/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

hopefully, then she might actually realize she fucked up

>>4692752
Imma like the video just to be contrarian to you guys about how stupid I think this is. Also saged.

I miss the chinks

>>4692935
Ogey deadbrap

that stream was what i wanted to be where gigguk actually gave calli helpful advice on a game she likes to play, it's not even like they flirted at all
worst thing was gigguk thanking big donos with the mic on though

>>4693007
I missed Artia... this is the time when we needed her the most

>>4692752

Hopefully, so nothing changes and you dramafags seethe.

You don't even watch Calli, your dislike means nothing

>>4692752
Do you even watch Calli? Gigguk has a gf, and he's open about it.

>>4693422
No one cares, the problem is he's a fucking anituber, mori has collabed with males before

>>4692752
you schitzos are next level. you do know Gigguks gf is a fucking youtuber right? she's awful, but this isn't a fucking secret you fucking retard.

and not only are you butthurt that Calli collabed with an unavailable male, you're pissed off she wasn't a passive blob in the collab, like she has been in other recent collabs, which you fucking roasted her for. make up your fucking mind schitzo.

sidenote, both of them are in Japan (seperated by a few hundred miles); it's a lot easier for a high quality collab to happen when they're in japan, the lag for a collab around the world is insane, shitting on her for bad internet is next level schitzo bullshit when that happens. and then shitting on her for this one because there was no network problems is just...

I don't have words for how fucking insane some of the losers on this board are.

>>4693559
>>4693482

>>4692752
is this her most disliked video?

>>4693591
you wish that first post was mine. I don't have the time to waste on your schitzo ass.

Anyone else think she is purposefully trying to piss off people here after we've laughed at her hard for the past two collabs and break? I bet she is dying laughing at you retards right now.

>>4693422
Nobody fucking cares. The fact that she finally puts in effort when collabing with a fucking anituber e-celeb cancer faggot after ruining collabs with her hololive colleagues time and time again pisses me off.
I wish she'd graduate or never collab with her colleagues ever again.

>>4692752
>played Laura without evo effect this late in the game
this glue-sniffing wigger holy shit

>>4693664
Sure, and I hope she won't have a meltdown again.

>>4693676
>Nobody fucking cares
that's true. you're irrelevant

>>4692935
SEETHE dead*rap

>>4692935
>glances at rules
>”announcing a sage bad”

>>4692752
It officially doesn't matter

https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1401611088093798401?s=19

>>4693422
We should get someone from /fit/ to fuck Gigguk’s girlfriend.

>>4693717
Watch her have a meltdown again on her membership stream and take another fucking break.

>Will the video make it to 1000 dislikes?

>>4692752
Please don't dislike the video, if KMR sees any disapproval he might misunderstand and decide to shut the game down. Rowen wants to live.

>>4692752
we can hope comrade

>>4693803
but it's /vt/ who's having multiple meltdowns every day

>>4692752
Taiwanese here, explain what's bad about this collab and you might have our support.

>>4692935
>announcing breaking the rules
Good job at being a contrarian, newfag

>>4693422
That's not the problem.

Her being 10x more energetic than during Hololive collabs and actually having fun instead of making the same 5 bored comments over and over again is the problem.

>>4693559
Thanks for the pasta anon

>Taiwanese here, explain what's bad about this collab and you might have our support.

>>4693676
I don’t care if she graduates or not but you’re absolutely right in the stark difference of effort she puts in between fucking Gigguk and other holo members, it’s sad

>>4694056
Mori is lethargic, bored and underprepared when collabing with her genmates and yet is excited, genki, and well prepared when collabing with anituber e-celebs. This gives the impression that she does not care about Hololive and is using it as a way to get money and exposure.

>>4694056
Schizo antis have set up a thread to reeee at mori, she did nothing wrong

>Mori is lethargic, bored and underprepared when collabing with her genmates and yet is excited, genki, and well prepared when collabing with anituber e-celebs. This gives the impression that she does not care about Hololive and is using it as a way to get money and exposure.

>>4694173
This is the first time she improved no ? Give her a chance, unless she back to her bored uninterested self in the next collab with hololive there's no need to get so worked up.
Saved this as the proof that she CAN do well in collab and compare it to her next one.

>>4694066
Wouldn't her just be collabing outside holos be great?
Think anon, she will be energetic and wont do anymore awkward streams with other holos and other holos wont need to deal with her awkwardness, deadbeats will pretty much be satisfied and wont bother other people for her having an awkward collab with other holos, same goes for Kiara and KFPs, isn't this what you anons want?

>>4693676
>I hope she graduates
Kill yourself

>deadbraps are /qa/ basedjackposters
Can't make this up

>>4694279
8 months of being a chain and boulder on every single collab she's in and coincidentally it's the one time she collabs with someone outside Hololive that she magically improves out of nowhere seems a little bit weird.
I genuinely hope she does bring these improvements forward though.

>>4694066
Her TTRPG was great. The scuffed cuphead collab was a bit annoying, but Gura made it work, and Calli got shit on for not preparing properly, so she's preparing properly now, and the deadbeats seem okay with this collab.

>>deadbraps are /qa/ basedjackposters
>Can't make this up

>>4694400
Clearly she doesn't give two shits about V-tubing if the only time she cares enough to put on a show is with a non-vtuber. She's obviously gonna drop this shit in time, might as well not waste people's time

>>4693422
>>4693559
Mori is friend with Vshojo whores she already doesn't give a fuck about cheating or cucking someone lmao

the absolute fucking state of /vt/

>>4692752
Nope. Nobody outside this site and containment breakers cares.

>Mori is friend with Vshojo whores she already doesn't give a fuck about cheating or cucking someone lmao

>>4694400
Mori hopes for this too. It's just a job faggot.

>>4692752
>cuckbeats were the /qa/ faggots shitting up every thread and anti'ing every other holo all along
How the fuck didn't I realize this earlier.

>>4694056
see >>4689527
it's one thing to say she improved and actually prepared for a collab. nothing inherently wrong with it
most people have a problem when she doesn't do this for 9 months and suddenly does with some cancerous e-celeb

>>cuckbeats were the /qa/ faggots shitting up every thread and anti'ing every other holo all along
>How the fuck didn't I realize this earlier.

as an indiefag that doesn't give a shit about hololive in general I am desperately trying to understand what the problem people have with this is. from what I gather, everyone was giving callie shit for not taking collabs seriously. so she does take one seriously, and now they're mad because it isn't a collab with another member of hololive.
is this just pure tribalism? that's all I can really gather here. It's pretty retarded if you ask me.

>>4694602
Most of that sound hilarious lol. Maybe she decided to straighten up after the mess with Coco and Gura. I'll save the info though, thank you.
Give her one chance. If she really don't care about Hololive then it can be used. Spamming dislike now won't help much, better to make a compilation and post it on youtube, either her improving as collab partner, or her clearly lack of interest in collabing with "friend" in Hololive.

>>4694925
People are finally realizing Mori is the worst EN and this is how "well" they're taking it. It also has to do with who she did the collab with. Anitubers are generally looked down upon on /vt/ (for good reason) so it's like a 2 for 1.
Not only is she lazy/doesn't care about hololive, but she's bringing in the kind of fags that make a career off being ironic weebs

>People are finally realizing Mori is the worst EN and this is how "well" they're taking it. It also has to do with who she did the collab with. Anitubers are generally looked down upon on /vt/ (for good reason) so it's like a 2 for 1.
>Not only is she lazy/doesn't care about hololive, but she's bringing in the kind of fags that make a career off being ironic weebs

>>4695190

5 more dislikes to 800 dislikes, we can do it Reddit!

>>4694400
You just said "kill yourself" to another human being, do you even realize what you have done, nigger? Soon the fire will consume you.

>>4693130
Artia was sucking moonmoon and other twitchfags dicks before this, you dirty zhang apologist

>>4695395
Wouldn't reddit be against disliking the video?
Get your stereotypes straight

Not gonna lie, this is definitely one of those times where the zhangs would actually be useful

>>4695485
Were the zhangs right this whole time?

>Not gonna lie, this is definitely one of those times where the zhangs would actually be useful

>>4695446
I just wanted to say something like "we did it Reddit".

>>4692752
That's nothing compared to what Coco got in the past.

800 ROAD TO 900 AND SOON 1000

>>4693007
I hope some are dumpsterdiving this place for screencaps. Chinks/Chinese people, if you're reading this, we need your support again.

>>4695519
at least you understand what you've become

>>4695516
that's the tragedy with zhangs, outside of the bugman behavior they can be incredibly based, but they're bugmen first and foremost

Begging for Zhang's to help you just because you can't even get 1000 dislikes on a video. This place is pathetic. Actually kneeling to bugs.

>>4695669
>>4695666
What's worse, being a bugman or being a deadbitch? Both are equally as shameful

>>4695709
A KFBeat

>>4695623
Hope your skull gets crushed by a Nigerian cock

Is it true all Deadbeats have an NTR fetish?

>>4695709
Don't be either then? You can just go create more youtube accounts to dislike that video. Groveling to the zhangs and asking them to help you is pathetic.

>>4695669
Just assume the people asking zhangs to help are zhangs raiding this place like they always do. Never seen a board actively asking zhangs to help them anywhere.

>>4695669
half of /vt/ are dramawhores who dont even watch streams. /vt/ is their entertainment. this is why this board turns to shit every time something even mildly "controversial" happens

>>4695778
Unfortunately for Americans, China's gargantuan investments in Nigeria (and the rest of Africa) will mean black cocks will get smaller and smaller as Nigerian women marry the most desperate of Chinese incels for a better life.
Freedom is dead.

>>4692752
>1k dislikes against 30k likes
look anon, I don't like it either, but it is time to give up on this one and spend your time gatekeeping the higher threats now

>>4695941
Isn't stuff like this how the higher threats are created in the first place?

>>4695891
Begging zhangs is some next level embarrassment in the board. Actually the whole site in general.

how will the antis react when at least half of those obvious botted dislikes get deleted?

>>4696043
What makes a dislike 'botted"?

>>4695415
Pffft

So is this the moriHATE general?

>>4696156
Apparently this is the chinkbeggar general.

>>4692752
I have not even watched the stream nor plan to and I don't have strong opinions about about Calli, but the deadbraps are truly pathetic defending their queen
>Everyone who doesn't like it is an idolfag/virgin/incel
>If you don't like anitubers, you are childish
>Leaving criticism? You are like the zhangs
Kek, they even made a "block list" on YT and they are circlejerking among themselves, they really believe they're better than /vt/ schizos, they're the true idolfags believing their oshi can do no wrong. Again, I don't hate Calli and I can't give my opinion about the situation, but people really be warring on YouTube lol

>>4696206
It's like one guy ITT doing that. Why does it make you so mad?

>>4696232
Don't forget endless "touch grass" quips

I did my part, anon. Did you?

>>4694066
did you miss the fact you're watching weebs, anion?

>>4696312

>>4695521
you know a great place for that kinda shit is?

>>4695941
We're past gate keeping. There's several holos with over a million subs

>>4696449
Tumblr?

>>4694925
no its idolfaggotry 101

Im doing my part

>>4695843
Most of them don't care but /vt/ deadbeats either dropped her or has an NTR fetish

Horseshoe theory proved right yet again

>>4694925
Gigguk is a cancer and people can't understand how Mori can be so motivated to collab with someone like him

>>4696629
It's not like she's super interested in gigguk but rather the fact that she just doesn't like interacting with vtubers that much

>Gigguk is a cancer and people can't understand how Mori can be so motivated to collab with someone like him

>>4696675
Gem detected

Do people here actually like trash taste or is it some kind of weird larp?

go back

>>4696541
ok boys we did it, animetubers are no more.

>>Gigguk is a cancer and people can't understand how Mori can be so motivated to collab with someone like him

>>4696733
fuck off racist, immigrants are welcome.

>>4696629
same reason why Gura is probably going to collab with Bahroo, bitches be dumb and don't recognize leachers.
>Mori also realizes that if she can get in with Trash Talk members it gives her protection.

>>4696729
i dunno, are you an actual retard or just larping as one?

>>4696893
Why can't you answer my question?

I still have no clue why Hololive picked Mori for EN, she applied on a whim, vastly overhyped her qualifications
and now 9 months after being accepted, still puts bare minimum effort into collabs and streams, just endless zatsudan and apology videos
it's pretty clear she never wanted to stream or be a vtuber, she just wanted to use this to catapult her career with ironic weebs and get internet cred with e-celebs

>Gigguk is a cancer and people can't understand how Mori can be so motivated to collab with someone like him

>>4696729
between unironic reddit migrants, desperate deadbeats trying to handle their cognitive dissonance, and the type that can't differentiate between feeling negatively about content and being an anti, there are more than enough posters who could either literally like TT or be pretending for rhetorical effect to go around.

>I still have no clue why Hololive picked Mori for EN, she applied on a whim, vastly overhyped her qualifications
>and now 9 months after being accepted, still puts bare minimum effort into collabs and streams, just endless zatsudan and apology videos
>it's pretty clear she never wanted to stream or be a vtuber, she just wanted to use this to catapult her career with ironic weebs and get internet cred with e-celebs

>When autists forget that downvotes still raise her profile in The Algorithm as proof of viewer engagement....

Are KFPs really like this?

>>4696931
HoloEN was them testing the waters. They couldn't have known it would blow up the way it did, especially Gura. It explains why EN is a mix of talented girls like Ina and shitters like Mori

>>4696985
whatever bro

/qa/ please leave
>>>/qa/

>>4696931
"Hololive is good at scouting people" has always been a meme

>>4692752
You're just jealous because you're not in his place. Admit it.

>HoloEN was them testing the waters. They couldn't have known it would blow up the way it did, especially Gura. It explains why EN is a mix of talented girls like Ina and shitters like Mori

>>4697000
>muh algorithm
Nobody gives a shit, it's not like a VOD getting recommedned to a hundred more people will change anything. Dislikes make menhera brapper insecure and that's what matters.

>>4697065
bruh i saw you post this in another thread. certified coal. be more original.

>>4692752
>tfw card game nerd
>been playing since I first touched MTG at like 8 years old back in the 90s
>played every card game under the sun
>2005, 10, 15, 20, still playing card games
>get into HS when it's new and MTG is getting more and more predatory
>get into Shadowverse when HS starts going on a downwards quality spiral
>make Grandmaster five times, fully committed autism
>Mori picks THIS game of all possible games to show how little she gives a fuck about Hololive
I know it's schizo to take it personally, I know she doesn't even know I exist, but fuck me if this doesn't sting on a personal level.

>>I still have no clue why Hololive picked Mori for EN, she applied on a whim, vastly overhyped her qualifications
>>and now 9 months after being accepted, still puts bare minimum effort into collabs and streams, just endless zatsudan and apology videos
>>it's pretty clear she never wanted to stream or be a vtuber, she just wanted to use this to catapult her career with ironic weebs and get internet cred with e-celebs

>>4697056
scouting would imply they actively go out and recruit streamers to work for them
they just open applications and get 1,000 egirls applying, and pick the top 3-4 per gen who have the most subs or followers on their social media

>>4697065
:)
Talented girls like Gura and Ina, shitters like Mori and Kiara (but at least Kiara tries)

>>4697065
>>4696985
>>4696950
>>4696675
>>4694111
Deadbraps in full damage control mode

>>4697000
that's a lie made up by people to stop downvotes from happening, what matters is the ratio of downvotes

>>4697218
Proof?

>>4696232
But deadbeats were also critical about her.

>>4697120
>Kiara
>trilingual extrovert singer with a literal lifetime career trying to be an idol, streamer, or both
Kiara is absolutely not a bad talent to have. At best her issues have a ton to do with management more than anything else. For example, it's been almost a year and she still insists on using her stream voice when making song covers, even though she has a perfectly good singing voice. A competent management would've squared that out day 1.

>>4697268
youtube algorithm considers dislikes a failure of their algorithm, if it recommends you something you don't watch for very long then dislike it will stop recommending videos like it to you and to people who have a view profile like you

>Deadbraps in full damage control mode

>>4697007
>and shitters like Mori
She is talented though but just not in streaming part.

>>4694332
Yeah and she can do all of those outsider e-celeb collabs after she leaves hololive and takes the deafbeats with her

>>Deadbraps in full damage control mode

>>4697270
What a bunch of whiners. She prefers to play with boys, what's wrong with that?

>>4697120
Kiara at least wants to be a vtuber and tries to provide content even if she comes off as narcissistic and cringe
Mori has no interest in anything related besides using the hololive platform to boost her weeb music career on her roommate acct
>>4697340
that's the whole fucking point, she has no interest in streaming at all
she just wants to make music on the hololive label but her contract makes her do collabs and stream 3-5 days a week
she shouldn't have even applied

>>4697328
Are you a happy kind of nigger? Do you glow? Is there a worm inside your earlobe?

>Are you a happy kind of nigger? Do you glow? Is there a worm inside your earlobe?

>>4692752
https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1401611088093798401

she took the criticism to heart and is doing her best starting with this collab, now stop making threads, schizo

>>4693676
That anituber faggot gets more pussy than the schitzo incels like you on this board.
Stay mad bitch

>>4697479
>I’m going to sleep feeling proud of myself
She definitely had sex

>>4697490
>Incel & faggot
Weird flex but ok

>>4697479
>just give her a chance after fumbling collabs with genmates for 9 months
>she's turning it around starting with this random e-celeb she stated before she wants to leech off of
she's just going to go back to doin no prepwork for any streams and half assing things when she does the next genmate collab

>>4697319
So all the votes from people following links to dogpile on aren't counting for shit since they weren't from recommendations. Lmao.

>Gigguk is a cancer and people can't understand how Mori can be so motivated to collab with someone like him
>I still have no clue why Hololive picked Mori for EN, she applied on a whim, vastly overhyped her qualifications
>and now 9 months after being accepted, still puts bare minimum effort into collabs and streams, just endless zatsudan and apology videos
>it's pretty clear she never wanted to stream or be a vtuber, she just wanted to use this to catapult her career with ironic weebs and get internet cred with e-celebs
>HoloEN was them testing the waters. They couldn't have known it would blow up the way it did, especially Gura. It explains why EN is a mix of talented girls like Ina and shitters like Mori

>>4697490
You need that to be true, sorry bitch boy. I know that’s nonsense. I had a very good run before I went NEET. This shit is a choice.

>>4697566
all downvoting does is
>tells youtube you don't like mori streams
>tells youtube people like you who watch like you don't like mori streams
>makes the number big
the 3rd one is the one that gives youtubers aneurysms, most youtubers have incredibly big but fragile egos and even a handful of negative comments will stick in their mind forever
Mori sees 10,000 positive comments sucking her clit every time she logs into twitter but it just takes a few negative comments to get her all pissy and to private a video

>>4697447
Does this bring you happiness? Have you been fucked in the butthole?

Casts a spell to make this drama even more retarded

>>4697319
I'm pretty sure Pewdiepie concluded back then that likes and dislikes literally don't affect anything

>>4696232
Don't forget
>muh t-timeloops!!! You're just timelooping!! Which means I don't have to listen to your criticism!

Well shit, guess why the "same complaints" keep coming up against your cringe reaper bitch? It's only because she KEEPS MAKING the same mistakes - Mori herself is Timeloop Prime trapped in a neverending circle of "shit collabs because she can't be arsed to put in effort for regular streams with her genmates, for weels -> one good collab because it's something she actually personally cares about (music, ttrpg, or sadly... sucking eceleb faggot dick) -> back to shit regular collabs again for weeks" - and when she keeps causing the same problems with her low-effort attitude over and over again, people will keep pointing it out again.

You know how to fix the "timeloop", deadbraps? Not by shouting at the people who are tired of her shit, but by shouting at your oshi to sort her shit out. But seeing the reaction of the braindead yesman-brigade who continue to coddle her on youtube/twitter/reddit and are trying to bring their hugbox mentality even into here (holy shit deadbraps, you've become just as bad as those fucking normie masses out there), it's a safer bet for everyone who's not a deluded fan of her to expect her to regress back into apathy because we've seen this happen enough times (timeloop, huh? Well that's just how a non-deadbrap feels when looking at Mori) already.

Mori is going to graduated before Kiara
LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOO

>>4697741
>back then
ok good to know it's literally worthless
>pewdiepie
go back

>>4697710
>Gura is the next guest on trash taste podcast

>>4693676
Why do you seethe so poor anon?

>>4693676
This narrative is getting stale.

>>4697826
>I wish she'd graduate or never collab with her colleagues ever again.
Based

>>4697105
You KNOW the "shadowverse training" was just a convenient pretense for her to hang out with her RL buddy on stream and further normalize eceleb interactions, because that's what she actually really wants and is using the clout she gained from Hololive for.

>>4692752
take your meds anonchama

I can't wait for next week where Mori and Gura have a wonderful collab and all you zhangs get a very eventful ride on an escalator.

>>4697826
If it happened on stream it isn't a narrative

Mori please run your retarded ideas through the management from now on.

Are we seeing people transform into a new species of insect in real time?

>>4697782
And you know better than the person who used to have the most subs on Youtube how?

>>4693790
>he doesn't know

>>4697910
Anon why are you trying to trap her in the bubble?

>>4697762
>but by shouting at your oshi to sort her shit out
But that is what the they are doing.

the thread is going very slow? did they ban all the people that were shit on Mori or something?

>>4698011
Because someone needs to protect her from herself.

>>4697911
So this is how the Zhang felt... The feeling of betrayal

>>4697910
>Management clamps down after seeing backlash to collabs they thought were bad ideas in the first place
>No more outsider collabs period now that includes NijiEN, Pikamee, and Ironmouse
>The other four know why everything was ruined, they won't say anything to Mori but they just become more distant from her afterward, even Kiara

>>4698048
A third of the replies were from some schizo faggot spamming wojaks. Most of those were deleted

>>4692752
I really hate Mori and her fans you have no idea.

>>4698048
the drama is already losing steam
it might be reinvigorated if mori does a low energy stream again.

>>4698068
GEN2 WHEN?

we almost hiy 1000 dislikes on Mori's stream but i don't see the point this dosen't affect the girl in anyway

>>4692919
This isnt JP. English speakers love drama.

>>4697270
>>4698044
Based. Checking out again, it's mostly non-members calling them entitled.

>>4697710
>the anime man interviews gura

>>4698068
Of course mori had to pull this shit right before the kino collab between Pikamee and Ina.
I hope that collab still happens...

>>4693482
Sure, the collab with Rikka surely didn't caused a shitshow that left the board unusable for hours.
Is amazing how Mori from all the girls got the most unicornfaggots, only behing behind of Gura and Ame, who share the same amount of schizos.

>>4698260
Greyniggers will always be greyniggers.

>>4698062
Bugs are incapable of feelings anonchama...

>>4698260
>>4698376
Not everyone has daddy's money

>>4698361
Literally, no one cared about the Rikka collab. It was all bait. You being this much of an autist doesn't make other anons worse.

>>4698401
Sometimes that's a good thing

I have no horse in this race, I'm not a deadbeat and don't watch her streams but this eceleb loving bitch will pay. disliked and closed tab. I will sleep soundly knowing I did nothing and nothing will change.

>>4698421
>I can't afford 5 dollars for a streamer I watch all the time
you don't need to be rich to afford that, just not underaged

>>4693422
She's his wife. Gigguk is a good Catholic boy, and wouldn't have premarital sex.

>>4698473
Even underage retards can afford five bucks a month.

>>4698361
>the collab with Rikka surely didn't caused a shitshow that left the board unusable for hours
The first one or the second one? I don't remember that happening.

>>4698193
what do you mean?
Mori has ridiculously thin skin and has mentioned before even a couple negative comments stick with her all day and overshadow the thousands of positive ones
having over 100 dislikes on a stream really fucks with her head
remember she privated and trimmed out a whole collab based on a couple hundred downvotes

opinions of mori aside, why doesnt /vt/ like anitubers/trash taste?? i literally know nothing about them is it just because theyre cringe?

>>4698278
good, fuck Ina's fans
weirdest bunch of retards I've ever seen
it's like they simultaneously have an inferiority complex and a misplaced superiority complex at the same time

>>4693664
I'm pretty sure she doesn't think about this board at all.

>>4698537
trash taste is literally employed by kadokawa to shill the newest seasonal anime
it's just some guys who got popular doing youtube rant videos about anime becoming part of the marketing wing of shitty anime

>>4698361
Yeah you're right that didn't happen, in fact when I was in those threads everyone was saying the game was a terrible choice instead of shitting on the collab

>>4698537
I don't watch them so I could be wrong, but anitubers and people of that ilk tend to be ironic weebs who will shit talk vtubers/people who like vtubers, but don't mind riding their coattails for clout

>>4698537
Anituber fans are so hiveminded. They just watch them to validate their own opinions.

>>4694332
Just kick her out of Hololive then. If she goes indy under new persona nobody would give a fuck with whom she collabs.

>>4698537
They don't have any interest in vTubers outside of shitting on the hobby and are just using them for monetary gain. Their fans are also cancer and will make the fandom even shittier than it is.

>>4698679
she already got what she wanted
she all but fucking said "hey I'm SatanSquares please follow that account too"
doesn't really matter regardless she already got the career boost she wanted, she's just riding this vtuber thing as far as it takes her

>>4698603
>>4698517
>>4698422

>Anons backpedaling about the Homos because "muh hate to connur's friends".

Let's see that when any of the girls collabs with Kuzuha

>>4696043
still my dislike would remain

>>4694400
you first deadbrap
I want to make sure I can piss on your grave, cuck

>>4696729
reddit exist anon

>>4697826
reposting because it applies here
>Makes Gura extremely uncomfortable during their first collab together
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Drags the entire generation into a series of extremely boring Overcooked 2 where she just mumbles to herself the whole time forcing collab partners to pick up the slack, despite being the one to start it
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Promises Kiara that they'd do weekly Minecraft streams where they could learn the game together, collabed MC exactly once one one month later and never again
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Spends half an hour thanking superchats during her first Minecraft collab with Gura
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Doxxes herself and then obnoxiously fake screams into the mic the entirety of the Secret Neighbor collab
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Can't even be bothered to set up the game correctly for the first big Among Us collabs, is a massive anchor for the team and a wet blanket during meetings
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Was in a separate Discord channel thanking superchats during her second Among Us collab while her JP senpais all introduced themselves
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Played Lethal League with deadbeats while Ina literally stood there and watched, in what was supposed to be a Mori Ina collab
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Starts sulking when the punishment game comes up in Puyo Puyo Tetris, refuses to take part and brings the mood down
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Extremely and inexplicably rude to Kiara during the Takamori Q&A, nearly brought her to tears
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Doesn't know the first thing about Reine during their collab together, keeps calling her 'senpai' and actually thinks she's a Turkey character
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>According to Kiara, has overslept multiple collabs, forcing them to be delayed or rescheduled
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Spoils the outfits for the Walfee outfit reveal collab, doesn't even try during the Jeopardy rounds and just types gibberish
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>was in a separate discord
>Completely uninterested during her Clubhouse 51 stream with Kiara, Kiara even has to pull out the fucking weather deck to try and get any sort of response from Mori
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Spent 2 hours saying absolutely nothing but random autism grunts, as Kiara desperately tries to carry a conversation during their Shadowverse collab
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Can barely speak two words of Japanese during her Super Bunnyman stream with Rikka, forcing him to use English instead
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Completely shits the bed in the highly anticipated Coco Meme Review collab, exercising her usual "awkward sperg spamming stock phrases like naruhodo instead of holding an actual conversation" shtick to its fullest as Coco becomes more and more desperate to get ANY kind of reaction out of her and eventually asks 75k live viewers "is she always like this?"
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>made Gura wake up early on a day she had a stream later in the day
>replaced their game because it only has local play with a game that only has local play
>didn't install the game anywhere between the game being changed and the actual collab
>made a sleepy Gura wait 20 minutes only to have her experience about 0.5 to 2 second lag
>finally settle on Phasmophobia after all this struggling
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!

ULTIMATE version.

While people want Mori to leave, they don't understand the damage it will have on Holo as a brand when she does leave. The same dramafags complaining about her today will then just complain that Hololive is a black company restricting her creative freedom. The only winning move was not hiring her but it's already past that. Holo will not make it past the year.

>>4698517
The first one was actually overall rather well received because of the live acoustic duet singing and Mori being enthusiastic because she cared for it (notice a pattern here?).
The second one was a rather forgettable boring affair, it really felt like they were just phoning in the gaming part as a pretense/obligation to get to the actual announcement (release of their collab song) at the end, and it didn't help that by trying to play SBM the "right" way (overfocused on reaching goals) they played it exactly the "wrong" way for an entertaining stream, so no griefing, banter or much any excitement at all (again, notice a pattern? Sounds like a "usual" Mori collab, doesn't it), just going through the motions and her only contributing her few canned stock phrases. "Sou sou...", "naroo hodo nay....", "yoishaw..."

>>4698934
Take your meds

>>4698934
Based historyanon

>>4698810
You're a fucking dumbass if you really believe people are going to rage at Kuzuha getting a collab in. IF there is any seethe, I can bet my left nut that people will be more pissed at MOAR APEX than Tokyo Ghoul. Fucking cope retard. No one cares if it's vtubers.

>>4698499
He's a Buddhist who used to be a monk. Buddhists are all cucks.

>>4698934
Needs updating already.

>>4698934
I'd pay an anon 100 dollars if somehow made all of this in a video.

>>4698537
I don't watch vtubers to have non vtubers shoved in my face is that simple, especially the ones that are literally going in the trend to stay relevant

>>4698810
One of mori's first collas was with a male, no actual deadbeat cares if she collabs with other male vtubers and probably musicians too, but anitubers are crossing the line

Holo got too big and this is the consequences of that. It's what happens when you grow too big and too quick.

>>4698970
>m-m-meds
don't handwave away the evidence when you're the one calling this pattern of behavior a narrative like it isn't an established thing with her

>>4697319
this, fucking this, its been proven over and over again that video with high dislikes ratio will get recommended less. the reason why hololive got so popular is because the insane likes to dislikes ratio holos have. for example the previous mori stream got 25k likes and 50 dislikes, this kind of insane positive ratio you can't find outside of hololive. don't fall for retards that keep repeating "hurr durr dislikes are engagement more dislikes more engagement yadayada"

>Still not break 1k dislikes
Fucking pathetic, even zhangs are far more competent than you faggots.

Rrat: Mori was quiet/less interactive during the SV collab with Kiara because she was seriously trying to read cards/understand the game state to try and win. Getting demolished by Kiara fired up her competitive spirit and she wanted to get better at SV. Figured she might as well stream it so she could get content out of it and people could see the journey. Management had already floated the idea of a tournament with a mentor so she might have thought “Why don’t I invite SV experts for advice/feedback?” Then she reached out to Gigguk (because she knew him and assumed he still was invested) and a couple other players who she thought were good.

>>4693422
Everybody is just mad this lad is fucking a white woman and still going for a wigger.

>>4699429
You don't know yet? Meds is 4chan's equivalent of reddit's downvote while based is the equivalent of an upvote.

100 more dislikes to go until 1k, keep them coming

>>4700168
have you had sex

This board does not need to exist anymore.

Purposeful harassment and hate comments in the guise of self-proclaimed "criticism" that only fulfills the purpose of being an anti without the guilt of being an anti.

And for what? So that you have the opportunity to actually impact someone's life? So that you can finally feel like you have a tiny bit of control in your insignificant life?

>>4700230
No

>>4692752
Did my part. Not because I hate Gigguk, because I hate him AND Calli.

>>4700230
Reddit has joined the chat

>>4700230
Why is "have sex" the go-to insult? Is this some kind of twitter meme?

>>4700231
I like this board. People here can blow off steam and talk shit which is a refresher from being in a hivemind 24/7.

>>4700231
You can leave anytime. Every other place is moderated to death so you won't have shortage of places to visit

>>4700230
No, my incel rage keeps me focused.

>>4700064
This rrat (copexcuse?) would work better if the Kiara SV stream was the only time we've seen Mori bored/grumpy/apathetic/sounding like she'd be rather somewhere else, and you could sugarcoat it by the "s-she was just focusing on the game!!" handwave. But this has been an established pattern of behavior and attitude of hers for so long now, and it also happens in streams where there's no game to take the blame, that you'd have a hard time convincing anyone but the most deluded deadbrap that this is really what's going on instead of facing the much simpler explanation that she just doesn't give enough of a shit about anything Hololive unless it's one of her few pet project she actually cares about.

>>4700318
It is like the whole touch grass incel meme t.somebody who uses twitter normally

>>4698934
And yet, Mori is still successful. lol

>>4700230
Go back troon

>>4700372
In the ITT collab she was literally counting down the minutes until she could end the stream

>>4700353
Not that guy, but can't you just use that excuse and not watch vtuber you don't like? "plenty of other vtubers you won't have a shortage" Doesn't work that way buddy.

>>4700442
Why are they so sex crazed?
It says a lot that it's the first and only thing they can throw at you. You'd think it loses its meaning after so many uses

>>4700529
Why? So you can have one more hugbox where you're insulated from negativity? How about you fuck yourself you worthless nigger

>>4700537
P.Zombies, don't worry about them.

>>4692752
>1000 dislikes is all you can muster
LMAO get fucked retards

>>4700591
Ahh yes thanks buddy showed me with petty insults and strawman.

>>4700372
It’s possible for both to be true, she could have been focused against Kiara but unenthusiastic about other collabs. I’m not trying to say any about her overall collab record, (she really does have some general improvements to make). I mean, we can check the vod to verify how much she was mousing over cards and how much time she spent strategizing, etc

>>4700230
yes, it was ok.

>>4700529
You were talking about this board smoll brain so don't try to shift the topic

>>4695709
Nice try bugman, kill yourself

we have people on reddit and the comments calling us out, bros you made yourselves too obvious, at least Nijiniggers use idolfags to take the blame

>>4700644
He's not wrong. There are already way too many hugboxes on the internet. This place may seem like it's always being negative, but there's the freedom of expression that is so lacking on every other platform. Not to mention, you can just leave/ignore a thread if you don't like it. There are positive threads here for you, too. It's not totally homogeneous

>>4700230
does having sex make mori not a lazy cunt? no?
then it's not relevant here, twitter-immigrant-chama

>>4700761
t. deadbrap cuck

>>4700537
It’s an attempt to move the discussion to someone’s motive rather than the content of their argument

>>4700495
Not just then, there were multiple streams already where the same or something similar happened, Mori either cutting short because of some """appointment""" or at least letting something else cloud her mind enough that she couldn't be arsed to actually entertain the people she has watching her right now and just phoning it in like a "chore" to get over with.

The other girls have their problems too sometimes, but never ever to the level of Mori who's repeatedly the worst at it, and no deadbraps, it's not because "w-well, she's the hardest working out of them all!"

>>4700741
Not shifting the topic just calling out your bullshit "just go away" which is the same shit used by people defending content.
>>4700771
I'm not necessarily agreeing with the first person my friend. You're just assuming things. I was mainly saying that the defense he used was weak. Everyone knows the main reason to be on 4chan is little moderation, and anonymity. I also see a lot of backpatting here that disgust me. You can hate and criticize something of course I don't agree with him overall.

>>4697270
Youtube comments are not being retarded for once? Is this real life?

>>4700767
>reddit
god I forgot how shit their site looks now that they redesigned everything

>>4700991
That post brought up that this board was bad and should be shut down. I was responding to that only pos. People have right to voice their opinions just like you but if you want boards that aren't critical there are plenty of them out there

>>4701150
the vast majority of the comment section is run of the mill retardation. You really have to dig to find any criticism.

>>4693007
guys... are we the chinks..?

>>4701208
Horseshoe theory always wins

>>4698270
>Sykkuno collabs with Gura and they flirt really heavily with each other the entire time

>>4695891
>entire board dedicated to gossiping about women
jeez I wonder why it's nothing but drama

>>4701208
Well china is ruling the world these days and hololivers haven't mentioned taiwan since so.....
I'm just saying if it works it works

>>4700442
Is touch grass just twitter's way of saying go outside?

>>4696615
underrated comment

>>4701369
yes it's just an extension of "log off" or "too online" that people have been saying for 15 years

It's not even this collab. It just seems to be in general. I don't know but even in her solo streams she seems uninterested with what she's doing most of the time. The only time she seems happy is mainly doing music stuff. It just makes her other content seem boring if anything? Like the other girls have flaws but they still put so much effort but when I watch one of callie streams she comes across as someone who just rather focus on something else? I don't know, I don't want to jump into some conclusions or anything here

>>4701170
Oh I'm not agreeing with the pathetic notion that this board should be shut down. I haven't seen this board do anything on the level of 5ch so I don't give a shit. Nothing wrong with being critical that doesn't bother me, though I do see things get blown out of proportion (from my point of view not everyones of course) I find it more amusing to see what people get upset at than anything else since I never really feel that way about it myself.

>>4700808
No. Anyone who equivicates the Chinese trash to her fans is either a chink trying to falseflag or a fucking retard who needs to kill themselves at the earliest convenience.

>>4697120
Mori is a pretty good artist and animator, writes lyrics, does mixing, music making, rapping, vocals, and other music production stuff all HERSELF.. In terms of raw talent in EN she's probably the highest desu

>>4692752
>>4693676
>>4694066
The reason mori put more effort into this collab is because she was embarrassed about the Coco collab and promised she’d never get steamrolled like that again. That’s the reason why, you faggots; she’s making the effort to improve.

>>4701484
why not do it with the gura collab?

>>4697379
>She prefers to play with boys, what's wrong with that?
wrong boys

>>4701369
ironically, the only reason someone could say that phrase to someone else is by also being an internet addict because otherwise you wouldn't immediatly know what it means

>>4701484
Her coco collab was a standard mori stream, she hasn't changed since her debut and she won't change now

>>4700486
Arguably the second most successful. So I guess I understand the seethe. She's successful for the reasons schizos here hate her.

923 now, LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>4692752
Imagine giving engagement to anituber collab

>>4701649
Being honest here it's funny that 1k dislikes is the actual realistic goal expected to get for a hololive video that is also expected to be a punch in the gut to the streamer, when 35:1 like/dislike ratio is very normal for content creators.
At any rate LETS GOOO

>>4701779
30:1* I don't know why I wrote 35.

>>4701190
yeah I just checked and it's a cesspit. full of anituber trash and saying how much they loved it. It's terminal, there is no saving this fanbase. It will only get worse with the vshitshow whores, this was a mistake, nuke the entirety of EN.

>>4701873
It was bound to happen, the question was when?
Now we'll see what literal who e-celeb will collab with the chuubas (and then make some drama about some "dark side who nobody mentions" or some shit. It was funs while it lasted, it's all downhill from here. I hate all of you

>>4701779
Since they tend to get 50 dislikes at max with Gura getting 100 sometimes, 1000 is at least noticeable

>>4701873
The next person that Mori will collab with is Charlie, reddit and twitter are already trying to convince her to do a collab
get ready for this, only worse

>>4701873
The audience has spoken anon. They love this shit. Why would they nuke what most people want?

Remember that if you truly want to criticize Mori:
>Never spam and harass Gigguk, dude is nothing more than a guest and not fishy like Cuntnor. Don't let normies faggots group you with Idolfag.
>Focus on pointing out how she lack enthusiasm and effort when collab with co-workers.
>Don't spam like chinks faggots, if you disatisfy with her future performance, unsub, don't watch her stream and even until she actually improve.

>>4702181
That's more or less where I was getting at, Hololive is so consistently succesful you sometimes forget how it really is for the majority of the other content creators. Like, 3k viewers means you're declining in Hololive, but you're literally top 0.01% on Twitch if you have that many viewers

>>4698606
all three of them like vtubers
one of them never knew about vtubers before he found out that a bunch of them liked him, anon, please do even the most basic of research before you speak

>>4702100
the only pastime left I have that isn't full of eceleb faggotry would be something I do by myself in my own home without internet access... shit just keeps getting more lonely for me.

>>4701873
It was bound to happen, the question was when? Now we'll wait to see what literal who e-celeb will collab with the chuubas (and then make some drama about some "dark side who nobody mentions" or some shit years later). It was funs while it lasted, it's all downhill from here. Well, as long as they don't go trying to leech of the JP side I don't care.

>>4702273
the audience of grey names wants this
Reddit is already seething about 6 month members being critical of this collab and pointing out most of the dick sucking comments are all grey names who have never joined membership or donated

Hololive and the streamers know what keeps them going, or they should. It's their fanbases, the ones who stick around and donate or join membership. Not the retards who hop into a stream off reddit and chat for 5 minutes before jumping to another for the memes

>>4702344
I feel you man, seems like it's too much to ask to have fun on something that doesn't have the typical stuff.

>>4702336
but what if I liked the stream anon?
do you have to be so cringy?

>>4702336
>don't criticize gigguk
no fuck that gook piece of shit arm of the Kadokawa marketing machine

>>4698606
The vast majority of HololiveEN fans have been ironic weebs from day 1. Gura going so viral made the problem even worse. Twitch streamers use her as emotes to denote "weeb" stuff. I don't know why we wring our hands about putting the toothpaste back in the tube after it was squeezed out half a year ago.

>>4701873
>entirety of EN
Why? I consistently watch Ame and Ina, and sometimes Gura, and I never get recommended anything from Mori nor Kiara. The girls don't pull random shit and the yabs made by their coworkers rarely bleed into gurainame streams or fanbase. That'd be like deciding to nuke whole Gen 4 because of Coco's chink yab.

>>4697270
you really had to dig for these comments huh?

>>4702531
no, those are being posted on reddit as proof that "the deadbeats have a big incel/idolfag infestation"

>>4702515
Gurainame fans continue to be the most vindictive, petty, basic bitches. Do feel bad for Ame fans though. Damn has she declined.

>>4702338
What a coincidence, when there is money to be made they decide to change opinions but still shit on where that money comes from.

>>4702336
what if my grievance is that I strongly dislike a male eceleb streaming with a hololive girl? The only exception to this is if it's a male vtuber, one that doesn't show his actual IRL face occasionally so the "magic" of vtubing remains as is, or a male eceleb that has transcended the faggotry of being an eceleb like ZUN, Mafia Kajita, or maybe Gabe Newell.

>>4702458
Of course we have to be cringy. Someone will always view caring about stuff as cringy.

Reminder that if you are a Calli "fan" but are criticizing her over this collab, you never really were a Calli fan and you just want to shape her into what you think she should be like and are clinging into the idea of being her fan. Just go find another girl to watch instead. With that said, fuck Gigguk and fuck this collab!

btw, Connor from Trash taste said that he and the boys regularly have hung out with her IRL so if you're wondering why she's so loose and friendly it's because they're basically IRL friends and it's a lot easier to loosen up when that's the case. I don't think this should upset anyone.

>>4702645
They never changed opinions anon, what are you on about?

This feels like a moment where you need some self reflection for what a dumb motherfucker you're being.

>>4702572
What happened to Ame? In the last few months I've only seen her fishtank collab with Gura and it looked fine.

We did it guys, anitubers are no more!

shout out to redditniggers that are coming here to see the "incels" at work

>>4693422
since nobody else seems to either know or be pointing it out, gigguk's girlfriend is sydsnap

>>4699895
it has 300k views , is getting boosted anyay.
Dislikes only matter if they are 40% of the total interaction and then it stops recomending it.

>>4702461
I agree but attacking him about it makes it too easy for them to deflect and spin this into a "you're just angry because she collabs with a male!" anti-idolfag narrative, when it's actually rather more about her contrasting attitudes and enthusiasm gap between regular collabs with her genmates and (any) outsiders / pet-projects.

At least that's the issue for me. I don't like Gigguk either and have many others I'd much rather prefer as collab partners, but most of all I wish she'd bring the effort/preparation/enthusiasm she can muster up for fucking Gigguk of all people into some "mere" normal collabs with her own genmates. If she did, I'd care much less about what else she does in her free time.

>>4702701
I don't even watch calli streams, she is the only holoen I'm not subscribed to.
But I am a Hololive fan, and don't want the types like gigguk anywhere near it.

>>4702876
My issue is that I don't want e-celebs who are only here jumping on the trend, leech of the v-tubers (and it's obvious these people will mock you while they do so). I just want entertainmen that doesn't have all the bullshit.

>>4702779
her streams are normally 25,000 likes to 50 dislikes
this is 200x the number of downvotes she normally gets
you can guarantee she's pissed and her ego is bruised over this

>>4703015
entertainment*

I just took mine away because I was being petty. I didn't even watch it, how can I dislike it?

>>4702921
Yeah it's fine to complain if you aren't a Calli fan, I am not one either, but the people calling themselves "fans" complaining about this were never really her fans if they don't like their oshi doing what she likes to do. Either way, I do hope this stops I don't want to see any more non-vtuber collabs seep in to hololive as it breaks my immersion.

>>4702779
Incels aren't any better than Chinese raiders.

>>4703098
You can just dislike it if it's content that you don't want to see

>>4703168
At least chinks can do more than 1k dislikes.

Woke up expecting a lot of people talking about watame and astel's birthday and their songs but everyone is talking about calli. Huh?

>>4703277
Some were even begging chinks for help in the beginning. Kneeling for a couple more dislikes, that's just pathetic.

>>4703332
people don't like e-celebs, neither anitubers

>>4703460
It's just sad that some big events are being overshadowed by this.

>>4702876
>"you're just angry because she collabs with a male!" anti-idolfag narrative
This says everything anyone needs to know about EN fans really. Bunch of cucks. UnicornCHADs rule this hobby and you and your whores don't belong.

Can people who liked the collab and the westernized direction hololive is going, tell me why they watch hololive if they want them to be like every other twitch streamer?

>>4700064
rrat's not a synonym for cope

>>4703679
Classic case of leaving a toxic community, only to promote the policies that created the toxic community elsewhere.

>>4702779
If Mori starts focusing on the dislikes instead of all the likes after all the shit she talked in her songs i'm gonna be laughing so hard.

>>4700857
I especially love how her internet gets shitty and she drops during collabs woth Gura. One time, we get it, shit happens. But it happening in multiple collabs with Gura?

>>4702336
fuck you, we found out with vei that gatekeeping and harassing works

>>4703679
it's like californians moving to texas

>>4704274
what harassing?

>>4704246
She always does that, and she's really conscious for someone whose passion is rapping, she can't take the bants

>>4704274
And besides, who cares if you're looked down by the hugbox? It works.

>>4703447
Fuck them, they're the reason we have some chinks shitting up Mio, Ina, and Ame's chat. Traitors deserve the same meds as the bugs.

>>4704343
>>4704274
yeah my bad, helpful criticism

>>4704274
>Goes 1/1000
IT WORKS

>>4704711
Wait they were shitting in ame and ina chat? The hell were they saying?

>>4705787
it was just gibberish

>>4706782
Talk about desperation

>>4692752
Didnt even watch the collab,went there to like now, keep seething subhumans.

>>4692752
This but with Mori

>>4703679
don't be stupid anonchama
good content is good content, regardless of if it's hololive, niji or vshojo or indies. I watch who I want, and what I want. If it's good, it's good and I like it.

being a dumb tribal nigger and hating on calli for collabing with someone you don't like is retarded. Don't like it? Don't watch. There's tons of other 'livers.