/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

I do get the impression that Calli is a SJW irl.

>>4586743
Ok And

>>4586474
Phasmo streams literally turns her into a little child. She even begged Ollie to come get her on their phasmo collab

https://litter.catbox.moe/l2sgen.png

dojinbeat new page cock

>>4586775
She acts tough but she's really scared lmao

I FUCKING LOVE KAWAIIOPE MORIRIN AND I WANT TO MARRY THIS DORK, START A FAMILY WITH THIS DORK, AND RAISE A SON WITH THIS DORK, A SON WHO’LL INHERIT OUR RESPECTIVE BEST TRAITS AND ATTRIBUTES BUT IS ALSO JUST AS MUCH OF A DUMB CHUUNI AS HIS BEAUTIFUL DORK OF A MOTHER

>>4586743
You would not be wrong, but she's done a good job keeping her roommate and her separate

Mori only cares about making music and not playing silly game streams
stick to karaoke and talk streams then you stupid bitch

>>4586863
do you ever get tired of posting that

The collab spaghetti this morning was pretty dumb and most of all unfortunately timed, but they're having fun and being cute together so I'm content. I'd be dooming if these two didn't have such good rapport

>>4586743
how about you get the impression of my cock in your asshole?

>>4586708
Damn, always barely beating me with a similar OP.

>>4586925
Never :}

>>4586743
You will never be a woman

Whatever these two do together makes for good watching. Save Cuphead for an offcollab.
As for Mori's tech deficiencies, she just needs to learn to test stuff beforehand (even with the EN curse). I won't expect it, so I won't get upset, but if she does learn one day then it will be a very welcome surprise.

>>4586826
make the red guy a skeleton

>>4586826
Damn, dojinbeat can draw pretty nice cocks. What would it take for you to draw mori with one of those?

UOOOOOHHHHHHHH GURA LOOKS REALLY CUTE

>>4586826
Cute.

>>4586863
>you look so cute
TH

Mori is a natural flirt

>>4586863
Based! Never stop posting it!

>>4587007
>can draw pretty nice cocks
>>4586826
so did you use your own as the model

Has there been any update on the ttrpg character intros yet?

>>4586967
anon... if I were a tranny why would I have a problem with her being a sjw?

>I played a game where we were all children before
REAPER GOONIES

I'm sorry, but the last 20 minutes of the collab being somewhat good won't save it from all the shit we went through earlier.

This duo is so wholesome

>>4586743
remember when she was playing Everhood and there was a character who was "they/them"?

>>4587194
Guac
Brrrraaaapp

>>4587146
Reaper stand By Me where they went looking for an alive person

>>4587069
nope. I'm not autistic enough to even self insert myself in it. Cocks with foreskin and has a shape that's not just a basic cylinder is more natural and you can do a lot of stuff with the added foreskin. Licking underneath it, stretching it and cleaning the insides, etc etc.

>>4587194
Tomorrow is a better day. I hope.
t. optimismbeat

>>4587251
huh? I played through everhood last week and don't remember anyone like that

>>4586775
Reaper ain't shit without her Scythe

cheeky girls wanting to do the bloody mary challenge!

>The game will get mad at you
>Really? Wanna try it?
>Yeeah
These two are too much. I missed the first hour or so (so I see not much) but just hearing them interact is always nice.

>>4587292
I bet mori would look good with one.

THE BADDEST BITCHES
BAD AT PREPARING STREAMS THAT IS HAHAHA

THEY'RE SO CUTE

>>4587251
>>4587314
Undertale has a bunch of "they"s does that mean everyone who liked undertale is SJW?

>>4587419
>I missed the first hour or so (so I see not much)
kek

>>4587471
no, but I still don't remember a they/them being in everhood

>>4587251
>>4587314
>>4587530
Zigg

Maybe forcing Takamori was necessary so we could enjoy these two together without the worst of the shipping schizos. Calligula is OP

Morioppoipi

>>4587594
I guess I just glossed over that during the playthrough because I sincerely don't remember that. I thought you might be referring to pink

America was a mistake. Why do americans have to take things to the extreme. It's like they can't think for themselves

>Not bad at all, could have been much worse
Haha... yeah...

>I really messed up
Yeah, you did. But you're never gonna learn.

>>4588216
well that's not very encouraging

Good collab after about 40 minutes. I forgive you reaperchama

I'm guessing Mori watched Gura's DBD clips not knowing she was playing against real people

>>4588216
There's giving criticism and then there's being an annoying doomer

>>4588175
>>4588216
Guac
Brrraaaappp

>>4588216
She will never learn because it's not her priority. I love her songs and their quality because that is her priority.
>>4588330
>>4588240
Yeah when you have to look back to January for a consistent good streaming month you've given enough criticism and time to improve.

First step to fixing a problem is admitting it. She'll figure some of this stuff out eventually, and it will be a reason to cheer. Until then we have many more reasons to cheer for our Mori. Don't let the occasional scuff sway you.

Is it just me or do these threads get shittier during streams because regulars here go over to the global thread and vice-versa.

>>4588600
>She'll figure some of this stuff out eventually
THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING FOR MONTHS NOW

My Mori has alot of flaws I want her to improve and do her best i love her

>>4588600
>She'll figure some of this stuff out eventually
How long have we been waiting for her to figure it out, though? Hell, I'd argue she's regressing, if anything.

Time for these to get reposted.

https://streamable.com/ojt7ue
https://streamable.com/7dmd5k
https://streamable.com/t0vvl9
https://streamable.com/m2xs0o

>>4588440
She has her bad moments, but that doesn't stop me from enjoying her streams. Literally stop overthinking it. I'm not mentally retarded enough to let her scuffs occupy most of my thoughts.
Enjoy the good parts, tolerate or skip the bad parts. Send her constructive criticism regardless of whether or not she would accept it if you want to.Just chill dude. Do your reps, touch some grass. I swear you whinefags are acting like a victim in an abusive relationship kek

Mori and Gura were both cute, I particularly like how Mori' collab autism doesn't come out anymore when she streams with Gura. She felt relaxed.

>>4586708
Lmao ngl this makes my side hurt. Good joke anon

>>4588679
Oh gosh both cute. I post here usually but I have been in global more the past few days when I was previously avoiding it.

>>4588696
Part of it is thinking 'it will work this time' and part of it is not doing prep work for streams. Some issues with permission aren't entirely her fault. None of it is an actual major problem, it's just something she needs to sit down and think about. So she can make a plan. After the break she came back with new effects, a chat bot and other stuff. She used the time to set things up that help in the long run.

>>4587007
Result from taking to much cock on daily basis hence why he's good at drawing it

>>4588679
It's unironically all deadbeats. The joke about how deadbeats are her biggest antis isn't a joke at all. At least real antis make it so obvious. I thought deadbeats were supposed to be in name only and not actual deadbeats with nothing better to do than whine and scream into the void. Hate her stream? Good, then you'd have for time to get those gains, actually learn to code or pick up an instrument.

>>4588600
And for some people, that first step ends up being the last.
Don't worry, I won't.

>>4588875
They're always good chemistry. And it's noticeable that once she's interacted with someone, she does better with them the next time. I think the upcoming collab with Coco & Ollie is going to be a lot of fun.

>>4588948
Futa cocks? I love them.

>>4588600
She can't take it all, she needs flaws. She's already really great at a lot things. A fully prepped and technically competent mori would be too powerful. Jchad is prepping her up for that

>>4588953
>It's unironically all deadbeats
I'm not denying that

>>4589160
>all those flaws and merits
I wonder what her shadowverse character sheet would look like

>>4588953
>>4589278
I hope the more absurd ones are just obvious mockery of antis. Though you know what they say about anyone getting their kicks from pretending to be stupid.
Everyone should be able to give fair criticisms. Which some Deadbeats seem capable of doing, but then it gets lost by people thinking that criticism is just being an anti or by people saying that criticism isn't enough and needs to go further. I'd rather see that attitude put towards Mori since I know she can handle it.

>>4586826
>dojinbeat is a dicklet
Oh no...

>>4589278
Actual mental illness. Real antis don't even have to do anything.
When other holos make mistakes their fanbase simply acknowledges it, hope for the best and move on, probably leave criticisms or have actual discussions.
But not deadbeats. They have to post paragraphs after paragraphs on multiple threads and even start their own anti thread. I fucking hate deadbeats. The calliopeople timeline is better

>>4589160
Exactly. She's been streaming long enough now to know how to run things on her own, but certain kinds of collabs result in issues. Which is far from every stream. Anyone who has been watching her since the start or for a few months will know what she's good at and isn't. They accept it and still watch. It's a good experience and making those small improvements, whenever she figures them out, will only further improve it.

So i normally don't really like mori but the stream today was pretty comfy even though i was just there for Gura. Mori's manner of speaking, when she isn't doing the "ya boi" voice is weirdly soothing.
Cool oshi guys, have a good one.

>>4589460
I see more people bandwagonning on actual criticisms than dismissing them though. Post one actual calm and collected criticism of her and suddenly doomposters come out of the woodwork saying how all her collabs have been bad and she hasn't improved at all. They're all actual schizos.

>>4586708
Fuck Mori for collabing with Vshitshow.
>herp derp muh bubble
dumb bitch.

>>4586743
Calli has actually said the n word publicly before.

>>4589664
She's gonna stream 7 times a week now if she reads this

>>4589664
>the censor made me think for a second there's a hi-res version of member badges with better shading, kek

>>4589664
Guac

>>4589671
Based chumbro

>>4589724
it do looked like that lmao

I wonder if shes taking on so much because she feels like she has to get the most out of it while she can. You never know how long all of this will last. Hololive could crater in a year, Youtube could vastly change their system, they could all just fizzle out in 5 years.
I feel like she is taking on so much because shes trying to squeeze every last drop out of all of this. Its the smart thing to do but if you squeeze too much you risk damaging yourself or your brand.
Anyways have this cute pic.

I think using the word guac is a great thing because that one word almost got this thread to hit the bump limit.

>>4589664
You fucked up. She's gonna take that criticism in the worst possible way.

>>4589813
basically that and what he said do makes sense >>4589664

They had fun right?
Then it's whatever.
My oshi is a collassal idiot and so am i.
Anyone got something else to watch after they are done?

>>4589664
Well said.

>>4589813
That's what Red is all about.

>>4589836
I'd rather let her hear constructive criticism than no criticism at all. She's a grown woman she will have to do and control the situation in the best of her abilities

>>4589813
She's a busybody. But I kinda get her. The older you get the more you feel guilty not taking more opportunites or doing something productive with your time. She's trying to make every one of her days count. It's kinda relatable, I always feel extra guilty if I skip any of my reps or wasted my entire day doing nothing.

>>4589925
>She's a grown woman
She is, but only anagraphically.

>>4589723
Soft a.

>>4589874
I just found out that rene is an absolute semen demon. You could always start watching her vods

>>4589664
I went back and liked a few comments like this before she went and privated the stream AAAAAAA

>privated
Welp.

And the collab is private now. Who said the gamer word?

>>4589874
>Then it's whatever.
No, its not. These are a number of things Mori needs to improve on, and its perfectly fair to call her out on them.

By no means does she need to be 'perfect', but she's failing at even the most basic things like having a game installed on time and testing connections.

>>4587651
>>4589633

why are you niggers bullying her?
t. /a/fag

>>4589988
She seems cute, but Japanese filters me

>>4589874
She apologized for the stream though. Mori’s biggest weakness for me seems her inability to improvise when her plans falls through.
Although I personally still enjoyed the stream since morisame can carry a stream almost on it’s own.

>>4589664
I'm gonna fucking kill you.

>>4589783
idk man, its just when she was talking to gura about her character the "oh yeah that sounds great" "I really like that idea", every sentence just sounded so genuine. I know its because she is, she's the GM, of course she's interested. But not everyone has such a strong "interested" voice. As someone who has a tendency to talk on and on, that sort of voice is stupid relaxing.

She must do fantastic GFE.

>>4589671
You too, friend.

>>4589813
It's her only job now. So ask yourself how someone who has always been a workaholic will approach it.
She wants to bust her ass to prove she's worthy of her position.

>>4589683
That too. A genuine criticism from a fan or bystander gets pounced on like it's pulling punches and someone needs to tell the "truth". Which is usually she's shit and always will be. There's some legitimately obsessed people posting, always finding fault with whatever is done. Those are the kinds of posts not even worth trying to respond to but then they think since nobody openly disagrees then they must be correct.

The criticism would ring less hollow if it wasn't from schizo concernfags blowing shit out of proportion everytime there's a hiccup. None of you know everything that goes on behind the scenes. Go touch some fucking grass and work on your reps.

>>4590051
>>4589633
I'm sure Mori WISHES she was eight feet tall.

>>4590010
Even Mori agrees that it was shit

I slept in and the stream is private now. What did I miss? how was cup head?

>>4590003
Damn I was gonna give them some likes too, guess I was too slow.

Updated: Stream has been privated, feedback heard loud and clear. Something that level of quality doesn't need to exist, it was a mistake. Clearly I needed more time off. All I can do is apologize and say I'll work harder, thank you

https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1400858273536872449?s=19

>>4590080
>Mori’s biggest weakness for me seems her inability to improvise when her plans falls through.
Her biggest weaknesses are her stubborn nature and inability to shake bad habits. Most of the issues we saw today could have been easily avoided if she listened to what people were saying.

>>4590095
>>4590171

>>4590208
Mori...

Morippi...
>https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1400858273536872449
>Updated: Stream has been privated, feedback heard loud and clear. Something that level of quality doesn't need to exist, it was a mistake. Clearly I needed more time off. All I can do is apologize and say I'll work harder, thank you.
Please do not beat yourself up.

>>4590191
>>4590208
It was so scuffed that even Mori feels ashamed of it

>>4590041
But that wasn't the game she planned to play though? You guys are acting as if she does this every other week. She's far from perfect and needs to improve but stop acting like she's totally incompetent
Her mistakes are more apparent than the other holos because she makes the most basic mistakes, not because of how frequent she does them. Are you going to say how shitty all her collabs have been so far? I swear the all mori's collabs are bad rrat must've also been started by one of you guys.

>>4590254
>Please do not beat yourself up.
No, she should beat herself up a bit. A lot of it is on her, simple as.

She can take it, and she'll be all the better for it. But she has to learn from this and actually APPLY what she learns. Otherwise we'll be back at square one.

>>4590208
>>4590254
WORK SMARTER, NOT HARDER. THIS IS NOT A HARD CONCEPT.

Hope you fuckers are ready for another depression arc

>>4590339
Shut up L*am

>>4590126
>She must do fantastic GFE
Once in a blue moon, and yeah it's pretty great

>>4590335
change to cuphead was announced like 5 hours prior

Was the original plan (and its backup) fucked? Yes.
Was something salvaged from the collab? Yes. Mori and Gura could sit in front of a black screen and chat and it would be fun.
Maybe this is actually the right time for a wakeup call so she knows to prep this stuff before a stream. I hope she's not in some shitty mood but I also hope people blindly praising her don't preempt a lesson learned.

MORI LOVE!

>>4590126
>She must do fantastic GFE
Well, she used to.

Seriously I'm beginning to think she's borderline retarded. She thinks that she can solve everything by overworking herself. instead it always makes things worse because her exhaustion is the cause of many of her problems. Instead she should just put in 10 seconds to think things through and learn the basics of video games, streaming and computers.

>>4590350
If you coddle her then she won’t learn anything

>>4590335
>But that wasn't the game she planned to play though?
She would have had the same exact issues with River City Girls, because that game also depends on Steam Remote Play to have any sort of online play.

The moment she tweeted they would be playing Cuphead instead, she should have installed the game. It takes two seconds to go into your Steam library and hit install. And at least an hour before the stream, figure out how Remote Play works and whether the connection is good. That way you can move on to a different game if things go awry without delays and without doing it on-stream.

I love Mori a lot, but its because I love her that I'll call out her failings.

>>4590254
Happy now whinebeats? We lost tons of soundpost materials. Fucking idiots. We could've added one more entry to the streamable pastebin. Fuuuuckkk, I'm raging now. Has she ever been that cute and scared in another stream before? I need clips of her whimpering...

>prime Mori/Gura content privated
welp

>>4590208
What the fuck man

>>4590404
seems like anon doesn't know about the T4 GFE ASMR streams

>>4590468
You say that like >we didn't archive it already, anon

>>4586901
this

the ttrpg was good too for this reason. its shit she actually cares about

>>4590498
T4 is weak stuff, it’s about those T6 ramblefaps

>>4590483
Hey kid, got some disk space?
https://mega.nz/folder/IvgzWYiB#PBI2VCzffNx1KkcXDTZ84g

>>4590350
This is what breeders want. They want to break her down and have her depend on them. That's it I'm out. I'm going to continue my recording reps and maybe post my Bully cover on her tag someday. At least I'll be contributing something

>>4590532
>>4590551
Clip the part where she ran into a corner and whimpered like a puppy pls.

>>4590254
I FUCKING HATE MORI SHE DOSN'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT HOLOLIVE

>>4590350
I want Parasocial Mori

Watching Mori become strong in real-time! Learn from it, remember how crappy it feels, then embrace how good it feels when you succeed! Leave the haters with nothing.

>>4590424
She's not kiara

God I remember thinking and saying Mori might be a wreck that is unable to properly take care of herself but atleast shes not crazy but I'm finally accepting that she is kind of unstable

>>4590424
That's not how it works, retard. You don't have to be a jackass to make her learn from her mistakes.

>>4589664
This is pretty reasonable.
I could live with one less stream a week if she can put a bit more time into prep for casual game streams. It can work out with JP collabs but sadly there's a whole ocean between her and all her genmates, gotta jump through a couple hoops to make sure things go smoothly.
I do feel a little bad about it all seeing her tweet about privating it but at least it shows she sees the problem and tries to stop this sort of thing from happening, for herself if nothing else cause I'm sure she's beating herself up over it.

>>4590919
No one who goes into this business and has to maintain an audience can possibly be stable, anon.

>>4590028
The comments

>>4590815
My boy will be forged into steel by the fires of her own cringe

>>4590254
Nice.. she tweets about it. Next stream she'll talk about it, sobs about it, akas goes brr while at it, ez mone

Based calli

>>4590815
I want mori to bite the head off a rrat on stream like ozzy did with that bat

It's a pretty simple fix and that's what Mori needs to realize. She's not going to have some breakdown from it or go running off. She's been through so much more difficult things.
As always, doomposters suck and will try to pour salt in the smallest of wounds.

Stopped by to give my condolences skelebros. Between this and the overblown reaction to the last zatsudan you're in for a lot of shitposting for least a week.

>>4591010
>made it a soundpost
My fucking sides.

>>4591048
She's too sweet for that. Get her a candy one. She doesn't even like to kill bugs if it can be avoided. Neither do I, actually.

>>4591111
thanks takobro
maybe the rrat list needs to become a regular thing

>>4591065
Its a simple fix, but I think it hits harder for a lot of people because we're 8 months into this. These sorts of things shouldn't happen anymore.

>>4591111
Its alright, we can manage. Everyone has their turn getting shit on.

i don't want mori to be sad

Is /hlgg/ ogey?

>>4591225
I think she's more frustrated with herself than sad
>>4591278
They're reeling because they're not used to the shit they complain about to actually be addressed

>>4591010
>file
Holo based

>>4591278
They hate Mori
nothing has changed

>>4591225
Same desu

>>4591065
The last time she got criticized she was seething and we got that passive aggressive as hell asmr. Oh look what’s on the schedule again...

I'm so glad I found Mori

>vshojo girls spend an hour and a half on stream last week fighting tech issues to get a collab running
>it was a fun time for everyone involved with a lot of laughs
>holoEN girls go through the same shit this week
>their fanbase berates them, sends mori into depression, puts off gura from doing more collabs for the next three years, will analyze audio channels for the sound of mori's tears rolling down her cheeks next stream
I'm not trying to start tribalism shit but man the people who watch hololive really are the lowest of the low

>>4591428
same

>>4591111
Thanks, bro. The line will be held. Right now it's Mori but those kinds of posters will just move onto the next target when they see a chance.

>>4591202
I think this is finally where she realizes it. Removing a VOD and making a statement that blunt means she realizes something was wrong.
Solo streams are usually fine but she has all these big plans for collabs, where wants to represent herself and hololive, and that kind of stuff won't reflect all that well. So she needs to fix it and she can.

Reminder that this was all started by deadbeats, all the antis had to do was press the like button. Couldn't even be bothered to make it a simple concise criticism but had to make it a full blown essay instead. She actually deserves better. I wouldn't mind her joining vsingers instead so you faggots won't get to hear her other than in songs

>>4591511
This. I watch them both and the thing that's always weird to me is how EN girls and their streams as something really special while with twitch tubers it's always chill af. EN streams always feel like some kind of event

>tfw will never know the name of this hero >>4591007

>>4591404
which asmr was this

>>4591650
Twitch streams for long periods of time on a much more regular basis because they have zero discoverability when they're offline. That's why they do a bunch of low effort content like watching Youtube and other things that allow them to keep the camera rolling. Hololive works on a different manner where streams are supposed to be a reasonably interesting short time event and if you need more, you go to someone else inside the brand.

>>4591556
I hope so too, clearly she doesn't actually give a shit about streaming. She should really stop eating everyone's time

>>4591813
The one in his head

>>4591870
You should stop breathing.

>>4591737
>N
Could it be?

>stream private, mori upset
>"mission accomplished"
jfc. I'm not even mad about the comment because I do think it was fair, nor at Mori because it's her personality and these things happen, but why the fuck would you celebrate things turning out this way

>>4592036
yes, it was the famed niggerman

>>4590254
Absolutely pathetic
>please do not beat yourself up
More like someone should come and beat her up if this shit happens again, also of she ever thinks of hanging out with her garbage friends

>>4592093
Because it might actually, for once, signify that she'll allot 5 minutes for some basic prep next time lolno
As for shitposters, well, you know why

>>4591813
The past drawing one where she started on Suisei. She even admitted later during Spiritfarer that she was being a bit aggressive.

>>4592093
Maybe this time she'll actually learn to prepare, however unlikely that is

>>4592167
>>4591980

>>4592093
is /hlgg/ celebrating rn?

>>4592167
Just kill yourself.

>>4591737
It was Nikodem
>>4589664
Liam
And one more comment by a throwaway Backup&Containment
I'm blaming all you autistic novelist fucks if Mori takes another break or shows up down next stream

>>4592246
they're fluctuating between the usual Mori hate and deadbeat hate

>>4591201
Haaton actually, it was just the only deadbeat picture I had. I sympathize with the plight of dealing with antis. You should see the schizo in the Haachama split.

>>4592303
Nikodem being one of the original paypig is based.

>>4592303
Anon it's constructive criticism you should wait your seething until 4chan faggots specially /hlgg/ starts appearing in mori's comment section

>>4592303
Is he HERE? I recall someone posting something like that a few threads back. He had a lot to say and was kinda being a schizo. Is he that anon?

>>4592374
I never thought he's on paypig level but he's t3 and he follows/SCs almost all the indies she shills

I'll fucking kill you if mori cancles her Collab with Ollie and Coco because of this.

>>4592374
>>4590574 This based repbeat summed it up best. Schizos want Mori to be dependent on them.

I beileve this rrat

>>4592303
>spoiler1
Shit, shoulda known. pretty good writeup, glad he got it out of the system

>>4592572
I prefer this one >>4591047

>>4592572
MORI PIÑATA
LETS GO

Deadbeats are the best of the worst when it comes to fanbases also I'm schizophrenic and love Mori

>>4592494
Nobody wants her to cancel anything anon. What people want is proper stream prep.

Mori keeps hurting me in our parasocial relationship

>>4592638
Knowing mori, it's unlikely she always almost all the time listen to her genmates and people she work with and agree on them if their reasoning is justifiable

>>4592494
The collab is gonna be shit anyways. Coco and Mori should've just done a 1v1 collab that wasn't meme review first. Ollie and Coco together are going to be too overpowering for Mori to deal with.

do people really actually give a fuck about tech issues this much? sure its dumb of her to not test shit beforehand but at the end of the day as long as the ppl collabing are on screen and interacting i do not give a fuck. and this isnt me trying to white knight mori, it applies to any and all vtubers. im not watching vtubers for the high quality gaming content. im watching for their personality

its different if some shit happens that gets in the way of that but this had plenty of mori and gura being cute and having fun together, which is all u need

>wake up
>collab was scuffed
>everyone called it
>VOD privatized because, despite being warned by everyone, Mori just plowed on ahead anyway
This woman makes it unnecessarily difficult to be a fan sometimes and I don't even know why she does it anymore.

>>4592801
I mean, if you wanted to see them interacting, you lost out on 30 minutes of it because they couldn't start the stream.

>>4592789
Coco and Ollie are gonna be socializing like normal people do while Mori fails to understand how the game works as usual and stays quiet

>>4590335
>You guys are acting as if she does this every other week.
I cannot recall a week where Mori didn't suffer from avoidable "tech issues." Maybe the week before she went on break?

>>4592694
someone wanting it or not doesn't matter if she goes off the grid for another week

>>4588679
Because mori works hard and respects other talented people. Calli also takes "constructive criticism" like a bitch. None of the other holoEN takes "constructive criticism" like Calli does. This empowers deadbraps and makes them think Mori is better because they are essentially grooming Calli.

>>4592922
She won't, chill out.

>>4592801
>do people really actually give a fuck about tech issues this much?
Personally I do because it's usually completely avoidable if not for the girls obnoxious incompetence, and no amount of "teehee EN curse strikes again xD Typical HoloEN not preparing their stuff! xD" joking ever makes it not be annoying as fuck.
And most of the time they don't just turn their stream into a zatsudan if shit doesn't work, instead they waste half an hour trying to fix shit while the collab partner just stands around awkwardly, before finally switching to some kusoge nobody asked for.

Especially since in this case, apparently people already warned her the lag would be too great and she ignored them.

That said, maybe it's not so much the tech issues themselves as it was the straw that broke the camels back. The shitty Coco collab is still in everyone's memory, then she did the "collab with a non-vtuber" thing that got people mad all over again, and now this.

>>4592801
Yes, their personality really shines through when they are just sitting there and troubleshooting, actually playing the fucking game is just too distracting

>>4586708
Will she do a karaoke stream next week?

>>4592801
no one has issues with tech problems, people have an issue over Mori walking into a wall face first since she can't trust the signs saying 'there is a wall here, consider another route'
it's fun to see in games, funny when applied to some of her life stories, terrible when applied to everything else

>>4592303
>It was Nikodem
Based. He called out that her unarchived karaoke was inevitably going to run into issues that cause her to delay it again too.

>>4592801
I feel like it hits harder for some because of the limited time that she streams. She usually has these streams slotted into an already full schedule, but If she was the type to stream for longer periods of time than these issues would just be a drop in the bucket for them like it was for the Pikamee cuphead stream

>>4591111
Wait what over blown reaction to the Zatsudan?

>>4592694
its not about what you want its about her state of mind and how she could go "Fuck im such a retard why should I do anything with these two when its gonna fail anyways!"

>>4592976
>The shitty Coco collab is still in everyone's memory, then she did the "collab with a non-vtuber" thing that got people mad all over again, and now this.
So it's just schizos acting up again, ogey.

>>4592494
If this is the kick in the ass our boy needed, the net collab will be 10/10.

>>4592572
I kind of almost believe this. If she actually had a meeting last night. Then had what happened today. Mori may have asked a manager, or been messaged, about how to square her shit away.
So she can have less stress when streaming and will do everyone proud when going into events with others.

>>4592093
I will never understand how the EN that says people should criticize her when she fucks up instead of coddling her ended up with a bunch of fags who do the latter all the fucking time. She fucked up. She's taking responsibility for fucking up. Will she improve? Hopefully probably not and that's better than letting her think carrying on while being an unprepared mess is the solution.

>>4591065
>pic
Shit, can I have salsa please? I have to give this dude a like or something.

>>4592976
>collab with a non-vtuber
Huh? Am I forgetting something?

>>4592805
It's simple, she wanted to go through with it because she liked the game and wanted to enjoy it with one of her favorite genmates. Mori is really that simple.
We're talking about the same woman who moved to another country just because she liked an artist from an extremely niche genre.
It's the part of her that's so endearing but also makes you feel so concerned about her. I see her more of a daughter to guide and take care of more than a gf or a wife.

>>4593147
>I see her more of a daughter to guide and take care of more than a gf or a wife.
Schizzy in the hizzy

>>4592805
>This woman makes it unnecessarily difficult to be a fan sometimes
I feel this. I pretty much just watch VODs of the streams that go well nowadays, because going into a live stream is a coinflip on whether it'll be Mori being wonderful or Mori being a colossal dumbass.

I feel like 3-4 streams a week would be ideal for Mori if they were specifically scheduled with no other colliding shit
aka. how majority of JPs and Ina does it

>>4592801
Occasional tech issues are whatever, nobody can expect things to run right all the time. Tech issues where you're just a fucking idiot who doesn't listen to people are annoying. And when the latter is a semi-regular problem, yes, people's frustration is going to boil over. If she didn't schedule herself in such a way where she only has 5 seconds to breathe before she's running off to do something else maybe she could take a minute out of her day to test things. Or better yet, she could just listen to people telling her something isn't going to work considering even a child has a better grasp of technology than Mori.

>>4592801
For solo streams? Eh. Seeing her mess around can be amusing.
For collabs? Yes. She's going to feel bad if she thinks she wasted someone else's time.

How would you react if Mori got another manager to take care of these tech issues before streaming? What if it was (you)?

>>4593133
SV, the tournament shit, skip

>>4586708
Her kino tabletop stream reignited my urge for watching her but this stream makes me realize she has not grown much after those crash bandicoot streams in terms of a game streamer

>>4592801
I give a fuck about the fact that she is actively regressing. And then she just ignores criticism or takes it the wrong way and just "works harder" until her body fails.

>>4593248
These things are a problem at her level, not a management level. The only thing a manager could do at this point would be to tell her to take ten fucking minutes to test out the game pre-stream.

I worry about Mori's next stream. I hope she can bounce back.

>>4593147
Based daughterbeat.

>>4592483
idk if he was the one you were thinking of, but that guy is or at least was a hlgg regular in the past.

>>4593248
>>4593216

>>4593046
Why do you want her to embarrass herself again? If she can actually go through and figure out what went wrong and try to be better she won't cancel the collab, if she can't she should cancel so she doesn't look like a retard again

>>4592890
What were the last few avoidable technical issues you could remember? I can only remember the asmr drawing one . The last gura collab before this was scuffed due to internet issues. Do you count problems with her internet as avoidable technical issues?

>>4593248
I fucking wish that Cover, a literal tech company would provide technical support for all their talents.

>>4593248
Management shouldn't have to hold her hand every minute and explain to her in simple terms that Japan and North America are very, very, very, very far away and this causes latency issues when playing video games together. Especially considering she already had this problem, acknowledged it, then just thought it fucking went away for some reason?

>>4593291
The problem is that her next stream up is really the worst possible one it could be. If she could swap it and the ASMR drawing around that would work wonders.

>>4593352
>Do you count problems with her internet as avoidable technical issues?
She did say that her internet does this thing of randomly cutting out around the same time every day. So, if she knows that, she could just schedule around that instead of... not scheduling around it and prematurely ending collabs. Or get an ISP that doesn't do that. Or contact them and ask why the fuck is that at all. So yes, I do consider that avoidable when there are steps taken to avoid it. Unavoidable would be if where she lived that experiences rolling blackouts, that's unavoidable because you can't just up and move at a moment's notice.

>>4593438
*when there are steps that could be taken to avoid it.

>>4593362
I agree that it's not a management thing, but why can't they have a staff who's job is actually taking care of technical support?

>>4593462
They should, that I agree with absolutely. But even then, a solution/answer that's a Google search away shouldn't require several people monitoring her to make sure she doesn't fuck something up.

What the fuck happened

I was teaching some frens how to do Vault of Glass and come back to a privated stream and doomer Mori tweets

>>4593362
She literally saw people telling her that when she was delaying the stream.
https://streamable.com/ydsmof

>>4593462
Because its unnecessary. Streamers don't fucking need staff to ensure their games are properly installed and co-op connections are working, its basic shit that anyone can figure out. Mori just needs to shift a bit more of her time towards stream prep and have some common sense about her.

>>4593362
Jfc, do I have to spell it out for you? The only reason she still wanted to go through with it is because she thought playing that game with gura would be fun. She doesn't care about the details as long as she gets to play that game with gura. She's extremely naive, she's shown this multiple times.

>>4593122
Damn. This is why I hate saving art from Twitter. Went looking but can't find it, saved in a while back during the Minecraft collab.

>>4593537
Mori thought Cuphead's remote play would be acceptable across thousands of miles. It wasn't. They regressed to Phasmophobia, but it was too late to save the stream. Bit of a shitshow, and she's already sensitive to that sort of thing from the Cocollab. So she took it down.

Mori wouldn't have this problem if she wasn't so against listening to chat.
https://streamable.com/ydsmof
https://files.catbox.moe/nli3rm.webm

>>4593546
She's had people tell her for well over a month that it wouldn't work when she brought up the idea of a cuphead collab on stream. She had people telling her rcg wouldn't work for the exact same reasons.

>>4593546
>>4593603
lmao

>>4592801
The thing about tech issues is that most of the time they're predictable, preventable or both. Mori has an amazing amount of skills, but she seems to be the kind of person that looks at a computer like a magic box that does things for her without even remotely understanding anything about it beyond instructions she is aware of. For instance, by now she should've realized that any game they try to play over the pacific should be either turn-based or otherwise not affected by latency. Yet she tries games that absolutely need good latency and also that don't even have any sort of native multiplayer. Also she has really weird aversion towards collab zatsudans even though they're in a way extremely easy to set up without any potential for difficulties ruining things and just need some sort of preparation for things to talk about or Marshmallow open for half an hour.

>>4593580
Yeah, I kind of expected that, seeing that it was taking a while. Thanks for trying m8

Hey deadbeats, chumbud here. Tell your oshi to pay less attention to negativity. The collab was scuffed but fine

>>4593368
And it's not only going to be awkward for her. Could you imagine some Shadowverse pro having to interact with a vtuber?

>>4593571
It's not unnecessary when their whole job depends on full of technical stuff. She isn't an ordinary streamer with a handful of viewers and Cover could easily pay a staff from the cut they get.

>>4593438
So you agree that the technical scuff she had recently was only the asmr drawing one and internet issues? That doesn't seem like a lot to me. What happened to her having avoidable technical issues every other week?

>>4593579
>She doesn't care about the details as long as she gets to play that game with gura.
That's beyond unprofessional, that's just childish and retarded.

>>4593666
Howdy Chumbud! The stream wasn't awful, but it was indicative of issues that Mori has needed to fix for a while and that we were somewhat hopeful she's ameliorated over the past eight months.

Stop talking and look at this Mori.
https://twitter.com/17_tmsk/status/1400882053944541185

>>4593666
>The collab was scuffed but fine
Sorry friend, but not having a game installed at the time you're supposed to go live is most definitely NOT fine.

>>4593682
Well anon, explain how ever other fucking streamer manages to run their shit solo just fine. Streaming is a one-man job, whether you have 3 viewers or 30,000.

>Kari-san, you cannot play River City Girls with Same-chan. The latency between Japan and North America is simply too much.
>Damn, that sucks... Alright, Cuphead it is then.
>Kari-san, no, that game suffers from the same issues as River City Girls. It simply will not work the way you think it will.
>Nah, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine. We'll MAKE it work, and if it doesn't we'll just play Phasmo or something.
>...Fine. You have Phasmophobia installed, yes?
>No, why would I do that?

>>4593738
Proof that every Mori should have a ponytail. Actually, every V-tuber should have a ponytail. Don't. You. Think. We. Really. Need. To. Officially. Give. Everyone. Ponytails?

>>4593738
capeless Mori will come out when jacketless Mori does

>>4590551
Based

Why can't you guys accept that there's a possibility that the reason she chose those games was simply because she thought that they looked fun to play with gura? She seemed so excited explaining cuphead to gura

>>4593906
If everyone did things just because they feel good without caring about the details we'd all be getting high on morphine. Just because you want something doesn't mean it's going to work. Life isn't going to twist itself around your desires and you can either cope and adapt or keep beating yourself up because you keep fucking up.

You stupid niggers better learn to shut the fuck up before you make your own oshii graduate

>>4593757
>Well anon, explain how ever other fucking streamer manages to run their shit solo just fine. Streaming is a one-man job, whether you have 3 viewers or 30,000.
Because they don't have a choice. But you're talking about the same shit as anons who question why does Mori order everything and not just go and buy it. She isn't just a streamer, but a musician, artist, etc. In that time she can do other things that matter much more. Have you ever heard about an assistant?

>>4593666
It's not fine but it's not unforgivable either. It's just some stuff Mori needs to improve on her end so things are as good as they should be. Mori and Gura will always have a fun time.

>>4593738
Dig the capeless but without the veil & tiara it feels wrong with that outfit.

How long is it going to be before /vt/ bullies Calli into graduation?

>>4593906
I don't doubt she did, but she should also realize that there are laws of physics and they don't bend just because you want them to. Ping is a fucking thing and making Gura suffer through 2000ms is not a good thing.

>>4593643
There have been times where Amelia, the Indian tech support of EN, has quashed tech shit on stream within 2 minutes that probably would have caused Mori to take a 20 minute break and consult her manager. It's unreal.

>>4593757
>>4593766
Guac
Brrrraaaapppp

>>4593906
That's not a possibility, it's the truth. It doesn't excuse the fact that several people told her playing that game with Gura would be impossible, and that she failed to even get it set up beforehand.

>>4593906
yeah I want to win the fucking lottery and be a billionaire because it looks fun to be rich

Man, this fucking sucks.

>>4593975
>Implying /vt/ matters at all to the outside world

>>4593906
I accept it, but I really wish they played a bit beforehand to test out the latency.
In fact, I wish they all would play more games together off stream so that they could have fun with each other build more rapport while finding out which games they can actually put up on stream

>>4593906
When your own members tell you there's going to be severe issues that ruin the stream, maybe listen to them instead of being all smug because the games worked for 5 seconds.

>>4593961
>In that time she can do other things that matter much more
Anon all the issues we saw today could have been avoided with one (1) hour of prep time, at most. Its not that hard and not that time consuming.

>>4593965
huh, I thought something felt off

>>4593946
I'm not justifying her reason you absolute retard. All I said was the reason she went ahead with that game wad because she thought that it would be fun to play with gura. I'm defending her reasoning you mouth breather.

>>4593906
Why not play those games with some JPs since they wouldn't suffer the latency issues then.

>>4594105
>All I said was the reason she went ahead with that game wad because she thought that it would be fun to play with gura.
And that's literally a child's response to an issue.
>I want it
>Too bad, it doesn't work
>BUT I WANT IT

>>4594082
I was talking about more generally Cover providing technical support for all their talents before.

>>4594109
Because Calli is too awkward to make due with her broken Japanese most of the time

>>4594136
Reminds me of her temper tantrum over the Critikal collab

>>4594008
>>4594040
I'm not defending her you retards. I simply answered all those retarded questions
>hurr durrr why she pick that game
It's clear why she went through with that. Doesn't excuse her but stop repeating that idiotic question.

>>4593975
I just want to bully her out of complacency and constantly (and badly) winging it, if something like that is too much for her then maybe she doesn't actually fit to be a streamer (not everyone can be)

>>4593983
Ame has ton of streaming experience, that's what she's best at. Mori doesn't have it, her set of skills is completely different. People have different strengths and that's normal, that's what makes HoloEN in general so impressive since same can be said about all five of them. In same fashion Mori laughs off or swears at herself when she fucks up karaoke and keeps going unfazed while Ame shuts down and almost panics.

>>4594220
It's clear why she chose those two games. It's not clear why, despite everyone telling her that it would not work, she thought it would anyway. Did she think everyone was just trying to play some epic prank? "Haha Mori, you didn't play Cuphead with ya little homie even though you could've!"?

>>4594231
Or maybe you can just move on watching somebody else.

>>4594232
Ame shuts down because she's a tryhard. Generally Mori doesn't give too much of a fuck. Unfortunately she was broadsided by Gura fans who felt like they were let down.

>>4590208
>>4590254
>Clearly I needed more time off.
Somebody got chewed out

You all just need to learn how to get over something, Mori has taken the message. continuing to rage about it is fucking bad for yourself. This is just how life is when you love an autistic retard.

>>4594279
then people should stop asking why she picked the game and *start* asking why she isn't listening - previous anon was simply pointing out how stupid the focus on a retarded aspect of the problem is.

>>4594369
>Mori has taken the message
Now which message is it? Because last time she "got the message" she thought her lack of Shadowverse streams was the problem.

>>4594293
when Mori actually tries she's the most entertaining EN

>>4586743
No shit Sherlock

>>4594279
She simultaneously doesn't have enough tech knowledge to understand why things wouldn't work, but is also jaded by haters to the point of shrugging off genuine concern and advice

It’s 4am mori pls sleeb

>>4594232
True. It's also through taking inspiration from their peers that they all improve their own weaknesses.
Ame goes out in front of thousands to sing because she sees Mori do it. Gura asks Mori for advice and feedback about stuff on stream.
Mori sees the creative elements Amelia introduces to the streams and wants her own (and she's far from the only one) If she really wants to fix the issue of being unprepared (and it seems clear she does) then the help is there.

Never understood why people get anal about the quality of a fucking livestream. Like, if it ruins your day that something has tech issues maybe you shouldn't base your life around hololive streams?

>>4594279
>It's not clear why
It's clear why. She's stubborn as fuck. That's the best and worst part of her. We got roki because of her stubbornness. On the other hand, the scuff happened because of that same trait of hers

>>4593685
Aaaand silence from him. Trying to push a rrat that's easily disproven is fucking hilarious.

>>4594467
>dude why do you care about whether your oshi puts out good content bro just don't care about anything be cool like me

>>4594411
If you want to be there at her highest, then suck it up when she is below that.

>>4594293
Or maybe Mori could put some fucking effort in. The TTRPG collab was amazing specifically because she worked hard to make it good. Her solo streams the month before she took her break were all good except for Village, that was either "okay" to just annoying to watch depending on your perspective. When Mori wants to try, she's great. When she doesn't want to try, when she's just showing up, when she doesn't listen to anybody because she thinks she knows what she's talking about, you get this morning's collab.

>>4594375
Thank you, finally someone gets it.
People are still asking why she picked those two games when the answer is very clear. Why she decided to go through with it despite knowing the possible technical difficulties is a different topic altogether.

>>4594369
Yeah I'm done. She knows she fucked up, and everything about what could have been done to prevent it has already been said 10 times over. I trust she'll be fine and hopefully learn from this.

Mori Love

>>4594299
>Ame shuts down because she's a tryhard
Just like Mori. Just like everyone in EN actually. When they fuck up something they're familiar with they know what to do and how to fix it on the fly and continue showing their stronger side. When they fuck up something they're bad at they panic since they don't know how to salvage it.

>>4594501
NTA but unironically yes. You guys are more mentally unstable than kpop stans

>>4594467
>Never understood why people get anal about the quality of a fucking livestream.
Game journalists can't even finish the fucking tutorial but apparently live streamers need to do a full system diagnostic on everything they do before attempting a game at a rescheduled time. These fucking people are unbelievable.

>>4594601
Just jump onto the next trendy hobby already if you already don't give a shit about this one.

>>4594549
The phasmo part was good though? We got a lot of good interactions and discussions between the two of them. Did you watch the stream?

>>4594624
Game journalists are treated as a professional joke by everyone except other game journalists. You chose the worst analogy.

>>4594393
Shes an autistic retard so most likely the wrong one but we'll have to wait to find out. Mori kind of really does need like a coach or Manager who can look at this and be like "They're Angry you did it like this" "Do it like this next time" and who also needs to straight up remind her "Did you remember to do it like this now" because she will forget it

>>4594630
I like this hobby. I liked it enough that I started my jp reps two years ago. I'm not mentally unstable enough to let streams affect my mental state though

>>4594501
The only times Mori's streams have ever really disappointed me were when she wasn't streaming during breaks and the 2 ASMR streams with scuffed audio. You mentally ill fucks put internet livestreams on a pedestal of importance where it's a FUCKING DISASTER if something gets moved, cancelled, or has tech issues. It is not that important in any way, Mori could do a month of streams where an hour is trying to fix audio and it would not matter in the slightest. You need to unironically get a life, or a hobby, outside of basing every day on whatever your oshi is gonna stream and how HQ that stream is.

>>4594654
So she needs a tard wrangler?

>>4594630
Watching vtubers is not a hobby, watching anything is not a hobby

>>4594645
>Game journalists are treated as a professional joke
Yeah no shit dude I was describing the bottom of the barrel. That was the point. They're still PROFESSIONAL. People need to stop stressing over this idea that everything needs to be high quality production value. Let the girls be themselves instead of driving them up the wall. I don't want them to feel like they're producing a fucking documentary instead of having fun.

Unfortunately we have to wait a few days for the next collab to see how Mori handled this latest test. The SV stream tomorrow might show improvement in that specific game but since we don't know who it's with there is no way to tell what to expect, I want her to be in a good mood and have fun. The drawing & ASMR one is a solo stream so no challenges there and she might go more into what she's feeling. Last I want to say on it is this is a good chance for Mori to fix minor issues. Not because every stream needs to be perfect but because Mori is a professional and sees herself as one, meaning she feels guilty when something doesn't go right. As has been for a long time, her biggest anti is herself. She needs to kick her own ass.

>I liked the collab and it was fun. Why did you retards hate it so much?
Maybe I need to take my meds but it feels like some of these are just falseflagging yesman to farm (you)'s from deadbeats who were annoyed with the stream.

>>4594742
>Watching vtubers is not a hobby, watching anything is not a hobby
You are retarded. Watching films is absolutely a hobby.

>>4594703
Amen brother. I guess that's what happens if someone's entire life and personality revolves only around hololive.

>>4593108
>I will never understand how ... ended up with a bunch of fags
A lot of the blame lies with the social media good boy points, but there might be more to it.
Would you believe me if I said I don't get frustrated by her fuckups? And it's not because I'm not invested in her content, quite the opposite. But somehow my support ends up being unconditional more often than not, especially when I know she's perfectly capable of beating herself up as it is.
Now imagine people like me exist who *aren't* constantly bombarded by /vt/ shitposting and frustrated fans egging each other on.

>>4594753
5 minutes to make sure something works and won't break in the middle of a stream is not the gargantuan effort you pretend it is. I put more effort into proof-reading my posts for typos than Mori did with Cuphead and nobody's throwing thousands of dollars at me for me.

>>4594787
Watching film itself isn't a hobby but discussing or reviewing it could be. A hobby involves creating something not consuming something.

>>4594393
>"I'll work harder"
The wrong message. There is no "working harder" here; that is not the issue. The issue is she packs her day so full of shit that she can't even take an hour to, you know, open up, or even install, the fucking game she's playing that day. If she needs to stream less to continue doing her music shit while being able to making room to actually prepare for her streams, then do it.

>>4593793
In our dreams, maybe.
>>4593738
>no cleak
Huh, this was way hotter in my imagination.

>>4594787
Kek, look at this dude. Bet he's the kind of person who'd put sleeping and watching movies as hobbies in his resume

>>4594703
she talked about wanting tobimprove and people pointed out things she should improve at
I'm personally not upset, just hope she starts doing better, again - she is capable, she just gotta be willing again

>>4594774
I wouldn't even call them yes-men, they're literally just contrarians.
>Mori fucked up
>Mori acknowledged herself that she fucked up
>"NAH MORI WAS GREAT FUCK YOU GUYS AND YOU KNOW WHAT FUCK MORI TOO HOW DARE SHE SAY SHE FUCKED UP"
Half of these dudes read like they stole their posts off of the Twitter responses with how much dick-sucking they do and Mori isn't even here to read it and think they're such great people for being so understanding.

>>4594837
Here's a Guac for you my man. Big ups

>>4594703
Blame Cover for their marketing. Every stream is some special event for generally a short hour or two. If it were built as more casual and long-form then people wouldn't have such high expectations.

>>4594904
Thanks, SEAnig-kun. I'll be sure to add it to my filter along with all of your usual avatars.

>>4594852
It’s how she learned and how she got where she is now. The “work hard” mentality is gonna be hard to break.. sometimes I think she just likes doing shit last minute and enjoys the thrill that comes with it

>>4594897
Some of you fucks really have no self-awareness huh?

>>4594709
Yes, unironically. Channel her autism to positivity.

>>4594925
>actually using filters
My sides, you’re too much anon

>>4594787
I thought passive activities like that were usually referred to as "pastime", no?
t. ESL

I wonder how JPbeats feel about the situation. I have no clue if the scuffed streams even bother them

>>4594897
Except no one is saying that. All people are saying is that despite the scuff it was still a fine stream. The phasmo part of the collab was actually entertaining. People actually tuned in and stayed during that part. We all agree that she fucked up, but saying that the phasmo part wasn't entertaining in thre slightest is just being a contrarian.

>>4594945
>The “work hard” mentality is gonna be hard to break
She doesn't need to break it, she could just "work hard" at the right thing instead of needing to experience some setback first to realize why what she was doing was the wrong thing.

>>4594816
It's just as annoying to read the blind praise on her tweets as it is to read the blind hatred fro schizos on this board. I hope she reads both to see both kinds of insanity and realizes between them is a middle ground of rationality.
This entire thing is meant to be fun for everyone involved and it usually is. Some take it way too far with treating each stream like a huge thing or every word spoken as sacred. Blah.

>>4594852
"Work harder" seems like a general statement here. Like "I'll do better" but in the typical Japanese industry lingo we've seen in every apology.
If she thinks less streams would help then I would be fine with it. I don't want her feeling negative kinds of stress, only the good type where it's from excitement at going out on such a large stage.

>>4594838
>A hobby involves creating something not consuming something.
So reading books isn't a hobby? Great reasoning.

Can we break the post record with this thread?

>>4595067
no

>>4594925
>he thought I was that p5 faggot
Kek, you're going to miss out on a lot though cause we're definitely going to be looping back into the guac arc sometime in the future

>>4595009
She needs to reach out to someone to proof her streams before she goes live. Feels like she just tries shit on her own. Cant even use google and has to ask chat for tech advice.

>>4595081
>missing out
ogey

>>4595067
Nah, the guac arc actually almost hit the bump limit. It ended at around 1300 posts I think

>>4594566
She most likely won't but thats what it means to love an autistic retard. You've got to just be there for the highs and the lows. Over all I'm having a good time I just wish some of you guys weren't so fucking mental.

>>4594501
Caring is good, but getting mad is not something I can understand. If a stream doesn't engage me, I zone out and draw/read the threads. For example, today's phasmo wasn't as fun as the one Mori did with Ollie, so I just tabbed out and enjoyed it as cute background caligula noises. Didn't feel angry at all, somehow.

Why do Calli antis get accused of being deadbeats?

>>4595098
If only there would be a tech company nearby providing support.

Mori and Gura Love!

>>4595052
Yeah? It's the same as watching a movie. Writing your own stories, discussing stories, or reviewing stories is a hobby. But reading itself is not.

>>4595131
Because deadbeats are unironically some of her worst antis

>>4595051
>If she thinks less streams would help then I would be fine with it.
Would she even be willing to do that? Her problem is that she overstuffs her schedule with projects, music production, etc because she constantly needs to feel busy.
I don't see herself suddenly making herself less busy by doing less streams when she was proud about the amount of streams she did every week.
The "I should've taken a longer break" seems to imply she's still dealing with the fallout of whatever caused her break to start early. My guess would be that she's dealing with something emotional but who knows.

>>4595181
You're thinking about t.deadbeats

>>4594915
this.
I'm literally watching an indie go through some technical difficulties right now, but she's being really casual about it and letting chat help her out since she knows that the stream is gonna be awhile. I don't think that's cover's marketing though, its just that Mori fits these streams into cracks of time rather than dedicating a whole chunk of her day to them

Can't wait for her to reap herself on stream because of KFPs telling her every stream is shit

>>4595131
It started off back as a meme in the /jp/ days. Replying "t.deadbeat" to Mori antis was the equivalent to ogey. After a while, people forgot where the meme came from and unironically started to think all of Mori antis were deadbeats.

>>4595209
Can't believe people would hurt her like that after hearing her cry like a puppy in the corner during the phasmo collab

>>4591511
>>4591650
Nah, it's just cause they're Hololive hence they have to be set upon by schizos and antis for even the slightest mess up whereas nobody gives a shit when literal whose on Twitch fail. Not saying that Vshojo are literal whos but it's clear there's bigger hate when a Holo messes up Vs any other Vtuber group or indie

>>4595153
I want to see Gura kabedon Mori.

>>4595153
Homie Love

>>4594774
>>4594897
I get a sneaking suspicion your counterparts feel exactly the same way about you. Don't quote me on that though.

>>4595327
>Nobody gives a shit when literal whose on Twitch fail
Probably because nobody is watching them either. People expect a certain level of quality that at least matches "did 5 minutes of prep before streaming" from a multi-million dollar corporate VTuber, as they should. Putting your expectations in the Mariana's trench and thinking you're superior for doing so is why you're so unbearable.

>>4595266
>letting chat help her out
You mean like how chat was telling Mori that Cuphead wasn't going to work out but she ignored it?

>>4595314
It started to become a reality at some point though. The schizo ramblings in this thread are actually a lot worse than the actual anti shit on global.

>>4595339
Anon, your character height reps.

I don’t understand Mori, one of the few things she says positive about herself is that she’s a hard worker, but then she doesn’t take even an hour to prepare for a stream which is her job. Yet she does have time to do things like play pokemon, go shopping, or get more needless assets. I’m happy she’s enjoying herself and resting, but it’s obvious her schedule isn’t so packed she can’t prep.

>>4595381
That's the beauty of it. At their height difference, Gura will be right up in Mori's tits while she kabedons.

>>4595266
>and letting chat help her out since she knows that the stream is gonna be awhile
Chat DID try to help Mori out. Her response: https://streamable.com/ydsmof

>>4595131
Just read the thread, you'll see

>>4595209
Only one who would be able to answer that is her. I respect the dedication she puts into everything she does but I keep praying she will get into a stable position where she can stream as long as she would like without having to check a clock. And go into it feeling confident everything will work.

>>4595373
>>4595398
yes, or like how chat was helping her get steam remote play set up. thanks for ignoring the rest of my post

>>4594915
When does Cover market regular streams as some special event? Other than outfit reveals, birthdays and big collabs, they never market when a girl is gonna stream whatever so game or an unarchived karaoke. What the fuck are you talking about?

>>4595392
*right up in Mori's womb

>>4595366
You've been at it for hours now. You deserve a taco to go with that guac. Maybe some beans too? Uh oh brrraaappp

>>4595377
I dunno man. Sometimes it feels like antis come in this thread just to falseflag and to shit everything up.
At the very least, I've never seen anything on the level of the podcast/chileanon arc. Creating a complaint template letter to spam at Cover was pretty vile.

>>4595423
I can't fucking help her push Japan and America closer together, sorry. The most I can do is tell her to get over her fixation with collab games that fundamentally will not work due to distance, it's up to her to accept that fact.

>>4595391
her hard work means brute forcing a project or an idea

>>4595410
Beating a dead horse here but man January was so fucking good. Mori's spirits were high and the quality of her streams was amazing. I really took that for granted.

>>4595469
I'm gonna start doing my fit reps so I can move continents closer for my Mori and her homie.

>>4595373
If it wasn't for Cover and fans' autism then trying to see if Cuphead would work for 20 minutes then switching would be perfectly fine, because really it is.

>>4595456
Nah man, they're actual deadbeats with mental illness. The template letter thing is actually pathetic, cover ditched an entire country for their talents, a dozen screeching neckbeards were never going to be a real threat. JP antis on the other hand..

>>4595469
I guess I can repeat myself for you anon;
These technical issues aren't really a big issue, its just that they have a greater effect on some people because Mori fits these streams into cracks of time rather than dedicating a whole chunk of her day to them

>>4594709
Yes. I'm not even joking but she clearly does struggle to make sense of some of this stuff.

>>4595506
You'd pick a month over individual great streams? I'd rather have the last jp only stream, last asmr, last t2 membership, live show, singing collab with rikka, manga reading and ao oni over the entire month of january.

>>4595702
>manga reading
You had me until this.

>>4595650
NTA but true. I'd rather have less but longer streams. Issue is she's probably trying to do more collabs and that's going to take up a lot of slots

Some of the JP girls really need to sit Mori down and talk her through stuff.

Coco or hell maybe Marine. I remember Marine helped Kiara before.

>>4595789
the thing about talking to someone is that they need to actually listen to you

>>4595811
I still dont get why she is so stuborn

>>4595702
>You'd pick a month over individual great streams?
Uh no? Yea a lot of her best streams weren't in January but it was the most consistent month of quality she had. Personally I preferred when she played games like Crash and Blasphemous. I'm not saying all of the streams since January have been mediocre or anything though.
>asmr
Meh. Her best asmr streams were the very first one and the one after the scuffed asmr. Mori giving her kisses and brushing her hair will never be topped.

>>4595859
It's worked out for her in the past. Telling people "fuck you, I'll MAKE this work" is how she got to Japan in the first place. She just needs to balance that incredible will with the ability to take good advice.

>>4595811
Hey, you've been here for a while too. Here's your guac, with some beans too
Brrrraaaappp

>>4595859
she's used to solving every problem like a gorilla using brute force to jam the square block into the round slot, she never figured out that you're not supposed to actually do that

>>4595887
>>4595926
I dunno, I hope she can be frank about it on her ASMR stream.

Is guac brapp anon for real or is it another anti falseflagging as a deadbeat?

>>4595702
>a month of consistently good streams vs. sporadic good streams that happen all over the month
And you, the genius, pick the side with fewer streams.

Someone needs to call up Mr.Koro and A-Chan to kidnap Mori.

I just want my oshi to be happy bros

>>4595926
We got ロキ out of it though. Also the ttrpg stream? Owth? Her brute forcing her way through most things is what allowed her to reach this spot though. But it's also her biggest flaw and the reason for most of the problems she's had

>>4596042
She'll be fine, she's got a day off tomorrow to clear her head and all that.

>>4596003
Except those sporadic streams are better than all the streams in january you retard. It's good streams vs great streams along with some bad ones.

>>4596042
I honestly didn't give a fuck about the scuff though she does need to work on that. Seeing her tweet made me feel like shit. Hopefully she's doing okay.

>>4596052
>Her brute forcing her way through most things is what allowed her to reach this spot though.
And it's clearly not working for some things, so instead of trying to make it work she could just try doing things a different way? Something working in one scenario doesn't mean it's applicable to every scenario.