/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Pikamee will be hated if she fucked everyone's feelings up with her graduation just to redebut, and with V-fucking-Shojo no less.

Is it too late for Mikeneko and Delutaya to make amends?

>>46761487
That didn't stop Kekson from joining, so why would it would stop Pika?

>>46761487
nooo you have to keep the same job your literal entire life or i will be le mad

The Vtuber Avengers is assembling.

Kek imagine wasting your life on whores and giving them money none the less could never be me, I know the truth, yes anon I have awakened to the truth, you could basically me a woke because JESUS died on the cross and save humanity from the condemnation of sins, whoever believes in Him, yes believe in Jesus have an eternal life.

>>46761425
>Kekson
I rate Mirai Akari as very likely to join, Pikamee as probable and Uto as possible, but unlikely.

>>46761551
Because she was completely independent and could do what she wanted. That doesn't mean others have to agree with her decision, which is why Kanata left the house.
Pikamee is different. I really don't understand why anons still don't seem to get it. The predominant narrative is still that Pikamee got bullied by trannies to graduate. Trannies have spent the past month accusing Pikamee of grifting her graduation. Guess what happens if she reincarnates.

>>46761551
Kson was an indie for a year, Pika will look like she's shitting on her old fans and coworkers by deleting everything and abandoning them, just to chase money, since she already had the freedom to do whatever she wanted.

sayu/zaion will buddy up with, maybe even join vshojoJP after she comes back

>>46761956
>she already had the freedom to do whatever she wanted
she literally talked about things she wanted to do but couldn't almost every stream in her graduation month threadreaderchama

Kson really was out to destroy vtubing

>>46761910
>which is why Kanata left the house
lmfao sure it was kanata's decision 100% uninfluenced by management because she hates some rando foreign vtuber group for being le whores

>>46762118
Okay, it's by management. Do you disagree with the decision now?

>>46761910
So the people who hated her continue to hate her whereas the people who missed her and hated how the last chapter of her Pika 'life' get another chance with her.

>>46761956
From what it sounded like, this graduation was a long time coming and Pikamee had quite a few bones to pick with VOMS. I don't think there is the love lost that you think will happen if she returns.

>>46761758
Holy based

>>46762202
Kson to this day still gets chink up her ass. Mentally ill trannies that genuinely believe Pikamee exacerbated the trans genocide against them will never let go until she's dead.

>>46761425
It makes me really think you need to take your goddamned meds.

>>46761910
>>46762166
Kanata moved out because she's a schizo and Kson had to have tech people come over several times to set up her 3D equipment.

>>46761425
Whatever it is, it's not VShojoJP. I still firmly believe that branch/brand is toxic in the JP vtubing mainstream, being actively blacklisted by Cover and supported in that decision by Anykara.

>>46762202
New model, new attitude. Joining a different corpo changes the content of a streamer.

>>46761425
If Pikamee rebrands as a vshojo, I'm going fucking nuclear and putting pronouns in my twitter bio.

>>46761956
Cool retardpost

>>46762716
>A vtuber made me trans
does anon really?

>>46761571
>have an emotional going away party
>come back almost immediately, working for someone else

>>46762800
She literally had the least emotional graduation I've ever seen. A normal chatting stream and then byebye. And besides if she just dropped a "I'm graduating" tweet and never streamed again you would be seething over that too. That's no winning with consolewarsfags.

>>46762800
>>come back almost immediately
if she comes back it won't for a while
also people who watch Pika (not (you)) don't care

>>46762545
Lol. Speaking of that interview with the VshojoJP director, one of the little aside things he talked about was how all the Vtuber Agencies are a lot more in touch with each other than people assume they are.

Console Wars is the child perspective on how the world works. Meanwhile the same companies are on good terms with each other behind the scenes because Business is Business and they're all Businessmen first and foremost.

>>46761487
yeah, no.
a lot will be happy seeing her return, doesn't matter if it's vshojo, nijisanji or hololive or a complete 4th option.
the way graduations are done isn't something they control most of the time, any sane person won't hold them accountable with how graduation streams usually go, as if they are off to die and never to be seen in this world again.
times have changed, loved vtubers especially ones that are under a corpo, a lot would love to see them return into the vtuber scene.

>>46762716
>>46762800
Pair of literal trannies getting offended on behalf of others who just don’t care, go virtue signal elsewhere or join the 41%

They're not going to put Pikamee in the same corpo as Silvervale. The trans community would never recover.

>>46762948
We don't really need to assume that with Cover and Anykara. They did just put out a joint statement to fight harassment of their talents in cooperation with each other. Plus Pekora's recent Nijisanji x Hololive Granblue Fantasy mega project. We know they're tight behind the scenes.

>>46761425
Big if true. /here/ would be in uproar for multiple days.

>vshojo gets fucked by zhangs because of kson
>vshojo gets fucked by trannies because pikamee
TOTAL VSHOJO DEATH LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

That's nice.
Shame the company is all whores and child mutilation supporters.

>>46762800
i can see that with mirai akari(a lot of crying), but pikamee was a more dry graduation at least in my opinion

>>46761425
>And finally, barely a week later, Uto, who moved to Twitch in recent years and has been studying English, announces her graduation out of nowhere.
Uto discussed wanting to go corporate before but decided against it since it would mean starting over and giving up her creative freedom. It's not exactly out of nowhere, but it seems she had a change of heart.

>>46761425
>by year's end.
fuckers have been saying he said it was soon...
Also uto was already a idie no need to rebrand for vshojo

Mirai akari's graduation was too emotional so it feels kinda shitty.

Pika, maybe

Oh also, of vsj is shown and proven to poach talents, no other corporation will ever let collabs happen between vsj and them

>>46762281
>Pikamee had quite a few bones to pick with VOMS
Such as? What kind of complaints she has about the agency that's barely a company to begin with? Why would she join the company with a cunt who pretty much enabled the same kind of people who harassed her for 2 months?

>>46761425
Uto is an indie, she didn't need to graduate to join VShojo.
If she wanted to join, she could have.

>>46763868
Coco's graduation was also emotional and look where she is now.
As were other vtubers that eventually went into their other life.

>>46761487
>pikamee will be hated
Absolutely delusional

>>46761425
Pretty obvious that she was sick of being associated with that name/model cause everyone kept bitching whenever she got a new model.

>>46761425
It's all fun and dandy but you think that Kson is oh-so-much important that she dragged 3 pretty big vtubers to throw away their current jobs to join some undersupported side branch of V-Shojo? Especially that nobody is living under a fucking rock and they probably are aware of Nazuma being damn nuclear reactor close to a meltdown.
Wake the fuck up, it's not 2021 and Kson is not a dragon yakuza boss being bridge between western and Japanese Vtubing. She's disillusioned, broken and sad bitch and nobody with two working braincells will work with her.

Mercenary squad if anything

absolutely shit behavior from vshitjo

>>46763984
Have you seen the hatred for Vshojo? Not just here but elsewhere as well?
It's not going to be a unanimously positive return. Some people will absolutely hate it.

>>46761425
Reminder that the real reason why people will not tolerate Pikamee in vshojo is THIS FUCKER.
She endorsed the wizard game harassment, and that accelerated Pikamee quitting. And don't forget the other shitty people there too.
If Pikamee is dumb enough to fall for kson's shit and languish as a twitch whore like Rushia, not being allowed on YouTube, it will be a huge mistake.
Even if she felt VOMS could have done more for her, or even let her go with the rights to the isekai model only, vshitshow is not the right option here.

>>46764146
kson (and soon pikamee) antis really are no different from chink tranny nijisisters

>>46763952
Kson joined vshojo 1 year later, this time girls would be graduating to join, way different

>>46764187
This is also fact - most of VShojo fans are the rainbow Twitter brigade that will devour Pikamee alive. I don't think that Pikamee is so desperate to get stuck between a broken whore and menhera without proper control with people that would like to crucify her as "audience".

>>46762480
>calling other a schizo because you hate her
>while kson become the "abraham lincoln" of vtuber and you kiss her feet
The state of western whore, yes kson is Georgian.

>>46764187
I can taste your tears
Delicious

>>46764433
100 Froot twitch points have been donated to your account.

>>46764355

>>46763921
>What kind of complaints she has about the agency that's barely a company to begin with?
Exactly like you said, it didn't provide her the support she needed to grow further than she wanted and restricted her from opportunities that she would have preferred to take. She had outgrown the VOMS box and was sick of it being an albatross around her neck while simultaneously being the sole reason it continued to exist.

>>46764187
True, she could join vshojo but i wouldn't be suprise if she got harrass by trannie and nobody will defend her, not even "vshojo assassination squad"

>>46764146
The hatred for vshojo is not nearly as vast as it is here or outside of here, when you look at the western vtubing sphere and look at who interacts with big named streamers outside of their bubble you see Iron Mouse and you don't see people calling her a whore or a grifter. They're controversial but not hated by a longshot

>>46763921

She couldn't do any of the things she wanted to do, like 3D, because the entire VOMS support staff was one dude in a garage with a different full-time job who will probably get around to thinking about maybe doing that thing you wanted someday when he gets a chance to think about it but probably not so don't hold your breath. After a couple years of that she was practically fuming just talking about it. Again, you would know this already if you actually watched her.

People here praise VOMS to the moon for no fucking reason. It's working under most of the limitations of being a corpo vtuber without any of the benefits.

>>46764509

>>46764493
> Outgrow VOMS box.
> Graduate from VOMS box to join in to two literal REJECTS from Hololive that currently are sitting in undersupported side branch of company that even for their main squad is having very little to no support and excuse it with "talent freedom".

Lol, lmao, fucking kek, oh fuck my sides.

>>46764355
I think you'll be surprised just how much in common some of them have with twitter freaks. If anything I could see Froot being the one who feels like the odd one out if they hire who we believe they are hiring.

>>46764146
the hatred for vshojo is literally just here and containment breakers on twitter like bannedvtmemes, everyone else loves them

>>46761425
Is gonna be honest, I don’t think uto is reincarnating, she said on stream before the reason she switched to twitch instead of YouTube was because the larger viewership on YouTube was overwhelming for her, so with that in mind (assuming she wasn’t just lying) she probably is calling it quits on content creation for now at least

why do vtubers bother with twitch anyway, it's got a shittier UI than youtube and is full of carebears

>>46761487
Because she would've pissed away her good will either way

>>46764647
>literal REJECTS
one of them literally rejected hololive when they quit
how fucking new are you?

>>46763868
I haven't checked up on her for a looonng time, but was she an actual indie, or an "indie" like what she claimed years ago?

>>46761425
I couldn't even hate on her if she actually pulls this off

>>46764759

Uto I think is the least likely of the three, but I wouldn't completely really it out, either.

>>46764856
Supposedly she got the rights to the model over a year ago with Nabi’s help iirc

>>46764569
What limitations? Gyari doesn't give a fuck about their content. The only thing she could have a problem is not having 3D infrastructure, but should be obvious from the moment she debuted since VOMS would be forever a smaller scale agency, and afaik the only money the agency got came from merch while superchats and memberships went all to the talents so the company would never get the necessary funds for big stuff like that. But yeah, good for her for abandoning Tomoshika and her kouhai for a company with a two-face bitch who threw one of her co-workers under the bus because of the wizard game.

Does Vshojo pay the talents in any way, or is it just what they make?

>>46761487
hated by threadwatchers maybe

>>46764146
Schizo twitter freaks and 4chan is where most rhe hate is coming from, besides those they really aren’t that hated

>>46764012
This post will age like milk next year

>>46765089
They get a small cut of the merch Vshojo produces but that’s about it iirc

>>46764809
>open link
>watch
It's just that simple. Everyone knows your actual issue is your subsidized phone plan.

>>46765089
Vshojo takes a cut of any merch deals or sponsorships they arrange for the talents. The talents keep all of their streaming money and any profits from merch/collabs etc that they arrange on their own.

Basically Vshojo is a talent agency that gets license rights to use the character for branding, merch, and so on.

>>46761487
She'll be hated by schizos and autists but she will be welcomed back by all the NORMAL people

>>46765084
But yeah, good for her for abandoning Tomoshika and her kouhai for a company with a two-face bitch who threw one of her co-workers under the bus because of the wizard game.
Yes good for her for wanting a larger playing field to do the stuff that VOMS couldn't do for her.
And I'm sure Pikamee will similar souls with similar experiences in Silvervale and Kson, if not a few more of VShojo.
Why not just be happy for the potential opportunity for her rather than be a debbie downer since you resent VShojo so much?

>>46765371
The NORMAL people who harassed for for daring to be interested in the wizard game?

>>46761425
Vshojo wants to prove itself as being more pro-lgbt than nijisanji. Hiring Pikamee will just push them away from that goal.

>>46765262
Exactly, the only ones who hate this situation are the ones who ALREADY hate her and never were gonna watch her. Its no loss for Pikamee, people who are howling foul have been howling foul for weeks already. Fucking stuff it trannies and faggots

>>46762118
I still think it’s because Micheal Cat joined so it would be a liability to leave her computer where the cat could have access to it if she goes over and isn’t there

>>46765371
don't lump me in with those fags, they are who made her graduate in the first place

>>46765366
>have twitch account
>get banned for arbitrary reasons because the twitch moderators hate anyone who isn't a tranny or e-thot

>>46765658
Each streamer has their own mods, not that you can afford to watch

>>46765464
>>46765545
Anon, you should know by now that trannies and their virtue signaling "allies" are anything BUT normal.

>>46761487
nah, people will love it

>>46764394
>yes, Kson is a Georgian
Damn right she is, the south will rise again yankee boy.

>>46765793
And a huge portion of Vshojo's main audience are those same NORMAL people.

>>46764187
Froot is just one person in Vshojo. If OP's theory is correct and Pikamee does in fact join it would mean that Froot would be the one taking the L. The more Silvervales and Pikamees we get in Vshojo the more Froot finds herself in the minority.It would show that, while I don't see Froot leaving anytime soon, her opinions are her own and not reflective of Vshojo as a whole. This would be a smart decision and benefit us in the long run.

>>46765874
You have no idea how much I fucking hate that Coco and Gura didn't get a chance to collab and go full southern drawl shittalking

>>46766173
Yeah, me too.

>>46765544
This. It was a major security risk and miguel is definitely menhera enough to have done that. If it was Kanata's decision? A good and smart decision. If it was management? Also a good and a smart decision.

Froot and Mel are the pro-lgbt virtue signalers, the rest don't care

>>46761487
The majority of people didn't want her to go and would love for her to come back and are not going to give a fuck where. Please leave your echo chamber you retarded faggot.

I hope that Pikamee returns in vshojo. The meltdown here would be insane.

>>46761487
>loses her /vt/ fanbase
some vtubers would see that as a win

>>46763595
>total vshojo death
Yes, please.

>>46761487
>implying her actual fans wouldn't be HAPPY to still be able to watch their oshi
motherfucker really forgot rushia went out with the worst way possible for a GFE chuuba and people still returned

>>46765084
you seem to care more about hating froot and throwing a pity party for VOM's than Pikamee herself
makes one think huh?

>>46765366
>three 20 seconds ADs start playing

>>46761425
If Pikamee truly moves to VShojo then maybe people will finally realize how much fucking damage Vshojo has done and still is doing to the Vtubing industry.

>>46764647
Does anyone know what vshojo even does other than like get nendroids. Dont ironmouse and vei have agents from some talent agency, and they are the biggest members

>>46768793
sub to make them go away ;^)

>>46765723
Do streamer mods run Twitch as a whole? Retard.

>>46761487
Lol you fags are so cancer, you use her for your war against the trannies then discard her when she joins (an immediately kinda shitty) company you don't like.
Pika is friends with Kson, and while I dislike Kson I love pika.
If being in Vshojo makes her happy that's all anyone who loves pikamee should care about.

>>46762800

So exactly what everyone else in the world does when they move on from their old job?Way to give away you've never worked a day in your life.

>>46766101
None of those retards watch Kson or Nazuna in the first place, they aren't going to watch Pika's reincarnation either.

>>46761910
>which is why Kanata left the house.
really? people still believe this shit?!
it's a new rule from cover for security reasons, anon.
that's why kanata moved out, la+ also moved out and no longer lives with her friend, and that's also why some holomems kept quiet about their living conditions.
some of them probably live close to each other, but don't really talk about it to avoid doxing.

>>46768726
Cool. I hope she's happy dealing with the same twitter freaks who painted her as the anti christ for wanting to play the wizard game.

>>46769669
I'm sure they won't know when the entire internet will obviously talk about it.

>>46768863

Mostly just merch. They arrange some sponsorships as well, but most of their money is made just cranking out a steady stream of easy merch like figures and dakimuras.

>>46769725
>I'm sure they won't know when the entire internet will obviously talk about it.
It's not a matter of knowing about it or not. THEY. WILL. NOT. WATCH. Go look at the Vshojo general sometime, basically none of the people who hang out there watch the JP branch ever. None of those type of people show up in stream chat, either.

You have to remember, these are people who are clinically retarded. They don't interact with the JP branch of Vshojo anymore than they do with HoloJP, and for the same reasons.

>>46768863
Helps with sponors, merch, brand deals, legal shit, technical help, they made that portable ipad screen thing, made backpack streaming,

>>46761487
Every fucking vtuber does that retard. Unless they get fired and erased before they can.

>>46764856
>>46765076
But if that were the case, that wouldn't explain why she's nuking her entire online presence and asking people to remove their clips.

If anything this is evidence that she's going to Niji because of their policy.

>>46769997
Vshojo fans do stick around during raids and for that I am thankful.

>>46769997
Unless Pikamee completely gives up pandering to her western audience I still doubt they will ignore her but even then it doesn't matter, a huge chunk of the people who harassed her before didn't watch her and they will most likely harass her reincarnation as well. Hell, there's people to this day saying her graduation was just for her to gather pity points or other bullshit like that. Maybe Vshojo finally mans up and tells those cunts to fuck off regardless of whatever the fuck they have in their twitter bios, but there's still the problem of that other whore who thinks putting a flag in her live2D means that she's doing her part or whatever and that it's a moral choice to not play the wizard game.

>>46761487
>Pikamee will be hated
She will be hated by five people on /vt/.
A few fans won't like something about her new model, or something like that, and not watch her, but they won't hate her.
The rest will be happy to have her back.

>>46770383
>But if that were the case, that wouldn't explain why she's nuking her entire online presence and asking people to remove their clips.
This shit again. It's standard corporate bureaucracy practice. The lawyers are just doing their jobs.

>>46761487
The day she announced her graduation, people were huffing copium left and right for a return as either indie or VShojo.

>>46761910
You people are so fucking retarded it's unreal.

Pika was planning to graduate for months. 1% of retarded twitter morons mean shit and have 0 real power. 90% of biggest twitch streamers got "bullied" for wizard game and they literally made videos laughing at retards trying to bully them. Phase girls played it. Holos played it. Shondo made fun of monkeys trying to bully her for playing it. Pippa played it and turned the stream into one big joke. Lumi told people trying to bully her in chat to fuck off while playing it. Nobody fucking cares. It all died down.

Twitter freaks have 0 real power.

>>46762948
>Meanwhile the same companies are on good terms with each other behind the scenes

It's not even behind the scenes they collab all the fucking time. Just look at vsaikyo with all the mixed corp teams.

Console wars are the dumbest shit ever and 90% of the time people doing it are useful idiots falling for PR and becoming sheep customers.

>>46761758
Jesus died for my sins, so I'm free to watch whores all day long sin-free. Thanks, Jesus.

>>46761425
>Uto...announces her graduation out of nowhere.
Nabi, your daughters...

>Pikamee left company that has no infrastructure to join company that has no infrastructure in japan
Are vshojofags clinically retarded or just coping with their dead branch?

>>46761425
SCARZ losing uto is tragic, but I'm glad I'll be able to know when she reincarnates by virtue of watching all her friends.

>>46771644
Are vshojofags clinically retarded or just coping with their dead branch?
Imagine being this stupid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrvbLKLyGkU&t=2659s

Why do people expect someone who quit their job to not pick up another job in the same industry?

>>46771645
she's not in sz

>>46771879
Because they're seething SEA teenagers who only know what a job is because they saw it on TV once.

>>46771978
I know I'm just fucking around cause of her relationship with dtto and rpr as well as wearing SZ in her Apex tag.

>>46771817
one of these days you'll learn to greentext redditbro
i believe in you

>>46772379
>Oh no, my ass got blasted out! Quick, point out a typo and hope no one notices this smoking crater where my asshole used to be!

So, Pika reincarnation. Booba or flat?

>>46772651
flat or she's dead to me

>>46772651
toggling between both

>>46772651
Probably flat. She can't milk years of boob jokes if she actually has boobs.

>>46772651
Debut as booba but during the stream her pads fall out.

>>46772651
1 large, 1 small.

>>46761758
SUPER BASED

>>46770464
I remember people saying this about Kson

>>46772651
she'll obviously be a loli
screencap this post

>>46771817
Vshojo just rents, just as many companies do except holo. VOMS could have very well done it as well but they didn't really see the need to, not like it's that expensive.
Besides that there are still only 2 members after more than half a year and Nazuna herself doesn't have a 3D model, why would it be different for any new hire. Remember Kson is a very special case

>>46773479
pikamee never angered the entire nation of china

>>46763771
Uto did say she talked to someone that knows the business and told her stay away from corporations she didn’t need them. There’s only 2 corporations where it’s worth joining at her size. Among the 2 you have to go through an academy now which is pretty pointless for her. The other company is known intimately by kson only corpo she really knows and she’s had collabs with uto. If true it’s pretty comical that the graduation that was supposed to be on good terms is the one trying to backstab them while all the ones that’s been fired bettered themselves, realized they lost a great opportunity and has moved on.

>>46764394
>he hasn't seen Kanata's schizo roommate posts
Sorry anon but she is literally a schizo. She also made Kson tell everyone she lived alone and went out of her way to never appear on her streams, even her voice.

>>46773628
>Nazuna herself doesn't have a 3D model
because she didn't buy one yet
>>46773673
fuck off, kson has never collabed with or even mentioned uto

>>46768855
>Vtubing industry starts with Kizuna A
>she's not into any of the retarded shit you groan on about
>she collabs with vshojo and male youtubers
>everyone likes it
>goes out as a legend, remembered by all as the mother of vtubing
No one give a fuck about your retarded idol shit you think runs the industry in one corner of the world. It's over.

>>46773628
>Nazuna herself doesn't have a 3D model,
I don't think you understand how this works. Nazuna could have half a dozen 3D models by now if she wanted to, it's her choice. It's not like Hololive where you just have to twiddle your thumbs waiting for it to be "your turn".

As far as no new members, just wait. They've said repeatedly that there will be more JP members very soon.

>>46768863
>>46769725
Gunrun does a lot of tech shit. All the fancy ipad shit is largely him. That extends beyond vtubers tho. IRL streamers in general credit Gunrun a lot of the time. He helps behind the scenes with a lot of vtubers no employed by him as well with anything they need if they just ask or they're in the area of a big even and they run into each other. Lot of stories have come out about that. Unironically how Kson hooked up with Vshojo in the first place.

>>46764307
She debuted as Kson in October and first vshojo collab was November. I could be wrong but she ‘coincidentally’ met gunrun in February i know it’s first 3 months. This meeting led to vshojo jp in June. 2-4 months was all it took for her to not only want to join but instead take over a jp branch where she’d bring in established corpos and indies if this is all true. Definitely shows money is more important than she let on. Also funny that almost every vshojo member had to fall under a second umbrella to actually get sponsors

>>46773479
I'm glad you realize it came true in the end and /vt/ are the only people that give a shit.

>>46766160
It will also show if you’re being attacked vshojo or its members won’t actually defend you.

>>46771817
>>46773628
Vshojo doesn't have a japanese branch for talent. Only a branch for the corporate part. The talents are all considered just one branch which is "Vshojo." This was eastablished early on in that they wouldn't have generations and it's why you'll notice that none of them go by "Name EN" or "Name JP"
See how they're all listed together in the talent section on the website.
https://www.vshojo.com/talent
I imagine whoever started the idea that they would be seperate was based on how hololive and nijisanji is run

>>46774104
Kson has been around since 2018 bro

>>46773687
So you’re just going to lie yes she never appeared on stream because she doesn’t want her face out there that’s actually normal. They talked about living together constantly though even bringing up that she accidentally woke her up screaming which is why she didn’t end up late to her own stream. When kson screams you can hear her make a noise in the background. Kanata says she got her gift kson then wears that gift on stream. Kanata is no less schizo then the Lincoln of vtubing.

>>46773971
>muh hololive
Pikamee was in VOMS and straight up changed artist once, she very well had as much freedom as vshojo and probably even more freedom than nazuna considering she can't stream on youtube
>As far as no new members, just wait. They've said repeatedly that there will be more JP members very soon.
2 more weeks right?

>>46761487
Are you out of your fucking mind? The only thing we want is to see our cute little daughteru again being happy and doing what she likes to do, you moron. Whether she joins Vshojo, or any other company, or she redebuts as an indie is not an issue.

>>46774359
>Vshojo doesn't have a japanese branch for talent. Only a branch for the corporate part.
You didn't watch Kson's interview with the JP Branch President, and that's why you don't know how retarded you sound.

>>46774571
Nazuna streaming on twitch doesn't have anything to do with vshojo. That's an issue from her previous employer. Likely isn't going to last forever.

>>46774571
>she can't stream on youtube
Considering Pika outright stopped streaming on Twitch altogether, that's a strike against she joining them.

>>46774792
Please feel free to link it then fag

>>46774893

It's on her membership. Pay up

I'm not watching VShojo no matter how hard you shill it

Talent freedom is a lie btw

>>46773931
Notice the windmills you’re fighting not a single thing you said relates to what that anon said because VOMs isn’t about idol.
>Kizuna Ai* technically hasn’t graduated but nobody calls her the mother of vtubing.
>Kizuna Ai was under more corporate control than any current vtuber organization.
>Kizuna Ai herself rebranded as an idol.
>Kaguya Luna was up there and comparable to her also an Idol
>Sora/Mito would be Ai’s mother for trail blazing the path for vtubers that even Ai followed
>Everyone i said is Japanese including Ai
>Gura is the number 1 vtuber with notoriety equal to Ai
You’re stupid

>>46774858

That's just a Nazuna thing, it's literally not even coming from Vshojo. Again, this was explained in the membership stream/interview none of you watched.

>>46773687
The one where she had a depressive episode during her onsen collab because there was hours of dead air and she thought she could've done way better to make it exciting? Kanata is always obsessed with maximizing her content and not just drifting through her streams but making things memorably fun. That's why she idolizes Pekora as a content creator. Has nothing to do with minimizing the cross-company conflict of interest and keeping her beloved Hololive priority #1.

>>46774847
Nothing to do with that it’s a mistake in her contract with vshojo or she’s dumb. Only twitch and YouTube can keep you from streaming on their platforms.

>>46774507
Kanata said she lived with Coco/yuujin/whatever but kson told everyone she lived alone, even though EOPs in chat constantly asked about her roommate. You apparantly never watched her so opinion discarded.

>>46770464
The difference is Rushia and Kson were fired. Pikamee chose to graduate for a bigger bag. Kinda shallow, considering that gave her the platform she has and treated it as if it was from harassment.

>>46775155
>Nothing to do with that it’s a mistake in her contract with vshojo or she’s dumb
Anon how many times do you have to be told that there's an interview out there with information that you don't have before you understand?

>>46775210
>Kson
>fired
what

>>46761487
Ok tranny, keep seething

>>46774115
She had 2 birthdays, a redebut, an anniversary, a concert, 2 outfit reveals, and 2 I’m depressed give me money streams. This is still less than her first year as Coco and her last 6 months as Coco. She also didn’t join vshojo till July which is when people were getting upset with her.

>>46774948
Nice evidence fag

>>46775282
Kguard schizos justify their holo anti stance by saying kson was forced out of the company behind the scenes.
>gyaaa help me I can't leech off EN and I don't appear in hologra I'm being forced out!

>>46768368
>worst way possible
Nah, if she had been dating the fag, maybe you'd be right, but she self destructed in the process of proving she didn't
You're also acting as if a lot of people aren't just refusing to watch her after she joined VShojo

>>46774463
Would you prefer I used redebut? It was the context after coco was done.

>>46775367
You can go see for yourself, everyone knows about it except you apparently. Pay up.

>>46775423
>proving she didn't
I still don't understand this.
She proved she tried and failed... You can't let your "gf" try to score behind your back just because she failed hilariously

>>46762051
>zaion
Nah she's blacklisted for sure

>>46775367
NTA but it is. She hyped up the stream before it happened and said an edited version would be available publicly later but it hasn't come out yet.

>>46775192
Friend C called by Kanata and PJK called by Kson. Pajama Kid because of Kanata fashion sense. Let’s say you weren’t wrong why assume it’s Kanata and not Kson herself that doesn’t want to mention her. If kanata is willing to mention her why is it also her fault kson won’t

>>46774956
>call him an idol fan and he laughs
>call him a holonigger and he laughs
>but mention talent freedom and watch how he reels back in pain and agony, writhing on the floor, heaving for air, trying to shout obscenities at you through his tears

>>46775034
>gura #1
LOL!

>>46775578
Kson never said she lived with PJK. She said PJK was a friend who lived close to her house. She literally said "I don't have a roommate" dozens of times.

>>46775218
The only clip I've seen of Kson talking about Nazuna's situation, she said that there was a NDA with a third party.
Not a NCA (non compete), but an NDA (non disclosure). Basically, she couldn't say.
On top of that, Nazuna's own word seems to suggest that once she debuted on Twitch, she was locked her onto the platform, which seems really weird if it's being caused by Cover. What sort of non compete lets her debut on only a single streaming platform?
It sounds far more likely that it's her contract with Twitch (which is a third party) that's preventing it. Unless you have some hard evidence to contradict it.
Also, Nazuna's YouTube membership just opened up a few days ago, so maybe whatever she has is ending soon? But we have no idea.

>>46775034
>nobody calls her the mother of vtubing
HA
>Kizuna Ai herself rebranded as an idol.
>didn't care about idol rules
holy based

>>46775487
I'm not timelooping this "discussion", but literally every timeloop of this conversation ends up with multiple people pointing out why that would make no sense

>>46775674
twitch exclusivity contracts are extremely rare and the only person i know of that has one is connor, and he can speak openly about it

>>46775349
>here's a whole bunch of bullshit for why kson being in the top 10 highest money making vtubers of 2022 doesn't matter
walk away from the screen nigga

>>46775674
Anon it's in the interview. A question is literally "why can't Nazuna stream on youtube" and the CEO says it's not vshojo's fault but rather a contract with some other party that's under NDA.

And no it's not twitch before you cope with that. Twitch literally advertises their exclusive contracts. Youtube does too. See the TimtheTatman ads.

>>46775803
I don't watch Connor, so I'll take your word for it
But it still doesn't explain Nazuna. Mikeneko can stream on both YouTube and Twitch. Presumably because she's an indie (still bigger than Nazuna, which is kind of funny)
And if it was Cover's non-compete, how long would that last? I had assumed a year, but we're already going into the 14th month post termination and she still can't stream on YouTube. Or at the very minimum, the last time she confirmed that she couldn't was in March, which is when a one year non compete should have expired in her case.

>>46775879
The Hololive contract grandfathers in existing personas and only restricts new ones, which is why we have Kson, Delta, and Mike, but only Nazuna has problems. Seems obvious to me.

>>46775873
Alright, that only confuses matters further then.
One thing to note is, if Nazuna is to be believed, she's stated twice now that she had a choice as to whether to debut on either Twitch or YouTube. It sounds like she was talked into debuting on Twitch, and now she seems to regret this because she realised that the Japanese are far slower to adopt the platform than she had expected.
I would assume if anyone convinced her to debut on Twitch, it was VShojo themselves since every girl streams there and the bosses of the org have ties.

>>46775674
If it was a contract with Twitch, there would be no problem talking about it openly. The only explanation that explains the secrecy is that is was part of some kind of settlement with Cover.

>>46774792
The funniest part is JPBP clearly not understanding how Gunrun and the girls had the agency set up. It's like having corpo talk for a tiny band.

>>46775218
Companies especially one as small as Hololive can not impose a rule or law against her that YouTube or twitch would have to uphold. America can’t even impose such a rule. No court American or Japanese would dispute this. As long as you don’t violate their terms anyone can stream on these platforms. Twitch YouTube and Rumble do offer exclusivity if you so choose, but only if that is taken will you have to be only on their platform. Ergo she/vshojo did it to her or she’s dumb. Unless the interview is with the head of Twitch Youtube Google Amazon and Hololive it has no bearing on anything.

>>46761487
They won't turn on Pikamee until they realize she's not a transphobe when Vshojo Pikamee says anything that supports trans rights.

>>46775879
Could be that something about the contract can be interpreted as not vtubing specifically for another company on Youtube, so Mike on YT and Nazuna on twitch are both ok but Nazuna on YT is not
It is a really weird situation overall, but it might be timed to the fiscal year which just ended so we'll have to see what she does with Nazuna's YT channel

>>46775993
Possibly, but that arrangement would be utterly nonsensical if that was the case.
Again, Nazuna said she could have debuted on either, but once she did, she was locked to that platform. I don't see what Cover has to gain from locking her onto one and only one platform
If the contract was "you can't stream on YouTube", that would actually make more sense to me as the Holos mostly stream there. But Nazuna said she could have debuted on YouTube instead.

>>46776122
As I said, according to Nazuna, it was debuting on Twitch that locked her to that platform with the implication being that she had a choice between Twitch or YouTube. That's what makes it all the more confusing.

>>46776137
Are you sure the thing about her presenting it as a choice is what she actually said and not just a quirk of the translation?

>>46775803
Dr Disrespect had one and his came with a NDA

>>46775814
You said nobody cared I showed despite all of that she received less sc then as Coco so some people cared what is confusing about that. I didn’t bash her I just showed why you are factually incorrect

>>46775987
>if Nazuna is to be believed, she's stated twice now that she had a choice as to whether to debut on either Twitch or YouTube
The simplest explanation would be to not believe her, she is telling a white lie because "I'm debuting on twitch only at the moment because of contractual obligations with a third party" doesn't sound fun.

Whenever the time is up and she can use youtube again she's probably going to say "yay I decided to finally try streaming on youtube" rather than spelling out the boring legal details.

>>46776204
Well, it was two separate streams, months apart, that carried the implication.
The first was a meltdown stream in September. A few other hints that there was a choice was that she was complaining about how the Japanese wouldn't move over to Twitch and she basically said
>if I knew what I knew now, I wouldn't have debuted on Twitch
And then the second stream in March sort of also confirmed that the debut locked her in

>>46776369
That would make sense if she said it on debut. But it's the fact that she's still saying the same thing several months later and outright saying that she can't stream on YouTube now
She hasn't danced around the question. It's just
>oh, but I can't right now...

>>46761425
>Mirai
>go from being the TRUE corporate vtuber with little room to breathe
>to vshojo

Talk about diving into the deep-end

>>46775873
They don’t have to advertise exclusive contract, no business unless government related in America can keep an employee off of the platform, and absolutely 0 can do it to someone that isn’t an employee. Twitch payed someone hundreds of millions for exclusivity and then fired him in a few months while banning him. Youtube banned the president. I’m sure hololive has the standing to get Google or Amazon to uphold a silly rule that goes against their terms of service when even the President and Their own golden goose couldn’t. Gunrun could have lied about it not being his fault or she’s signed twitch exclusivity without realizing. Occam’s razor

>>46775294
talking to yourself subhuman?

>>46764433
you will die screaming by your own hands

>>46775693
What are Idol rules? Give a breakdown you keep bringing it up. The only organization branded as Idols is Hololive but Suisei, Sora, Towa, and Fubuki all performed and collab with men. Choco goes on dates every week and Kiara Mori and Bae all collabed with vshojo. Nene played a hentai on stream and Noel bragged about her boobs. Gura has talked about cunny and one of Sana’s final streams was mumei getting horny about vtuber lewds. Now that we crossed out dumb shit what are these idol rules?

>>46762118
It was a fucking rented house why wouldn't she move out after being in it for so long, and it's rather inconvenient for them to be in the same home they probably had problems streming

>>46776606
You're right, it's definitely something else and not at all related to a settlement with the YouTube exclusive vtuber streaming company she just left. Everyone else must be lying.

>>46776980
Number one rule of Idol Club is you don't talk about Idol Club. Number two rule of Idol Club is you don't talk about Idol Club.

>>46769669
I still hate how Nazuna was made to not play Hogwarts Legacy.

>>46777156
They lived there for like 6 months

>>46769997
>Go look at the Vshojo general sometime, basically none of the people who hang out there watch the JP branch ever.
lol fuck you
I watched most of Nazuna's streams, as they are in a good time slot for me when I'm at work. Except when the fucking LiveTL extension doesn't work again and I can't put her on TTS. My number one is Nyan and Aethel, but I'd definitely put her in my top5

>>46773687
Holos don't give a shit about vshitshow anon it literally cannot compare to the dust in their feet.
Kson is a bigger scizo here Kanata is abnormal but which holo isn't? Because they are abnormal they stand at the peak of vtubing while the scizo kson can barely compete with the members of holoID

>>46776083
She's a transphobe for liking harry potter wtf.

>>46777316
Is this chatgpt?

>>46773931
We don't give a shit about what you think but you retards are too eager to batk about "idol culture le bad" you started it first

>>46765658
>have twitch account
>get banned for typing something that you’d only see on /pol/
You are a retard

>>46777218
And I'd actually agree if Nazuna didn't imply herself that she had the possibility of debuting on YouTube.

>>46775873
Explain Mikeneko then

>>46775630
I don’t see Kizuna Ai anywhere I thought she was a legend. Are you implying stats padded solely by stream amount is what makes someone #1 or a legend. By your standard Rushia and Kuzuha are the greatest vtubers in the world but more people know Ai and even more know Gura. How do you know super chats are their only earnings and why do you think it’s her biggest. Gilbert Arena’s had a higher salary in his career than Michael Jordan but have you even heard this name before? Despite making more Gilbert’s networth is 20 mil and Jordan is a billionaire.

>>46777296
Hah, fair enough. Thumbs up bro.

>>46775663
Again why do you put it on Kanata if she’s ok with mentioning her as her roommate.

>>46776980
These retares don't understand that the hololive girls are trying to redefine the word idol, just let them seethe

>>46777766
She has a history of schizo behavior. Kson talks openly about her friends except for that one.

>>46761487
Not enough people watched Pikamee to give a shit.

>>46777218
I’m right because there are laid out rules that have to adhere to laws. Or again do you think Hololive a small Japanese corporation has sway over a company ran by Amazon and Google. Also proving you hate them for no reason they aren’t youtube exclusive Miko Lamy Ame Robocco Laplus all use twitch consistently. Almost every member has a twitch account they can choose to use.

>>46761425
No. Unless you have room temp IQ it should have been obvious. It's not clear that it'll mean much of anything for them though. People mostly didn't care about them before they announced their graduations. Pikamee is probably the only one that'll manage any audience out of it.

>>46777703
The obvious answer is vshojo screwed up which has happened before look at the whole doxing debacle or Nazuna screwed up look at everything in the last year. You’d rather believe a Japanese company has sway over American laws and corporations like Amazon than think people who have screwed up once screwed up again

>>46775674
I find it hard to believe cover has the power to take someones streaming rights on YouTube, didn't Mikeneko have a lawyer? If hololive did make her sign such contract it would not be upholdable since it's bullshit that is not legal in laws eyes nor YouTubes eyes, in there first place wouldn't it be weird for her whole company to stream on twitch while she stremes on YouTube? It might be a Twitch thing although it's hard to believe gunrun was a very early employee on twitch he should be able to get an exclusive deal for nazuna no?

>>46778240
they wouldn't need to involve amazon or google in order to sue a japanese person for breaking a contract that she signed

>>46778046
They talked openly before and even showed off the hotel they went to on a trip with the exact same picture perspective. Maybe they aren’t friends anymore, maybe she doesn’t want her business out there, maybe kson thinks the stories aren’t interesting. It could literally be anything and it could be on Kson’s end

>>46778240

Anon, you fucking retard, nowhere has anyone implied that Cover has power over over Twitch or Youtube. That's not how noncompetes or similar type of agreements work. The way they work is that Cover will directly sue Vshojo/Nazuna for breaking the agreement.

Now, generally non-competes don't have a long history of being enforceable, but it's still a hell of a lot easier to go along with it than it is to try and fight out in court.

Pikamee will be fine in Vshojo, everyone makes mistakes

>>46778240
I am saying cover dosent have power to not let her stream on YouTube anon...

>>46775814
Hated is too strong, but she's already having a significant dip this year. Down to roughly 2k CCV, SCs are basically half of what they were, etc. Vshojo certainly isn't helping market their brand and she's largely fading away from conversations in Holo circles.

>>46775663
>kanata and kson never lived together
wtf am I reading?

>>46778494
Holo hater who is high on talent freedom, he believes all holofans will die in 5 years

>>46778327
They would when the violation is on their platform and they didn’t ban her. It’s why terrorist can meet up on Twitter and Discord and why YouTube used to have decapitations. They make the terms and service if you aren’t in violation anyone is welcome no company or country can keep you off. On the flip side they can kick you off or ban you for jaywalking.

>>46773931
Nobody would give a shit if people like Veibae didn't actively go around shitting on Hololive with her headcannon and various rrattings. Don't want to get called cancerous then keep your opinions to yourself retard.

>>46775630
Even if they might be a retard for claiming that, you're definitely one for swinging that chart around, anon.

>>46761425
>wordswordswords
FUCK VSHOJO

>>46761487
Vshojo derangement syndrome

>>46778484
>largely fading away from conversations in Holo circles
i fucking wish you people would shut up about her

>>46778494
Someone who actually watches streams

>>46778652
Uh...I don't watch Vei, so maybe you can remind me when exactly was the last time she's mentioned hololive in any context? From the way you're seething, it surely must have been very recent.

>>46778845
Where the fuck are you hanging out? Reddit?

>>46779160
...here?

>>46778349
>>46778412
This isn’t Apple stopping you from working as an engineer at Android. This would only stop Nazuna from working under vshojo not streaming on a separate platform otherwise mike would be a problem. But lets say you’re right though she was Terminated in February last year and her debut as Rushia was June or July 2019. Either way she wouldn’t be able sign the contract again in time meaning a non compete would already be over last month or this month. If she becomes able to stream on YouTube anytime after July you’ll see it was twitch or vshojo side.

>>46778484
>2k CCV
That's because Twitch is a huge nerf.
She's still down viewers, but she draws 4k on YouTube as Mike. One of the very rare cases where the Indie is more popular than the corpo identity.

>>46779157
I don’t watch vei but silver did last year and I remember because it was on catalog every time the article updated.

Pikamee didn't leave because management was bad. She just had enough of vtubing and antis.

>>46775529
retards said this about rushia because of 'muh NDA' and the supposed 'leaks'. Other corpos don't care

>>46779157
Vei did before she joined Vshojo and doubled down on it during the canceled Kiara collab, occasional talent freedom shit that Silvervale also parroted in her article where she shat on Holo as being inauthentic several months back. It's nothing new and has gone a long way toward poisoning impressions for years. I have no sympathy when people take shots at vshojo anymore.

>>46779328
The biggest streamers are on twitch and they don't have the same cancerous culling that Youtube has, so I don't know how it's a huge nerf.

>>46780952

It's a nerf if you have a primarily Japanese audience, is what I think he was trying to say.

>>46780177
>Other corpos don't care
JP corpos definitely do, but it's moot when talking about vshojo.

>>46781004
I think it's a bit more complicated than that. Maybe
specifically a vtuber thing.

>>46761487
Without the gyari model Pikamee is a who in a sea of nobodies

>>46761487
nobody cares, she's doing vshojo content anyway with her spamming reaction videos. like, whatever she does, is of no consequence to anyone /here/.

>>46781799
Her best models where the non Gyari ones

Pikamee and Mirai Akari I can understand but Uto? She doesn't have to graduate to join VShojo unless she's under some secret contract that would prevent her from doing so. I think she's just fuckin dead bro

>>46776474
Perhaps she did have a choice:

1) debut sooner, but on Twitch
2) debut over a year later, but on YouTube

>>46781215
>/#/fags always railing on "MUH CULLING"
>YouTube vtubers overwhelmingly perform better than Twitch ones

>>46781215
Both a Vtuber thing and a "anyone not FPS focused" thing
Nazuna's average viewership is 2.5k. This would be quite small on YouTube, but this still makes her one of the biggest Japanese Vtubers on Twitch. There are only 10 streamers on the entirety of JP Twitch who, to my knowledge, have an average CCV of 10k+. Not Vtubers. Streamers.

>>46783415
I tested it out with several other people. We joined a stream that only had 1 viewer and only 1 of us showed up, and I even have premium. Cull is real and user based. Good luck if your account gets tagged as suspicious. You'll never appear in the front facing numbers.

>>46783524
Twitch viewers are more valuable than Youtube viewers. There's more ways to monetize people on Twitch that are accepted and normalized and frequently done. Aethel talked in the past about making more when he was averaging 300 viewers on Twitch than he was at his full time teaching job.

>>46761758
Happy Easter, anon. Do some charity the rest of this week, and no, I do not mean superchats.

>>46761487
fucka you ill take my new brand kettle

>>46783666
Okay and why would your account be flagged as "suspicious" do you think?

>graduates pikamee
>immediately have to rebuild her audience
>make less money and have less brand recognition
i mean if she does it she's a retard and deserves to be in vshojo

>>46783697
Ludwig talked about this as well. There's a good video that he did after his 1 year after switching to YT and he talked about the benefits and pitfalls from his perspective on the switch. Now, he's a unique case that applies only to himself, but it is interesting.

>>46783697
LMAO, no. Advertiser hate Twitch, due to its demographics the kind of product that can meaningful reach an audience is very limited. Youtube on the hand can peddle pretty much anything.

>>46783850
Too much youtube during covid era, moving from stream to stream with a lot of people during karaoke relays before raids were added, who knows? I'm not fucking Youtube.

>>46783697
You could be a 2 view on twitch and make more money as long as you have oilers, that doesn't prove shit.

>>46783973
>Advertiser hate Twitch
Which advertiser? Doesn't matter, the rest don't seem to care.

>>46783973
I'm sure you're right anon, and the simple fact that 99% of non-corpo vtubers, prefer Twitch over Youtube is just an irrelevant data point. Let's also ignore that the vast majority of Youtube's biggest non-corpo names come in the form of people who are permabanned from Twitch, or people who were given massive paydays to stream on Youtube exclusively away from their primary platform. People who didn't go by choice, but because they had to, or because they were given a huge financial incentive to.

>>46786378
He said advertisers, not vtubers.

>>46786504
And the post he's replying to is about the streams being more profitable to the streamers themselves, nothing to do with advertisers.

>>46777703
>>46775977

>>46783973
Advertising actually pays way way better on twitch than it does on youtube. I follow some 3view streamers and they were able to start streaming full time because they get so much money from ads now. I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about.

>>46783973
my man unironically thinks a platform ran by amazon is hated by advertisers kek

>>46766101
Kill yourself tranny

>>46783895
>brand recognition
I FUCKING HATE CONSOLE WAR FAGGOTS

>>46774115
what in the fuck people watch the nijien males. what the fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

>>46761758
I kneel

>>46761487
>if

>>46782029
Isekai Pika was garbage. Zero charm.
Black Pika was cool

>>46784310
Not wrong Aletta from kawaii made 50k off 3 people

>>46761487
hahahahahaaha

no

>>46774640
300% THIS

>>46761425
If they're planning to do a 5 person group though, who are the other two talents gonna be? Is there anybody else even left? The JP manager said they only want to recruit proven talent at the moment, right?

>>46761487
RORU RUMAO even. It's a tiny minority of complete retards that care.

>>46761551
Because Pika is way more sensitive than Kson and can't handle hate
This will not end well if it happens

>>46769257
give it 6 months and she will sell out like kson, thats why sadge

Wasn't Pikamee basically the unofficial CEO of VOMS? Wouldn't she be losing money by joining a different company? I don't actually know anything about the subject, I'm legit asking.

>>46796272
>Wasn't Pikamee basically the unofficial CEO of VOMS?
No? She was more popular than everyone else in VOMS put together, but she was still just a member.

>>46783850
My account is "culled" and the unusual qualities it has are a very high number of subscriptions (because it's very old), almost no comments, and the only million+ subscriber channels I ever watch are Hololive girls. What got me flagged might have nothing to do with that. Nobody at Youtube knows what their code is doing anymore, and they wouldn't tell us if they did.

Say it like it is without hyperbole, people won't hate her for coming back, at least not for long.

Everyone will just hate that she tagged along vshojo instead of going indie because it WOULD be a fucking waste.

>>46780883
>Silvervale also parroted in her article where she shat on Holo as being inauthentic several months back
lol damn bro I don't think you ever read the OG article

>>46777713
These are for 2022 homie. It's like wondering why Hulk Hogan isn't on 2022's top wrestlers list. Hogan is and was big, but not doing the numbers someone like Cena or Roman are now.

>>46800128
These people are rrat peddlers or rrat poisoned, anon, they don't know anything but what /vt/ards fed them.

>>46778026
They're trying to get rid of idol faggotry? Based.

>>46797509
You get unflagged by clearing your video history.

>>46768171
tick tock

>>46768855
what damage is that exactly? I'm new to all this retard shit of different companies. It seems to me that Vshojo has a very hands off westernized approach of do vtubing and we handle merch and shit. while the other organizations are more "classic" eastern management wherein everything is retarded. again what the fuck do I know I'm new to this vtube shit but I have experience and education in managerial logistics and cross department communication with american and japanese organizations of varying size

It just seems like vshojo allows more creative outlets for the people they are signing on. why wouldn't anyone who wants to go online and roleplay want a deal like that?