/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Yeah.

Oh no! How will Hololive compete with Nijisanji who is gargling tiny ching chong balls? Guess it's over. The bugs win.

>>4498487

>implying shitty games made by shitty bugmen matter

>>4498487
>literal bug games
nice

>>4498487
Muh permissions. All these buffs for Nijis, still ain't saving them from the inevitable fade away to irrelevancy kek

From here on out, every new Gen of Holo will be a reminder of who'se absolute.

>>4498487
>imagine enjoying watching people play games made by bugs designed to scam people prone to addiction and with no impulse control from all their money

>Hololive can't compete with Nijisanji now

Ya'll also said NijiEN would completely BTFO HoloEN , we're still waiting

>>4499753
NijiEN 2nd Wave will absolutely mog Wave 1 and compete with HoloEN, especially if its got males. Wave 1 was just them testing the waters with their worst talents

yeah and not gonna change anything

>>4498487
>>4498577
>>4498596
>>4498609
>>4498693
>>4498996
>>4499044
>>4499753
>>4499843
who asked

A lot of people unable to resist the bait today huh?

>>4499753
I still find niji en to be more fun to watch than holoen

>>4498487
niji livers are shit. no matter what games they play, it won't change the fact that they are not as entertaining as hololive livers

>>4498487

>>4499843
not the worst talents but they literally picked the safest girl for wave 1
>3 asian and hafu girls who speak japanese and are huge weebs with encyclopedic knowledge of anime culture
yeah really taking a risk on that one

Yea they suck, I hope they all graduate, especially the stupid fish.

>>4500021
>livers
NijiENMachama...

>>4498487
Say that again when zhangs stop wishing Aqua return to bili

>>4498487
Niji x Genshin collab when?

>>4499753
>Ya'll
I always knew sheepniggers were redditors

>>4500495
>I always knew holobronies were redditors
Ftfy

>>4500118
That is exactly the content I look for in a vtuber. Fuck normies who have 0 weeb powerlevel and just become vtubers because it's the popular thing.

BETTER CONNECTION

>>4500722
>I want the tubers to appeal to literally the exact same audience as the last 100 tubers and never attempt to expand the market
el mao

>>4503231
>I want the tubers to appeal to literally the exact same audience as the last 100 tubers
Ok. Name 5.

I'm still of the belief that NijiEN is being actively shilled on this board. Either it's being organized by schizos on discord or AnyColor is actually paying them to shill. There is way too much NijiEN activity on this board for vtubers that draw as little viewers as they do.

>>4503527
Not everyone are tribal nigger like you, holobronies.

>>4503371
the weeb audience? are you retarded? The entirety of Hololive, HoloEN, Tsunderia, and VShojo are full of weeb girls who are autistically knowledgeable about japanese culture and speak various levels of japanese

that market is so saturated it's not even funny

>>4503606
You mean ironic weeb who only watch entry level anime? Hell, even some of them never watch anime and only parroting meme from fecesbook, leddit or twatter.

>>4503605
Sorry, not buying it. With the NijiEN activity on this board you would think they are drawing Gura levels of viewership when they are actually only drawing Anya/Iofi levels of viewership.

>>4503527
Holobrony-san...

fuck china

>>4503746
Take your med schizo. There is only 1 thread about NijiEn in /vt/. This thread is just to bait dumb tribalist like you.

>>4499951
all me

>>4503527
Jesus, anon. You don't have to go through this many brain gymnastics to say that you want more Kiara anti threads on the front page.

>>4503921
Is the thread full of tribalfags?

>>4498487
I wish all entertainment companies do what Cover did and outright tell China to fuck off. It's kinda sad that a vtuber company is one of the most moral in that regard. Anime girls beating out big burly athletes.

>>4499843
Wave 3 will DESTROY wave 2 and finally be close to HoloEN, I can assure you that!

>>4498487
You mean Niji is willing to bend the knee to the CCP and as a result is rewarded by Daddy Xi for their fealty by being able to play their games.

>>4505355
of course it is. same old dumb pissing contests but for some reason they wanna also gargle the piss after

>>4505355
No. They have one numberfag pretending to be concernfag. And comfybro or relaxbro who basically said there is no need to chase Hololive number and just let the girl stream on their own pace, who make up the majority of the thread. Also tribalist will get kicked out immediately whether he is a Niji or Holo. Also there is NijiAnti among them.

>>4498487
What is Nijisanji?

>>4505568
Nice try Aloecuck.

>>4499753
>Big Plans

>>4505558
They also don't have an army of nijiniggers reporting literally everything, meaning they don't have to toe lines, and can just do whatever the fuck they want. Capcom says you can't stream a game in english? Niji doesn't give a shit and does it anyway. Nintendo never shuts up about how emulation is evil? Niji doesn't give a shit, streams emulated DS games anyway. Permissions? Who cares, stream and monetize it anyway.

>>4498487
OP I honestly cannot understand why you're trying to draw attention to the fact that Nijisanji doesn't have the balls to tell China to fuck off. Is this some kind of lowkey 'we want the Zhang audience' dog whistle or is there some kind of other motive I don't understand because bragging 'NijiEN can play Genshin and Muse Dash because they don't care about vtubers being harassed by the Chinese for daring to read the word 'Taiwan' off of Google's algorithm chart' isn't exactly a good look.

>>4505687
Aloe is good for your skin. Nice try wrinkletits

>>4505779
Butthurt Ichikara is more powerful than your little black company? Maybe you know, tell your black company to get better permission management? I guess they are busy sexual harassing their talent, restrict their talents creativity or being incompetent than managing anything.

>>4506113
Incompetent management doesn't make it a black company, you tribalist retard.

>>4505779
>streams emulated DS games anyway
Lmao are you still on this shit after you got BTFO by other anons in previous threads?

>>4505856
Some people enjoy seeing tribals fight from the sidelines, and people always bite the bait. As Holo makes up 90% of the board, it's easier to hook people in.

>>4506157
A streaming company that required you to stream 5-6 days a week for 5+ hours, took 50% of your earnings, sexual harrass your and gave you no support while putting a bunch of restrictions on you is the very definition of black company.
A company that just puts you under their brand and then doesn't give a fuck what you do with your time is not.

>>4506113
Keep seething, retard. NijiEN needs these games to stay relevant while HoloEN boomed in Popularity without it

>>4498487
Money talks. While I support the pulling out of China, it's a dent on their cash flow and it explains the recline for Hololive.

holofags will never learn that nijifags aren't the ones debating numbers

>>4506113
How's Roa by the way? And I'm sure Shiba and Gibara will be back any day now... For the mean time you should enjoy your upcoming APEX tournament that's totally composed of only Nijisanji vtubers and will totally NOT get outviewed by an alcoholic shark that's showing off her completely new and not bugged outfit.

>>4506294
>recline for Hololive
??? Hololive is more popular than ever. They might have taken a small hit when Chinese game companies pulled permissions, but they recovered insanely quickly.

>>4505355
Anyone who complains about muh tribalism is butthurt Holoshitter perpetually coping his brand will never be the top. Even Maha5 in Indonesia is more relevant.

>>4506254
>A company that just puts you under their brand and then doesn't give a fuck what you do with your time is not.

Anon, I thought you were talking about cover? Why are you describing Nijisanji then?

>>4506254
Anonchama, your meds. Those rrats aren't true. If it were, most holomembers would've left already starting from fubuki and Hololive kept standing even after 3 years. Clearly, the benefits greatly outweighs the advantages.

>>4506442
t. Holoshitter

>>4506418
>he doesn't know
oh no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no
https://note.com/anrimayura/n/nc41780381f1f

>>4506254
The irony. Nijifags really are mentally incapacitated.

>>4506456
Disadvantages*

>>4506465
>implying I would ever be Holobrony
kek
>>4506456
Explain the recent graduation then, Holobrony. You know, the one

>>4506475
> タイトルでもはや全てを現しているが、Hololiveは既に衰退から終焉に向かっている
This is literally just a Japanese doomposter, why should anything he says be taken seriously

>>4500000

>>4506475
Nice schizo anti rant you linked there.

Holobronies have no horse in this race after 2 of their more popular talent (Dog and Onion) have graduated in past 2 week

>>4506505
>>implying I would ever be Holobrony
Go ahead and post your memberships or even your YouTube viewing history to prove me wrong. I'll be waiting, Holobrony.

Was genshin impact or muse dash ever good for streaming? Like, I'd expect them getting 8-10k views, but 2k views. Really? Are nijifags this delusional?

>>4506254
>took 50% of your earnings
Without hololive, none of these girls would be making even 5% of what they do now

>>4506517
>>4506546
And yet he's a famous 5ch poster and knows more about it than your EOP ass ever will, Holobronies

>>4506549
>graduated
Break from streaming =/= graduation

>>4506580
>And yet he's a famous 5ch poster
PFFFT AHAHAHAHAHAHA
Oh EXCUSE me, I didn't know he was a famous 5CH poster, GOD forbid I not take him seriously

>>4506254
>sexual harrass
Since when has Cover EVER done that, you fucking schizo.

>>4506580
14 followers and banned from Twitter
Lmao

>>4506580
ITT: Schizos who drank too much piss and got cranky

>>4506579
No anon, they're all rich and talented enough to make more money as indies.

>>4498487
Ok.
Call me when any of the over 150 Nijisanji vchuuba will get entertaining lol.
Games mean shit, what matters is chuuba's personality.

>>4498487
but will they acknowledge t a i w a n is a country?

Why do you refuse to ignore bait thread ?

Damn, Nijikeks are way too obvious with their bait.

>>4506734
People love to shit on Nijiniggers, so when Nijiniggers mind their own business and stay in their threads they need to LARP as them to justify their vindication for them.

>>4506254
The funny thing is, all of these are/were factually correct, but no one ever bothered to explain to newer/EN viewers so now all we have is "rrats". I guess it sort of depends what your definition of sexual harassment is too.

>>4506331
>How's Roa by the way
She is still a fucking kid who got bullied by menhera gold fish fan. Also she might be busy with her school.
>Shiba
She was never stream often to begin with. I feel bad for her but there is nothing Ichikara can do. Maybe they already setup a private donation. Who know.
>Gibara
Tired of Vtuber and she probably become a voice actress thanks to connection she made in Nijisanji . I wish her all the best.

>>4506796
Oh whoops, the 5+ hours one obviously isn't.

>>4506505
Try harder, anonchama. Graduations happen and they left on good terms due to circumstances. It doesn't mean Cover being a literal black company.

>>4506734
it fun.

>>4506331
>alcoholic shark

>>4506625
Are you a fucking newfag who doesn't know about Mel being harassed and stalked by her own manager and Cover trying to cover it before Mel came out in public and threaten to sue Cover?

>>4506970
The best part was that Cover deleted their own apology after they got backlash for it lol. They give no fucks about what happened to Mel. Guy still most likely works for them.

>>4506970
Did your shitty company let in a literal rapist who bragged about wanting to date rape your Niji's? Didn't your company throw one of your talents to the curb even as she was begging for money to pay for her medical expenses? Didn't your company did nothing while some dramafag slandered and harassed one of your talent to near suicide? Didn't your company stand by and didn't do shit even as two of your members fought behind the scene due to some bullshit about a verbal tic, allow one of them to be bullied to retirement and then proceeded to damage control only after everything was already in flames?
Didn't one of your member get in a police chase due to retardation because she was streaming while riding a bike to mcdonald?

>>4507131
Rent free. You're as moronic as >>4507058 >>4506970 instead of just explaining what happened.

>Didn't one of your member get in a police chase due to retardation because she was streaming while riding a bike to mcdonald?
This is true though.

>>4507131
>your company
>my company
i see we've stopped pretending that we're not soulless brand loyalist consoomers

>>4507131
>Did your shitty company let in a literal rapist who bragged about wanting to date rape your Niji's
They actually fired the potential rapist as soon as they found out, which is more than you can say for Mel's manager. The rest of your post is just ESL babble based on shit you read on /vt/.

>>4503717
Ichikara...stop

>One eye dragon is a Shonen Jump fag
>Fairy is the actual weeb one...and least subbed as well
>Mermaid is an ironic zoomer weeb

Your roster for EN isn't really that weebified to begin with.
Also, after Pomu shat on Zelda, do not let your girls play Nier, EVER. Otherwise it will end like Ame's yesterday Nier's stream.

>>4507131
>Didn't one of your member get in a police chase due to retardation because she was streaming while riding a bike to mcdonald?
Everything else was stupid of them but this last one is pretty based though, got a clip or stream of it?

>>4507131
>Did your shitty company let in a literal rapist who bragged about wanting to date rape your Niji's?
And he got kicked out before he even debut because genius posted his masterplan in his own real twitter.
>Didn't your company throw one of your talents to the curb even as she was begging for money to pay for her medical expenses?
How do you know Ichikara didn't try to help her? Beside she never stream regularly to begin with and was never popular. What the fuck Ichikara can do? Didn't she tried to collab with Miko recently but Miko ghosted her?
>Didn't your company did nothing while some dramafag slandered and harassed one of your talent to near suicide?
Who and when did this happened? What is the name of the vtuber and source?
>Didn't your company stand by and didn't do shit even as two of your members fought behind the scene due to some bullshit about a verbal tic, allow one of them to be bullied to retirement and then proceeded to damage control only after everything was already in flames?
Menhera gold fish tried to quit 3 times. But Ichikara is too lenient too her. Beside if you already know about Meiro's past life aka Lamp Meiji, she have past experiences of playing victim and picked a fight with Canan.
>Didn't one of your member get in a police chase due to retardation because she was streaming while riding a bike to mcdonald?
Whoa. Don't touch our based Stray Cat.

>>4507230
They fired him immediately too. Only the rrats here are pretending that they let him stay.

>>4507230
Just shut the fuck up if you have no idea what really happened with Mel, and still have the audacity to lecture someone else, fucking retards.

>>4507582
There's a reason you aren't providing any any actual counterarguments or proof supporting those counterarguments and that's because you know damn well what happened doesn't make Cover look good at all. Please, feel free to provide proof that they fired Mel's stalker. I know Cover sure didn't provide any.

Nijifags suddenly love Chinks and drinking bat soup when they allow their chuubas to play their games.

>>4507639
Please post proof they fired your rapist talent instead of keeping him around as a staff member.

>>4507639
How much proof do you need? I'd say that the fact that Mel didn't quit and is still streaming happily is proof enough.

>>4507733
https://kai-you.net/article/62806
There, that was easy.
>>4507758
>How much proof do you need
Any at all. No, Mel being happy is not indication that he wasn't still kept by Cover as staff, simply that he was kept away from Mel.

>>4506819
Nice management you got there. Its one thing to get bullied by internet trolls, but if your own management can't even protect you from your own coworkers then I guess the only color "AnyColor" knows is black.

>>4507824
>https://kai-you.net/article/62806
Yeah only as a talent. How do you know they didn't keep him around as a staff member?

>>4507639
The girls said they got new managers for a while. And also a lot of them ask live to not shit on the managers.
https://youtu.be/4pO3Mn7Ciig
https://youtu.be/9_Mh7xVKlyw

>>4507824
It's not an indication the rapist wasn't still kept by Any Color as staff, simply that he was kept away from the livers.

>>4507710
Oh yeah lets forget about all the Chinese pandering, Azure Lane collab, Muse Dash collab, majority of Hololives vtubers who have Bilibili account and stream with it very often and Nene who is basically token Chinese. Because Nijisanji is too strong in Japan so they are forced to pander to Chink and suck their tiny dick.

>>4507832
>protect you from your own coworkers
Meiro was fired you dumbfuck.

>>4507836
>How do you know they didn't keep him around as a staff member
Because he did not apply to a staff's position like Mel's manager and he was a part timer with no capabilities nor seniority in the company. Japanese companies reward long time service first and foremost, and Nijisanji is especially evident of this, giving 3.0 Live2D models to their initial JK group first for example.

>>4507710
I wonder why Nijisanji hasn't had a big collab on the scale of the Hololive/Azur Lane one. They would get some nice benefits and exposure if they had a collab like that with Genshin Impact or Uma Musume.

>>4507869
What does that have to do with what's happening now?

>>4498487
>cant even show the numbers
kek

>>4499843
lol, keep dreaming fag.
As much as I would like to see that, it's too late for Nijisanji English, it'll take a miracle for them to make a comeback and actually compete with HoloEN.

>>4507857
He wasn't staff in the first place, so he certainly wasn't "kept" as one.

>>4507904
>Proof
>Inserts own assumptions
Cope.

>>4507948
Facts are not assumptions, sorry. I suppose you don't know how Japanese companies operate or how Nijisanji rewards their long time talents but it does not make it any less of a reality.

>>4507857
Now that is stretching. How many yen did Cover paid you shill? I know Cover had history of paying shill to run a smear campaign on rival companies and it was proven before in the past.

>>4498487
This shitty bait actually worked like a charm. Congrats anon.

>>4507972
>I know everything about how japanese companies work
>I know how nijisanji works 100%
Do you work at nijisanji? YWNBJ

>>4506331
anon, you should really prepare for niji to take back the title with this stream. The normie apex community is going to be watching because they pulled in actual commentators and pros from detonator. Frankly if it doesn't hit 200,000 viewers it will be a failure of the event itself, because there are big names there for the japanese community. Not to mention its during lockdowns and quarantines. I'm gonna avoid the number threads myself come the 12th, its gonna be a shitshow, even when Hololive mogs niji most days. One can't doubt their corporate connections though, hololive has always been the underdog and its a miracle they mog niji as often as they do.

>>4507974
A good amount. I don't even have to really do anything since Nijisanji regularly shit themselves on a daily basis. It's a pretty comfy job.

>>4498487
> All chink shit
Oh no

>>4507869
And when the chinks made them choose between them and one of their talents, they chose the orange dragon instead. Even went as far as shutting the traitorous branch that sided with the bugs. Bet you that if someone like Kuzuha ever made the bugs seethe enough that they force Nijisanji to choose , Riku would personally go there and suck Winnie the Pooh's cock while sending Tokyo ghoul packing. Not like they care about their chuubas anyway. They can just debut another batch, right?

>>4507978
It always works when you add in the special mix of chinese and corporate tribalism

>>4507978
And yet Nijisanji proved again they have less demons.

>>4508010
Who are you quoting?

>>4507906
Azur Lane isn't a very big game. It just has a larger presence in the West vs overall because of how f2p friendly it is, and CN because it originated there. They also got the collab fairly early on. Genshin and Uma Musume are on completely different levels. Azur did $170m in it's first year and a half. Genshin did $1b in 6 months, and Uma Musume is about to clear >$400m is just 3/4 months, disregarding how the latter is a multimedia franchise with specific characters already.

I'm not sure what game that's currently popular over here would even be available for a collab. They might have to go for Epic Seven, Dragalia, or Azur again.

>>4507909
Trying to rewrite history, huh. Cover was born and groomed by chink. Chink was the reason why Cover explode to popularity. The success Cover enjoying now because of the billion of chink clippers.

>>4508074
Quoting the facts, no assumptions made at all.

>>4507869
It's true. Hololive will never recover from this. Nijisanji got rid of the affiliation of all of their Virtual Livers. Hololive still has Bilibili streams from time to time.

>>4506254
meds
>>4506796
meds, 3/5 of the accusations are outright false, and the sexual harassment 1 is false in that action was taken against the offender. The person involved stayed with the company too, so only retards still use it as an attack against current company treatment when the person involved stayed. Course its all bait, and that deserves some meds, as pictured.

>>4508081
Indeed. There's a reason why they've been steadily to drastically reclining since then.

>>4508010
You always be a schizo.

>>4508060
Nah, I doubt they will let go of Tokyo Ghoul. He's their only money maker. If it was any of the hundreds of literal whose they'd probably publically execute them to to appease the bugs.
If Tokyo Ghoul did fuck up that bad, they probably just make him suck Winnie's dick for months as hard as possible. If still it doesn't work, then yeah they will probably kick his ass out.

>>4508089
But you aren't supposed to use greentext to quote facts nor assumptions, simply words that have already been typed out by another anon.

>>4508092
Lmao nijisanji just really threw their own talents out the window so when a yab does happen they can just ignore them. Black company.

>>4508106
>The person involved stayed with the company too
Not the best look for Cover, eh? That's all we need to know about them.

>>4507972
where is the proof for this? it is assumption unless you give me an actual proof, retard

>>4508132
Actually there are reasons whereas Hololive is literally holding Mel prisoner from speaking out after being sexually harassed. Not to mention they covered up firing Aloe.

>>4508081
It's always funny how holodrones keep boasting about "not bending the knee to China" when Hololive spent first 2 years of its lifetime on chink life support.

>>4508018
Yeah that event will probably beat gura but it also has several vtubers that are not from nijisanji, hell even towa is in there and this still count? So if gura collab with mr beast or some shit like that, you won’t bitch about how she is leeching to get the number?

Why do nijifags even come to this shitty board dominated by western vtubing instead of just going back to jp

>>4508193
We're the silent majority and always have been, Holofag

Ok. I know this thread is bait but I'm kinda curious what the peak viewership was for those streams. I know Genshin is a buff game if it involves doing pulls and the NijiEn dragon tends to average 2k.

>>4508143
https://youtu.be/ripiJ0p4Xv8
Here is Mito's 3.0 reveal. You can check by the dates to confirm that her and the other JKs were the first to receive it. She's very cute, so make sure to check out the entire video to confirm your suspicions as well.

>>4508081
That's history, just like hololive used to collab a lot with Nijisanji in 2019. hololive's current popularity is due to a combination of the English/overseas market and JP otaku (mostly the hardcore type who tends to love GFE and fake yuri), which is why hololive gets so much more good art than Nijisanji. The Chinese helped them get to where they are now, but they don't need them anymore. Hololive can survive and do well without them.

>>4508182
Gura can't even get more viewers than Pomu these days. She has terribly reclined.

>>4508222
6k

>>4508229
Proof?

>>4508225
History is still history though. Also explain the steady to drastic recline from January onwards.

>>4508223
They should hurry up and get 3.0 for everyone else. It's a sin that so many Niji livers are still stuck with stiff Live2D models that cannot properly look up or down or to the sides. 3.0 should be a fucking requirement, not a seniority gift.

>>4498487
Well, I hope it's worth it submitting to their bugman overlords.

>>4508261
Really going to ignore that niji has a bigger recline every month?

>>4508300
Do you understand how Japanese companies work? Seniors are given the most value and that will always be the case. Show respect or shut up.

>>4500495
Dixies, Cajuns and Texans speak like that too, anon.

>>4505437
I always wonder just how valuable Coco is to hololive that she was worth all the bugmen's money.

>>4508261
>Also explain the steady to drastic recline from January onwards.
That's just the vtuber boom ending and audiences getting over the honeymoon phase and moving on. Nijisanji is getting the same level of recline as Hololive. Vtubers will still be popular, they just won't have the same insane presence that they used to.

>>4508255
Up his ass.

>>4508300
Considering how many Nijis came into existence before such high quality Live2Ds became the norm making it a special event to reward the talents is what makes the most sense at this point.

>>4508330
NijiEN is drastically inclining. Large scale events still get 200-300K

>>4508408
Proof?

>>4508253
Huh... That's a bit lower than I expected. Has any of the EN's crossed 5 digit viewerships outside of their debuts? Haven't really been keeping up with them and only peek at the designated numberfag thread occasionally.

>>4508225
>which is why hololive gets so much more good art than Nijisanji
they do get good art, you just don't see them reposted on danbooru because they're not as popular in the west. i always have to skim through pixiv or their twitter art tags

>>4508138
t.retard

>>4508358
Nijisanji is a foothold in Japan, Hololive is the real bubble that burst.
>>4508354
Money talks. The price they paid was a costly one that led to stagnation and then a steady to sharp recline continuing to nosedive.

>>4508424
Up his ass.

>>4508439
They kept the person sexually harassing Mel. How the fuck is that a good look for Cover?

>>4508193
I only really browse the Niji generals, and the audition/new vtuber thread. It's in addition to the /jp/ thread since it seems like some people there did move over to this board.

Also it's just inevitable when you name the board /vt/ instead of /holo/. If you made a tribal thread shitting in indies, animare, vspo or something, there wouldn't be enough people to bait/defend them. Niji just has enough people that would eventually browse the catalog too.

>>4508222
2.3K in the latest Genshin stream
https://vnuma.net/video-info/b48KX_Dg0vI

https://vnuma.net/streamer/monthly-history/778bf663542644ea9bfa024cd52f5fa1/2021-06
https://vnuma.net/streamer/monthly-history/778bf663542644ea9bfa024cd52f5fa1/2021-05

NijiEN is too late to the market.

>>4508427
>Has any of the EN's crossed 5 digit viewerships outside of their debuts
Nope, which is why anybody you see making bait threads such as this that claim Nijisanji will kill Hololive are just baiting Holofags that don't watch Nijisanji.

>>4507974
>I know Cover had history of paying
Anonchama....
Let's not forget that it was nijisanji who asked a reaction youtuber to react to their official subbed clips.

>>4508470
That's more than a third of the Holos on a regular basis in 2021.

>>4508464
They kept them according to your headcanon for wanting holo to be blacker than niji

>>4508438
But HoloEN happened after the red yab. How do you explain HoloEN's success?

>>4508018
When is this tournament suppose to happen anyway? Might need to take a day off work for maximum shitposting. Regardless of the outcome it's going to be glorious.

>>4508477
Why are you making shit up?

>>4508477
Please, point to where any of those videos state that they're paid promotions.

>>4508427
They have not.

>>4508436
To add to this, you should be using https://azure-gallery.net/ instead.

>>4508496
Proof?

>>4508464
>They kept the person sexually harassing Mel.
This is as true as the narrative that Roa was a bully, in other words complete bullshit that people only believe in because it's convenient for their anti narrative.

>>4508513
>headcanon
You just admitted they kept the guy >>4508106

>>4508464
blablabla retarded nijinigger doing their usual mental gymnastic and coping

>>4508531
>>4508534
You guys are getting too defensive, maybe because of Sheep's face. He said asked, not paid. The youtubers themselves have stated they were asked. There's none that have a paid promotion tag on their videos.

>>4508545
He's including Holostars. Stop getting baited.

>>4508565
One of your very own people admitted they kept the guy >>4508106

>>4508570
But how come one of the Holofags admitted they kept Mel's sexual harasser? >>4508106

>>4508585
>He's including Holostars. Stop getting baited.
I know anon but you are breaking the chain, you were supposed to response with “up his ass”.

>>4508567
where's the proof that they kept him? you fucking autist

>>4508585
What was the point in bringing up Cover's "history of paying" and then attempting to use Nijisanji's asking of YouTubers to react to their content as a gotcha in response to that, then?

>>4508637
>he person involved stayed with the company too, so only retards still use it as an attack against current company treatment when the person involved stayed.
There, you need to read it again?

>>4508138
>reading comprehension

>>4508531
https://youtu.be/O5_yLcTqa9Y
>>4508534
>>4508585
If nijisanji bother to asked a literal ironic weeb reaction youtuber to react on their own subbed clips, what stop them on paying someone to protect their brand?

>>4508182
But the event is organized by Niji, whether it has participating holos isn't the point, its the niji corporation that got it all together, and iirc most of those playing are niji too.

As for the numbers not being 'niji's numbers', thats cope. We're talking about numberfagging, how the number gets there doesn't matter, only that the number exists. If they get a bigger number, that number is fair play for numberfagging, and any excuses to not use it will be labeled as cope. Not like the numbers you see on niji events or holo costume reveals matter day to day anyways. When it comes to day to day viewers, Hololive mostly mogs Niji.

>>4508206
meds

I would much rather see them play emulated retro games than new age rip off shlock

>>4508593
>your very own people
I'm only arguing in favor of the truth. If you say bullshit, I'm gonna call you out, no matter what company you're trying to slander. And that guy is obviously bullshitting.

>>4508658
>Random ass anon statement is now consider proof.
The fuck, so you believe all the bs that is said in this thread like gura having less number than pomu?

>>4508593
>>4508619
Yeah where is his proof then? Imagine believing a falseflag that just said meds and then just said random shit.

>>4508669
You just said they kept the guy who committed sexual harassment though.

Seethe all you want nijiniggers. You know what's coming. I can't really wait for the day when Hololive becomes the number one vtuber group in Japan. It's inevitable and we'll have the last laugh

>>4508706
If he admitted they kept the sexual harasser that's all we need to know.

Hi Nijifag here, they did in fact keep that rapist talent and he is raping all the girls behind your backs. I'm a nijifag so you can trust me when I talk shit about my own company.

>>4508541
>you should be using https://azure-gallery.net/ instead
Holy shit this site is really good.
Best spoonfeed I've received all year, thanks anon.

>>4508736
Not happening. Look at Google Trends. Not even the concerts put them above Nijisanji.

>>4508720
Jesas...
Calm down.
Read the post slowly.
>the person involved stayed
Refer to Mel.

>>4508676
>what stop them on paying someone to protect their brand
I don't know anon, how many pro-Niji threads do you see a day on this board contrary to obvious bait threads such as this one? Meanwhile >we actually know Cover staff lurks here, what with the "HoloEN is a myth" thing back in the /jp/ days.

>>4508567
that aint me moron, and I was obviously talking about Mel staying. Jesus, your English and contextual reps seanig.

>>4508658
Jesus fuckin Christ you obtuse moron, "the person involved" they were referring to was Mel, not the stalker/manager. Learn to use context to figure things out.

>>4508787
So Mel is a guy?

>>4508768
People have to google to find about about their concerts when Holo has enough people that just know them and go to the website directly.

>>4508792
Imagine believing that rrat.

>>4508827
Now this is coping.

>>4508720
I'm not that anon (>>4508106). The post requires implicit understanding of who was it that stayed. Normally, it would read like this:
>The harasser was fired, Mel stayed because she didn't feel dissatisfied with the way she was treated. Only retards still use it as an attack against the company's current treatment of employees when the person involved (Mel) stayed.

>>4508526
June 12th in Japan. dont know the exact time, I dont watch apex, and I aint about to start. I'm sure it'll be obvious though.

>>4508792
I don't know that too, anon.
But where this "cover have history of payin people" come from?
Oh right. A nijinigger got mad and say that cover paid anon to defend hololive on a cambodian bamboo basket weaving forum.

>>4508850
It's okay, you can just say you weren't around during those days. "Rrat" wasn't even in the vernacular back then. There's also Risu who's openly admitted to using this board on several occasions. Much more points to Holo staff browsing 4chan than Niji staff.

>>4508768
keep coping, nijinigger. your days are fucking numbered.

>>4508892
Shut the fuck up. Rrat originated there way before this board.

>>4508822
Read nigga read>>4508106
Did you see 'guy' on that post

>>4508881
>But where this "cover have history of payin people" come from
Let me break this down for you. Cover staff has posted on 4chan before, once explicitly in a promotional sense. Cover pays their staff (or at least you should hope so for their image). Therefore, Cover has a history of paying people to shill for them on this website.

>>4508827
Indeed.

>>4508792
>headcanon
>headcanon
>headcanon
stop being delusional start providing proof to your statement, retard.

>>4508929
Ogey

>>4508881
Their staff literally shills themselves here and if they do, they know they're losing or desperate for EOPs because they've been reclining since January.

>>4508929
Proof they posted here before? You can't except for rrats. Just because some retard said HoloEN is a myth doesn't mean shit. /jp/ has been saying holoEN is a lie/fantasy for sometime already so myth is just another word.

>>4508923
>Rrat originated there way before this board
You really are new, aren't you? I'll spoonfeed you so listen up. Before HoloEN was announced only /hlg/ existed. In /hlg/, there was an anon (Cover staff) that would repeatedly post "HoloEN is a myth" in response to speculation about when it would arrive. Only when HoloEN was actually announced did a thread split happen, and it was /hlgg/ that developed "rrat" from "narrative". Hence why anybody who uses the term in /hlg/ is deemed a Globalfag and told to fuck off.

>>4508929

>>4508974
Niji has been reclining harder every month. cope harder.

>>4508948
>>4508953
How new?

>>4508881
It came from a journalist from p2y getting fired for being too biased towards Holo. Specifically, he would basically write "articles" on every sub milestone from a Holo comparing them to other vtubers, so people joked about him being paid by Cover.

Also if you're the same person as >>4508676
then you're a moron too. If not you're slightly less stupid than he is.

>>4509028
EN and many of the Apex-friendly talents are reclining. It's the ones who aren't that are not.

>>4508999
Ogey

>>4509063
>reclining
Inclining******************

>>4509058
>it was just a joke bro!

>all these projections
Nijiniggers, I...

>>4508743
Who the fuck is he? A cover employee? Some random dude admit that he raped you in the ass and you take his word for it?

This thread has been stuck at 65 posters for the past hour. Don't you tribalfags have anything to do other than replying to this bait thread?

They never can. Even after Hololive's peak (December 2020), they still couldn't maintain the relevance in Japan that Nijisanji has.

>>4508998
Well, you can believe in coincidence, and you can dismiss somebody repeating "HoloEN is a myth" in /hlg/ several times without prompt or in response to any other anons speaking about it as some strange coincidence too. But considering we do know several of the actual talents and staff are aware of this website and have posted here before (Loserbait and Mori, for example) it seems like quite a stretch instead of the far more obvious answer that is guerilla marketing.

>>4509147
Yes? I would be worried for any JP's mental health if they saw that incident and unironically thought Cover was paying a journalist working at a different company to write articles that weren't really in their favor anyways.

People on this board probably take it seriously, and constantly spread narratives anyways. Ironically you probably being one of them.

>>4508678
>But the event is organized by Niji
But who are they going to credit for beating gura? The nijisanji main channel? So when ask who beat gura’s record, they are going to reply with “ the nijisanji main channel”? That sound retarded. At least last time they can credit it to Maimoto, an actual vtuber. The nijisanji main channel can’t be treated as an individual vtuber at all.

>>4509166
>using fbk to tribalpost
based retard

>>4509196
>did anon just post more than 2 times on a thread?
>hahaha no life!
>let me post it to point that out.

>>4498487
>NIJISANJI BIG HOLOS CANT COMPETE

Nijisanji should have all Sony permissions right? I'm not seeing the ENs play God of War, Spiderman, Bloodborne ect. They play the stuff Holos do + Genshin.

>>4509220
Marketing to 4chan???? I'd believe it more if they said that shit on twitter or reddit.

>>4509255
>just a joke, no one believe it!
>>4508929
>>4508974
>>4508999

>>4509298
Is that a Hololive fan when he sees that Nijisanji hasn't been close to being encroached as the top VTuber agency in Japan that's so irrelevant they need kaigai to stay even remotely relevant?

>>4509285
This thread has about 100 more replies than when I left it and it's probably the same 5 retards talking to each other for the past hour.

>>4509315
They do. Another reason why Hololive will never compete with Nijisanji. Sony always wins, Niji always wins.

>>4509316
>Marketing to 4chan????
/hlgg/ are the fastest threads on this entire website outside of /pol/, and that board was influential enough that it managed to turn a frog into a hate symbol. It's not as much as a ridiculous thought as you might think.

>>4498487
>genchink
>muse dash

>>4509355
>did anon have conversation on a thread?
>haha look at those no life retards!

>>4509338
That's because it's not a joke and they're right that Cover shills themselves, even here.

>>4509338
I don't know about him, but I'm not joking. It takes a willful denial of facts to pretend that staff with Loserbait and Lyger on it are unaware of this website or do not post here.

>>4509373
They are only fast on days when events are happening. And those are like 1000 posters. /pol/ is like that every day. You can't compare /pol/ to this place. This place can't even get more than 500 dislikes on a video when they tried.

>>4506254
>5-6 days a week for 5+ hours

>>4505530
Wave 4 will be the final blow. Just as it looks HoloEN has won, BAM, the final blow.

>>4509206
>Hololive Production
>Company as the setting
>Nijisanji
>Topic as the setting
>Using Romanji instead of Hiragana/Katakana
You really suck at this, anon.

>>4509422
>And those are like 1000 posters
And how many lurkers, do you figure? /hlgg/ gets around 300 ips pretty much every day. That accounts for a lot of lurkers. Those threads don't just go fast for no reason when a big event occurs, those are lurkers coming out of the woodworks and posting.

>>4509468
Not him but that's fairly accurate anyways.

>>4509405
>>4509416
Hololive fans are willing to pay artist to make a shout out for their oshii, pay a billboard on new york to promote their oshii's birthday stream, translating clips on many languages, etc.
Hololive didn't need to pay anything.
It was nijisanji who paid people to translate their clips.

>>4509541
>Hololive fans are willing to pay artist to make a shout out for their oshii, pay a billboard on new york to promote their oshii's birthday stream, translating clips on many languages, etc.
And isn't that just desperation because they know they're losing, especially in Japan>?

I can't tell if there are even any legit Nijisanji fans here or it's just all people trying to troll. Thankfully the EN girls do seem to have a genuine fanbase starting to form.

>>4509541
>It was nijisanji who paid people to translate their clips
And how do you think Hologra always manages to be released simultaneously with English subs? Magic?

>>4509520
Exactly? The 1000 ips includes a lot of the lurkers already. This place has no relevence in the market at all. Half the people here don't even watch chuubas.

>>4509585
It's a silent but charismatic following.

>>4509338
It's like you didn't even read the post, but I suppose that's to be expected.

>>4509563
>but muh japan!
>they're declining goddammit!
>>4509607
>but the hologra!
I'm talking about clips here, anonchama.

>>4509690
That doesn't answer his question. He wants you to know why they put kaigai first?

>>4509455
What's up with ayame anyway?
Is she really yagoo's sister?

>>4509729
They're a business? The entire world is a much larger market and thus has higher earnings potential than the tiny island nation known as nippon?

>>4506675
kek

>>4509759
Sounds like Hololive will never be Japanese then.

>>4509778
Neither is every multinational Japanese corporation on the planet then, I guess.

>>4509729
Because money?
Just like how nijisanji promote on using reddit.
Just like how nijisanji made their own official english translated clips.
Juslt like how nijisanji rebranded nijiIN to be nijiEN, backpedal when it didn't work out then straight out scrap the whole nijiIN because they afraid they will somehow confuse kaigai.
Just like how nijisanji made nijiEN in the first place.

>>4506734
bait threads? I don't care about bait threads, I just don't like Nijiniggers, that's all...

>>4509817
And that's why Niji remains supreme in the homeland and that's all that matters.
>>4509835
They don't do it more blatantly than Hololive does, they'll be fine.

The chinkpocalypse for Cover was a huge L for them, nobody really came out winning in it.

>>4503231
I want them to appeal to me

>>4509870
>They don't do it more blatantly

>>4509919
Money talks, don't it? Been telling them for months they will regret it and this is why Nijisanji remains up at the top. They don't even have to pander to China either, they can still get permissions to stream Genshin and learn from the mistakes that Hololive made in September. And no, I'm not a Zhang, I'm a financial analyst who studies trends for entertainment in America.

>>4509982
Yes. Nijisanji is the more authentic and organic agency. Problem?

>>4509919
>choose between coco or chinese market
>cover choose coco
>bugs still seeth to this day, imagine paying for membership to just write mean comments.
>china's market become more strict right after cover abandon holocn.
>lot of westerns who hate china support hololive more.
Yagoo is one lucky bastard.

>>4510022
They asked Lost Pause, the unironic weeb youtube reactor to react on their clips.

>>4510143

oh no

>>4510143
Nothing wrong with that.
>>4510082
But at what cost?

>>4509690
What's the difference if Nijisanji pays for translations of their clips and Hololive for translations of their short videos? Same shit at the end of the day.

>>4509919
They actually kind of dodged a bullet getting out of China when they did. Imagine a timeline where they keep investing more and more in a branch that always seems to be on the verge of going somewhere but never does, and gets more under the thumb of Billibill and the CCP with every new "partner law".

>>4498487
Losing Genshin was a big blow but it's not like they don't have anything to play. Maybe in 1-2 years if game is even bigger it's gonna bite them but not today.

But if they remain blacklisted by Chinese companies that keep buying overseas developers it could be a big problem.

>>4510265
You forgot that vtubing on china is more strict now.
I mean no animal-like avatar? China could just destroy a vtuber if she used cat ears.

>>4509870
>Niji remains supreme in the homeland
I prefer watching Nijisanji but I don't believe you on this. hololive is bigger in Japan now, they pandered to lonely Japanese otaku and got them to switch sides from Nijisanji. And it's those otaku who bring in the big bucks as well as the majority of the fanart (which makes free advertising). Nijisanji has the bigger capital and better connections, but the masses in Japan generally like hololive more.

>>4510265
See
>>4510320
>>4510436
Are the search trends fake? Sounds like you're in a bubble.

>>4510320
>But if they remain blacklisted by Chinese companies that keep buying overseas developers it could be a big problem.
Now this a conversation.
I always wonder how much a chinese share holder have a say to the company.
Sure, we have companies that bend their knee to china, but the company only change something if they promote something on china (like movies or games).
Surely Xbox have chinese shareholder (correct me if i'm wrong).
Yet they still collab with hololive.
And don't forget on how much ubisoft suck korone's dick.

Considering cover actually pays all of their talents enough so that they can stream fulltime and 90% of Niji's are mere part timers who see it as a hobby rather than an actual job. I'd say Cover is the much better company especially since several of the talents from Niji left to be indie or joined other company like Cover.

>>4510556
It's not a big problem today. Can be in the future if chinks keep expanding.

>>4510758
Well sure, the market is now trying to favor china, but we have case like doom games where it can't be released on china because of it contents.
So i think, game wise, hololive will be fine.

>>4510758
Their expansion is inevitable. They may actually be shareholders in Cover soon, actually. Always at the right price.

>>4509339
>Numbers
>EOPs
Choose one, also you will never be japanese

Chinese developers have never made a good game. And if they do, it's plagued by microtransactions/gacha

>>4509984
Retarchama go to the numberfag threads, Niji has been losing to Hololive for a while now. Ichikara was forced to remove their #1 numberfagging on their website.

>>4509585
It's ok, it keeps faggots away from the actually nijiEN thread, and you can spot those retarded faggots who can't contain themselves and spreading those retarded narratives outside of 4chan

Holyshit, don't know if it's hololive's payshills or extreme hololive's fans but the nijisanjihate threads on this board is ridiculous lol
how butthurt can you be for a company with a little presence they are in the west, this level of seething i never seen before kek

>>4510694
>cover actually pays all of their talents enough so that they can stream fulltime
How has that worked out for Korone, Aqua and Mio?
>Niji's are mere part timers who see it as a hobby rather than an actual job
Which is how it should be, as the entertainment business in general goes through constant boom and bust cycles.
>Cover is the much better company
Keep telling yourself that

>>4511757
>Code Miko
Wow people have shit taste

>>4508593
>>4508619
Jesus Christ you guys can't read huh?
Let me explain it a bit better.
"The person involved" = Mel
And with the help of upper management (probably A-chan) she managed to send the guy to court as well.
And if you people believe - even for a moment - that a Japanese company has a literal criminal still on their payroll after getting publically outed, then I have a very nice Pyramid to sell you.

>>4509264
Its tribal fagging, attributing to Nijisanji is all that matters.

>>4511757
its a carryover from the 5chan tribal fagging. There's been tribal fagging between hololive and niji for a long time, and it started from the niji side, when they were dominant. Its payback.

>>4512889
Payback for tall tales you heard about what a group did to a group you like before you were even a part of it's fanbase?

>>4512889
>There's been tribal fagging between hololive and niji for a long time
lol, hololive was nobody in japan before 2020, how can they have been fighting for a long time, seem like making narratives about nijisanji is holobronies part-time job at this point. All I have seen is niji-anti threads from holobronies.

>>4512889
Ironic since most people who watch Nijisanji here now came over from the hololive fandom because they were almost nonexistent before NijiEN. So basically the people who are getting the brunt of the "payback" are hololive fans who are trying to try out new shit.

>>4513612
This. eop fans of Nijisanji don't even watch EN, or they learned enough moon runes to watch JP.

>>4510436
Kek. I love this retard.

>>4513241
There’s one person on this board desperately trying to make holobronies a thing kek

>>4513612
people actually fail to realize this. /jp/fags dont care about EN or this board they either hang out in their thread or nijimeido's sekrit discord. the tribalism in this board is just a bunch of retards fighting among themselves.

>>4498487
Honestly it's a shame they can't play Genshin. Shit is unironically bigger than Pokemon these days. And looking at Honkai game will be 5x better in like two years.

>>4499843
the amount of cope coming from nijibrowns

>>4513612
Thats false but ok, belive that if it makes you feel better

>>4499951
me