959

>>47035938
Well the other one left the black company

>> No.47035968

>>47035443
Why should I follow Aletta after she won thousands of dollars and left us with no explanation? I work lifting metal and heavy objects to sign membership and give donos and these whores think they deserve the world because they stream 4 hours a day. Let her and her back stabbing friends starve as indie Vtubers so they can appreciate the effort and dedication of their fans

>> No.47036009

>>47035886
kek

>> No.47036135

It demonstrates everything wrong with kawaii, the other 6 girls don't even have anything on the schedule except for reina trying to get views dropping the 'real details' of the story. It is literally just "the Nene show" and these other part timer girls who just kind of get dragged along by the efforts of nene and previously oceane and aletta and sava, Gen 3 was saving that company after Hana and K-chan left and it almost folded back in november 2021, but they managed to be completely retarded and alienate that generation instead of just fucking giving them 3d idol so they would in the 'production' of kawaii, their primary complaint.

>>47028425
She literally designed the character herself kek.

>> No.47036171

>>47035968
You should kill yourself because tradies will be replaced by robots and mexicans and that's a good thing.

>> No.47036189

>>47036171
Two more weeks.

>> No.47036239

>>47036135
Reina and Nami are both on breaks retard. Reina left on a trip and Nami is moving. I think Isla just started her break too. They usually have their schedule if they aren't on break.

>> No.47036265

>>47036171
AI will replace white collar jobs and ethots like Aletta first. Neuro-sama is a million times more talented than that Chinese whore

>> No.47036371

>>47036265
White collar jobs will continue to exist because 90% are unnecessary and have been for 100 years, they primarily exist in order to fluff a company which is largely automated or to have backup laborers when the primary accountant who does all the work isn't there so there are lazy retards who aren't as good to keep working. Most importantly is that the central banking system prints money specifically to 'create' these jobs, which is why the tech industry is about 10 times larger than it should be in terms of employment- no one needs a "diversity office of inclusion" at amazon, but it exists to provide work to people (women) with college degrees who would otherwise be unemployable.

Tradies on the other hand are annoying, can break valuable equipment and their jobs can literally be done by a guy named paco that's soaking wet. This is why white collar jobs will continue to exist while blue collar jobs will be folded into a single Forklift certified worker who can run all the machines.

>> No.47036397

>>47036239
>everyone just normally goes on a break right as the company is collapsing
You're the actual retard.

>> No.47036404

>>47036135
Only Oceane and Aletta had stand out number in gen 3 and had close to Nene's number but the rest of gen 3 that recently left were the one throwing ultimatum to rush management to fire Oceane in the first place. Sava has around the same # as the rest of kawaii girls. Peony/miryu were having below average number but recently just picked up some momentum.

>> No.47036433

>>47036397
They planned the break before gen 3 had their menhera break down and demanded negotiation and wanting to leave.

>> No.47036465

>>47035968
This is why I only get emotionally invested in Holos and indies. Anything in between is too unprofessional, menhera, or suffering under the oppression of evil managers.

>> No.47036568

>>47035641
Kawaiis aren't being flood spammed on the catalog by a pack a of Twitter 3rd worlders.
That alone makes her 10 times better than your Shill Connect garbage.

>> No.47036583

>>47035704
I still remember the retards spamming "I like when Pippa goes pipipi", it was really funny when I went to look and it was a girl doing low-tier stars JP numbers

>> No.47036655

>>47035670
>tsun, prism
also black corpos, prism didnt even give most of the girls membership

>> No.47036663

>>47036371
AI can already analyze documents, perform surgery, write papers, and program better than 100% of the retards who went into debt to get a degree. My job will continue to exist, but your office work will be replaced by an algorithm made by Indians who earn $15 a day

>> No.47036691

>>47035670
>agressive idol and eien astroturfing
I know kawaii fags don't understand this concept but it's advertising, it helps you grow
Kawaii refused to buy ads for the idol project they've been hyping for a year. The girls had to do their own ads for the 3D debuts

>> No.47036817

>>47036135
Holy retard threadwatcher. Isla goes to Japan frequently and records stuff LOL
Can you at least get SOME of the info right if you wanna go on a kawaii anti campaign? This shit is pathetic.
You posted in this thread about 20 times btw ;)

>> No.47036850

>>47036135
>the other 6 girls don't even have anything on the schedule
Lua has her schedule up and will be streaming in 4 hours, even though she's sick
>Gen 3 was saving that company
The only one bringing in the numbers was Letti. Sava had similar numbers as the rest of Kawaii. Peony was barely a 2view and Miryu on top of being a 2view loved her senpai, so I highly doubt the two of them were keen on leaving without the peer pressure of their other 2 manipulative "friends" and will most likely fail even harder without the brand name backing them up, even if its someone small like kawaii, which is tragic cause I genuinely like those two

>>47036397
NTA, but the breaks were scheduled before gen3 suddenly left without prior notice. The only retard I see here is (You), threadreader-chama

>> No.47036873

>>47036691
I honestly don't understand what took them so long to realise that ads do indeed work. It's not even some secret business secret, it's common sense.

>> No.47036905

Nene is a hardworking professional who cares or at the very least put effort into pretending she cares about her job and fans. I'll trust her corpo as long as she does.

>> No.47036915

>>47036397
Reina quite literally until recently had both her mom and her "other" mom as she calls her sick and in the hospital. She almost lost 2 of the most important people in her life. On top of that she had to take a very tiring business trip from where she did twitter spaces for us and she said "I'm literally gonna die" from how tired shw was. No wonder she took a break.
Just shut the fuck up you are operating on catalog rrats rather than real info.

>> No.47036948

>>47029531
Little did you know, it is GFE corp

>> No.47036975

>>47036905
Yeah, Nene love.

>> No.47037004

>>47036691
While I think Idol/Eien's overly aggressive advertising and constant begging /here/ is disgusting, I have to agree that Kawaii is immensely retarded for not doing the same, at least to a reasonable extent.

>> No.47037027

>>47037004
But no one did it back then. It was just a different time.

>> No.47037053

>>47036873
It's probably personal bias. The corpo literally 5 people + talents. Say the managers and CEO felt like they never pay attention and always skip that shit, they simply decide not to do ads. They probably run on a tight profit margin and putting ads to the equation for all girls would be costly, especially if they purchase ads for an extended period. However, they should have done ads for special events and they probably start doing it now.

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>> No.47037087

>>47037027
Right, but its still not too late to start doing it now. Got to keep up with the changes if you want to make it in the industry.

>> No.47037091

>>47037004
I remember Rosemi and Petra streaming for 300-ish people back then. Their girls only inclined when Luxiem exploded. Does that make Niji EN immensely ret....you know what...don't answer that.

>> No.47037117

>>47026713
5K. Shouldnt it be chicken borgar 'grilling' stream? 0

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>> No.47037157

>>47028465
Who?

>> No.47037191

>>47037157
the fairy

>> No.47037200

>>47036873
they know it works, they say they're against digital advertisement

>> No.47037205

>>47036905
I was subscribed to Nene's 5,000 JPY fanbox for 6 months and only received the full rewards for 1 month, and partial for 2 months before receiving nothing for 3 months and then canceling it. Very hard working indeed..

>> No.47037208

>>47037117
You do not grill fried chicken

>> No.47037229

>>47037004
japanese vs western company culture

>> No.47037279

>>47037205
Really retarded to not fulfill or even spoil paying customers. Every research paper shows that when someone has paid they are much much more likely to pay again. With a subscription service it is even more vital since if you keep them for long enough there is a chance that they forget about the sub and you get paid from a customer that wouldnt be paying anymore

>> No.47037305

>>47037205
she's busy with her irl "entertainment" job, please understand

>> No.47037349

>>47037279
She just had more subscribers than she expected and misjudged what she could do for rewards, Fanbox is more like donation with extra steps..

>> No.47037361

>>47035443
No, sorry. A lot of us support talents when they're in the company and ignore them when they leave. Especially, if they're a bunch of backstabbers (Miryu did nothing wrong, though).

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>>47037205
>>47037279
>>47037305

>> No.47037410

>>47037384
It is easter so all EUchads are home
t. euchad

>> No.47037435

>>47037361
Miryu is the one I might even think about following if she doesn't hang out with the others too much.

>> No.47037446

>>47037349
Both Nene and Lua literally said that. They said don't expect much on here this is just for some extra support if anyone wants to subscribe. Lua said that she will sometimes put an ASMR on there, and people still bitched like she needs to record a new one every 3 days lol.
These are turbo antis obviously. Like that faggot that stole the screenshot of a year long membership and posted a bait thread that he will leave Nene.

>> No.47037458

>>47037349
>>47037446
>scamming is okay when nene does it

>> No.47037460

>>47037200
Now this makes even less sense, it's like they're deliberately shooting themselves in the foot.

>>47037053
That's something at least.

>> No.47037491

>>47037460
they're japanese, japanese corpos have principles
of course a jew shill like you wouldn't understand

>> No.47037523

>>47037458
Don't get scammed bro

>> No.47037530

>>47037446
You fucking faggots are getting tiresome. I'm the one who made that thread you keep calling "bait". I didnt steal that screenshot but what can I do to prove that to you?
>>47037205
Is also me and part of the reason I decided to cancel the membership.

>> No.47037549

>>47037200
Not true, they are very open to things that work, they just didn`t believe it was gonna work.

>> No.47037649

>>47037530
Yeah, you have a bone to pick with Nene.
Did she call you out personally on twitter recently? For being a sperg in her twitter mentions?

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>>47037091
Inclined? I was a rosebud back then and I can assure you that Rosemi did not incline after Luxiem exploded. Quite the opposite. Her numbers had a noticeable dip back then.
Her subs grew because a lot of yumejos flooded in, who wanted to catch every bit of the boys, even if it was just collabs, but never watched her solo streams, meanwhile some of her parasocial fans, who she had a lot of, simply left because of those collabs.
Her celebration streams are prime example, where you could see her 150k celebration stream having more views than her 250k one, which is post-Luxiem. Hell even the double amount at 300k barely went over the 150k one, even though the numbers should have been doubled.

I can't believe I committed numberfaggotry. I'm gonna go wash my hands after this.

>> No.47037686

>>47037649
No I dont use twitter.

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>>47037649
>1+ year membership cancelled
>subscribed to the patreon expecting stuff when nene herself said it was just another donation avanue and wouldn't be doing much on it for now
>sperging out for multiple days

https://twitter.com/amanene_kawaii/status/1641207073798078466
it's clearly one of these guys
now they have something to hurt Nene with that is not just their absolute retardation lmao

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>>47037849
>>subscribed to the patreon expecting stuff when nene herself said it was just another donation avanue and wouldn't be doing much on it for now
Then why advertise it with benefits if you aren't going to deliver those? Are cucktomos really like this?

>> No.47038197

imagine being evil enough to go after a girl as nice and sweet as nene
why are you like this aletta?

>> No.47038199

>>47028425
>I want to support the company
Kek

>> No.47038205

>>47038042
As a full time streamer she cant do two ASMR voice packs and some signed digital polaroids? Really? lmao just stop streaming umineko and you have time to do it and time to have some masturbation sessions

>> No.47038256

https://neneamano.fanbox.cc/posts?page=1
She did follow through on the benefits though

>> No.47038262

>>47037679
Bro remember when she did that space stream? I don't think she even had 400 people watching her. After Luxiem, every other stream was like 1-2-3k depending on the content or the collab partner.

>> No.47038302

>>47037849
The guy has to be mega schizo to piss off Nene. Traitortomos are pathetic

>> No.47038415

>>47026489
tenshi rabu

>> No.47038591

>I want to know what I get for membering, so I can decide if its worth my money
Not a cloudhomo, don't even watch Nene, but I never understood why faggots want prizes for supporting chuubas. Shouldn't you support them because you like them? Do you only do it to get shiny new toys that no one else gets to have? Why not have the same mentality when sending a supa then?
Let's be honest, you don't give a shit about the chuubas, you just want to measure cocks with other fans, like the faggots that you are

>> No.47040266

>>47038591
Memberships *usually* come with exclusive content that you otherwise wouldn't have access too. I don't think it's crazy to want to know what benefits you'll be getting, or being confused/upset if you don't receive what's advertised.

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>>47038591
>Shouldn't you support them because you like them?
She's not getting much from my 50 pesos (or 20 after koshita and the goverment take their cuts), I might as well be selective with tham

>> No.47042006

>>47027672
Nene is our Angel and we have to do everything in our power to earn everything she does for us. I love her so much

>> No.47042478

>>47026489
Nene is the heart and soul of kawaii, she does so much work for them and she deserves every last drop of love we can give her.
She worked so hard and was betrayed by the new talent, it made her sick and she's still working this hard.
You aren't helping her by hurting the company. She keeps telling us the management aren't the bad guys. Whether or not she would be more successful elsewhere, she is loyal and grateful to her current team and it would make her sad to have to start over, especially since she loves the designs she made for her models.
>>47037305
wtf are you talking about?
>>47037205
Have you been watching the streams? She keeps talking about how she's stressed, tired, and sorry that she hasn't caught up with fanbox rewards.
And by the way, as someone in the fanbox, I also didn't get my rewards for a couple months but now she is posting them, just got some that was on the backlog.
How the fuck are 11 streams a week, vocal and music lessons, usually at least one short video a day, constantly sharing fanart and her genmate's content, and then still making fanbox and membership ASMRs for us NOT working hard and caring? What the fuck do YOU do with your life?
I can't believe people like you can be so self centered. Nene works harder than anyone I've ever met.
I can't wait for her to add the 20K yen tier on her fanbox so I can increase my support for her.

>> No.47042587

>>47038591
I wish I was that unselfish but I want both. I want to support her as much as possible and also feel loved by her. Plus like another anon said the subscriptions are good for businesses because those payments will keep coming to her even if I don't remember to click the buttons for it.
This way she gets my membership fees and then I also can make some donations on top of it.

>> No.47042667

>>47042478 (me)
>Whether or not she would be more successful elsewhere, she is loyal and grateful to her current team and it would make her sad to have to start over, especially since she loves the designs she made for her models.
That being said if anything ever does happen and kawaii goes under or mistreats her, my loyalty is her more than the corpo and I'll follow her.

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>>47026489
>Umineko
I kneel.

>> No.47043132

>>47030459
She didn't meet the goals, thats the point

>> No.47043318

>>47027672
>>47042006
I hope none of you faggots buy into this anime girl fantasy unironically and actually feel betrayed when you discover that the person behind the screen either has a man or considers streaming a daily grind like any job.

>> No.47043543

What's a butt run in ER?

>> No.47043600

>>47043543
>ER
>Elder Ring
>Erotic Roleplay
what do you think?
I have no idea actually

>> No.47044060

>>47043543
>>47043600
She is playing Elden Ring and using only the ground-pound aka butt slam attack to damage and defeat enemies. She is really good at it. She just beat the Big Boggart last time.

>> No.47044164

>>47043318
It has nothing to do with her being an anime girl, I'm sure the real Nene is even prettier than the model she uses.
I wouldn't be surprised that she does consider at least part of her job a daily grind, and I appreciate that as well. Work and life is a grind and going through it well is commendable.

>> No.47045272

>>47027810
Yeah, but who signs the paycheck? I assume all profits would go to the company first, they take their cut, and send the rest to the talent. It wouldn't be smart business wise to do so in reverse

>> No.47045884

>>47044164
Huh, you're the most sane /vt/ anon.
>I'm sure the real Nene is even prettier than the model she uses
Dunno about that but she has a beautiful soul.

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>>47026489
I just blew a fat load to Nene

>> No.47046111

>>47046022
he can't keep getting away with this!

>> No.47046208

>>47032405
>If they can pay 100% of the profit back as refunds, it means that Aletta received none of it.
Her groomers on the discord have already been instructed to take that money to her new persona.

>> No.47046466

>>47046208
>she stole 70k!!!
That's not true.
>well she stole at least 35k!!!
No evidence.
>w...well she's making her fans donate that money to her new persona!!!
Keep moving that goal post you'll make it eventually.

>> No.47046558

>>47046208
so they chose to give her the money again, this time 100% of it (minus taxes) instead of just 50%?

>> No.47047281

>>47046558
yeah, for the same money you can now have discord VC sex with her

>> No.47049296

I’m filtered by her stage persona but respect to nene for streaming umineko in spite of her management and numbers. I’ve watched at least the more significant moments and while it’s grating sometimes her feelings shine through.

>> No.47049555

>>47049296
Umineko brainrot and fate type moon brainrot are the 2 things nene can't truly escape.

>> No.47049571

Once again, Kawaiikeks and cloudtomos are proving themselves to be just like the nijisisters that lambasted Zaion when she decided to call it quits.
You'll start seeing unironic gen 3 doxx in these threads and /pkg/ soon.

>> No.47049673

>>47049571
Oceane already took care of that, unironically

>> No.47049892

>>47049673
Oceane might dox them for real because they aren't protected by NDA by being under kawaii anymore. She's probably most bitter against them more than anyone, considered that gen 3 members pushed the hardest for kawaii to fire her.

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>>47049571
They graduated, they weren't terminated. They are allowed to speak on the matter and defend themselves if they want to, they don't. Twitter trannies, or anyone else for that matter, aren't harassing them and doxxing them, oceancunt did it already.
Maybe next time when you spin this rrat like I know you will, try doing it without crying and maybe that will make it sound more convincing.

>> No.47050449

>>47050280
>Twitter trannies, or anyone else for that matter, aren't harassing them
>>47045451

>> No.47050643

>>47050449
Retard... Thats obviously a kawaii fan, not a twitter sister, just check the announcement quote tweets and drama channels comments, it's 100% support for gen 3 and shitting on kawaii and calling the former members liars.

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>>47050643
>or anyone else for that matter

>> No.47050900

>>47026713
Why do you think the money go i her bank directly?

>> No.47050968

>>47050900
she told me that when we had discord sex last night, next time you can watch (listen) if you ask nicely

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>>47050449
Oh no 2 whole entire anons on this Mongolian basket weaving forum said a mean thing about them that they will never ever see, in ONE whole thread. How will they possibly survive?!

>> No.47051090

>>47050797
>>47050970
yuko stop posting black guys, we know you love them but calm down

>> No.47051174

>>47047281
you are thinking of doxxeane, retard-kun

>> No.47051364

>>47026489
>Princess Maker 2
I hope she doesn't accidentally enter the command to unlock Mad Eddy's and then accidentally buy and equip the Un-Dress, haha.

>> No.47055663

>>47026489
too bad she threw the girls under the bus

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