/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>46179884
Yes, literally nothing changed from her then and her now besides the corpo she's under.
I'm not even a gambling man, but I could safely bet 50k usd or more, that if she made the exact same rant while she were under Hololive, she would be receiving praise for it and everyone would be complimenting her on how "brave" she was for saying it.

>>46179957
So why did she throw Kanata under the bus?

>>46179884
And today she is a shitter that has to essentially vaguepost and be a retard for attention. How the mighty have fallen.

>>46179884
I have never been surprised that Coco is EN's favorite vtuber, what has always been disingenuous to me is when they pretend Kson is any different. Unless what they exclusively liked about Coco was her subversion of a company they hate but in that case they shouldn't still be Hololive fans unless their oshi is someone like Mori or Ollie or Laplus or something.

>>46179957
>literally nothing changed
Easy example - she used to get 3k-5k viewers easy on her karaoke streams
Today she has 1k viewers.

Hololive fans are not toxic and won't insult anyone in this thread. They just like CGDCT and don't harass others.

>Bitches literally start shit with Hololive
>Fans retaliate
>''OMG TOXIC!!!''
Every time.

>>46180145
Coco's main appeal was hyping up her colleagues.
She would make jokes about them, make jokes with them, and make them do shitty jokes all the while highlighting hololive as a whole.
Then she just left all of that and fucked off.
although to be fair cover made her stop doing that first

>>46179957
>literally nothing changed
Except that some HoloIDs have a higher viewership than her these days.

>>46180312
There's a huge difference between liking Coco as part of a whole unit, you can dismiss a lot of questionable talents in Hololive that way and that's probably the biggest reason for Hololive's success as a "family". But if she was one of your favorites within Hololive as an individual, then you have no excuse to still like Hololive or not like Kson. She was never into what Hololive is.

>if she still was with the company holofags would defend it
Lmao
Improve yourself. Female friends doko? Etc.

>>46180307
>kson mentions yakkai fans are attacking vtubers and that's bad because her vtuber fans are confiding their burnout to her
>"you insulted hololive!"
>"Bitch!"
Most reasonable fanbase.

>>46180750
>her vtuber fans
her vtuber friends*

>>46180609
>She was never into what Hololive is
Kek!

>>46180609
>But if she was one of your favorites within Hololive as an individual, then you have no excuse to still like Hololive or not like Kson.
Tatsunokos really have to understand that Coco as an individual wasn't that popular, the difference between normal coco streams and collab streams is literally a 10x difference

>>46180805
Probably a redditor who thinks Coco applied to be a janitor or whatever stupid shit they came up with

>>46180609
>Blood sweat and tears and pouring her heart out for holo
>Literally ends up having a stroke working for a vtuber corpo
>decides to quit but makes sure she stays till her birthday and makes as much money for cover before she leaves so they can mint money
>literally spends her own money on lawyers going after fags who badmouth hololive
>"that place will always be precious to me and I will always love it dearly"

>She was never into what Hololive is.

>>46180967
her solo content was popular before cover and b2 sicced the bugs on her forcing her to have members only chat for 3 months straight

>>46180805
>>46181036
So your conspiracy is that she became a different person and is a traitor but she used to be good? You people are retarded.

>>46181036
>literally spends her own money on lawyers going after fags who badmouth hololive
Proof?

>>46181036
Zhangs are taking advantage. I will forever be grateful for what Coco did in and out of Hololive.

>>46179884
Wtf, there the quartering?

>>46180750
Oh yeah, she didn't start shit with Holo, she was just extremely retarded and made things worse for everybody.
>B-but she's defending her friends!!!
Oh yeah, you think the faggots who harrass kanata or Rushia are gonna listen to a fucking Vtuber? even if she was still Cooc people would not listen, now I hope cover doesn't put 2 and 2 together and terminate kanata.
Do i think she's malicious? only on my fanfic, she's just a dumb amerimutt.

>>46181125
The EN community has brought more damage to vtubing that the CN community realistically ever could have. The same thing is true of all Japanese media. Asian countries that hate Japan have adopted their media far earlier and more completely than the English world ever will and yet the damage increased expontentially when the English world got involved.

>>46181102
Some matome site twisted a comment she made into sounding like she was bad mouthing Hololive shortly after she graduated and she got pissed and went after them

>>46181250
Fuck does that have to do with anything? You're fucking retarded if you think Coco was the primordial pool of EN vtubing and if she didn't exist, it would have never happened. I mean seriously, extremely fucking stupid hypothesis.

>>46181321
Oh, what was the comment?

>>46179884
Coco stood out among members of Hololive.
Nothing unusual among VShojo.

Now has a different audience. And without Holo collabs to show contrast, she just doesn't stand out anymore. But she's doing fine considering she doesn't have the Holo brand buff and still has the Chinese-anti debuff. .ie can't join Niji servers.

>>46181402
It was like two years ago so my memory is a little foggy. She did a marshmallow stream and someone asked something about how to get started vtubing and should they apply to corpos etc. Kson said her suggestion is to just start making content and not worry about applications to corpos until much later on. The matome site then ran an article that was along the lines of "Alleged reincarnation of Hololive vtuber speaks out against vtubers applying to her former corpo" or some shit like that and she got really mad.

>>46181698
No fucking way, journalism is the same scummy thing regardless of culture huh?

>>46181664
it's very strange that this "new vshojo audience" that she supposedly replaced her fanbase with is full of japanese people with 2 year membership badges

>>46181811
NTA, but yeah some tatsus stayed, most left, nobody loses 100% of their audience, Not even EDP

>>46181393
Because if you are promoting Coco for being against CN, then you are promoting her for being for EN. Because she didn't eliminate CN from vtubing or bring EN to vtubing but she had a significant role in both for Hololive so you can't praise one without endorsing the other. You can't praise someone for making a choice between Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia without implicitly endorsing their action in regards to the other.

>>46181811
I stand corrected. Meant her new members are of Twitch audience. I know many remained. She would have gathered much more if remained in Hololive. She instantly lost 2k members joining VShojo.

>>46181921
You're not even following the fucking reply thread. Coco always had Hololive's best interest in mind while in it and even after she left. I would wager she even does to this day. That's what I'm replying to. You're just schizoing out over something that I'm not even going to read past the first sentence.

>>46181907
>most left
lmfao no
mostly holoboxers and tourists left
look at any coco gaming stream in 2021 like yakuza 3, fallout 4 or terraria, she has sub 3k ccv in a bunch of them
now she gets like 2k on almost anything she does
>>46181991
that was about subscribers, not members, retard

>>46181991
She lost subs not members, a few thousand out of a million

>>46179957
And that's the thing, the SAVIOR OF VTUBING FREE FROM THE SLAVE COMPANY ICON OF THE TALENT FREEDOM is the exact or even worst version of herself, but working 100 times less. That just makes me see that her peak was ages ago, good for her if she's happy, but it would be better if she just shut her mouth a bit and continues being a fleshtuber like she is now

>>46182158
>that was about subscribers, not members, retard
Can't be a member if actively unsubscribe, retard. It's not counting the many that didn't bother to hit that button...and just stop watching.

>>46182014
So you admit you are a Kson fan and agree with her comments? Then we have no problem here.

>>46181921
rent free

>>46182340
I admit I cannot win against the voices in your head.

>>46180312
>Coco's main appeal was hyping up her colleagues.
Bullshit, it was making them break character which is why i always hated her. Boring bitch that made content by putting others on odd standings.

pretty sure coco's main appeal was the same lame hololive joke "dude she's an idol but doesn't act like it" but more westernized. Now that actual western vtubers exist people didn't need her anymore

>>46179884

Asacoco was always th canceraids killing vtubing and exposed guntsons life as a perpetual leddit moment. The jokes were shit. The topics were shit. The hosts was shit. The guests were dying from cringe while there. Absolute bottom of the barrel and beyond. If you unironically watched this you are a literal vermin fly consuming feces for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

>>46179884
why can't she replicate it? What is stopping her from becoming the fastest growing vtuber again? Half million people watched her graduation stream but she couldn't retain even 1% of them as an audience fucking Aloe is doing better than her do you wonder why?

>>46182913
Toxic fan tries to say something nice about his hobby challenge [impossible]

>>46183029
phaseniggers dont like vtubing
they like le based bunny

>>46182726
I think of something as simple and "classic" as the Freedom Lady bit for why Coco is completely uninteresting. Westerners loved Miko because she said inappropriate things unknowingly, so now a Westerner gets to do a stream with Miko where the joke is the language barrier. And then Coco's entire bit is forcing all this offensive shit into Miko's persona, pretending that's what she thinks Miko is saying when it doesn't even sound remotely similar and Miko ignorantly just laughs along and enjoys it while some Westerner is mocking her. Does Miko's charm still make the whole thing funny as usual? Yes. But Coco is the completely malicious and unnecessary factor there, she's not actually adding anything and if she had things her way, there would be nothing funny or charming at all. She's like the worst EN's in any Holo's chat but actually harassing the talents in real-life.

>>46181036
>>46181698
>>46181762
Kson also helped go after one of those awful YouTube channels that was 90% dedicated to connecting Holomem with their roommates. Not the the Holomem who have active roommate personas, mind you, but the ones who retired them and scrubbed themselves from the internet, and have no active roommate anything.

>>46179957
Kronii and Ame got shit on for way less. No one likes vshojo in /vt/, stop being salty about it Nyanners.

>>46179957
Except for the part where she streams as a flesh tuber half the time and gets watched less than the majority of HoloID on average now

>>46180164
>>46180440
>>46184301
>thread discussing stream content
>3 nearly identical noomber posters
Are these bot posts?

>>46183493
It was that retard poka
Fucker cried and begged her to spare him and claimed he was a minor.
He deleted his channel after getting yelled at by her.

>>46181126
Legendary ojisan who saved multiple holos from demonitization in early 2020

>>46183411
Yes yes remember when Coco forced miko to say nigga and when Coco made kizuna Ai say fuck you
Totally coco's fault for corrupting the pure and innocent Japanese maidens

>>46179996
She did not, and said she got permission from her corpo friend to talk about the stuff she said yesterday in her stead as she can’t say it herself on stream due to legalities/contracts

>>46181062
Only asacoco was popular for her first 6 months.
Everything else was way below average
She refused to do normal collabs for switch games and minecraft saying she wanted to do different stuff and no one gave a shit.

>>46185710
Yeah she got the OK from her vshoujo friends and Mike to shit on Kanata for being a unicorn

>>46184953
>Are these bot posts?
Worse, SEAmonkeys

>>46184953
People leaving in droves is relevant to her stream content because people don't want to watch a whore with a god complex.

>>46179957
If she was in Hololive and made the same speech I’d want her to graduate you disingenuous faggot.

>>46185796
She literally defended unicorns and said she is one herself lmao

>>46181762
Journalists today are lazy faggots scraping the bottom of every barrel just to twist any narrative they can to drive people to click on their shit websites. I pray everyday for their money to run out, their livelihoods to dwindle, and for their inevitable meltdown when they get laid off.

>>46180170
Maybe the next thread will be better

Kek

>>46185483
That's the exact opposite of what I said, but thanks for showing I was right about Coco's retarded fans.

>>46186528
>people don't want to watch a whore with a god complex.
No wonder nobody listens to you then

>>46179957
Fpbp

Thats why i love her

>>46180145
The restrictions that she hated, is what made her entertaining.

>>46179884
The difference is back then we thought it was just her playing up a character and we thought behind the scenes she was this top tier saviorfag. But then it turns out that wasn't a character and she's kind of an annoying busy body who sticks her nose in other people's business.

>>46179957
Speak for yourself. I hated her then and I still hate her now.

>>46179884
Asacoco was a genius concept, still a shame no one has ever been able to replicate it.