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4656909 No.4656909[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

Leeches be bitches. After this he wiped his Twitter and Youtube.

>> No.4657010
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4657010

you left out the last one when he admits defeat

>> No.4657073

So, what was his endgame?

>> No.4657083

I hate leeches so much bro it's unreal.
Ok enough talking about Uto, the guy in OP's pic is pretty silly

>> No.4657098

>>4656909
wow what a fucking retarded, does he even read the fanwork guidelines?

>> No.4657100

who

>> No.4657112

does his channel/twitter/work as holobass precede hololive, or is part of his brand based on cover's success as well?

>> No.4657117

The irony of complaining that she didn't ask if she could use the song for a one time charity stream when he never asked if he could use her voice and profit off it in the first place.

>> No.4657149
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4657149

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_je6fYFlPvswP9doc2JFWg/community?lb=UgwvMpe3cUsNYQgU-4R4AaABCQ
let's all write to him our nice farewells

>> No.4657155
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>>4657073
A cut from the charity

>> No.4657165

RIP pop on rocks, the only good content he ever produced

>> No.4657200

>>4656909
Seething and coping has reached new heights. Good riddance to another peddler of nigger doggerel. maybe he should get a real job instead of making rap remixes out of internet anime women.

>> No.4657214

>>4657098
his most recent video was an hour long video where he went through all the guidelines and complained about how “vague” they are

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4657224

feel old yet?

>> No.4657281

I didn't follow this drama.. what is he demanding? recognition? money?

>> No.4657289

>>4657165
Good thing I already downloaded it

>> No.4657294

>>4657214
All this because he couldn't put up his remixes on Spotify?

>> No.4657303

>>4657281
both

>> No.4657306

This guy was going to copyright strike Ame and fight Cover in a legal battle? What a retard.

>> No.4657320

Faggot will probably attack that Kevin dude who makes Chibi Ame for using his "music"

It will look bad of him if out of all the official cover songs in there alongside other fans like Walfie's art and Kevin himself, dare i say cry about copyright

>> No.4657334

>>4657165
it's on catbox now
https://files.catbox.moe/1wuspr.webm

>> No.4657347

>>4657214
Let me guess, he was trying to justify making money from it.

>> No.4657355

>>4657112
Funny enough, he had another channel he was successful on for years prior and didn't need to rebrand in the first place. I don't think he said what the channel was tho and yeah his current channel is based on it.

>> No.4657367

>>4657303
if that's so he is a retard. You can't monetize hololive fanwork

>> No.4657368

>>4657294
His belief is that Cover doesn’t own the rights to what the vtubers say so he should be able to monetize music that uses samples of their voices.

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>> No.4657420

Didn't believe this until I checked his youtube and twitter. What leads people to be this entitled and braindead. This just means there's one more faggot going around spreading bullshit about the talents now.

>> No.4657428

Kind of sad that this guy went mental boom, I guess trying to reach cover made him too frustrated. His bandcamp is still up if you want to download some of his stuff for free https://holobass.bandcamp.com/

>> No.4657447

>>4656909
And nothing of value was lost.

>> No.4657454

>>4657368
Usually you get permission for that kind of stuff...

>> No.4657473

>>4657320
Which would be ridiculous since unlike this guy who wants to profit off Hololive remixes, Chibi Ame is just a fun fan game done for nothing. Maybe the creator takes donations I don't know but it is still not being monetized.

>> No.4657483

i am still just awestruck by how nuclear his tantrum was

>> No.4657497

https://www.youtube.com/post/UgwGNil2PaCizIWpcYl4AaABCQ

You know what to do

>> No.4657502

>>4657367
Then how come all those seanigger clip channels are monetized?

>> No.4657559
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4657559

how the hell do ads get approved and go up so quickly?

>> No.4657562

>>4656909
what a FAGGOT. I hope you die from cancer, holo bass shitlord

>> No.4657564

>>4657473
Let's just get ready to dunk on him once he resurfaces or Kevin removes the song because of "reasons"

>> No.4657571

>>4657368
>woooooooooow I can't claim the rights to a song I made by mixing your voice over a public domain beat
Best case is he was trying to leverage for some official recognition or a job, but how did all these greedy fucks see what happened with Marine's doujin artist and think the same stunt would work for them?

>> No.4657612

>>4657454
The thing is he monetized without asking and probably burned a bridge in the process. He just assumed Cover would be fine with it cause he didn’t read the guidelines.
>>4657367
You can but Cover is a lot more strict specifically with music.
The rules outside of music is to not make them or their talents looks bad.

>> No.4657655

>>4657502
yagoo’s home for broken girls also has room to allow the poors from poverty stricken countries to take donations from his lovin company. and idk maybe no ones cares enough to report them to cover.

>> No.4657656

>>4657571
Because cunts like them think its THEIR work that's popular. Not the fact it's popular people looking at mediocre work. Average retard behavior.

>> No.4657673

>>4657502
He obviously pissed someone off at Cover to get shat on. You can tell by the shit personality and tantrums he throws. A normal person would just send a letter or lawyer up to get it resolved with a settlement.

>> No.4657676

>>4656909
What a piece of shit. I hope he kills himself

>> No.4657688

doing meme music is serious business guys. LMAO. Holy fuck, that is so embarrassing.

>> No.4657727

>>4657502
Because for every retard that gets their channel taken down, 10 more show up.
I don't follow any clip channels and my entire recommendations tab on my phone is seanigger clip channels complaining that they lost their monetization in their community tabs.

>> No.4657733

>>4657281
Responses from Cover about why only three or four songs were taken down on Spotify when he had more songs were, in theory, against TOS. Ghosted for two months, no responses. Another story about incompetence from Cover imo. I'm not trying to defend the dude, he should've shut up and deal with it privately but still, pretty shitty to be ghosted for no reason, if Cover had answered in time, this wouldn't have happened

>> No.4657748

>Get shilled here
>Mori notices and shills your song
>Ame hates it and never covers it
>Put into a popular fangame for more shilling
>Ame finally covers it cause her fanbase is retarded with goals
>Dude has a meltdown, takes the offensive then kills himself from the obvious backlash he would get from those threats
well not surprised someone that was pushed by /hlgg/ at the start ended up being a schizo but man... you were pretty stupid of pulling this move at such an important event in Hololive history

>> No.4657756

>>4657612
Yeah that's retarded. At least wait until they respond.

>> No.4657780

It's really the same thing with the fanart too. Most youtubers pay people to make thumbnails but chuubas just rip fanart for free labor basically.

>> No.4657783

He could have used this publicity to talk to cover right?

>> No.4657798

>the chuuba your'e leeching from uses your fanwork in a very important stream
>get's mad because of it
HOW CAN HE BE THIS FUCKING RETARDED?

>> No.4657813

>>4657483
This is nothing compared to Mizuryu Kei's tantrum. Now that was next level bridge burning.

>> No.4657839

>>4657783
That’s what a smart person would do.

>> No.4657864

>>4656909
I really don't understand how the human mind works, lol. This dude was loved and people absolutely loved his remixes and sang his praises everywhere. What he should have done is realize that his Hololive stuff is a fan work and just been happy using it for recognition. Then he could have released his own set of original songs, shilled it to his already big audience, and made bank off of that.

Instead he acts like a total sperg, destroys any good will the fanbase had for him, and just absolutely killed his entire career.

I really don't get people man.

>> No.4657888

>>4657673
Any lawyer would simply read the terms to him and explain it a bit. There's no case and therefore no money.

>> No.4657890

>>4656909
I kinda understand him to be honest, he literally MADE the song and Ame just used it in a really important event without even asking him or mentioning him, he was thrown away like trash of course he's mad about it

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4657900

yikes

>> No.4657906

>>4657780
Generally artists are fine with vtubers using their artwork as long as they credit them.

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4657915

Imagine trying to steal and threaten to shut down a charity stream

You literally cannot get more stupid even if you tried

>> No.4657916

>>4657355
Post the other channel

>> No.4657920

>>4657798
This pisses me off because it will likely mean that most fan content is off limits now unless they go through the whole process of asking for permission and more than likely the girls won't even bother for a meme song.

>> No.4657922

>>4657571
>public domain beat

WHAT? So he owns nothing and was expecting money for copy pasting sounds?

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4657927

>>4657733
t.Holo bass

>> No.4657926

>>4657733
Nigger are you fucking retarded? Cover is in their full right to copyright strike him. The holos contracts probably state that cover owns everything on their channels so he can't sample their fucking voices. He could have fucking hired a lawyer to tell him this simple fact.

>> No.4657929

i can already see Ame never giving attention to fanwork again

>> No.4657931

>>4657502
They don't complain to cover over not getting a salary for their clip compilations.

>> No.4657947
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4657947

That song was overrated anyway

>> No.4657949

>>4657733
Keep in mind this is according to him only. There is never any evidence provided that he attempted to contact cover or that cover ever got his message. This is why people get a lawyer for this kind of shit.

The fag literally come here on /vt calming a one sided story to try and get sympathy in hopes that people here would put pressure on cover for him. Literal scum.

>> No.4657962

>>4657780
Chuubas using fanart is allowed and I dont know why you have this retarded take on it.

>> No.4657964

>>4657798
Reminds me of that one girl who did the Haachama song and after Haachama actually used it in one of her lore streams she was happy as fuck. That is how you handle that kind of situation.

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4657991

ame's reaction is up

>> No.4658005

>>4657733
lol
lmao

>> No.4658022

Why does Ame attract all the leeches?

>Sameface Uto and Nabi
> Gura sucking her tit and clit

Now this bitch

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4658033

>>4657155
Hopefully Kiara gets a cut of that charity stream. One of its biggest selling points was her idea.

>> No.4658055

>>4657916
Idk what it is. He mentioned it in one of his descriptions. For all I know he was lying for clout.

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4658057

He started in the horsefucker community. I'm not surprised at all

>> No.4658075

>>4657906
Even if they don't credit you for whatever reason, you can always tweet them and thank them for using your work and get recognized for it. Don't be a sperg and more people will follow you because of the attention.

>> No.4658085

>>4657890
You can't be defending this fucking dude. Did he get permission to use Ame's voice?

>> No.4658090

What is it about vtubers that attracts hyper schizos?

>> No.4658089

>>4657964
Isn’t she one of the predictions for Vsinger now?

>> No.4658094

>>4657926
The dude was broke as fuck and the TOS were pretty vague about the things he needed to know. I'm trying to be reasonable but this is 4chan, so I don't what I want to accomplish

>> No.4658101

Isn't pop on rocks a Dr. Seuss rhyme? Why is he even whinnying?

>> No.4658111

>>4657355
We need the other channel, he is running away from the old one and he hasn't had enough shit yet

>> No.4658115

I can't wait for this Vtuber shit to die in a few months.

>> No.4658148

>>4656909
The music industry is so autistic with copyright it is so dumb I blame Metallica when they went after Napster

>> No.4658159

>>4658094
>TOS were pretty vague
Fucking kill yourself Holobass

https://en.hololive.tv/terms

This isn't vague.

>> No.4658170

>>4658111
The other channel doesn't have stuff related to vtubers, his subs ther wouldn't understand anything

>> No.4658172
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4658172

I'm glad that my oshi's fanbase are actually passionate about her and only make music for fun instead of guising it as a way to make profit.
https://youtu.be/lKEqU2itOiw

>> No.4658197

>>4657890
Hi holobass

>> No.4658200

>>4657906
>>4657962
Even with their permission it's still free labor. Most youtubers would get in shit if they found out that they had people doing this work for them for free.

>> No.4658205

>>4657949
Would he actually listen to a lawyer telling him he has no complaint or case at all? I would hope so but once people start to get delusional it can be hard.

>> No.4658214
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4658214

You make fun of Prince in a sketch and he'll just use you in his album cover. … What am I going to do — sue him for using a picture of me dressed up like him?

>> No.4658224

>>4658094
>the TOS were vague
Uhh yeah most corporate shit is. Him being “broke as fuck” doesn’t justify monetising a company’s intellectual property. Maybe he should get a fucking job if he was indeed “broke as fuck”.

>> No.4658229

>>4657559
Dollar dollar, me love you long time

>> No.4658235

>>4656909
"PERFORMED" not "played" original key words here, he has no power and being greedy now is going to get him burried like Marine's ALT artist.
WHAT IS WITH THESE KIDS?

>> No.4658244

>>4657890
there's a nonzero chance he'd lose in court against a claim that his instrumental is a derivative work of her vocal performance. he could come out of trial with pop on rocks owned entirely by cover and the dr. seuss estate.

>> No.4658253

>>4658214
big true fax right here
straight up

>> No.4658273

>>4658094
on top of a leech he's also dyslexic, what a surprise

>> No.4658275

>>4657890
Understanding fair use is on thing. But the way he acts in throwing a tantrum and not waiting patiently to go through the normal channels is the problem. Two weeks ago he even tryer to get /vt to be his personal army to harass streamers in hopes that cover will respond faster to his stupid dispute instead of hiring a lawyer. The guy is no talent cheap hack.

>> No.4658293

>>4658172
Based Omiya, the first one who sampled a holo wait scratch that

There's this dude as well
https://youtu.be/NQfOusQgu40

How pathetic Holob(ass)

>> No.4658303

>>4656909
TLDR : The guys using Ame voice as voice bank and try to monetized it.

>> No.4658315

>>4657780
>>4657906
When an artist submits fanart to the chuubas tags they automatically give them permission to use it, crediting the artist is a courtesy.

>> No.4658333

>>4658101
Not sure for Fox In Sock. Some dr.seuss rhymes aren't public domain so cover would have had to get permission/pay money to publisher for ame to even read that rhyme.

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>>4657890
No, holobass, stop and think about it: you're wrong. You don't own shit.

>> No.4658354

>>4658170
Still a few bots with downvotes and a few comments should be a fair trade for his retardation

>> No.4658374

>>4658115
Ok Holobass

>> No.4658377

pop on rocks has been removed from the meme trinity

now there is only koro funk and watamelon rap

>> No.4658378

At the very least when it comes to fanart, there's an agreement listed under Cover's fanwork policy that the Holos can use it for anything they want with or without permission. Of course asking for permission is nice but Cover is very upfront about all of this and the artists understand. This should extend to music, right? This guy should have been aware and not thrown a fit, let alone expected to be paid for a secondary work.

>> No.4658388

Wow, the libtards really are deleting all of Dr. Suess's stuff. It's finally reached VTubing.

>> No.4658429
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>>4658172
DOOG LOVE

>> No.4658432

>>4658200
No they fucking don't. Holos all credit their fanart they use anyways. And youtubers have used stuff fans sent to them for free.

>> No.4658452

>>4657733
>for no reason

>> No.4658475

>>4658200
Who is asking artists to do free labor? They don't have to draw anything at all unless they get commissioned to do so but they will also get less attention if they don't regularly put out good work that people like and makes them want to contract the artist out for more work. And putting up someone's work for one stream is not really the same thing as being a new permanent part of the stream for all time. There is a reason Okayu asked permission from that guy who made her song's BGM if she could use it while reading superchats but she won't do that while advertising some guy's comic.

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4658476

I gotta give the guy credit, at least he eventually realized how bad all this looks and knew his "career" was over.

>> No.4658495

>>4658315
While this is true, it is kind of rude to not credit the artist if you like their work enough to use it. Granted, if this ever happened to me, I would probably just be a little upset for a while rather than have a complete breakdown over it.

>> No.4658505

>>4658377
Watamelon rap is made by Watame too!

>> No.4658525

Red Alice did a ton of Hololive remixes and a lot of the girls use them on their streams. He was never a sperg about it. Learn from your elders Holobass you fucking sperg.

>> No.4658531

now that historic charity stream will probaly be privated thanks to a jobless leech, i hope the he kills himself

>> No.4658536

>>4658432
Some of them even commission their fan artists for stuff.

>> No.4658538

>>4657368
We haven't seen Ame's contract, but given that Cover is a black company, they likely own everything she says on stream. And even if they don't, Ame does.
And there's nothing wrong with what he does, as long as you don't sell it. Sampling is usually a matter of 1. asking for permission or 2. stealing in a way that doesn't get you noticed.
There's loads of remixes of popular songs out on 500 to 1000 run, white label vinyl, if you look for them. But nobody gets sued, because they're obscure and irrelevant enough.
This is NOT applicable hete.

Making a smash hit song on youtube means you either ask for permission and maybe pay for the rights or don't take compensation outside of donations.
Asking for forgiveness is always wrong.

>> No.4658550

>>4658432
> Holos all credit their fanart they use
Only Polka does this. Pick any girl and within her last 7 videos where she uses fanart and half wont have a credit or a link back to the artist.

>> No.4658552

>>4658115

I give it a few weeks, since the world opens again and everyone dies lol. It for the best lmao

>> No.4658585

>>4657964
The whole haachama/haaton situation is pretty damn cool, with the way fanart and fan narratives get included in whatever random schizo storyline she's working on.

>> No.4658596

>>4658377
Replace Pop on rock with Heiakim Aqua remix

This one precedes all those meme songs as well

>> No.4658602

>>4658550

4chan can't handle the truth: Vtubers ain't shit but hoes and tricks

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>>4656909
Never come back again, holobass. Your music was mediocre at best.

>> No.4658613

>>4658452
He had more songs in Spotify using voice samples of Hololive and Cover didn't do anything about that. Only 4 songs were taken down

>> No.4658616

>>4658531
If this happens I will make sure he is never able to surface on the internet again. Marine and Miko's Tokimeki Memorial play through is still private because of a fucking sperg and that shit was kino as fuck. Still pissed about that.

>> No.4658625

i can't wait to see the day Cover will go full Disney and start purging every single leech channel on youtube

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4658629

I honestly can't believe the gall of this stupid motherfucker. He wants the people he sampled for free who are CONTRACTED WITHIN A COMPANY, without their permission, to ask for permission to use his songs that he made without their consent as a FANWORK. Christ, this motherfucker is a top shelf moron.

>> No.4658635

>>4658550
Holobass... please stop being retarded for once...

>> No.4658647

>>4658022
Take your fucking meds, Nabi of all people deserves to "leech" her own daughter if she wants literally half of Ame's success is her appearance so yeah Nabi deserves that, which doesn't matter she barely mentions Ame or even shows up in her streams. Ame owes a bit of her success to Gura who was scouted because how big she was on Twitch and since she already had experience with Ame recommended her

>> No.4658650

May be this guy didn't contact cover in japanese language. Last month, there was a group of nakirigumi who want to sent an artbook (cost a lot of money) to ojou for her 1m celebration. They sent a letter to cover in jp language asking for permission to crowfund the artbook project with benefits to the donators. Cover replied back and rejected the project with the business purposes and profit reasons.

>> No.4658655

>>4658616
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA8cxc37HN4

>> No.4658660

>>4657949
Is it worth checking archives to see the dude being called a faggot in that thread?

>> No.4658661

>>4658538
It's called a job nigger. They could have just not signed the contract if they didn't agree to the terms. Personally I think everyone on this website would agree to having cover own the rights to everything in exchange for being millionaires by playing video games for a few hours every day.

>> No.4658667

>>4658200
Most vtuber fanartists are aware they're doing it for free in the first place, the ((((((((exposure)))))))) is good enough for them.

>> No.4658678

>>4658550
OK, I picked Ame for example and she does credit. They all do.

>> No.4658684

>>4658550
Could you provide any examples? So far three holos have used my art for things and all three gave me credit each time.

>> No.4658692

>>4658625

Well, Cover already sucks off China. They might go full Disney so everyone can dunk on Pisstubers.

>> No.4658697

>>4658200
It's not free labor if the person who made the fan art or song was never solicited to do it in the first place. It's called volunteering, look it up retard.

>> No.4658715

Jesus there's really drama every fucking week in the Hololive community isn't there? I'm glad to be a Nijinigger

>> No.4658741

>>4658115
>>4658552
(You) Holobass

>> No.4658753

>>4658531
that would be very sad, but it won't be lost completely. i've been recording since the start.

Video fragments: 26171; Audio fragments: 26171; Total Downloaded: 13.03GiB

>> No.4658762

>>4658684

So what's your handle then. Prove it or shut up

>> No.4658768

>>4658495
It will be fine, only faggot who never credit an artist here is only a clipfags.

*Most* of
chuuba especially nip chuuba "know" that it's etiquette that you always asking permission first and/or credits the artist later when using the works.

And Hololive never fail to ask permission before using it, but in this case all rights was belong to Hololive so they only credits their works later instead.

>> No.4658788

>>4658538
>but given that Cover is a black company, they likely own everything she says on stream.
what you mean is "given the well-understood legal concept of 'work for hire', Cover own all of her performances."

>> No.4658790

>>4658692
Lol they literally nuked their Chinese branch. holobass please stop you’re embarrassing yourself.

>> No.4658821

>>4658741

Stop getting baited lol

>> No.4658823

>>4658550
>Only Polka
Do you just pull shit out of your ass

>> No.4658826

Why is it always the music and doujin fags who act like entitled little twits?

>> No.4658831

>>4658538
>Cover
>Blackcompany

Only Veibafags keep push this.

>> No.4658845

>>4658692
This might be the single most retarded newfag post I read on this entire board. Even reddit would know this.

>> No.4658865

>>4658692
>China
are you living in a cave?

>> No.4658864

>>4658821
>>4658790

4chan is still easy to troll lol

>> No.4658867

It's kinda weird that there's a shitstorm going on while people are still enjoying Ame's stream.

>> No.4658877

>>4658692
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Holobass please

>> No.4658885

>>4658753
Thank you, teamate. I’m assuming all the HoloEN have dedicated enough fans that someone somewhere is making up backups of most of their streams.

>> No.4658888 [DELETED] 

Please post his main channel, this faggot deserves hell

>> No.4658892

>>4658753
Yeah, and that is cool. I downloaded the Marine/Miko Tokimeki stream as well. That isn't the point though. It deserves to be on their channel and they deserve to get the views credit for it. Yeah, I know, numberfagging, but it's work they put in and they should be recognized for it.

>> No.4658896

>>4658831
black company more like blacked company

>> No.4658903

Holobass stop whining like a retarded bitch in the thread, this is embarassing

>> No.4658913

>>4658845
>>4658821

>> No.4658917

>>4658885
chumbud, but i like ame too

>> No.4658924 [DELETED] 

>>4658888
He already deleted fucking everything after nobody agreed with him on twitter.

>> No.4658933

>>4658864
>Unironically doing 'I was only pretending to be retarded' in the year of our lord 2021

>> No.4658950

Imagine getting freely advertised for your free content and getting mad about it. What a retard

>> No.4658953

>>4658867
the shitstorm only happened on the guys, no one really care about it outside this baited threads anyway.

>> No.4658955

>>4658877
>>4658865
>>4658864

>> No.4658975

>>4658864
You can't do the "I was pretending to be retarded" play when you are actually retarded.

>> No.4658976

>>4658762
I'm not trying to be confrontational, my dude, but I'll take that as you admitting that you can't provide even a single example of your claim.

>> No.4658983

>>4658660
No. I will summarize it for you.

>/vt plz help out my friend
>Plz see his linked rant video
>I have no idea what else to do
>only way now is if Anons can bug Ame in chat to get ENma to resolve his issue
>totally no relations to holobase and not in it for the moneys

Response
>ogey
>OP is a fag
>lawyer up cheap fag
>not your personal army
>watemelonpost.jpg

>> No.4658985 [DELETED] 

>>4658924
He has another channel and he is going back to it

>> No.4658990 [DELETED] 

>>4658924
Only literal Søÿmen were agreeing with him.

>> No.4659002

https://twitter.com/holobass_edm2/status/1401362260489125893?s=21
Holy shit he’s based now

>> No.4659009

>>4658933

>Still replaying to the bait and getting passive agressive like the piss coomer they are

>> No.4659013

So now holobass has gone from "debate" to "trolling". What's next, spam? Take a break from the internet.

>> No.4659016

>>4658200
"Free Labour" they did off of their IP. lol. Seems like it's also "free" for them using Hololive IP for clout.

>> No.4659018

>>4658867
The wholesomeness needs to be balanced out so we are having a underground shit flinging

>> No.4659030 [DELETED] 

>>4658924
His main channel (not HoloBass) is still up but I'm not posting because idk if it's considered doxxing

>> No.4659054

>>4658975
>>4658976
>>4658913

>> No.4659055

>>4659030
dude's not a vtuber, he's a fag. do it.

>> No.4659056

>>4659002
Fuck. He's triggered some of the schizos in this shithole. May Neptune have mercy on his soul.

>> No.4659060

>>4659002
Hacked or Cracked?

>> No.4659066

>>4658089
A bit of a late response but I watched her life streams she did after producing the two Chama songs and it didn't seem like she applied for any of those roles. It's a damn shame really, her stuff is pretty great and her voice is nice. She tried to debut as a vtuber but her computer couldn't handle it so she got a new one and is just waiting to do her own thing.

>> No.4659082

>>4657117
That sounds fair

>> No.4659088

>>4658550
Based retard

>> No.4659094

>>4658826

Because fuck Hololive

>> No.4659101

>>4658094
he should have just released original stuff on the channel alongside things like this. sure the cover music would be unmonetized but would draw people to the channel to hear it. only need a certain number of those to go over to the other songs to start making money.
t. Actual former brony and some of the music makers during that time ended up branching into the mainstream off their brony music.

>> No.4659106

>>4658983
Why didn't he just send mori or ame a SC asking if they could get cover to respond to him?

>> No.4659123

>>4659002
Based anon

>> No.4659126

>>4659094
t. holobass

>> No.4659129

>>4659060
just some pedo from here on a new account mocking him

>> No.4659148

>>4658692
Coma chama...

>> No.4659152

>>4659129
Yeah I'm retarded and didn't see the 2.

>> No.4659153

Virgin HoloBass vs Chad REDALiCE

>> No.4659161 [DELETED] 

>>4658950
True. and...

Instead of using the light shining on you and try to jumpstart your career with another works but used the old works that you has rights to and monetized it instead.

And when Cover stop you from monetized their IP then you came back crying wolf.

Welcome to the "Business World" and "How Copyrights works" , chief.

>> No.4659166
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4659166

>>4656909
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tC0DKieA4sk

>> No.4659176

>>4659030
do it faggot

>> No.4659177

>>4659101
Exactly. Creating fan works out of love is fine and all, but you also need your own output as an artist. ORIGINAL things.

>> No.4659180

I don't know anything about copyright law, so I'd appreciate if someone could answer this.
To me, it seems like cover was legally within their rights to take down Holo Bass' song on spotify, since it's a derivative of work owned by them.
Does that mean they have permission to use that derivative work for commercial purposes though? Because that's what Amelia just did and I guess what he's complaining about.

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4659193

>>4658475
Exactly. There's this huge movement in the 'content creation' community that you're completely getting raped in the ass if no one is paying you. The "Fuck you, Pay me" mentality. Naturally this only applies for commissions. Like you're not obligated to make music for Ame if she asks for it for free. It's reasonable to want payment for your work. HOWEVER, these twitter creators have twisted that shit all up to where they have a chip on their shoulder if they make fan art and it happens to get used as content by the original IP owner with credit. Its bordering on sonichu levels of entitlement.

>> No.4659196

>>4658826
It's even doubly ironic since half the time the shit they produce is in itself usually a copyright violation, I bet Pop on Rocks was sampled from another song.

>> No.4659197

>>4656909
How is this controversial? If they don't want to contact him about having his covers on Spotify why should they be able to make money off the music he produced?

>> No.4659202

>>4659002
>didn't actually tag Gura in the post
apply yourself schizo

>> No.4659204

>>4659030
he's not a vtuber do it

>> No.4659210

>>4659002
Look at his handle, it's one of you Schizos

>> No.4659215

>>4659030
Do it anon no one is going to report you

>> No.4659222

>>4659106
Do you think a cheap fag who is resorting to ask /vt to be is personal army is going to spend his own money on a SC?

>> No.4659223

>>4658354
I hope there's a special place in hell for you...

>> No.4659240

>>4658950
True. and...

Instead of using the light shining on you and try to jumpstart your career with another works but used the old works that you has no rights to and monetized it instead.

And when Cover stop you from monetized their IP then you came back crying wolf.

Welcome to the "Business World" and "How Copyrights works" , chief.

>> No.4659246

>>4659180
Short answer, yes, they can do it.

>> No.4659272

Didn't doujin circles and fanbox artists already figure this out a long time ago?

>> No.4659274

>>4657428
kys holobass

>> No.4659297

>>4659223
t.holobass

>> No.4659303

>>4658826
Have you ever heard of the manga scanlation "community"?

>> No.4659326

imagine defending a corporation stealing music from an indie artist

>> No.4659337

>>4659180
They'd get sued to hell by the fucking dr seus estate.
They probably do own everything on Amelia's channel though.

>> No.4659344

Uh did he ask Amelia to use her voice for that song?

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4659351

>>4657559
Rumao, fucking do it fagget

>> No.4659355

>>4659030
This is what he gets for trying to get /vt to harass Ame

>> No.4659356

>>4659197
it's an unmonetized stream. a takedown notice is contact.

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4659366

>>4659210

>> No.4659378

>>4659223
I'll find your other channel fag and believe me you are not going to like it

>> No.4659390

>>4659326
imagine defending a huge stupid faggot

>> No.4659394

>>4659326
Stop posting Holobass, You only look more retarded.

>> No.4659405

>>4658917
You're based as fuck archive anon, never forget it.

>> No.4659406

I don't know why this idiot thought it would be a good idea to try and monetize the Holobass songs. Any time you're using samples (especially as heavily as he did in a bunch of his work) from a company, it's gonna be an issue. Even if its a backing track you made, the song still is based around something the girls said. Especially Pop on Rocks, which on top of that was based on a reading of a Dr Suess book. You have to assume any fanwork is impossible to monetize unless you have explicit permission.

What he should have done is never monetize that content, but use the 'fame' he gained from it to promote completely original songs that he can monetize without worry. I thought that shit was pretty obvious but apparently it was beyond him.

>> No.4659412

>>4658033
>One of its biggest selling points was her idea.
Anon, her idea was great but it was for the 50k goal. I think Ame still would've hit 100k no matter what. Still, bless her for the idea

>> No.4659426

>>4658983
Why didn't he just ask for help on hololive reddit instead of directly contacting cover?

>> No.4659438

>>4659180
>commercial purposes
It’s a fucking charity stream. Amelia isn’t making any money.

>> No.4659441

ITT: 4chaniggas everyone. Malding at bait lol.

>> No.4659440

>>4659326
>stealing music
>the dude just put a royalty free bass over a voice.
>the voice of a member of said company.
>that means, it's still their property.
>so is not stealing.
fag

>> No.4659448

>>4659272
Copyright law in the USA vs Japan are so vastly different from each other whatever works on one side probably falls apart on the other.Legally in the US, using a small amount of "samples" from something you don't own in aan overall unique piece of work is legal (not in Japan), problem is you'd probably have to spend $10,000s to defend that if Cover actually filed a suit (though you'd probably win, no legal fees are not included in most US lawsuits this is actually rare), and then once he won, would be deadass broke.

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4659453

retarded leech can't even read before putting his garbage music on Spotify, he's lucky Cover didn't put charges in his ass

>> No.4659456

>>4659223
you bit the hand that feeds Holobass, and the hand that offered you recognition first was here so enjoy your karma bitch

>> No.4659463

>>4658983
>/vt
PLEASE STOP. I'VE SEEN YOU DO THIS SHIT A COUPLE OF TIMES ALREADY. I ALREADY TOLD YOU TO STOP. I'VE ALSO SAW YOU ON /int/ DOING THE SAME SHIT. PLEASE WRITE IT CORRECTLY YOU STUPID DUMBASS AMERICAN. IT'S /vt/ not /vt

>> No.4659474

>>4658244
Kek I hope this goes to court

>> No.4659486

>>4659426
reddit has been on a roll with telling the leeching clipniggers and fan artists to fuck off, there's no safe haven for them now

>> No.4659493

Imagine being a full fledged business and paying in "exposure". Imagine living in a 1st world country and not supporting derivative works rights. Oh wait, that's because this entire thread is SEA.

>> No.4659496

>>4659197
1. Nobody is making money off his song
2. He doesn't own the vocals in the song

He's a fucking idiot. Fair use does not exist in Japan either, Cover has no need to play nice. Fanworks stop being fanworks when you try to make money off them.

>> No.4659503

>>4657355
>he had another channel he was successful on for years prior and didn't need to rebrand in the first place
The man was doing so well, oof

>> No.4659505

Yea sure holobass is an asshole whatever, anyone knows where I can download his stuff though ? Bandcamp doesn't have a lot and I can't download everything through soundcloud

>> No.4659528

>>4659326
Holobass there's times where COVER has fucked up "Mel manager" "Aloe" and /vt/ went livid but then there's times like this where the only reason i'm not going to defend them is because they haven't done enough to you, removing the song from spotify isn't enough they need to ruin your whole career. >>4659453

>> No.4659535

>>4659438
it doesn't really matter if Ame is making money or not, the content was played in a stream for monetary reasons.

>> No.4659541

>>4659493
suck my amerimutt dick

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4659543

>>4657428
thx I actually liked some of the songs

>> No.4659551

>>4659453
Ahahahahahahaha

>> No.4659561

>>4659438
I did check and it does seem that non profit stuff can also be hit with copyright strikes. Not defending the guy though. He shouldn't have aired whatever shit he has on twitter.

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4659564

His meltdown on twitter isn't even funny, it's just sad. Dude seriously needs to get off twitter/the internet for a good long while.

>> No.4659567

>>4659493
Cuckbass.

>> No.4659570

>>4659180
"pop on rocks" is a derivative work created by holo bass. it is derived from amelia watson's live stream provided under contract to cover corp, and dr. seuss's poem "fox in socks". either cover or the dr. seuss estate are within their rights to have it taken down from spotify.

he likely posted it on the #ameliart hashtag, which granted cover a license to use his work (the instrumental) for commercial purposes. cover ostensibly did not use his work for commercial purposes today, because it is an unmonetized stream. if they did, they would need to obtain a license not from holo bass, but from the dr. seuss estate.

>> No.4659572

>>4659453
the cover TOS are literally useless though if they're deemed to be legally invalid

>> No.4659574

>>4657748
It's insane. Even if everything went according to his delusions and Cover contacted him frantically after this visibility, begged him for permissions, and gave him a five-figure song deal or whatever he's hoping for, the fan backlash from the threat would have forced Cover to walk back everything instantly.

>> No.4659585

>>4659441
Remember to close your yt channel bass or you are gonna still be put on blast cunt.

>> No.4659599

>>4659486
I can't believe I have the gall to call reddit based what the fuck

>> No.4659603

>>4659496
>Fanworks stop being fanworks when you try to make money off them.
Well there goes the doujinshis.

>> No.4659607

He wanted to use a charity stream to get big and get paid? Fucking rat bastard needs to off himself.

>> No.4659609

>>4659493
But bro, the rules.

>> No.4659613

>>4659541
>1st world country
???

>> No.4659620

do you think they ask permission to every no body fan artist before they make thumbnails and stuff? no because the character ip rights are still the ownership of cover.

>> No.4659626

>>4659456
you aren't god and you don't get to dispense "karma" or whatever, but I assume you'll get what's coming to you regardless one day. I hope you're never on the receiving end of what you're about ready to try to do to Holobass, fucker.

>> No.4659646

>>4659493
pay for ame's voice first, holobass.

>> No.4659661

Good, his music sucks ass anyway. Production isn't even good.

>> No.4659667

His other channels are Spikey Wikey and Maradical. Godspeed anons

>> No.4659671

>>4659572
US law and Japan law has different views on TOS.

Can't use US views on TOS when saying with Japan company

>> No.4659673 [DELETED] 

>>4659326
>Sampling literal minutes of vocals
>Lyrics consisting of a dr seus work
>over public domain music
It's a fucking miracle nobody had sued him to hell and back yet.

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