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>Literal who westerner on Twitter insults your playstyle
>Dedicate 40 minutes of your stream the next day to explaining why he's wrong and you're right
Is Astel unironically a menhera?

>> No.4426378

Unironically based maybe.

>> No.4426411

>>4426378
What do you mean by maybe ?

>> No.4426437

>>4426324
Holy based

>> No.4426445

>>4426324
Maybe not menhera but unprofessional to know how to ignore that type of people

>> No.4426458

>>4426324
Does a bear shit in the woods anon?

>> No.4426476

actual 'tism

>> No.4426484

>>4426324
Yes.

>> No.4426490

>>4426324
Nice, after this he will learn how to ignore these bugger

>> No.4426510

>>4426445
>Taking shit from someone who doesn't know shit
I don't watch Astel but he's pretty based for this

>> No.4426547

menheras are almost always based

>> No.4426552

>>4426324
>insult vtuber
>he spends most of an hour showing you how retarded you are in front of an audience
I'm thinking based

>> No.4426585

>>4426547
Could this be the male vtuber meta?

>> No.4426610
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He's still going. That guy really made him seethe.

>> No.4426639

there's no such thing as a vtuber that isn't a bit menhera (except for the boring normalfags that are just leeching on the bandwagon, maybe) but this is still pretty based

>> No.4426737

this is how you pull in more viewers. go on rants, viewers love rants, especially if you've got the credentials to back it up.

>> No.4426754
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He loves doing rants explaining how retard retards are

>> No.4426861

Speaking of, he's apparently added these new rules for his chat (translated by one if his usual translators):
https://mobile.twitter.com/rreinx/status/1399421762002063361

>> No.4426908
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>>4426861
>Rule 4: If it gets hard to watch, then stop watching.
Hmm, I wonder what this could be referring to?

>> No.4426936

>>4426324
>>Literal who westerner on Twitter insults your playstyle
Link

>> No.4426983

>>4426936
https://twitter.com/aznxanek/status/1399162536117800960?s=21
Here
He replied, addressed the tweet on stream and even changed his rules because of this faggot

>> No.4427085

>>4426983
Hmm... Personally, I think actually going out of your way to reply to criticisms, on twitter of all places, is one of the most cringe inducing things a vtuber can do, it’s just unnecessary and gives the impression that you’re insecure, but... Him turning it into an explanation stream is pretty funny, autistic but funny. He could’ve just said something like “don’t backseat” and left it at that, though
Almost feel bad for that guy, shouldn’t have used his actual name so that he wouldn’t find the post while egosearching

>> No.4427119

>>4427085
Also, him turning it into a guilt tripping thing... That boy really is a menhera isn’t he

>> No.4427209

>>4426861
>no superchats until Master
really shooting himself in the foot there over some random tweet

>> No.4427229

>>4427119
I expect nothing less from THE stars' menhera
If anything, he's probably the only menhera they have

>> No.4427241

>>4427085
>>4427119
Sure, but we all know Seaweed is a menhera and it's part of his charm. That dude is one of the main mods on the Stars discord, he should have known his tweets would be seen.

>> No.4427258

>>4427209
Nah, the no superchat until Master thing was imposed when he started this challenge, way before the twitter fag started this shit

>> No.4427370

>>4427241
Oh yeah, I agree that guy is a total retard

>> No.4427382

>>4426861
>Rule 4: If it gets hard to watch, then stop watching
Wise words this whole board could live by.

>> No.4427410

That 40 minutes explanation was worth it after watching a D4 mate fucking explode.

>> No.4427416

>>4427241
Really if he's a fan who knows how Astel is then he should be mindful of egosearching.

>> No.4427436

>>4426324
Astel is just based as fuck.

>> No.4427570

>>4426324
unironically based
picked up, watching his stream now. That's the kind of autism apex players need

>> No.4427951

>>4426324
>Is Astel unironically a menhera?
Always has been.

>> No.4427966

>>4426324
Fucking BASED. He did this so idiots don't do it again.

>> No.4427999

>>4426324
Was Astel right?
If so, based

>> No.4428024

>>4426324
based. he is legitimately autistic but based.

>> No.4428055

Is this the same Xanek dude that runs a Holostar discord and SCs a bunch? He's biting the hand that feeds. Based

>> No.4428095

>>4426324
Your homostar is a literal who Jap anyway. Does that saudi oil prince still throw money at him?

>> No.4428105

>>4426324
I am honestly impressed for this dedication

>> No.4428144

He's trying to "give criticism" when he never has been master rank and probably doesn't even play Apex him self. He can eat a dick, I hate armchair "experts". Oh he still Rt'ed Astel's stream. HA.

>> No.4428184

>>4428144
>Putting one of your prime paypigs on blast and he still simps for you anyway.
Chad Astel

>> No.4428251

https://twitter.com/AznXanek/status/1399435568833085445

>> No.4428314

>>4428251
Crying and playing victim because he got called out. Feels good to see him seethe.

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>>4426324
>>4428251
Holy shit my sides are going to the moon. Astel you fucking autist, I kneel.

>> No.4428414

>>4428251
the "advice" he gave wasn't even good it was basically just "play the game better" it doesn't help at all and although astel is displaying spectacular levels of autism by even entertaining this dude i'm with him on this one.

>> No.4428442

>>4428251
I mean, in a way he’s kind of right, I just don’t get why he’s defending himself when it probably wasn’t even his intention for Astel to see it anyway

>> No.4428536

>>4428442
>I mean, in a way he’s kind of right
Not really, Astel had no obligation to take his advice and every right to defend himself, he's just pouting that Astel only wants to hear advice from people that actually know how to play the damn game.

>> No.4428583

>>4428442
He knew people were going to come laugh at him after the stream, but internet retards don't know how to just take a beating when they deserve it and have to try to talk big instead

>> No.4428667

>>4428536
>defend himself
That’s the thing, he could’ve just done this, but he didn’t. He passive aggressively lashed out first, probably without thinking, at the actual guy on twitter, without even giving an explanation as to why he thinks he’s wrong. Then resorted to guilt tripping by implying the guy was saying he was bad at the game. Not the most rational response

>> No.4428691

>>4428442
If he didn't want Astel to see it he would've censored his name but he didn't.

>> No.4428696

>>4426324
Why would you take shit from some random no name retard that probably doesnt even have max rank

>> No.4428718

>>4428667
astel behaved like a child but this guy still deserved it. next time if you're going to be a pussy, censor his name or tweet on your priv. very simple.

>> No.4428721

>>4428691
I think the guy is just stupid and didn’t think that far

>> No.4428722

>OK, TJ """""""""Henry""""""""" Yoshi, now hear me out...

>> No.4428727 [DELETED] 

If he was female you'd all be screaming menhara and that "she" needs to graduate.

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>>4426324
>Is Astel unironically a menhera?

That's how he gets along with Yomi. Menhera frens

>> No.4428790

>>4428727
Nah if Amelia did this everyone would be saying based and there'd be 50 million threads about it.

>> No.4428793

>>4428727
If he was a female I'd be beating my meat to the thought of 'Astelle' going on an autistic rant about my performance mid-sex.

>> No.4428821 [DELETED] 

>>4428790
I remember when she snapped at chat for backseating her in some FPS game and the thread was full of complaints about it.

>> No.4428824

>>4426983
Holy shit he’s still doubling down.

>> No.4428827

I am not sure to understand: was he supposed to know that his tweet , in English, would be read by Astel while not being mentionned?
Both are dumbasses but one is a nobody and the other is a pro, professionally and Apex speaking, so sending his fanbase, as menhera as the streamer himself, to him is questionable to say the less...

>> No.4428857

>>4428821
I think it's really case by case and depends on if they're seen as justified to respond in such a way. I remember once Amelia sperged out at a guy who didn't read her community post properly trying to offer her computer advice and everyone was praising her for it.

>> No.4428876

>>4428827
>was he supposed to know that his tweet , in English, would be read by Astel while not being mentionned
Astel egosearches all the time and he's been a fan for a while so unironically yes.

>> No.4428902

>>4427570
Aqua...

>> No.4428911

>>4428827
The real surprise is he understands enough english to make a coherent response to that tweet. Ame apex collab when

>> No.4428914

>>4428827
it's excessive and i think astel should learn to ignore comments like this if he wants to grow both as a creator and as a person.
but the original tweet was dumb as shit and the guy is a retard so i'm personally unable to feel bad for him.

>> No.4428957

imagine being mad at video games

>> No.4428992

>>4428721
Nah he knows what's up he also wanted Astel to see it probably still a stupid thing to do.

>> No.4429002

>>4428790
When Silvervale snapped at collab beggars she got shit on hard.

>> No.4429011

>>4428914
idk astella, here we have a thread talking about it, which may bring an anon or two to get interested in astel. I like astel and he is a bitch, so it's all good as long as I don't say something he disagrees with... I do think lashing out like this might put off other vtubers and that's even less chances of collab...

>> No.4429034

>>4429002
Nah man I was in the thread discussing it most people thought it was justified. She also gets hit with the Vshojo debuff so it's not the same as a streamer without that preconceived bias against them.

>> No.4429038

>>4428957
Imagine giving one dude the time of day, a fleshed out response on your next stream and an entirely new rule added because you couldn't just ignore him.
Both are stupid but Astel breaks beyond that boundary.

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>>4428957
Imagine videogames

>> No.4429080

>>4429011
>I do think lashing out like this might put off other vtubers
I don't think any of Astel's Japanese viewers even understand what he's butthurt about exactly. It's not like he namedropped the guy on stream and all of their interaction was in English so it should be fine. Now if he spergs out like this at a Japanese fan that's a different story.

>> No.4429137

>>4429080
Hey, if you put it like that, yeah it makes sense. Pretty cool, then astel is an invested streamer that also takes the time to discuss tactics with his viewers and offers insight on his reasoning while playing. not being so butthurt you sperg for 40 mins before actually playing the damn game

>> No.4429156

>>4429011
i don't think this attitude will ruin his channel or anything but it will fuel his antis/nonwatchers and in turn further upset him. not sure if it would affect collabs more than his antisocial personality already does though.
anyways if it was a turn off for me i would have cancelled my membership long ago but here i am.

>> No.4429228

>>4426324
>fag is more dramatic than a women
Im not surprised

>> No.4429272

>>4428911
>Ame apex collab when
as a Holostars fan, hopefully never. nothing against Ame but her viewers... Zombfags are already bad enough.

>> No.4429311

>>4429272
When the idea was somewhat on the table, I would see a lot of weird and somewhat insulting messages on astels chat. EOP generally don't care but there will always be a few autists out there that will make chat hell.

>> No.4429352

>>4429272
I've seen teashits in Uto and Nabi chats. Ame can fucking keep those spergs.

>> No.4429366

>>4428251
This type of garbage back seating advice is shit high level players have to deal with all the the time.
https://twitter.com/Sajam/status/1370996264964300800?s=20

>> No.4429602

>>4428251
>All the people flaming him in the quote tweets
Based

>> No.4429615

>>4429156
I wish I knew japanese just to understand his personality better. I see him as loud, outgoing and obsessive and I am not sure, but maybe I have to add impatient, self centered and unapologetic

>> No.4429788

>>4429615
He's a brat
Like legitimately a fucking brat that needs to be put in his place.
pretty hot

>> No.4429821

>>4429788
I am not gay I am not gay I am not gay I am not gay I am not gay I am not gay I am not gay I am not gay I am not gay I am not gay I am not gay I am not gay

>> No.4429846
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>>4429821

I am not gay I am not gay I am not gay I am not gay I am not gay I am not gay I am not gay I am not gay I am not gay I am not gay I am not gay I am not gay!!!!!

>> No.4429853

>>4429615
Outgoing and astel can't be put in the same sentence.

>> No.4429885

>>4429846
You may as well post the shirtless one.

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>>4429788
>>4429821
>>4429846
AAAAAAA I'm GAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYY!

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>>4429853
i am basing off of what the other bros have said. Miyabi said astel is an extrovert.

>> No.4429994

>>4429352
Fucker if Uto is the one that panders and tries to siphon ame's viewers you have no right to complain. Her entire schtick in the beginning is being ame's sister and being a honoary hololive.

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>>4429885
The WHAT

>> No.4430028

>>4429994
Yea, and? That doesn't change my opinion on teaspergs. So what's your point?

>> No.4430036

>>4429156
It's honestly a nothingburger. His collab partners won't even know about this and most vtubers are supportive of each other anyways and won't be put off by this.

>> No.4430067

>>4429994 he >>4430028 has a point. Uto might deserve all the shit she's got but that doesn't justify holmies behaving the way they do. Anyway, https://streamable.com/z9sy56 this was nice I guess

>> No.4430070

>>4430028
No right to complain then. Her viewers were originally ame's anyways. Why should they have to fuck off if she is the one that brought them there.

>> No.4430118

>>4430008
Here you go.
https://twitter.com/CGcrescent/status/1398625780872056834

>> No.4430160

>>4430070
You're missing the point entirely that I don't want those people in Astels chat. Fucking do your reading reps, spergo.

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>>4430067
this kusogaki...

>> No.4430203

>>4426324
he's unironically based. vtubers usually don't give this much of a shit about the game

>> No.4430210
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>>4430177
>not having the OG

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>>4430118
LET' SGOOOOO https://streamable.com/n441br

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>>4429846
>not posting the shirtless version

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>>4430391
>>4430306

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>>4430424
Whoops anon beat me to posting it. Here's something else.

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>>4430506

>> No.4430635

i love astel but how come he isnt being hit by any antis? he's playing the exact same way aqua was when she was trying to solo masters and got bodied by antis for a while

>> No.4430725

>>4430635
because most people don't know who he is

>> No.4430753

>>4426324
>Menhera
Anon, we call this autismo.

>> No.4430759

>>4430635
I guess it's 'cause he isn't as popular as Aqua so antis don't bother with him as much as Aqua, but who know honestly.

>> No.4430779

>>4430635
The advantage of having a smaller and dedicated fanbase. Aqua's is way bigger and bound to attract more shitheads.

>> No.4430816

>>4430635
Aqua already had energy surrounding her because of the China situation.
Astel doesn't have those predisposed antis ready to swarm him

>> No.4430834

>>4430424
Long shot but anyone remember where this is from?

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>>4430834
an APEX stream

>> No.4430931

>>4426324
I'm glad he took the time. I understood why he was playing conservatively, but through his explanation, I learned why he SHOULDN'T care about low Diamond squadmates who run in and die. I didn't know that they aren't losing RP like he would if he risked his ass to rescue them.

>> No.4430978

>>4430635
He supposedly has japanese antis and he had a meltdown earlier in the year because of them. There was also that time when he pulled a Pekora when his project was rejected by higher-ups. The thing is he recovers relatively quickly so that most people forget it even happened, even more when his audience is much more smaller.

>> No.4430986

>>4430635
Astel already reached masters so this is just him proving himself, with aqua it was more that people said she didn't deserve to reach masters

>> No.4431271

>>4426324
Holy shit imagine acting more like a pussy than an actual woman. Even Aqua the queen of autism never went this low. No wonder his audience is almost exclusively consisted of Tumblr trannies and no one bothers inviting him to tournaments.

>> No.4431390

>>4427085
Some literally who on twitter once criticized Korone and she replied to it sincerely and without going menhera over it

>> No.4431391

>>4430834
https://youtu.be/ekpC9CMqpBg I'm almost certain it was this stream or the next one. He spent the whole session suffering in D4 without any real progress.

>> No.4431433

>>4428727
Because nobody in this thread actually watched Astel

>> No.4431478

>>4431271
He was just in a tournament and played with people not in Holo.

>> No.4431525

>>4431478
There has been several tournaments after that and he wasn't invited to any of them

>> No.4431609

>>4431525
Oh, I'm sorry. Your his manager and know that for a fact? Or MAYBE he just turns them down.

>> No.4431623

>>4431525
So what? He doesn't have to play in every tournament. Why do you assume he wasn't invited instead of him just choosing not to play

>> No.4431770

>>4431609
Hasn’t he expressed wanting to be invited to tourneys on multiple occasions?

>> No.4431881

>>4431770
Yes but he's just bad at networking and waits for the invite instead of trying to take it. It's not that people are avoiding him but instead others would just ask for invites and the slots fill up quickly. It's why even though Aqua is generally well liked she doesn't participate in tournaments.

>> No.4431894

>>4431609
>>4431623
He explicitly said he wished he had been invited and that he wanted to participate.
At least he's been getting invited to Hal's customs now, which is a good start.

>> No.4431912

>>4431623
>Why do you assume he wasn't invited instead of him just choosing not to play
Because he said so.

>> No.4431953

>>4431894
Yeah he waits to be invited and doesn't pursue it at all while others are more aggressive with getting invites by directing asking to get invited.

>> No.4431976

>>4431912
So because he wasn't invited to something it means everyone hates him and sees him as toxic?

>> No.4432127

>>4431976
I don't know if it's the same anon, but that guy was just clarifying that Astel does want to be part of CR cups. He's just bad at socializing and being master rank doesn't do him any favors. Animare's Kuku got a spot for being more assertive and having a much lower rank than seaweed.

>> No.4432214

>>4426324
Damn that's actually based

>> No.4433097

how does he even find these random people talking about him? does he just search "astel" on twitter in-between games?

>> No.4433127

>>4433097
Yes they just search their name on twitter. Masturi has done the same to people shit talking her on twitter before.

>> No.4433275

>>4433127
Egosearching was a mistake.

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>>4433275
Chronic egosearchers are BASED

>> No.4433409

>>4430070
I don't give a fuck about Ame, but i'm grateful that her existence made me aware of Uto

>> No.4434137

>>4431525 So? Your piece of shit rant got assblasted and you go from >never invited to >b-but there are other tournaments... and what about "acting" like a pussy? Astel is a shitty brat and goes straight to the point, calling people out for their inflammatory opinions

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>>4433409
Uto is a fucking leech , i know something about her was off when her channel kept getting spammed in my face constantly

>> No.4435214

>>4426324
BASED AF

>> No.4435241

>>4433409
If we think about what you typed, Ame's existence MADE Uto's

>> No.4435354

Pretty based, honestly. He understands the game more than the one criticizing him.

>> No.4435386

>>4434315
No one cares about you, teafag

>> No.4435791

>>4434315
She's unbelievably scummy.

>> No.4435852

Twink Tyler1

>> No.4435887

>>4431976
No but thats mean he suck at socializing & doesn't have enough entertainment skill to make tournaments more exciting. Why do you think oji-san award exist?

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>>4426324
We all know it was you who made that tweet, anon

>> No.4436008

>>4434315
>metatags haven't influenced youtube search alg since 2016
?

>> No.4436049

>>4436008
Oh, so those tags are there by accident. Man, uto is such a clutz

>> No.4436051

Somewhat related, but why does Astel not play on Tokyo servers when he's doing ranked Apex?

>> No.4436076

>>4436049
it means they had zero influence on how she rose in popularity. at best it was because she shared the same mama as Ame.

>> No.4436081

>>4434315
You ok bro? That's obviously not from her video.

>> No.4436124

>>4426908
Isn't this guy a lived translator for Roberu? Generally, I think he is a big fan of Holostars and always trying to promote them.

>> No.4436128

>>4426324
yes, only menheras can play the same games like forever

>> No.4436145

>>4436051
Aren't those servers full of cheaters right now?

>> No.4436151

>>4426324
Yes, and? A certain degree of menhera is a requirement to be truly based.

>> No.4436181

>>4436051
They’re full of hackers.

>> No.4436191

>>4436124
iirc, he is not a translator but he is indeed a regular.
I think he's that one guy who always leaves a bunch of timestamps on Roberu's videos.

>> No.4436241

>>4436049
She got caught in the algorithm the same way that holo face doxxes get caught. A bunch of ame watchers checked her out cause of her mama and playing into the sister thing which in turn recommended it to other ame watchers.

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>>4436008
>>4436081
>>4435791
oh wait....Those are Dloow's , the lazyfag clipper who lurks in forbidden knowledge discord servers

fixed

>> No.4436405

>>4430210
When did Ame appear in Astel's chat?
I keep hearing references to it but I've still not found it.

>> No.4436496

Astel playing his way and sticking with good teammates and abandoning bad teammates has gotten him so much RP today.

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>>4436283
Mate I just checked and you're making shit up.
I haven't even watched this chick outside her angel with a shotgun cover but piss off ya dumb bug.

>> No.4436710

>>4426324
And people have the guts to blame Cover for why this faggot is stuck at 1k viewers.

>> No.4436725

>>4436405
There is a clip of it. She showed up and he spill his spaghetti everywhere. Sadly I didn’t save the link, it was cringe as hell but also funny.

>> No.4436806

>>4426324
Astel should learn from aceu on how to play apex.

>> No.4436862

>>4426324
fucking kek
it really got him

>> No.4437366
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4437366

What does “based” even mean? What exactly is he based on?

>> No.4437423

>>4436405
>>4436725
this one?
https://streamable.com/z9sy56

>> No.4437556

since this is an astel thread i'll ask. anyone got that copypaste of clips of him singing?

>> No.4437634

>>4437366
his shota cock retard

>> No.4437670

>>4437556
Apex ones ?

>> No.4437834
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4437834

>>4437556
/- Disney -/
Astel - Circle of Life / Lion King
https://streamable.com/q4z17g
Astel - Go The Distance / Hercules
https://streamable.com/wlbixb
Astel - Arabian Nights / Aladdin
https://streamable.com/zv6dhd
Astel - Friend Like Me + Disney Medley
https://streamable.com/3a858q
Astel - A whole new world / Aladdin
https://streamable.com/8y7nk5
Astel - When You Wish Upon a Star / Pinocchio
https://streamable.com/cahxop

/- Music -/
Astel - Sakanaction / Shin Takarajima
https://streamable.com/3w1042
Astel - Hakujitsu / King Gnu
https://streamable.com/y05lee
Astel - USSEEWA / Ado
https://streamable.com/6bp1e4
Astel - What does YouTube say? ()
https://streamable.com/van74w
Astel - Hold me! (Titanic fragment)
https://streamable.com/139bcv
Astel - Dynamite / BTS
https://streamable.com/m737p8
Astel - Monster / ARASHI
https://streamable.com/52ahxe

/- Anime -/
Astel - Makafushigi Adventure / Dragon Ball
https://streamable.com/jb6j0g
Astel - Cha-La Head-Cha-LaDragon / Ball Z
https://streamable.com/4x0dr8
Astel - Dan Dan Kokoro Hikareteku / Dragon Ball GT
https://streamable.com/2j4wor
Astel - Butter-Fly / Digimon
https://streamable.com/gew02f
Astel - One Punch Man
https://streamable.com/rhegj2

/- OGEY -/
Astel - Let's gooo!
https://streamable.com/n441br
Astel - Are you ogey? No.
https://streamable.com/ta625z
Astel - Save your money
https://streamable.com/tj6tbu

>> No.4437881

>>4429602
>No likes
>26 quote retweets
Jesas

>> No.4437895

>>4437834
wow sasuga! thank you astella

>> No.4437921
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4437921

>>4437556
>>4437834
More

《unArchive》どうやったら自信が付くのでしょうか。
Astel unarchived anniversary singing stream:
Astel - Wowaka - Rolling Girl
https://streamable.com/tx9mnn
Astel - Chouchou-P - E? Aa, Sou. (え?あぁ、そう。)
https://streamable.com/n01hf5
Astel - Hachi - Mrs.Pumpkinの滑稽な夢 (Mrs. Pumpkin no Kokkei na Yume)
https://streamable.com/xgbrvd
Astel - Kanaria - King
https://streamable.com/mdwlwp
Astel - Gurren Lagann - Sorairo Days
https://streamable.com/zxh5wq
Astel - LiSA - Homura (Demon Slayer)
https://streamable.com/rbwajt
Astel - Ylvis - The Fox (WHAT DOES THE FOX SAY?)
https://streamable.com/r1kwbw
Astel - PIKOTARO - PPAP (Pen Pineapple Apple Pen) (acapella)
https://streamable.com/v58qmm
Astel - Psy - Gangnam Style
https://streamable.com/o3jvhy
Astel - Uru - Freesia
https://streamable.com/svc6gm
Astel - BTS - Dynamite
https://streamable.com/ah1xdw
Astel - Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody
https://streamable.com/mmmghi
Astel - Backstreet Boys - I Want It That Way
https://streamable.com/h0l5dy
Astel - Phil Collins - You'll Be In My Heart (Tarzan)
https://streamable.com/qfe2t4
Astel - Kenshi Yonezu (Hashi) - Loser
https://streamable.com/zm7wpc
Astel - gojimajiP - Ochame Kinou (Mischievous Function)
https://streamable.com/p460zt
Astel - BTS - life goes on
https://streamable.com/3odq53
Astel - Crusher-P - ECHO
https://streamable.com/5rtbsv
Astel - Doraemon - idk
https://streamable.com/rp1r9y
Astel - Dumbbell Nan Kilo Moteru - Onegai Muscle
https://streamable.com/s7k43n
Astel - Kusumi Koharu - Balalaika
https://streamable.com/g7fqmk
Astel - The Little Mermaid - Part of Your World (Jodi Benson)
https://streamable.com/ft6fw3
Astel - The Little Mermaid - Under the Sea (Japanese ver.)
https://streamable.com/05dnrl
Astel - Alladin - Arabian Nights
https://streamable.com/95dsya
Astel - idk
https://streamable.com/azubz1
Astel - Alladin - One Jump Ahead (Tomoya Nakamura)
https://streamable.com/qk4fa1
Astel - Alladin - A whole new world
https://streamable.com/lz8hb4
Astel - Rent - Seasons of Love
https://streamable.com/uy0gib
Astel - Mulan - Reflection
https://streamable.com/plkm9d
Astel - Pentatonix - Hallelujah
https://streamable.com/rubhra
Astel - Beauty and the Beast - Evermore (Japanese ver. Hisoka na yume)
https://streamable.com/py0mtk
Astel - Pinocchio - When You Wish Upon a Star
https://streamable.com/e0dvnk
Astel - The Lion King - Can You Feel The Love Tonight
https://streamable.com/rco7gt
Astel - Beauty and the Beast - Beauty and the Beast (Japanese ver.)
https://streamable.com/2oeqhk
Astel - The Greatest Showman Cast - A Million Dreams
https://streamable.com/j20yad

>> No.4438007

>>4437921
>>4437834
Man, that's a lot of links. Thank you.

>> No.4438047

>>4437834
>>4437921
holy based

>> No.4438301

>>4426324
There has to be a better way to fend off 3rd parties.

>> No.4438412

>>4430978
>and he had a meltdown earlier in the year because of them
that wasn't because of antis, management backtracked on approval for an unspecified project he had been working on for months.

>> No.4438633

Based. Fuck twitterinas

>> No.4438748

>>4426324
I can see why people would criticize him over some games yesterday when he was really frustrated and basically decided to go solo, but him doing this is funny as shit, bless his soul.

>> No.4438897

>>4430306
Astel is a SLUT!

>> No.4439214

Astel's petty and autistic for overreacting to ONE tweet, while the persona giving the criticism is also stupid for backseating a streamer that acts like this, especially when he's apparently known by both the community AND the streamer. Both are idiots.

>> No.4439328
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>>4437423
>He starts hyperventilating and freaking out and calling Ame cute
I can't handle this!
It's too relatable!

>> No.4440032

>>4429977
>Miyabi
Have you seen Miyabi? Of course he would consider Astel outgoing by comparison.

>> No.4440382

>be astel/vtuber/holoanti/etc
>spend 10 seconds making an inflammatory tweet
>live rent free in astel's head and make him spend time on meaningless shit

does he understand what he's unleashed

>> No.4440486

>>4429977
why would you take migabi's word

>> No.4440825

>>4440486
Why wouldn't you?

>> No.4441339

>>4439214
Honestly, xanek isn't even posting under his tags, just astel being autistic egosearching and replying. Time to hornypost astel so he can notice me.

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>>4439328
he's socially awkward and a massive introvert , you should see his first time interacting with a Hololive member for an entire hour , it was peak comedy gold , that was during an Apex Tournament afterparty

He got randomly shuffled with Matsuri , had to mute VC a couple of times , grief internally , ask chat for help , use weather decks to keep the discussion going only to be roasted by Matsuri and the other guy who he got teamed up with . Then he finally broke out of his shell , went full autistic gremlin mode and dominated the other two outgoing extroverts after being dead silent most of the time , starting off with a domestic violence joke and then somehow being the one instead to keep coming up with new topics and keep the discussion going

he mutes his mic at the 29Min mark and begs chat for help
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYDRA1_ZE1E&t=216s

heres the only TL's clips i could find but they barely cover the important parts of the stream , just the surface :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldtnUbOPwDg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOPUHR22y-U&t=5s

They also lack the most important bit : FIELDO FIELDO FIELDO FIELDO which happens at the 1H7min mark https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYDRA1_ZE1E&t=216s


for anyone interested in seeing the whole "Matsuri and Astel bizarre adventure collab" , start watching the VOD from the 25min to 2H mark

>> No.4441846

>>4436622
>this gullible

>> No.4441882
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4441882

>>4437366
On the shota trio.

>> No.4441966
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4441966

>>4439328
>>4436725

he's socially awkward and a massive introvert , you should see his first time interacting with a Hololive member for an entire hour , it was peak comedy gold , that was during an Apex Tournament afterparty

He got randomly shuffled with Matsuri , had to mute VC a couple of times , grief internally , ask chat for help , use weather decks to keep the discussion going only to be roasted by Matsuri and the other guy who he got teamed up with . Then he finally broke out of his shell , went full autistic gremlin mode and dominated the other two outgoing extroverts after being dead silent most of the time , starting off with a domestic violence joke and then somehow being the one instead to keep coming up with new topics and keeping the discussion going

he mutes his mic at the 29Min mark and begs chat for help
https://youtu.be/fYDRA1_ZE1E?t=1733

heres the only TL's clips i could find but they barely cover the important parts of the stream , just the surface :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldtnUbOPwDg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOPUHR22y-U&t=5s

They also lack the most important bit : FIELDO FIELDO FIELDO FIELDO which happens at the 1H7min mark :

https://youtu.be/fYDRA1_ZE1E?t=4041


for anyone interested in seeing the whole "Matsuri and Astel bizarre adventure collab" , start watching the VOD from the 25min to 2H mark

>> No.4441969

>>4440382
I AM TWEETING "ASTEL AN IDIOT" RIGHT NOW

>> No.4442010

>>4441966
Oh come on, he MESSAGED MATULI ON DISCORD AND INVITED HER TO PLAY RIGHT THERE LIVE ON LIVESTREAM

>> No.4442012

>>4440382
I believe more apex.

>> No.4442067

>>4426324
based. now i will sub to him.

>> No.4442351

>>4442010
dont really remember what happened since i only watched that live once and thats it , they did interact before on Holocomi (Roberu , FBK and Matsuri did most of the talking) but in this stream they needed to coordinate and communicate more lol , so Astel had no choice but to break out of his shell

>> No.4442460

AAAA ASTEL IS KILLING EVERYTHING

>> No.4442524
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4442524

>>4426324
imagine having such an autistic hobby and not expecting behavior like this

>> No.4442661

>>4442524
yeah... we should stop watching vtubers

>> No.4442703
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4442703

Looks like weaponized autism won the day.

>> No.4442797
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4442797

>>4442703
more AUTISM and SANITY drop every stream

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.4442815

>>4442703
Max Gamer autism is if he tweets out a screenshot directly to Xanek.

>> No.4442892

>>4442815
God if he does that when he gets master I'll fucking explode from laughter

>> No.4442999

>>4442703
He opened a package from Disney right before this. Disney buff is real.

>> No.4443290

>>4442999
>They couldnt send a superchat so they just sent Disney magic to him directly

>> No.4443548

>>4426754
>You're a fucking jackass, and here's the mathematical proof!

>> No.4443696

>>4426324
A man has to clean his name, sometimes when a disgusting westerner dirt dares to speak out to the masses agaisnt you

>> No.4443978

Na servers do seem to be easier to rat compare to aqua's run because na players drop like flies while jp servers are full of sweaty players camping and edgeguarding until final round.

>> No.4444158

>>4443978
Thats the exact reasoning he goes over during the rant. Jp servers plays more conservative while Na is more aggressive and dies early whether this is due to massive 3rd parting or TTV hot drops. You just use this aggressiveness to your advantage to secure a higher placement so you dont need as many kills to get positive rp.

>> No.4444271

how many vtubers will APEX ruin?
The worst thing ARK has done is create some minor drama from pvp

>> No.4444284

>>4444158
>while Na is more aggressive and dies early
Nah theyre just mentally retarded

I know a seething faggot like you wont believe this but its actually an IQ differential
Thats the difference between playstyle of subhuman losers like the americans and other parts of the world like EU or KR or basically any other asian country

Its literally the levels of intelligence.

>> No.4444356

>>4444284
by asian i mean either kr/jp or bugland

>> No.4444364

>>4428536
the man name searched himself on twitter and put a random nobody viewer on blast to a couple thousand of his fans
in the industry that's called a dick move

>> No.4444616

>>4436124
Not translator.
He can't understand Japanese.
But he timestamp Roberu stream IF translator able to explain what Roberu doing to him.

>> No.4444644

>>4444364
thats called being based and defending yourself from someone calling you toxic

>> No.4444680

>>4444364
yeah, if he is from nijisanji, he will get anally raped by everyone

>> No.4444736

>>4426324
Sounds more like autism than menhera.

>> No.4444747

>>4444644
yeah a 70k twitter account for an "internet famous" person sending fans after someone who has barely 1k followers definitely will not be seen as toxic and proving them right lol

>> No.4444777

How the fuck didn't he realize that Astel was being sarcastic and actually gave "advice" to him?

>> No.4444787

>>4444364
It is even worse when xanek is an actual fan (you can argue he should use milder words on his criticism) and didn't really post under his tags. Honestly, all the holos should stop egosearching in places they shouldn't unless they are mentally strong, just look what happen to aqua.

>> No.4444810

>>4444747
wow my numbers are lower so i can talk all the shit I want!

>> No.4444842

>>4444810
Yes

>> No.4444888
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4444888

>>4426324
>J*U
>Find out Astel had a champion for his last game and ranked up to D1
Quick, someone check that twitter fag's account and see if he's still seething

>> No.4444936

>>4444842
kill yourself

>> No.4444966

>>4444787
He don't deserved being called stupid just because he's a fan? Maybe not talking shit about stuff you don't know jack about next time.

>> No.4444969

>>4444842
Retard. When you speak on an on an open platform you invite everyone unless you orivate your shit. Xanek is going to have the take the L. God these takes are like people when they say, "don't go off on squeakers because their children!". Fuck that shit. Just like the child he went into a space where he can get vitriol sent his way. It's not up to the content creator to do anything. The shitter just needs to be ready.

>> No.4444994

>>4444364
thankfully in japan astel is irrelevant
if an actual holo done something like that, she would get a juicy 5k+ dislike bomb next day

>> No.4445034

>>4444888
did he hit d1? based seaweed

>> No.4445067

>>4444969
>>4444936
take your meds

>> No.4445115

>>4445034
He got two snap kraber headshots during the final fights. It was sick as fuck

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4445203

>>4445067
The guy got shitted on, wasn't even that bad. Fuck, wasn't even "toxic". Get over it. It wasn't even that bad, just based.

>> No.4445249
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4445249

>>4445034
D1, baby
If he gets any more good sessions, he can reach Masters in a stream or two

>> No.4445299

>>4427085
Which is exactly why I hated Calli’s off with their heads song it felt like she made it because of one Twitter interaction. The song felt extremely lazy to me. I actually liked the song more when I didn’t know the context.

>> No.4445409

We need to let APEX die it’s turning Japan into dumbasses again.

>> No.4445703

>>4428902
She need to watch Astel stream to improve.
She could use some of the things Astel teach in the stream.

>> No.4445777

>>4426324
He might be retarded but this is based as fuck

>> No.4445880

>>4438412
I altrady mentioned that time aboutu the project. Another time was even earlier than this and he was crying in his Twitcast account because of JOPs.

>> No.4445915

>>4445703
Change to na server and rat, abandon teammates ruthlessly and get a few kills final round. I doubt she can do this though, she would get flamed and raided worse compare to her initial run by the apexfags.

>> No.4446062
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4446062

Imagine a world where Japan never found out about Apex Legends.

>> No.4446105

>>4446062
Anon, APEX has been inside japan for two years or more. Roboco has been streaming APEX for twice as long, compared to asuterureda and she is so bad still...

>> No.4446330

>>4433355
Subaru is the queen of egosa. Vtubing is definitely are narcissist's dream job.

>> No.4446433

>>4446105
Poor Ponkotsu.

>> No.4446796

>>4435241
Yes and?

>> No.4446871

I don't know anything about the game he's playing but I will say this in his defence. I'm someone who constantly went up and down the rank barrier from people who would play casually and people who started to look and act like pros: it's an entirely different game at that point. Things you never think of doing in casual become critical in pro games.

I have my own gripes about ranked systems but if he's playing against harder opponents then he might be right to question people who play casually.

>> No.4446888

this is the most astel's been talked about outside of /stars/ in a while, maybe he should have this particular genre of autistic meltdowns more often.

>> No.4447022

>>4445203
Ahhh you're a dmcfag that's why you're so cringe

>> No.4447026
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4447026

A day later and the seething continues.
https://twitter.com/AznXanek/status/1399573109682888709

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>>4440382
>make multiple alts posting random reasons as to why his playstyle sucks (I don't even play the game, I'm just making shit up lol)
>he goes on increasingly longer and more incoherent menhera rants about APEX
>clippers pick up on him
>"Astel goes NUCLEAR on antis!", "Holostar APEX pro explains his strats!", etc. uploaded
>hundreds of thousands of views for his insanity
>Holostars finally inclines again, leading the way for StarsEN to finally exist
This is it boys. We can change the Vtubing landscape if we shitpost hard enough.

>> No.4447141

>>4447085
the real million dollar question is would it be enough to make him cry?

>> No.4447166

>>4444364
4chan embraces psychopathic behavior, anon. You knew what this thread was gonna be like the second you walked in.

>> No.4447188

>>4447085
Unless he notices how every account shit talking him is brand new.

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>>4447026
Jesus Christ can this fag just take the L and go? Nobody else is even talking about it at this point but him.

>> No.4447287

>>4444644
Really? Because when this guy is defending himself from Astel's rabid fans >>4447026 I doubt you'd say he's justified in doing that same thing.

Whether he's "good" or not isn't even the argument. Xanek never even mentioned his skill or his rank, he was saying that him refusing to work with his team in a team game is 100% toxic, and nothing Astel ranted about actually addressed that.

>> No.4447323

>>4444364
a BIG DICK move

>> No.4447347

>>4443978
Fuck then aqua should have done her challenge on the NA server. Fucking damn it, she could had been master, did no one suggest this to her back then?

>> No.4447350

>>4447260
Astel got 40 minutes to rant over this guy, and you can't even give him one tweet to defend himself? You guys sure are hypocrites.

>> No.4447355

>>4447287
Not to be a dick but that Xanek guy should learn to read the room and just lay low for a bit.

>> No.4447367

My rating for this whole shitshow:
Astel > Xanek > Astellas

>> No.4447373

>>4447347
Because being the winner of easy mode isn't an accomplishment? Astel's just after the number, Aqua wants to actually BE the best of the best.

>> No.4447436
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>>4447355
Anon, I know this place isn't exactly the Roman Forum, so I can't expect perfectly sound arguments, but even here, I'm not gonna defend hypocrisy. Xanek AT LEAST gets 40 minutes to defend himself, because Astel had at least that much time.

>> No.4447446

>>4447373
Wouldn’t be on the NA server be harder since there the lag and NA is more competitive than Japan server plus japan service is full of cheaters and stream snipers? If she wanted challenge than NA would be way better than the Japan server.

>> No.4447450

>>4447347
I think they intentionally kept quiet.
So Baqua will get PTSD from APEX after her failure.
Her fans really don't like her playing APEX ranked, since she is bad.

>> No.4447497

>>4447446
Astel has definitely been beamed around corners thanks to the lag.

>> No.4447538

>>4447436
I'm just saying that at this point there's no point nor reason to keep fanning the flames. Just cut your losses and move on.

>> No.4447580
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4447580

>>4446888
/vt/ just loves drama

>> No.4447607

>>4447350
One tweet? It wasn't even just one tweet. The man made a dozen threads over on his twitter even after Astel was done.
Astel didn't even namedrop the guy during his "bootcamp" last night, he just gave an explanation for why he was playing the way he was which prioritizes RP gain through conservative ratting over the method that Xanek wants him to follow (who, mind you, was found to have peaked at Gold 2)
Astel DID actually go for team play back when he started at D4 and what happened? He was stuck at D4 for a good while and it was when he switched to his current playstyle that he ranked up much more quickly (1 9-hour stream for D3 to D2, 1 9-hour stream for D2 to D1 as compared to the 19-hour D4 hell Astel went through)
Yes, it might not look as enjoyable (and might not even BE enjoyable for Astel) but this method has produced great results and Astel might as well stick to it if he wants to achieve his goal of solo masters before his birthday on the 6th.

>> No.4447615

>>4447538
His argument wasn't even addressed; he called him toxic because he was abandoning his teammates, his rank has nothing to do with it. He's getting all this hate for an argument he never even brought up, he has every right to vent.

>> No.4447651

>>4447347
Honestly, I believe Aqua was skilled enough to actually reach masters solo. Her only mistake was starting her challenge way too close to the split when the cheaters started increasing in number.

>> No.4447652

>>4447497
I mean aqua choosing the NA server would be perfect for her since she even has the perfect excuse, ame. Just pass it off as her getting use to it so they can collab. Fuck it, now I am pissed that no one offer this advice to aqua. She tried so fucking hard and none of her fan even offer this advice to her? We could have witnessed history.

>> No.4447810

>>4444364
And in the real world, the rule is "talk shit, get hit."

>> No.4447869

>>4447607
Astel airdropped 60,000 people to come and talk shit in his replies anyone would get defensive after that lmao
poor guy probably still has unusable DMs at this point

>> No.4447883

>>4447607
>The man made a dozen threads over on his twitter even after Astel was done.
Post 'em, then
>Astel didn't even namedrop the guy during his "bootcamp" last night
And yet everyone knew exactly who he was talking about. It's almost like you don't need to directly say someone's name in order to reference them.
>He was stuck at D4 for a good while and it was when he switched to his current playstyle that he ranked up much more quickly
Which IS toxic, because he's playing a team game while not helping his team. If his message was "Yeah, I'm fuckin' toxic, and if you don't wanna play with me on your team, then just quit", then he would've had a point, but he never said anything along those lines, which means he actually does care about "being toxic", and is trying to make excuses for it.

Actually, when you think about it that way, this doesn't even seem like Astel's OR Xanek's fault. It seems more like APEX is a poorly designed team-based game that discourages teamwork at its highest ranks. Why the hell are japs so addicted to this thing?

>> No.4447901

>>4426324
There's nothing mentalhealther about it, no.

>> No.4447907

>>4447615
Except it was. Astel had brought up a point last night about teammates and how he's aware that shitty, reckless teammates (especially if they're D4) can only cost you a match if they die early due to their decisions, leaving you to work your way through the match alone and make sure you actually manage to gain any RP before dying.
His last match today had better teammates and he ended up working well with them to get a champion as well as a hefty +202 RP gain (which finally boosted him to Dia I)
At this point, Xanek can't even use the "I can't understand Japanese" argument because I saw a live translator during that little Apex lesson.

>> No.4447919

>>4447615
His rank does have a lot to do with it. In fact abandoning teammates is a legitimate strat when they'll just bring you down. You can ask for the mans stats just to see if the person has any legs to stand on. The skill gap from lower ranked players and higher ranked players is massive. Astel has every right to call him out, just like how Xanek has every right to vent. Just understand that Xanek is the fucking clown because he doesn't actually know what the fuck he's talking about.

>> No.4447995

>>4447901
I don't know, it sounds pretty mentalhealther to obsess over a single person's tweet to me.

>> No.4448202

I don't play Apex, explain to me why his play style is bad. Will his teammate lose point or gain point if he win by using hide strat ?

>> No.4448212
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4448212

>>4447869
In all honesty, both parties were in the wrong for this whole situation
Xanek for not bothering to censor Astel's name (when he, as a long time stars fan, should be aware of Astel's menhera egosearching tendencies like that of most talents) and continuing to talk about this situation hours later when most have moved on
And Astel for bothering to respond in the first place and letting the tweet live rent free in his head
At this point I'm just tired of the drama and want everything to settle back down again. Can't believe the 1st of June is starting off this way...

>> No.4448256

>retards on /vt championing over a menhera retard doing something un-idol like to a backseating retard
apex is a fucking mistake

>> No.4448280

>>4448256
who said astel is an idol

>> No.4448327

>>4448212
As long as vtubing remains an industry with humans there will always be human drama involved with it, sucks but it's true

>> No.4448331

>>4447350
Go suck dick elsewhere, faggot.

>> No.4448394

>>4448280
do you believe astel is not an idol?

>> No.4448422

>>4447085
>Clipfag starts drama with clapfag and takes thing out of context
Would be kino

>> No.4448475

Sorta lucky astel fanbase is much smaller, if this was kuzuha doing something like this, you can expect massive flaming shitstorm, just look what happen to chihiro with 10k dislikes.

>> No.4448477

>>4447085
As much as this would bring attention towards Astel I feel like if this blew up any more he might actually be forced to apologize, Xanek is obviously pretty butthurt about this still, Astel only gets away with a lot of shit he does since he's a smaller vtuber

>> No.4448491

>>4447907
>and how he's aware that shitty, reckless teammates (especially if they're D4) can only cost you a match if they die early due to their decisions
But could they even get to that rank if they were actually that bad? Isn't Diamond supposed to be an incredibly high rank in that game?

>>4448331
I see plenty of dicksuckers in this thread, and lots of blue pubes hanging from their mouths

>> No.4448499

>>4447188
most anti shittalking accounts are throwaways so that's nothing special

>> No.4448500

>>4448475
What happened with Chihiro?

>> No.4448509

>>4448256
>a competitive player explaining himself to a casual retard who feels the need to tell said competitive player how to play while also having no idea what he's talking about
>this is bad
Only an emotional thinking faggot would think this is bad.

>> No.4448515

>>4448477
it's true, Astel literally only avoided getting any consequences because he is comparatively a nobody compared to other vtubers
if he was any bigger he would have attracted attention on both the En and Jp side and been forced to do an apology or face 10k dislikes

>> No.4448550

>>4448491
>But could they even get to that rank if they were actually that bad?
This is why i say you're a dick sucker, you defend a random twitter fag while having no idea what you're talking about, just like him. Off yourself.

>> No.4448552

>>4448202
As you climb ranks, wiping out early will cost you more rank points because the "entry fee" costs more.
You can net a few points if you kill/assist. These points are multiplied by your team's final position in the game. Therefore it's pretty dangerous to take early battles and risk wiping early.
It's even more dangerous at higher ranks because everyone knows this strategy, so they will look to be the 3rd party in fights to gain the upper hand.
If two teams are fighting, there's a good chance a 3rd party will hear it and rush in to clean them both up.
Fleeing from fights to survive until the last few circles eases the point loss, and your teammates will also lose less points if they decide to stay and spectate you. You also have the chance to pick off people who are in a similar situation, adding more to your points.
Finally, the game can't tell if you're ditching your teammates or helping them because there's no system to assign points that way. That means you won't be rewarded for fighting alongside your teammates to your demise, or punished for abandoning them.
Because of all the above, fleeing and hiding is a valid, but ungraceful strategy.

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4448577

>>4448475
>>4448515
It makes me wonder how much other on-stream Stars drama went under the radar because of how no one watched them. Maybe one of them mentioned Taiwan before even Haato did, and the chinks didn't meltdown because they didn't even know they existed.

>> No.4448584

>>4448202
If its the worse case scenario and his team runs in and dies instantly he can recoup their entry cost by just ratting it out until he hits second place.

>> No.4448590

>>4448552
Will the dead dude still gain point if Astel win?
>>4448491
There's a reason they're stuck at D4 and Astel was Master twice and soon to be thrice.

>> No.4448600

>>4448475
Isn't Kuzuha known for being ridiculously salty/toxic? Or was that just his roommate when he was younger?

>> No.4448611

>>4448590
Yes, if Astel wins, the team as a whole gets points for being 1st place.

>> No.4448613

>>4448509
he could have just ignored the fucking tweet and silently prove himself by inevitably reaching master rank, but chose to let the tweet to be rent free on his head, giving credibility to the criticism

>> No.4448630

>>4448500
Got flamed awhile back by antis when she bothered to respond to them. Chihiro unfortunately has the habit of taking everything an anti says to heart instead of just ignoring them.
She ended up taking a break for some period of time last year due to stress.

>> No.4448640

>>4448577
I'd say Izuru's meltdown over EOPs in his chat from a year ago wouldn't have been received so well had he had more subscribers.

>> No.4448641

>>4448550
>This is why i say you're a dick sucker, you defend a random twitter fag while having no idea what you're talking about, just like him. Off yourself.
I'm defending a guy getting witchhunted for a single tweet, yes. If I'm wrong, then prove it. Why would one of the highest ranks in APEX have so many bad players?

>> No.4448656

>>4448613
>tweet to be rent free on his head
Holy shit, go back.

>> No.4448658

>>4448613
that's not how it works. acknowledging it is not credibility. real life is not fucking 4chan where you "win" if you get a (you)

>> No.4448662

>>4448552
so, in short the strat is benefiting both the player and the retarded teammates? how can anyone sperg about it then

>> No.4448669

>>4448611
Then what the fuck are they complaining for? Is this whole thread is just Xakek and his Butt-Fucking-Friends going for damage control?
Stop bothering the man doing his challenge. I would hate to see a repeat of Aqua.

>> No.4448675

>>4448491
Anyone can reach D4 by just pouring time into the game by getting maybe 1 or 2 kills and dying early or midgame. Surviving the fight and upcoming fights to the end is what separates the good from the bad.

>> No.4448702

>>4448662
>boring to watch
>kind of a dick move anyway
Those seem to be the main two complains from that one Twitter guy.

>> No.4448712

>>4448552
Would like to add on that 99% of the time Astel's teammates have dropped as soon as their banner goes gray, they don't even wait to see if he can net them some points.

>> No.4448727

>>4447883
it doesnt discourage anything, its all a problem just because corporate vtubers cant use voice chat

>> No.4448730
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4448730

>>4448202
The higher your rank is, the greater your "entry fee" is so there's also a huge emphasis on finishing at a higher placement. Image attached should explain things.

>> No.4448736

>>4448702
he should speak for himself. plenty of people enjoy watching astel play. i'd rather him win than kill himself for the sake of stupid teammates just to avoid being "toxic"

>> No.4448740

>>4444842
Unironically, kill yourself faggot

>> No.4448763

>>4448641
Play the fucking game and maybe you'll know, quit defending people while talking out of your ass. Diamond is normally the end goal for most players, what Astel is doing now is pretty much what it was like for them to get into Diamond. D4 players are normally the bottom of the barrel for "higher tier" players, this could be a mix of people who were carried to diamond to people who only strive to get diamond then give up. They're glorified plat players. Even in Masters you'll find shitty teammates too, some people are just shitty teammates in general and its best to drop them rather than risk RP on them.

>> No.4448787

>>4444842
sorry xanek, you're learning the hard way that it doesn't work like that

>> No.4448800

>>4448702
>kind of a dick move anyway
literally shitters' cope

>> No.4448826

>>4448656
stream rules says otherwise, retardchama
>>4448658
not knowing how nip internet culture works is not going to do any favors, see >>4448475

>> No.4448844

reposting this
https://youtu.be/uHnfQpliqBc?t=25

>> No.4448845

Thank for the explanations.
So what I get from this are Astel did nothing wrong and the only people claiming that he's being toxic are shitter that didn't even play the game. He being kind enough to explain it to them for 40min in stream even being taken at a personal attack because they're just that self-centered.

>> No.4448871

>>4448641
>Why would one of the highest ranks in APEX have so many bad players?
Why don't you compare every Dia chuubas like Matsuri, Towa, Aqua, Chihiro, Ratna Petit, Kuzuha, etc and try telling me whether or not they're all equal in skill?

>> No.4448906

>>4448845
Yes.

>> No.4448975

>>4448845
it doesnt matter if hes right or not
the argument itself is completely irrelevant
his mistake is in responding to this bullshit
hes lucky his fanbase is 80% eop cocksuckers, otherwise he would be fucked

>> No.4449006

>>4448975
this unironically

>> No.4449020

To be fair, there were rounds where astel got tilted and pretty much ditch his teammates randomly, basically judging his team based on nothing. There was this round where he ditched his team and got kill himself and the solo teammate managed to solo a few kills and place high in placement for him. That teammate he ditched carry him kekw.

>> No.4449046

>>4448662
>>4448669
>Then what the fuck are they complaining for?
>how can anyone sperg about it then
It's an ungraceful strat that isn't in the spirit of teamwork or honor. It's "dirty".
It's similar to how people get pissed off at camping in FPS games, even though its a valid strategy that punishes an aggressor for running headfirst into a defended lane thinking they're hot shit.
Xanek and others can complain and backseat as much as they want. It isn't going to help Astel get to Master. In fact it will hurt him.
They fail to understand that dying early with your team in APEX, as honorable as it is, will make his Master grind significantly tougher. He's at a communication disadvantage so he can't work with his team as effectively and steamroll people or 3rd party others in the early rounds like you see at very high-level tournament-style gameplay.

>> No.4449059

>>4449020
>twitch speak
You dont belong here, fuck off.

>> No.4449170

>>4449046
lmao they sound like the RTS """players""" who refuse to micro their units because "it's not what the developers intended". The game is a game, there's a goal and you have to achieve it.

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>>4426324
Now that I think about it, how does Astel's strats in his solo masters climb compare to that of others like, say, ShibuHal? Were they more aggresive than Astel or did they also rat their way to complete their challenge?

>> No.4449278

>>4449191
Shibuhal and gorilla are far more cooperative in pushing and attacking together during early game, gorilla will ditch when its 1v3 but he will come back to take their banners if there is a chance. They are playing at jp servers though.

>> No.4449294

>>4448975
there's nothing wrong responding to tweets, get over it.

>> No.4449305

>>4448845
People are making it sound like Astel's bootcamp was some meltdown or attack on the guy but I saw it as him acknowledging some people really might not understand what he's doing when he plays, so he chose to explain what's at stake and his strategy so that people watching can understand and thus possibly enjoy the stream better.

I do agree he shouldn't have responded at all, but I don't think him explaining his strategy to viewers should be a big deal.

>> No.4449333

>>4449191
pakael and noah didnt rat as much, though they are better players than aqua and astel

>> No.4449435

>>4449305
it was a meltdown, look at new rules he added to description

>> No.4449472

>>4449191
I can only speak of Aqua's attempt at it.
Aqua did much the same thing (ratting), and sometimes her rando teammates did the same if she and her other teammate died early.
There were some complaints in chat and on here that Aqua ratting TOO much and fleeing situations too soon where helping her teammates could've resulted in a team wipe, granting her team more points. She was mostly afraid of 3rd parties coming in and fucking shit up.
Later on in her grind she started being a little more aggressive, helping her teammates beat the other team if she felt confident that a 3rd party wasn't going to happen.
However if she noticed a 3rd party coming she'd try to ping her teammates to retreat and avoid being pincered by the team they're fighting and the 3rd party that just came.
Sometimes her rando team would pick up on this.
Other times, it would get ignored and Aqua's teammates would fall, causing Aqua to flee.
The worst result of this fleeing was that one game where her teammate chatted "fucking noob" to her, to which she replied "sry". That teammate ended up sending his friends and twitch viewers to harass her and shit up her chat with a bunch of Chinese spam (the teammate was Taiwanese). Said teammate would later restream her gameplay on twich and shit all over it.

>> No.4449503

>>4449333
Noah ratted like crazy when she felt things werent in her favor. Especially when she thought someone was hacking. Noah is more than willing to let her team die if she knows she can survive. I love her for it though.

>> No.4449702

>>4449472
What the fuck. She did nothing wrong. That seem like the perfect strategy for me especially for someone that is aiming for solo master quest. Once again it is the chinks. Fuck the chinks, I don’t give a shit if he is Taiwanese or not but this is definitely chinks blood at work. Got his name?

>> No.4449707

>>4449472
it's not easy to discern what the best decision is even for a good player because there are too many variables in the game. sometimes trusting your teammates is the right decision, sometimes it isn't. but in the long run, i think the best strat is to play it safe and rat. so yeah, aqua and astel have the right idea

>> No.4449747

there are not nearly as much 3rd parties on world edge in comparison with kings canyon or olympus
its a good map to take fights on

>> No.4449756

Since there are a lot of apex expert in this so I have to ask. Had there been a female vtuber that reached master solo?

>> No.4449764

>>4447373
cant even properly down an open enemy with 1 mag

>> No.4449796

>>4449472
The difference between shibuhal, gorilla, aqua and astel is pretty much pinging issue. Astel would only ping once or not pinging at all while the others would spam pings to tardwraggle their team.

I am an apex master rank player myself, i would probably be mad if someone just ditch during middle of fight without at least pinging.

>> No.4449819 [DELETED] 

>>4449756
Bora

>> No.4449848

>>4447651
Cheaters were not her problem anon

>> No.4449944

>>4449756
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I think Kurumi Noah made it.

>> No.4449964

>>4447651
holofans sure love to overrate her skills
on what basis i wonder
perhaps they never seen a master play

>> No.4450003

>>4449756
noah did, though not for full 7200-10000 afair
naraka also fell like 50 rp short and lost to servers maintenance, shouldve started her run earlier

>> No.4450251

>>4449819
Was with reid

>> No.4450281

https://apex.tracker.gg/apex/profile/origin/AznXanek/overview
Pfft

>> No.4450348

>>4449964
This
Bunch of free kills just escape her coz she cant properly beam someone down even when theyre open

>> No.4450351

>>4449964
Does a master rank player like me who watches aqua and other chuubas count? If she form a team, she probably reach master rank, solo has too much variables and depends on another playstyle. Aqua does have consistent aim and tilting issues though but her aim improve a lot during her master climb and she always has good movement. It's not like master rank players have no weakness, i probably lose to astel in a mid range spray battle. I would take a 1v1 mastiff duel against astel though since his mastiff duel movement is too easy to read, static at times and his mastiff shots are slower.

>> No.4450573

>>4447651
During her stream at that time, there are zero or barely cheater in the server.
Her only problem is her single digit IQ can't adapt to high diamonds games.

>> No.4450671

>>4449944
>>4450003
Thanks anons.

>> No.4450805

>>4448491
>But could they even get to that rank if they were actually that bad?
Actually Yes. If you played, you should realize APEX has flaw in the ranking system.
One of them is how D4 player can't derank back to Platinum. No matter how bad they played.

>> No.4452401
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4452401

>look up Astel's name on twitter
>see someone quote rt a /vt/ cap of this thread

Oh no no no don't let him find this place.

>> No.4452464

>>4428055
>He's biting the hand that feeds.
also the hand that hits

>> No.4452619

>one of the biggest astel simps is a total sperg with no self consciousness
why my boy can't catch a break

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