/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0usYxw3pko
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0usYxw3pko
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0usYxw3pko
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0usYxw3pko

>>44782390
*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

PARADE

>>44782351
Just two more weeks, just you wait.

Do we hate Suisei now?

>>44782452
PARADE PARADE PARADEEEEE

>>44782222
>Why are they so confident with just the JP market alone?

>>44782390
*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

Grim status?

EN3 FINALLY OMG

>Bae is HoloID
>Bae is NijiEN
Next you will say Bae is Tempus

>>44782485
>now

I'm Your Treasure Box has passed Ayame's Goodbye Sengen in total views, how much higher up the list will it go?

>>44782512
Shouldn't Cover stop wasting 3D space and other resources for HoloEN and ID?

>>44782463
what kind?

>>44782390
Recent clip numbers
>>44725680
>>44725707
>>44725734
>>44725759
>>44725787

>>44782512
Suzy better do a 3D live. She can be losing to Choco.

is there a GRIMer word than GRIM to describe this GRIMness? GRIM feels too weak now

>>44782463
I don't hear Ame in this song

P A R A D E
A A
R _ _R
A _ _ _ A
D _ _ _ _ D
E _ _ _ _ _ _ E

>>44782595
Once Myth leaves no more side branch members will set foot in cover studio again

>>44782390
*YESTERDAY'S FINAL TALLY*
>45,471: Suisei (Hololive)
>35,900: Mito (Nijisanji)
>26,643: Claire (Nijisanji)
>25,870: Subaru (Hololive)
>17,746: Kanata (Hololive)
>17,630: Salome (Nijisanji)
>17,023: Subaru (Hololive)
>16,170: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>16,050: Nene (Hololive)
>15,672: Lisa (VSPO)
>15,248: Lui (Hololive)
>14,974: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>13,939: Hayato (Nijisanji)
>13,400: Noel (Hololive)
>13,393: Salome (Nijisanji)
>11,019: Koyori (Hololive)
>10,852: Maimoto (Nijisanji)
>10,791: Vox (Nijisanji)
>10,429: Chloe (Hololive)

>>44782657
Bleak?

>>44782595
They obviously think so. That's why they are building the new studio.

>>44782595
Probably. They should axe the entire branch since their livers can't stream or behave.

>>44782512
I wonder if Vtubers will end up this popular in the west in 10-15 years, given we generally lag about that much behind Japan on late stage capitalism social problems

>>44782485
This thread never liked Suisei
Don't let hoshiyomis tell you otherwise

Fucking Nijiniggers trying to gaslight us into believing 2k is bad

>>44782588
>Ayame as the face of two top 5 viewed Holo songs.
Strongest Vsinger

Gura and Fauna remain /#/'s most popular ENs

>>44782778
Severe numberrot

>tierlist
>sub3k
grim

So did we talk about how the Zaion announcement 100% confirms that nijisanji does stealth suspensions?

>>44782837
AHAHAHAHA IRYSORECLINING

Looks like Gold today is either Botan with Yagoo/Polka or Lamy with Chloe/Kanata/Marine

Which of the two is likeliest to gold here?

>>44782839
Only us Niji fans have numberrot since we always achieve high numbers unlike your shitty brand of whores.

>>44782739
That isn't gonna be ready for a while if they're asking for funding now. They'll be close to belly up when it does come.

>>44782617
OUR BRIGHT PARADE

>>44782547
You call “that” GRIM?
>WATCH THIS!

>>44782588
It will be #2 or #3 in a year I expect Phony cover to be the the other placement and #1 to remain the same

>>44782941
I love people who can't read or don't read.

>>44782837
>That Kronii incline
So I guess people finally moved on and forgave her for her so called "yab"?

>>44782937
Shiraken collab is always a contender as well

GRIM

Man, people just like to imagine Hololive fails

>>44782941
Nice cope sister.

>>44782937
>5th Gen getting a gold
lol

>>44783046
The first poal was posted as Kronii's stream was happening

>>44783104
SUCCESS BREEDS JEALOUSY

>>44782703
>MARCH 2023 GOLDS
1) Nerumero (Indie) - 32,543 - Genshin gacha
2) Mio (Hololive) - 42,700 - Mahjong tournament
3) Gura (Hololive) - 67,405 - 3D showcase
4) Toya (Nijisanji) - 68,467 - Oekaki no Mori tournament
5) Miko (Hololive) - 138,977 - 3D birthday live
6) Marine (Hololive) - 39,525 - Minecraft w/Kanata
7) Miko (Hololive) - 42,738 - Soulcalibur 6
8) Pekora (Hololive) - 52,296 - Clubhouse 51 totsu
9) Subaru (Hololive) - 33,648 - Minecraft
10) Suisei (Hololive) - 45,471 - Micomet mocopi Switch Sports

>PER COMPANY
8x: Hololive
1x: Indie, Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
2x: Miko
1x: Gura, Marine, Mio, Nerumero, Pekora, Subaru, Suisei, Toya

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
52x: Hololive
14x: Nijisanji
2x: Indie
1x: VSPO

>PER STREAMER
21x: Pekora
6x: Marine
4x: Toya
3x: Miko, Mio, Subaru
2x: Kuzuha, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Okayu, Suisei, Towa
1x: Choco, Gaku, Gura, Himawari, Hinano, Hololive, Ina, Kiara, Koyori, Lamy, Mito, Mori, Nozomi, Polka, Roco, Watame, Yashiro

>>44782941
Thanks for confirming you're a Nijinigger. True Holochads already know the tentative opening date of the studio.

>Another Miko and Suisei collab #671025919015
Yaaayyy I'm so excited for this completely genuine pairing that definitely like each other

Some gems from the catalogue

>>44770169
I think the bigger problem is that there's a clear numbers requirement, and that self-selects towards undesirable people.
Not that more numbers are bad, but there's a specific type of person that both has numbers and wants to join a vtubing agency with a viewership floor at Nijisanji's level. You have to have high numbers but low revenue.

That population of content creators is predominantly people who get high traffic and either low retention or no monetization. This is mostly leeches who don't have tangible talents but are really good at social engineering. People who make content in legal greyzones like emulated or derivative content that they can't do as a corporate talent. People who make content in ethical greyzones like drama or fringe stuff which is a risk to the company. Even people who might have a good personality and good content but aren't consistent enough to maintain viewers which become bad hires because the problems that caused them not to work hard independently don't magically vanish in a company.

It's another story if they get good subs, good views, and good money but at that point applying for the company becomes a gamble since they can't just retain their numbers, they probably have to more than double what they were doing before in order to not lose out.

The hiring strategy is rigged to produce problems.

>>44783046
poal was posted when kronii was streaming

>>44782858
It's a self fellating tier list that doesn't really fucking do anything. The ENTIRE POINT of tier lists is to be as thinly veiled controversial as possible to get people to get mad and argue and watch to see what retarded shit you're going to list out. It's why IRyS' animal tier list failed, it's why this one is failing, and is why both of Fauna's succeeded. Except this is worse because you have to actively watch streams to give a single FUCK about ANY of these streams she's tiering and tourists are not going to give one. And her floor has always been abysmal.

>>44783104
But they are failing though, they have too many shitters and investors will not like it.

>>44782912
Bruh we already know that when Gwelu was suspended (stealthily).

>>44783003
Is there a bigger mistake from Clover than adding these 8 shitter rather than en3?

>>44783104
Obviously. What would be the point of imagining Niji failing when you can just take a look out the window and see it?

>>44783104
holochads just keep winning. watch the scripted seethe.

>>44783104
Longest two weeks in the history of the Universe.

*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY*

>3/10 DAILY TALLY
10,791: Vox (Nijisanji)
9,550: Fauna (Hololive)
8,760: Vox (Nijisanji)
8,641: Ina (Hololive)
7,588: Kronii (Hololive)


>EN GOLDS FOR MARCH 2023
1) Mori (Hololive) - 18,696 - Monopoly (w/ Amelia, Magni, Vesper)
2) Vox (Nijisanji) - 8,614 - Return Stream
3) Gura (Hololive) - 67,405 - 3D Showcase
4) Amelia (Hololive) - 39,353 - 3D Showcase
5) Hololive English (Hololive) - 57,045 - Myth 3D Collab
6) Fauna (Hololive) - 6,793 - Penumbra
7) Kiara (Hololive) - 24,018 - Myth Offcollab
8) Shu (Nijisanji) - 10,195 - Return Stream
9) Ina (Hololive) - 14,532 - Minecraft
10) Vox (Nijisanji) - 10,791 - Charity Stream

>PER COMPANY
7x: Hololive
3x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
2x: Vox
1x: Mori, Gura, Amelia, Hololive English, Fauna, Kiara, Shu, Ina

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
18p: Fauna
16p: Vox
9p: Mysta
6p: Shu
5p: Mori, Gura, Amelia, Hololive English, Kiara, Ina
3p: Uki, IRyS
1p: Pippa, Elira, Rosemi, Mumei

>>44783239
yeah but what Zaion confirms is that they don't even announce suspensions sometimes and therefore any time a liver goes on an extended break it could be because they were suspended

>>44783236
If Hololive counts as a failure, other vtuber companies are worse than failure

>>44783236
Hmm yes, this might cause some level of doubt in a young child who doesn't have an education in business.

>>44783221
t.nousakek

>>44783003
>they sacrificed EN3 for this

>>44783230
So basically what Bae needs to do is "HoloEN member's charm tierlist" and IRyS needs to do "HoloEN singing tierlist"?

>>44782760
>I wonder if Vtubers will end up this popular in the west
***REGULAR*** live streaming is not this popular in what’s perceived as the west (meaning North America and Western Europe) and to disprove this assertion all one needs is to show *ten* different streamers from this markets capable of getting 70k+ streams in 2023 while also getting multiple 30k streams per month.

>>44783236
You do understand that Cover and Anycolor are two different companies?

No wonder Suisei is fat if the leech keeps sucking Miko dry like this.

>>44783315
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
46x: Hololive
21x: Nijisanj
2x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
8x: Mori
7x: Amelia
5x: Mumei, Baelz, Ina
4x: IRyS, Fauna, Vox
3x: Mysta, Gura
2x: Selen, Pomu, Kronii, Kiara
1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, Luxiem, Finana, Millie, Luca, Regis, Enna, Rosemi, Hololive English, Shu

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
59p: Fauna
51p: Ina
50p: Mumei
48p: Mori, Amelia
42p: Vox
41p: IRyS
40p: Baelz
33p: Mysta
23p: Kiara
17p: Kronii
16p: Luca
15p: Gura
13p: Selen
11p: Uki
10p: Pomu
9p: Millie, Enna, Ike
8p: Finana
7p: Regis
6p: Elira, Shu, Rosemi
5p: Flayon, Alban, Luxiem, Hololive English
4p: Vesper
3p: Sonny, Hakka, Magni
1p: Meloco, Shinri, Gavis, Axel, Maria, Pippa

>pomu's outfit reveal stream only got around 19k
Looks like Zaion's termination is hurting nijien's numbers.

>>44782452
Ame is the only good singer in that group. Good thing she's there.

>>44783104
>imagine
I don't need to do that for holoEN.

>>44783407
They should get terminated

Sisters got so mindbroken by the Zaion shitposting, they are imagining Cover doomsday scenarios that aren't even a bit close to reality.

>>44783104
You are losing to indies and small corpos. Wake up. Hololive is declining with no end in sight and already exhausted all their most buff streams

>>44783539

>>44783595
TICK-TOCK FAUNA

>>44783568

>>44782778
The fuck was the point of this post? I asked an honest question, don't (You) me with some pointless bullshit

I cant wait for irys to get a big yab and get fired.

>>44783585
so do you just take statements made about nijisanji and replace nijisanji with hololive?

>>44783595
IRyS will get a boost from her Birthday. Any day now, it's going to kick in. It's like a delayed reaction...

>>44783585
roru

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y3j-ZCy5Lw

>>44783569
Sister this, sister that, fucking annoying Indog. No one brought out nijiEN but you would always spam them. Seems like sisters are living rent free in your head.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y3j-ZCy5Lw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y3j-ZCy5Lw

>>44783435
>>44783651

With the slow decline in the streaming market, is Hololive smart by diversifysing their business to live concert, gaming and other ventures?
Even Anykara is following Cover's footsteps.

>>44783223
>That population of content creators is predominantly people who get high traffic and either low retention or no monetization
That’s a good description

>>44783595

>nijinigger's wet dream.

>>44783569
the nijiniggers need to cope please understand

>>44783603
(no streaming)
It is not wise to leave your throne vacant for so long, my queen.

>we are living on a timeline that Pippa can mog some of the HoloEN members
Is this the GRIMMIEST GRIM to ever GRIM for HoloEN? Although i'm surprised Pippa is showing no stops to her rise in popularity.

>>44782837
>poal

>>44783683
why do nijiniggers hate indos so much?

>>44783732

>>44783595
Kobo beat Suzy? Damn. Korone next

>>44783804
For some strange reason the sisters believe that only indochads hate nijisanji
No I don't get it either

>>44783683
you will never be a woman.

>>44783801
Its okay to be disappointed that your oshi isnt more popular

>>44783720
There's a reason Yagoo is becoming so well respected in Japan
Turns out having real talent instead of a rich cunt at the top makes a big difference

>>44783850
probably still butthurt that Kobo beat out both Vox and Salome

Why does a Kiara anti have more ccv than Kiara? With fucking react content to top it off

>>44783770
700k endurance is postponed.

>>44783804
I am not nijiniggers and I don't hate indogs that behave. Stop being such a tribalfag and derail the thread.

>>44783845
It saddens me how the doog is forever stuck behind the 2M milestone. Even Fubuki managed to get it

>>44783952
then why do you act like a nijinigger?

>>44783792
It is pretty impressive for her to gain some audience outside of the usual chuuba watching crowd. But with the cost of being a polit-chuuba it's not very replicable and risky. Still won't make me watch her though.

>>44783804
because they fail that market I guess.

>>44783104
Same thing can be said about you and this stream. You fags has been wishing for NijiEN to fail.

Any sane individual hates the brown Chinese Muslims

WHERE THE FUCK IS TEMPUS3. Yagoo please before it stop late

>>44783595
What is even happening with EN right now. Is Gura being away really affecting them this much or was introducing 4 more homo making people lose faith.

>>44783845
Why don't Kobo's subscribers watch her streams? I don't get it.

>>44783720
>slow decline in the streaming market
Maybe for their overseas branch, but JP is still strong, even seem to incline a bit

>>44783977
The only good ID is Kaela

>>44783683
Damn sister, at least try to hide your embarrassing seethe.

Does Nijisanji have an event later? Or will it just be an Elf vs Elf for gold?

>>44783856
Thank god for that.

>>44783945
>With fucking react content
You say that as if it weren't a buff.

>>44783792
>i'm surprised Pippa is showing no stops to her rise in popularity
This is what unrestrained Western vtubing is like. Constant controversy and drama bait, react streams, and TAKES. The only difference between her and people like Destiny and Hasan is that she presents as more towards the right than them.

>>44783236
but that's a good thing now, investors will force them to do better or end to the banishment room

Thoughts?

>>44783804
Success breeds jealousy and nothing breeds jealousy more than seeing someone else succeed where you failed

>>44783959
>forever
Nah she's just 1 good half year to 2M. Hopefully the HAG house keeps asking her to join them on collabs

>Massively assblasted over hololive's long streak of extreme success lately
>"deploy all deflections immediately!! holo vs holo, call them leeches, hyperfocus on the few bad numbers, homos homos homos!!"
Should've simply had better taste sisters, you could be enjoying yourselves right now with kino streams and actually feel proud of your oshi instead of wishing your company had anything better to offer than inside drama.

>>44783792
English streaming = friend simulator. Pippa is good at that. HoloEN are really fucking bad at being friends with chat. Even Gura only did it very well in members streams

>>44783792
>Pippa gets popular
>other vtuber noticed but dont really understand

Could explain the sharp incline in the amount of chuubas doing /here/ callbacks and political nods lately

>>44783709
You got an honest response. The answer is: Hololive success is so big it distorts the perception of the livestream market.
You’ll be hard pressed to find ten streamers in that whole western market to fulfill both those conditions: 70k+ stream in 2023, ability to get several 30k streams per month.
In Hololive, you get those “under the same roof”.

>>44784067
Whore

>>44783236
so you're just going to take statements about nijisanji and replace nijisanji with hololive huh?

>>44784067
My wife

>>44784089
woah all of them combined is only equivalent of 1 iofi or anya

Does anyone notice that the closer we get to HoloFes 4, the more insane the niggers are getting?

>>44784099
stfu hoshikek, no one likes you

>>44784089
hmm

>>44784013
Not sure what you mean, EN sub growth has been like this for months. If anything ID3 sub numbers have dropped way off. Kobo was getting over 100k a month

>NA PRIME TIME
NIjiEN 15k (6)
StarsEN 4k (3)
HoloEN 4k (2)
Phase connect 3k (1)

>>44784012
Valorant spam. I bet a lot of them subbed for her music

>>44784215
Pare pare pare...

>>44784236
>posting with chuuba pic means that chuuba is anon's oshi
Great argument sister, keep it up

>>44784215
Holofes is going to BTFO them so hard so they're trying their best to cope before they get drowned out by holofes success

>>44784195
they wish they could combine to become iofi tier lol

>>44784013
In JP people watch vtubers after a long day of work to smile and have fun. In EN that’s cringe and parasocial so people are leaving to watching drama tubers.

Retards defend Suisei here because they're EOPs who don't understand her attitude and what she's saying. There's a reason why her fanbase is full of EOPs while there's barely any nips that like her.

>>44784089
i miss this man

Gura has 4 million subs, you're telling me she cant share them with Council? Oh whats that? 99% of them are dead bots? Wow!

Investors this, investors that. They are clearly told what they will be buying.

>>44784236
SUCCESS BREEDS JEALOUSY

>>44784283
>HoloJP -18.2k (2)

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/DYqhfhVRrIY
have you played the game??

>>44783976
>>44784045
You guys are silly. It’s not that Pippa inclined above HoloEN, it’s that Bae and Kiara reclined below Pippa with a piss poor choice of content and slot.

>>44784377
pffft

ENTER OUR CUTE WIFE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zU8EPYdkheo

>>44784283
Average:
1. Phase 3.5k
2. NijiEN 2.5k
3. HoloEN 2k
4. StarsEN 1.3k

PHASE BROS WE MADE IT

>>44784406
Too bad Suisei isn't successful

>>44784174
That's an extremely cherrypicked defition of popularity.
There's ~30 5views live right now on Twitch + a ton of 4views. Clearly streaming is pretty popular. Also again you completely missed the point of my question fucking kill yourself and quit replying to me you inbred retard

>>44784377
SUCCESS BREEDS JEALOUSY

>>44784385
She should worry about sharing them with Myth first

>>44784283
>>44784484
Why are ENs such midgets? Is this why they are angry and tribalfagging all the times?

>>44784099
>Few bad numbers
Nigger HoloEN only has bad numbers exept for their MC and 3D streams they can't even best Vox's 10k stream. HoloEN used to hit 10k without any issue but now they can't do that and it's a continuous recline. Now some of them are struggling to reach 8k.

>>44784099
Based Hoshimati

>>44784531
She did. Otherwise Kiara would still be at 300k.

>check top 5 HoloJp sub count
>sees this
Peko and Koro are culled? Does Neal hate rabbits and dogs for some reason?

>>44784279
I just thought that with all the events that holoEN would be looking better than last year. Is it even possible for them to incline? Or is there something weird going on?

>>44784495
>First vtuber that performed on TFT
???

>>44784605
And?

>>44784420
That's grim for HoloJP Saturday morning numbers...
Last week they had at least 24k

>>44784283
>15÷6=2.5k avarage ccv
>4÷3=1.4k avarage ccv
>4÷2=2k avarage ccv
>3÷1=3k avarage ccv

GO PC GO

>>44784513
Live streaming will die just like movie/series streaming like Netflix. It is unsustainable.

>>44784436
Still, Pippa showed considerable growth even before the Hogwarts arc. Kiara's timeslot and both Bae and her's content choice didn't help, but you can't deny that the rabbit grew a lot to the point of easily mogging the most popular NijiEN girls.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xytP4X8ARyI
Koyo playing a spelunky rip off?

Kobo is top 9th now btw

>>44784482
Actual overlap hell

>>44784562
>Vox
huh?

>>44784605
You know that doesn't mean shit right? Anyone could be on TFT if they pay enough money or if they suck enough dicks

>>44784012
They watch the VOD- oh wait, sorry, i forgot this is /#/, who hates VOD views...

>>44784581
Marine is very well rounded in singing, streams and gaming.

>>44784665
And get replaced by what? Fuck off with you "it was revealed to me in a dream" arguments

>>44784630
alright you're a nigger I get it

>>44784513
I'm still amazed that a literal chatbot is mogging a shit ton of indies over on twitch

>>44784699
nice more reason to add runt branch into company profile

>>44784699
Meteoric, pretty incredible

>>44784283
>NijiEN has more viewers than the rest of the EN speaking chuubas combined
NIJI DOMINATION
Anycolor wins again lmao

>>44784495
This one I genuinely don't get. Usually shitposters who try to deflect from holos's successes simply use opiniins you technically can't disprove ("she sucks/she's overrated/she's a leech"), but why lie with objectively false info you can debunk in 2 minutes?
What's next, "Pekora is actually a 3view"?

>>44784699
what's her ccv?

>>44784562
>HoloEN used to hit 10k without any issue
The only HoloEN with a >10k median has always been Gura and sometimes but rarely Ina. We just had multiple 10k streams not even 2 days ago.
>Vox
Got 10k on a 1 POV Amongus collab which used to get like 50k 6 months ago

>>44784436
holocope

>>44784089

>>44784099
Nijinigger's status?
i'm really curious what are they feeling rightnow after seeing their no sense delusions lol.

>>44784747
She has more universal appeal than Pekora and gets a lot more women watching. Pekora's larger core audience leads to higher engagements and CCV.

>>44784562
>Vox's 10k stream

>>44784828
Something something bots

>>44784753
>get replaced by what
Government mandated channels like BBC and CNN. They are appearing more and more in my feeds. They are much more sustainable because the funding came from government.

And tiktok.

>>44784814
And Holoniggers act like they are not reclining

2k waiting, easy 6k for IRyS

>>44784828
the thing about /#/ is that if you repeat a lie often enough people eventually stop disputing you because "it's obvious it's a lie", and the newfags come in, see that and think it's true becauwe it gets posted so often

>>44784377
they dont deserve suichan if they cant handle hoshimachi

>>44784828
your first mistake was even taking these lazy shitposters fishing for (You)s seriously to begin with

>>44784871
kek

>>44784737
Kobo vod view is all over the place. It ranges from low 80k to high 300k.

>creating what ifs because hololive is just superior

>>44784699
yet Kaela makes more money than her with only 584k subscribers LEMAO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zU8EPYdkheo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zU8EPYdkheo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zU8EPYdkheo
DEBUFFSON TO THE RESCUE

https://www.youtube.com/live/lk9u3hn898w?feature=share

MY INDIE OSHI IS PERFECT FOR EN4! GO WATCH! SHE'S PLAYING A PIANO WITH HAND CAM!

>>44784955
ogey

>>44785104
OVERLAP HELL IKZ

>>44784737
>VODs don't count because... THEY JUST DON'T OKAY
stop letting salty jpniggers gaslight you into discarding metrics

>>44784608
I mean, for Fauna and Mumei that monthly growth is actually the best it's been in a while. Also, Gura and Mori both ticked up to 20k per month when they both came close to 0 0 0 recently
If you want a Kobo style boost you need a new gen or a viral song.

Transphobic bitch. I say we should only count quarter of her ccvs. She dont deserve to have more ccv than Kiara and Bae

>>44784513
>missed the point of my question
Here is a recap.

Your question (>>44782760)
>I wonder if Vtubers will end up this popular in the west in 10-15 years
The “this” you refer in your post (>>44782512)
>several streams ranging from 70k to 178k from nine different streamers under Hololive
The answer you got (>>44783435)
>an implied “no” because “***REGULAR*** live stream is not this popular in what’s perceived as the west“

Question asked and answered.

Why is the shit flinging getting this bad in the morning?

>>44784828
Nijifags are losing their brain cells after defending niji 24/7.
that's why there are so many nijifag's delusions rightnow.
please understand.

I don't know why it took me this long to realize, but Bae and Kiara are actually really similar

- their most notable talents are dancing and being multilingual, which are mostly irrelevant to numbers
- voices with qualities that filter a significant portion of the EN audience
- mediocre live singers that require post-production to be decent, resulting in poor karaoke numbers with some official orisongs/covers that do well
- culturally out of touch with rest of EN, relatively speaking
- shitty gamers that also tend to have long series
- shills non-holos (nijis for Kiara, homos for Bae)
- suboptimal home timezones (Kiara's debuff EU timeslot, AUS Bae tries NA timeslots while tired af)
- overall mediocre streamers and not just because of the above
- one debuff way that do differ: Kiara is notably blunt and needy, while Bae is an overlap magnet streaming at inconsistent times (although Kiara is also doing this lately while in JP)

It's no wonder they share runt status

>>44785074
still butthurt over vox losing to kobo huh?

>>44785181
Because a Niji organ got terminated after what was essentially a fucking month of streaming. Even worse than Yugo and definitely worse than Sana.

Only takes IRyS 5 minutes to mog Kiara lmao

>>44785105
Is this the girl who's a fan of Magni and would gladly collab with males?

>>44785061
I don't need to create "if" Gura doesn't stream
I don't need to create "if" Ina doesn't stream
I don't need to create "if" Fauna is bland
I don't need to create "if" Mumei has nothing to say on a stream
I don't need to create "if" Ame intentionally pissed off her fans
I don't need to create "if" Mori, Kiara and Bae get bad numbers
I don't need to create "if" IRyS is not a good vsinger

I don't need to create "if" HoloEN is worse than HoloJP

>>44785181
Niji defence force got back from work and put in overtime over zaion

>>44783003
>>44783260
>>44783385
how are you gonna feel when en3 debut and it's another group of 5 zoomers that don't stream and hate each other

>>44784828
Just part of (you) farming meta
posting as nijinigger spouting retarted take get the most you as people will quickly come to correct your mistake

>>44784828
If you think Suisei is as successful as Pekora, Miko, or Marine you're stupid

>>44784937
Your conspiracy theory is meaningless unless you can raid Youtube's HQ and see whats really happening otherwise tribal fags are just coping.

>>44784067
I love her. Shes great

>>44785225
he get's mogged regulary by Kaela retard
do not reply with any niji liver failure ever again

>>44784955
>government mandated channels
You live in China?

>>44785169
The point is that hololive popularity is still fucking nothing compared to the actual bigwigs of Twitch like xQc or Asmon

>>44785342
Then why do you act like a nijinigger?

>>44784687
when will they play the spelunky of steam?

>>44785262
It is fire emblem anon. Did you expect kiara to suddenly get 7k with part 7 instead of her usual 2k?

>>44785226
Difference is that Kiara actually gets SCs.

Since when did /#/ cared about kiara?

>>44785275
>still pretending to be a last samurai

>>44785181
>Zaion's termination
>Sub 20k outfit
>Niji's defense force is going all out for their delusion

>>44783221
Pekomiko status?

>>44785442
we love kiara here

>>44785372
>Twitch imaginary numbers
Wasn't Susan's twitch converts doing poorly in CCV?

>>44785169
>>44785372
>an implied “no” because “***REGULAR*** live stream is not this popular in what’s perceived as the west“
I was asking about TEN TO FIFTEEN YEARS DOWN THE ROAD you mouthbreathing mongoloid monstrosity. As westerners fall more and more into the hikki lifestyle. Don't blame me that you're fucking illiterate

>>44785002
I bite all the bait because my oshi and her friends & coworkers are winning so badly lately that I always win the arguments in the end anyway while they trip over their own arguments and start babbling nonsense.

>>44785442
This is a KFP thread now

PARADEEEEEEE

Should we ban HoloJP from the count? They're dominating so myuch they make all other vtubers look amateur.

>>44785104
I actually hate her. Like actual real hatred.

>>44784732
>if they suck enough dicks
then your mom should've been on it a long time ago

PARADEEEEEEE PARADEEEEEEE PARADEEEEEEE

>Massive depopulation of viewers occuring on HoloEN
What can we do to stop this?

>>44785557
git gud

>>44785601

>>44784004
NijiEN has been unironically taking L's for the past month.

Not a single HoloEN will hit 20k today. Can you refute that? Holobronies.

>>44785624
maybe they should have debuted EN3 to reinvigorate the scene last fall? crazy idea, I know

>>44785456
>only 1 point about the JPs
>last samurai
Come on now.

>>44785495
Their Deco*27 song was a huge success and theyre going ti sing it onstage together at the Holo*27 stage during Holofes!

>>44785442
we do not allow nijiniggers to pry at the weakspots of hololive with impunity, that way leads to nijiniggerism

>>44785505
CCV is a retarded metric to use on Youtube, all Western streamers are culled massively.

>>44785696
Nobody was terminated today so theirs that

>>44785557
HoloJP has artificial numbers. They get their streams botted. HoloEN is knee capped by 55% and add CCVID on top of it.

>>44785601
KEK

IRyS cant even mog Pippa. Thats kinda sad

>Bae 2k
>Kiara 2k
>IRyS 2k
Holy mother of Grim
And I thought sub5k holoEN streams were bad and demoralizing
TOURISTS TASUKETEEEEEE

>>44784828
Suisei is objectively unsuccessful without hololive brand.
Go look up her midnight grands orchestra numbers

>>44785226
That is the biggest problem with Council's picks. They are technically different if you look at specifics but overall they are similar enough to Myth members that they cannot help but overlap and bleed to their corresponding audiences. I posted this already a few times recently, but they have to pick people with as little personality and content overlap as possible to existing talents for EN3. However, they also need to make sure they are willing to regularly cooperate and collaborate with others from the branch and the whole company.

>>44784804
>Meteoric
That’s a pet peeve of mine, this word being used to means the exact opposite (just like “literally” to mean “figuratively”).
A meteor is something that crashes through the sky, falling at incredible speed and disintegrating into a big ball of fire.
“Meteoric rise” is contradiction

Sorry Pomu 20k is for non nijiniggers

>>44785813
Moom and Fauna will save us from the lack of a tally. Trust.

>>44785557
Make 2 /#/ threads, one for JPs and another for non-JPs

Irys overlap doesn't seem to affect kiara at all. Interesting

>>44783595
INDOGODS WW@

>>44785813
>2k is bad now
Rope yourself nijinigger

>>44785618
How do they even choose who gets to sing it? Ame? Seriously???

>>44785601
Hello I would like to report you for murder

>>44785163
Seeth tranny, the world hates you and now the vtuber world hates yo uh too.

If IRyS doesn't beat Ame's jelly kusoge, I'll make fun of irystocrats forever

>Holokeks complains when their whores doesn't stream
>actually streams for once and has a decent schedule for a 10 person branch
>no one watches them
It's over isn't it....

>>44783236
Now that i think about it
Why did yagoo hire uproar and tempus 2 if he knew he was going IPO?
Seems weird as fuck

>>44785762
Why are you acting like a Nijinigger?

>>44785911
Shut the fuck uo Phasenigger. You are not even allowed to be here

>>44785920
t.kfp

Zaion will be special guest at the Holofes. Welcome to the bright parade.

>>44785920
You were going to shitpost regardless, sister.

>>44785601
FUCK YOU

>>44785969
can't let the nijinigs have all the mindsahre

What are soleil's numbers like these days? Are they better than illuna?

>>44783720
This is the 4th annual Holofes, it's a new thing.

>>44785971
Nani?

>>44785895
Fucking kill yourself it is bad that's NijiEN tier number and the fact that HoloEN is getting that it's fucking grim

>>44783595
Dead in the algo

>>44785495
Still a legendary pairing instead of turning into mindless garbage corporate pairing like mic*met

>>44785105
damn, she's rich, i bet anykara will hire her as their ame

>>44785721
>suggest adding more members to cannibalize the already weak ENbox instead of improving the quality of EN streams
That sure worked well for you, nijinigger

>>44785601
Ufff

>>44784004
It already failed

>>44785847
Just think of it as an idiom. With those, the less sense they make the better they are

>>44785372
Just name ten of them and I concede the point. Must have one 70k stream in 2023 and be capable of several 30k in a month.

>>44785508
Mate, I would say the BULK of japanese live stream watchers are the prototypical salaryman, young financially independent professionals with disposable money but little social life outside the internet.
They’re far from being hikkis

>>44786147
..... aaaany time now

>>44785851
Ame already hit 5.5k
Her karaoke will definitely cripple tally as well

>another holocure stream
Mumei for god sake jus try something else

>>44785624
>What can we do to stop this?
Tell them to stream more

My goodness
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/11nkjs0/it_just_works/

>>44785969
That's precisely why they released these shitters before the IPO, shit ain't gonna fly when you're actually liable for terrible business decision

* FINAL 24HRS VOD TALLY FOR 03/09/2023 *
(View growth after 1 hour at end of each line)
>524,324 Hanabusa Lisa (Brave Group) (13.2%)
>339,829 Kuzuha (ANYCOLOR) (41.3%)
>279,799 Komori Met (774 inc) (32.4%)
>264,260 Oozora Subaru (COVER) (60.8%)
>252,557 Yakumo Beni (Brave Group) (541.4%)
>233,223 Murasaki Shion (COVER) (30.2%)
>224,974 Usada Pekora (COVER) (137.3%)
>216,075 Kson (VShojo) (78.7%)
>194,590 Amane Kanata (COVER) (169.6%)
>171,778 Lauren Iroas (ANYCOLOR) (44.7%)
>151,809 Inugami Korone (COVER) (37.3%)

Why does this thread hate Suisei and miComet?

>>44784687
I remember watching the Gamecenter CX episode of that game.

>>44785973
I, unlike you, can go where I please. Nature doesn't reject me, unlike your unnatural ass.

>>44785827
Council's streamers aren't really similar to Myth at all. You made this post last time and it still doesn't make any sense. E.g. you compared Ina to Fauna but in reality the only thing they share is time slot. They're not really similar in personality or streaming style. Same for your other comparisons if you look at it past a surface level.
Bleed happens because that's what happens in a box. Hell, just look at HoloJP. People don't only bleed to streamers who are like them.

>>44786221
you missed the new one

https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/11o5rz3/thought_this_meme_fit_them/

>>44784667
Yeah, she had her fanbase promote themselves to Null and Metokur.

>>44786127
Isn't she perfect? Fuck NijiEN. She's best suited for HoloENs

>>44786258
Before you samefag, it's just one flipnigger being assblasted at the kino micomet stream we just got.

>>44786182
>but little social life outside the internet.
Hmm I wonder if you could have deduced that that was what I meant using the context of the conversation? Or is your IQ too low for that?

>>44784098
Watch Kronii it's half her content.

>>44785105
This is the real deal Gura killer. All she needs is the blue dorito

>>44785104
Overlapping other Hololive girls is Ame's Yabba Dabba Do moment.

>>44786221
>>44786297
look at the upvote/comment ratio, clearly botted

>>44786070
Not answering the questions and instead looking for round about ways to make jabs is a Nijinigger behaviour it's something pinoys do and we all know a lot of Nijiniggers are pinoy.

>>44786258
>Why does this thread hate someone with bad numbers and is a proven numberpoison to Miko?

>>44785442
I will shit on Kiara at any chance I can but only I am allowed to shit on her

>>44786335
lol like clockwork: >>44786444

>>44786203

>>44786221
>>44786297
i cant see shit

>>44785074
Do we even know how much money both of them makes

It is funny that of all the SEA countries Indogs only pick fights with Pignoise.

>>44786258
Not a samefag but Suisei ruined Miko's soul. Her streams were so much more soulful when she was still with Pekora.

Will this impact vtubers sc numbers?
>>>/biz/54023757

>>44786068
Bad, and not really no

>>44786221
They aren't ever subtle with this shit either, they literally have a plethora of homolovers yet they keep targeting my IRyS still. I'm glad she doesn't use that garbage site.

Bizarro universe.

>>44785601
Topkek

>>44786519
Losing 35% in one year isn't bad.

what are the chances that there's something actually wrong with CCV atm? these numbers are fucking abysmal. Lui is on 2k as well

>Suisei is successf-ACK!

>>44786800
2k does seem much lower than usual even for Hogwarts Legacy.

>>44786800
Lui is the least subscribed member in the whole JP branch, are we supposed to be surprised when she gets bad numbers?

>>44786808
>cropping the PH part this time

>>44786800
Lui's stream fucking died. Also you literally can't say that when this is also going on

>>44783479
Are you actually retarded? that's the expected number for a third outfit. If anything its more than we expected, which was about 15k, like Finana.

>>44786612
we have a good guess for both of them
Kaela won an ID award for the most superchatted ID streamer, also her chat is very green = high membership, meanwhile Kobos chat is almost exclusively grey
Also having massive amount of vods like Kaela means high amount of ad revenue

https://youtu.be/Ihl98aML1qw
AAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>44786741
b-but Irys...Kiara... the saviors of CGDCT...

>>44786800
mayo dog has 13k for some 1986 year old game tho

>>44785372
Hololive is more popular

>>44786800
IRyS CCV is bugged lately

>>44786808
Moonlightspeed is so fucking good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI8KqzCvFsc

>>44786741
The only explanation is that Gura is hiding the recline of HoloEN by pumping up the average, but as long as she doesn't stream, all the facade came off.

>>44786800
It's not the CCV that's the issue, it's the notification system
>>44786927
I mean...Kiara and Bae getting bad numbers isn't anything new either but people were having a meltdown

>>44786612
>only $26k in one month where her cut is maybe $8k

>>44786988
>kiara cgdct
come on man

>>44786932
That pinoy retard wasn't me

>>44786764
AND OTHER HILARIOUS JOKES NIJINIGGERS TELL THEMSELVES

>>44786297
I know the bots shit is stupid but every Tempus/Holo meme gets boosted to the top. Shit is funky as fuck

>>44786350
Words have meaning and “hikki” has a very specific meaning that is as far away from the typical nip live streaming audience as possible.
If you’re not articulate enough to properly put your thoughts in words don’t complain that people can’t make up for your shortcomings.
Also: being edgy and excessively brash is a piss poor way to try to fit in, it actually makes you look like a fresh off the boat newfag emulating what you believe typical imageboard behavior is.

>>44787118
t.pinoy retard

>>44786800
Kek, EN coping hard.

>>44787089
I would love to play video games for 8k a month.

>>44787118
Sure wasn't flipchama

>>44787105
She fits all the criteria but you shitposting faggots don't lump her in because of her bad numbers since it doesn't fit your agenda. Is IRyS next on the chopping block?

>>44787041
>Watched Ame's stream, ccv counter bugged, stream runs smoothly
>Watching Irys right now, ccv counter fixed, but stream is lagged.
Neal...

Irys numbers are getting worse because me and my fellow cratbros stopped watching her and switched to cute girls like Mumei and Fauna. Glad I made the choice to ditch Irys.

>>44787105
I don't know man, I am not the one making the images of her with irys gura fauna and >mumei

>>44786808
You finally learned to crop huh?

>>44785372
You do know HoloJP basically qualifies for the top 50 or 30 streamers on Twitch and literally mog every female streamer outside Amouranth right? Their not XQC or Asmon who regularly get 50-70k on the regular but they would still be top dogs in streaming overall.

>>44787118
>that resolution
Hard to believe you're not one

>>44787193
Kiara is a stacy who ruins streams. You cant get cgdct when all the other fans hate the fuck out of her.

>>44786764
How much would be?

>>44786948
playing ancient obscure games is buff content for JPs

Don't look at Selen's numbers.

>>44787165
>>44787186
>>44787220
>Everyone who points out Suisei has bad number without hololive is the pinoy
Kys

>>44786653
Zero, but that made me think about VShojo and whether their backers in that 11M funding wouldn’t be hurting for return on their investment now that SV imploded.

>>44787123
Learn the market. There are ups and downs all the time and this lowering is only helping in the long run by flushing bad investors out. Think it terms of years, not day.

>>44786616
Maybe only in internet, in real life Malaysian.

>>44786800
Something has been off since around the beginning of February. I don't know if it's an algorithm change or something else but numbers for HoloEN, specifically the CounilRyS girls, took a noticeable hit around that time.

man I remember shitposting about Pippa breaking 4 digits just like some months ago and using it to dunk on low tier nijiEN kek, shes still slowly clawing her trailer trash ass up its impressive.

>>44786800
Come the fuck on Pomu had almost 20k.

>>44787270
>Kiara is a stacy who ruins streams.
Literally IRyS in group collabs as well.

>>44786800
Is fuckingndog shit content. Lui is still
>all streming the same shit they have been streming for months
Could at least try to collab togheter or at least play minecraft or try a new game everytime.
Anotjer hitman, another holocure were she will play the same charcter, shitty ass fir emblem and then you have debuffson voice

>>44786950
lmao suuuure

>>44787193
>she fits the criteria
except she isn't cute and doesn't do cute things.
if you believe this, i think you should go back to your kfp hugbox in /hlgg/

>>44787211
You do realize that's an image used exclusively for shitposting, right?

>>44787298
Unironically yes, follow your own advice

>>44787289
perfect time for another Selen vs. Pippa thread in the catalog this time its not even a close call like other threads had.

>>44787270
>Kiara is a stacy who ruins streams
What even is a stacy?

>mumei about to start too
Damn we gonna have 4-5 people getting mogged by pippa at this rate~

>>44787298
pinoy seethe

>>44787301
nahone
they will scam the retarded k-on again

>>44787311
They lost the konfrontasi and never won against Malaysia since then.

>>44787125
meanwhile normal homo posts get almost no upvotes and bad ratios
really makes you think

G
R
I
M

>>44787298
Prove your not a flip coward

>>44787306
This. Once it hits a convergent point we will see the real health of the company, None of these prices are real until then.

>>44787068
Gura, Ina and Fauna still get good numbers. Rest... yeah

>>44787306
This isn't crypt, droping by 35% in a single year is not normal

For reference the stock market during the great depression fell 20%

>>44787301
it was venture capital, but i'm pretty clueless to what's the implications from that

just watched ver (zaion genmate) and he pretty much says she deserved it and it wasnt an injustice. He's also blacklisting her name from his chat. Seems like her genmates tried to convince her to change and they fought against her to try to convince her to not do shit again. Honestly when you own genmates are like this i cant really believe the 4chan narrative, while with yugo no one spoke badly of him.

>>44787298
>t.filthypino
Having a moodswing cuz u haven't eaten your pagpag yet?,

This thread laughs at NijiEN and Nijiniggers for their declining numbers but they are ignoring the fact HoloEN is also declining I mean sure they are still the top dogs but it doesn't change the fact that they declining.

>>44787298
>hyperfocusing on her sidegig for the shittiest gotcha he'll ever get on suisei
why this pinoy so retarded?