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This guy makes a good point.

>> No.4590538

>>4590482
The last 2 decades have proven that the slippery slope is real. I'm pretty sure that by the time I'm elderly kids will tell me I'm a bigot for not wanting to fuck my dog while wearing a fursuit.

>> No.4590589

>>4590482
Just one question, how many western companies will keep their mandated pride logo when this month is over?

>> No.4590596

Absolutely nothing happens though? If people werent there to remind other people it happened it would be like a whimper in the wind

>> No.4590636

>>4590482
>This guy
Nice try OP, nice try

>> No.4590784

>>4590596
Why has it been mandated for years? How do rainbow flags that only a small percentage of the population even identify as a symbol to support help sell soda? Explain how, "Muh capitalists only care about making money and nothing else" theory works in cases like this rabbi.

>> No.4590841

>>4590589
Was for you: >>4590784, you two are almost the same though.

>> No.4590870

Nice fanfic.

>> No.4590923

>>4590482
youre right, peko poster does make a good point. based doomers offing themselves makes me diamonds

>> No.4590924

>>4590784
Because people are retarded and think that virtue signaling actually helps increase sales

>> No.4590967

gradual is boring, I want sudden and dramatic

>> No.4591013

>>4590967
Based?

>> No.4591039

>>4590924
Nobody thinks this

>> No.4591086

>>4591039
Then why do corporations keep doing it?

>> No.4591096
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4591096

>>4590482
this dude sounds like a rambling schzoid, he fits in well here

>> No.4591110

>>4590482
>Mori collabed with trash taste. Absolutely nothing happened in the inmediate weeks and moths
Oh no no no he lacks the critical information

>> No.4591231
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4591231

>>4590482
Gatekeeping. It's the only way.
Best to let out your inner schizo now, you'll just be branded one later anyways.

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4591232

>>4590482
I am glad Hololive does not allow political pandering and won't cave in to "them", right??

>> No.4591258

>>4591086
Burgers?

>> No.4591390

they're selling soap, man.

>> No.4591434

>>4591390
Burgers?

>> No.4591451

>>4591390
What kind of soap?

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4591462

Kiara graduation when

>> No.4591509

>>4591086
The actual best theory I've heard on why this stuff is happening is hyper autistic and takes multiple pages to explain. It doesn't not seem to be a natural market response to demand.

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4591539

>>4591390
>>4591434
>>4591451

>> No.4591592

>>4591539
What in the FUCK did this senile faggot mean by this?

>> No.4591596

>>4591462
Based

>> No.4591702

>>4591592
I think it's pretty straight forward.

>> No.4591727

>>4591086
You're actually somewhat correct. The truth is a lot simpler than a lot of people realize:
>A minority of employees in the company push for shit like this
>Everyone knows that if they are denied, there will be a scandal
>Other authority figures acquiesce due to "I'm not really personally against it, and it's not a huge deal" mentality and aversion to confrontation
>It happens over and over again, for larger issues every time until the company is what you see now
This is more or less what happens

>> No.4591793

>>4590482
Why are you samefagging your post

>> No.4591797

>>4590482
The boiling frog analogy is something that has existed forever.

>> No.4591825

>>4591462
Wtf I love Kiara now?!

>> No.4591850

>>4591086
>>4590784
About half of people in the US know someone close who is LGBT so there is a wide range of familiarity + targeting niches (such as nerds who like vtubers) can be profitable itself. Somone in marketing explained this to me a long time ago ( I actually work for a corporate company so I'm not talking out of my ass like everyone else)

>> No.4591914

>>4591232
When did Kiara ever acknowledge these people? They are just trendhoppers mistaking yuri and horny women with their political goals

>> No.4591951 [DELETED] 

Why does /pol/ freak out about corporations making empty gestures to LGBT in June? They're still giving billions of dollars to conservative politicians to oppress the scary gay people.

>> No.4591957

>>4590482
can't believe a pekoposter made a good post for once. I dunno why you included the second retard in your screenshot though

>> No.4592076

>>4591951
They're the political equivalent of coombrains.

>> No.4592116

>>4591951
>They're still giving billions of dollars to conservative politicians to oppress the scary gay people
The most schizoid rat on this entire board

>> No.4592147

>>4591951
Why do faggots keep bringing up /pol/?
and why do you fags have to make everything politics? You can hate gays and not care about politics, you know

>> No.4592196

>>4592147
Because no one else other than /pol/ tourists whine about faggots in here

>> No.4592327

>>4592196

>> No.4592366

>>4592196
>/pol/ tourists
Is this the catchall term we're using now?
It's pretty ridiculous to assume these people all came from one specific board/place

>> No.4592478

>>4591951
>>4592076
>>4592116

>>>/pol/
We don't need your schizoid unfounded opinions here, we're already full.

>> No.4592503

>>4591086
For one thing, it gives them positive PR, for another it acts as a safety net. You don't want to go viral as the company who refused to support lgbt pride, and if you don't do it when every other company is doing it, people will assume it's because of bigotry.

>> No.4592530

>>4592478
I've said that /pol/ users are political coombrains. I don't want these autists in here

>> No.4592570

>>4592530
Faggots like you, who can't help but keep namedropping /pol/, should stay there.

>> No.4592602

>>4592570
I didn't even mention it in that post you raging retard

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4592653

>>4592602
You did in the post I replied to, stupid faggot
You're responding to someone else, by the way.

>> No.4592685

>>4590482
the only thing good about 3rd world countries are they could beat up and kill lgbts and degenerates

>> No.4593092

>>4590482
Based, but also this shit is getting /pol/ levels everyone needs to fuck off

>> No.4593246

>>4593092
Back to /pol/, faggot

>> No.4593385

>>4591086
Big corps have to do it or they'll lose sales by looking anti-lgbt. The gays found themselves a nice coercion tactic

>> No.4593429

>>4592685
i hate my country years ago, but after exposing myself to american twitter retards, 3rd world isnt that bad afterall. gays get stoned for sport, tradwife literally beating feminists daily, absolutely zero furry culture, complete immunity against any form of communism socialism bullshit and the most important perk : dirt cheap ciggaretes. life is great, man.

>> No.4593481

>>4593385
It's actually kind of fucked up that those loons can essentially hold up huge corporations like that, despite being such a minority

>> No.4593485

Therecis nothing wrong with being lgbt.

>> No.4593755

>>4590482
Yes, for once I agree with nousagi.

>> No.4593825

>>4593485
Maybe not, but i don't want it shoved in my face whenever i watch entertainment.

>> No.4593873

>>4591850
If you are, explain why kizunai AI failed to keep her status while some nobody's like Holo exploded worldwide

>> No.4593920

>>4591850
based. the idea that some fatshit mutt rratposting on 4chan is more keyed into the average consumer mind than corporations who enlist and pay agencies to mine data and present analytics is beyond retarded.

>> No.4593988

>>4590482
why are unitedstatesians like this?

>> No.4594025

>>4593873
corporate meddling

>> No.4594259
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4594259

I'm the one that posted the bottom comment. Pride is only used as an example. You can replace it with whatever political issue you can imagine. Race, voting, immigration; take your pick. For the record, I have nothing against gay or trans people. I have an issue with Pride because it's political.
The main point which is really being lost is that vtubing is heading down the path of entryism that every single other hobby has experienced. There is no one event that will trigger it. There will be no sudden "big yab." Nothing eventful will happen in the months following Kiara + Nyanner's collab.
But one day, seemingly all of the sudden, your chuubas will start talking politics. It will be subtle, then overt. "Basic human rights isn't political". You'll hear this a lot. Every single one of these events is one stepping stone towards that day. RIP vtubing. Enjoy it while it last.

>> No.4594319

>>4594259
burgers are the most mentally ill people on the planet

>> No.4594343

>>4594319
Burgers?

>> No.4594387

>>4594259
unironically kill yourself

>> No.4594468

>>4594387
Mentally ill burger detected

>> No.4594519

>>4594259
If they hire more political fags for gen2 it will definitely happen. No matter how talented they are, or how multilingual, never hire a politicalfag ever.

>> No.4594539

>>4594259
>>4594319
>>4594343
>>4594387
>>4594468
American

>> No.4594540

>>4593385
>The gays found themselves a nice coercion tactic
I've never met a gay who doesn't hate the rainbow logos.
The actual target audience is straight "allies" who want to feel good about using Apple products or drinking coke while ignoring that both of those companies use sweat shops and shit in their production.

>> No.4594558

>>4594539
>t. American

>> No.4594629

>>4592147
Based
>>4592196
You’re a retard
/pol/ brings up /pol/ shit to ruin everything, but faggots ask the same shit

Most normal people don’t like fags invading their hobbies, it’s simple as that

>> No.4594666

>>4593485
Enjoy your aids/suicide nigger
>>4594319
You’re a faggot

>> No.4594674

>>4591850
My thing is, why the fuck do you want the lowest common denominator of whatever you classify yourself as to be pandered and advertised to constantly, and by association you getting pandered and advertised to? Who the fuck wants companies to advertise specifically to them? Does it really boost your pride when you see a gay man drinking a Miller Lite or a black guy using dove body wash?

>> No.4594724

>>4594629
>Most normal people don’t like fags invading their hobbies, it’s simple as that
Speak for yourself, faggot. I like having retards like you here, it keeps things interesting

>> No.4594814

>>4594319
He's actually right

The United States, Colombia, the Netherlands and Ukraine tended to have higher prevalence estimates across most classes of disorder, while Nigeria, Shanghai and Italy were consistently low, and prevalence was lower in Asian countries in general. Cases of disorder were rated as mild (prevalence of 1.8–9.7%), moderate (prevalence of 0.5–9.4%) and serious (prevalence of 0.4–7.7%).[6]

Previous widely cited large-scale surveys in the US were the Epidemiological Catchment Area (ECA) survey and subsequent National Comorbidity Survey (NCS).[11] The NCS was replicated and updated between 2000 and 2003 and indicated that, of those groups of disorders assessed, nearly half of Americans (46.4%) reported meeting criteria at some point in their life for either a DSM-IV anxiety disorder (28.8%), mood disorder (20.8%), impulse-control disorder (24.8%) or substance use disorders (14.6%). Half of all lifetime cases had started by age 14 and three quarters by age 24.[12]

In the prior 12-month period only, around a quarter (26.2%) met criteria for any disorder—anxiety disorders 18.1%; mood disorders 9.5%; impulse control disorders 8.9%; and substance use disorders 3.8%. A substantial minority (23%) met criteria for more than two disorders. 22.3% of cases were classed as serious, 37.3% as moderate and 40.4% as mild.[13][14]

Europe was rated at 27% using the same study

>> No.4594841

>>4590589
yeah because when you put christmas lights up, you're not really christian unless you keep them up for the whole year

retard

>> No.4594848

American politics invade and poison every hobby, worse than bugmen spamming ever could. Both countries should get nuked to hell

>> No.4594889

>>4594674
It makes straight/white liberals feel better about themselves. For the actual people being depicted at best they know pretending to care about them has become profitable, but no one believes it's any more than that.

>> No.4595812

>>4594343
Underrated post.

>> No.4596101

>>4594814
I'm sure those other countries are so open about discussing mental health.

>> No.4596127

>>4594259
meds

>> No.4596199

>>4594259
truth

>> No.4596276

>>4596101
Mental health is a very approachable subject when you have public healthcare and dont treat it as some sort of badge of special victimhood

>> No.4596453

>>4594539
your shithole isn't the only country in America

>> No.4596646

>>4590589
0

>> No.4601902

>>4590482
scary time we're living in

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>Your oshi
>Do you genuinely believe people outside the US care about American sociopolitical "problems" and that such matters have to be linked, let alone discussed in a thread about virtual streamers under a Japanese company?
I know you like to doompost without rhyme or reason, and blame SEA for the state of this board afterwards (and "suspiciously" most complaints happen to spawn at this hour around), but be honest with yourself for a minute.

>> No.4605970

>>4593873
No idea I'm in engineering. I just get invited to meetings sometimes with marketing which are 99% about product features. Some of those guys also do the advertising sizzle though and could explain all of this waaay better than me.

>>4594674
I almost starting writing a 10 paragraph thesis on this but I'll make it short.
>Who the fuck wants companies to advertise specifically to them?
Veterans
Christians
Sports fans
Women (especially mums)
Men (check out truck ads)
Gamers (g-fuel)
The goal isnt to 'boost the pride' of the target demographic but to tie your brand to a core identity or value of theirs.

>> No.4606012

Kiara is already gay and likes LGBT art and fanfics. The only escalation is more people being aware of it, but you already would be anyway if you were KFP.

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