/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>45466289
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-qKY5aR9gI
Huh?

>>45466289
Blue Journey is ID4

>>45466332
stop ruining his bait, now he has to post it again.

>>45466289
hey at least its no homos

>>45466289
>hololive summer
Well I guess I have to go to Japan this summer.

>>45466289
It's better than "We'll just cancel these announcements later"

ghjk

Blue Journey?

>>45466498
Blue Journey is the next Stars EN wave

Why do people want EN3 so badly?

>>45467501
>19 months since Council debuted
>WHY PEOPLE WANT NEW GEN?!

>>45467501
Because the current gen's output has been abysmally low. Fresh faces will guarantee about a year of active streaming.

Also, I hate kronii.

they learnt from alternative not to over shadow the event with an announcement. Just tease and you get people hype for future announcement

>>45467501
Hope that some of them will be good considering the state of EN.
Half of them are male collaber whores, many of them are barely even active.
Meanwhile girls from other corpos are more active and show more passion and have more fresh ideas.

>>45467667
>already 10 girls to choose from
>by now all EN fans have an oshi
>I CAN'T WAIT TO DUMP MY OSHI AND GET A SHINY NEW TOY

>>45468617
This. It's disgraceful to be honest. I think people just want an excuse to increase the tribalfagging and EN3 will give them plenty of that.

NIJI DILLDO THREADS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>45467501
Lack of streams

>>45467501
Myth + Council + IRyS have grown stale and the supposed star followed Ayame regarding her priorities.
I can safely say that none of them strike me as "the one", nobody's convinced me to buy their merch or membership yet. JP or ID, on the other hand...

>>45467501
Half of Myth is practically retired, and now even Council has Mumei and Kronii on health breaks.

>>45466401
It's bloom 2.

>>45466289
Blue Jurney is holoEA.
Insyaallah!

>>45466633
Has never happened

>>45466289
BlueJourney is guras graduation concert. The footsteps are heading back to Atlantis.

>>45468751
ID and starsEN have less members and plenty of streams. How about you get your current holos to stop coasting

>>45467501
i want another EN cunny

>>45469379
fingers crossed

>>45468839
>half of myth
Anon I don't know where you get this from, unless it's extreme recency bias since the Japan arc. In 2021 and 2022 the top 5 ENs in hours and number of streams have included 3 myths and 2 council members. Kiara, Mori and Ame do plenty of streams and the data is literally there.

>>45468617
Wouldn't be a problem if they actually fucking streamed.

>>45468746
Rent free

>>45467501
i know like 10 streaming idols, that stream more than all of hololiveEN combined.
Sure a lot of them are japanese, but still.

>be holoen
>don't stream
>lose a majority of your viewers
>become 4-6k vtubers(besides queen gura)

>>45466289
COVER is specialist on being snake oil salesman that use vague grandiose terms to make things sound more of a big deal than they are and keep people talking.
See Hololive Error bullshit, Hololive Alternative bullshit and half-assed and paywalled Hololive Summer.

>>45468617
Out of all those girls i only watch kiara. I want new fucking girls

>>45467501
the whole idea of Hololive CITY and UNIVERSE seems can only worked if there's massive ensemble of girls, and they lost 4 members in these past 2 years

>>45468617
>JP has 35 members
>ID has a new gen set to debut later this year
>but EN is perfectly fine as it is
You people are genuinely retarded, doubly so if you watch any of the most recent members of JP and ID.

>>45469916
I got used to them not being around to watch so much that when they are I'm busy doing something else...

>>45466289
Going to Japan in August so hopefully I'll get to participate in holocity if it's up by then

>>45470653
Not enough EN fans, no growth, can't justify investment.

>>45469916
>don't stream
Irys has for the most part been streaming consistently compared to her other genmates and the rest of EN
>become 4-6k vtubers(besides queen gura)
Last stream 18 days ago. That wasn't even a normal stream that was her 3D one

>>45466289
You should know by now Cover excels at announcing announcements

>>45466401

>>45467501
half the EN cast refuse to stream

>>45467501
lighten the load on the existing talents
Myth has been active for over 2 years, and everytime they take a break there's people breathing down their neck and shitting their pants over lack of content
another Gen would provide more varied content, fresh interactions and if we're lucky even motivate the existing girls

also, we're not even close to saturation point, there's a huge talent pool out there and a lot of unclaimed audience (which is why so many indies are getting big lately)

>>45473039
And there's enough StarsEN fans for 8 members in 6 months, right? Also when HoloJP was around the same HoloEN is right now they had 28 members, not a single one had 1 million subs and I'm pretty sure even the more popular ones still struggled to get more than 10k viewers consistently, so it's not like Cover never invested in something that doesn't have enough fans.

>>45473348
See >>45469651

>>45466332
Now that the dust has settled, was OP wrong?

>>45466289
Blue Journey is a spwn stream and new merch, delivere spring of 2024 for only $300 shipping.

>>45468617
This is a very stupid take.
New talents means new audience. It also helps the current audience to consolidate:
- People who strongly support their oshi won't jump ship. They are unaffected by new faces.
- People with weak attachment might find someone to strongly support. Reducing the risks of stagnation and market size reduction
Only the competition fears any sign of acceleration from YAGOO.
If you think about benefits from new faces on a very superficial level, new gen is purely good news. As seen in JP and ID

>>45468617
I'm in EU timezone and NO FUCKING ONE streams in afternoon/evening.
Not even kiara really do it, at most we get those night watame/luna/kaela.

We need AT LEAST 10 more girls just for EU, and then some more talking french/spanish/italian/german.

Current HoloEN is not holoEN, is HoloUSA.

>>45478120
What do you need other than Watame, Luna, and Kaela... sounds OK to me.

>>45478120
damn right

>>45478120
pretty much
fucking unicorns are getting tiresome with their excuses about EN3

>>45478397
It's not the unicorns who are adamant against EN3, I guarantee you that.

>>45478353
oh yeah, a ending watame/kaela/luna grind at 9 pm every 3 days lol.

There are no excuses for not having at least 40 west girls, not if they are ok with the trash ID/homo numbers.

>>45478745
Homos hit their new character goal already. Tell Kronii to stream and do something funny and just get your EN3.

>>45467501
Only antis want EN3. With EN getting prepped for Fes, streaming was put on the wayside, so antis are using "EN3" as a chance to shit of the other EN girls. Plus the EN talent pool is dried up, so even if they do get people for EN3, they will likely be NijiEN rejects, so you know, shit quality talents.

>>45478120
Amen. EU has to eat shit for no reason. You see retard takes like "EU doesn't superchat why pander to them" as if anyone's watching streams at 4 am on a weekday and superchats don't mean shit in the first place. "Just watch holoJP" is equally stupid when JP is live during work hours, and you could've made the same argument for NA but no they can't speak JP either and they get pandered to anyway.

>>45478939
homos are a absolute waste of resources, any new girl, even with no talent at all, will not only make more money but also generate way less drama/conflict with the fans.

In the end vtubers are roleplay of anime characters, this works well with the "cute girls do cute things" but men can't roleplay the anime action dude archetype, they can only be fujo bait and that's a very niche market.

>>45479477
>men can't roleplay the anime action dude archetype, they can only be fujo bait and that's a very niche market.
Says who?

>>45479313
When almost the entire branch has to stay for months in a country where they don't have an established place to stream by themselves the lack of new blood become disgustingly apparent. This isn't a problem with HoloJP because they live in the country so when they're not rehearsing they can stream with any problems, meanwhile only a handful of EN members live or came prepared to stream during their stay in Japan and most of the other streams were collabs with the JP members. Also who the fuck will do the watchalong for the concert in July? ID and JP will have to wake up rather early for it and even if they do to watch there's no guarantee they'll stream it, so who's left? Fucking Tempus? Is that what you want?

>>45467501
you mean EN5

>>45480037
The bots found the thread.

>>45479581
Reality.

Popular anime dude characters are... goku, tell me how do you pull a goku roleplay by streaming mario kart or "talking" about random shit.

Those are the anime seasonal:
https://www.livechart.me/spring-2023/tv

Check slice of lifes, those are FULL FERMALE CAST or romance, always.

But but but "chomartie high school", yes , dudes can also do good comedy, but can you really do those characters as videogame streamers? Not really.

Did Cover ever say that auditions were open for regular hololive and not just stars? Like when is the last time they gave a notice that general auditions were open? I mean no matter how you feel about the shift to focus on stars, it is pretty crazy that there hasn't been another regular holoEN gen yet.

>>45479884
>Also who the fuck will do the watchalong for the concert in July?
Ollie will most likely, she has done watch alongs for every Holo concert she has been able to do

>>45479581
There just cant be good Male VTubers, I wish it could work but it doesn't, I'll never get to be one and the people that are will always just be a side act to the cgdct, might aswell just use a female model and dont even fake your voice so people dont think you're trying to be a tranny

>>45466289
Last time they had announcements like this, it turned out to be a shitty horror game.

>>45480296
The open auditions were for both Hololive and Holostars, but until last month they didn't push for the female side a single time during 2022 while they did it 3 times for the male side in less than a year.

>>45480311
Yeah, I mentioned ID, but there's her and... Not to mention she's not even EN, and having a new gen to watch their senpai's concert makes a lot of sense. It happened with Holox when they all watched last year's HoloFes, so it would be cool if by July we have EN3 to fulfill this role and not depend on the few IDs/JPs who are willing to wake up at 5-6AM or fucking Tempus.

>>45466289
It's like a TEASER or something

>>45468617
>Myth is totally burnt out
>still far less member than JP
>cant do big event or good collab with just 10 people
>>45473039
>debut Homotrash 2 instrad
>Debut ID3 makes holo boom in ID

>>45467501
There must always be 2 gens
One to have their FES debuts
Another to crave them.

So we're getting 5 new blue girls in a desperate attempt because blue girls always does well?

>>45482182
Wamy...

>>45478487
>It's not the unicorns who are adamant against EN3
How so?

>>45482260
You're the one who claimed that unicorns were against EN3 without evidence. If anything they'd want replacements to make up for losing Ame and Kronii

>>45482498
Sorry, I should have clarified. I'm not the Anon who you were responding to. I'm someone else who's just curious as to what you meant.

>>45467501
>Streaming company
>Half of EN doesn't stream
>EOPs get uppity over it
>Their only solution is to debut new generations to fill up any empty timeslots.
This board in particular says they love idol shit but none of these girls are actual idols so they have to actually practice the whole schtick. Along paperwork, recordings, recently the trips to Japan - basically all the work we don't see or that they can't really go into detail. Then some of them go full retard like gura who give absolutely no updates or reasons for the lack streams or long health breaks which they also can't go into detail. But instead of watching non EN vtubers within hololive (or watching non holo EN vtubers if they're that desperate) they just cry about it and beg for EN3

>>45478120
>I'm in EU timezone
Unironic skill issue. I have no problems watching or at least listening to several JP streams even during times when it's inconvenient for me. If I absolutely can't tune in to a particular streamer, i check to see who I CAN watch when I'm not busy/asleep if I'm that desperate to watch a fucking stream of all things. No one has to conform to your schedule/timezone eurocuck

>>45483310
You've completely missed the point. But okay, if you say so.

>>45466332
>later announcement is just "We'll announce what the announcement is even later"

>>45484675
>"We'll announce what the announcement is even later"
Ah yes. The Mori tactic.

well well well, is 8 pm, is EU PRIME TIME.

Who is streaming?

WATAME in her 5h minecraft run.
But there's MORE, we have KAELA... in a membership stream, meh.

But today is still a special day, next stream is... MUMEI, in a EARLY stream at 1 am.

>>45468617
There's some truth to this, but most people get oshis by following them, since debut. There's probably a lot of new fans who don't have an oshi for this reason.

>>45469379
It would make more sense if the EN connect concert had the graduations. It's most likely like Bloom2 which is just a concert where everyone sings their holo original songs.

>>45472708
Nice! Japan is fantastic in August-September

>>45489778
NOOOO! You don't understand, you should stay awake until 3am and send lots of superchats... W-What do you mean you won't do that?... The time is extremely inconvenient for you and you have work the following morning? The absolute state. See this is why eurofags are ignored! Because they never show up to watch or send money!

>>45489778
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZwBmLn3iKo

>>45478120
If there is an EN3 I can guarantee that at least two of them will be from the EU, except one of them is living in Japan atm. I think it's pretty clear that Cover wants to focus the EN branch around one city which is probably LA. So girls who are in that timezone or live in that area have an advantage.

>>45490835
Not even 20.30 and watame stopped.

>>45491068
As a italian, i have to follow panko.
Dio la benedica.

It’s gonna be NFT and metaverse shit, isn’t it…

>>45491218
>I think it's pretty clear that Cover wants to focus the EN branch around one city which is probably LA
Well they've not done a good job of that so far. As EN is currently split across 5 different countries.
Even as a european I think any further EU members is a lost cause.

>>45491315
Bless!

>>45468697
Exactly. They'll be genuinely happy for a week, then use the new girls to shit on the old girls, then use the old girls to shit on the new girls when they inevitably don't get the same numbers as debut Myth.

>>45470653
ID gens are THREE people, dumbass. Three gens of ID is just barely more than two of EN.

>>45476392
>New talents means new audience.
Absolutely false, especially for EN. At best you have a boom of people checking them out for the first week or two. When those people leave, you're just shifting around the same group of people.

And kaela also stopped.
Is 20.45, no streams for the next 4 hours.

Welcome in the hololive EU timezone average day.

Man, these nijis really don't want HoloEN to expand.

>>45468617
>people are allowed to only watch one streamer
holy fuck, is the average holobro this dumb?

>>45473628
We’re supposed to ignore that argument for the faggots. Remember, the bar for success in Holostars is being a 3 view, because if we held them to the same standards then they’d just be shit. Oh…

>>45480347
Imagine watching a male vtuber over one of the 100’s of male fleshtubers you probably already watched. Lol. Lmao even. Male vtuber fans are fags and women, not like that is a bad thing though.

>>45482893
I watch other vtubers, indies, and corpos, and I STILL post about wanting EN3. They wasted a whole year on 8 faggots so idgaf about the “no growth. Need 1mil subs, you should already have an oshi anyway,” shit or whatever else gets spewed. People like new things and in this case the new things would be new people to see the people you already like interact with them as well as find new people in general to like. Anyone actually “confused” as to why fans would want a new gen are being disingenuous or they are retarded.

so what is it

>>45466289
Cover not very good at marketing

>>45468617
Yeah I can't believe these fags want them to be like niji and dump a bunch of new streamers on us

>>45466289
>holoearth
>alternative
>now this, inb4 absolutely nothing
why can't cover do anything properly

>>45498335
>Cover not very good at marketing
>Everyone everywhere is talking about it
Try again niji

>>45499002
Everyone will forget about it by April, there's not enough information to get excited about.

>>45499002
>everyone
what the hell are you on

>>45482260
Exactly as >>45482498 said. Unicorns want another chance of a member who panders directly to them, bonus points if she's similar to an already existing JP member like a Marine or a Lamy for example.

>>45492105
ID had auditions last month, you daft cunt. Unlike the lazy approach with the open auditions where Cover can act like they're giving a fuck about female candidates while only hiring a bunch of unfunny homos ID had the old auditions period approach, so it's pretty much confirmed their 4th gen will debut later this year since it generally take around 7 months for them to debut, so expect it to happen around October.

>>45498619
It's been 19 fucking months since Council debuted and you faggots are still on the retarded ACCELERATE argument? Stop being pushing this false dichotomy that's either muh "quality over quantity" while waiting for an eternity before debuting a new gen or "spam dozens of new streamers in a year" like a fucking retard, there's definitely a balance between those two options and Cover is nowhere near it with HoloEN.

>>45467501
more girls = more chances one of them actually streams

>>45503050
What if there isn’t enough (or any) decent female EN chuuba anymore? I’d rather stick with my Faufau than getting 5 male collaber, Twitch-streamer-esque Holos

>>45504469
Because Sana was a great pick, right? This argument makes zero sense because you're only looking at the streamer/vtuber scene when Myth had 1 actual streamer and the rest were all content creators who at most streamed a couple of times before their debut, not to mention Cover probably received tens of thousands of auditions which makes it even more unlikely that every single one of them is like you described.

>>45468617
Those 10 might not fit everyone to a T, so some people just go for the closest fit

>>45504469
Well Zaio... just kidding.