/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

This needed another thread

>>46457983
>Lumi
Invader whore doesn't deserve to be called a phase

>april fools

Super unprofessional.
This could have been resolved behind the scenes but these jealous 2view bitches decided to dogpile for clout instead.

>>46458261
>somehow this is the victim's fault
Ok, simp

>>46458341
>victim
the hell, was she fucking raped? lmao

No one gives a single fuck
Get the fuck out and tell and the lazy whores in your discord to stop shitting up the catalogue and to spend their time on their content instead.
motherfucking 2views...

>>46458261
ikr, super unprofessional for lumi to use other vtuber live2d without her permission

>>46458625
They should be thanking Lumi. This is the most eyes those models have ever had on them.

>>46458558
how dare me discussing vtubers in a vtuber board.
Go back to your cuckshed of a general, cuck

>>46457983
>Lumi
That's your answer. I doubt that account even knows. I'm really hoping for the time they get blocked by the talents. They could help but they wont. Ungrateful niggers only leeching from phase

>>46458261
>The people whose models Lumi used without permission are acting unprofessionally by calling her out for it publicly
>Lumi did not act unprofessionally by inciting this dumb shit in the first place
This is your brain on Phase Connect

>>46457983
Seething 2view fat belly whores

>>46457983
Nobody cares, it's April Fools day, stop seething.

>>46457983
Bold of you to think they know Lumi and we at /pcg/ don't want anything to do with him. He also made fun of us on several occasions

>>46457983
That's messed up

>>46457983
didn't this one change to a coomer model?

>>46459465
No she currently sells fleshpics of herself in lingerie

>>46457983
Why is Lumi allowed to get away with everything?

>>46457983
>3 people calling her out
https://twitter.com/OumiyaEmma/status/1642305732086493184

>>46459578
Rules for thee, but not for Lumi.
If any of these girls had done the same thing with her model you can bet the Phase fanbase would've gone absolutely fucking apeshit on them.

>>46457983
Why didn't she mail or reached out to the management first peacefully before doing this? It seems so malicious. It doesn't seem like april fools prank because of how aggressive it is basing from the tweet

>>46459978
Why didn't Luni mail or reached out to the model's owner first peacefully before using it on her stream??

>>46457983
I hate lumi but Hylo is a fat whore selling her gross body on onlyfans, couldn't someone with more deserving have come out?

>>46459281
You have to be absolutely retarded to think that this is an april fools. This much attention and Lumi getting attacked by all the smaller vtubers. If you still think this is april fools then you're absolutely mentally challenged.

>>46460179
>couldn't someone with more deserving have come out?
Emma did and she's done absolutely nothing wrong

>>46457983
the simps at phase are awful at damage control when theres something actually serious going on. they should stick to regurgitating memes from 4chan

Why do people care about what goes on on Twitter? Never understood that.

Chapipi is the only good girl of this group. The rest can eat each other for all I care.

>>46460185
Stop seething already, stupid woman.

why is everyone involved with phase connect braindead? the guy running it is a retard, all the talents are retards, all the fans are retards.

>>46460446
Don't you have lingiere pics to sell? You move to full on softcore porn yet?

>stole your assets while I was a manager in the previous company (that I personally drove into the ground) teehee~ just a prank bro!

>>46460323
This is the third thread. Two of them failed. It's just the usual schizo who tries way to hard to create drama of anything Phase related.

>>46457983
>bannedvtmemes defending vtubers
You've gotta be joking. That nigger will only leech from vtubers and will never defend them. He only use phase shill as a front to get attention from phase connect but he's just your another typical holo only tourists. I'm betting you they will drop phase connect and switch to idol corp once they get bigger numbers.

>>46460300
>>46460446
>>46460629
>>46458625
samefag

>>46460370
>april fools
>woman
Come on, your copes are garbage.

>>46460649
That is a phase shill account. He will defend them until the last cent

>>46460629
>This is the third thread. Two of them failed
The last thread had over 520 posts and over 100 posters, dunno what your definition of "failed" is but it sure seems like people are interested in discussing this.

>>46460937
people are interested in shitting on retards making duplicate shit threads about nothingburgers

>>46460289
Ok that's acceptable

>>46461054
How are stolen assets a nothingburger?

Lumi is hated by the cyber girls and her discord friends

>>46457983
She also used Menace's model. Surprised she didn't call Lumi out for it or is just being smart about it. Really a bad move from Lumi.

Cyberlive died alone, Lumi had nothing to do with it

>>46459950
Because Lumi is based. If they had a problem with her using their models they should start streaming instead of whining that other people can finally see their models.

>>46461186
prove that she stole them mong.

Lumi is hated by these girls, them and their friends spend all day in pcg throwing shit at Lumi

>>46461196
>>46461364
lumi also hates them and is a child which is why she did this to dig at them.

these girls were talking shit about Lumi behind her back

>>46461343
Literally shown on stream and was clearly mocking them that she had it

I thought that the drama of Lumi and Cyberlive had ended a long time ago but it seems that it is not so, for God's sake can you girls forget your hatred towards Lumi and go on your way

>>46461364
I WONDER WHY. JUST FOR NO REASON AT ALL

>>46457983
Imagine being this woman and being so disgustingly pathetic that you seethe endlessly over an ex-coworker to the point of getting upset over a random gag on April Fool's Day. When she wakes up and looks at the tens of dollars she's making selling her dignity on OnlyFans, do you ever think she regrets her life's decisions? Seeing Lumi finding great success without having to sell her body must really dig away at her soul.

>>46460863
I doubt that account is really one and is just in there for the clout from the phase girls because they interact with the fans. Idol corp does the same and is next in line in terms of numbers. He'll probably drop pcg soon. Notice how a Yuko post is starting to appear from him? That'll come more often till Yuko notices him. He wont be defending phase anytime now unless he gets noticed by one of the talents before Yuko does. That nigger is worse than depressed doxxagi

>>46461552
Lumi is the one who dug this drama out of the grave.

There are discords dedicated to Lumi Hate
they dedicate themselves to making shit like this and they publish it on pcg, fucking mental patients

>>46461607
How did she get a veibae model and still not incline

>>46457983
>Getting mad at an april fools joke she's doing with her fans regarding her old company cyberlive
HOW DATE SHE
its actual hatred involved to get mad at this

>>46461253
Remember the breakdown Menace had over a harassment campaign directed at her? Who do you think was behind that?

Menace probably doesn't want to openly call her out, only for Lumi's psychotic fanbase to go after her again.

>>46457983
That account ignored Pippa's drama before and he'll do it again. Don't worry, once phase become irrelevant he will start posting all their dramas. That guy hates vtubers.

>>46457983
Why should I care about this again?

>>46461196
>>46461364
>>46461438
>>46461552
The drama between Lumi and the other ex-Cyberlive girls was considered over and done with over a year ago, and since then the two sides of the conflict have done just fine staying out of one another's way. Lumi is the one who has now reignited the drama again for absolutely no reason by pulling this little stunt and literally everybody can see that. It'd be one thing if they'd randomly started dogpiling her out of nowhere, but she blatantly instigated this herself and there's no getting around this fact, sorry Phaseshills.

>>46457983
Rin won
Boochuds lost
Phasechuds lost

>>46462124
Think of the 2views having their old models, that they no longer use, puppeted around like corpses by an insane psychopath!
This is an outrage and something must be done.

>>46461899
>>46462183
based lumi making sure those nobodies know their place

>>46462183
>shows models for 2s on stream
>yoki shows up and says hi
>tweets later "lumi RAPED my model on stream"
you're so right sister

>>46462124
You dont. You laugh at the phasefaggots desperately defending asset theft

https://twitter.com/AyaneHylo/status/1642383660308389888
Phase bros...Why would you do this?

>>46462265
>Think of the 2views
You lost me

WOO GET HER ASS.

>>46462333
Prove it is asset theft faggot.

>>46462363
Why is she acting like Lumi sent people to do this shit, accountability for fans actions and all yeah, but this is literally the same day.

>>46457983
>bannedvtmemes posts are all reddit shit to distract everyone from the Lumi drama
do phasefags really? this is just pathetic

>>46462459
Is there anything a woman wouldn’t do for attention?

>>46462481
How does Lumi have them? Oh right, stole them while she was a manager
There are 0 reasons why she should have them while working for phase connect, phase connect has no rights for these assets

>>46462363
This is why everybody is laughing at you, Hylo. If you don't want to be shittalked, don't post here.

>>46461899
Or she knows that she'd get shit on over a nothingburger if she tried anything.

>>46462333
Using models as a joke isn't asset theft.

>>46462459
>B-BUT ITS JUST APRIL FOOLS!!!!
Wonder what's phasefags next excuse

Wow. The 2 vtubers known for being slimey assholes are getting along. Who would have guessed?

This wasn't an april fools joke?

>>46462641
>dont go after our Lumi or we'll dox you
Arent you kiwiniggers tough.

>>46462732
>louder queen
Is this a parody?

>>46462587
Or she was given them because evidence suggest talents tended to share files of their models and there appears to be no contract or terms of use agreement stopping her from keeping them.
She also doesn't need the rights to use them do to something called fair use.<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

She really is getting "doxxed and harassed" isn't she

https://twitter.com/AyaneHylo/status/1642301610054254594?t=wd5LMjPXElQPhkdwqu1KBA&s=19

So much so she posts her own face. Typical whores

>>46462676
based behavior if you cant take the heat shouldnt have stepped into the kitchen

>>46462550
Nothing of the sort happened. The "dox" is somebody linking her RM tweet and posting her paywalled shit. Hylo has been shitposting here again and it didn't work, so she run away back to twitter. Still the same whore as ever.

>>46461589
The very first message in the Discord leaks is Pandora explicitly complaining about Lumi surpassing her in views.
They also explicitly hated on her for "pandering to 4chan".
The (completely unjustified) motives for them hating Lumi are there for you to see, plain as day.<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

Guys Lumi being in the wrong and the 2views being slimy vultures looking for easy clout aren't mutually exclusive

>>46461765
Why would Veibae fans watch anyone else but Vei? Or a vei clone

JUST A REMINDER OF THE PEOPLE WERE TALKING ABOUT

>>46462854
Oh fuck that actually was her? I thought someone was just trying to bait a response

What a bitch holy shit

Emma is super based. She acts with professionalism you dont get from western thots. Even in the screenshots where she is supposedly "shit talking Lumi" Emmas posts are just 'forget her and move on'

>>46457983
>>46462556
>ISRAEL
This is the exact equivalent of you nijisisters running to another chan board funny how that account was making fun of nijisisters that time

>>46462879
I legit don't see why she's in the wrong. The only possible argument is improper Vtuber etiquette which isn't something to go to PC management for.

>>46462947
This was after Lumi was stealing funds from the company, only focused on herself and her rat Yuri, intentionally excluded the rest of the company for any sort of deals and last but not least used company funds to buy herself a 3D while it was going under (thanks to her)

>>46462864
>pandering to 4chan
It’s their fans trying to shitpost about Lumi in the catalog making up accusations about them that made me start watching her. I posted a few times asking for a time stamp to a single claim they had. The only one I found even remotely plausible was “she lies about knowing Chinese because there’s no vod of that on her channel”, and that one was because the stream of her speaking Chinese was a collab on someone else’s channel.
What I did find was that those people were making a bunch of shit up and that Lumi’s zatsudans are really interesting.<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46462816
fleshtubers get the rope<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46463075
So Hylo and Yuri also stole funds to buy their 3D? Or did you forget that the two of them received 3D first and did full debuts with them?

Whores gonna whore
https://twitter.com/InamiYoki/status/1642267265432186883?t=KE9xwdI1F-dl8k70f14eBQ&s=19

This was in lumis chat. Didn't care till her friends ganged up

>>46463024
I don't know anything about her, but from what little I've seen from this whole "situation" she seems fine and is just in denial of how toxic hylo is so she's doubling down with her

>>46462947
Women really live like this, huh

>>46462947
Thanks for the laugh, Vera

>>46463075
Fuck off, Misaki? Nobody is falling for your shit again.

>>46463075
You can go home hylo. Nobody believes you or your whore mouth lies

>>46463075
Wasn't it Misaki that was stealing funds, while not doing her job as a manager?

This is the most forced drama shit I've seen in a while.

>>46462947
Undeniable proof that this is simply a grudge these whores cannot let go against Lumi for being more successful than them. All of their actions on twitter today also confirm this.

Im going to hurt a whore today.

>>46463138
sticking up for her former co-worker/friend, which is stupid but I can respect the ride or die attitude.

>>46463241
Yes. And instead of doing her job, she was astroturfing threads here to shift the blame.<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46463241
That was Lumi too. But in the end the company fell apart thanks to Lumi

>>46463129
Ah yes because I too type silly little emoticons when I'm very upset. So fucking disingenuous who does she think she's fooling?

>>46463241
Yeah. Lumi tried to make up the difference, but eventually the neglect from Cyberlive "management" drove her out.

>>46463246
Honestly makes me wonder if Lumi had expected something like this, and deliberately caused this nothingburger of a yab to get a bit more exposure.

Literal high school tier whore drama, who gives a shit.

>>46463320

>>46463364
Lumi’s unironic antis tend to be female, you are getting a small peek into their world.

>>46457983
Hylo is pretty well known for being a whore with a dirty attitude, she never really got along with Lumi even before. Hylo is obviously doing it for attention. How I wish I'm the one that owns that containment breaking page just this time so I can give her more attention, the bad kind of one, by making fun of her through a post. The owner of bannedvtmemes is really a coward.

>>46461449
What did she say, specifically, that was mocking them?

>>46462947
Like I'm looking at a bucket of crabs.
lmao

>>46463444
you will never be a woman

>>46463441
Holy shit this woman is a bad lair.

REMINDER
Lumi has a mod(Sei=xalamon) who is a doxer

>>46463530
kys henry

>>46463511
Huh?

>>46463530
Whatever you say, Hylo. Next time don't try to chase clout, you end up getting yourself doxxed.

>>46463480
She didn't say shit all she did was "Hey guys! It's me _____!" For a minute

>>46462363
holy shit...

>>46463530
>>46463312
You're getting way too desperate.<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46458261
> didn't see the attempt at discord DM
blindchama...

Bannedvtmemes pack of monkeys sure are seething

>>46463052
>Have extremely bad blood between yourself and ex-colleagues
>Never gets completely solved, but dies down over time as everybody moves on
>Over a year later decide to do something that's very obviously going to piss of your ex-colleagues and hurts the reputation of herself and her company
She is either completely retarded or did this with malicious intent, there really aren't any other explanations.

literally who

>>46463626
Not gonna lie I'd block the fuck out of Hylo's ass too so I don't blame her for not seeing it

>>46463364
This is all anyone needs to see to realize what kind of obnoxious women these are.<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46463626
You knew you were blocked on fancord long before you tried, Hylo. Otherwise you'd message phase directly.

>>46463656
It's an April fools' joke that lasted for a minute. Stop acting like as if this was anything serious.

>>46463656
>She is either completely retarded or did this with malicious intent
it's both.

>>46463095
I think another crucial element to understanding these people is that in the mind of a progressive, anyone who is even mildly right-leaning MUST be a "grifter", because they cannot possibly fathom that anyone could genuinely hold such "abhorrent" views. There must be some other motive, like money or attention. They cannot accept that there are good people who just happen to disagree with them.

The only good thing that came out of this was discovering that fucking Miituber guy

>>46463651
Quick BVTMxisters, we must make another meme about Hololive because our grorious Phase had an oopsie!

>>46463364
Its funny watching them roll around like a soccer.

>>46463821
I should become a miituber

>>46457983
>Lumi drama
>CyberLive drama
>this one time that account can make fun of a drama and it'll be reasonable
>everyone will side with him except the seething 2views
>wont do it
I can't comprehend how does the brain of the owner of that account works

>>46463526
She even posted another similar emoticon at the bottom, as if to say "See, this is just a personal quirk that I always do. So posting one in that chat from earlier in no way contradicts my claim that I was, in fact, very upset!"
It's almost impressive.

>>46463852
Anyone with functioning synapses will forget this happened by tomorrow not for the sake of protecting Lumi or Phase or some shit but because this is one of the most pointless pieces of nothing that we have ever bothered even humoring.

>>46463852
Who? What? Are you okay?

getting this upset over an April fools joke why are women like this

>>46464053
They're not. They're just pretending to be upset with the purpose of starting drama for clout.

>>46463656
She's a little retarded, but it's ok because I love her.

This is the equivalent to getting mad at someone for not asking them first if you can prank them and moved their stuff 3 inches to the left. Going to management over this is retarded.

>>46464122
maybe it's all one big joke

>>46459950
no they would have laughed it off and moved on

>>46463734
If you walked up to a bunch of black dudes who you were already on bad terms with and said "what's poppin my niggas" as a joke then a lot of people would probably agree that you didn't do anything serious, but they would also agree that it was a fucking retarded idea and wouldn't be surprised that you got the shit beaten out of you.

>>46464053
I think there's genuinely something about Lumi that makes other women seethe, this isn't the first time. Pretty interesting, really.

Menace has ignored it fully. I'm glad she has evolved beyond.

>>46464053
Success breeds jealousy. I bet you that if she had somehow been able to use a Holo or Niji model, none of them would have given a shit because they could take a joke. Only 2views and irrelevant corpos would get mad at something as harmless as this.

I have no idea how either of these women have a fanbase. Both are completely annoying.

Women who are too focused on the internet are literal womanchildren. Bitchy and immature.

>be on bad terms with people
>have brilliant idea to stir up shit with them by using their models on your stream
>they get upset
>haha it was just a prank bro

>>46464252
>Trying to compare using someone else's model for a minute to going up to black people and calling them racial slurs.
Why are you a retard anon?

Lumi should have sent them her own model to call it even

>>46464163
Them being a little retarded is the best part<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46464257
>something about Lumi
The biggest part of it is her success. They were jealous before and they're still jealous now, and it only gets worse because they were such bitches to her behind the scenes and she found out.

>>46464340
Just wait for them to reach menopause, they'll mature up instantly, and almost have man-like thoughts. Look at Botan and Mio.

>>46464360
>Trying to start drama on april 1st
tell me, which one is the fool?

>>46464194
>they would have laughed it off and moved on
lol no, Phasefags have one of the worst cases of being able to dish it out but not being able to take it I've ever seen

>>46464360
>Imagine getting upset over someone else using your model for a minute for a April fools joke.

>>46464420
This. It sounds like a cop-out, but they literally say it themselves in the leaked Discord messages. Straight from the whores's mouth.

>Defending the use of 3rd parties assets
Phaseniggers proven to be nijinigger tier, bringing nijinigger tier drama, and nijinigger tier defense despite their shit company is clearly in the wrong.
And tell your pink whore rabbit to stop leeching Gura, Phaseroaches.

>>46464442
Oh yeah? Give examples then.

>>46460799
No one cares retard.

>>46459184
Hylo's old unused model was literally on screen for 5 seconds. This is the definition of seething schoolyard drama.

>>46464535
Don't bully my son guys it's 2 minutes past bedtime and he gets upset when he's sleepy.

>>46463951
Either it didn’t get to him, or the rrat about it being a Phase shill account is real.

>>46464535
>leeching Gura
wtf are you talking about

>>46464535
OnlyFans whores don't get to have opinions and automatically lose the argument no matter how "right" they are.

they want drama because they could talk everything internally with Lumi or phase connect management and none of this would have happened

>>46464535
>leeching Gura
Wrong playbook

>>46459548
My ability to care is even lower now what an actual whore.

>>46459578
Because her enemies are crazy seething whores.

>>46460150
Because Lumi didn't do anything wrong.

>>46464644
I think they mixed her up with Rin. Probably a newfag who saw the falseflagging numberfag posts being spammed earlier.

>>46464535
Except those girls clearly gave Lumi those assets. Do you think that she hacked into their computers to steal them?

>>46464651
They could have even used it as an opportunity to make amends with Lumi. Instead, they chose drama. This was deliberate.

>>46464535
>Leeching gura
Wrong small company
The jew company are leeching off gura, not the schizo one

>>46460937
Me telling you to fuck off doesn't mean you succeeded, retard.

>>46464535
Lumi didn't do anything illegal and is at worse it's impolite to not ask first. This is nothing like Nijinigger drama.

>>46462333
Yeah, they act like this isn't the yab of the century that is going to destroy both Phase Connect and vtubing in general.

>>46464535
Pippa is leeching off the pink holoen not the blue holoen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIv6IbwkjZg

>>46464535
>defending onlyfans whores

>>46464461
It wasn't even a minute, it was like 5 seconds.

>>46464789
>They could have even used it as an opportunity to make amends with Lumi
phase niggers really are on full on damage control mode. lumi struts out other peoples models that she shouldn't even have and takes digs at their owners, but somehow lumi is 100% in the right and the other girls should have used this opportunity to kiss her feet and beg for forgiveness.

>>46464422
>once a woman is barren, childless and alone she has a moment of self-reflection and wonders "was I, perhaps, in the wrong?"

>>46464843
What the fuck is wrong with her autotune

>>46464871
>5 seconds.
I want her to sue Lumi and PC now and laugh as the lawsuit is thrown out.

>>46464830
Agreed, NijiEn is a cesspit of snakes while JP management is shitting itself over a single tweet from Gundou they are well and truly fucked

>>46464898
I can't believe Lumi said terrible things such as "hi" and "I'm Hylo". What a nightmare.

>>46462732
Lumi's chat having no idea who she was supposed to be when her model came out must have bothered her a lot.

>leech talents from other companies
>leech off hololive by putting them in your thumbnails
>now they are even leeching off 2-views by stealing their models
Leech Connect really staying true to their brand.

>>46464898
How do you know she shouldn't have the files? If she was just given them then there's no reason why she would have to delete them.

>>46464289
>I bet you that if she had somehow been able to use a Holo or Niji model, none of them would have given a shit because they could take a joke.
You'd have to be retarded to think this. If Lumi (or anybody else outside of the companies) somehow came into possession of Niji or Holo models without Anycolor or Cover's knowledge and started parading them around on stream then both her and the person whose model she used would be completely and utterly fucked.

>>46464898
>kiss her feet
You're looking at this wrong. I know you can't see it because you're seething about her being a better quality entertainer than you, but she doesn't want you to worship her, she just wants friends.

>>46462816
>i know we didn't reach the goal in my donothon but here is my face reveal
That's just sad.

>>46462816
>have whore pics online for people to find
>have people pay you for said pics and alike on a platform FREQUENTLY having it's content uploaded elsewhere
>constantly shill it with vtuber persona, pairing it at every turn.
>"wait why are people embarrassing me you can't do that!!"
The absolute state of whores. I know jack shit about them but I don't even think vshitshow is this bad.

I don't care about this drama. The only thing I care about is her new fucking shitty generic model. I fucking miss her old model. God dammit, why did you change...

>>46465035
Okay what's your legal theory? And remember it would most likely be under American or Canadian law not Japan's retarded copyright law.

>April Fools.
>A day that allow to violate ethics.

it's true, but not accurate.

>>46465143
Yuri's model change is the bigger tragedy...

>>46464252
That's a great comparison. Hylo is a violent lunatic lashing out over nothing and her behavior shouldn't be tolerated in a civilized society.
Are you an idiot?

>>46465035
She would only get "fucked" by old idiotic businessmen who have no idea how the world works but they would get laughed out at courts anyways. The talents themselves would happily allow her to use it or not care like a normal person.<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46465143
Get over yourself and move on fat fuck

>>46465163
There's nothing unethical about flaunting a model for 5 seconds.

How many years on twitter and they didn't learn that posting this type of thing only makes everything worse and now Hylo is crying that they doxed her xD<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46465006
I genuinely had no idea so i just threw shit at Lumi.

>>46463734
She is not supposed to have those models, there is no joke here. Just malicious intent

>>46465237
>there is nothing unethical about using another v-tubers model without their permission

>>46465247
She's doubled back from saying that the doxxing is telling of how Lumi fosters her fanbase to "please don't send hate this is nobodies fault" she cannot commit to anything besides being a victim holy shit

>>46465237
Wait was it ACUTALLY that long?
Jesus Christ I'm outing myself as a tourist here but FUCK this makes it even funnier.
How fucking PETTY are twitter whores?

>>46463951
>some 2view nobody knows is mad at a joke
Yeah, that would be such an epic tweet. It would do such crazy numbers it would win the internet. Why is everybody trying to advertise this shitty r/4chan twitter-account in here?

>>46457983
I feel bad for all the people supporting Hylo not knowing how much of a ditty cheating whore she is
>>46463951
He most likely don't know Lumi and her history with Cyberlive like the tourist he is. He most likely think the one at fault here is Lumi and instead of defending her, he decided to post reddit memes and other screencaps to ignore the drama.
I'm thankful that my oshi doesn't give him a bit of attention that he stopped posting about her completely. I know a leech when I see one and its that account
>>46464643
There is just no way it didn't get to him. He's choosing to ignore it not because he's a shill but he doesn't know anything about Lumi's background before she came to phase connect and Lumi doesn't follow him and Lumi doesn't interact with him. He's only a shill for the girls that gives him attention, he used to post about Tenma but now there's no posts about her anymore after she refuses to interact with him and follow his page. If I am a real shill I would always defend the company girls in a heartbeat without the need for attention.

>>46465303
Well did she stole them or was she given them and then kept them? Keeping something you are given isn't malicious you dumbass.
>>46465329
It's impolite at most you retarded nigger.

>>46464898
Could you please point out the damage to really show those Phase defenders how wrong they are?<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46465349
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1781821882
50 min in

>>46465349
Nijisanji would destroy phase connect and force fishman out of the industry forever if anyone in that company was ever seen with one of their assets/models in one of their folders. Dont even have to show them on screen<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46465458
You see the damage is when people shared pictures of hylo that she put on the internet herself for people to jack off to

>>46465179
Have you considered that was part of the point and that I wasn't defending Hylo at all, but was calling Lumi a retard for deliberately riling up people who hate her? I know that your entire worldview revolves around it, but you should really let go of the whole "everybody who thinks Lumi did something wrong must be a seething Cyberliver" narrative because it doesn't really work outside of the /pcg/ hugbox.

>>46464620
special pleading fallacy

>>46461697
It still cracks me up to see people actually use chud.

Im canceling my membership

>>46465247
Well if i was Hylo and for some reason dead set on making something out of this nothingburger, then i'd pivot to the "Lumi's fans are harrassing me" angle. If you try hard enough there will always be one or two retards who will indeed harrass you.

>>46465349
You know what? People started throwing shit at her immediately so the screen was even covered with random things. It never was about showing off the model, but seething about how Lumi is having fun at their expense. Which I guess is valid complain, but Hylo is using it for wrong reasons.<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46465486
>https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1781821882
The entire thing lasted 7 minutes.

>>46465530
>You see the damage is when people shared pictures of hylo
You are right, those pictures did a lot of damage to my poor eyes. I hope they apologize for posting something this ugly.

>>46465550
You either don't have one or have the useless gifted tier

>>46464898
do drama niggers really go full damage control for an only fans whore? hylo struts out her disgusting body that she should be ashamed of and begs for paypigs, but somehow hylo is 100% in the right and the yellow woman should have used this as an opportunity to kiss her disgusting pasty feet and beg for forgiveness

>>46465443
>Well did she stole them or was she given them and then kept them? Keeping something you are given isn't malicious you dumbass.
She stole them while she worked as a manager in her former company. She was never given those models and she absolutely has no means of keeping them now while she is in phase connect.

>>46465550
She was literally raped

>>46460649
>he's just your another typical holo only tourists
This is terrible damage control when he is one of the biggest Holo/Niji anti accounts out there.

>>46465035
lol okay sue then the judge will rule against you as fair use parody

>>46465645
And you know she stole them how?

>>46465519
If some niji shared their model with outsider, they would be kicked too. Too bad, this is just a leftover from when CL shared their models with each other and they most likely have Lumi's model too.
Immoral and stupid, but completely different.

>>46465519
lmao if Nijisanji tries to destroy Phase they'd just get embarrassed by them. they would have no grounds at all to do anything

>>46465703
It's not immoral and is at most impolite. WTF are you talking about?

>>46465699
Because she has shown the full on all asset model on stream you dumb fuck
This is the 4th time you try to damage control with that exact same post now

>>46464535
I think the best part about this entire thread is the lack of new ips. Lumi successfully manages to get her janny squad in every thread that is against her in the slightest even if she has a genuine retard moment. If only Boss could have fixed her instead of trying for Vera.
>>46465537
Don't bother. The way it works is either you're automatically categorized either as a woman or a Cyberliver when you talk with these people.

>>46465537
Lumi didn't do anything egregiously wrong. You shouldn't stop having fun because trashbags like Hylo might throw a little fit. Your world view is too focused on not fucking up, rather than on succeeding.
You'll always have retards seething at you no matter what you do and idiots like you who think they are very reasonable by being idiots who enable that shit should keep their brainlet analogies to themselves. You're not helping, you're not impressing anyone and you're definitely not convincing anybody.

>>46465748
Immoral or impolite. Whatever you consider appropriate word for not asking others for permission. That wasn't really the point.

Lumi did nothing wrong.

>>46465360
They probably want this drama posted in that account. Too bad he's a phase shill

>>46465794
And? She could have the original files, and it still won't be proof of theft you dumb nigger.
>>46465852
Immoral is clearly very different from just being impolite.<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46465653
wtf even is this cope?
those two things aren't even CLOSE to being mutually exclusive, retard.

>>46465748
the main difference is that CL talents owned their models and niji owns the models of their livers, so itll probably have grounds for miss use and leak of company assets

Everyone's acting like fishman will make Lumi do more than make a public apology Tweet after deleting the files off her PC/ never showing them on stream again.

She's not getting kicked from Phase, you can stop overreacting.

>have the opportunity to leverage a funny for free advertising
>nuke yourself in the foot by getting butthurt

>>46465918
>he posted this without looking at his latest tweet
Well now you must feel pretty fucking retarded huh?

Paizuri.

Lumi did something bad but they want drama and pity because they hate Lumi

Fat

>>46466067
>Lumi did something bad
Giving them free advertising?

Chuubas have fans wrapped around their finger so much that nobody can objectively see how suddenly bringing up your ex-coworkers who's bad blood had already died down, is stirring shit. Going to management and treating it like rape is blowing it out of proportion, yes, but Lumi knows what she's doing and got the drama she wanted. If you're going to try to defend one dramatic bitch over a bunch of others, at least get a better defense than "it's April fool's bro" and "but she's based" it makes phasefags look pathetic

>>46466092
Fapello

>>46466067
What Lumi did is the equivalent of touching something to move them 3 inches to the left without asking first. A slap on the wrest would be an over correction at this point.<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46466014
Gimme a sec
>le google
That technically disproves nothing of what I said, making me technically correct.

>>46465360
I mean it's one of those right times they could post about a drama but instead they wont because it isn't a holo or niji drama or maybe because they think this drama is just april fools. Though you have to be really stupid to reach that conclusion like the others here

>>46465817
the weirdest thing is why are you so invested in the shitflinging between two nobodies? youre either an orbiter trying to get into their good graces, which is sad on its own, or one of the ex-CL nobodies trying to bait drama, any other possibility would make you a fucking pathetic retard
im here bc i think its funny watching whores trying to cling into anything to stay out of irrelevancy

>>46466111
This isn't drama worthy.

>who cares if i drove your car without you permission, i only did it for 5 seconds
>it's just an april fools joke haha

>>46457983
>showed model for less than 5 seconds
>call her out for it
>others followed suit after Hylo
It's like the 2views all talked about it to follow after Hylo calls her out

>>46466092
Tranny?

>>46466235
You're right, it isn't. But shitflinging could have also been avoided if Lumi didn't do something so objectively retarded.

>>46466238
How is it like a car you dumb nigger?<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46466111
>makes phasefags look pathetic
when don't phasefags look pathetic? most people's only interaction with phase connect fags is seeing them spam their oshi's twitter replies or comment sections begging them to join phase connect.

>>46466238
retarded analogy, kill yourself

>>46466110
Just for not asking. But they did their worst to post it on twitter for views and pity

>>46457983
>still getting more attention as we speak
Yeah, and its looking bad for hylo being outed as a liar

>>46466111
>makes phasefags look pathetic
delete this post, before they see it<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46466111
She only brought their models in to mess around in. If you're just going to try to move the goalpost by saying it doesn't count just because everything needs to be serious business, take a look at it like this.
If you were working and then stopped, but they didn't make you return any of your work computer or whatever they would have no right to complain when you do whatever you want with it. You are entitled to do whatever you want with it.

>>46466238

>>46463050
My goob tomorrow :)<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46466399
She is not supposed to have those models. What does it take for your 6 year old brain to understand this. She stole those models while she was a manager in Cyberlive without anyone knowing and did this "joke" to taunt them

>>46457983
>How to approach drama 101 as BVM:
>Do nothing
>after posting billions of holo niji dramas while they're still developing
I'm thinking the one that owns that account has brain damage

>>46466286
His face make me angry, some ape part of my brain wants to sharpen a rock when I see him

>>46466502
No, they exchanged them as genmates. You know like many others do.

>>46466210
You seem infinitely more invested than me considering that was my first post in what is a drama baiting thread to begin with. Are you perhaps projecting? Either that or in Lumi circlejerk when in reality every party involved in the initial drama was retarded.

>>46457983
How many times does this make for a Lumi drama. I've been seeing so much lately

>>46466399
poor analogy anon. You assume that not only was Lumi allowed to keep her model but also all of theirs too

>>46466300
no she is just that fat where gender starts coming into question

>>46466502
>posts retarded take
>claims you have an undeveloped brain
name a more iconic duo I dare you

>>46466502
What do you mean, "not suppose to," if she stole them they should be calling the police. If she was given them and there's no contract telling her to delete them than she can keep them and do anything she wants short of violating copyright.

>>46466645
these 2 views are too retarded to copyright shit

>>46466590
sorry anon confused you with the other one desperately trying to argue that lumi broke copyright laws by showing models that none even uses anymore for 5 seconds

>>46466641
A phasefag deepthroating Lumis asshole

>>46466238
streaming is the same as real life

>>46466399
>Move the goalpost
Okay, since you're hellbent on making it seem like there's no possible way it could have been done with the knowledge that it would stir shit. Please explain to me how bringing models from ex-coworkers you had enough conflict with to drive you out of the company you worked alongside them with, somehow isn't setting off any flags saying "this probably isn't the smartest idea for me or my company's image."

>>46466676
>broke copyright laws by showing models that none even uses anymore
you do realize that just because somebody isn't using them doesn't mean they gave up ownership of them, right?

ITT: White Knight Death Match over women being women

>>46466645
Why is someone in phase connect in possession of another companies assets? They dont own them

>>46466676
He's most likely a SEANigger who only knows about Japan's copyright laws and thinks American/Canadian copyright laws are the same.

>>46457983
I am not reading all of these. Qrd for others except the ones in OP?

>>46466676
Most of the anons talking about copyright in this case are also horrifically lacking intelligence. No harm, no foul. I can see how the mistake could be made.

>>46466697
see >>46466730 for a concise summary of everything you said

>>46466111
Anon, it's the tiniest offense made even tinier by it happening on April fools. It's not that people don't realize that, it's that people don't care, because it doesn't justify the extremely transparent twitter-behavior from Hylo and friends.

>>46466759
Lumi from phase connect stole the vtubing models of everyone in her former company while she was a manager and has the brilliant idea to show them off as a "joke"

>>46466676
>>46466728
>They don't even use their models
Dumbest excuse in these threads by far, it falls apart the moment she shows Emma

Internet women were supposed to be too autistic for this shit, where will I find love now?

>>46466809
You forgot
>It was funny
>Nothing will happen to her
>Nobody will remember this in 3 days
>You are gay

>>46466799
>people upset about somebody using their property without their permission is just twitter behavior, it was just a prank
>lumi going out of her way to stir the pot with people she is on bad terms with is based and redpilled

>>46466744
She was in that company originally you moron. In fact, she was allowed to keep her model from that same company. We don't know the full details, but to say there's no way she couldn't legally attain a copy of the files is bullshit.

>>46466836
>Internet women were supposed to be too autistic for this shit
You are autistic for even POSSIBLY believing in this shit, I wish you well, good luck anon, it only gets harder from here.

>>46466868
>3 days
being a bit generous there
itll be lucky if this last till tomorrow morning

>>46466874
>people upset
They aren't upset, they are just trying to farm clout and hurt somebody they dislike.
Both things aren't going to work out for them, because their content sucks and Lumi didn't do anything a neutral person would care about.

>>46457983
Thank you everyone on this thread for being the fools for this day, doing a good work as clowns god bless o7.

>>46466836
Men.
Embrace homosexuality.<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46466882
>she couldn't legally attain a copy of the files is bullshit
even if she has the files that wouldn't mean she has the rights to use them. having a copy of the file doesn't give her free reign to do what she wants with them because the actual copyright to them isn't hers. it would be like if a streaming service just tossed up a show because they had the video files. having it doesn't give you authority to actually use it.

>>46466238
>the last 17 billion times people tried to win an argument using an analogy have failed
>but this time will be different
When will people finally give up on that approach to arguing?

>>46466874
They may own the copyright but if Lumi was given a copy of the files by either them or the company without an express contract requiring them to be overturn then she's allowed to keep them for her personal use.

>>46466946
I don't think anyone's made videos on the incident yet. When that happens (probably will, using other peoples models crosses a line) people will start talking about it for another 20 minutes before moving on.

>>46466874
for all you know lumi bought out the rights for a $1 when cyberlive collapsed

dont worry guys hyno got her best man on the case

>>46467021
The top 3 dramatubers were already tagged for this. We'll see which ones riding on the fishman payroll

>>46466999
What she did isn't in violation of copyright. Ever heard of a concept known as fair use?

>>46457983
All those words but all you needed to say is hylo. Everyone knows how much of a whore she is already.

>>46467015
>personal use.
she didn't use them for personal use. she used them for commercial use.

>>46466809
She didn't steal shit. They all shared models with each other when they were genmates, and she was manager for a while so she had more access because she was HELPING THEM make announcement and assets. Backstabbing whores just for some pitiful twitter clout

>>46467090
>commercial
how much money did she make explicitly from showing the models. tell me. I'm waiting.

>>46467090
Fair use allows people to use copyrighted material without permission even for commercial use. Welcome to American copyright law SEAnigger.

>>46467101
Retard, the entire reason why that le sekrit discord was made was because Lumi never helped them with shit and only focused on herself
Whom the fuck are you trying to fool here with your new ip shilling 320 posts into a thread?

>>46467049
oh no no no

>>46467049
>bamboozled by a very simple April fools joke
TOP MIND OF TWITTER 2023

>>46466999
Theres no legal basis for any kind of ip contest.
But using a dead model is just a weird choice and bas taste

Thread theme:
https://youtu.be/vuRNoBOkDzY?t=28

>>46457983
Doesn't Lumi basically own those models because she's handling them before? I checked the stream and she wasn't even using the models those said vtubers are using. She's using older ones that she has permission to use because she was the manager before. AND one of the vtubers haven't even streamed for TWO MONTHS. What kind of bullshit am I looking at?

>>46464340
Anon, we are talking about vtubers here

>>46467382
>no new ip

>>46467160
Oh no! Unpaid and uncontracted manager didn't tard-wrangle retarded women who got fooled by Misaki and Vera. What's wrong with the world!?

>>46467090
post damages

wait, isn't bleed lumi's most loyal fan?

>>46467160
The company was already on fire when Lumi got "promoted" to being a manager. After the company burned down they reformed it without her as Aetheria.
Aetheria was a complete shit-show that burned down a couple of months in with no Lumi in sight. Whereas Lumi is doing well in Phase and gets along with her company mates without incident.

Whomst've are you trying to fool here with your grand "it was all the yellow woman's fault" strategy?

>>46467444
>no new ip

>>46466336
She can't keep getting away with it!

>>46467532
wait Hylo has an onlyfans? is she making that little money as a vtuber?

>>46467495
Getting attacked by Lumi fans and by Lumi antis pretending to be Lumi fans as to make Lumi look bad isn't enough?

>>46467532
More like one of Riifu's most loyal riiflets kek

>>46457983
Isn't lumi that chick who fucked her groomer when she was 16 for a pair of pants?

>>46457983
https://twitter.com/fujikuuruka/status/1642316550442192896
This was uncalled for though

>>46467717
HAHA

>Lumi is retarded for using someone else's model without their knowledge/permission. Lumi gains nothing but a shit 5 second joke that could've been replaced by any other generic joke. The whole drama could've been avoided if Lumi wasn't retarded.
>Hylo is retarded because she's going to say far too much and ruin what little clout she's gained from this and has pigeon-holed her potential viewer-base to a small subsection of vtuber viewers. Her thinly veiled attempt to settle this in private, not contacting phase management privately, and the typical, generic victim tweets will only push away most fans who don't want drama.
>Everyone here is retarded for making this bigger than it should be. Talking about a non-issue between two ethot retards instead of jerking it to a good vtuber actually streaming right now.

>>46467717
KEK
>>46467765
Finally a somewhat reasonable post.
Expected. But fuck you anyways, because reading all of that ain't funny.

>>46466730
Accurate.
>Two women being retarded
>Two armies of white knights marching for them
EN vtubers were a mistake.

>>46467765
Who are you quoting
Also these thread were clearly made by certain individuals who stand to benefit from the "drama" getting larger.
I wonder who that could be?<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46467015
>then she's allowed to keep them
That's not how it works...

Hey janny, can you please have your poster >>46467049 delete my post from thid thread, some friends told me he had been copying my screenshots in his post and seeing as anon and I are not on friendly terms and there was no attempt to ask permission I see this as a problem.

>>46467717
God I wish that was real.

>>46467851
Yes, if she's given them and isn't required to by contract or any other agreement she doesn't have to delete them and can in fact keep them.

>>46467717
Funny as fuck but god damn, Uruka didn't just stir the pot, she threw glyceride into the pot and threw it at the wall. Sakana is going to be stressed the fuck out cleaning this up...

>>46467717
>>46467858
My sides

>>46467929
In case you didn't notice, it's fake account.

>>46467929
It's not her but a 2 follower account. Still funny.

>>46467929
is it still april the first in your time zone

>>46467929
Retard-chama...

>>46467929
anon prease

>>46467929
>Uruka
I can't believe people keep falling for this shit

>>46467917
Having it on your computer and actively using it, and earning money on it, are different things. This is excluding oral, and implied, agreement that the files are to be used for a set-time or specific use. And oral agreements are admissible in court.

>>46468028
Today was funniest April's fools day I could ever wish for.

>>46467858

>>46468034
There's literally no copyright issue here whether if we're going with fair use or fair dealings. Take your pick it doesn't matter. There's another issue, if the company gave it to her then told her she can keep shit than what's the issue?

>>46467160
Retard, lumi was the only one who stepped up and even attempted to try to save that bonfire of a company. Instead the stupid whores decided to believe in their lord and saviour vera. look how that turned out? Look at where Lumi is, where they are. Look at the overwhelming amount of evidence that shows you how vindictive and whorish these people are.

>>46467160
>Lumi never helped them with shit and only focused on herself
Got any proof of that Zero? Because she did almost the entirety of that stupid valentine's event on top over other things?

>>46467765
No this is a comedian making an okay joke and a bunch of nobodies getting butt hurt about it.

>>46468034
Nigga this is at best a civil case.
You think Hylo or any other of these thots got the money to pay a lawyer for a drawn out case with no relevant case law?
Anybody tying this to legal arguments is a fucking fool. If you ain't got the money or power to enforce the law then you ain't got shit. Phase could easily pull the lawyers they have on retention to bury these clowns but that's not good for business.
Women are so fucking stupid this is why they need corps to wrangle their petty female shitslinging.

>>46468147
>if we're going with fair use or fair dealings.
Yes and no. There's a reason why many youtubers who took iconic characters from established brands eventually had to change to a thinly veiled "original." Yellow Flash, a shitty dramatuber, is a good example. Even if he transformed the image, it's still using someone else's image and he can't legally use it. Fair use doesn't protect him and it won't protect Lumi. You can't just use a random character, put your voice over it, and claim fair use. Otherwise we'd be running around with a lot more batman and spiderman avatars on youtube. But Lumi also didn't really break any laws so it doesn't matter.

>>46468034
please. to even start the litigation process, that is assuming any litigation would even try to take on this nothing burger of a case, would cost them anywhere between 20k to 30k JUST TO START.

>>46467929
retard kun

>>46468420
>Fair use doesn't protect him and it won't protect Lumi.
Completely different cases retard.
Yellow Flash used it as his whole identity.
Lumi used it as a one time joke on April Fools.
The former is not fair use, the latter is clearly parody.

>>46468323
No shit. But anon tried to claim that Lumi had rights to use the image and she doesn't. It is a civil case at best and it'd just be thrown into the trash before it ever reached a judge's desk. But that doesn't mean Lumi has the technical right to use someone else's model/image. The whole thing should've ended with Phase saying they'll handle it. Hylo is a cunt-bitch who pretended to do it privately just to get clout publicly.

But Lumi still doesn't have the right to use the model of anyone else without their permission.

>>46468034
please sue i want to see this fat whore get laughed out of court

>>46468507
If it fell under US jurisdiction Lumi would have full rights to make that joke under fair use as a parody. Hylo and the others do not have a case and were they to find some obscure legalese to bring a case they're going to go broke funding it and STILL fail when the judge throws it out for lack of damages.
Hylo and these others are retards and they don't understand that doing this shit makes them look bad, not Lumi.

>>46468420
You're saying that as if it's comparable, but what the flash did isn't what Lumi did and if you look at the 4 factors of fair below you will see how Lumi's use is fair use.
1. the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;
2. the nature of the copyrighted work;
3. the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and
4. the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.

>>46465550
this annoying bitch gets involved in all drama shit

>>46468507
Under American and Canadian law her use would most likely be seen as satire and will thus be considered fair and not a violation of copyright. You don't need permission under fair use or fair dealings.

>>46468487
>The former is not fair use, the latter is clearly parody.
That is the defense Lumi can use. But she might struggle against Factor 1 of parody protection. There's also an argument unique to vtubing about whether or not the model counts as a published work or not to be accessed. The model is published in that it's publicly visible but the model files are private and not publicly accessible.

Doesn't really matter how legal or not this is, courts wouldn't touch this non-issue in a million years.

>>46468614
>Hylo and these others are retards and they don't understand that doing this shit makes them look bad, not Lumi.
Disagree. Hylo has had more visibility, and sympathy, than she has ever had. I doubt this will hurt Lumi but it's still drama she could have easily avoided. Lumi will be untouched by this but Hylo will probably grow a bit.

>>46467765
Yeah pretty much

>>46468769
ultimately it implies I should be able to stream as Lumi without her consent if I have access to the files.
If someone leaks her model it is suddenly free game then?

>>46468818
I hope she enjoys her new miituber audience

>>46468769
US courts have ruled that the factors are a balancing act and that not all factors need to be weighed in a defendant's favor to successed on a claim.

>>46468818
>Hylo has had more visibility, and sympathy, than she has ever had
this is nearing critical levels of cope, man

>>46468818
This will teach every single vtuber collabing with Lumi not to give her their model at least

>>46468840
That might break other laws but when it comes to copyright law depends on the use. If you just use her model to start a Vtubing career than no you won't be protected. If you make a 5-second clip of her sucking a dick in vrchat than it would be fair use.

>>46468626
>1. the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;
Both used it for commercial purposes.
>2. the nature of the copyrighted work;
Hylo's model is arguably a private, creative work. The closest comparison would be mascot costumes and there is precedence that wearing a mascot costume without permission is illegal. You can't walk around as Mickey Mouse and claim fair use and that would likely extend to vtubers similarly, if this ever went to court.
>3. the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and
The primary reason why this would never reach a judge's desk and be laughed at any legal office. It wasn't even five seconds of use.
>4. the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.
The only thing Hylo could claim is that it was damaging to her image. But parody laws and the small size of her channel would protect Lumi.

The whole thing is stupid as fuck but people are underselling how much Lumi pushed the line. Arguing here is pointless anyway, everyone is just an armchair lawyer who can't make actual legal statements. Over a nothing incident.

>>46469043
If it's a nothing incident then she didn't pushed the line.

>>46469043
Aloe died for less

>>46462459
>kiwifags are phasenigger simps
story as old as time

>>46468870
It isn't cope if I don't like Hylo. It's simply a statement of fact. I'd rather she not have this level of publicity at all. If anything, what I said is a diss at how small and irrelevant she is.
>>46468840
That's why I had an issue with what that anon said. Just because you have access to something doesn't mean you suddenly have rights to use it. Lumi couldn't suddenly start streaming as Hylo for an entire stream, no matter how comedic, without it pushing the line against fair use (factor 3).

>>46457983
>bannedvtmemes whiteknights already jumping to suck dick of fishman
lmao

>>46469210
Anon you might not know American law, but she does have the right to use it under fair use. Also, the factors are weighed and meeting all 4 isn't required.

>>46468884
Ironically it means that any non-phase that would collab with lumi that hasn't collabed with her before would definetly be "collaborating down" to her.
Fucking imagine if Lumi shared streamspace with a holosanji. I'd hope they'd give her their model to 1 DARE her to do shit, and 2 so that if she does pull this shit they can give her barely a slap on the wrist and prove hylo even worse of a twitter whore LMAO

>>46469399
You don't need to share models for collab. You do it when you want to skinwalk.

>>46469601
I know, that's part of what make's it really funny.
Not to mention that, since AnyColor and Cover are using proprietary facial capture software (Last I checked), they could BS some reason to share anyways. Even if it was just that Lumi needed to share and the talent wanted to give theirs to her in fairness or some shit.
My sides would achieve geostationary orbit in this scenario.

>>46469399
The seething would be funnier if it was Pippa skinwalking. Retards would cry regardless of who skinwalks but I can imagine all the threads that would get made if Pippa got to use Gura's model.

>>46469260
not surprising

>>46469741
I somehow see the piss ghost from /jidf/ being roped into this hypothetical if it came to be, lmao

>>46469260
disgusting, phase shills are literal subhumans and I cant be happier to see idol overtakens them and sends them to irrelevancy

>>46457983
why is this bitch involved with literally every single /here/ drama

>>46470197
Seething 2views aren't just a meme.

>>46470262
Lumi is the one who starts the drama every time though
no one wants to go against her because she has psychopath fans who'd harass and doxx people but every /here/chuuba I know, other than pippa, hates her.

>>46470340
SHE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT!

>>46470340
so true sisters

>>46470369
>>46470370
go back to your discord subhumans

>>46468818
Thank you for proving this is most likely for clout farming fucking retard.

>>46470340
Is her pet schizo still working for her or did she boot him out? That was my only complaint back then because that faggot was spamming gore in /wvt/ for a long-ass time.

I think the root of issue here is that Lumi isn't fat

>>46469043
any copyright issues fall faaaar into the realm of fair use. Especially when for satire.

>>46469260
why are phasefags like this

>>46470907
He's been gone for almost a year at this point.