/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>45911453
Not like there is much competition, delusional mythturds will raid this thread though.

nice bait, nijibot

>>45911453
Council is the heart and soul of EN

>>45911453
Council already showed it's superiority when Gura left Myth for them.

>>45911453
Do you mean in Unity? Then yea best non JP branch or are you talking talent then they don’t even beat out ID1

ID is better in the idol department than either EN branch. EN2 is fith best gen at best by my count.

>>45911453
if only we can kick whores like Ouro Kronii and Hakos Baelz out of CouncilRyS and replace them with Kaela and Gura it would have been perfect

>>45911539
Anon...
Please. Myth has got people like Gura(who is allergic to streaming) and Mori. But on the other hand Mori does seem to be on the right track

>>45911713
>ID
>Idol
All of them collab with males

>>45911721
>kick whores like Ouro Kronii and Hakos Baelz
nah, those 2 are perfect in council, idk wtf you're talking about.

>>45911721
ok, maybe not Bae, she can dance. but Kronii absolutely needs to fuck off

>>45911453
>Councilrys is hands down the best Hololive generation after NePoLaBo
But the best gen is sankisei

>>45911650
>>45911713
>Then yea best non JP branch or are you talking talent then they don’t even beat out ID1
I was talking about chemistry but how is ID more talented than Council?
Bae is a better dancer than anyone in ID.
Mumei is not as good as Risu agreed but she is pretty close to Moona. Throw IRyS in and she beats pretty all of ID in singing besides Risu if we are talking about Karoke and stuff. Her songs produced by cover are dog shit though.
Fauna, Mumei and IRyS are more entertaining that all the members of Hololive ID and the only ones that come close in my opinion are Kobo and Risu.
There is a reason ID 3 have En members especially from council as their oshis

>>45911453
Excuse me nigga?

>>45912059
>nothing about Kronii
all the more reason for her to fuck off

>>45912104
I am a sapling and I agree that she contributes to collabs more than Fauna and Mumei. She is the best person in council to have has your collab partner. It's between her and IRyS if I am honest but I will give the edge to Kronii as IRyS is like a jack of all trades in councilRyS

>>45911730
So you’re a thread reader. Kronii streamed less than Gura last year and at least she appeared in multiple lives showing she was at least absent for Holo activities.

>>45912059
ID as a whole have better singing and dancing, and they all hang out irl more than EN ever could.

>>45911650
>Council has more unity than any ID gen
Most retarded thing I ever read, the way Kronii acts around her genmates vs stars is like night and day. Literally sounds like she doesn't want to be there every time she calls in to their birthdays versus when she calls homos.

>>45912092
Did I stutter Nigger?

>>45912216
>Sighs
Look at the stream time anon. Irys had lesser number of streams than Mumei and Fauna(not sure about Kronii) but had more stream hours than all of Em besides Kiara.
>>45912219
Well I am talking about councilrys and none of them come close to even IRyS, let alone Bae.
For singing I can agree with you because you have Risu but Mumei and IRyS are personally better than rest of ID.
>and they all hang out irl more than EN ever could.
No shit Sherlock. They live in the same country

>>45911721
Bae might not be my oshi but she's my idol, fuck of with your horseshit faggot

>>45912216
Hours streamed matters more than number of streams mythchama

>>45912219
So here's the thing
ID as a whole when you combine them has more people who can sing and dance but EN has Bae and IRyS who are better at the dancing and singing part respectively than anyone in ID, Risu is pretty damn good, I'd put her as an equal to IRyS only because she barely sings

>>45911839
learn what idol means first

>>45912059
Bae dancing is too good over powers her singing almost completely i can barely remember how she sounded but i do remember the dance she should work on doing one routine instead of multiple. Moona is a more complete package.
I think you meant to phrase Mumei is worse than Moona and Risu but could reach Moona.
I agree with those 3 being more entertaining but I don’t find kobo that entertaining she’s literally childlike bae/kiara but people let it slide because “english not so good.” Same reason some JPs say this EN member is more entertaining than this JP member they dont speak the language so it seems funnier.
Council has 2 members with Gura as their oshi and one with someone from Stars. Kobo said her oshi is from stars as well. Zeta oshi might be mysta for all we know she sometimes lies.
We are in agreement about chemistry though.

>>45912650
>better at the dancing and singing part respectively than anyone in ID
Yeah, no.

>>45912795
*Yeah

>>45912480
You said Gura is allergic to streaming so I brought up Kronii and who’s more allergic? If you want to bring up others i choose Kiara #1 among EN

>anything better than sankisei
opinion ignored

>>45912793
>Bae dancing is too good over powers her singing almost completely i can barely remember how she sounded but i do remember the dance she should work on doing one routine instead of multiple.
You say as if that's a bad thing. She is way better than your average ID/En member. That's for sure
Also her unarchived Karoke before Valentine's day unleashed what she is capable of when it comes to singing.
>Moona is a more complete package.
Disagree, that would be IRyS.
Moona's choices for songs are not that difficult to sing.
>think you meant to phrase Mumei is worse than Moona and Risu but could reach Moona.
No, I said she is pretty close to Moona because their singing is very comparable to one another with a very similar vocal range.
Mumei sounds better than Moona when she gets serious but lacks the technique. Not saying that Moona's technique is on top either, but it's certainly better than Mumei's. Rest everything is subjective about the two of them

>>45911730
Ah yes. Because only Council and Myth exist in Hololive...

>>45913023
And that's true. But hours streamed matter more than number of streams. Also, i like how you casually ignore the first quarter of this year. Also I don't even have anything against Gura because she is my oshi's oshi and way better than anyone in Myth. But she lost her passion to streaming because no one in her gen wanted to anything special

>>45911981
>>45913119
Not anymore. Even Gen 0 is more powerful than them now

>>45911453
For me? It's Bae

>>45911453
>comparing anything involving my wife IRyS to the japanese drama gen aka. gokishit
Sad!

>>45913382
What are you talking about ?
They are still the most successful and it's still the gen that interact the most with gen5 and every time a member of sankisei does a concert you can be sure there will be a song together

>>45914061
Anon, Gen 5 do atleast 1 full generation Collab after every 2 months. They all even waited to showcase their Idol outfits together. And everything you say still stands about gen 5. Also after losing Rushia, gen 3 has been pretty much turned into a individual talent generation where
>Pekora is the gem of the generation
>Marine can't stream that often because of her vocals
And that's understandable but that does put the whole generation as a unit behind gen 0 in my eyes because they are the two people carrying this generation
>Flare and Noel now are well not as close as they used to be and have gotten the AmeSame/LunaMatsuri treatment of JP. Noel prefers being around Subaru more and Flare prefers around being Shiraken. Hell, even IRyS seems to get along better Flare now

>>45913316
I could be wrong but I meant that as well i think Gura beat her by 3 hours. And you’re right about no Unity. Their most consistent collab was cancelled and Mori blamed it on everyone else even though they needed about 1 stream to complete it. Hell both attempts to complete it were canceled by her. Before the recent Kiara collab all myth collabs had been company mandated. Ina doesn’t make plans and Despite what people believe neither does Ame. Gura is a different arguably worse mess entirely but she is always down to collab even last minute. (I personally prefer her solo or council collabs tho but i did like the Kiara one)

>>45911453
If they so good, how come number so low? Myth bigger number. Therefore Myth better.

>>45911713
Nobody cares about ID though.

>>45914771
Unsharked myth gets mogged by Council though

>>45911453
running for the dumbest take of the year?

>>45914605
Unity goes Sankisei NePoLaBo Gamers
Strength goes Sankisei Gen 2 Gen 0
Popularity goes Marine Pekora/Suisei

>>45914714
Gura was behind Ina and Kronii for the number of hours streamed, but a lot of shitty things happened in 2022. Even in 2023, you could watch the valentine's collab and see how disinterested Ame, Ina and Gura were. I know Mori was trying her best but man, she really threw some of them under the bus by saying how no one was interested and she was the only one trying.

>>45915071
Sankisei is nowhere near Gamers or NePoLaBo in terms of unity. With rest of them I could agree but no way are they that united. When was the last time they had a full generation Collab?

I like that they stream, kiara and calli are carrying myth but there's so much they can do if ina and gura keep getting sick.

>>45915366
I like how Ina and Gura are suddenly completely healthy when it's a collaboration with Kronii or Irys and council respectively

>>45912092
Kobo ruins it
Bad model
Bad voice
Bad streams

>>45915739
I'll be honest I never understood why people like Kobo, she looks like a child, sounds like a child, and acts like one too.
She's honestly really annoying

>>45911453
>still no 1m

>>45911453
The embarrassement of Hololive. Probably only Gen 1 has a worst performance but they at least have the excuse of no buff.

>>45915823
>she looks like a child, sounds like a child, and acts like one too.
>She's honestly really annoying
perfect for SEA audience

>>45911453
JP3 > JP2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the rest

>>45915535
I mantain that it's mental health, Ina screwed herself over by doing art on top of her hololive obligations and then moving away from her mother, while Gura chugs energy drinks like it's water, has insomia, and probably feels pressured for being the biggest vtuber, it's a recipe for stress and panic attacks.

>>45911453
CouncilRyS is the best hololive EN generation. They're certainly not as good as a few JP gens, but still pretty good and the only EN vtubers worth watching. Sure, it has a bad egg (kronii) but besides her, everyone else is great. Way better than Myth in every way except dead subscriber count.

>>45914605
Noel and Flare are still good friends though

>>45914782
Everyone really care about council that none of them reach 1m subs after 2 years

>>45922735
Agreed.
I cope that Kronii was influenced by myth and hope she improves herself.

>>45912092
Kobo is trash and Kaela just streams for a long time. There is very little entertainment value in her 10 hours of minecraft.

>>45925794
seething seafag.kaela sometimes streams for 1k people and kobo hovers around 5k. they fell off a cliff in relevancy.

>>45913446
Same, love a cute girl that does cute things.

>>45928534
Crymore, Council the reason EN 3 not happening yet and focus more on tempiss,they can't recreate Myth success.

>>45911453
This.