/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

WE DID IT

U-uooh?

Gura singing debuff is real

>>44214998

* FINAL 24HRS VOD TALLY FOR 03/01/2023 *
(View growth after 1 hour at end of each line)
>352,402 Sakura Miko (COVER) (36.7%)
>278,894 Oozora Subaru (COVER) (146.1%)
>272,876 NeruMero (Indie) (122.1%)
>266,157 NeruMero (Indie) (186.7%)
>254,937 Aizawa Ema (Brave Group) (31.1%)
>245,272 Amane Kanata (COVER) (88.0%)
>218,472 Hakui Koyori (COVER) (22.3%)
>197,203 Fuwa Minato (ANYCOLOR) (80.6%)
>194,161 Shibuya HAL (Neo-Porte) (544.5%)
>191,920 Tsunomaki Watame (COVER) (19.0%)
>177,396 Kobo Kanaeru (COVER) (180.5%)
>168,488 Yashiro Kizuku (ANYCOLOR) (64.9%)
>157,391 Mori Calliope (COVER) (175.3%)
>153,250 Genshin Mosu (Indie) (47.1%)

>>44214998
CHUUU

For someone claimed to be "reclining", this thread and the whole board moves too fast whenever Gura streams

>>44215009
she inclined during her last song though

https://twitter.com/nasdaily/status/1630963896222711809

>>44214931
Recent clip numbers
>>44156464
>>44156495
>>44156526
>>44156552
>>44156591

>1500
/#/ is healing

It will be officially GRIM if the Myth collab doesn't reach at least 80k

It's over...

>>44215051
it's fun to shit on chumkek

>>44214931
Neru-chan UOOOOHHGHGHH

>>44215051
Hardcore audience is still there, and being on this board already puts you above being a casual for the most part. It's the tourist/casual audience that is slowly fading

>>44215075
The Myth collab will likely hard cap at 40k

This thread will be better

gura gold, nijinogs seething impotently and a good show overall. What a good day.

kronii's 3d will save EN

>>44214931

*YESTERDAY'S FINAL TALLY*
>42,700: Mio (Hololive)
>33,682: Pekora (Hololive)
>24,629: Miko (Hololive)
>24,363: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>21,241: Kanata (Hololive)
>20,458: Nene (Hololive)
>19,249: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>18,027: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>17,010: Towa (Hololive)
>16,111: Iroha (Hololive)
>13,580: Subaru (Hololive)
>11,945: Hal (Neo Porte)
>11,621: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>11,211: Hayato (Nijisanji)
>10,761: Koyori (Hololive)
>10,631: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>10,430: Watame (Hololive)
>10,141: Lize (Nijisanji)

>>44214998
Jesas Christ

>>44215060
sirs this is an image board so please do the needful

Here's your number predictions, didn't see a lot of them this time

Some underpredictions, lots of overpredictions
If you got it right you were a rarity

https://youtu.be/live/UNtM4Ks-cSE
Might just be me but her chest looks bigger. Now it looks much more like her 2D.

>>44214886
FUCKING TRUUUUUUUE
what time did gura stream her first 3D live? wasn't it around EST?
and that net her a 90k stream?
Imagine pandering to LA time to get ESLs from japan THAT WOULD BE WORKING DURING THOSE HOURS!!!! this is the shit you get for not using EST

grim bros the day is ours

tomorrow grimbros will have a feast

If the EN market is dead where did the 93k people for IRyS 2.0 come from? Western viewers simply aren't are willing to subject themselves to the same content over and over on a loop like JP are. People are literally just waiting for EN3 or literally anything new or interesting to happen. A redesign is interesting. New girls are interesting. A low effort Kanaru slide show is not interesting.

Ok, now explain to me why mentioning VOD views is a cope?

Great stream followed by coming to /#/ to read all the hilarious shitposters trying their best to insult everything in sight. What a good night, thankyou for your hard work guys

>>44215051
No.1 vtuber makes people seethe.

Holy rent free!

>>44215075
shitposterchama its the HoloEN channel, it'll be lucky to hit 40k.

>PekoMarine was a bigger debuff
BanpirGODS, status?

>>44215075
>holoen channel
lol
lmao even

>>44215075
It could unironically be lower than Ina's 3D showcase

Pippa's numbers status??

More cover office talk
https://twitter.com/cover_corp/status/1631489575574200322
https://note.com/cover_corp/n/n4bb99b978c1e

>>44214315
/HIRyS/ isn't some accident. That is how IRyS' fanbase mostly is. They are schizo and insane in their devotion to IRyS and only IRyS.

En management rihgt now:
>YOSH! YOSH! YOSH! We managed to avoid reaching 100K! Let's goooooo!

>>44215175
>MARCH 2023 GOLDS
1) Nerumero (Indie) - 32,543 - Genshin gacha
2) Mio (Hololive) - 42,700 - Mahjong tournament

>PER COMPANY
1x: Hololive, Indie

>PER STREAMER
1x: Mio, Nerumero

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
45x: Hololive
13x: Nijisanji
2x: Indie
1x: VSPO

>PER STREAMER
20x: Pekora
5x: Marine
3x: Mio, Toya
2x: Kuzuha, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Okayu, Subaru, Towa
1x: Choco, Gaku, Himawari, Hinano, Hololive, Ina, Kiara, Koyori, Lamy, Miko, Mito, Mori, Nozomi, Polka, Roco, Suisei, Watame, Yashiro

>>44215224
it's not clear how long a viewer watches for

Ame won't be able to get anyone but B-listers like Roboco, Mel and Haachama.
39k

imagine if we got en3 instead of leeches
there would still be hype and new viewers for these events
en management are malicious and sabotage everything girl related but gladly suck the boys' dick

>>44215300
>blaming en management again

>>44215075
It will be lucky to get 40K on that channel.

>>44215139
and tourist care about shitposting Gura more than idol Gura

>>44215051
No, anon, she is a reclining irrelevant shark and I'm going to prove it to you by spamming on cooldown for 6 hours every single time she streams

>>44215255
kappu kappu

>Has the longest JP segment
>Given the worst a timeslot for JP viewers
Bravo Cover

>>44215075
>holoen channel
>Mori debuff
>Kiara debuff
>Takamori debuff
>Kiara debuff again
45k

>>44215285
Honestly based I can respect that

>>44215269
/News/ anchor

>>44215285
Maybe they should listen to her music then.

chumbuds on endless cope
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay0o_Mfhhik

I wonder if CoverJP finally realizes how badly EN is mismanaged. Or do you think they’re going to wait 24 hours to VOD cope?

>>44215233
What's the source for these SC numbers?
Hololyzer is reporting different numbers for Ina and Kiara
Ina: ¥881,093
Kiara: ¥1,688,609

post the chat overlaps

*YESTERDAY'S FINAL EN TALLY*

>3/2 DAILY TALLY
8,614: Vox (Nijisanji)
7,848: Fauna (Hololive)
6,998: Shu (Nijisanji)
6,649: IRyS (Hololive)
6,631: Mori (Hololive)
5,187: Amelia (Hololive)
5,074: Vox (Nijisanji)


>EN GOLDS FOR MARCH 2023
1) Mori (Hololive) - 18,696 - Monopoly (w/ Amelia, Magni, Vesper)
2) Vox (Nijisanji) - 8,614 - Return Stream

>PER COMPANY
1x: Hololive, Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
1x: Mori, Vox

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
5p: Mori, Vox
3p: Mysta, Fauna
1p: Shu

>>44215163
>gura gold
Don't celebrate too early, because there's still the 3D debut later, and I have no idea what she'll get. It could be a lot.

so ladies if you all could migrate to /mans/ that be great

#s didnt get to hit 300 ips

declining. #s is washed up.

>>44215426
chumbud act cocky but always cope in the end

>>44215224
They're streamers first, if VODs are your first concern just become an old school Vtuber and make curated videos

where the fuck was my gura 80k
where did it all go wrong
barely above ina?
ffs

>>44215349
So, bigger buff than pekomari?

>>44215397
Even that is optomistic imo
35-45k
Though I'm still okay with it being on that channel because they should have been using it for SOMETHING the past 3 years besides the occasional song

>>44215075
What did the ID one get? If I remember correctly it was significantly lower than the individual showcases.

I think they are reserving their performances for the myth event. That could be the reason why the singing is sparse

>>44215075
>80k
>in 2023

>>44215462
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
40x: Hololive
19x: Nijisanji
2x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
8x: Mori
6x: Amelia
5x: Mumei, Baelz
4x: Ina, IRyS
3x: Mysta, Fauna, Vox
2x: Selen, Pomu, Kronii, Gura
1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, Luxiem, Finana, Millie, Luca, Regis, Enna, Rosemi, Kiara

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
49p: Mumei
48p: Mori
46p: Ina
44p: Fauna
43p: Amelia
40p: Baelz
38p: IRyS
31p: Vox
27p: Mysta
18p: Kiara
17p: Kronii
16p: Luca
13p: Selen
10p: Pomu, Gura
9p: Millie, Enna, Ike
8p: Finana, Uki
7p: Regis
5p: Flayon, Alban, Elira, Luxiem, Rosemi
4p: Vesper
3p: Sonny, Hakka, Magni
1p: Meloco, Shinri, Gavis, Axel, Maria, Shu

>>44215435
Hololyzer an hour after their stream is done

>>44215502
>They're streamers
Not according to Cover

Moona got 87K was because of towa. EN biggest mistake was they're not inviting towa to their showcase. stupid EN

>>44215224
It doesn't fit with the narrative that she's irrelevant

>>44215051
Gura's antis love her too much

here is a number for you

>>44214998
genuinely the most unpleasant part of the stream

>>44215502
I'm pretty sure vods are kind of the whole basis around their youtube monetization...

>>44215285
She doesnt have a gen, it resulted in High subs because people think she is special at 1st but then there is no gen unity to boost her up.

Holy dead hours. Kaela? Koyori? Help.

>>44215051
Yep, to shit on cumpedo
The most obnoxious fanbase after kfc

>>44214559
>It's on a massive decline
Retard. The market is on a decline, but it is not massive.
One of the ways to measure if they are on a massive decline is if the management keeps overestimating the demand of limited edition merch. But the reverse is true.

>>44215515
Let's see
>JP segment for the beginning
>retarded kanauru shit
>while I liked the songs, literally only 3 JP ones
>MATH, MATH MATH mAth MTH MH
All that mixed with the fact that it's noon on a workday in Area 11.

>>44215051
>ENfags prefer to shitpost instead of watching Gawr "10 trillions subs" Gura
Grim.

>>44215529
Yeah only 30k with insane JP overlap

it would've been better if the math part was 5 minutes shorter

>>44215573
nah, streaming regularly and 3 times a week was a requirement

>>44215421
Didn't say they were large in number, that isolation from everyone else could even explain the subpar music views

>gura high numbers make schizos seethe
>gura low numbers make schizos seethe
how do you explain this?

February superchats
Hololive
>1. Sakamata Chloe - $62,924
>2. Nekomata Okayu - $40,172
>3. Hakui Koyori - $39,886
>4. Mori Calliope - $33,965
>5. Houshou Marine - $32,671
>6. Yukihana Lamy - $27,823
>7. Inugami Korone - $23,147
>8. Kazama Iroha - $22,861
>9. Hakos Baelz - $20,689
>10. IRyS - $20,023
>11. Takanashi Kiara - $19,387
>12. Ceres Fauna - $18,214
>13. Oozora Subaru - $18,052
>14. Tsunomaki Watame - $16,724
>15. Amane Kanata - $16,253
>16. Kaela Kovalskia - $15,985
>17. Shiranui Flare - $15,319
>18. Shirogane Noel - $15,073
>19. Usada Pekora - $14,177
>20. Gawr Gura - $12,807
>21. Tokoyami Towa - $12,067
>22. Sakura Miko - $11,562
>23. Ninomae Ina'nis - $9,810
>24. Momosuzu Nene - $9,598
>25. Laplus Darknesss - $9,351
>26. Ouro Kronii - $9,289
>27. Murasaki Shion - $7,919
>28. Himemori Luna - $7,306
>29. Shirakami Fubuki - $7,014
>30. Natsuiro Matsuri - $6,854
>31. Nanashi Mumei - $6,398
>32. Minato Aqua - $6,157
>33. Aki Rosenthal - $5,934
>34. Shishiro Botan - $5,712
>35. Yozora Mel - $5,602
>36. Yuzuki Choco - $5,592
>37. Takane Lui - $5,511
>38. Pavolia Reine - $5,438
>39. Vestia Zeta - $5,129
>40. Moona Hoshinova - $4,494
>41. Watson Amelia - $4,470
>42. Kureiji Ollie - $3,746
>43. Omaru Polka - $3,665
>44. Tokino Sora - $3,263
>45. AZKi - $2,859
>46. Anya Melfissa - $2,640
>47. Kobo Kanaeru - $2,333
>48. Hoshimachi Suisei - $2,178
>49. Akai Haato - $1,771
>50. Airani Iofifteen - $1,736
>51. Roboco - $1,469
>52. Nakiri Ayame - $1,169
>53. Ayunda Risu - $1,025
>54. Hololive - $300

>>44215502
Vods dont matter in twitch because no one watches them and Twitch doesnt pay for shit. Also they get deleted in 3 months anyways. Completly ignoring VODs would make you a twitch nig.

>>44215747
>high numbers

>>44215704
nigga it won't even pass Ina without the kanauuru and math meme

>>44215075
It probably won't beat Mori's showcase and it might not even beat Kiaras if they spend a lot of time on lame skits.

>>44215075
25k take it or leave it

>>44215705
nijinog don't pretend to be a holofan

still shitposting on adrenaline? take deep breaths and calm down.

The mental breakdowns you guys have over CCV is genuinely bizarre. Especially for a glorified premiere.

>>44215747
there are 2 schizos

>>44215573
>Not bound to only live streaming
>It means they are not streamers
I don't think it means what you think it means

>>44215435
picrel is rank based on Hololyzer data

So what could threaten Gura global gold?

>>44215754
Nijisanji
>1. Fushimi Gaku - $40,839
>2. Lauren Iroas - $37,681
>3. Hex Haywire - $34,584
>4. Oliver Evans - $33,739
>5. Kaida Haru - $33,621
>6. Ibrahim - $33,464
>7. Fuwa Minato - $32,486
>8. Shirayuki Tomoe - $32,141
>9. Scarle Yonaguni - $28,301
>10. Sophia Valentine - $21,259
>11. Vox Akuma - $17,532
>12. Pomu Rainpuff - $17,505
>13. Ishigami Nozomi - $17,172
>14. Kagami Hayato - $16,777
>15. Watarai Hibari - $16,754
>16. Igarashi Rika - $16,553
>17. Yumeoi Kakeru - $15,538
>18. Kanae - $15,400
>19. Enna Alouette - $13,229
>20. Alban Knox - $12,479
>21. Kaburaki Roco - $11,913
>22. Sonny Brisko - $11,512
>23. Yuki Chihiro - $11,458
>24. Doppio Dropscythe - $10,530
>25. Leos Vincent - $10,483
>26. Kenmochi Toya - $10,121
>27. Selen Tatsuki - $10,080
>28. Hyakumantenbara Salome - $10,041
>29. Furen E Lustario - $9,887
>30. Yorumi Rena - $9,620
>31. Kuzuha - $9,331
>32. Seraph Dazzlegarden - $9,331
>33. Uki Violeta - $8,978
>34. Hakase Fuyuki - $8,397
>35. Uzuki Kou - $7,919
>36. Aia Amare - $7,863
>37. Inui Toko - $7,851
>38. Gaon - $7,817
>39. Luca Kaneshiro - $7,625
>40. Koshimizu Toru - $7,146
>41. Fura Kanato - $7,007
>42. Mysta Rias - $6,887
>43. Machita Chima - $6,442
>44. Ike Eveland - $6,133
>45. Kuramochi Meruto - $6,049
>46. Ver Vermillion - $5,893
>47. Higuchi Kaede - $5,497
>48. Elira Pendora - $5,157
>49. Ars Almal - $4,953
>50. Fulgur Ovid - $4,873

>>44215555
En just need pander the tranny and get good number,today stream tell us tranny rule En market

>>44215837
Both of them are gay

I predicted 60k for Gura. Remember that JP are working at this time; unable to watch the stream Live. I wonder what the total views will be tomorrow?
Gracious of Gura to take this time slot.

>>44215704
Remove your last sentence and I'd agree with you. She's a HoloEN member and she should be streaming for the EN audience.

>>44215825
where do you think you are

this just proves that
EST > other shitter timezones
EST is PURE American prime time.
this cope that "P-PST IS US PRIME TIME" is laughable kek
she would have gotten more if she didn't stream at an hour where some EST Chads had to sleep early for work in the morning.
at least with EST you can get mostly everyone in NA to watch you.

>comparing a Friday morning slot where EU sleeps and JP is at work to the other girls who all had Saturday/Sunday and thus all the JP tourists were able to tune in for those
Definitely not shitposting!

>>44215747
nah people just want to shit on chumbud how is that hard to understand?

>>44215529
lower then any of the individual streamers

>>44215856
niji3D
Gura gonna slip

>>44215856
Niji 3D debut

>>44215051
/hlgg/ 86.51 (peaked at ~90)
/#/ 24.45 (peaked at ~25)
/ggg/ 24.43 (peaked at ~25)
Plus assorted catalog baits

Yeah, Gura dominates /vt/

>>44215730
Yeah that and the burger Jap song are the only thing that should have changed. Gura Wouldnt remove pekomari or any of the Hololive shilling but those 2 things could have been changed.

>>44215364
ummm yes otherrfucker who scheduled the live for today motherfucker?????
who scheduled it for today? MANAGEMENT SCHEDULED IT FOR TODAY!!
NOT GURA!
MANAGEMENT SCHEDULED IT NOT GURA SO MANAGEMENT IS TO BLAME HERE PURELY AND EXCLUSIVELY

>>44215224
people just scrolling through the VOD is not equal to watching and it still count as 1 view

If they were gonna do Thursday anyway, why the fuck not let Gura stream in her actual timeslot?

>>44215747
Gura in general makes schizos seethe. Always has. That's why chumbuds are the way they are.

>>44215868
Others
>1. Chiyoura Chiyomi (Aogiri High School) - $38,685
>2. Gavis Bettel (Holostars) - $34,271
>3. Pipkin Pippa (Phase Connect) - $31,034
>4. Kurikoma Komaru (Aogiri High School) - $28,559
>5. Matsunaga Iori (Riot Music) - $28,261
>6. Noir Vesper (Holostars) - $17,668
>7. Kurumi Noah (VSPO) - $16,337
>8. Oma Kirara (Noripro) - $14,499
>9. Shiba Kou (Live Duo) - $13,915
>10. Nagino Mashiro (independent) - $12,040
>11. Neko Matsuri (independent) - $11,801
>12. Josuiji Shinri (Holostars) - $11,723
>13. Hizaki Gamma (Holostars) - $11,679
>14. Nekozeno Shin (Noripro) - $11,363
>15. Seki (Meridian Project) - $10,966
>16. Yamaguro Nekuro (Aogiri High School) - $10,480
>17. Inari Iroha (Noripro) - $10,107
>18. Amakami Konomi (independent) - $9,948
>19. Kurumizawa Momo (Noripro) - $9,030
>20. Nenemaru (Sinsogumi) - $8,654
>21. Shirayuki Reid (Neo Porte) - $8,460
>22. Reglush Lionheart (Noripro) - $8,376
>23. Ogiya Milk (Sinsogumi) - $8,228
>24. Banzoin Hakka (Holostars) - $8,195
>25. Shinomiya Runa (VSPO) - $8,127
>26. Regis Altare (Holostars) - $8,042
>27. Nito Wai (independent) - $7,745
>28. Otodama Tamako (Aogiri High School) - $7,589
>29. Aletta Sky (Kawaii) - $7,485
>30. Cygnus (Square Live) - $7,342
>31. Kuga Leo (Neo Porte) - $7,301
>32. Kageyama Shien (Holostars) - $7,191
>33. Komori Met (VSPO) - $7,130
>34. Ichinose Uruha (VSPO) - $7,043
>35. Shirayuki Mishiro (Noripro) - $6,834
>36. Joyu (independent) - $6,814
>37. Oshiro Mashiro (Aogiri High School) - $6,786
>38. Ponpoko (independent) - $6,767
>39. Natori Sana (independent) - $6,651
>40. Suou Patra (774 inc.) - $6,574
>41. Rin Penrose (Idol) - $6,233
>42. Tabasuko (Mirolive) - $6,228
>43. Shirayuri Lily (ViViD) - $6,198
>44. Shibasaki Fuune (The Box) - $6,166
>45. Magni Dezmond (Holostars) - $6,144
>46. Maemi Tenma (Phase Connect) - $5,968
>47. Tachibana Hinano (VSPO) - $5,953
>48. Shitagai Nora (Sinsogumi) - $5,770
>49. Nayuki Vivy (RenewLive) - $5,424
>50. Popona (Sega) - $5,419

>>44215837
Both of them are niSEAnigger

>>44215934
>>44215932
who? a big shot?

>EN TIME IS BAD FOR EN, WE NEED JP PRIME TIME, BRING THE JP VIEWERS
Do /#/ really?

>>44215962
That applies to everyone though

I wonder why Cover doesn't use CCV in their portfolio as a measure of success. Are they stupid?

>>44215704
JP segment at the beginning is great filter for EOP tourists

covers west coast obsession has to end at some point, right?

>>44215844
Huh, so probably due to exchange rate fluctuations

>>44215364
KYS YOU DAMAGE WANNABE CONTROLLING TRANNY! YOU ARE T-CHAN ARENT YOU?! KYS! YAGOO WILL FIRE YOUR UGLY DISTORTED BITCHASS!! WATCH!!!

>>44215927
Nah, there's plenty of genuine malicious seethe.

>>44215923
>weekday cope
I'm not even taking the piss on Gura individually here, the numbers here are just the final nail in the coffin that the EN scene as a whole is a rut. If she got a weekend slot maybe she'd get, what, 75k? Not as dissapointing but not something to celebrate

>>44215844
Mori didnt even get members or gifted? wtf she did worse than i thought

>>44215573
of course a chumbud can't read

Yeah, Gawr Gura didn't do as well as they expected.

I will be paying attention to the VOD views for Gura's 3D Showcase and laugh when they mog all the JP whores.

FOR EXAMPLE.......THE 3D LIVE

The only one that beats Gura is Marine.

>Gura's 3D Live
1.6M views
>Suisei's last 3D Live
1.3M views
>Pekora's 3D Live
1.4M views or 1.3M views, take your pic
>Miko's 3D Live
1.1M views or 982k views or 950k views

Now regarding Suisei she does have one that is at 1.8M views, but that was over a year ago so Gura's 3D Live will eventually pass it. CCV ain't shit.

>>44216066
Kek, we will have HoloEN Connect, cry more

>WE NEED JP VIEWERS TO CARRY EN
>Brings PekoMari
>Stalls and falls

>thread speed cope now
Just stick with thursday

>>44215747
not high enough for some people

>>44216028
No, but she should have had a weekend so those viewers could tune in, like they did for the 3d live.
Are we going to pretend we don't know Gura's viewership demographics and 30% of them are a gaggle of random asians and another 12% are japs?

>>44215364
>not blaming management for their faults
look at this corpo bootlicker
state your gender!

How do we save kyedae bros?

>>44215075
enchannel
30k-50k

>>44216066
Its closer to Japan so probably not. Its sucks tho as west coast fags are shown time and time to have the least loyalty for burgers.

>>44216028
Yea, CCV especially doesn't matter when many are unable to watch it live. Total views are the better metric. Prediction on this VOD view tomorrow?

>>44215220
A good chunk of the 93k from IRyS 2.0 were Japanese, which Gura had no access to because of the time and day of her 3D Live. I do agree with HoloEN desperately needing EN3 to shake things up. The audience is so desperate for new interactions and new content within the branch that they're reducing themselves to watching the homobeggar collabs.

>>44215704
i like gura but this wasn't it chief
i liked her birthday live better

>>44216174
>Are we going to pretend we don't know Gura's viewership demographics
yes?

>>44216142
>preemptively VOD coping

>>44216054
No, anon. This thread is stupid.

>>44216112
Keep posting that the EN scene is dead 100 times a day in this thread for a few years, and maybe some day it'll come true

History anon here. Reminder that the sankisei gamers collab happened on a weekday during jp prime time and got more than double gura's 3d number. And that stream was just 8 girls laughing at each other.

>>44216174
Weekend belongs to Miko's birthday, fuck off.

>>44215844
>not a single EN with 50k
cursed number

>>44215075
Myth collabs and their complete lack of chemistry is a huge debuff. Would not be surprised if it poses to Kiara.

>>44216066
It will end when the non west coast timezones stop fucking up even more

>>44215825
God has collected us all here. If you can't handle it just don't visit.

>>44216028
Sorta. Old numbers are kinda old, but didn't the November 2021 slide thingy say something like 40-45% of her audience is in Asia/JST-ish?

>>44215075
>Chumbies
>watching collabs
>HoloEN channel

today's threads are gonna be fun

>>44216112
Yeah nah the difference between having JP viewers or not would be more like 67k vs 100k
That's how important they are. They are the only ones who consistently show up for 3D live events.

Holy fuck I missed the 3D live AGAIN. The ONLY one I managed to catch live was Mori’s. There is no way other people in JST and places like Australia could catch any of these live

There are a lot of people who don’t check schedules and just look at what’s live, if you’re not streaming during those hours then you lose the casual watchers too

>>44215573
This explains a lot about HoloEN...

>>44216272
Don't put words in my mouth retard. I said "in a rut", not fucking dead. There's a recline, even you can't deny that. The question is if it's gonna stabilize or continue sliding down

This is not looking good for the Connect The World project. What the fuck are they even doing with it? If it's a concert, they might as well cancel it.

I told you niggers:

-these would get bad numbers cause of 3d not being new at all, they all had 3d lives on their channels. Gura had 2!
-Gura's timeslot fucking sucks
-Ina would massively overperform because her 3d was used the least

It genuinely pisses me off that I've aquired the useless skill of predicting how these things go and the only faggots who I can discuss it with shout shit like COPE COPE COPE even when I do it a month ahead of time.

Imagine delaying Nene and possibly Miko's 3D for this.

>>44216258
>Pekora's VOD don't come close to Gura's
>Noutoddlers gaslight the entire thread into thinking VODs don't matter
It all makes sense now

>>44215874
Tell that to Pippa,tranny LMAO

>>44216283
keyword
>jp prime time

>>44216283
What is your point?

I will outlast all of you faggots.

Gura beat Ina, that's all that matters.

I’m going to laugh my ass off when they announce EN3 and it’s a full female gen but they still flop in the end. I wonder what ENbros cope would be then huh

>>44215421
It's not us that doesn't listen, it's (you).

if only the EN scene could have been invigorated last fall with something like... I don't know MAYBE EN3 INSTEAD OF TWO! HOMO GENERATIONS HOLY FUCKING SHIT

>>44216283
Was it at noon when everybody's at work/school though?

>>44216389
It's okay, good try for their first times.

>>44215224
If we acknowledge VOD views we have to admit that Gura is fucking huge and that JPs all have an immense buff due to their ccv benefitting from having all of their audience in a single timezone, whereas ENs will have a lot of people only able to watch their VODs hours later.
Can't have that.

>>44216386
Yeah, it probably won't even sell out. And it definitely won't sell out in under 5 minutes. If any of that happens, I'll cut out my own ovaries.

>>44216233
Grim, it's gonna be a while before this even gets close to 1mil.

Councilrys 3d showcase will mog every myth's except for bae's. People are just fucking tired of EN1.

>>44216390
A cope is a cope even if you cope a month before this shameful stream.

The anons that said "Instead of waiting, Cover should've rented a studio in the US" were on to something.

ID2 and Council 3D showcases should be done ASAP.

>>44216386
true, you take a loss on selling out concerts

>>44216287
I don't understand. Not like Miko was gonna stream at this hour, so no overlap. Or that Cover ever cared about this before (Gura's 3d live was on the same day as Lui's 3d debut).

>>44216447
Blame OmegaAltroon.

>/hlg/ and /ggg/ trying to convince themselves that Gura's showcase was good enough to makeup for her lack of regular streams

>>44216441
Tempiss already destoryed holoEN, it's too late

>>44216478
The most sensible and accurate post in this thread

>>44216543
>/hlg/
x to doubt

>>44216054
In case you are not shitposting, subs is a 'lazy' metric since it is relatively unchanging, you don't need to constantly track ccv of each stream when someone asks how successful your streamers are. The same reason subs is used explicitly compared to money made (aka the most important metric for any business) from sc/merch/membership, since it is easier to convey to the public.

>>44216142
>VOD coping already
Every fucking time

>>44216334
It'll be like this at least until after the EN1 Group 3D.

>>44216112
The reduced numbers show that EN management fumbled the ball hard by not releasing EN3 when it was time to last year. Their homo pet project probably cost HoloEN 25-35% of their audience.

>>44215940
>The more relevant someone to /vt/, to more they filter casual

>>44216543
Since when did hlg care about gura?

>>44215397
>3 Kiara debuffs
GRIM

How much do you guys think Pikamee will get in her Graduation Stream?

>>44216610
every fucking time man

>>44215055
Song choice buff/debuff is real...

>>44216509
I was gonna call you a fucking retard, but that would be redundant, since your retardation is evident to everybody.

>>44216543
Nah, most people are disappointed

>>44216029
No, uh, Japanese viewers are 1,000 times folded and have perfect retention. EN ones only watch for 3 minutes and leave. It's a cultural difference.

>>44216028
they're coping with the fact that EN lose their relevancy

>>44216610
>Gura gets more VOD views than some of the most popular JP members
>VODs ARE COPE!!! THEY DON'T COUNT!!!
You last samurai are pathetic

>>44216386
EN may be reclining but remember that even in this diminished state they're still one of the biggest female streaming groups in the English speakng world. They'll sell out a concert and fast too

Merch numbers prediction for reveal day on drama buff stream?
(You) will buy Pippa's merch. Right?

>>44216283
Oh? Sankisei streamed at noon in a workday?
>>44216509
>Predict numbers
>explain why they'll be a certain way
>COOOOOOOOOPE
How the ffffuck is it a cope to predict something? If I told you a building is prone to collapse during an earthquake and that happened, you'd tell me I was coping about the building's quality? The fuck?

>>44216413
More like you refuse to accept the shark lost the ccv race and is trying to clutch a win out of VOD
Reminder Gura have 2x the sub, as far as VOD view goes, she actually is having an advantage over everyone. But well, a win is a win, congratulations chumbud

>>44216320
>November 2021 data
lole

>>44216241
Gura audience demographics about a year ago
There's a reason why "vod cope" exists

>>44215704
Does Cover really have no one that can do in house animations? How the hell does kanauru even wind up in the official showcase?

>>44215075
>>44215397
Kiara said the collab is gonna be her idea so expect some GRIM

>>44216610
>VOD coping already
Because it's what actually counts?

Why did she have pekomari, other than numbers? I know she likes marine, but why not aqua, shion, or okayu? Pekora didn’t bother with moona but she could for Gura?

>>44216720
>Gura's 3D Live got more views than Pekora's 3D Live
Yes, you are right, that is a win. More people watched Gura.

>>44216712
>You should've built the building with earthquake protections, cope!

>>44216239
I dunno, the ads and infomercials were nice.

>>44216703
Ma'am, this is the number thread. We don't care about who is second or third. If you aren't first, you're irrelevant, disposable, garbage.

>>44216426
>>44216456
Fucking 'EN' branch can't perform well during EN prime time, NijiCN level cope.

>>44216706
Who?

>>44216610
We love numbers in this thread. But not those numbers, only the numbers that make the shark look bad! That's the most important thing!

Can anyone have a list for JP 3d showcase numbers? And does anyone did a showcase during weekday?

>>44216441
EN3 could literally all be kiara/bae tier and mog the rest of the western scene.

>>44216543
ahhh so you're the shitposter in /ggg/
the 3D live was good.
cope fag
numbers prove how good something was and according to the peak CCV it was a good 3D.
not better than her first, but good nonetheless

>>44216725
I mean I get it, but we've got fuckall for numbers past that point, so old-ass numbers are better than blind guessing.

By the way something I been wanting to ask. Why is more viewer = less SC a consistent trend in Vtubing world? Like bro, we can literally see it with VOD

>>44216283
When was this, was it during covid?

>>44216054
No, it is you and /#/ who are stupid.

CCV, say it with me, is literally just "how many people were available to watch you at one time". It doesn't , and never has, reflected your full popularity. It depends on a million factors but most importantly: if you are streaming from a decent sized country (japan) for a targeted audience in a language and timeslot (again, japan), you will mog 99% of streamers. All of not, not just EN vtubers, in CCV.

>>44216730
A lot has changed in a year. NTA and having this is better than nothing but there's still good reason to question if this is still accurate

Peak CCV is overvalued for not-only-streamers.
But still, lazy is lazy.

>>44216610
>using the most fair metric (vod views after 24 hours) is coping
>using ccv which is skewed for JPs isn't
ogey nutsacki

I have no idea what Ame is going to do in her 3D Showcase.
Did she said anything about it? A hint on guests or something?

>>44216829
See >>44216730
Only 26% of Gura's audience is from US.

>>44216860
JP never has "showcase"

>>44216829
>pst is EN prime time
RORU
RUMAO

>>44216754
all the phony 3d stuff that no one seems to complain about outside of here(dunno why vtuber fans are so two faced) is the most annoying thing about holoEN

>>44216874
>numbers prove how good something was
lol

>>44216895
January 2023.

>>44216112
>75k
Maybe 75k just from the JOP chumbies who couldn't watch. The JOP tourists (aka people who don't watch Gura but a 3d live is a 3d live) would be 10-20k on their own. I say 10-20k because let's face it, there were JOP tourists in this live anyway, it wasn't some pure cowboy bbq steak shit.

>>44216890
because they get more merch to buy. Also smaller fanbase lets groomers run rampant for attention.

>>44215051
this board isn't the EN vtuber sphere if you didn't know. She is reclining. No amount of coping chumkeks will change that.

are you all women

>>44216610
I like how all the replies is blaming nousagi on reflex. He didn’t even attach a Pekora image

>>44216859
Kek, they can't even mog Valkyrae or Pokimane

>>44216898
Case in point: Spanish streamers get a massive following because all the young bastards have no money for anything, but have cheap internet and a lot of time on their hands. The result is that Spanish livestrem numbers demolish everyone else in the world.

>>44216799
Gura was in Pekora's 3D Birthday.
Seems talents are obligated to participate in each other's Lives. Same as with Marine.

>>44216515
This was glaringly obvious since 2021. They should have struck when the iron was hot and had an actual 3D debut between Fall 2021 and Spring 2022. No one knows why this was not the case, they definitely could have afforded it judging by the amount of money they sunk into Hololive Alternative and Holo Earth. Either they were too cheap to and wanted to make the talents pay for it or they refused because it because it could be construed as favoritism somehow (despite the extraordinary circumstances of the coof). Either way, it was severe enough that Ame spent a lot of her own money and effort making her home studio and we got the Kanauru shit as a result. Hopefully future gens never have to go through this bullshit again.

>>44216712
Sankisei streamed for their audience' timeslot. Gura streamed for her audience' timeslot too, no?

>>44215269
why is there a telephone in a locker?

>>44216906
>A lot has changed in a year
proof?

>>44217020
Woman (mentally ill brown people) general thread

>>44216730 (me)
Original if you don't trust google MTL

July, 18th 2022
never forget, the day en management killed en

>>44216478
I challenge any retard on this thread to pull out a counter-argument for this post. It makes a lot of sense.

I’m calling it now because these 3d showcases have proven to me that EN is a dying branch. EN3 will underperform in all categories and will probably hit Tempus tier. There will be one member from EN3 that will do better than the rest but she will probably only reach Kiara tier.

>>44217022
you know chumbud is full on damage control now

>>44215051
shitting on gura and chumtourists is just too much fun

so what does /#/ think of the Neal era so far?

>>44216890
More casual viewers?

Cover has to beg for money to build a studio in Japan. How do you think they can even build on in NA?

>>44217073
>one knows why this was not the case
COVID was the reason you absolute retard.

>>44217054
It's also how the Korean vtubers mog the fuck out of EN ones on twitch. Is Vtubing bigger in Korea than EN? No.
Are those girls giga popular on the levle of Hololive? Also no.
Is their CCV big? Yes. Cause again, dedicated audience and dedicated timeslot the entirety of that audience can watch in.

>>44217148
EN killed HoloEN, these bitches don't stream!

>>44216860
>6/9 Iroha 125,627 (Thursday)
>6/13 Chloe 137,795 (Monday)
>6/16 Koyori 104,909 (Thursday)
>6/21 Lui 100,751 (Tuesday)
>6/27 Laplus 152,676 (Monday)
Next cope please

>>44216799
From what we been told, it most likely Marine idea or something. And since Marine have the same manager with Pekora so she naturally would drag Pekora with her. But Pekora would most likely joined in if asked anyway

>>44217022
No one is against VOD views after 24 hours other than Nousagi because it makes her lose to Gura

>>44215561
>Mori leading the pack
How has it come down to this?

>>44217139
I'm mildly annoyed how the only copy of that I could find earlier was a .webp on Reddit. Reverse search just gives me generic pie charts.

>>44216615
Well yeah, all the old predictions made back when Myth debuted are starting to come true. EN vtubing is being pretty badly mismanaged and becoming targeted more and more by western political activists.

>>44216829
>pst
>EN prime
retard alert

>>44216660
>no comeback
Keep coping.

>gura yearly peak ccv streams
>2020
>119,493 Gawr Gura 2nd karaoke stream 2020-11-13 (thursday NA, friday Japan)
>2021
>194,140 Gawr Gura 1st costume reveal 2021-05-07 (thursday NA, friday Japan)
>2022
>92,207 Gawr Gura Shark 3D live 2022-09-18 (saturday NA, sunday Japan)
>2023
>67,405 Gawr Gura 3D showcase 2023-03-03 (thursday NA, friday Japan)

>3 weekdays, 1 weekend

#AMEWAY LA CREATIVIDAD , LAST DEBUT BUFF, 60K MAXIMUM PREDICTION

>>44217256
>covid booked all mocap studios in NA, Europe and Asia
do you know how retarded you sound?

>>44217076
Oh I'm sorry, I thought you were making a point about how Sankisei streamed during the workday and so did Gura as if that mattered.
You're just saying Sankisei got more CCV than Gura. Which yes, in general, tends to happen when 2 of them have 2x Gura's ccv.

ID2 3D will mog Council 3D, won't it?

>>44217022
It’s always them, just throw some bait and they come crawling. In a way they are like jp cup buds lol

>>44217324
A lot of big collabs on her channel + 3D + outfit reveal.

>>44215502
if VODs are your concern, you are either an advertiser or cover corp. ccv is for the sophisticated sideliner

>>44216799
Considering the members were Gura, Ina and Marine, I feel like it should have been Umisea originally, with Pekora taking Aqua's spot because she couldn't join for whatever reason.

>>44217300
How do you know lol

>>44216135
Anon, you clearly can't read either. They added that because they want content creators that aren't just stream drones. They're probably looking for people that have actual marketable skills and they keep getting "ear licking ASMR" streamers that are a-dime-a-dozen whores that can't even play games.

>>44215051
Everyone love gura, it simple.

>>44217364
Only Kobo

>>44217352
EN vtubing really did peak in 2021
what am I still doing here

>>44217352
>194,140 Gawr Gura 1st costume reveal 2021-05-07 (thursday NA, friday Japan)
gura should always do events during golden week

>>44217352
>yearly
>it's only the beginning of March

>>44215285
>Chatter overlapping
Her chat always go fast no matter how much ccv she get though
People dont type in chat is not equal to not watching so chatter overlap means nothing

Are nousagis here mad 'cause the reclining shark dragged their oshi to a disappointing sub 70k 3D stream?

>>44217429
Just switch to JP bro.

>>44217352
and what were the times each of those streams started?

>>44216543
She decided to focus on HoloFest instead of her 3D showcase which is the right choice.

>>44217352
Anon the outfit was during Golden Week.

>>44217469
Lol
Lmao

>>44216949
They certainly did 3d debut/showcase
>>44217270
So any other JP other than holox? Not coping just curious.

>>44217448
More like their oshi contributed to its disappointing numbers.

>>44217469
I'm not learning japanese just for entertainment

>>44217073
After all that we still got Kanauru in Gura's showcase.

>>44217352
One of these was not like the others

>>44217426
>ID2
>Kobo
Based blind and retarded anon

i belieb ame will beat mori

>EN reclining
>JP thriving
Feels good

Dunno about you guys but this part was pretty funny

>>44217469
>learning a dead language
How about no

>>44217355
1. Cover does not want to rent a 3rd party studio.
2. They did not have the capital to build one themselves.
3. Why the fuck would they do that just for 5 3D showcases anyway? No matter how successful Myth was, that is just not a smart investment.

>>44217599
I belieb she won't

>>44217622
man marines coat really ruined all the ass shots

>>44217622
>The "chumbud" is actually Vesper

>>44217352
Goddamn. So who's lined up to be gura's successor in the EN sphere?

>>44217602
>thriving

>>44217622
no fun allowed.
seize posting immediately.

Ameway sound like a cursed term given how much this thread like to parrot it

Interesting

>>44217579
I have dyspepsia.

I have a feeling Ame is going to overperform expectations just a bit for a few reasons.
1. Creatividad reputation
2. Final showcase
3. Better day of the week
I'm gonna say 50-55k

>>44217122

https://twitter.com/axelsyrios/status/1631493603074920448
https://twitter.com/axelsyrios/status/1631493603074920448
https://twitter.com/axelsyrios/status/1631493603074920448

Speaking of EN

>>44217751
>pinoy
kek

>>44217333
Are you just going to keep deflecting when the elephant in the room is that these girls never fucking stream. And when there’s a hyped event like this, they fumble it. Same thing happened with Myth’s off collab, massive hype followed by everyone realising they have no synergy with each other and some of them need to be forced to streaming.

>>44217364
lol, no. ID2 was more like myth-lite, myth recline and so does that entire gen. they will get even worse numbers than myth, let alone council

>>44217469
I wish I was saying this in peak japanese hours: learning japanese to enjoy the many japanese forms of media is fine.

Learning it *specifically* to understand Pekora saying the same 10 canned phrases for 4 fucking years is peak retarded. I can top to bottom understand every nuance of what Pekora says during a stream and my jap level is N-0thing

so how did cover never get another sexy blonde after choco

>>44217751
No Indonesia?

>>44217661
1. Cover is retarded.
2. They did and do.
3. Because it is retarded to try and run a tech company from Japan with limited access to technology, talent and a captive audience.

>>44217505
thats a japan holiday not a NA/sea one. This chart >>44217139 was 2021 so only 13%-20% nip tourists she can get

>>44217715
JP gets cool sponsorships meanwhile EN only gets sponsorships for shitty Korean gacha games. That’s all I need to know about the status of EN.

>>44217713
>Vesper
Lmao the only chad in Tempus is Axel

>>44217778
10k possible for his POV in the finals or whatever? I don't really know too much about vsaikyou

>>44217448
Yes, this is a disgrace

>>44217622
>Is that a HoloJP?
>YABBA DABBA DOOO

>>44217778
As a captain or talent?

>>44217751
>No Indonesia
weird

>>44217792
That's why EN3 was needed to cover for Myth getting burnt out.

>>44217622
They hate it because it was the Most HOLOLIVE out of all of them. She even included CouncilRyS, something the other 3 didnt do.

>>44217716

>>44217448
That's too much sister, Gura's number is grim enough, no need to start another holo vs holo to shit up the thread.

>>44216028
Only idiots would want them to move out of their primary market timeslot. People just need to be more realistic in that Thursday is garbage and nobody is locked at home due to covid anymore. 2020 numbers are gone and especially after the cull changes.

>>44217778
>yagoo backing his failures like clockwork

ok, but who is the flattest member of hololive?

>>44217839
I'm thinking you're the retard here, my man.

>>44217806

>>44217910
>. She even included CouncilRyS
No? Just because Kanauru is a meme ridden faggot who references everything and its mother n his videos doesn't mean she purposely included them

>>44217894
He mention team, so ... Captain? Tho Idk how skill is the guy, last time he was carried by RPR

>>44217751
>No Taiwan

>>44217843
Retard. Literally none of HoloEN's giga streams have ever been without massive JOP tourists. And a general 13-20% Nip audience doesn't mean that was the spread for that stream AAAGH WHY ARE YOU PEOPLE SO STUPID I'D FIRE YOU OUT OF ANY ANALYSIS JOB

Somehow Pippa reading out Harry Potter fan erotica incest stories is more entertaining than Gura 3D

>>44217448
She actually dragged the numbers down and they are deflecting like the hogwarts trannies lol

>>44217806
Blonde doesn't seem like such a big buff. If you could pick, you'd be better off as a blue woman with white hair than a blonde

>>44217916
Too edgy. She's going to end up yabbing hard.

>>44217974
This. Also gura hates IRyS so I doubt they would include her.

>>44217916
Would pippa do well if she got picked up by HoloEN?

>>44217300
Surely you have proof, right?

>>44217961
that's a man

>>44217974
>Gura didn't approve the things that appeared in her 3D showcase
Smartest poster in this thread.

Alright guys, I'm out. Keep on shitting the thread for me, ok?

>>44217894
Invitations are for team captain only
Odd he will bring Ollie and Rpr with him

>>44217827
It afternoon.

>>44217948
Ina probably. She literally has 0

>>44217910
Gura literally despises IRyS and IRyS doesn't like Gura so this is incorrect.

I can't believe people here think they know more than industry professionals

>>44217778
Good chance for him to incline if he doesn't blow it.

>>44217778
https://twitter.com/tokoyamitowa/status/1631499944077975554?t=6R3WCOTyRUiD5cw4FjdXag&s=19

>>44217958
>no argument
They booked third party studios during that time period btw.

>>44217806
My wife is plenty sexy, thanks.

>>44217751
>Chumbuds are flips
>Nousagis are flips
>35ps are flips
Why are they constantly fighting each other again?

>>44217468
2020 karaoke (6pm or 7pm ET)
2021 costume reveal (9am JST)
2022 3d showcase (1pm JST)

>>44218100
this thread is full of karens, why are you surprised ?

>>44218127
How would he hope to incline being in the same tournament as KING? The King will hog all the spotlight as usual

What is the point of keeping HoloEN again?

>>44217622
Could be better

You guys realize that with all the "we need Japanese, VOD numbers will save Goomba, just wait 24 hours" you just admitted that EN market indeed reclined as fuck and you need JP for big noombers.

>>44217020
I wonder if there are women out there that hate holos for being rich and famous for no real reason.

Thank god this thread exists so the rest of the gens can be at peace. Godspeed number trannies you really take one for the rest of the board

>>44218201
to shit on nijien

>>44217622
It was a fun 3D Live. The skits were perfectly on brand for Gura and I enjoyed seeing every single one. The only real complaint is that the pose off and the math segment ran a little too long. Could have probably shortened them a little bit and maybe added a song performance with another Hololive member.

>>44218136
She really is moving towards being a whore for a few of the EN boys huh

>>44218161
Why did you use EST for one stream and then JST for the other two?

>>44218012
cry more cumkek your oshi is reclining holoEN is dying

>>44218201
Well, your seething is important to the board.

>>44217751
Gura is a flip confirmed lol

>>44218233
Ywnbj

>>44217806
Flare is the sexiest holo, and dwarves are gay. even their women are bearded

>>44218201
To keep the ENsharts contained

>>44218213
Do you think this is an own? Half of the discussion in here each day is about the EN market reclining...

thank god for gura or else pol would run this site

>>44217716
Literally no one.

>>44218201
Fauna and Mumei

>>44218213
>just admitted
at what point will you stop pretending like this is all some kind of big gotcha, like we haven't all been seeing the charts for the past year

>>44218231
The “No Holostars” rule had been broken by Ollie, so everything is fair game now
Don’t think she got invitations as captain this year? So yeah, if she want to be in Vsaikyou Axel is her only choice