/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

its fine soon nyanners will open the gates to vshoujo and then ironmouse and gura will become best friends and produce the greatest content known to man

>>4700428
this but unironically

>>4700387
How do we fix EN?

>>4700996
Graduate calli.

>>4700996
EN in CN V2 in the making.

>>4700996
Killing it

>>4700387
Man you guys really don't understand Calli do you? Here's how it works. Calli is a socially awkward wigger weeb with no self confidence and imposter syndrome. She's the kind of person who will awkwardly tell a joke and then laugh at her own joke to make sure that people know it's a joke. She might even throw in a meek, "Did you get it?" afterwards and then immediately silently berate herself. She hates awkward silences and will try to fill them. She seeks approval and confirmation but she's also dense as fuck so even if people are giving her approval and confirmation and praise, she wouldn't be able to tell and the few times she is able to tell, she doesn't believe them because of her low self esteem. And this is all how she is in her normal life.
As a Vtuber? An entertainer, a presenter with literally thousands of eyes on her? Ohh boy. She will also feel extra pressure to perform in a collab because it's not just her, it's her colleagues and she's worried about messing up in front of them and also for them and their fans, in addition to her own. So she will try too hard and then cringe and then there will be a lull while she silently tells herself that she is an idiot, and a moron, and stupid, and there will always be a lull because Gura is a non entity in collabs right now and Ame can't always carry everything. Eventually Calli will stop beating herself up long enough to realize "OH GOD NOTHING IS HAPPENING ALL THESE PEOPLE ARE WATCHING AND EXPECTING US TO ENTERTAIN THEM THEY GAVE US SO MUCH MONEY, I DON'T DESERVE THIS" and so she'll launch right into the fray again the only way she knows how, by talking energetically and also taking care to enunciate things and describe them for the ESL audience since she used to be an English Teacher. Occasionally she will become genuinely amused or tilted at something in game and that will slip through, but because she's a sperg, her genuine emotions will still be as awkward as her forced ones.
Then when the collab/stream ends, she will collapse on her bed silently weeping and thinking about all the things she could have done better. She'll think about her fellow rapper from whom she heard about the Hololive auditions and feel guilty for taking their shot, they wanted it so much more than she did, she just applied on a whim, and even though they told her it was okay, it's not REALLY okay, they are just saying that to be nice because they are a good person unlike me because I'm such a piece of shit for stealing my friend's dream and I deserve to die.
Then she drinks and cries herself to sleep.

>>4700996
By crashing this plane with no survivors

It should have been Ina, Gura, and Ame only

>>4701202
I wish this was true, but Mori doesn't have that level of self awareness. She just thinks "hey people give me money for doing shitty streams this is great" and sharts out terrible content because she can and gets paid while she tries to get in AOs pants on the side.

>>4700387
You don't get it muh gap moe

>>4700996
make Calli into something like a Azki 2.0
just have her focus entirely on music and never have her touch streaming again

>>4700387
>cancerous anituber who has shittalked Hololive publicly

unironically best anituber never shittalked anyone, good person. Normie content, everyone likes him except schizos who want to pretend their hobby is super niche thing for neckbeards.

>>4701305
>Reddit spacing
>Defending Gigguk
Go back nigger

>>4701305
It should be. Not gatekeeping video games was the biggest mistake of my life.

>>4701305
Except he talked in length about how much better Vshojo is compared to Hololive while not disclosing the fact that his fucking WIFE is a member.

>>4701338
go back to pol, you will never be japanese.

>>4701305
I don't like him cause he basically only took off after he started copying demo's formula and straight up even copying some of his jokes in the first couple of season previews. Felt really slimy to me.

>>4701384
context retard. Also everyone knows sydsnap is hime, she barely hides it herself.

>>4701409
>Spouting out random buzzpharases you learned during your 2 weeks here
You'll never get it because (You) are the reason we hate these faggots in the first place

>>4701305
Go back.

>>4701344
You have the charisma of a moldy shoelace. You couldn't gatekeep a fucking wet paper bag.

>>4701384
You're not wrong but he didn't talk at length about it. If I remember correctly, he basically just said "I find myself watching more vshoujo than hololive, y'know" and then the other dude took over and started talking about how there are a lot of different vtubers and how he watches some obscure nijisanji ones and talking about how they're more popular in Japan.

>>4701480
no because (you) are schizo, nobody should even try to understand schizos

>>4701479
You think his viewers (pic related) have any idea about roommates and shit?

>>4701538
Ogey schizo

>>4700387
She's just bad at it. I don't think she's a bad person.

>>4701566
that's just a kid that watches anime - like good portion of vtuber audience.

>>4701263
Trinity is the only true way.

>>4701637
And what do you think 80% of his fanbase are?

>>4700387
>cancerous anituber who has shittalked Hololive publicly
Even if you don't like him, you know that's not true. He's one of Hololive's biggest advocates and made multiple videos on how much he loves it

>>4701305
>everyone likes him except schizos
Why are you such a liar faggot?

>make up stupid bullshit
>expect a good thread

>>4700387
>Shittalked Hololive publicly
What? Where? Didn't he make a 25 minute video gushing over them at one point?

>>4701704
His friends don't like Hololive right? One of them likes vshoujo more because they collab with him all the time.

>>4701694
mainstream anime watcher audience which is in 20s by now. Gigguk has been youtuber for very long time.

Most vtubers play what? Zoomer shit like Apex, minecraft and nintendo kids games.

>>4701785
liking something more, or watching something more, doesnt mean you dislike the other. Why wouldnt he? Use your brain.

>>4701781
Where is the lie?

>>4701785
The anime man likes Hololive a lot and talked about how he'd watch Korone. The only one that didn't was Connor

>>4701792
His audience is middle school/high school at best. I should know since I was a middle schooler when I was a fan of his back in 2012-2013

>>4701783
He didn't, the faggot is making shit up. He even donates to Rushia ffs

>>4701869
That's info from the collab way back, hasn't their opinion changed more? Connor even came out with some clip saying hololive is too restrictive or some shit

>>4701856
Anything a gossipfag says is a lie

>>4701887
Thats hopelessly retarded logic. So people grew out of gigguk and now new younger audience watches him? And the thing you watch now means its for older guys?

Everyone anime fan i know watches gigguk and im 30s,

>>4700387
Suisei says hi, Mori, she's been waiting for more than 6 months

>>4700428
From what I have seen Ironmouse is cool as shit and Nyanners destroys Kiara and Mori. Good riddance to bad rubbage. Haachama is my one and only but I respect the fuck out of Suisei and Moona for their incredible singing abilities. Reine is always welcome for being so likeable. I also love Ina and Gura no matter what.

PS I am drunk

>>4702036
Ah you must be American

>>4702235
ok zhang , go watch some minecraft.

>>4700996
hiring people like pikamee and HSKW

>>4700387
Did she actually say that about collabing with ecelebs?
Could it be that her early popularity with songs gave her too much power?

If she graduates, you know where she's going and you know what she's going to do.

>>4701202
ogey

>>4704224
As long as she stays out of Hololive.

>>4700428
I remember when Nyanners subsisted off of /v/ donations. She must be in her 30s now.

>>4700996
Boot Mori, let Kiara be in charge of spinning up a HoloEU branch (seriously she's far more manager than streamer), Keep Trinity
And for God's sake, let the trinity get a paid trip to one of their 3 home states/areas and do a week long collab

>>4700996
Graduate two members.

>>4700387
>Bring your D game to all collabs with Hololive
Hey now her collabs with rikka are legitimately god tier

>>4704327
>Turn Kiara into a manager
I think there's merit to this idea.

>>4704451
I'll refrain from posting the entire thing.
>Can barely speak two words of Japanese during her Super Bunnyman stream with Rikka, forcing him to use English instead
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!

>>4701202
You know, that could've worked better if we were still in autumn last year and Mori was still new and her "aww poor widdle me is such a fuckup and doesn't deserve all your generous donations"-shtick was still being cute.

By now she doesn't even care to read her donations anymore, she treats large parts of her "Hololive job" as an odious chore at best, keeps repeating the same beginner mistakes that would've been ironed out by now by anyone who actually gave a shit, and has gotten lazy and entitled and being an e-celeb has gotten to her head that she cares more about hanging out with her other favorite ecelebs.

>>4704262
I don't think you want new VShojo member Domino Devil releasing multi-million view Hololive diss tracks.

>>4701305
I have nothing against the guy desu, I don't get why people care so much. The thing that's the most irritating about all of this is Calli's attitude

>>4701305
See, this is the kind of shit everybody worried about Mori bringing in, and it's only gonna get worse. Deadbraps are being reduced to unironically having to big up Googook and his garbage circles because their Cringe Reaper oshi continues bringing them into the fold and she can do no wrong so they're now good too. And it will not end here, and we will continue seeing defenses of people who you'd be hounded off the board for liking before, being normalized because Mori can't stop sucking their dicks so Deadbraps must suck them off also.

>>4701202
Why do I relate to this but applied to all of my relationships?
This shit is painful.

>>4700996
Corporate-sponsored murder of Calli to put the fear of god into Kiara

>>4701202
ogey

>>4704688
nah, you don't stay long in japan causing drama like that as a foreigner.

>>4701202
Keep telling yourself that.

>>4704688
Yes please get these normies the fuck out.

>>4705005
Gigguk and TT probably stress Mori out telling her that her fans are creeps and that she needs to take action against them by openly collabing with TT regularly.

>>4700996
I propose we trade Mori for Nannyers. It's not the ideal trade but at least we trade up for someone will treat other EN members better. We at least get a cringe hypocrite that does not suck at collabs with other holos and a non-delusional fanbase who is already use to being abused. There is no down side to this trade.

>>4705005
At this rate, it's only a matter of time until she(accidentally or on purpose) invites an actual snake over and said snake stirs some shit up in the community.

>>4706353
I unironically believe this rrat, at least that someone in her other RL circle keeps influencing her and got into her head that Hololive and Idol culture is sooo totally cringe my dawg, and that she should ~break out of that bubble~, be the cool independet rapper she totally is, and collab more with us, her new better e-celeb friends, instead...

This tracks with her regressing into her usual shitty antics again after Kiara left japan, who was the only one around her enforcing globohomo and idol culture, and now with her being gone Mori is alone again and getting influenced by the wrong people instead.

>>4704688
Career suicide on all fronts, yeah cheer for this deadbraps

>>4700996
holostar EN with chad energy, collabing with EN whores each week

>>4701263
Damn, that trinity alone would’ve been perfect

>>4701305
Go back to sucking his cock on Reddit faggot

>>4706637
Yeah I believe it too. Those guys have talked about the weird fanbase Vtubers have before If I remember correctly and they probably talk with Mori a lot and since she looks up to them (and their cocks) she is likely to be influenced by their words

>>4706353
I 100% believe this. They definitely get into her head about how it’s all the schizos fault and how she should just keep collabing with everyone outside of Holo

>>4700428
>>4700387
Reminder that none of this would've happened if NijiEN wasn't announced

>>4706637
They definitely fucking get to head about how cringe vtubing is and how she’s probably better off doing her own thing. Of course, deadbraps will lap up every drop of that shit

>>4706637
>>4706353
>>4705005

well you guys are definitely weird and cringe. No sane person thinks you are "their people", all vtubers want is your supachat.

>>4706637
This is definitely whats going on. The TT retards are trying to pit Mori against Hololive and she's too retarded and starstruck to see whats going on. She needs Kiara.

How can we prove Mori that vtuber fans aren't weird creeps? Maybw, let's freak the fuck out when she has fun doing a collab with anyone outside our carefully curated bubble?

>>4706982
Like half of the JP holos are mental cases that have two way parasocial relationships with their fans, and the other part were already rich and just want friends/popularity, you don't watch hololive

>>4700387
>>Bring your A game for a collab with a cancerous anituber who has shittalked Hololive publicly
wait who?

>>4701409
>go back to pol, you will never be japanese.
You could at least lurk more before you try to act like you use this site newfag

>>4706997
They are literally too tone deaf and have no self awareness about how they act.

>>4707228
Youre deluded and naive. Theyre idols and are very careful with what emotions they express and what they say, they wont speak badly even about the simps that they hate. Yes they hate you, deal with it.

>>4701305

>>4707339
OP is mixing anitubers
it was connor that dissed hololive after EN snubbed him, tried getting into holoID, then settled on vshojo

>>4706997
retard

>>4707370
>Theyre idols
No they're vtubers and previosly streamers, they chose streaming as a career and only a mental case would even think of that in japan while being a female. The ones who were streamers want an audience/popularity, the ones who were utaites want an audience/popularity, they might not pay attention to a singular fan but they like their fans as a whole

>>4701409
Lurk another 10 years before posting

>>4701409
Lurk more faggot

>>4700996
>he says while posting Coco, the ENGLISH NATIVE who started it all

>>4700387
Dont worry she's transferring to Vshojo soon, I bet she blackmailed Producer San into letting her and Kiara do those shitty normie collabs or else she might not renew the contract and just reincarnate in Vshojo where she can rather openly give hints to who she was before and they wouldn't be able to stop her because Vshojo have no standards.

timestamp on the bubble thing?

>>4707370
hey just because your oshi hates the ~hololive bubble~ and sees her vtuber fans as creepy weirdos only good for milking akas from, don't deflect and cope by assuming that every other Holo girl has a similarly shitty attitude also.

Typical deadbrap behavior, when confronted with unpleasant facts he reacts by rather trying to drag everybody else down with them.

>>4701301
but she want's to stream... just not with other Holos or Vtubers (at least the prominent ones).

>>4701533
He didn't say he actually watched more shojowhores, the whole message was pretty scuffed but I bet this little rant about how Holo doesn't let their idols collab with irl dudes came directly from fucking Calli

>>4700387
>>4700996
its too late, the first collab killed it for her and she has been phoning it from that point, its the tunnels fault and you know it.

>>4700996
Graduate Mori, promote Reine to fill her spot.

>>4706637
Well for one she's friends with fucking Gigguk shojo wife now go figure who's making her question decision of joining Hololive in the first place, Hime claims to be a robot dragon helicopter but she's actually a snake poisoning Calli and Holo EN as a whole fuck this bitch.

>>4704451
I actually feel bad for Rikka. Calling into her BD stream was nice.

>>4706994
it's that whore Sydsnap, we must bring back leafy to deal with her.

>>4709122
I don't know if I'd consider ID -> EN a promotion. If you're in it for the money or fame it's a value add, but otherwise it's just more responsibility and hate. Reine seems to just want to hang out and have fun.

>>4708068
they love normal fans dont try to control what they do and throw fits, they hate the noisy shitters like you that are schizos.

1k fellas
we did it!

>>4709466
Cover and Mori in shambles. Its all over. 31k likes and 1k dislikes? Unacceptable. She has been humbled and will change her ways because of this devastation.

>>4701785
connur might not even know what Vshojo is to be honest, he collabs with mousey all the time and forgot she's actually bedriden with sickness,

>>4701869
anime man is now more of a nijicuck now, probably the best informed out of this clique though and connur is ignorant to the point it comes of as rude at times despite all those chuuba collabs he knows the least and doesn't want to learn, fuck this leech.

>>4701985
He imoplied that Hololive wouldn't let Calli go on the TT today which is curious, although he doesn't give shit about Hololive or chuuba culture at all so I wouldn't expect him to know what his talking about even if they keep in touch with Calli to some extent.

>>4704688
It wouldn't be "multi-million" outside of Hololive bubble, Cover lift her high and might get her down if she's too much of a bitch.

>>4709342
She doesn't need the money iirc. Isn't she the heiress to a TV company and ID doxxers got swatted

>>4709804

Respirator moment was funny and I felt bad for them both.

>>4710302
Media empire in ID
Her family has politicians in their pocket.

>>4704224
she can't even banter with Coco, Rushia would beat Calli in a Rap battle.

>>4710419
Isn’t Coco the easiest to banter with?
She pretty much sets everything up for you and she fumbled that.

>>4702122
based, hope you have a nice time being drunk anon! Did you enjoy Ame's supa sunday tonight?

>>4704224
Good, she can stay on twitch with the rest of the ironic weeb cancer then maybe her mancrushes can finally acknowledge her dirty old ass

>>4706651
It would be more like some passive-aggressive line or two, she doesn't have the balls for anything more as a rapper she's a bit of a fraud, altough some people find it cute muh gap moe.

>>4704503
She does seem to love her manager very much

>>4701225
lol

>>4707370
obvious bait is obvious

>>4706353
>>4706637
finally a rrat I can believe in

I find it funny that deadbeats will constantly praise moris musical ability despite the fact that she literally contributes the least to her own music, it's like when people praise drake for a song 10 people wrote.

>>4710909
Please tell me she actually fucking wrote OWTH. I think I hate her enough already.

>>4709763
she never had this many, noone in Holo EN did it's a new precedent when you can tell part of her audience is legit pissed and it's not just the schizos.

>>4710909

>I find it funny when actors get praise for scripts other people wrote

>>4711107
Yeah she did with her persona begging stream.

>>4700387
Added you to the list of haters. BLOCKED

>>4711137
That capped at 800. The VOD is deleted and she naked dogeza'd after the stream btw.

>>4701202
stop it with the copypasta faggot

>>4711107
She was brigaded by schizos from boards like this by people who dont even watch her. Its a fact that most people who watch neither like nor dislike videos, and still youre minority. Deal with it.

>>4711107
Let them seethe. Theyve been brought back to reality that she collabs with men, and there's nothing they can do about it. And I have to say, if a 31:1 is as bad as its gonna get, she won't ever change. Thats a sweet deal.

>>4711228
No it was taken down because the backward persona music. The only thing she felt bad for was her retarded fans acting like asshats on twitter.

>>4700387
TakaMori, more like KusoTori

>>4711250

Yup, even if i dont like how calli is lazy with her stream content and dont commit. Im 100% in favour of collabs like this, unicorn fags should not win and collabs shouldnt be cancelled over schizos. This is good stuff that most people want.

Except ofcourse collab with Veibae, no collabs for the whore.

>>4700387
mori is a based-ass little bitch for this one

>>4711137
didn't that have like 250K live at one point? Not comperable with a regular collab at all.

>>4711108
Not the same retard

>>4711238
Bullshit /vt/ shits on Kiara all the time and it never translated into dislike bombing, even after that Veibae/Nyanner announcement that we hate more than TT dudes (hypocrite loli in particular) it haver to be something more like people being tired of her excuses and subpar streams.

>>4711754
because they dont hate kiara enough. This is all ppl who simped for her and feel cucked and want to control their woman +ppl who are scared of westerners entering their bubble.

>>4711879
Or it's because Calli is a fucking fraud who doesn't know shit about hololive and doesn't give a shit about hololive outside of her genmates on a surface level.

>>4712007
>doesn't give a shit about hololive outside of her genmates on a surface level.
that's still a little too much credit. just doesn't give a shit about her genmates is fine enough.

>>4711879
Nah it had more to do with Calli fucking up at every collab with other Holos and poor quality of her streams in general that rubbed people the wrong way.

>>4711879
>ppl who are scared of westerners entering their bubble.
That's retarded as fuck. You gotta be brainless if you think this hasn't happened even since before EN happened.

>>4700996
Unironically graduate Mori and Kiara and EN would be perfect.

>>4701202
>Here's how it works
>Lists how Calli is a subhuman 75IQ retard that everyone should hate
You're kinda retarded

>>4713389
gatekeeping is gatekeeping. Rrats here about how connor wants to fuck Ollie or whatever is pretty widespread.

>>4701263
I personally think Kiara has listened to criticism and has improved alot.

>>4711213
>son of sparda
>donte

>>4701305
I also like him. It's not about him, it's about Calli being boring with other collabs but not with him.

>>4701344
This but applied to everything in life

>>4713586
thats why i dont watch her and the games she plays arent interesting for me, also i dont like rap.

>>4701409
>>4701305

found the libtard

>>4701753
>>everyone likes him except schizos
>Why are you such a liar faggot?

because he is a libtard

>>4709445
No one deserves fans. The JP girls understand that having any kind of fans, period, is a privlage to NOT take for granted. Entitled ENwhores on the other hand? Don't make me laugh.

>>4713832
The early gens worked for those fans. Streaming in front of a hundred people a day was a goal for them back in the days.

>>4713781
>libtard
What the fuck is that? Go back.

>>4713832
I'm sure pekora understands that.

>>4700996
Mass graduation.

>>4713832
They can and do tell fans to fuck off, at least the ones that aren't huge numberfags (like Pegola), autists (like Aqua), or extreme doormat (like Marine).

guys I know how to fix this mess, we just have to kill calli and shitgook

>>4713740
there was no fraud. cope. Mori isnt a virgin and regularly porks gaijins in Japan.

>>4706982
you sound like you take dicks up the ass

>>4714288
Hello agent, I thought you guys are paid to post only on /pol/

>>4711213
Do greys fucking really? If I was there from the start and giving someone my money for MONTHS while your ass never gave shit I'd think my opinion would matter only just a "little" bit more that this fucker.

>>4706637
This is critical mass delusion

>>4706637
what the fuck... Kiara is what holoEN needs the most right now, to get calli back in line

>>4709122
As much as I think Reine deserves more views/fame, I think she's going to be happier in ID. She doesn't need the cash and has said numerous times she's just in this to have fun and chat. She is really in a good spot to keep this as a fun hobby without turning herself into a self-destructing menhara, and it's probably best to keep it that way.

>>4700387

quick rundown why she made the recent phasomphobia stream unlisted/locked comments?

>>4713832
Look at like-dislike ratio
https://youtu.be/q-Vy6T7BfAU

Difference's FBK's doing it intentionally to filter schizos while Calli accidentally wandered to it cluelessly because she's a genuine retard.

>>4714752
because mori is a whore

34,000 people showed up to watch Gura enjoy boomer game
Mori gonna lose more and more with each collab stream

>>4714730
Holy shit. Homglobo-chan... forgive me.

>>4714730
okay sure interesting point and all but what the fuck did you do with gura's nose

watch as calli double down on this like the typical degenerate westoid female that she is and insult her fan on stream which will lead to face reveal while sucking on gigguk balls

>>4714909
that's flat face ear float rhombus gura

>>4714909
Fucking hell

>>4714909
Leave and never return.

>>4700428
Oh boy, I can't wait for all the sex/penis/period jokes

>>4701263
>>4704327
>>4701301
The trinity's chemistry is far better than the 5 of them anyway. Kiara can stream and still be a manager, so she wouldn't breakdown. Mori can just move to twitch and be whatever the fuck she wants to be; hell, she can join vshoujo too and fuck off.

>>4714730
why does Mori get a full open mouth, but Kiara has a drawn in mouth?

>>4700996
Put Ina into gen 5 and axe EN

>>4700387
Come on, Anon! Just gotta let Calliope "Ya "N5gger of Nippon" Boi" Mori build up her confidence and enthusiasm that she seems to lose every month! Once she time loops for the Nth time there will be no stopping on the quality express for her streams. That is, until next time!

>>4706353
>Gigguk and TT probably stress Mori out telling her that her fans are creeps

the irony is reddit tier streamers are the ones with creepy and pervy libtard fans. Gross

>>4706535
There is no downside to you killing yourself

>>4701263
Gura has become shit and ame is just ok

>>4715317
>Takos believe this

How many fucking threads are there going to be about this shit until you retards get bored?

>>4715262
>creepy
>gross
fucking diseased rotting cunt whore go back to instagram I'll use your face as a chopping board

>>4711238
sounds like the libtard is out of touch with reality. How typical

holy fuck, mori shows up on stream to wish a random fuck vtuber a happy birthday
has she even acknowledged watame's birthday?

>>4715636
she only acknowledge fellow satan's worshippers

>>4711250
actually there is something they can do. Drop support. Then she gets dumped by Hololive. She tries to go solo but fails with out the marketing by Hololive and the fan base. She isn't charming. She sounds like a man. And there are a million wannabe rappers. She would be a total failure as a soloer

>>4704451
First one was good, second one wasn't

>>4715636
Why would she? Mori hates Hololive and everyone in it

>>4713977
why are you upset about who you are, libtard boi. Show some self love

>>4715636
>Ame has seen a reality where MilkyQueen took the role of Calliope Mori and current Mori got booted back to the States and remained nobody

>>4715636
Melody disliked that.

>>4700387

It honestly looks like Gigguk is trying to headhunt her but she and her manager are too retarded to realize.

>>4715317
Maybe a rrat but I feel like Gura’s lost interest in holo. Ame and Tako are still good though

>>4715636
>>4715698
Reminder that if you're a fan of Mori you should hate Hololive just like her.

>>4709445
easy there libtard. Sounds like you have sand in your vagina and your projecting your hateful world view onto others. Other people are tolerant and accepting of others. They don't use hate filled slurs and the believe love trumps hate

>>4715972
>Hime disliked this, but she is so pathetically low on the Vshojo totem pole she has to endure it

>>4715990
Pressure of success

>>4715356
no we don't, gura is still good

>>4715990
Nah, she's lost interest in the monotony of Gen 1 and probably seeing Mori rip down the doors she was so comfortable keeping closed is making her worry, if only a bit
The storm of begging and guilt tripping for collabs is coming for her, she could barely handle 1 rando DM'ing her on Discord, imagine TT or YFUBABY being on Mori's group call spam messaging her to join them

>>4714388

no one listens to have you have to say about sex libtard when you look like pic related.

>>4715271
t. deadbraps proving everyone's suspicions right since 2020 the year of the rrat.

>>4700387
Somehow someone will say it's Kiara's fault for leaving Japan and letting Mori be like that

>>4716102
Speak for yourself, ika.

>>4715636
>>4716157

>>4716201
Mori is a big girl, and last we checked she was already trying to keep Kiara in the dark over her roommate life
Plus what is she supposed to do, babysit an overgrown high school kid forever?

>>4715554
>>creepy
>>gross

yes those are adjectives for libtards

don't watch Mori
don't watch EN
Gigguk is a faggot
Simple as

This shit sucks despite everything I still really like Mori yes she could and should have put more effort into her other hololive collabs even of shes socially retarded and may not be interested in whatever game there playing but at the same time the idea she doesn't care about Hololive because she originally applied not thinking she had a chance is disingenuous or that shes only in it for fame require massive assumptions and dont make sense when you watch the world of darkness character creation stream she clearly cares

>>4716466
Who knows anon. She could have ironic weeb expat snakes whispering in her ear, the WoD stream could be trying to make amends. Who knows if its childish malice or well meaning autism.

>>4700387
ENMA WAS RIGHT

>>4701409
Lurk another millenium faggot. Out of board you choose /pol/ for no fucking reason. What a nigger

>>4716466
She has 3 Hololive Collabs this week, I guess this is the final chance for any lingering deadbeat fans to see if she can do good in those collabs

Was the collab with Gigguk even approved by Cover? If not, then hopefully Cover graduates her.
A grown ass woman acting like a retarded teenager in her rebellious phase is just fucking disgusting.

>>4716702
One of them is a one on one with Kiara so you can write that off.
She's especially autistic when it comes to Kiara since she tries to force a tsundere persona.

>>4701263
Yes

>>4716582
maybe cuz ur racist.

>>4716756
>Waycism
Filthy tourist

>>4716756
Youre a nigger retard and you should kill yourself in front of whatever family you have

>>4716756

>>4716725
If Cover had problems with the collab at the time they would have had her take it down like the Phasmo collab. But the fallout may have them reconsider approving outside collabs because management was always against them so they might be looking for an excuse.

Also I'd say well her collab streams are lacking her solo streams just talking are great

>>4716756
Your mother will be raped by nigger gorillas you retard faggot

>>4716756
kill yourself

every EN are liberals that wouldve voted Biden, sorry you had delusions its otherwise.

>>4713533
Dmc fanbase are based?

so she's pretty based

>>4700387
Can you fuckers just be patient, didn't she say she was gonna try to improve after the Gura collab? Well she's trying, now let's see if she continues.

>>4717057
>nigga i eat that pussy like a bacon egg sandwich

>>4715162
Found a clip watcher

>>4717124
>didn't she say she was gonna try to improve after the Gura collab?
She says a lot of things, deadbrap. And it's been nearly a year. Wake up.

>>4715972

>>4717171
checked and based

>>4717124
>Shows up to a literal who on Twitch for his/her/it's birthday
>Skips Watame's
Yea nah, she's already stretching her legs outside the hololive preserve

>>4717124
>black emoji
big kusa

>>4717171
Like what the only thing people have been bitching about that actually means anything is her being socially retarded in collabs

Why did Yagoo choose these socially awkward fucks? NijiEN and other smaller agencies don't have this problem

>>4717333
Strange that she suddenly stops being autistic when collabing with an eceleb who's dick she wants to suck

>>4717380
Are you only now questioning Yagoo's savior complex?

>>4717380
Mori is far more successful in her music career than any single vtuber in JP or EN, that's a problem any agency world like to have.

>>4700996
We start by taking away Mori's crack rocks.

>>4717333
There's a difference between being retarded and not trying. She really hasn't been trying to make it work with her HL colleagues recently but still insists on collabing with her RL friends.

>>4717124
>that emoji
you will never be of African descent, Calliope Mori

>>4717541
But she's a nigger though...

>>4717558
more like n5gger

>>4717541
her kid will be though

>>4713517
Kiara did develop as a pro streamer and she's the only capable live-translator in Hololive, I don't like that she get's close to the most fake Western bitch chuubas out there though.

>>4715989
She knows what she is doing when it's something that interests her.

Why does Kiara always get brought up in these types of threads? Does she live that rentfree?

>>4700996
Swap Reine and Moona with Kiara and Mori.

>>4717816
But Gigguk isn't black tho

>>4717407
She has no reason to suck up shes has a million fucking subs plus afraid to say it but maybe she just wasnt intrested in most of the collab streams

>>4718083
She's literally an idol. You know what happens to idols that let their groupmates down, right?

>>4718060
silly of you to think gigacuk is the only male she talks to

>>4718228
Maybe deadbraps let Mori talk to other men but gigguk wouldn't.

The absolute chad

>>4718205
Bullshit hololive are as much idols my ass and the you think Cover had traditional idol shit in mind when they made and EN branch? You know an audience that doesn't care about idol culture bullshit

>>4700996
make official h-doujinshi

>>4718517
[message deleted] imminent

>>4718622
Yes. It's an idol corporation. If you're a shitty idol you won't last. Educate yourself.

>>4702036
Every anime fan I know fucking despise those faggots

>>4718370
gigguk is engaged to arguably the biggest slut in all of Hololive. he has 0 say in what his female does

>>4717938
Yes.

>>4718517
holy based

>>4718228
Connor isn't black either

>>4718517
Holy fucking based

>>4718689
An idol corporation In the most vague loose fucking terms posible

>>4718517
stolen creditcard or something, boring useless comment. Lmao. inb4 chargeback.

>>4718722
you dont know anyone.

>>4718818
It's a company that employs idols. Not very vague. Consider reading a book.

>>4718517
Based and akasupapilled.

>>4718818
Konosuba may be an isekai parody but it's still an isekai.

>>4718517
>"I'm masking my incel hatred for you collabing with an IRL MALE with snarky criticism"
>"Here's $100"

She's take your critiques all the way to the bank.

>>4700387
Isn't she just nervous about the language barrier?

She collabs fine with her genmates, she just flounders with hololiveJP

>>4718962
Do you actually know anything about idol culture? Like at all ? It's all girls being pure shit hyper professionalism romanticized crap how on earth is hololive anything like that?

>>4719048
Never correct your whales when they are making a mistake.

>>4719049
>She collabs fine with her genmates
The two hour silence SV with Kiara begged to differ

>>4719091
It sounds like you’re the one who doesn’t understand what an idol is, anon.

>>4719049
>She collabs fine with her genmates
he doesn't know

Imagine having the privilege of joining Hololive and then having the audacity to question this boon just because some gross filipino and his whore wife get into your head
Imagine all of the rejected applications, imagine what we could have gotten instead
She should be in the music division like Azki at least, not taking up a spot she doesn't even appreciate

>>4718938
No, he's right. Actual anime fans see these worthless e-celebs as cancer polluting anime and pulling in people who don't have anything to do with the culture, and then they barge in and demand that anime should be like their chimpanzee American shows.

I HATE every single turd who "reviews" anime of youtube because they all, without exception, complain about staples of anime, be it fanservice or loli or whatever doesn't fit their poisoned liberal mindset.

This Gigguk fag is just another turdlet in a long line of turdlets that should fuck off back to their capeshit and star wars and whatever other garbage is best suited for him.

>>4719243
I know what an idol is and that's why I can say hololive isn't an a real idol organization it doesn't work by the same ŕules

Guys, I feel really bad for Calli's former friend that tried to get into Hololive but Calli applied in secret after her and stole the spot.

>>4719049
>She collabs fine with her genmmates
Lol have you not seen her collabs? She’s low energy and totally uninterested most of the time. Kiara is basically poking her to stay the fuck awake. She needs to get her head in the game instead of begging to collab with her e-celeb friends.

>>4719386
You can say whatever you want - it doesn’t make it true.

>>4719387
Same
She squandered it
What could have been...

>>4717520
I don't watch HL to see them collab with IRL youtubers and Twitch streamers. I don't think she should be paid to interact with her friend group just because she feels comfortable doing that instead of collabing with coworkers.

>>4718726
You mean Vshojo.

>>4719555
yea sorry, meant Vshojo

>>4719381
>Actual anime fans

stfu, mainstream anime community are actual anime fans and the majority. Shitters on 4chan are the minority, neckbeard weebs literally dont matter.

Next youll say "actual anime fans" dont watch dubs.

For comparison in difference of quality - while I'm typing this Gura is in her 4th hour of streaming and she has consistently had 30k+ people watching her this whole time. No bullshit, just Gura doing her thing without pretensions and retarded e-celeb "guests" or collabs from the outside or bitching about Hololive. And before that Ame pulled a 9 hour charity stream.

Do you understand just how vast a gulf between people like that and Calli is? How can you not see how ungrateful, disinterested and separate from the reason we are here and watching she is? Anyone who defends her is straight up not a fan of vtubing.

>>4719705
Here anon have a reply for the effort

>>4719381
Garnt has been on YouTube giving shitty opinions on anime for more than 10 years now (since 2008).

>>4719705
Poor trolling attempt.

>Next youll say "actual anime fans" dont watch dubs.
Yes, that's actually true. If you watch dubs you aren't really watching anime.

>>4719705
I hope this is baiting. If not Godspeed anon you must experience great difficulty in simple tasks.

>>4719381
>every single turd

like who? Gigguk doesnt review anime, you dont even know what youre talking about. He was talking about anime before you discovered naruto faggot.

Both the animeman and gigguk have watched far more anime than youll ever will, nor do they complain about lolis. But they are far more fit to shit on dumb tropes or cliches. Animeman loves lolis. Shut the fuck up, you are embarrassing yourself rat.

>>4719049
1.) she lives in japan and somehow speaks worse jap than ina, so I don't give her a pass on that anyways
2.) her genmate collabs have also been bad and especially with kiara

>>4719705
It's why US anime sales are well below smaller European countries, definitely.

>>4719776
Indies don't have this problem.

Whichever one of you faggots did this, good job

>>4701202
ogey

>>4719886
imagine riding an e-celebs dick *this* hard

>>4719886
This is what happens when underages are allowed to post on this website

>>4719886
>He was talking about anime before you discovered naruto
I'm old enough to be your father.

>>4719381
Gigguk is smart enough to not shit on anything unironically. He often makes fun of Eromanga Sensei despite admitting the show was a guilty pleasure in spite of it's shallow storyline.

>>4719998
Holy fucking based

>>4720059
Because he doesn’t shit on anything period because his viewerbase are a bunch of babies like you. Same with the rest of them.

>>4720008
He right though. It's normalfag groomer Connor that gets his panties in a twist over loli stuff.

>>4720059
That's more or less what i personally find annoying about anime youtubers
This retarded layer or irony because god forbid you look like you actually like anime
"Y-yeah it's a guilty pleasure haha who'd actually unironically like this! Haha woOooOoOoo what are these anime boobs in anime haha japanese are so wacky"

>>4720059
I don't care if he's "smart" or not and if he's "ironic" or not. His entire breed is poison. Youtube anime reviewers shouldn't exist.

>>4702122
Based

>>4704547
Dont be lazy, post the whole shit

>>4719948
they arent.

>>4717816
She's only into manlet asains

>>4704327
>let Kiara be in charge of spinning up a HoloEU branch
God, just imagine.
>Kiara becomes HoloEU daisenpai
>Most members look up to her
>Not being compared to the rest of EN ends her inferiority complex regarding sub counts
>She uses her "rebirth" shtick to change her main design
>While she's at it she changes her voice to reflect her new position instead of being a punching bag cartoon
>We get pic related as a Holo
>People at least can reasonably plan off-collabs
>As a bonus Ina is put in management position of the new HoloNA since she's pretty close to ENMA
>As a result of their decreased scope HoloEU and HoloNA get chiller similar to what HoloID is like
Fucking God, please graduate Mori.

>>4719048
This, he should have made the point with an ARS fake aka.

>>4720828
>Having anyone near Merry becoming a Holo
No. I'm tired of my skeb feed being filled with that faggot's requests because the website won't let me unfollow him. I definitely don't want whatever whore he is friends with to be in Hololive either.

>>4718517
Based leaf

Maybe she's not the cringe turbo autist we all thought she was and she just gets along better with dudes than other girls. Some chicks are just like that.

>>4721091
thats a red flag

>>4721091
>join what is essentially an all girl organization
>have trouble getting along with other girls

>>4721091
If that’s how her roommate is than fine. But you can’t go doing shitty, low energy, low effort, and disorganized collabs with your genmates while begging to do collabs with your friends.

>>4721204
She saw the Holostars but didn't understand the dynamic. She really had no idea what she was signing up for. She also thought she could collab with Critikal with no problem.

>>4720985
Whatever floats your boat, man. I just saw her singing after Kiara at the con and I masturbated to the stream there and then.

>>4721204
That's why we like Calli
She does only the minimum to not get fired and acts like a real human being as much as possible

>>4721091
>she just gets along better with dudes than other girls
Anon, that's... I... you.... God fucking damn it, you poor dumb son of a bitch...

>>4720059
ecelebs, anime shitubers and game jounos need to die all same shitters, stay steady at your cocksucking hobby

>>4720828
NEVER trust a Fin anon.

>>4721091
we already know some chicks are whores

>>4719048
>anyone who criticizes my oshi is an incel purityfag
Do deadbraps really

>>4700387
I don't fucking care what she does OUTSIDE of the "bubble" but why the fuck is she so entitled to do it while being Calliope Mori?
Oh, I think I know why, the other celebs wouldn't give her the time of day if it she wasn't in Hololive, and she's letting them manipulate her, how naive.
on top of that, I'm 100% sure that every other vtuber talks bad on her back, EVERYONE outside hololive hates hololive unless it's time for a collab
all of this will be worthless though, once she's no longer Calliope Mori, they will forget about her, even her "closest friends", this is her fate

>>4716756
copebeat from twitter

>>4715636
>Watame? the character Watoson is playing on my TTRPG?
>the sheep? I made a song for her?
>oooh, I think I remember, can you give me the twitter?
>one last question, she's a senpai right?

>>4719048
>calling incel
>on the idol company
I know what's next of this one
>touch some grass
or sum like that

>>4719705
found the MHA fan

>>4700996
Just get rid of Kiara, rest is fine.

>>4700387
I'm confused, after seeing the people defend her on twitter, I don't really know why are they here watching Hololive when there's 100 other hobbies out there that would suit them better, they call you
>incels
>get a girlfriend
>touch some grass
nigger, this is the ultimate cope for IRL stuff, what the fuck are you doing here? this hobby is NOT for you
>want 3D ecelebs
go fucking watch them
WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU HERE
>it's the "hype"
just click on whatever is the first recommended video on twitch
>I wan't more western styled vtubers
then go fucking watch vshoujos or something like that
WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE
WHAT ARE YOU DOING WATCHING HOLOLIVE
I DON'T UNDERSTAND

>>4725475
First time?