/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Western women try not to be lazy procrastinating bitches challenge. Yagoo needs to whip them with a cord until they learn to actually take their obligations seriously

Sleep is a need and theyve been running on 1-2hrs sleep in some cases. They're overworked and need to rest for the big day in 10 minutes.

>in b4 they don't stream so how are they overworked

I blame Mori.

>>44355859
>Hi, I'm back
From Indonesia?
>I know the deadline's already over
So Kiara was the one that caused it to be overdue but she's blaming others? What?

>>44356099
Was Kiara fully rested?

>>44355859
that's cool and everything but I'm not giving her a view

>>44355859
It's really unprofessional how Kiara goes out of her way to publicly shit on her coworkers all the time.

>>44355859
>Myth
>unity

i am so lazy i don't even get out of bed all day so i don't judge them especially since they actually finished all of their stuff. it seems like it was a nothingburger anyways since they all just recorded it the next day like they said they would. why would kiara even bring this up?

>>44356099
Could be Kiara's German "work work work" blood getting in the way. Or they could be lazybums.
I don't really fault any of them. I've worked on big projects in the past and your mind and talent really deteriorate if you're tired.
Either way, they should plan out for this eventuality instead of leaving it to the day of

Not giving Kiara a view. Why did she go home at 11PM when she apparently had shit to do?

>>44355859
>recording
>at 11pm
ogey then

>>44356099
>in b4 they don't stream so how are they overworked
Would be a valid argument if they put out anything else of not, but it's not just no streams, there's as no music or projects from half of them either

>>44356273
This, but I admit I’m enjoying this kind of drama as well.
>hey, we all can’t put up with this tyranny anymore, right? Let the despot see the power of the people, democracy!
>ok, if that’s the way you choose, I’ll ask the public and have them who’s the right one. Btw the media is in my hand.
But I think it’s partially the fault of you /vt/ anons as well.
It’s because you’ve been bullying her in public since even before her debut, even her staffs thought it was ok to annoy Kiara or even encouraged.
Poor Kiara. Doesn’t she hold the hiring/firing authority of her staffs like managers in US companies?

>>44356219
she was ill - she had to rest

>>44356482
I don't know

Myth unity is dead and buried, I wish managment stopped forcing them to collab, they clearly don't like each other. We need Council 3d debut and gen 3 to debut so they can form their own friend groups like in JP.

>>44356304
germans hate lazy people.

>>44358275
if you just watched the Hololive 3D colab you can stfu now

>>44355859
>blames others for her own mistakes

This is honestly kind of insane. No way Kiara is painting the full story unless the other girls really are this unprofessional. And I appreciate Kaira for sharing this info with us but honestly this is something that should be talked about internally. How are the other girls gonna feel if they see this clip? Does Kiara not understand that this makes everyone look bad? Is she sharing this because she is more comfortable sharing with chat than management her issues, even though management is supposedly gonna hear about this later? I have so many question marks. I also wonder who was the girl that said she was tired and wanted to move the recording in the first place. Why wouldnt she reach out to Kiara directly to ask? What the heck is going on here?

>>44369941
It's not even a clip so I stopped reading your blog

>>44356273
I may think Kiara is offensive at times and I disagree with her on many many things but I gotta give it to her, she knows she got the tardwrangling role in EN and she played the part.
EN management too incompetent to keep these girls on a hard leash, we're better off having Kiara show those dirty laundry once in a while as a good reminder of the fact.

>>44370916
Ame was on 2 hours sleep, others got little sleep at times. All this was, was a story of her past night. She's not shitting on them.

>>44369941
Kiara was with the NijiEN girls that whole time and then remembered they had a recording.

>>44356207
She was back from her evening with the Niji girls you dumb faggot. She was home from Indonesia for at least a week. She cut her time with the Niji girls short so she could record on time.

>>44371149
Okay who the fuck said they had 2 hours of sleep? And how can you believe them?

>>44371149
And who's fault is that if that even was the case?

>>44371219
Kiara was with NijiEN, as planned, cut it short and came back to the Myth house in time to discover that they all went to sleep.
Provided that she had internet she could have stayed with the NijiEN and go Karaoke. But she cut it short for nothing.

I love the girls don’t get me wrong. But their laziness keep being an issue again and again. I don’t know how Kiara can keep dealing with this shit. Thank god I don’t have to work with them and only have to watch.

>>44371149
gonna cry? man the fuck up. so watson gets two hours of sleep one night. drink some coffee and grow a pair. faggot.

>>44371887
Their lack of sleep has been a constant in Japan through their posts, it doesn't hurt to have compassion for them doing their jobs to entertain. Get your head out of your ass and be appreciative.

>>44366053
It was pretty obvious that, aside from Mori and Kiara, these girls aren't performers.

From my own experience, this shit takes weeks of practice to perform at a shit level, so I can imagine how much they have to practice to even get to a level where they can barely keep up with Kiara.

>>44371348
So she made everyone schedule a recording session at 11pm (probably later, since that was just when she got home) so she can fuck around with niji's? And then decided to whine about it on stream rather than dealing with it behind the scenes professionally, even if she was in the right? And this is supposed to make me like Kiara?

>>44371430
multiple posts in their members only feeds plus stories on stream

you obviously didnt see the collab at mori's where they all mentioned how little sleep they had (gura actually fell asleep there and was clearly irritable)


>>44371455
covercorp

>>44356273
No, it's really based how Kiara goes out of her way to point out the unprofessional behavior of her coworkers. You'd have to be completely retarded to look at Kiara being professional, then look at the rest of Myth frequently being unprofessional, and somehow conclude that she's the one who's out of line.

>>44372292
exactly, Ame in particular was sleeping little and streaming and getting up to par. I feel for her, she's working her ass off. Of course they get the benefits of the job but it isn't a cakewalk that a lot of people make it out to be.

>>44372154
Again these are not fucking children. These are adults who should have the most basic functions of adult life down - Namely sleeping regularly. Fucking Ina went on her break SPECIFICALLY to fix her sleep schedule and here she is 4-5 months later still pulling this shit. Fuck compassion and fuck Ina for not changing.

>>44372292
Is this picture AI-generated? It's extremely offputting.

Where did all these KFP wumaos come out from?
Is this sabotage also what chairman Kiara said you to do?

>>44372628
Ame looks more like Iroha.
Gura has a full grown body while her face is 5yo.

>>44372677
Your Oshi is an irresponsible fucking cunt and she has no capacity to change. Deal with it.

>>44369941
Do you think she hasn't complained to management before? It's useless, management is completely impotent.

At this stage is like managing an unruly rockstar, if they don't behave, there is nothing management can do. What are they going to do? Sack them? Yell at them? Discount their paycheck?

They can't afford to antagonize them because fans will always side with the girls.

What Kiara should do is stop giving a fuck, and let HoloEN crash and burn, fuck company loyalty. She is damaging her own image with these rants and with the tard wrangling, and nobody appreciates it.

wait so they made the decision *for* kiara without her input? what if she had shit to do the next day.

>>44372569
It's covercorp and there overbooking of the talent

That's who's at fault here. Not Ina or the other girls. The fact that Kiara is a workhorse and still got ill should prove this.

>>44355859
This is why the Germans got firebombed

>>44372839
the girls resent her bossing them around and exposing them.
The fans see her as annoying, controlling, and jealous. The simps also resent her for exposing their Oshis as lazy and unprofessional.
The only ones set to benefit from this are the incompetent managers that now have someone to do their work for them, but Kiara gains nothing from helping them, Cover would dump her into the garbage in a heartbeat if they find it convinient, companies have no loyalty.

Why does she do it? Maybe it's her German culture? Maybe she feels embarrassed by the girls and is afraid that the Japanese will think all westerners are unprofessional. Who knows.

I don't have much sympathy for the le tired excuse. Ame said she's been playing a lot of Stardew Valley off-stream, even 7hrs in one day, so who knows what dumb shit the others are also doing all night instead of sleeping.
Making the decision themselves and then not even telling management was the real dick move though

>>44372839
>She is damaging her own image with these rants and with the tard wrangling, and nobody appreciates it.
>own image
Anon, Kiara is nothing without holo EN.

Why in the first place there’s no manager, I mean the person who shows up at the beginning of recording and supervises it until the end? Is this normal in Japanese companies?

>>44372980
>It's covercorp and there overbooking of the talent
>That's who's at fault here
Wrong. Ina, Ame, Gura, and Mori were at fault. They decided to ignore the deadline and do it the next day without even bothering to notify management or Kiara. And then Kiara was the one who had to explain the situation and apologize on their behalf because they fucked off to sleep without telling anybody.

>>44373297
>the girls resent her bossing them around and exposing them
>source:the voices in my head
>The fans see her as annoying, controlling, and jealous
>source: it was revealed to me in a dream

>>44373409
>Kiara is nothing without holo EN
Myth can't function as a group without Kiara.

>>44373933
Nigga she went home at 11 pm they were doing that shit past the deadline regardless

>>44373672
Not everything is recorded in a studio. The EN girls are particularly accustomed to this since they’re all over the world. The manager simply set a dead line and the girls have to record on their own setups.
Waiting for the deadline and a reminder from management to do the recording is already bad. But making Kiara cut her Nijisanji party night short, not recording shit, going over the deadline and leaving Kiara do the talk to management is even worse.

I love Myth, I love their personality and stream content. But god how fucking lazy can they be?

>>44374042
>she went home at 11 pm
She went home at the planned time. If they didn’t want to record at 11pm, maybe they should have recorded it sooner.

>>44374231
Yeah, why didn't they?

>>44374089
Is it really that hard to assign one person to check the schedule of each girl and make sure everything is going right?
Or why don’t they use outlook and Microsoft teams instead of discord even when they’re grownup adults?

>>44374462
>Is it really that hard to assign one person to check the schedule of each girl and make sure everything is going right?
Anon..... They have people doing that. They all have a personal manager and those managers have a manager.
>Or why don’t they use outlook and Microsoft teams
They have a planning on a Google calendar. The way they use discord isn’t even that stupid. They have a private group for each topic with only the relevant people. But when you know that 90% of the member have the notifications off, you starts to understand...

>>44374462
see >>44372839
They are wealthy, lazy, and their fans don't hold them accountable.
Cover can try to hold them to a normal working adult standard but there isn't much the company can do when EN as a whole is walking all over them.

The obvious solution here is to just isolate Kiara. That way everyone is happy

>>44372628
No, just too much photoshop and filter

>>44374646
>>44374842
Ok so Cover needs to outsource the management section to kson. China won't notice.

>>44374860
>Isolate Kiara
>the others stream even less because Kiara is the only one that can get them off their ass and force them to do group projects
Genius plan.

It sounds like Holomyth needs a leader that will push them but most importantly also has their respect. Kiara pushes them but she doesn't have their respect for her authority. I thought Jenma was super beloved, and could possibly play thay role.

>>44375126
Yeah, that's the plan.

>>44373933
>Myth can't function as a group without Kiara.
Good. Unity fags get the rope.

>>44375126
Chumbuddies and Takodachis won't mind.

>>44356273
I'll agree to this, but is this a culture difference? She's painfully german

>>44374860
>If we take away the only adult in the room everything will be better
Yeah sure, definitely.

>>44374860
They already did that. What do you think the months where no one would collab with her besides ID, some of council and Mori were?
This is not a new thing, Kiara complained about this before back in september and she even complained months before that during the time no one was streaming and she was the only myth girl actually working.

>>44375457
They should keep doing it then. The other fanbases clearly dont give a shit

>>44375433
He's right though. The girls don't want to be told what to do, many of them don't even like streaming. The most hardcore fans will never abandon their Oshi, no matter if they never stream or collab,

>>44374089
>But god how fucking lazy can they be?
Very. Symptom of having success fall in their laps through zero effort and a cuck fanbase that will let them off the hook for anything short of saying "fuck niggers" on stream

>>44375632
I wish they did. Kiara probably would have become crazy enough that we could have gotten her to play whatever game we wanted.

>Kiara talks about her day with the niji girls and how she had to cut it short because of a recording that didn't happen
>this is a big fuck up on her part, how dare she throw her co-workers under the bus

You're all genuinely crazy. None of the other girls care. Most normal functional beings would say, wow that's unlucky for Kiara but shit happens. The only people seething here are you fucking weird obsessed schizos who want to paint her as the villain no matter what she does or what others do. I genuinely hope you disgusting cum sucking monkey die a painful death.

>>44376028
Fuck are you on about? Half this thread is shitting on the rest of myth for being lazy

Myth reminds me of Sex pistols and Kiara is John Lydon in 2023.

>>44376028
Anon its the middle of the night. Most of the people shitting on Kiara are either SEA or just the usual late night trolls. Had this thread been made about 7 hours from now it would have people shitting on how lazy the girls are and probably talking about how great Nijisanji is.

>>44376102
and the other half are saying she shouldn't have said anything because it makes the rest of Myth look bad.
It's so stupid because it's mostly a harmless story. The takeaway shouldn't be anger anybody or that it's drama for the sake of drama.

I blame Ina

>>44376292
You're right that it's a pointless story so why aren't you shitting on the other girls? Your victim complex runs deep bro

Girls brought up outside the US culture:
>Kiara
>Bae
>HoloID

Then there’s Ina, Kronii, Fauna, not really sure how to group the Canadians, but can you at least see the difference with the girls who live or were born in the US? (count Irys there)

It’s unironically because they’re Americans, the laziest motherfuckers you can ever work with.

>>44376433
>>44376433
>so why aren't you shitting on the other girls
Because there's no reason to? It's unfortunate that it happened to cut Kiara's day short but the story itself doesn't sound terrible to make me hate any of the girls, especially if they had already fallen asleep by the time Kiara told management. It's pointless drama to either shit on the other girls to call them lazy or to shit on Kiara for "being rude"

I heard in Japanese (and probably korean as well) idol industries employers treat girls so abusively that they believe they are actually worthless pieces of shit and lose their own wills.
So is it necessary evil?

>>44376859
I mistyped there. What I'm saying is that you're blatanlty ignoring pro Kiara shitposts like the one above yours because you have a victim complex

>>44377191
I'm not, I literally said "The takeaway shouldn't be anger"
Her sharing the story isn't a bad thing regardless of what your pre-existing feeling towards Kiara are, sub-human chama.

>>44376624
It's not American vs European work culture, it's just kiara. It's known that Europeans are more relaxed than Americans, with their many vacations, long lunches and siestas, etc. The difference is that Kiara was desperate to work in Japan and hololive saved her. If you read her interview, she was stuck in Japan during covid on a once in a lifetime work visa, but she was stuck at home. She was distraught. Applying to hololive was a gift from God basically and shes putting in her hardest out of gratefulness but also out of fear and her insecurities of being kicked out to the curb again. The other girls lived in privilege and/or comfort, and do not share Kiara's sense of desperation toward their hololive work.

>>44355859
If there was ever an event that could validate Kiara's complete emotional abandonment of Myth, this is most definitely it

>>44377323
Don't see any of that here >>44376028 my dude.

>>44356273
>Skipping out on deadlines, hiding or withholding info from management, assuming someone else will handle your affairs
>Totally fine
>Going on your platform to air your grievances
>Wtf unprofessional as fuck
If this was ID or Council girls, i promise you every single one of them would be doing the Marine/Miko publically apology before getting a 1 week suspension and free business meeting for the Cover Janitors

You guys are making it sound like it matters that it was at 11pm. You think anyone of them actually follow proper sleep schedules??? I'm assuming the plan was to record for a couple hours to finish it and then sleep but they prioritized sleep rather than work.

Also it's been well established that all the girls are super bad about deadlines. Kiara even stated that she had to lie about hers for the advent calendar so that she would actually get it done on time. I think they all have the worst work ethics out of everyone. I think even council generally does better since I hear less about rushing to do work from them.

>>44377635
>Kiara even stated
in which stream?
Anyways it reminds me of a school project in middle school.

>>44377635
where is the weed and anti-weed image when you need it...

>>44377635
Mori, Connor told you a hundred times not to post /here/

>>44374042
no excuse for not notifying management (or heck even Kiara) and just silently going to bed
anyone who supports this behaviour is a literal sociopath... oh wait this is 4chan

>>44376624
It's sweet to imagine Kiara ranting how Americans are inferior in hardcore Germany slamming the table and waving her fists over her head.

>>44377977
I can't believe 4/5 of myth are sociopaths. Kiara should stop hanging out with them. Not a joke btw she really should. ID seems to like her more.

>>44371149
How hard was it for just one of them to send a message to management during the talk they had about the recording, it didn't have to come to Kiara to carry it out but it did anyway, that's why she's the tardwrangler.
I didn't say she was shitting on them, that's not at all how she does tardwrangling, it was more on Management to blame for the fuck up scheduling and keeping contact for the projects.

>>44377809
She talks about it here for like 10 minutes.
https://youtu.be/9jXJgsGDwks?t=776

>>44356292
In sleep, unity

>>44372569

'fuck Ina for not fixing her sleep schedule'

Ina goes to bed at 11pm so she can be awake in the morning

Wow, how irresponsible.

>>44356292
Yes.

>This thread successfully made me believe Kiara is the only Myth having the sense of responsibility and the victim of other lazy girls straight out of toxic gamer community knowing nothing but cussing the society and each other and neglecting social norms and their duties without any specific reason.
What a propaganda war.

>>44378231
I don't think you understand just how little they care about Kiara, Hololive and the fans. Gura and Ina couldn't give a single fuck about anything. Ame used to care about things, but I think that stopped the last year.
Mori cares about deadbeats, or at least about a subset of them, and maybe a bit about Kiara, she is just irresponsible and unprofessional.

>>44379479
No. Fauna and Bae are definitely also responsible and professional, maybe Irys and Mumei too.
Ins is punctual and responsible as an Illustrator.

>>44356273
ME ME ME

>>44375336
that would be very flattering to germans and would fit into the stereotype but I honestly can't imagine behaviour like this would fly in much of the world even in a casual setting.
Postponing is one thing but then not informing the other party is highly unprofessional.

>>44356099
then discuss it with management for fucks sake. It isn't that hard.
>Hey I've had 5 hours sleep in the last 48 hours. I need to sleep and can't record stuff right now.
You do realize that they potentially wasted hours of other people's time by making them waiting for them right? And if it weren't for Kiara picking up their slack it would've been considerably worse. Thats rude by itself but those people were also on a payroll. No exaggeration they've could've potentially wasted a few thousand USD by not informing anyone.

>>44356273
No, she should do it some more. Their job is to stream and sometimes record stuff and they treat it like they have to mix a bunch of cement outside using shovels and in the middle of a summer heatwave. They press the STREAM NOW PLS button in OBS and sometimes they need to record stuff by a certain day, that's literally all they do and they somehow find it way too much and that's fucking bullshit, they don't get a pass 2 years and some months into this shit.

>>44372407
Here's the thing, Kiara is unlikeable and no amount of professionalism is going to make me watch her. Gura and Ame can stream once a year and I'd cum watching them and maybe even drop a superchat or two. I may not fully support these lazybums but god damn i'll pick them over Kiara any time of the day simply because they're charismatic
I'm watching to have fun and enjoy not to make my ears bleed over some egomaniac.

>>44381788
BASEDchama...

>>44381788
based.

>>44381788
HOLY FUCKING BASED

>>44381788
I kneel

>>44381788
HOLY FUCKING BASED

https://streamable.com/rzax14

>>44381788
Ultrabased

>>44382074
Kiwawa... Still not watching her though

>>44381788
based. eggs are cracking

>>44376624
americans have the same reputation for (stupidly) working themselves to the bone as asian countries. it's a place where the 40 hour work week is seen as a bare minimum and many have to work two jobs at the same time to earn enough to pay rent.

>>44381788
I'd believe Kiara is hardworking had she chose to shut up about it. But it honestly only seems like she makes it sound like she's hardworking by updating her fans constantly (something other myths rarely do) then proceed to make vague statements that would make the other girls look bad. I don't care if they're lazy, talking shit on your coworkers doesn't look or sound appealing. Only people with brain damage would be fine with her doing this, and they'd have to be pretty committed to Kiara's bulshit.

>>44377424
that's Kiara's problem and only saviorfags would fall for it. She's still unwatchable.
>The other girls lived in privilege and/or comfort, and do not share Kiara's sense of desperation toward their hololive work
That's because they actually have something to work with. Calli being decently talented at making music (i'm not a fan). Gura being mega charismatic. Ina appealing to the fuckin goldmine that just wanna fuckin chill and Ame,
Ame is unironically the true hardworker. Can't sing but sounds fucking adorable trying. Makes lots of events but never fucking bitches about it like Kiara. Doesn't try to take any credit like the Kiara. and absolutely down to fucking earth while Kiara's flying on the gutters.

Kiara needs to work hard, and her talent is to put other people down. I wouldn't be surprised if she's one of the eggs here defending herself hard. She needs to do it. And honestly she should just embrace being the mega bitch she is. I can respect her if she goes full NijiEN. She can earn my spite that way and maybe I'll hatewatch her. But until she drops her "i belong to hololive and I deserve this" act. I won't even give her a single view

>>44381788
Good cope. Can't wait for the next 30 thread you're going to make crying because the lazy shark doesn't give a fuck about streaming and all the meltdowns you're going to get when they continue laughing at you

>>44382810
Are KFPs the ones making the Gura bait threads?

>>44355859
It's why I've been having so much trouble making an EN my oshi, it feels like most of them just have no respect for idol culture at all. They just want to get a few paypiggies and stream once a month.

>all these hs essays

>>44382810
I'm not one of the few turbo maniacs she has. She can go fuck her boyfriend as much as she wants, I will still watch her especially her karaokes. She's a fun streamer to watch, Kiara isn't. Get over it

>>44382903
this thread is not for the illiterate, door's that way

>>44382758
>>44381788
>>44382910
EN fags scares me sometimes. It was wise for us to wage wars with these based retards

>>44383095
>NOT* to wage war

I MADE A FUCKING MISTAKE, SPARE ME EN CHADS

Dont complain about your coworkers to the public, complain to management.
Try being professional and not dragging people through the mud for a crumb of pity clout

>>44383211
>try being professional
yeah the rest of myth should try that instead of blowing off management.

>>44383277
the rest of the myth is holding EN branch altogether, it's only right that management should kneel to then. Kiara may lick their boots if she wants, she needs to that to stay relevant in the company

>>44355859
Me Me Meara strikes again

>>44383277
>T-they shit the bed now I get to shit the bed too!
Retard

>>44371691
Sounds like they got tired of waiting on Kiara. Who tf does recording shit at 11 pm. Also why does she have to wait until then to communicate do they not have phones with phone signals?

>>44355859
>I know the deadline's already over but is it okay if we do it tomorrow, first thing tomorrow?"
So the deadline is the next day and she came back from her date with other company girl at 11pm.. right… i think kiara is in the wrong in this one. It’s midnight and most are already sleeping. Should have come home around noon instead of 1 hour before deadline.

>>44383211
>try being professional
You mean like how the girls acted like they were still in high school by leaving an assignment till the deadline then failing the deadline because they were tired? Only difference being these aren't 14 year old girls dealing with boring maths class they're fully adult women treating a high paying job like it's boring math class. It's truly pathetic.
You can tell who here has had a job and who hasn't based on who shits on the bird and who doesn't. Same people bitching about the orange woman would be in an eternal state of seething and malding if they had to work with the types of people the rest of Myth is.

>>44383612
>So the deadline is the next day and she came back from her date with other company girl at 11pm.. right… i think kiara is in the wrong in this one. It’s midnight and most are already sleeping. Should have come home around noon instead of 1 hour before deadline.
She said in the video that she was at dance lesson before her dinner, so she basically did Work -> Go to eat -> Home

>>44358424
Gotta quit the drama anon, also vt want from hating to liking her for her hard work (not her voice though)

>>44355859
How is this not her fault in the first place?
And who the fuck records at 11pm? Whose idea was it? that's so fucking dumb

>>44386568
Doesn't matter, it was the agreed upon time and the others blew it off without informing her nor the management.
If they had an issue with it maybe communicate it earlier like a well adjusted, professional adult?
Yeah that's asking too much from those 4

>>44386658
Ok anon you need to chill

>>44386710
NO YOU NEED TO CHILL AAAIIIIIEEEEE

>>44383131
Nope, you gotta rope now

>>44356273
Its really unprofessional how everyones work ethic is so shit that she has these stories to tell in the first place

>>44382810
Cool cool, if Kiara was the only one in EN streaming then I just wouldn't watch EN

>>44381788
Based.

>>44356273
This poster believes in „le en curse“
Laugh at him

They've all been pretty busy
>Ina is hanging out with senpai and getting raped by me
>Gura is stuck in Okayu's sex dungeon and getting raped by me
>Mori is drunk again
>Ame can't stop eating cake and getting raped by me
>Kiara is working hard in the studio and getting raped by me
Everything will be back to normal after 4th fest

>>44387232
>Mori is drunk again
and having her ass eaten by me

>Suddenly /vt/ thinks that shitting on coworkers in public is good and professional

>>44356273
that's how she is

>>44387450
>NOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST SAY YOUR COWORKERS ACTED UNPROFESSIONAL WHEN THEY ACTED UNPROFESSIONAL
Kek the mental gymnastics eggs go to in order to make everything Kiara's fault

>>44387866
Whatever you say KFP

>>44387866
Frankly, Kiara is the one forcing these lazy pieces of shit to shape up somewhat. Her sickness arc is why Ina suddenly showed her face again after zero communication for months. If you promise Kiara something and don't do it, she will bluntly tell chat about it so you better fucking do it.

>>44381788
>Kiara is unlikeable
Of all the things you could say this is the most factually incorrect and the most retarded. Very impressive

You can shit on her all you want, at the end of day she streams the most and is the most serious about her job, yes she has a right to call out others and yes they should take her example.

Seeing KFP blindly believe every single white woman narrative Kiara spews out is fucking pathetic
I'm sure this totally happened exactly this way and she very much didn't spin the issue juuuust a little to make it seem like she's poor chimkin who works very hard while my coworkers are super lazybums, please pity me chat

>>44388128
Was Kiara likeable when she started that racial shit on stream, first making the race joke and then forcing Mori to just brace herself and let Kiara go off on her weird skin color comparison tangent when she was in Indonesia?
Kiara is actually the most like Kronii in being autistic but somehow even dumber than Kronii is and less self-aware.
Anon would find this stupidity likeable though.

>>44388025
There's no way to make Kiara the badguy when she was the only one acting professional and the rest of Myth decided to just ignore a deadline without telling anyone because they were tired. You're grasping at straws.

>>44388557
>Was Kiara likeable when she started that racial shit on stream, first making the race joke and then forcing Mori to just brace herself and let Kiara go off on her weird skin color comparison tangent when she was in Indonesia?
You mean when she told a cute story about how Kobo reacted to her on stream? That how you interpreted that? What the fuck is wrong with you, what a psychotic way to describe something so mundane.

>>44355859
real pro move kiara real pro, she got
"kiara gonna talk" label on her forhead.

>>44378353
Go back

>>44388434
>egg malding because Kiara did something right
>again
You love to see it
>poor chimkin who works very hard while my coworkers are super lazybums
>Myth streams in the last 7 days
>Ame: 0
>Gura: 1
>Ina: 0
>Mori: 5
>Kiara: 5
The numbers speak for themselves.

>>44388557
>Was Kiara likeable when she started that racial shit on stream, first making the race joke and then forcing Mori to just brace herself and let Kiara go off on her weird skin color comparison tangent when she was in Indonesia?
None of that ever happened, Anonchama. You're hallucinating.

>>44388693
>Literal Karen vtuber treats "exotic" third world people as playthings and marvels at their innocence in this cruel world.
You really gonna defend Kiara channeling her ancestors' love of "noble savage" tropes here anon?

>>44389360
Since you're so addicted to numbers, wanna count the number of times Kiara bitched about her coworkers compared to the other ENs? I'll help.
>Mori : 0
>Ame : 0
>Gura : 0
>Ina : 0
>Kiara :

>>44388557
>Kobo unapologetically being an cute autist and said all her thoughts out loud
>Kiara repeated what Kobo said saying how innocent and cute she was
>Anon somehow twisted it into a race thing and how Kiara forced Mori into playing along
Go back to /pol/ or neck yourself on the way there, we already had /pol/ threads almost all week long

Kiara is in fact a raging racist and that's based. Why are KFPs here trying to whitewash that?

>>44388693
Kobo's reacting might of been cute on stream but later Kiara's twisted explanation made it unbearable to watch/listen to and Mori couldn't do anything but wince hearing about it

>>44389800
>a raging racist
What makes you think so?

>>44388581
>There's no way to make Kiara the badguy when she was the only one acting professional
The fact she shared this with the public doesn't paint her in a good light. All I get from this is that they're an unprofessional bunch, including Kiara. It's none of our business to know every little thing that goes on behind the scenes, especially if it's nothing burgers like this that was resolved in the end. Sharing stories that make your colleagues look bad, even if that wasn't your intention, is still unprofessional no matter how you slice it or dice it.

>>44389911
>and Mori couldn't do anything but wince hearing about it
Yeah, this was especially apparent. She could only say,
>I know where this is going.
And let Kiara cook because she was pretty much trapped in this conversation.

>>44389928
Her calling indos "monkeys" (they are) and calling for a solution to jewish "problem".(it is a problem)

>>44378265
thanks for the timestamp.

>>44389968
>slice or dice
Why type a paragraph if you’re just gonna be cringe at the end?

>>44389968
It's not a problem. The rest of the box will just continue to not watch Kiara and KFPs can continue calling her friends lazy whores.

>>44355859
>>44356099
Yeah kiara is the only one in myth with a work ethic because she's germanoid and culturally basically japanese.
Western bitches are lazybones, kiara is the outlier here.

>>44390034
Ok I'm gonna check the stream.
But in the world of V, Japanese are called "chimps" as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_ImRvs2vaY

>>44389360
>Myth streams in the last 7 days
>Ame: 0
Lol retard

>>44390291
>niji clip
Not watching even if it's Gibara but sure. You forgot what site you're on?

>>44390105
You're not wrong I guess, as long as nobody decides to clip it, it will be forgotten in a few days.

>>44388557
You're a fucking retard by the way. I thought you should be aware.

>>44381788
if this is considered "based" then are we actually watching same Hololive as EOPs?
Holy shit,

>>44389911
>Kiara's twisted explanation made it unbearable to watch/listen to and Mori couldn't do anything but wince hearing about it
>twisted
The only thing twisted here anon is your brain not on heavy medication. It was so mundane that literally only the most demented poltards on this board actually brought it up past the stream.
Everyone who was watching knew where it was heading and no one thought twice about it, because it was not racially driven, you really need to get off the propaganda circus.

>>44355859
>EN is permanently burned out
>let's send them all to a foreign country for intensive work
>they are now just ignoring management
>Kiara scratches her thick Austrian skull "so then like me, the ex-idol fluent Japanese speaker who's perfectly fine with this work had to go to management on their behalf. like umm wtf?"
lmao

>>44372365
Can't blame anyone but themselves. It's not like they were streaming a lot during their trip. No time management and lazy.

>>44355859
>>44356273
>>44372407
>>44380387
And people wonder why Kiara gets all the corpo gigs in Hololive... She is the only one that is professional, the only one that they can count on the be a fucking adult and be there on time, keep deadlines and fucking wear her big girl pants and talk to management.
They should have only hired euros instead of lazy and unprofessional americans

>>44378353
That's what they tell you so you nannies don't worry. They are fucking adults.

>>44390627
>>EN is permanently burned out
This isn't the important issue you think it is. Lazy people are always burned out.

>>44355859
It's possible to admire Kiara's work ethic and dedication and still find her annoying you know, seems like a lot of people can't grasp that and think every anti is a foaming schizo

>>44355859
i bet other girls are going to love hearing her story. right KFP

>>44390708
Wasn't Coco American?
The problem is Cover making a decision of graduating her.

>>44372365
> b-but cover corp are slave drivers!
They knew the company they were working for, they knew the work ethic required. At least they should have known. As it turned out Kiara is the only one who understands what's required of them. It's why she's the one everyone in Cover goes to when they need an EN talent - meritocracy guides their decisions, not numbers. Why people don't get that and cry when Kiara's getting picked more than others is beyond me.

>>44377870
>le connor boogeyman in current year
??????

Why is Kiara try to tell her more successful gen mates what do as if she knew what she was doing?

>>44355859
So...
What's this supposed to make me do?
I'm still watching gura ame ina and not still watching chicken or mori

>>44355859
kiara deserves better than these lazy whores

>>44391199
Swap Gura for Calli.
Good deal.

>>44391387
agreed, she should graduate and go to NijiEN already!

>>44381788
>I'm watching to have fun and enjoy not to make my ears bleed over some egomaniac.
kek

>>44376859
It's pointless drama for Kiara to even bring it up. What's been done is done. It was late but it was still turned in and accepted. Why bring it up again? AND ON STREAM NO LESS. She's just being an asshole for no reason

>>44391556
She was mad about >>44371691

I'm in a Fortune 500 Lower Management, if workers can't get a task done, then its on management. Not to mention this was a 4-1 split, Kiara is the outlier. If even two of them had said they can't get it done, then you need to shift the timeframe to not overburden the rest of the group.
>Why don't they replace the workers who can get it done then? Like 5 kiaras?
Cohesion, morale, and worker resources. Are there even 5 kiaras out there? And if there are, would they mesh together as well as the Myth girls? You may find it that they don't achieve the same level of success; teams have specific roles afterall.

>>44355859
Americans don't get European culture. And Americans are generally lazy fucks. Then take Japanese, who consider Europeans to be lazy, or at most forgetful. Now be someone who understands how picky Japanese can be. Kiara is feeding back the energy she feels from her Japanese coworkers, even if they don't say anything out loud. Because of stress.

>>44392097
Is it ok to manage idols earning 2M$ profit a year in the same way as you do with 8hours a day worker?

>>44391556
>It's pointless drama for Kiara to even bring it up
Wrong. She was annoyed at Mori, Ina, Ame, and Gura's irresponsibility and ridiculous lack of professionalism so she applied social pressure in the hopes of making them get their shit together.

>>44392097
>if workers can't get a task done, then its on management
Hololive management is virtually useless. Kiara is the only one trying to keep Myth on track.

>>44390523
Why even bring it up in the first place?

>>44392097
>Kiara is the outlier
/thread, this basically solves the entire issue here

>>44389680
>Since you're so addicted to numbers, wanna count the number of times Kiara bitched about her coworkers compared to the other ENs?
Bitching at your coworkers for doing a bad job will always be based and there's nothing you can do about it.

>>44389968
>The fact she shared this with the public doesn't paint her in a good light.
Yes it does. And Kiara had to bring it up in public because public pressure is the only thing that might persuade the other girls to be more professional in the future.
>Sharing stories that make your colleagues look bad, even if that wasn't your intention, is still unprofessional no matter how you slice it or dice it.
Holy shit imagine being this wrong

>>44393041
>it's based to be a cunt
the only thing this tells me is that your opinions aren't even worth considering

Probably what ENs need is Otsubone culture of Japan which Marine frequently mentioned in her streams.
Otsubone is, in short, an evil office mom who keeps watch on, chastises, and tells the manager on her coworkers when necessary.
It's most likely to be the eldest female employee in the office and I believe Ina suits the position.

>>44393110
>I am seething at Kiara for being blunt and wanting her genmates to do their fucking job
Okay schizo

>>44393110
>its okay for 4 bitches to waste everyones time
ok fucking yank

>>44393171
>>44393217
stop talking as if you watch anyone but Kiara

Just fire Myth and move Kiara to ID or some shit.

>>44393110
>implying holding your coworkers to a standard and trying to make them stop being unprofessional is being a cunt
The only thing this tells me is that you're lazy and unprofessional

>>44393137
This. They need someone to keep them in check. The problem is that no one respects or cares about what Kiara thinks.

>>44393282
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO IT IS OKAY THAT THEY DO NOT UPHOLD DEADLINES, AND DO NOT TELL MANAGEMENT WHEN THEY CANNOT MEET THE DEADLINE, BECAUSE I HATE KIARA
KYS SCHIZO

>>44393376
>the typical kfpiss meltdown
I know the truth hurts but make it less obvious man

>>44393317
https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1628419615876583426

>>44393137
Ina puts even her own career in Hololive second compared to her roommate's, you think she'll do favors for Cover?

>>44393461
>No argument
So the usual from you Kiaraschizos

>>44393461
Seethe all you want. You can't stop Kiara from being right.

>>44393328
Give Kiara Iincho outfit.

>>44393282
Myth all have great personalities and stream content.

But, they could have great personalities, good stream content AND good work ethic. I am sorry but this is absolutely not acceptable behavior. I feel very lucky to merely be a viewer and not having to work with them.

>>44393137
>Ina
>of all the people
she acted like a bit of a manager lite during the 3D showcases but come on

>>44389360
Members who have lived in Japan compared to those who haven't and have other stuff they want to do..

Now I am going to say it, Kiara should not have expected the other Myth Girls wanting to do it at 11:00 pm. right before deadl, even if the other Myth members promised to do it at that time

It has been three years, I don't know how Kiara keeps falling for it?

>>44390708
This.
Remember when there was this meme about Mori being a workaholic?
Turns out the real workaholic is the one who does not constantly whine about having to work.

>>44376624
How many of these girls have actually held a real job? The Americans that are lazy are the ones that never had to work for anything in their life. Believe me, there are a LOT more that work more and harder than they do in European countries.

>>44393872
Anon, the OP literally has Kiara whining

>>44393833
>Kiara keeps falling for
She believes she can change it.

>>44391199
People who watch Amelia Shitson are so creepy to me.
She is utterly repuslive in every way. Sure the model hides that at first sight, but over time it should be obvious what kind of disgusting pig you are watching.
And even that AI Vtuber has more compassion than ancap bitch.

>>44393555
Kiara should have had a linchou outfit as her default

>>44393907
Yeah about her co-workers letting her down, not about having to do work itself.
When I still watched Mori, her complaining about having to do work was like 40% of every stream.

https://streamable.com/fdal92
Well anons, did they keep their promise?

I think what people keep forgetting is that all of them are rich by now.
If they are tired, they will just go to sleep. They know they are too big to be fired for this kind of shit and even if they were, they are still rich.
Kiara is different because being an Idol was her lifelong dream. She is not purely in it for the money.

No one cares about Kiara
Her 3D showcase numbers got beaten by a girl that can't sing or dance

>>44394176
>all of them going full blame shifting with the "I-IT'S NOT US IT'S OTHER PEOPLE
They are fucking hopeless lmao

>>44391003
>>44393376
>>44393327
>>44391199
>>44388256
You still don't get. Strategically, this doesn't make any sense to Kiara. Just let the deadline pass, don't try to keep your co-workers in line, they are going to crash and burn by themselves, lazy people always end up doing it anyway.

The only important thing in this racket is not to look bad in front of the fans, Kiara doesn't seem to grasp this or else hasn't realised that there are many many lazy people out there that will give the girls unlimited passes

>>44394230
Now that Gura gave up on singing, the only ones that can sing are Kiara and Calli, none of them can dance besides Kiara

>>44394322
Seems to work out for her since management loves her. Maybe THAT'S actually part of her strategy. She knows she won't get any crumbs from Cover just on behalf of her numbers, unlike Gura for example. So all she can do is become the management's darling. It seems to work since they keep putting her on the official channel and just yesterday asked her to lead the 3D collab.

Jeezas, now wonder Yagoo is taking forever to prepare EN3. He gotta filter all the lazy bitches.

>>44381788
>>44381854
>>44381877
>>44381927
>>44381989
>>44382043
>>44382154
>>44382176
ban all discordfags

>>44394462
Kiara can do both and still gets shat on by people who can do neither
Just shows how much of a filter she is to most people

>>44394176
Things like this are one of the reasons that I admire Kiara, even with her constant "woe is me" and "me me me" shenanigans.
This woman knows that if THEY don't do it, then who will?

Troons gossip general.

>>44394504
That would be a dream. I really wonder why NijiEN work culture is so different. Are they all held at gunpoint or some shit?

>>44394504
>filter all the lazy bitches
Re-hire ex-CN members behind the back of CCP.

>>44355859
>the girls have work scheduled
>Kiara makes plans to hang out with NijiEN the day they were scheduled to do work and rather than doing the work earlier in the day and going out later like any normal sane person, decides to do the reverse, making the other girls wait all day
>the girls begrudgingly allow her out of politeness
>Kiara gets back late when everyone is tired so they want to get some rest for a few hours
>throws a hissy fit cause she knows how japanese companies can terminate you for any possible slight towards them
>afraid of taking the blame even though its her fault
>out of sheer terror immediately runs to management and says its everyone elses fault, like a teachers pet trying to save face over a problem they could possibly be blamed for. All while there may not have even been any problem at all
Damn maybe next time she tries to make plans when they already have things to do that day the girls should tell her to get her priorities straight or fuck off

Missing deadlines and shit happens, whatever, it's not like they do actually important work, it's just entertainment. Not even notifying management and letting someone who they didn't even expect to see the message do it is kind of shitty, however. Even if they hate their managers, the managers themselves probably hate their jobs too. They're regular niggas repporting to higher ups and doing their 9 to 5s (actually much more because they still need to keep an eye on streams and stuff outside of work hours and on weekends). Wouldn't hurt to treat them like human beings.

>>44394748
>the girls begrudgingly allow her out of politeness
RUMAO making up bullshit like usual

>>44394748
And you know this how? To me it sounded like Kiara was home in time for the agreed upon recording time.
They live in different time zones. So what is even "earlier in the day" supposed to mean?

>>44394898
They are all in Japan anon...

>12 hours have past and no constructive opinion
Ok, I'll be married to Gura.
Someone must do this job and then everything will be ok.. No need to worry about me, anons..

>>44394898
Retardchad...

>>44394953
Are all chumcucks ESL retards?

>>44394748
You are correct in that Kiara shouldn't make plans to record that late. But if you don't want to record at 11 p.m. You should tell Kiara that in advance, not say that you are fine with it and later recant on your word.

>>44394640
I feel that it's because NijiENs are simply just a lot more competitive among themself. They have separate friend cliques and tend to be more numberfaggy at times, so I imagine their internal rivalry motivates them to just simply stream more.

>>44394748
>I am going to ignore unprofessional behaviour from the four other Myth members, since they did not inform management when they should have and cannot uphold what they agree on to seethe at Kiara
Ogey Kiaraschizo

>>44394898
You're too stupid to hate. I kinda respect that.

We can say the project was late in the first place because kiara was sick because of her travel to niji girls
We can also say they scheduled it already at 11pm? so kiara was not late.
There’s not enough information. Zero sum game. Need more information like when did it get scheduled? What time is the scheduled time. Etc

>>44394898
>Your typical nijisis
Le-mao. I don't even know why I bothered.

kek

>>44395445
There is enough information and the conclusion is that Kiara is BASED and CORRECT and everyone else in Myth needs to do better.

>>44395510
sasuga karen prime

>>44395617
>I like to make the most of the time I have in Japan
> KAREN KAREN
Shut the fuck up deadbeat faggot.

Is this the usual kiara thread where it will get 300+ replies and it's just back and forth that leads to nothing? I'm bringing my popcorn

Kiara needs to go boxing lessons with Korone.
It's always your fist to solve a problem with other people. The faster the better. Just like food delivery.

>>44395788
Kiara won't do shit. Mori can literally just roll on her and break all her bones.

>>44395831
What she does is doing 40 x 5 bench and 3 chinning 3 days a week and having deadbeats call her lady hulk.

>>44381788
Based, Hololive vtubers aren't streamers, they're idols.

>>44394748
>>the girls have work scheduled
DYRBI
>>Kiara makes plans to hang out with NijiEN the day they were scheduled to do work and rather than doing the work earlier in the day and going out later like any normal sane person, decides to do the reverse, making the other girls wait all day
It’s Kiara’s fault that they literally waited for the absolute last day and only because they were reminded by management?
The Niji hang out was also planned
>>the girls begrudgingly allow her out of politeness
>>Kiara gets back late when everyone is tired so they want to get some rest for a few hours
She was back in time.
>>throws a hissy fit cause she knows how japanese companies can terminate you for any possible slight towards them
???? Japanese companies are literally the opposite of US companies you literally cannot lay off people even when they’re lazy. You have to find an explicit contract violation or something. Once you’re hired you’re basically hired for life if you don’t fuck up your contract. (you know like breaking NDA)
>>afraid of taking the blame even though its her fault
????????
>>out of sheer terror immediately runs to management and says its everyone elses fault, like a teachers pet trying to save face over a problem they could possibly be blamed for. All while there may not have even been any problem at all
Management: please do this TODAY
Myth: go to sleep without notifying them
On what planet is this even remotely acceptable? Where I work, the management is pretty cool, they won’t mind about delays, but at the very fucking least you should notify them. Who the fuck just ghost their manager???


No. They’re sweet and cute and I love them. But they have OBJECTIVELY absolute terrible work ethics. It absolutely baffles me that anyone would try to defend them.

>>44381788
How many times did this guy reply to himself?

>>44396188
Well idols meet deadlines and would inform their management if they cannot, so clearly the four other girls in Myth are not idols

>Kiara-chan, if they not work, punch them!
>if they not work again, punch their family! Thank you forever!!

There's no functional difference between recording something at 11 PM and doing it first thing in the morning.

The other, smarter girls realized this and went to bed. Kiara felt guilty because they were recording so late to accomodate her and she only realized how unreasonable it was when she got back and they had already went to bed.

>>44372407
>publicly shits on her coworkers
>professional
Maybe if you KFP retards could have scraped some more CCVs together she wouldn't have needed to lash out so badly.

>>44396529
>There's no functional difference between recording something at 11 PM and doing it first thing in the morning.
True, except for the part you’re ghosting management.
>The other, smarter girls realized this and went to bed.
Without notifying management. So not just lazy, but cowards.
>Kiara felt guilty because they were recording so late to accomodate her
Accomodate her? She cut her night short for this. And it was all for nothing.
>and she only realized how unreasonable it was when she got back and they had already went to bed.
No she was disappointed (but not surprised) by their shitty behaviour. And took the blame toward management instead of the coward lazy shits.

>>44396813
Unless management was up waiting to get this recording at 11 PM, Kiara ghosted them just as much

>>44396700
Yes. She is the only professional in Myth. You know there is a reason why she’s always picked up for the main channel programs, right?

>>44396884
You underestimate Jenma.

>>44396925
She has fluent Japanese?
She's a kiss-ass?
They are desperately trying to boost her numbers?
I don't know, you pick one.

>>44396925
lol
lmao

welcome to the show of Super Hyper Ultra Ultimate Deluxe Perfect Amazing Laziest Mythkeks.
Cheers

>>44397029
I’m going to spoonfeed you anon, because Kiara already told us the answer: She replies in time and management likes her.

one day you'll realize it's KFP that always attempt to destroy unity instead of deadbeats
today is not that day, but soon!

If anybody reading this topic is an actual human being and not a dramabot please reply

>>44397227
Destroying unity is based though. Literally all the other girls have their own shit, even the ones who don't stream like Gura and Ina. Only Kiara will suffer.

>>44396813
>I won't disagree because I'm afraid of confrontation, I'll just say I'll do it, but I won't actually do it.

>>44397278
KFP here
Never get tired of watching subhumans seethe over my birdwife. 2 and 1/2 years of free entertainment and counting.

>>44397278
KFP here. I’m the faggot that makes sures to say "I love Myth" in all of my post because I want to makes it clear. That I can criticize their shitty work ethics without being an anti.

>>44381788
i kneel

>>44397141
Yeah, she would think that wouldn't she?

>>44381788
holy fucking based

>>44396315
Once more after you said this >>44397462

>>44397438
Nice try discordbot, but no one's falling for your concern trolling.

>>44397645
You need to understand that being cute and nice on stream doesn’t mean that they can’t be terrible colleagues to work with. I’m not even saying that they hate each others. They probably hang out and have fun together.

But being this much lazy and unprofessional is going to have (and probably already have) consequences on their work. Seriously, it’s not like they’re overloaded, why can’t they put just a little bit more effort in what they do?

picrel is the comment section of her membership only wallpaper.
>inb4 I’m a hate watcher

>>44393041
Nobody like a person who like to talk shit behind their back.

>>44394322
>Just let the deadline pass, don't try to keep your co-workers in line, they are going to crash and burn by themselves, lazy people always end up doing it anyway.
Kiara doesn't want her coworkers to crash and burn, Anon. She hates it when they're lazy and irresponsible and she wants them to cut that shit out.

>>44397906
I can literally hear you holding back the urge to call them whores retard.

damn, 200 new posts since I went to bed
SEA hours really are awful

>>44390708
What gigs?

>>44397906
I can tell you what's going to have some real consequences, making one-sided comments publicly about how hard it is and how bad they are.
I can't speak to how much they are working, nobody on here can.
I can speak to how Kiara just put more nails into her own coffin regarding other fans wanting to watch her.

It doesn't matter how shitty or unfair the situation might be. If you are complaining about it in public you are fucking the company and your coworkers image for your own personal gain.

And that looks terrible.

>>44398171
Oh Boohoo delusional schizos that already hated her are still going to hate her

>>44396700
Being more professional than her coworkers gives Kiara a license to shit on them. Rules of nature.

>>44397946
>behind their back
I don't think you know what that phrase means

>Kiara goes out and doesn't communicate with the other girls until after she gets home
>the others are obviously communicating between themselves and think Kiara won't be seeing their messages until later
>despite those messages being only posted 5 or so minutes before she read them implying they had no clue when she'd be back

Even just taking in what Kiara herself said, she comes across as the one in the wrong here. She didn't communicate with her team and then threw them under the bus to her chat. That's absolutely shitty no matter how you slice it.

>>44398283
Do you have to be delusional to dislike her after she publicly shits on your oshi and whines to her fanbase about how bad they are?
Really?
Well enjoy being the punching bag for the catalog for a few more months I guess.

>>44398381
>>Kiara goes out and doesn't communicate with the other girls until after she gets home
She goes out in a country where her phone carrier cost an arm to even send a single discord message.
Everything’s alright because she has a set time for when to come back.
>>the others are obviously communicating between themselves and think Kiara won't be seeing their messages until later
They absolutely know about this and don’t care.
>>despite those messages being only posted 5 or so minutes before she read them implying they had no clue when she'd be back
You didn’t listen to what she said.

>>44398405
>punching bag for the catalog
have you been gone for two years? the catalog hasn't been painted orange in forever

>>44398405
No you have to be a schizo to be as overtly dramatic as you are now kys retard

>>44398381
that would make sense if the time window was greater than 5 minutes. It is completly reasonable not to check your messages every 5 minutes.

>>44398285
If she was more professional she wouldn't publicly shit on her coworkers.
This is niji tier shit.

>>44397906
consider suicide Kakun

>>44398463
Maybe cause she keeps doing this shit.
Why exactly do you think she gets so much hate versus indifference?

>>44398171
>I can speak to how Kiara just put more nails into her own coffin regarding other fans wanting to watch her.
>re-affirmed that she's the only member of Myth with a professional attitude
>management will favor her even more now because she was willing to sacrifice her social life while the rest of Myth shirked a deadline because they were tired and didn't tell anyone
>is now even more respected
Kiara winning.

>>44398381
> The girls promise to be awake
>Goes to sleep
>Somehow this is Kiara's fault that they cannot keep their promise
LMAO the absolite state of Kiaraschizos

>>44398494
As a professional it's Kiara's duty to shit on her coworkers for being unprofessional. Her professionalism literally requires her to shit on them.

>>44398539
did you even read my post?
kiara hasn't been the "catalog punching bag" in a long time after mori and kronii and all the nijis took that role

>>44398446
>She goes out in a country where her phone carrier cost an arm to even send a single discord message.
Then she shouldn't have either not gone out when she knew the group had a deadline, eaten the cost and message or find another way to contact them.

>They absolutely know about this and don’t care.
>You didn’t listen to what she said.
"And then I see 5 minutes or so before I arrived, they were talking, writing on Discord in our group saying, "Haaa, I'm kinda tired, mmm, can we do it tomorrow?"

Straight from her mouth. They either hate her guts and left right before they knew she was going to be back on purpose or they didn't know. Which one is more likely when there was no communication between them and her throughout the day?

>>44398547
Anon, explain to me how publicly proclaiming you are working so hard and all your coworkers are lazy whores is a professional attitude and not a MEMEME drama baiter?

>>44398742
>Then she shouldn't have either not gone out when she knew the group had a deadline, eaten the cost and message or find another way to contact them.
I’m going to be extremely fair, Kiara did ONE mistake. She forgot to bring her pocket wifi with her.
But if you listen to the story, the decided to go to sleep at a time when she was almost home. So it wouldn’t change anything. She just would be disappointed in the taxi instead of being disappointed when opening the door.

>>44398625
That would be true, internally.
If she does it where we can see it makes her unprofessional.
So where we are now is that Kiara says the others are unprofessional but I can see for myself that she is unprofessional.
Even if you take all of this at face value I can't see how it doesn't make Kiara look terrible.

>>44393555
>>44393996
She should also have an extremely hairy pussy and armpits like Mito does (source: my cock). Also since Kiara is in Japan they should meet up and have grimy sweaty lesbian sex for hours and stream it.

>>44398742
>They either hate her guts [...] or they didn't know
They didn’t know that the Niji girls would invite her to a Karaoke and she would decline because of the recording. That’s for sure.
But they also didn’t seem to care much. They probably just don’t think about consequences and were just lazy. Because that’s what they are. Lazy.

>>44398775
>explain to me how publicly proclaiming you are working so hard and all your coworkers are lazy whores is a professional attitude
Because holding others accountable and publicly shaming them to do a better job if you have to is professional. Letting unprofessonalism slide without any consequences is enabling it. There's nothing more unprofessional than turning a blind eye to the incompetence of your coworkers and letting it fester unchecked.

>it's yet another "Kiara is perfect, hasn't done anything wrong in her life, and everything that happens is everyone else's fault" episode
The absolute state of KFP.

>>44398856
Well of course you cannot since you are an anti towards Kiara, so your opinion means jackshit

>>44398943
Anon I can tell you never had a job.
When you finally do, I hope you go and post all your grievances about it and your coworkers on twitter. Really nail that promotion when management sees it.

>>44399033
I wasn't till I saw this thread.

>>44398856
>That would be true, internally.
Incorrect. Yelling at them behind the scenes would accomplish nothing because they'd just shrug it off. Only lasting public shame has any chance of working.

>>44399016
>"It is another I am seething because I am getting called out for being a schizo" episode
The absolute state of Kiaraschizos

>>44399086
>I was not a Kiara abti before I saw one thread in the catalog
RUMAO what a pathetic reply Kiaraschizo

>>44399047
>your coworkers ignore deadlines without telling anyone
>you follow deadlines
If Cover was a regular business then Kiara would already by working in upper management and the other girls would be fired long ago.

>>44398775
It's very unprofessional, but she is not wrong.

>>44399257
Wow, Cover must be on the verge of bankruptcy due to being mismanaged .
Each day they do not go under is truly a miracle.

You absolute fucking retard.

>>44399177
>ESL scared of contractions

>>44399257
>has never worked at a regular business in his life
lol no, hardworking, knowledgeable people are regularly passed over promotions over charismatic grifters. Most of the CEOs are priviledged sociopaths that are good at giving powerpoint presentations with confidence and bad at everything else.

>>44382758
>Kiara's flying on the gutters.
Forget everything else in this shitty blogpost, the fuck does that mean?
Gutters, like for rain on a house? How do you fly on a fixed object? Or gutter like in bowling and in the street, trying to invoke images of flapping on the ground?

>>44395135
Niji management has no problem dropping you on your ass if you dip below high 3view. Sometimes it’s funny when it happens to someone who deserves it like Reimu but it’s overall a pretty harsh incentive not to lag behind or risk getting anything but the most basic branch support get cut off by sociopath suits.

The HoloMyth girls have the exact opposite problem where they’re both too big to fail and aren’t interested in competing amongst themselves, so they can just give management the finger and since they do it as a group it’s not like they can get another girl to do it.

>>44399421
probably a translated expression from another language

>>44399393
If you think Cover is being managed competently at all, then I have a bridge to sell you.
Not even on EN's side, forget that. Look at how they had to delay Aki's 3D anniversary for a whole MONTH and gave no reasons why. Yeah, great management.

If Myth is like this in every project and she wanted to cover up for her colleagues I wonder how many lies she would need to say...
Something like "I declined the Karaoke and went home to record some stuff with Myth (straight up lie" and taking the risk for her story to not add-up with the others. Or maybe she could say that she didn’t want to go to the Karaoke because she was tired. But then NijiEN will think "wait that’s not what she told us, is she lying to us?". Maybe she should blame management? "I went home to record stuff with Myth, but manager-san missed the appointment again".

What do you think is the best course of action? Why not just straight up tell the truth? (The truth is that Myth is lazy). Maybe if they don’t want to be called out, they could try... not being lazy? I would LOOOOVE to see more myth project and it’s really a shame that we can’t have nice things because of how lazy they are.

>>44399393
Kek. Did I touch a nerve? Cover is Yagoo's charity for disturbed boys and girls. It isn't even remotely run like a real business and if it was then most of the talent would be canned for job performance that ranged from poor to literally non-existent. That's just the truth.

>>44399657
Is Kiara first on the chopping block for being the least popular EN?
Maybe Yagoo should go ahead and pull the trigger then.

>>44398943
No wonder she's talking shit about her coworkers, when she has your tongue stuck so far up her ass that the only way shit can come out is through her mouth.

>>44399657
Bro, vtubers are super cheap you need basically nothing to upkeep. Magni straight up said corporate told him Tempus would be considered a success with 500ccv average, unless Kiara somehow drops that low and stays there she's going to be here forever. Same with the homos.

>>44399775
Keep dreaming, Kiaraschizo.
Nearly four years of seething. Here's to many more.

>>44399775
>be Kiara
>be the only person in Myth with a professional attitude
>be the only person management can rely on
>be so good at managing the other girls that you're actually better at it than management is
>be one of the top 3 moneymakers in EN
If you think Kiara would be on the chopping block then you're smoking dangerous amounts of both crack and cock

>>44399956
This. Starting cost is like 3k and the maintaining cost is zero.

2k for a model and 1k for an iphone. Then everything else is just conjointly financed by the talents and cover and then they get a pourcentage on results. We saw it on the IPO report, every project is like this. Talents finances X% and gets X% of the results. If a vtuber is doing poorly then just don’t plan any project for them it won’t cost you a single cent. Anycolor understands this even better than cover, they really don’t care about their ex-ID being in the gutter.

>>44400030
>>44400057
Sounds like I hit a nerve.

>>44400187
selamat malam

>>44399956
>vtubers are super cheap
I'm not talking about money or CCVs. A number of Holos skip work for extended periods of time. They just don't bother working. That kind of thing would never fly in a real business.

>>44400187
Sounds like you don't have an argument and you're giving up

>>44400187
Please answer this >>44399595

How many lies would Kiara need to say to cover up for everyone? And how is she supposed to lie without being caught by inconsistencies? How SHOULD she explain the story and why she went home early without throwing anyone under the bus.

I see we've moved on to the
>KIARA is the HARDEST WORKER EVARRR and the rest of MYTH are all LAZY S L U T S and if YOU don't think so you are le ebin heckin' SCHIZO
portion of the thread.

>>44400057
yeah, just like Rushia! untouchable!

>>44400369
That is exactly what these people want. Kiara making herself look bad to distract from the other EN girls being too lazy to do their job.

>>44400709
Kiara might be dumb, but she's not "get yourself fired by spilling sensitive corporate info to Japanese keemstar in an attempt to prove your innocence" dumb

>>44400369
Zero lies.
Literally zero.
She does not need to say anything or give any details.
It's not fucking hard to be professional in a public facing setting.
If someone does not show up or deliver something just say "They were busy" or "It's been delayed". The rest all do it. We have delays and cancellations all the time, nobody get thrown under a bus because of it.

>>44400369
>"I couldn't go to karaoke because I had some work to do at home which.. ended up not happening so there's that."
It's very hard to not tell lies and also be tactful at the same time, I know.

>>44400758
Kiara is the number one over sharer in HoloEN.
If someone does get canned for saying too much to the wrong people it would be her.

>>44400677
This but unironically.
The rest of Myth are very cute and sovl when they're lazy sluts so they get a pass regardless.

>>44400792
>>44400855
Ok then.

>I declined karaoke because we had something to record
>We couldn’t record because Myth was busy (at 11Pm)
>Everyone knows that they are not busy and a thread is created on /vt/ about how "busy" they are and why Kiara is covering up for them
The thread would be exactly the same as today. It doesn’t change a thing. We have known for a while that they are lazy. Covering it up just seems fake and makes Kiara looks as bad as the rest of Myth.

>>44400977
Very possible we still would have this thread.
But it would have been full of schizos pushing unverified rrats instead of something the talent themselves outright said.
I have no idea how you can not see the difference.

I don't watch Kiara, her voice filters me and I dislike her constantly making things about her
That being said. I do think she's literally the only one with a sense of professionalism in myth and possibly even council. Mori would've pulled through had it been something related to her roommate
Gura can't be assed to do anything these days
Ame seems to be the only other member who occasionally tries since
Ina is lazy as fuck.

I think it's ridiculous to shit on her when 90% of her branch can't even regularly stream

>>44401114
Well there is a difference. A positive one. I much prefer talking about stuff when we have evidence then discussing with schizos.
If anything the current situation is much better. We can discuss why Myth is lazy without relying on rrats.

>KFP praise your oshi without shitting on her genmates challenge (99% IMPOSSIBLE O_O)

>>44401199
Nobody is forcing you to talk to schizos.
If it was just them you can just ignore it and they just reply to each other the thread dies.
But now we got what, 120+ IPs, because one talent threw the others under the bus.

>>44395774
I was right and this shit is the funniest. Keep it up guys! Gonna make a second batch of popcorn.

>>44401263
I love Myth. I watch all of them. I woke up at 4 fucking am to watch all of their 3D. I listen to their song, etc.
But I cannot help but think about all the missed project and stuff we could have if they just put some work. Why is everyone defending this? Why do you like when content creators don’t create content?

>>44401263
True Kiara is that good that she makes her genmates look bad, which is why it is 99% impossible to not shit on the other Mythgirls when praising Kiara

>>44401471
Because it's Kiara, it's literally it .
Schizo's on this board will always Go out of their way to make sure that "orange woman bad"
>y-you can't just talk about how unprofessional your coworkers are!!!!
I feel for her, it's like being a kid at school and being stuck doing the group project because the fact that the rest of your group decided they were just going to fuck off instead.
Then when you present to the teacher they still want full credit, even though you're the one who did all the work.

>>44401566
>y-you can't just talk about how unprofessional your coworkers are!!!!
>I made the point sound like a stuttering wojak so I win the argument!
I'm sorry, what makes you think you can just talk shit about your coworkers publicly?

What's with KFPs and their victim complex? This thread is purely shitting on other myth members.

>>44401663
>you can just talk shit about your coworkers publicly?
Professional adults in a group project setting should do their shit on time. That's not an unreasonable statement isn't something that needs to be talked around.

>>44401730
Why'd they all wait to do it last minute at 11pm then? Yes, that includes Kiara.

>>44401718
>KFP have a victim complex
>Trannys have a victim complex
O-Oh.

>>44401779
Unironic scheduling hort

>>44401730
Yes, and they need to talk about that, amongst themselves. Like professionals.
Airing that shit out in public is pathetic. Literally begging for sympathy from her fans.
If it's an issue you talk to them about it. If they aren't listening you talk to management. If management doesn't care then just drop it.
What the hell is the result of whining in a public stream going to be other than making everyone, including Kiara, look bad?

Kiara is boring and everything that pushes to a meltdown is funny to me. Hope the rest of Myth keep ignoring her.

>>44401718
some random kiara anti schizos have been acting up and it's made them more insular and paranoid

The thing is though, it's not an uncommon opinion that Kiara is an annoying ESL so now they lump in everyone who says anything against her into the schizo conspiracy camp or whatever

>>44401730
Professional adults in a group project also don't talk about the group issues to their audience, you fucking retard

>>44401873
Well no worries at the rate HoloEN is declining, there will not be a HoloEN in three years

>>44401718
This desu >>44401924

>>44401976
The fuck is this reply? Since the two anons have already seen each other...

>>44401663
Have you never actually worked a job in your life? Every single job you ever work at will have people who discuss very publicly who is decent and who is lazy.
You just pray that they have the will to hold back until after work is done, there are times that your job or you might have coworkers who suddenly decide to announce to the world while they're working what drama they have going on and sometimes it even escalates in fights .
Work in a kitchen at a restaurant for a while and you'll see what I mean.

>>44401963
>No more Kiara
Best news, ever.

>>44402159
No actually it’s going to be only Kiara. Everyone declined except her and Ina.

>>44402093
What sort of garbage, unprofessional shitholes do you work at?
>Work in a kitchen at a restaurant
Oh I see. You mean that place that might as well have a revolving door installed due to its turnover rate?
Great example.

>>44402159
Monkey's paw
Kiara gets moved to JP

>>44402367
Even outside of jobs like that, do you think that your co-workers keep every single thing and thought to themselves? Chances are they go down to the bar they talk with people, they talk with people about what a shit worker you are, about how they work way harder than everybody else out there And etc etc.
Being a V tuber for a large corporation like this, is more comfortable to being a movie star of some sorts, or a profitable voice actor.
Have you never heard of any sort of drama involving movie stars that refuse to work with others because those other stars are lazy or rude or unprofessional?
Have you never heard of any drama between voice actors because of reasons listed above ?
I can promise you, nothing stays private when it comes to work.

>>44402073
Basically my way of saying that what anon said was accurate.

>>44402550
This. You don’t even have to hate them. I have tons of friends that I love but would never want to work with. And if I was forced to work with them, I would be pissed and trying to make them work.

>>44402550
>about how they work way harder than everybody else out there And etc etc
Yeah! Usually the shitters that are unsure of their posittion or lacl the social skills to mingle with the rest of the team. If you have a job that bad, you simply move to a better one.

>>44402550
You know people get labelled as gossips, kiss-asses and generally avoided if they talk shit about coworkers to each other?
You solve that shit by yourselves or through management. Not whining about it to other parties.
If you are friends with someone you may complain to them in confidence and then hope they don't rattle you out.
Not fucking announce it on a public platform.

>392 posts
>121 unique posters
you "people" are hopeless

>>44402850
You are a faggot, there you got a label what are you going to do now?

>>44398109
Being invited on the main channel