/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

so what did we learn from the last thread anons?

last thread was ok

>>46186430
Slavery is based

>>46186366
Irys then? She talks about nothing but anime in her streams.
Could work as a "BaeIrys" thing too.
Imagine a regularly programmed "Baerys DBZ Watchalong" once a week or something...

>>46186430
Hololive is the ideal streaming+vtubing landscape

>>46186061
sadly no.

Good numbers from Ayame.

I always imagined that the sweat from her buttocks crack smell of citrus

>>46186430
Open VC during streams is only okay when NijiCN does it.

>>46186473
Pretty sure that would be absolute number poison after the first week. Might even be for the first one as well.

>>46186430

>>46186395
Another day, another HoloGold
Feels good to be a HoloChad

>>46186498
I wouldn't dare o put my nose anywhere near that ass

>>46186081
I NEED MORE HENTAI GAMES ABOUT HOLOLIVE PLEASE
AAAIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>46186430
/#/'s IQ reclined

>>46186430
'I hate pedo' posting doesn't work anymore

>>46186545
>nijisanji joke

Has Kaela ever explained why she streams for such long hours?

>>46186473
>public watchalong
>weekly
>baerys
please stop stacking fucking debuffs on top of eachother

Reading the previous thread I learn that there is high demand of Hololive H-games and Slavery.
Thus, I'll be making one and use the profits to buy cover stocks. Expect delivery somewhere around late June

>>46186611
i was working and took a nap after

>>46186430
Miko got a disappointing number. Thread was peaceful. 35p blame id debuff.

>>46186492
The gold standard

>>46186657
She even had to try and use Pekora tower for content. Spectrum is going to go mad from the clips.

>>46186625
She just likes playing games and streaming. Even if she is not streaming she is playing games offline

>>46186611
i can't cunnypost from work PC

>>46186625
She is a lonely hag that finds companionship in her audience

>>46186491
Marine has one made by a nip
https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ408462.html

>>46179720
Japanese AI vtuber debuting April 12
https://www.youtube.com/@ms_rinna

>>46186625
She literally has nothing going on with her life besides Hololive.

Sorry jewfag 1k is for adult, also
>here is some of the benefits of joining a vtuber agency because I'm tired of being told that the job I enjoy so much is the same as slavery
Fucking kek

ATTENTION

WE ARE NOW ENTERING EURO HOURS

ATTENTION

>>46186395
>HOLOLIVE BOARD
>HOLOLIVE THREAD

>>46186545
>would you?

>>46186473
No, anime watchalongs aren't the meta
Like I explained, a "Meme teachalong" is the way to go, a series where a member with a lot of meme knowledge teaches her about internet culture

>>46186762

>>46186762
I have already been here for a while

>>46186755
The jew shilling tactics are going for a more subtle approach this time, huh?

>>46186395
The problem with Kson's argument is that while everything she says honestly makes sense.
It just seems she's so surprised that a lot of audiences actually do not want the crazy, pervy, drama inducing type of Vtubers out there.

Honestly when you get older and have been in the know with this type of things, those type of Vtubers are honestly kind of meh. People that grow older in this generation tend to actually prefer those that are great at talks and those that are able to actually entertain their audience without needing to do those kinds of things excessively.

in my opinion, Sora should use her natural voice like she sometimes slips when talking to Gozaru now, her voice is hot

>>46186625
She is the kind of person that when she does something, it's all or nothing. 110% effort.

>>46186611
It worked, for a certain definition of the word.
>>46180109

>>46186366
Bae doesn't know more about anime than Fauna and probably Gura either
You're conflating Bae's extremely narrow interests with her having actual knowledge. Bae's "knowledge" isn't "more" she just is extremely deep in a very niche aspect of anime culture. She fucking loves male seiyuus and otome anime but will completely flop when it comes to shit people actually want to watch

Look at Fauna's last minecraft stream and it's the perfect example. Even if Fauna has missed out on a couple big anime like Re:Zero, she still knows what is popular in the anime scene and can talk with her viewers about seasonal. Bae can ONLY talk about anime that lines up with her narrow tastes of "weird shit only fujoyume otaku care about"
In that sense her knowledge isn't actually knowledge because she doesn't know about "anime." She knows about fujoyume, shoujo, and seiyuu shit.

>>46186473
IRyS would be a good pick for old shit like DBZ. She good do stuff with IRyS, Fauna, or Mumei for modern seasonals

>>46186625
She said that if she wasn't streaming she would just be playing games by herself anyway.

>>46186625
she is like (You) but instead of wasting her time in a noodle cooking chinese ink drawing forum she plays video games instead

>>46186829
I just prefer cute noises nowadays and even that is rare without a massive heaping of drama or irl stuff in indies

>>46186822
I posted numbers and you don't choke on a fucking chode

Honestly speaking I have never seen anyone demanding vtubers to be like Hololive except /here/. Is it really a sentiment shared by a lot of people? Because last time I checked people wanted to change Hololive not other way around.

>>46186395
/news/ anchor
Reply with a short description of the news and a link to the source!

News from the last thread:
>AI Vtuber Rinna debut April 12th, JST
https://twitter.com/ms_rinna/status/1640949405049057280
>Interview with YAGOO during the listing ceremony
https://c-eye.co.jp/eq/ipo-eq/66679
>Business Insider JP piece on COVER corp
https://www.businessinsider.jp/post-267448
>ID3 1st Anni merch sales start
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1640715362856493057
>Special announcement on HoloID channel, April 6th, JST
https://twitter.com/hololive_Id/status/1640972057562472448
>NijiEN announces next round of audition
https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1640972058153582598
>Sakura Ritsuki birthday live April 1st, JST
https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1641002321223225346
>Kamitsubaki fest is tomorrow
https://twitter.com/kamitsubaki_jp/status/1641032454680223744\
>Project V new episode on NTV March 30th, JST; Hosted by Riria Ito, a report on Holo 4th Fes
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1641039720518934531


Old news:
>COVER corp listing on JPX
>Cover report on company growth
JP: https://contents.xj-storage.jp/xcontents/AS05169/e0e971e1/b03b/4687/ae7f/63210c2dbc9d/140120230327536365.pdf
EN: https://cover-corp.com/ir/news/230327_5253_COVER_Materials_for_Growth_Opportunities_and_Strategies.pdf
EN, deleted version: https://litter.catbox.moe/iiqo9m.pdf
>YAGOO's comments on the listing
JP: https://note.com/tanigo/n/n53ae40253b90
EN: https://medium.com/@tanigox/listing-and-future-427d1d4aa6ba
>Musk to change "For You" recommendation on Twitter, only verified accounts and accounts you follow will appear
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1640502698549075972
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1640800519894736896
>Stock and sales figure leak on NijiEN merch (the leak has been patched: >>46099339)
>>46097530

>>46186914
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B_oehIpLTY

>>46186832
I hate high-pitchy anime girl voice so fucking much....

>>46186929
People want what hololive has without any of the guidelines

>>46186755
i have never met a british jew before

*GAIJIN TALLY FOR 29 MAR 2023*
>5,328: IRyS (HoloEN)
>5,225: Dacapo (Algorhythm Project)
>5,179: Luca (NijiEN) est gains from raid/s: 205

>>46186829
It is seriously funny to see that the one corpo that stuck with their views in regards being a little strict with their talents, is the one that's actually doing really well right now with little to no drama and happy employees.
I remember when people were so sure that doing that was a death sentence and other corpos are going to swallow them whole.

>>46186985
can you blame them?

>Watame 14k
>Iroha 8k
Minecraft numbers are lower than usual, did the tournament kill HoloMC buff?

>>46187041
Yep now we all want males or no watch

>>46186625

>>46184428
Point out where in that document it says music views make alot of money. Go through any archive that shows mori out selling Ina/Gura with less stock. Go do the math on YouTube how much they make off impressions vs actual view count and this is a rough estimate. Now check the range for 1 million views on regular videos. Like i said she’s probably in the top 20 but more likely bottom 5 with the rest of myth. It’s still double what everyone below the top 20 bring in though.

>>46187035
>people were so sure that doing that was a death sentence and other corpos are going to swallow them whole
Meanwhile
>brave
>evil.
>niji

>>46187037
No, but i refuse to sympathize with them if they expect to get that without putting in effort or adhering to some form of standard

>>46186929
Nobody is demanding that they thee vtubers be like Hololive, but it's pretty clear hololive is treated as the gold standard and anything that deviates significantly from that gets derided.

>>46187041
> Break wall garden
>viewers go watch outside wall garden instead
Just how HoloEn broke it and gave all their viewership away. I bet the tourist MC fans are watching the other MC streams they saw yesterday

>>46187041
No, just slow day

>>46186762
It's over

>>46186929
Even /here/ you have a bunch of people claiming Hololive NEEDS to change despite their success. Idk where kekson got that people want Hololive as the standard of vtubing. Why cant they leave Hololive alone and do their own thing?ahh right because they dont get attention that way

>>46187146
>gave all their viewership away
never happened

>>46186929
I would say early nijiEN when it was only Lazulight was like that but that ended a long time ago

>>46186933
Boy these corporate philosophy page make it seem like Rinna will be the most boring corpo tuber ever.
http://rinna.co.jp/about/philosophy/

Here is a good news for today:
If you remember that account which was an Holo anti account, I got this notification

Holo antis are in the mud!!!!

https://twitter.com/nanashimumei_en/status/1641124357635293203
She responded to the allegations

>>46186929
>I have never seen anyone demanding vtubers to be like Hololive except /here/. Is it really a sentiment shared by a lot of people?
Nope, for most people the sentiment is the exact same displayed by kson, which could be summarized as
>if people reward Hololive (and their sanitized, restrictive and obedient management style) with fame and fortune, very soon all of the rest of the market will either have to shift to the same style of content or die

It is the equivalent of "acting white", but for the vtuber community, anyone acting like Hololive, or praising people for acting like Hololive must be stamped out otherwise they make the whole rest of the community look like niggers

>>46186929
No.
It's just a changing of the tide. A lot of people are now older and realized that there are Vtubers that are as fun or even much more fun to watch that aren't drama hogs. It's not about Hololive actually. it's just that the standards have now risen.

>>46187034
>MARCH 2023 GAIJIN GOLDS
1) Mori (HoloEN) - 18,696 - Monopoly Plus (w/ Ame, Magni, Vesper)
2) Vox (NijiEN) - 8,614 - Return Zatsudan
3) Gura (HoloEN) - 67,405 - 3D Showcase
4) Ame (HoloEN) - 39,353 - 3D Showcase
5) Hololive English (HoloEN) - 57,045 - First Myth 3D Collab
6) Kobo (HoloID) - 7,407 - Hogwarts Legacy
7) Kiara (HoloEN) - 24,018 - Unbelivably Believable Offcollab (w/ Myth)
8) Shu (NijiEN) - 10,195 - Return Zatsudan
9) Ina (HoloEN) - 14,532 - Minecraft
10) Vox (NijiEN) - 10,791 - 24-hour Charity Stream Part 1
11) Pomu (NijiEN) - 19,891 - New Outfit Reveal
12) Mochikomame (Indie) - 25,790 - Announcement
13) IRyS (HoloEN) - 8,742 - Minecraft
14) Kronii (HoloEN) - 20,132 - Birthday Celebration
15) Vox (NijiEN) - 6,437 - Little Misfortune
16) Shu (NijiEN) - 9,912 - Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (w/ NijiEN males, multi-POV)
17) Bae (HoloEN) - 9,761 - Karaoke
18) Vox (NijiEN) - 13,240 - Unarchived Billie Eilish-only Karaoke
19) Ren (NijiEN) - 12,746 - Unarchived Karaoke
20) Mumei (HoloEN) - 8,205 - Post-Holofes Zatsudan
21) Fauna (HoloEN) - 12,942 - Birthday Countdown and Unarchived Karaoke
22) Fauna (HoloEN) - 16,885 - Birthday Stream
23) Mori (HoloEN) - 10,321 - Holoyoi (w/ Lui and Chloe)
24) Shu (NijiEN) - 7,540 - Valorant (w/ Reimu, Elira, Uki, Astel, Multi-POV)
25) Ina (HoloEN) - 8,656 - Post-Holofes Zatsudan
26) Gura (HoloEN) - 23,054 - Minecraft
27) IRyS (HoloEN) - 13,254 - Unarchived Karaoke
28) Gura (HoloEN) - 21,465 - Minecraft
29) IRyS (HoloEN) - 5,328 - Megaman Zero

>GOLDS PER COMPANY
19x: Cover
9x: AnyColor
1x: Indie

>GOLDS PER BRANCH
18x: HoloEN
9x: NijiEN
1x: HoloID

>GOLDS PER STREAMER
4x: Vox
3x: Gura, IRyS, Shu
2x: Fauna, Ina, Mori
1x: Ame, Bae, Hololive English, Kiara, Kobo, Kronii, Mochikomame, Mumei, Pomu, Ren

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
33pts: Fauna
24pts: Vox
22pts: IRyS
16pts: Kobo, Shu
15pts: Gura
13pts: Mori
11pts: Ina, Kiara
10pts: Bae
9pts: Axel, Mumei
8pts: Luca, Mysta
6pts: Pomu, Ren
5pts: Ame, Hololive English, Kronii, Mochikomame
4pts: Fulgur, Kaela
3pts: Dacapo, Risu, Uki
2pts: Selen
1pt: Elira, Nina

>>46187307
>moom did 9/11

>>46187155
slow day where top slaves were at each other's jugular for ccv, and still overall had 120+k - 150+k total for primetime today

>>46186929
Hololive is the undisputed number #1 Vtuber market leader. And due to the overwhelming popularity and influence that the hololive brand commends, the trends are naturally set by them (on YouTube).

I pity the Virtual Twitch indie streamers that look up to the poison that is Vshojo and this is exactly the reason why most Virtual YouTuber fans on YouTube absolutely detest and hate Vwhorejo style vtuber's guts. Basically. Hololive is synonymous with Vtubers everywhere except on twitch. And Twitch's circle jerking will never change the reality of which we are in.

>>46186755
Who said that line ?

>>46187041
They straight up flirting with Pekora

>>46186390
Well somebody different keeps saying and Kiara was I not supposed to give my exact same 2 cents again. My point wasn’t about people caring they asked about Kiara like she was no different then fauna, irys and Gura I showed why she is different. Someone said axel has another mixed gender song in the works i don’t watch homos or go to catalog for them so could be a lie could have already happened but if she’s not in it nor brings it up sure that song was solely about collabing with Ina then

>IRyS EN Gold
Damn it feels good to be a gangstaRyS

ikea shark jewtuber hit 1k

>>46187041
>Watame 14k
>Iroha 9k
>Sora 5k
>Kaela 4k
>32k watching minecraft
>It's 2AM in JP
Try make smarter bait retard

>>46187339
Isn't because a lot of those Vtubers complaining are just jealous that the almost the whole EN sphere are doing the drama baiting thing but Holo stuck with their guns and now people are noticing that it's actually nice?

>>46187489

>>46187507
InclineRyS

>>46187550
lol

Remember when vesper used to mog kiara and he said he is trying to proof yuro as a viable timeslot? What the hell happened to him?

>>46187510
2 streams in a row.
We are 4views now boysss

>>46187577
cope luxiemkek

>>46187453
>>46186929
>Hololive is the undisputed number #1 Vtuber market leader
Meanwhile in reality

>>46187453
Nobody would care if twitch/small corpo indies and vwhorejo stayed in their lane but they constantly try to suckle every ounce of association and clout from Holo that they can.

>>46187510
ok?

>>46186929
Is not a directly reasoning.
is not that people want hololive but hololive now has the least amount of drama.
Even if drana end as a nothing burger is just tiresome to deal with people calling your oshi a whore, fighting unicorns and antiunicorns alike, trying to defend your oshi everytime she/he makes coom jokes, Have to deal with twitch ecelebs.
Is just more comfortable to be a holofan nowdays or a small indie fan.

EN3 let's gooo

>>46186762
Jewbrits on her latest shorts. Please don't call me a jewshill I'm was just busying myself watching shorts then she appeared I never watch her streams

i can't believe tallyanon is fucking dead

>>46187453
>Holobronies trying to rewrite history
Ironmouse won the best vtuber award. If that doesn't prove that she's more relevant than holo then I don't know what will.

>>46187371
9/11 was owlside job?

>>46187585
>What the hell happened to him?
Profound retardation, first ever suspension of it's kind, menhera tendencies and ybdbd

>>46187659
Cacabros we are dominating this week

>>46187034
Jesus Christ the absolute state of EN numbers.

Still not bad as that time we had to lower the bar to 4k to have one stream on the tally.

HERE WE GO AGAIN BROTHER

>>46187637
Just mentioning numbers in the numbers thread.

>>46187725
>lorgarandhorus.png

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY-_bEKgG48

OHNONONONO SAPKEK STATUS?

but seriously, impressed with Gura's build considering her minecraft level

>>46187708
That got enough backlash we lost some bronze medals due to en tally not doing it anymore

>>46187034
what the actual fuck is Algorhythm Project

>>46186713
so Suisei is 4% of Cover total revenue?

>>46186929
What you seeing is pure seethe. Hololive is pushed to "golden" standards and that angers people. That's why they want Hololive to change. Because they believe it's easier for them to drag Hololive down, then raise themselves up.

>>46187624
Anon... Stock market is about ROI, and Cover is terrible at it because they give too much cut for their chuubas.

>>46187678
SUPER 3D!

>>46187459
how wet were her pantsu in that moment

>>46187813
AYAYAYAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>46187339
That is such a retarded statement. The fact that nijisanji can still flourish despite hosting some of the worst human being imaginable in their EN counterpart already debunks the theory. Yes Hololive is the gold standard and has the biggest mindshare in the world. But that doesn't mean hololive style of vtubing is the only way to go. Well it is if you want to become popular and respected.
>whole rest community look like niggers
But they are. All that degeneracy from Twitch tubers and having to resort to coom content are generally being frowned down upon by people. They're also destroying vtubers image in the west. But you vwhorejos grifters does not give a shit about vtubers image right? You feel entitled to change the culture from within because of your superiority complex. Then do that and stay with your degenerate audience and leave us alone.

>>46187489
You are painfully stupid, and I wasn't just referring to last thread, you've made a post on the same subject several times before.
Trying to conflate the logical idol stance of being entirely professional when it comes to homos but not completely pretending they don't exist does not incur any disdain from actual girl only enjoyers, and is only a point of contention when homobegging shitposters attempt to use it as some sort of gotcha moment, as if it's similar in any way to habitually collabing with the homos. There's an obvious difference and to pretend there isn't is simply acting in bad faith.

>>46187759
>all that wool
s-she put lightning rod on top?

>>46187785
Suisei's #1 on that list without a doubt

People are just tired about unnecessary drama. Why doesn't Kson realize that?
When all you see is drama and Vtubers doing stupid shit, menhera'ing around, and whatever, seeing some sane Vtubers actually doing well is world-changing.

>>46187813
you call?

why is this good tho for a homo
https://youtu.be/cqCv4JRg4sk?t=123

>>46187778
Something that's better than niji apparently
niji is dead

>>46187856
Masterless behavior

>>46187790
Basically
>Success breeds jealousy
in practice

>>46187678
If Ironmouse is more relevant than Holo, then why Kson is seething so much?

>>46187790
Sasuga nijiniggers

>>46187881
Super 3D is so hot bros...how can other corpos even compete....

>>46187759
fucking shark, always playing offstream. Another wasted cripple gold

>>46187889
screaming?

>>46187866
She argued that she's too lazy to use glass and wants to actually finish a project for once

>>46187856
is she riding her slave?

>>46187908
doesn't mouse and the rest of the whore house wanna go the flesh streaming route now that the grift is over for vtubers

>>46187866
Three of them actually

I don't know if you guys noticed this but NijiEN have not do any raid since yesterday. It's at the same time when we discuss about Raid with low retention killed YouTube algorithm

>>46187633
>Pointless graphs that prove nothing
Anonchama... Nijisanji's marketing team removed their "#1 vtuber group" for a reason you know? Not to mention the fact that Vox literally did a full DOGEZA and kneeled before hololive's overwhelming and unreachable influence by praising Gawr Gura literally just a couple of days ago. Face the facts mate. It's not healthy to keep living in denial.

dwarf died???

>>46188020
MOST

>>46187889
Oh, I haven’t listened to it yet today. Thank you for the reminder

>>46188020

>>46187993
The mating ritual is not yet done, here we see her offering herself up, opening her cavity, ready to accept her slaves

>>46187895
I kek'd

>>46188000
Yeah why do you think Kson is paranoid about vtubers ending in 5 years, is not that people will stop being Vtubers is just that VSHOJO will stop being Vtubers

>>46188048
the elves finally got him

Meant for.
>>46187624
Not you.
>>46188041

>>46187034
What happened to clickbait-charged Mysterio streams?
>>46187663
>>46187455
Dumbfucks I did it again

>>46188048
He died of cumming to LaCunny's knife ears pics.

>>46188107
But that is a completely self caused issue?

>>46188020
>>46188054
Anon spiffing brit made a video on it and that why we even know about it to begin with, stop sucking your own cock

>>46188131
he bailed

>>46188116
you're welcome

>>46187759
I mean, Gura's "real" home is a cave nearby Fauna's tree, so winning?
Though I'm a bit surprised no one in chat told any JP members that Gura only use that as her storage?
Nah, who am I kidding, Gura might abandoned her hole in the future, but I still like the idea that EN are mostly live away from JP area, I like that they tend to build into the environment instead of flattening.

>>46188020
>thinking YouTube algorithm will help them after all of these shit things
and yeah without raid they got shitter number without doubt kek.

>>46187961
Nigga, at this point Gura could stream an entire hour in silence and get it. In fact, she literally did that a few months ago. Look at this this shit: >>46187034.

>>46187908
Kson is seething because she was regarded as a hero after leaving Holo and now she's realizing that everything they did for her was for her own good.
While she's actually doing fine, she's now seeing the other side is not actually as good as she expected. It took a while, but now it's all out there.

>>46188107
Also vtubing is here to stay it may get less popular but a cute anime girl streaming will always be a thing

>>46188207
I doubt she will come back to the hole since Okayu announced she was gonna make her house next to her trident.

>>46188144
Do you think a woman with an ego like her would ever think that her whorehouse of an agency is in the wrong side?

>>46188144
They want to do things like 10IRL VS 1 stream with a model and still be considered vtubers, if the viewers become "slave owners" like Kson likes to say they won't be able to have this benefit

>>46188041
Vox praised Gura?

>>46187624
All that money and yet the 3d concert is still dead

give me a thought provoking one liner about kson

>>46188144
Yes but in modern internet culture everything is always someone elses fault. Similar to Russian victim complex.

>>46188356
Hololive winning bros!

>>46188107
Anon where do you think most of en indies are from if not twitch. If your going to get en3 their most likely going to be vtubers from twitch under vshojo influence. Things could have been different if hololive took some time and led the en market but they left it to vshojo so this entire problem is hololive problem.

Honestly, Ksons rant has made me realize that she is afraid of the cancerous twitch-like behaviors in vtubing might be in their way to die out if she is that concerned about it

>>46188341
he said that gura was the only one who was able to break through mainstream during the under the table stream with rt gaming

>>46188341
did you just wake up from a coma?

>>46188391
>>46188433
Wealth is the slave of a wise man and the master of a fool

>>46188041
You can't call yourself "undisputed number #1 Vtuber market leader" if you get mogged in finances. Besides the gap only exists in the West and SEA. Nijisanji is more popular than hololive in Japan and there's only a small difference in subs and CCV between Kuzuha and Pekora/Marine/Miko. He can occasionally mog them under the same playing field as well.

>>46188356
Covid will end any day now. The postponed concert will happen soon.

>>46186929
Why would they demand something that they already have?

>enter thread
> It's infested with Anons who are spewing incomprehensible mumbojumbo Hodgepodge and using two by four lingo that's uncommon even outside this thread.
Um... Who's responsible for this??? Why must you ruin the one place where a number enjoyer like me feels at peace? Why!??

>>46187339
Not true in the slightest everyone that doesn’t watch hololive wants them to change. Nijien, TT, Vshojo, dramatubers always claim that hololive style is behind the times and then get reinforced by their fans that only watch them agreeing. They lose viewership because their standards is just not being hololive instead of being talented then blame the fans for expecting hololive. Hololives only standard is talent.

>>46188391
Slavery may have been abolished, but its legacy still enslaves the minds of many.

>>46187624
Hololive actually cares about its talents. Too bad Nijisanji can't say the same.

>>46188467
Huh, interesting.
>>46188468
I stuck with cunny posting. I don't pay attention to drama or news much.

>>46188391

>>46188491
>Nijisanji is more popular than hololive in Japan
2019 called they want their cope back

>>46188491
Kzh got mogged that day by a bigger stream anon, stop coping by using comparisons for a game. It's unhealthy to keep thinking that nijisanji is bigger than Hololive.

>getting mogged in finances
Yeah, but Hololive has half the talents of nijis lol

>>46188491
>there's only a small difference in subs and CCV between Kuzuha and Pekora/Marine/Miko.
Nigger there's a one million sub gap between marine and Kuzuha

>>46188391
Epictetus. “Wealth consists not in having great possessions, but in having few wants.”

>>46188491
if that's your argument Aqua MOGS kuzuha in his strongest game which is Apex

>>46188610
They still are. Koshien got monstrous numbers last year that hololive isn't getting anytime soon. It's getting dangerously close to beating Coco's graduation numbers.

>>46188491
Bronze boi? Tin boi???? Rumao Rumao. How the mighty have stagnated. 3rd Army is more to Kuzuha's level if we're being real here.

>>46188391
SUPER

>>46188491
>Nijisanji is more popular than hololive in Japan and there's only a small difference in subs and CCV between Kuzuha and Pekora/Marine/Miko. He can occasionally mog them under the same playing field as well.
>Posts in /#/
The delusion, i can't

>>46188391
The more free you are the more constrained by your idiocy you are

>>46187678
Someone who can't get tally worthy numbers even with twitch magic numbers is worse then any mid tier holo

>>46187507
Love my slaveRyS

>>46188391
Rosa Parks of the 21st century.

>>46188391
Kson: The George Lucas of Vtubers

Dwarf doko?

>>46188762
>Teleports behind you
Nothing personal slave

These western whore grifters who are pretending to be vtubers should be watching Sora and Iroha's collab stream that's going to end soon. It's the quintessential reason why people absolutely adore hololive. Our life is stressful as it is. We don't want to see your gifting whoring ass spreading your cancerous drama and put MORE stress in our lives. We just want to watch anime girls building something in minecraft while being grateful of everyone watching them and working together and being closer friends. We just want to watch our chuubas in peace. But you western whores always tries to put your disgusting political, degenerate, drama ridden, coomer bait trash to our small moment of peace and you call that a fucking slavery? Get the fuck outta here.

>>46188725
sadly for you those tourists dont buy merch or anything besides that stream that happens once per year

>>46188725
ahhh baseball. The only thing nijinnigers have to be relevant but thanks to someone maybe it will cancelled this year

>>46186713
The most surprising here is Iroha

Tally anon doko?

>>46188664
Kuzuha has 1.5m and Marine has 2.3m. That's 800k difference. The point is that it's a lot smaller than the difference between Vox (1.2m) and Gura (4.2m). It's important to note that Kuzuha doesn't have EOP/SEA propping him up as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6Uy7ZHyIT0&t=11

Well this is rather funny timing or truly Rin knows how to play the numbers game

>>46186730
Vedal status?

>>46188874
>thanks to someone maybe it will cancelled this year
more like they are willing to kill any of their chuubas if it means keeping one sponsor

hello i love irys!

>>46188207
It's still funny to me how Gura just found a hole, claimed it and declared it her new home.

>>46188491
>get mogged in finances
Again with this cope... Cover's #1 because of picrel, not because of a company's amassed finances

>>46188920
DOWN WITH CORPO DOWN WITH SLAVERY

>>46188491
Put Riku at the head of current hololive and Yagoo at the head of nijisanji. Stars will learn to sink or swim and covers profits from multiple sponsors, solely for the top 20, might near double. Anycolor might actually lose profit because he wants to bring up shitters. At this point it’s not about the company it’s about the leaders mindset there should be 2 more en debuts coming within the next 6 months for niji but for holo we can’t guarantee whether the next debut will be jp en id or even females at all. This is why they’re still losing if female 3 gen for EN dropped they would have beat niji by a nose for the year.

Stop with the shitpost or else

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGjuCFgDCbQ
Topical, this vtuber just announced her graduation because she got a boyfriend

>>46188874
They’ll publicly execute anyone who threatens that sponsorship

A tally! A tally! My kingdom for a tally!

>>46187961
You know what? I'm glad that Gura likes Minecraft enough to actually play it off stream. Her build is getting positive response and it's generating good clips. This is a win for Gura in my books

>>46188874
I think they'd rather send Gundou naked to the angry mobs than losing Koshien

>>46188915
>It's important to note that Kuzuha doesn't have EOP/SEA propping him up as well.
>conveniently hiding the fact chinks prop up most Niji organs globally
RORU RUMAO

>>46188915
>800k
>a small difference
The absolute state of nijicope

>>46188874
They'd send Gundou to be torn apart, literally, by baseball fans before that happens.

>>46187856
who is she fucking? is it taishi?

>>46188725
this is the same cope used by vox thinking that numbers would increasse every year when last year happened because two of the most popular organs played in the finals. Lize and leos is staying this year, but kuzuha and kagami's time is out so they'll leave koshien. They'll probably force Fuwa, Salome or Toya to replace them.

Did that dwarf get banned or something for shitposting?

>>46188915
Without a healthy FPS-meta Kuzuha has exactly nothing propping him up. Which is why he gets mogged every single day by actual heavy hitters.

>>46188874
>make fun raid shadow
>grad
>make fun baseball
>soon grad

>>46189015
Gura being engaged in anything Hololive related is a win, that’s how low the bar got for her.

>>46188874
They would ACTUALLY kill gundou if it means that sponsor stays.

>>46189163
I wonder if nijisanji will actually go ahead with firing gundou like they did with Zaion

>>46189158
Is that why he got 70k on Hogwarts Legacy and mogged every holo that played it?

>>46189151
>kuzuha and kagami's time is out so they'll leave koshien
I don't know anything about baseball, but why do they have to leave koshien?

>>46187856
she never use this again?

the dwarf is dead...

Which holo girls can be considered loli like, and I don't mean just the model but how they act as well.

>>46189264
it seems like a 2 year rule, a participant can only play for 2 years

>tally anon got caught in the banwave
shouldn't have shitposted baka

Hololive is the gold standard because they don’t do what everyone else is doing. Everybody knows 0 talents collab with males oh wait, maybe the reverse 0 talent’s don’t talk to males oh wait, 0 talents talk about dates oh wait, 0 talents talk about their ass or being horny oh wait, 0 talents do lewd streams or songs while moaning oh wait. Wow it almost seems like Hololive has multiple talents that all do different things and aren’t forcing others to be the same. Maybe that’s the secret being able to enjoy talented girls with different styles that don’t look like they just copied the same personality onto everyone. Then again people on twitter said every holo is the exact same and I should watch their vtuber.

>>46189206
Gura's hatred of Minecraft is something I was hoping she could finally shed, so it's nice to see her finally learn to like the game. Now we just need her to play during JP prime time and interact with Pekora or something

So now that the tally is finally dead, we can stop coping with ccv and move on to other, more relevant metrics right?

>>46189305
Continue this

>>46189247
Shut up anon, you're hurting the narrative

>>46189225
i watch some niji jp mostly just utawaku but not her, but if riku dare to fire her, i will not watch any nijisanji vtuber again

>>46189163
Also, what happened to Gwelu? Did they get him melted in acid by the Mafia?

>>46189362
lel, this
terminally online freaks like to say WE ARE DIFFERENT, but in the end, they arr rook same

>>46189264
They cycle guests around to keep it fresh. Putting Kuzuha in for all koshien is stupid lmao

>>46189015
Just like the BigFish spotting turned into a meme in Rust arc

>>46189371
She never hated Minecraft though?

>>46189428
pekora not their sponsorship

>>46189428
He’s still around but he got close to being fired iirc

>>46189247
Why does he get mogged by holos everyday then? Where are the 70k during his normal stremes? Who do mid tier holos have more gold then him?
The answer is rather simple, bots.

>>46189428
He lost his child when his nousagi wife divorced him

>>46189375
JWU, what did I miss? why is it dead?

>>46189247
Are you going to cling to this for the rest of the year?
>Yeah, tin boy gets mogged literally on a daily basis but for one beautiful moment in time, the fujos tuned in for a HP stream

>>46189514
Are these bots, by any chance, in the room with us now?

>>46189247
>can only cling to one hogwarts stream
Pathetic. What about the rest of the year and how he gets mogged pretty much every day he streams?
>b-but muh hogwarts stream

>>46189563
dwarf was taken out by elves

>>46189571
That's an awful way to phrase it in this very tread

>>46189567
shhh, let the sisters have their victory
it's the only one they had for over 25 days

Waiting for tally. Waiting for Nakiri lewds.

>>46189483
She hates the expectations that Minecraft brings, since she feels like she had to be working on some big project. And she hates working on long term projects

>>46189571
They literally are.

>>46189371
she just avoid kaela, not MC

>>46189701
Just in case you guys want to know what schizo looks like

tally is late i'm going to bed

The lamies are just big sister personalities, right?

>>46189319
Gura and Shion

>>46189247

Some exID member tweeting "adios" meme for no reason. Foreshadowing? Or does anyone know the reason?

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>71,239: Ayame (Hololive)
>36,784: Marine (Hololive)
>28,932: Koyori (Hololive)
>27,844: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>26,958: Miko (Hololive)
>26,639: Korone (Hololive)
>26,220: Gaku (Nijisanji)
>23,024: Pekora (Hololive)
>20,053: Subaru (Hololive)
>18,489: Miko (Hololive)
>17,164: Nene (Hololive)
>16,521: Suisei (Hololive)
>16,188: Laplus (Hololive)
>15,010: Watame (Hololive)
>14,407: Choco (Hololive)
>14,187: Shigure Ui (Indie)
>13,573: Nerumero (Indie)
>12,221: Chihiro (Nijisanji)
>12,041: Met (VSPO)
>11,784: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>11,540: Ema (VSPO)
>11,521: Hayato (Nijisanji)
>11,481: Laplus (Hololive)
>11,357: Iroha (Hololive)
>10,468: Sumire (VSPO)

Gold for Ayame in another day of absolute dominance by holos

>>46189571
Yes

>>46189514
>The answer is rather simple, bots.
you sound like a parody.

>>46188981
This is actually a fun thought experiment. What if Yagoo and Riku switch places tomorrow? Will Riku change the culture or will he just let the other top guys run the show? Will Yagoo change the merch cut percentage concentrate on developing their abandoned tech? How will they approach the Chinese market?

>>46189743
suischizo and marineschizo really are the exact same person then?

>>46189786
remove the indog mudd blood

>>46189743
Jesus fucking christ

>>46189571
>Are these bots, by any chance, in the room with us now?
Yes. They literally are.

Pedos please post cunny
I wanna coom to cunny

>>46189831

>>46189786
>zeta
>one of the lamies
lol

Reminder that Kanata already said that their office motto is basically “We don’t mass produce bitches here.”

Was this a jab at niji? And since HoloEN hasn’t had a gen in almost 2 yrs does this make them more or less bitches? Also does this motto not matter for homos?

>>46189831
LAY OFF THE BOOZE YOU FUCKING DWARF

>>46189786
again and again I ask, why do some people still include Zeta as Lamy

>>46189831
>MARCH 2023 GOLDS
1) Nerumero (Indie) - 32,543 - Genshin gacha
2) Mio (Hololive) - 42,700 - Mahjong tournament
3) Gura (Hololive) - 67,405 - 3D showcase
4) Toya (Nijisanji) - 68,467 - Oekaki no Mori tournament
5) Miko (Hololive) - 138,977 - 3D birthday live
6) Marine (Hololive) - 39,525 - Minecraft w/Kanata
7) Miko (Hololive) - 42,738 - Soulcalibur 6
8) Pekora (Hololive) - 52,296 - Clubhouse 51 totsu
9) Subaru (Hololive) - 33,648 - Minecraft
10) Suisei (Hololive) - 45,471 - Micomet mocopi Switch Sports
11) Lamy (Hololive) - 44,322 - Clubhouse 51 w/Kanata, Chloe & Marine
12) Shion (Hololive) - 96,477 - 3D birthday live
13) Hal (Neo Porte) - 139,050 - VSaikyo 5 teams announcement
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 32,152 - Minecraft
15) Koyori (Hololive) - 106,097 - 3D birthday live
16) Subaru (Hololive) - 34,808 - SMOK One-Block Minecraft
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 34,863 - Slither.io
18) Hololive (Hololive) - 103,296 - Hololive 4th fes day 1 free part
19) Hololive (Hololive) - 95,002 - Hololive 4th fes day 2 free part
20) Pekora (Hololive) - 38,617 - Minecraft
21) Chiroru (Indie) - 97,523 - WBC semi-final watchalong
22) Suisei (Hololive) - 160,044 - 5th anniversary 3D live
23) Pekora (Hololive) - 52,542 - PekoMoona off-collab cooking
24) Aqua (Hololive) - 39,020 - Minecraft
25) Marine (Hololive) - 34,292 - Karaoke + announcement
26) Miko (Hololive) - 49,612 - Soulcalibur 6
27) Pekora (Hololive) - 49,236 - Minecraft
28) Marine (Hololive) - 54,460 - Holomen relationship updates
29) Ayame (Hololive) - 71,239 - New outfit reveal

>PER COMPANY
25x: Hololive
2x: Indie
1x: Neo Porte, Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
6x: Pekora
3x: Marine, Miko
2x: Hololive, Subaru, Suisei
1x: Aqua, Ayame, Chiroru, Gura, Hal, Koyori, Lamy, Mio, Nerumero, Shion, Toya

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
69x: Hololive
14x: Nijisanji
3x: Indie
1x: Neo Porte, VSPO

>PER STREAMER
26x: Pekora
8x: Marine
4x: Miko, Subaru, Toya
3x: Hololive, Mio, Suisei
2x: Koyori, Kuzuha, Lamy, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Okayu, Towa
1x: Aqua, Ayame, Chiroru, Choco, Gaku, Gura, Hal, Himawari, Hinano, Ina, Kiara, Mito, Mori, Nozomi, Polka, Roco, Shion, Watame, Yashiro

>>46189907

>>46189895

>>46189743
legitimate mental illness

>>46189859
And what do you know Suiseischizo didn't show up today

What am I missing about the NijiEN merch shop leak?

How can someone like Vox possibly only make 200k on his birthday merch? Upper tier holos can crack a million. They probably crack that much just on limited merch, and yes I'm including his competitor "Gura". HoloEN's match that, Bae sure fucking does didn't she make like 100k just on limited merch sales a few weeks ago?

>>46189955

Suisei graduation status?

>>46189319
Luna, Kobo as well based on what I've seen from clips
>>46189813
>Gura
acts more like a retarded teenager in some streams and a pissy millennial in others, if we were talking debut Gura I would agree

>>46189571
I mean...

>>46189483
I quote
>I hate playing minecraft ALONE
The fact that she can regularly run into JP members when she's playing offline must be a godsend for her, and keeps her motivated to play during EN hours even when the only person she might run into on the regular is Kaela.

>>46189514
>Without a healthy FPS-meta Kuzuha has exactly nothing propping him up
It's something factually false, He gets better numbers than APEX, Valorant or whatever when he tries a different game. This stream for example is absolutely on par with what Peko or Marine would get playing the same thing (he had gotten a much higher number before playing BoTW before, I think it was 45k or something. This is several months afterwards).

>>46189907
Yeah, they only mass produce homos.

>>46189907
Reminder that Kanata was facing the floor in a corner in that collab lmao

>>46189949
Thank you anon I had lost my ss of this and didn’t know what Achan stream it was

>>46189977
no, he did.

>>46190018

>>46189571
There are none

>>46190010
Acrylic plates aren’t exactly enticing

>>46188491
Why did his viewer drop from 70k to 14k? His viewer dropped 80%. Did nijisis forgot to turn on the bots?

>>46188175
This was brought up long before newfags new to YouTube only learned about it after her short

>>46189319
>how they act
Miko, Luna, Fauna, Mumei, IRyS

>>46189831
>>46189941
Most of these are slave numbers. I say we ban numbers produced by slavery, rewarding them is immoral as it directly supports slavery.

>>46189936
Bait.

>>46189907
>And since HoloEN hasn’t had a gen in almost 2 yrs does this make them more or less bitches?
Less. Gotta whip the bitch out of the new girls.
>Also does this motto not matter for homos?
Obviously not.

>>46190085

>>46189977
I wonder why he never goes to the Suisei general. Not that I complain, but he clearly goes to /ahoy/ while he doesn't go to the Suisei general.

>>46188491
>>46189831
>27,844: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
Where are the other 40k+ viewers? I thought that was his average, since he's the undisputable king of vtubers, amirite?

>>46190038
fucking Ennafag…

>>46190050
fuck off with your 10k z peak, he peak in 28k

>>46189907
Maybe this >>46189362

>>46190151

>>46188391
I uses to rule the world, EOPs would flood in when I gave the word

>>46190050
let me help you with that

>>46187858
>But that doesn't mean hololive style of vtubing is the only way to go
I agree and you seem to agree as well but what kson says, essentially, is
>there was a shift in the punishment-reward dynamics in the "western weeb" community
>they say "obedient" is the only way to go and doing otherwise is being "whores"
and then she concluded the way I mentioned, saying
>if that continues, in five years vtubers will disappear
supposedly implying that INDEPENDENT and NOT OBEDIENT vtubers will disappear and only "corporate slaves" will remain.

Coming at the heels of the termination of Zaion and suspension of Gwelu and Gundou, I don't think she's making a distinction between what could be construed as Hololive "house slaves" and Njisanji "buck broken slaves", she's making a distinction between corporate vtubers and "independent" vtubers

>>46188507
>Not true in the slightest everyone that doesn’t watch hololive wants them to change.
I don't know exactly which "them" you mention but all of those ACTIVELY wants Hololive to change or, at least, to be "punished" with a smaller audience, and wants the opposite of Hololive to thrive an to be rewarded with a big audience.
That's the core of kson message, she wants "the real weebs" to support the opposite of obedience, and to push the current "western weebs" out of the hobby along with whoever they support

>>46190050
>>46190172

>>46188969
Unless I’m doing the math wrong isn’t Anycolor still bigger overall they just win on average.

>>46189831
>71,239: Ayame (Hololive)
Ayame-donoこれはベースードですよ~

>>46190212

>>46189483
She was honestly a little negative sounding about it even on her first minecraft stream with the new server. I'm glad she seems to be enjoying it now though.

>>46186802
So... a watchalong of Team4Stars' DBZ abridged?

>>46187035
holopatriotism is a powerful force

>>46190265

Ayame is peak womanhood. How can cunny and hags even compete.

>>46190155
he'd get fucking obliterated if he tried pushing anything beyond just a single post baiting for a reaction. I know because I've seen it.

These lewds are so fucking bad
I expected more from ayamefags

>>46190238
But this is just dumb and cope, indies will still exist, some indies will incline, most will recline, there will be new indies catering to new cultural trends in 5 years, there will be more advanced AI chubas, and Holo/Niji(If it doesn't get rugpulled) will probably have bigger and more advanced eco systems growing the fad even larger.

>>46189786
Red Lamy gonna join in 2 days.

>>46190311

>>46189831
Ojou!

>>46190272
Yes Cover is 200 per 68 vtubers or 13,600 in total
any color is 87 per 161 vtubers or 14,007 in total

>>46189786
She’s not the same shade, different debut thumbnail, shitter in SC talks with and about males, a year in no growth. What about her makes people think she could be a lamy

>>46190327
This. where are the feet, armpits, sweat, smell?

>>46190375
One Lamy to rule them all...

>>46189907
>Be Omega
>Mass produce homos
>Fail spectacularly
>Get demoted

>>46188491
>and there's only a small difference in subs and CCV between Kuzuha and Pekora/Marine/Miko
kek, here is a visualisation of the difference in subs between Holos and the rest of the industry
>as tracked by vrabi

There is a gap so huge you have FUCKING RISU outranking Fuwa, Ange, Lize, Toko, Ars and even the former fastest growing and second highest subbed Niji of all
>Honhima
Yes, fucking Risu

>>46190050
why nijiniggers are like this?

>>46190376

>>46189831
>16,521: Suisei (Hololive)
Uhh, hoshiyomis? Explain

>>46187510
and ghost whore becoming a shitter now

>>46189831
>MIKO SLIPPED
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>46190238
Even as indie you still need to build a standard and expectation though like Shylily.
And even Shylily commented about how Hololive builds a supportive safe house for their vtubers.

>>46190414
for >>46190250

>>46190447

>>46190172
>>46190233
Didn't bother looking at it. But still, he got 45k+ the first time before Zs were a thing, pretty sure. This Pokemon number doesn't have a Z.

anyone know old and some recent clips about hololive member explain superchat share from collab stream?

>>46190443
Delusions of grandeur and past glories is all they have, please understand.

>>46190518

>>46190546

>>46188491
>>46188725
> Nijicope #10 Nijisanji is more popular than Holo in Japan (>>>/jp/27419919 <span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/29231034 >>>/jp/29352658 >>>/jp/34766571 >>1843302 >>3773035 >>7615028)</span>

Why is it that NijiEN newfags throw around the same old copes despite knowing shit about their JP heritage?
Is it in their blood or smth?

>>46189907
management was telling her that they probably would hire someone like Coco but she knew that there will be no other like Coco because she misses that bitch

>>46190480
>you still need to build a standard and expectation though like Shylily
Only after she got her new model, before noticing that she was also trying to see what worked based on her old fleshcam experiences.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7vvJOI9pII

>>46190545
From what I can understand there is no such clip, and there is no such "sharing".
For the most part superchatting during collabs is frowned upon, rarely done and even when it is, I assume the owner of the channel keeps it and whatever retribution is paid in kind, meaning an equivalent collab in the other person's channel

>>46190444
I will never understand why nijinigger come to the numbers thread to lie about stuff that's easily disproven through numbers

>>46190579

>>46190596

now he wants to compare solo pokemon to 4 man collab pokemon, this guy is an idiot

>>46190414
So anycolor is just like China and Cover is like the States?

>>46190662

>>46187895
good one

>>46190545
>>46190633
i remember suisei said the money from startend collab used for yakiniku party but i dont remember any clip

>>46190534
>a 53k 4 people collab
ogey

>>46190629
that's a pretty big clip channel just for one chuuba

>>46190727

>>46188107
I wonder if this rant was provoked by vstats removing her from their tally...