/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>46200814
I hope you find salvation, marineschizo

>>46200814
This has been said over a million times already, it's unironically ok when JP does it

>>46200814
A vtuber can be sexual as she wants, but once she talks about how many dicks she is taking on a daily basis she is just a whore.

>>46200814
Isn't the Marine picture from her membership ?

>>46200814
Do remind me of all the times Marine has spoken about her numerous abortions, stds from sexual encounters and all the other nasty shit Vei says.

>>46200814
>Whore, Japan
No bf.
Only horny for her fans.
Talks about sexual stuff in a less crude way.

>Whore, West
Multiple bfs
"Guys let me tell you about this insane gangbang with 5 guys where i gargled liters of cum"

>>46200814
japanese whores are good because they're expressing their repressed sexuality in a liberating environment. western whores are bad because they're coombaiting for money
it's that simple

>Marine
>Seiso as a joke
Aaayyy just cause you can type in English doesn't mean you comprehend the subtle nuances in this "joke" tomodachi. KUSA

>>46201234
>No bf.
>Only horny for her fans.
dyrbi

>>46200814
The logo is the only thing that matters. A holo could take a fat greasy shit on stream and people here would argue that it was classic japanese comedy and not completely disgusting.

>>46200814
sexuality is good when it's directed at me, I don't know why it's so hard to understand this that we need so many threads about it

>>46201234
I know multiple Japanese vtubers who have talked about blowjobs they've given though

>>46200814
One is an attractive women that likes to tease but doesn't talk about irl sex.

The other is a slut who talks about getting fucked by multiple men irl.

These are not the same.

>/vt/ is 1 person

>>46200814
Marine does it to be funny. She isn't an actual trashed out slut whore. The fact that you don't understand the difference means your wife/gf would 100% be cheating on you with a BBC if you weren't a virgin and actually had a girlfriend/wife. In conclusion, kys.

>>46200814
I still don’t get why sodapoppin said that there was a lot of blood when they banged.

>>46201325
Yes.

>>46201470
He ripped the remains of the hymen her previous boyfriend couldn't get rid of with his micropenis

>>46201394
>talks about getting fucked by multiple men

I'm going to need a source to ensure I never watch something so horrid and vile. Send me the link so I know what to stay away from.

>>46201378
They still know their place since they are japanese women, beneath men.
Western women will never accept it

>>46200814
>Idol: I love you anon
>Whore: I had the greatest gangbang with the blackest nigerians I could find last night it was lit no cap anon
>Redditor: They are literally the same IM SO CONFUUUUUUUUUSED

>>46201554
Actually one of them seems very femdom oriented

>>46201470
>>46201234
>>46201394
Why do they talk about this? What kind of audience wants to hear about nasty shit like this?

>>46201594
Speak for yourself, I wish my oshi talked about stuff like that. It's incredibly hot

>>46201669
Just go watch Veibae then?
Or kys

>>46201234
>"Guys let me tell you about this insane gangbang with 5 guys where i gargled liters of cum"
Man I wish whores were at least actually this interesting; in reality they just navigate life pretending to be decent while having boring vanilla sex with a different guy each weekend. No actual orgies, gangbangs or even kinkier plays.

>>46201355
Based, HoloGOD

>>46201669
Vshojo is your friend then. Or really an western vtuber for that matter.

>>46200982
>>46201234
>>46201394
So ecchi coombait is ok but talking about irl sexual activity is not?

>>46201409
>mutt's law
Please stop making my countrymen look bad

>>46200814
according to kson that picrel is a fact

>>46201700
But I've watched Veibae and she's talked about that stuff like thrice during in her entire career.

I wish it was at least monthly if not weekly.

>>46200814
Marine is Pure Sexy Idol

>>46200814
When a pure virgin hag pretends to be a whore its moe gap

>>46201809
Thats fine anon, there is a whole downward spiral of degeneracy at your fingertips if you just navigate twitch. I'm sure you will eventually find a dozen chuubas that can never stop talking about their degenerate lifestyles in great detail.

>>46200814
KILL YOURSELF HOLY FUCK

>>46200814
retard i watch both.
I watch very few vtubers on YT, Marine being one.
I watch very few vtubers on Twitch, Vei being one.

both are fun to watch and entertaining.
both can be whores or seiso for all i care, i would still watch both because they are entertaining and great at streaming.
a decent amount of people on /vt really need a hobby instead of finding out who to label as a "whore" and who isn't every single day.

>>46200814
>marine
here's an original song, open my treasure box anon
>veibae
yeah I birthed some of my vagina meat and got fucked on drugs one time and literally felt like a pipe xD

>>46200960
>it's unironically ok when JP does it
Does this apply to vtubers from Japan, or vtubers working for Japanese corporations? If, say, Mori Calliope did something sexual, would that be ok? Or what about Japanese vtubers working for non-Japanese companies, like, say, Kson?

>>46200814
>lesbian
>not lesbian
Wow this one's easy

>>46201758
>So ecchi coombait is ok but talking about irl sexual activity is not?

That's literally what everyone just told you. Pretending to be sexual for fun is great. Telling people about your irl encounters where you guzzled 4 cumshots after taking on 6 men at once in a portapotty at an EDM concert is not.

>>46200814
Your pic but unironically

>>46200814
>Marine
Professional entertainer: performed dozens of times, has many original songs, basically a project manager in getting her MV produced

>Veibae
Only accomplishment is being in a relationship with a rich and famous streamer (for money, not for love), hates the medium of vtubing, will be a fleshtuber in under a year

Yeah, I know which one is more deserving of respect.

>>46200814
https://streamable.com/zcx5js
If anyone can link me a holo girl saying anything similar to this I will paypal you $100

>>46202439
>Pretending to be sexual for fun is great. Telling people about your irl encounters where you guzzled 4 cumshots after taking on 6 men at once in a portapotty at an EDM concert is not.
Why is teasing ok but talking about actual sexual is stuff not? Seems like a weird, prudish distinction to make.

>>46202643
The distinction is humor and """"humor""""
You wouldn't understand.

>>46201758
There's a massive difference between "insinuations" and outright discussing sex.

>>46202643
why is spanking a kid okay but not literally beating the shit of them? this is you btw

>>46202688
>It's just a joke when MY oshi does it

>>46200814
You’re pretending to be stupid or shitposting. Ever noticed how literal avtubers masturbating on stream to their fans don’t get called whores. There’s a difference between marine telling you to grope and or rape her and vshojo talking about getting fucked. Enough with these threads

>>46202643
>guy points finger at his friend
>guy shoots pistol at his friend
Why make a distinction? kinda sus, right bros?

>>46200814
Tact.
Notice how everyone loves projekt melody but seems to hate vei. In fact most of vshojo "gen 1" is considered ok by /vt/ (melody ironmouse silver, zen odd one out), whereas "gen 2" is seemingly all hated (vei nyanners froot) for various reasons not entirely related to OP's sex question. Basically vei etc saw how successful melody was and decided to jump into the vtubing game and go "piss period blood cocks blargle fargle money now" with no tact and people noticed how fake it seemed and rightfully called it out.
>unironically ok when JP does it
this isn't a meme or because they're jp, it speaks to a vast majority of them who streamed before the vtubing boom exploded in 2020 and didn't have any delusions of being multi millionaires and as a result have lots of other things to offer as a vtuber and if they DO talk sex there's some level of tact and 'wholesomeness' to it all like Melody.

>>46202230
It's also unironically if Holo does it.

>>46202700
What's the difference, specifically why is the former good and the latter bad? That would be like saying looking at ecchi pics is ok but looking at hentai is bad.

>>46202728
Spanking and beating are both meant to be unpleasant, with latter being the more unpleasant of the two. Talking about sexual stuff is generally not, although, of course, not everyone is going to like it. I just think it's weird how some anons who browse a site as degenerate as 4chan act shocked when a girl talks about blowjobs or some shit. Like, bruh, I bet you jack off to loli tenacle hentai every night. Don't come at me with that bullshit.

>>46202643
You're trolling. One is fake and the other is real. One is a gross whore and the other is not. It's like saying "why is it ok to joke about beating someone up but it's not ok if I actually beat the shit out of someone? I don't get it."

>>46202857
Obtuse on purpose or retarded.
I dont mind someone joking around about being horny, even if they mean it.
Hearing about vaginal discharge infections from STDs, abortions and cum gusling? Why the fuck would I want to know about that?

>>46202856
>marine telling you to grope and or rape her
Ayo did she actually say this?

>>46203144
You seem like the type of guy who gets off on knowing your gf fucks other dudes

>Marine:chat be my boyfriend
>chat: no
meanwhile veibae talks about cooking with period blood and drinking cum

>>46203247
You know she did.

>>46203144
>about blowjobs or some shit
what about this >>46202563

The Marine schizo is really popping off today

>>46203195
>Hearing about vaginal discharge infections from STDs, abortions and cum gusling? Why the fuck would I want to know about that?
I can understand not wanting to hear about outright gross things like in >>46202563, but I don't see much issue with frankly discussing sexual topics in general.

>>46203144
>What's the difference, specifically why is the former good and the latter bad?
Obviously comedy is a matter of taste, but it should be obvious why people prefer one thing over the other. One teases, tantalizes the audience. The other just goes way more into graphic detail with the intention mostly to shock, especially with how some crass Youtubers arguably follow Vei's example by talking about periods or shits.

>>46200814
Left
>Maintaining kayfabe and making horniness that repels everyone part of your character
Right
>Being a camwhore with an anime avatar

>>46203296
The west should have never been allowed by international law to produce vtubers. All it does is cause destruction. The thottery is unimaginable, unstoppable, and it's spreading like a foul disease.

>>46203406
Sure, if you like that kind of content thats fine.
Cant really get mad for calling her a whore since she is quite literally the definition of one, though.

>>46203276
Don't project your insecurities onto me

>>46203369
I addressed that in >>46203406

>>46203408
You could also argue that teasing just blue balls the audience, and that you might as well just go ahead and talk more explicitly about sexual matters.

>>46203436
>>Being a camwhore with an anime avatar
What's wrong with this? At least that gives me some fap material.

>>46203602
If you want to be a cuck then do so. But whores have no place in vtubing and that's the end of this discussion. The council has spoken. You will abide by this decision or face the consequences you faggot.

>>46200814
Sexual in a way that it's specifically and uniquely directed to her fanbase is fine actually for most people here.
Any other direction like talking about past experiences, cucking them or doing disgusting sexual humor no.
Pretty easy to get.

i fucking love marine man
i'm no longer ashamed of being a dyke because of her

>>46203602
>You could also argue that teasing just blue balls the audience, and that you might as well just go ahead and talk more explicitly about sexual matters.
>What's wrong with this? At least that gives me some fap material.
Well, there you go. Most people dont watch Marine to fap, they watch her for entertainment and secondarily some fap.
You on the other hand seem to think its the main purpose of watching Vei.

>>46203602
It’s fine if you want the chuubas you watch to be like that but I’m still going to call them disgusting whores either way

>>46203406
That’s literally the difference marine discusses sexual topics they discuss sex and diseases

>>46203247
Yea you can find a recent clip of her taking chat to grope her as payment. She’s also really into mind control hentai where they can’t control themselves so she has done a few shorts like that and got cover to add that to her model

>>46202643
white faggor or shitskin, either way go back

>>46203602
>You could also argue that teasing just blue balls the audience, and that you might as well just go ahead and talk more explicitly about sexual matters.
Fair. But there's also the fact that some people just arent interested in hearing about overly explicit bits during a stream. They just save that for R18 art that their oshi approves of fans jerking off to.

>>46200814
Sexual for your audience = good
Telling sex stories about yourself with other men = bad.

>>46203602
>What's wrong with this?
Nothing, but by OP don't expect people to hold them to the same level or give them the same treatment

>>46200814
Did you ever consider that there is more than one person on the internet?

One acts like she wants to have sex with (you), the other talks about having sex with everyone except (you).

>>46204093
it’s all just me

>>46204097
How come no one in vshoujo have used those sync sex toys that let viewers connect to the streamer

you just don't understand veibae, you prude!!

>>46202363
Marine is not a lesbian.

>>46204302
thats not what your mom says

>>46203780
This
Even Marine said her stream isn't the good place """to shukkou"""

Japanese good
Westerner whore

>>46200814
Just making jokes about sex and coomerbaiting are ok, but actually having sex IRL and talking about it on stream is not.

>>46202563
upping it to $150 now
still waiting

>>46200982
Talking about sexual fantasies, and keeping it on the border of PG-13, is fine.
Talking about sexual reality, or going of the deep end on smut is not.

>>46204760
Not even Noelle, Choco RM has come close to saying anything like this.

>>46200960
spbp

>>46201378
The difference is that there is a clear distinction between AVtubers and seiso idols when it comes to Japanese streamers. You only watch the AVtubers when you're horny, and you spend the rest of the time watching regular vtubers, who are all seiso by default, and you can have a reasonable expectation of them maintaining kayfabe.
But western VTubers have no concept of kayfabe, try to mix it all together, and obscure the set of expectations viewers have for them.

>>46200814
These guys never have sex so they get jealous when the anime women they watch talk about having it with men who look hotter than them obviously. Seethe harder faggots.

>>46205891
We get it nyanners

marine = talented, funny, interesting whore
veibae = boring, lazy whore

that's it

>>46200814
and yet again marineschizo creates this thread and yet again gets completely BTFO

>>46200814
i like when vtubers are lewd personally, but if they ever show signs pof 0being an actual slut IRL, i'm out. just enjoy the vtubers you enjoy and don't let anyone tell you what you should or shouldn't enjoy. you're free to do whatever you like.

>>46200814
Being sexual is fine. Cheating on your husband is not fine.

Easy as that OP.

>>46203144
>What's the difference
implicit vs explicit
>specifically why is the former good and the latter bad?
because the latter is crass.

>>46200814
>One anon has one opinion, but this anon has a different one. I just can't wrap my head around it!

>>46200814
You're comparing what amounts to a seductress/lounge singer who uses their sexuality to entertain/titillate, to a female "comedian" who talks about how icky their vagina smells

>>46201355
why does this look fake?

i think the difference is wether you take your meds or not

>>46202230
It's love. Stop thinking rationally.

Its simple:

You can be horny for your audience like Marine. Not a whore.

You can be horny for fictional men like Coco. Not a whore.

You can joke about or even tease that you have a relationship with your same gender vtuber buddies like Kiara. Not a whore.

You can't actually be open about your sex life like Veibae. That's a whore.

You can't be in a public relationship like Nyanners. That's a a whore.

>>46212785
because denial is one of the 5 stages of grief

>>46200814
I don't give a shit about any of this shit.
I don't care how much dick Vei sucks or if she talks about it.
My issue is that she's just a fucking cunt, she's a drama causing bitch, and an awful fucking person.

I feel like the people complaining about the sex parts make her god awful actions easier to sweep under the rug,
>"Oh it's just sexists who hate women being sexual"
When that's the least of her fucking problems.

>>46217645
this anon gets it. marine is like a sister to her coworkers who even cries with them when shit happens.

veibae and by extension half of vshojo tries to stay relevant through drama. i watched vshojo all of 2021 and its was great for a bit they had "unity" were actaully fun to watch, but i have no idea what happened behind the scenes that vei slowly started ghosting her coworkers. all around the same time they all started shitting on the cringe-tuber nux i guess .t

TLDR veis known to be a bitch. marine on the other hand is praised by her cowokers for being someone they can always talk too

>>46200814
Just like in pop radio, it's marketable to lonely teens/adults for women to act like they *want* sex with (you), it's not marketable to act like they already had sex.

>>46200814
It can be so good. And they deserve to be encouraged to have children of their own, for how wonderful were they. Whore just means someone who doesn't have any money and is presently an endearing term.

>>46203179
>I don't get it.
one is a crime, you are just retarded

>>46200814
I don't want to watch a woman flirt with her boyfriend on stream, now fuck off.

Marine seduces and teases her fans
Veibae talks about her kinky sexual experiences

There is literally a difference between a girl being sexy and a girl talking about her sex life.

>>46202563
Fucking disgusting, who unironically watches this garbage and genuinely has a good time?

There's a high chance your oshi is a closet whore, I have respect for Veibae because she's up front about liking dick and doesn't pretend to be someone she isn't. I honestly feel like she intimidates people on this board because she's a confident normie and she doesn't pull punches with her comedy, and she treats vtubing as just another form of being a streamer instead of the kayfabe shit Hololive does. Unironically her AI Dungeon streams with Nyanners are funnier than anything a Hololive/Nijisanji member has EVER done.

I can understand if you were someone here at the start for Sora in 2016 or whenever, and you appreciate and have a love for how vtubing originally was, but therein lies the issue, you have to face the fact that many people are into vtubing now through the english side and weren't on /jp/ years back. They don't care about how things used to be done, they just want to look at a cute avatar and watch a streamer simultaneously, not have a proxy girlfriend.

>>46200814
This is your brain in western social media if you can't tell the difference between the two.

Marine even as a coomer is a good person, Veibae is not.

Marine has talent in others fields other than streaming, Veibae is not even good her main job.

Marine at most fingers herself while reading some doujin in her room. Veibae gets 5 strangers' dicks while stoned.


End.

>>46200814
One is a talented horny idol and the other is a twitch hoe in the vt street

>>46221584
Sir, I am here for the character.

Why are Vshojofags obsessed with Marine and owning "JPcels" ?

>>46204643
simple as

>>46201758
>So ecchi coombait is ok but talking about irl sexual activity is not?

Yes everyone is a coomer these day male or female beside Christians that take their faith seriously
What matter is if you got run over by a thousand men or you are virgin/loyal

>>46201478
Based.

>>46222939
why are you buying clothes at the soup store???

thats the thing that bothers me the most about all of this EN hate: just stick to watching JP? stay in your lane? thats all you have to do.

it's just goes to show how entitled all you JP fags are. "there are girls who play with their digital dolls in ways that arent for MY enjoyment and therefore theyre WHORES"

at least open your windows. get some fresh air. the weathers been pretty nice

>>46221584
what is this retarded newfag talking about ? there is a difference of good fanservice and your entire personality is just being a whore because you're boring and untalented, there is a reason why people like Marine but not Veibai

>>46200814
STOP GIVING HIM (YOU)S IM FUCKING SICK OF SEEING THIS SAME SHIT THREAT EVERY FKING DAY GO EAT SOME RAT POISON YOU GOD FORSAKEN VERMIN

>Twitch
>camgirl
is not a whore

???

Being a whore is OK when hololive does it.
Turn costumers into cultists, brands into religions, etc etc.

>>46228348
Stay upset, whore consumer. It takes seconds to veer off, call a whore a whore (Vei is a whore.), and then veer back. Get your whores to stay off the dick and balls for a minute and maybe they wouldn’t get reminded about their whoredom.

Hmm, this thread needs a dash of Current Non-Outdated Vei

>>46221584
You’re one of those i don’t watch hololive let me say something i don’t know about. Alot of them are whores some don’t hide it some just don’t bring it up on stream. If you want to hear a girl talk about a train getting run on her go ahead that’s your prerogative. By and large women aren’t funny if you aren’t here for anything vtubers bring watch a male streamer. If you’re watching vtubers you obviously care about kayfabe you’re just using it as an excuse because you sunk too much time into a whore now you pretend it’s cool to hear about her multiple sexual partners when you wouldn’t listen to a random stranger talk to you about it.

>>46231890
It’s an east vs west issue where I can laugh and find JP ecchi shit enjoyable. Whereas for EN vtubers I just think they’re whores as I am much more accustomed to the western whore and their behavior. People say it’s okay when Hololive does it, but I’m more of the opinion that it’s okay when any JP org does it. Holo, Niji, and so on. Western whores aren’t a novelty like eastern ecchi bitches.

Vei Facts #1: She accidentally wounded her finger when her shot glass broke when she and Chance were playing Monopoly with 2 other couples. She nearly died.

>>46200960
It's really only okay when Marine and Okayu do it.

>>46201714
like, if you're a slut, at least go all out on it. half-assing it is just lame as hell

Vei Facts #2: She spent the earlier part of this year going on a vacation with Sodapoppin in France and rented a log cabin to drink wine and warm themselves by the fire. They ate a lot of French food and had sex.

>>46200814
I'll make it easy for someone like you to understand:
>Astolfo good
>Trannies bad

>>46202439
it's kind of like making homoerotic jokes with your male friends, but not actually being gay.

>>46232372
Vei fact #3 she’s a jealous retarded whore who had the temerity to be upset that people like Shylilly were “copying” her voice.

>>46221584
They are not funny at all, they're just ridiculously crass and disgusting. And I sincerely hope Veibae exaggerates how big of a whore she is, because it honestly sounds like she is an STD super spreader from the way she talks. Unironically the world would be saved billions in healthcare if she were to get accidentally choked to death during one of her sex binges.

Vei Facts #4: Her favorite RPG game is Gothic. She has played through and finished Gothic 1 and Gothic 2.

>>46232691
Sodapoppin WILL fix her.

>>46202643
Because one allows the men that you're manipulating for income to keep their immersion and the other is snapping them back to reality while still expecting a paycheck.

You are being paid to facilitate a fantasy. That is the only reason the streamer economy ever became an accepted practice. Subscriptions, donations, bits, superchats are an accepted practice by the community at large because people fundamentally misunderstand what it is they are buying. Nobody wants to buy what you're actually selling. So there are two choices: keep up the charade, or let people come to their senses and have your income reduced to a reasonable level instead of that of a celebrity.

Vei Facts #5: She really wanted to raise a zoo with her boyfriend Austin, but since they have to rent an apartment now it is no longer possible. She wanted to raise an alpaca, a goat, a wild boar among other animals.

>>46232850 (me)
*in Austin, Texas

Vei Facts #6: Ever since reaching 1 Millioj Followers on Twitch, she has changed her handle from twitch.tv/veibae to twitch.tv/vei
This has made a lot of her fans confused initially but they eventually found their way back to her actual channel.

your takeaway should be this board is the paparazzi guy in GTAV

>>46221584
>hear this anon out and check out her AI dungeon stream with nyanners
>they get sidetracked and Vei does a bit on trying to smell her own asshole
This is exactly what the anons in this thread are talking about. There's a line of tact that Vei et al freely step over that holos do not. Why is so hard for you guys to understand?

>>46232935
Why

>>46204643
True, i dunno how they always missed this.

>>46200960
spbp

>>46200814
You just a western trannie, you wouldn't understand

>>46200814
Anons don't know how to make up their mind

>>46203129
Nyanners was a founding member of VShojo

The difference between JP "whores" and western whores is that the latter are incapable of shame. Western vtubers will talk about their std discharges, they'll queef on camera, they'll tell a story about how they got pink eye from someone jizzing in their eye. It's genuinely disgusting, and the fact that westerners don't bully this behavior out of each other is just strange.

Compare that to Marine who's a pervert sure, but she's always tasteful about it. She's never once veered into "I lost my appetite" territory. When JP women act whorish it's more like they're exploring their own sexuality, when EN women act whorish it seems like they've been totally desensitized to it.

>>46200814
Whorejo shills eternally seething at Marine

It's ok when vtubers are horny towards their female coworkers, fictional characters or their own fans (fans in general, not one specific fan)

It's not ok when they are horny towards real people they can actually meet or specific single individual fans or male coworkers/ecelebs.

>>46201402
Yea, me.

>>46201758
>So ecchi coombait is ok but talking about irl sexual activity is not?
Yes.

>>46232373
>Implying that that logic is any better

>>46232691
>Unironically the world would be saved billions in healthcare if she were to get accidentally choked to death during one of her sex binges.
Holy based

>>46232076
>>46232226
>>46232372
>>46232749
>>46232850
>>46232935
I don't know why but there is something wrong with her face, she really looks like a hoe.

>>46203755
>i'm no longer ashamed of being a dyke because of her
Show Marine membership or GTFO

>>46231890
But enough about Nijisanji

>>46200814
>I'm confused... is it good or bad for a vtuber to be sexual?
being sexual is good
saying cocks cum dicks every three seconds is bad

Retard
Marine had multiple boyfriends during her time in Hololive and she even cheated on them

>>46203129
It helps that melody has an explicitly sexual stream and a regular one. She keeps the two at a reasonable distance. Plus she doesn't talk about doing things IRL, which everyone here has pointed out is the real issue, since it breaks the fantasy.

>>46241502
all me

>>46200814
I fucking hate vei

>>46221584
>everyone is actually just like vei but she's honest about it
The classic cope

>>46241703
i miss that cow outfit of mel's please wear it again mel, i came to that video so many times.....

>>46201234
this
jp holos don't talk about abortions or about getting fucked daily

/vt/ is filled eith hypocritical coomera. Don't take anything on this board seriously. It's literally all mentally ill freaks.

I just want a slut with heart of gold chuuba...

>>46200814
There's a difference between being erotic and being crass

>>46200814
Is that official art of Marine on the left? Is her ass really that fat?

>>46201714
Based

>>46202230
>Kson
>Japanese

Anon...

>>46201714
This is just disgusting

>>46200814
It depends bro. It's a niche.
So you choose a niche and stick to it, tell people the truth, dont try and deceive people.
Like for example melody. She's a camtuber, she doesnt hide it so the fans know exactly what they want and what they get.
And you have proper vtuber idols like the holo girls that are much more focused on being idols than shlicking on stream and the fans know what to expect and what they want from them which is more purity and maybe some teehee jokes here and there but thats it etc.

But we have an issue when the vtuber sluts it up, talks about sex constantly and maybe her past exes yet wants to be seen as some pure idol. It just doesnt mix.

>>46201355
>JP idols
Teases about it, but never actually does it.
>EN """"Idols""""
Pretend to be innocent but does it all the time.
It's really simple, you would understand if you weren't retarded.

The issue people have with vshojo is that they are (most but not all) snakes willing to fuck eachother over at the drop of a hat
Nuxtaku the cringe retard that he is, really liked the vshojo girls, he had their backs and tried to protect them and the fans and they stabbed him in the back and made him seem like he was a fucking weirdo creep that was out to get them and betrayed them going against their wishes and somehow hurting them.
Seeing their reactions and the reactions of their friends like snuffy and such when he had permission to make the video in the first place then after backlash, only what zen and silvervale i think? apologized. Should tell you all that you need to know.
Melody, ironmouse, froot, hime, nyanners, snuffy etc dogpiled the fuck out of him lying about bullshit like how hurt they were by his actions and how they begged for their safety

I think he is a weirdo and I don't like him. But damn he got done so dirty. Especially with the screenshots of him working with the mods and doing what they wanted him to do so he could post the video.
They really wanted to let their fans get scammed because it might look like vshojo company doesnt have EVERYTHING under control instantly

>>46200814
It's called hypocrisy, anon.
Source: Verification not required.

Talent freedom

No one thinks of Marine as a sesio idol. What a retarded comparison

>>46203144
>Like, bruh, I bet you jack off to loli tenacle hentai every night.
Holy projection
My favorite okazu is JK and OL

you tell me.

it honestly depends on how they execute it

Marine offers a lot more than just being horny. Songs, art, dancing, skits and being Japanese.
While the only thing I know about Vei is that she is a member of Vshojo has a rich bf and she apparently talked about some disgusting stuff.
Honestly I don't have problem with either it's up to for people to decide what they like.

>>46200814
Just looking at Vei's avatar discuss me. I once tried to watch one of her stream and 5 mins in she's already talking about sex, jesas.

>>46256450
*disgust
Fck auto correct.

>>46202230
Kson wasn't Japanese when she worked for a Japanese company, she definitely isn't now.

When a vtuber talks about all the guys she fucks and all the abortion she has, that means the character she plays as fucks random men and has had a dozen abortions. But if she never mentions all that while in character then the made up character on your computer monitor isnt a whore.
All women fuck around, all the women behind your oshis take dick, but as long as they keep it to themselves then it's not effecting the vtuber persona

>>46256759
Exactly. If you watch any fleshtuber female, then you have no right to criticize vtubers for their behavior because you love whores. But the entire appeal of vtubers is the anime world is the only place you can even pretend women are human but once the actor behind the character pulls back the curtain, it's over.

>>46256180
You put it pretty well. What Marine is doing is using her eros in her art and profession. When she does touch upon erotic topics she does so with nuance and creativity. Because she is expressing herself through art the immersion isnt broken and there is value to what she is expressing. What vei is doing isnt an expression of anything, she is literally just talking about what a used up nasty slut she is and how much of a graveyard her battlescarred womb is. It is soulless and bankrupt.

>>46200960
SPBP

>>46246266
Anon, that's from one of her official music videos

>>46204214
>who is ProjektMelody

Why do slut tubers not market to NTR crowd?

>>46200814
Japan provides fanservice to give people what they want sometimes down to their basic desires.

English speaking countries provide fanservice by checking diversity boxes.

One does it because they understand the audience and want to give them what they set up previously with their work. The other does it because they feel like they must to get money.

English girls do it only for money. Japanese girls do it for service.

>>46200960
it wasnt okay when Rushia did it

I like when chuubas that are clearly virgins or inexperienced act sexual, it’s cute. Like maybe Finana for example

If we wanna remove the west is whore bias, lets compare Marine with Gundou who are both Japanese.

One does fanservice while the other is a whore

>>46201514
but soda has a micropenis as well. there's a reason why he had a penis pump for the longest time