/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>4399090
Autistically screech at how female holos MUST collab with them and how every one opposed to that for any reason is an incel. Make that thread at least once every 3 days.

>>4399090
gender bender

StarsEN, unironically. Hurry up before the Nijis grab their potential audience

Each of them individually has things they could work on (Astel with making connections, Oga making less niche content, Roberu fucking streaming more like he promised) but as a group they could really benefit from Cover actually promoting them with big events like 3Ds, concerts and more original highly promoted music, and less small niche shit like meet and greets
They could also take the Nijisanji route and hook them up with collaborations with high profile people in general, like that Yuuki Ono friendship Roberu has going on is great

>>4399236
They'd rather invest in more HololiveEN generations before they'd make HolostarsEN. I'd unironically audition though if they did.

Give Temma a sex-hotline. The cougars will eat it up.

>>4399658
I don't think he'd be very good at it. All I can imagine is the episode of Rocko's Modern Life where he works at a phone sex company and says "oh baby oh baby" in a monotone voice.

>>4399090
Honestly I don’t know what to tell you, I watch them as much as the girls which is almost nothing due to language barrier, if one stars spoke fluent English or Spanish I would watch him normally but as for know they don’t have the cute/sexy factors girls have so they have to be funny but on Japanese market that doesn’t sell very good, the best way to be a famous (not rich) male streamer is to be funny and speak either English or Spanish (to a smaller scale), vtuber in specific is a female dominated field because the audience are horny anime consumer guys who are more than horny anime consumer girls, just like wrestling is a male dominated career because male wrestlers attract more viewers, they are doomed but HoloStarsEN if there is ever one MAY have a chance

>>4399159
THIS, but make it definitive

>>4399136
I barely see cross collabs with HololiveJP and Holostars. Most of the time it's either HololiveEN or ID collabing with them. Only ones from JP I see consistently collabing with Holostars is Fubuki and Matsuri.

>>4399090
Ironically just naming them Hololive ''Insert title here'' is enough to bring more people to watch them, the worst mistake they could have done is calling them ''Holostars'', it's like they were from another company copying Hololive baka
With Hololive X name the algorithm will work alone with this recomending them
Maybe they will not reach EN's level obviously, but at least they will reach ID numbers

>>4399964
True, they could have been named Hololive STARS Gen-X and would attract more people

>>4399090
Nothing, I predict that they'll incline this year and the next. I'd say to keep watching them but I doubt you made this thread if you're a homo watcher

>>4400042
No problem with them succeeding on their own merit, but if they can't succeed without leeching off the female branch, they don't deserve to.

Pay for their HRT and transition surgeries.
>>4399136
Case in point.

>>4399090
watch them

Astel has 1k viewers that's like a top nijisanji

>>4399090
They're doing fine. Not compared to Hololive but that's more Hololive being an outlier. Any chuuba group where the majority of their members are over 100k is doing well if you don't have warped numbers in your head.

>>4400168
I agree that they don't deserve to succeed

>>4399236
They need a Gen 0 StarsEN to be a proof of concept.

>>4400382
Like coco?

>>4400168
Hololive was leeching off Nijisanji , they would never be as big as now if they never collabed with them , just so you know

>>4399090
>Holostars ENGLISH
And
>NO "male idol" bullshit.
Trying to appeal to women with VTubers is fucking pointless, even those few girls who actually watch Holostars, aren't really the type to consistently watch their streams as a male viewer would.
I have read a lot of people who mention that they don't wanna watch some "soft popstar e-boy" and instead would much more rather watch someone that they can see as a badass big brother or even someone that has more of an "old out-of-style dad" vibe to him.
Also, hire me, I'm a good entertainer, I'm good at vidya and at throwing dad jokes.

>>4400243
Literally 80% of his viewers are kaigainiki, he can't understand them and they can't understand him, he's like the male Uto, he needs a domestic audience

>>4400168
Even some holos are having better numbers bi being there, there is nothing wrong to use the name, if you have been enough on YT you must know how algorithm sometimes can bless you or drag you to the void and there is nothing you can do even being a great entertainer

>>4400482
>literal subversive westerner begging to join a japanese company
sasuguh, just apply to nijisanji if the idol shtick bothers you so much, they're not dropping it and by doing so they'd lose the fanbase they already have

I said this in a similar thread some time ago and I'll say it again. They need a Fubuki, not Fubuki literally but someone like her but male version. Someone who takes the brand on his back and puts them on the map. Someone in that thread said to me that Kaoru was something like that but he's not here anymore so idk, maybe have luck with the algorithm. Having different hurts them also. In any case, if HoloStars was a failure they wouldn't be here anymore. Yes, they haven't released a new gen in some time but I think they are waiting for the market to notice them

>>4400834
*Having different name hurts...

>>4400578
>completely ignoring the fact that the Hololive girls aren't really idol-like for the real idol standards
>and yet this is exactly why a lot of people love Hololive
Holostars can benefit so much more from dropping the stupid idol act and letting their boys loosen up a bit, and believing that by doing this they would lose their current fanbase and die instead of gaining many more fans, is just straight-up retarded. Use your brain, anon

They need (quality) 3D debuts ASAP.

>>4400482
>even those few girls who actually watch Holostars, aren't really the type to consistently watch their streams as a male viewer would.
Each homo has a solid core of nips viewers who have been here for more than a year. I can't say if they're women or men, but they are extremely loyal. I got the opportunity to meet a few homo fans on an event, and there were quite a few of Japanese women there. They're just really discreet
>>4400896
Do you watch the boys?

>>4400834
They actually "had" the male version of FBK , i'd say he was way above FBK's lead , no not Kaoru , but Suzaku the other member who graduated before him . Cover at that time didnt fucking do shit for them so i dont blame him for leaving

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL0UuyyZPLM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzHV_km8soA

Like just look at him go , i dare say you'll never stumble upon someone like him now . I'll never forgive Cover's incompetence , fuckers never do something until its too late

>>4400243
do holobronies really?

>>4400896
>>completely ignoring the fact that the Hololive girls aren't really idol-like for the real idol standards
You don't even know what idols are. Explaining this over and over again is exhausting so just do your archive reps for more details, but there are many idols who don't fit neatly into the archetypical "seiso" mold, particularly underground idols. In either case, the idol motif is what differentiates Holostars from Nijisanji to begin with. Have whatever headcanons you want about how this limits their success but they are not going to change it, and they aren't going to hire anybody who wants to change the group's core values. You also need to consider the fact that it's because Holostars is an idol group themselves that many Hololive fans feel secure allowing them to collab to begin with. Should the regulations be loosened and the Stars allowed to talk about their sex lives on stream or anything else "yab" I'm sure many Hololive fans would be up in arms. There is many reasons why "dude just stop being idols lmao" is a very bad idea at this point.

>>4400168
one of the reasons they don't collab is because they don't want to be seen as leeching, doing what the homobeggars want would be against the wishes of both parties

>>4401068
above FBK's league*


How to English ?

>>4399090
The blue hair one probably has STDs (hes bisexual), hes also trying to fuck Ollie, which means Ollie will have STDs, Connor is trying to fuck Ollie which means Connor will have STDs, Mori hangs out with Connor and is gonna end uo fucking him which means Mori will have STDs, Mori will fuck the Manlet which means the manlet will have STDs, the Manlet will fuck all the rap groupies which means the underground rap scene of tokyo will have STDs. I don't like rap so i don't care.

>>4401084
what does the parenthesis number mean?

>>4400834
They won't say it but I'm personally sure that the lads are scared that potential new members want to join just for a chance to get close to their Hololive oshi.

>>4400976
>Each homo has a solid core of nips viewers who have been here for more than a year
I know they do, but I rele beleb that they could reach a bigger fanbase without really risking losing their current fans by, again, letting them break free a bit more. Whether is with the things they can or cannot say or the type of activities they are allowed to engage with. Not exactly referring to "let them collab with the Holo girls!" because yeah, we all know that's a fucking horrible idea.
>Do you watch the boys?
Mostly Aruran and The Boss Baby and I know that not all of 'em technically fit into the "seiso idol" tag. But what I'm trying to say is that they could let them chill a bit more the way I mentioned earlier

All they need are connections, dedicated clippers and get their own gimmick. Holostars isn't trying hard enough. If the recipe of success was streaming long hours and have a good singing voice, everyone would've been successful. Take Astel for example, I enjoy watching his streams but he really needs to research other JP or foreign streams to add into his endurance streams. Not adding anything new to streams is like multiplying a number to 0, they'll end up worthless. Get a few streaming tricks would at least turn that 0 to 0.01 or 0.02, they'll see an improvement.

>>4400834
Ideally, Roberu would be that person, and he did get a 3D model. His subcount however is not impressive even if he's ahead of the pack, plus he doesn't stream that often or for very long, so yeah, those personal debuffs really hurt.

>>4400834
Hire me Cover, I'll be the savior of holostars.

>>4401538
>but I rele beleb that they could reach a bigger fanbase without really risking losing their current fans by, again, letting them break free a bit more
Define "break free". If you mean discussing past flings, being generally vulgar, rude and getting into drama, yes that will definitely diminish their audience. Believe it or not Stars like Miyabi, Oga and Astel absolutely do have a large female fanbase (no males are watching Oga's ASMR streams) that appreciates them being held to a certain standard and by having these standards drop their interest in them would as well.

>>4401089
>There is many reasons why "dude just stop being idols lmao" is a very bad idea at this point.
At this point not a lot of people care about Holostars, but lacking this much popularity is also an excellent opportunity to experiment a bit.
If you don't want the main branch to drop the act, that's perfectly fine. As another anon here said, they already have their fair amount of fans, so they can allow themselves to play it safe, but then at least Cover could give it a shot with a Holostars English branch and let them do their best on their own way. It can't possibly be that bad

>>4401378
number of streams in the month.

>>4401068
Huh, I can see the potential "Fubuki effect" with the short video. A shame he graduated

>>4401068
>That second clip
Man, only 3 minutes in and I already like him.
I think it was only like a month after he graduated when I joined the whole VTuber train so I missed all of his content. Shame

>>4401938
>Holostars English
Holostars are barely recognizable in the west as compared to their sister group so there's no point in that yet. In addition, most of the boys' viewers are EOPs and introducing an English branch would only cannibalize their views.
Both Rikka and Shien have also talked about the matter of additional branches and have said they would rather that the audience see how hard the current 9 of them are trying their best to grow right now rather than ask for a new gen/branch "as if (we) were gacha characters to collect".
If anything, the proper way they could grow faster would be for Cover to actually step up their game in promoting the boys and actually trying to build up an even bigger domestic audience (which the boys are actually lacking in) before they do anything else.

>>4401068
Suzaku is an extrovert who has a great amount of connections, perhaps even more than Roberu and Rikka combined. It's a shame he didn't believe in Holostars enough to use them for his job, though I don't blame him
>>4401916
Although it's not flings, Astel and Oga have talked several times about their love experiences. All of them besides Izuru have collabed with the girls before and there isn't a really pure member so they don't receive the same expectations as the girls do from fans

They simply need to play more Apex.

>>4402366
>If anything, the proper way they could grow faster would be for Cover to actually step up their game in promoting the boys
I can only sit here and watch them, hoping for the best.
Hopefully Cover won't pull off a "Valve" situation

>>4399955
The girls aren't comfortable with guys and guys have a rule amongst themselves (for pride) that unless they initiate the collab they won't ask for collabs

>>4402772
Valve has done so many stuff that I'm not sure what you're talking about exactly

>>4402772
They have their own events and even have subtitled shows on their main channels but they are just sorely lacking in the promotion department.

>>4402884
I think he refers to leaving Half Life in the backburner for a decade

>>4402884
>>4402967
Basically I'm referring to them completely neglecting games like Team Fortress 2 despite having a fair amount of fans that throw money and other insane amount of support at the game and just focusing on fucking... Dota or CSGO

>>4402588
How more is the more that you speak of ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3eZL0VSl6A&t=4s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ak8j8GJU71M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_Er7Fgn78g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fb3qmuBoq0&t=6s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaZwiscw2tI

https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/ls4afo/why_i_love_astel/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2lZq5lGa2c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PYjNbAxMNs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGX5nSyXfpU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5Gawh0wtuw&t=25s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWDzcOdq0XE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emEk0eHB4RI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOJCve7uuMM&t=16s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOPUHR22y-U


i'd say they only need more clippers , the YT algorithm to be in their favors and for fucks sake "Cover promoting them for once" . They should something like HoloGraffiti for them , add them on their website frontpage and do more stuff for them instead of leaving them in the shadows each and every damn time

>>4399658
T. Horny auntie

>>4402588
Don't make me cut your foreskin

>>4402851
It doesn't help that a lot of JP girls are introverts and went to all girl schools so they have no social experience with boys. It kind of reminds me of Shomin Sample.

Make them sleep with Kanae

>>4403012
In this case, yes they are and they'll probably keep doing a Valve. All of their effort is on the girls, and I don't see that changing in this year or the next. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the boys don't have 3D by the end of the year

>>4399090
Unironically just boils down to promotions
Can't sell your product if the market doesn't know it exists, after all
Had Cover actually promoted them properly, most of them could've been competing with the 150k-200k subbed Niji males by now

>>4402912
Watchastars is awful for attracting new people. Whos gonna watch 30+ minutes of talking other than existing fans of the boys? They could really use something like hologra.

>>4403117
What about the other "extroverted" girls that collabed with boys repeatedly in the past , collabed with some male seiyuus , Tv Male hosts etc.... ?

The irony is that some Holo girls interacted with Holostars boys back in the NND days , and not too long ago but they dont want to collab with them or even acknowledge that they exist , which is damn sad

>>4403048
>clips
>only subbed shit
Gee, I wonder why they don`t grow. EOPs are not going to fucking watch male chubas, and even worse, Apex. Holostars needs to get the attention of some popular japanese cutout channel, not hololive's shitsubbers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHjEykn0G-8

>>4403612
Hololive got popular purely off of hololive shitsubbers

>>4403670
Hololive are cute girls that appeal to your average otaku and ironic weeb. Why do you think Holostars fans were all mocked on /hlg/ for being homos?

>>4403145
They need to get 100k subs first. In theory they should be in the making

>>4403817
Yeah I kind of understand your post now. But having things happen that gets attention of those channels are pretty rare when they could be focusing on bigger channels.

>>4399090
make them gay

>>4403612
>hololive's shitsubbers
These clips are made by Holostars subbers. Hololive clippers monetize their clips, so they're pumping out videos everyday since them bring them money. Hololive Moments apparently got close to earning a million dollars purely from doing that. There are almost no Holostars channel that monetizes their clips on the other hand, so they're just doing it whenever they have free time

>>4402305
i heard Suzaku graduated because he couldnt keep streaming , his pc stopped working and Cover didnt help him at all when he was in a pinch.........

pain , imagine how many great stuff wouldve happened if he stayed

Why Cover.......just why

Yagoo try his best to promote this brand. They even use the pity collab with EN and ID. But it seem like Cover really dont understand the grow of Hololive. The thing they do actually not bring good results. Collab with ID and EN bring overseas fans but keep out JP fans. The language barrier still exist.

>>4403939
Who cares, hololive/holostars, they're still shitsubber, the point is that anon was talking about how holostars needed more clippers, I'm saying that subbed shit is not going to help them.

Send them to nijisanji.

>>4399090
endless hours of dark souls invasions, the spelunky daily and then trivia followed by 3 minutes of ads

>>4404058
Source?

bring back the beyblade man

>>4404116
The thing I said about clippers applies to the JP ones too
>>4404154
It's a rrat, here's a what a guy who watched the boys since almost the beginning had to say

>>4401374
Underrated post. Made me laugh. Take a well-deserved (You).

>>4404284
Does Holostars even have japanese clips? The impression I get from Holostar's slow as fuck growth, is that they have almost no japanese audience.

>>4399090
They don't need saving, they do pretty well all said.

>>4399090
Make all of them join Nijisanji.

>>4404422
They have clips but they never take off unless it's also about another vtuber. The popular ones are either in English or Chinese (Izuru can talk a bit of CN and was well liked there)

>>4400243
The top in Nijisanji is over 10k anon. 1k would be the second lowest of Nijisanji.

I interrupt this thread to inform you Astel has reached Diamond II in his master solo challenge

>>4404645
Apex fucking sucks but I'm happy for the boy

>>4404422
That's what I was thinking too but also there is a world of japanese clips that we simply don't know. HoloEN have tons of clips and we don't see them because we speak in English and the titles are in japanese. Maybe it's the same for Holostars clips, they are only in japanese and we don't search them because we can't and YouTube doesn't recommend them to us because we don't understand kanji and hiragana.

>>4403841
Boy's 3D is 50k not like the Girls' 100k

>>4404645
that last fight bros.. amazing clutch

>>4403310
Porca...

>>4404708
Then it should be in the making, even more

>>4404154
>>4404284

>>4404645
is 202 max points? I swear I might've gotten like 221 once but i might just be misremembering

>>4404877
202 is max in diamond cause of the entry cost. Getting higher is from lower ranks.

>>4404858
Yes, I already saw it. He was responding to me

>>4399955
>>4403310
It's literally just because they paint themselves as "idols" which means no boys allowed. They're more concerned with retaining their fans and not angering them. I imagine most of their managers push for them to avoid males as well. In Hal's last Apex vtuber tournament, was it? He was apparently even informed not to pair up the Hologirls with any males for the after-party.

>>4399964
they were originally not only seperated from any interactions with Hololive by policy (including members like Fubuki who wanted to help) but were created as a seperate group within Cover and only later rolled into Hololive Productions when that was created

>>4405012
Didn't Towa have to have her manager in VC as well for CR cup?

>>4403310
At the very least, the boys aren't as restricted when it comes to collabing judging by the amount of external collabs they have
Imagine the day Hayato somehow manages to collab with Roberu (or maybe even with Astel/Shien) while Polka is just stuck with collabing within Hololive only

>>4404693
>we
Don't drag me down with your EOP ass, cunt, if you like your homos so much, then at least do your reps. And looking up it's like this anon said >>4404530, the only clips with more views are the ones where holo girls show up.

>>4401453
that's not a problem JP members because pall of the members except Izuru and Oga were experienced members of NND groups

Make future gens appeal to specific sorts of fanbases and push very hard into them
Examples could be RTS, GSG, stuff like WoT or War Thunder, just something outside of the female chuubas.
There is a hefty amount of people watching on Twitch so they're there, but having a bunch of guys whose main claim to fame is playing shooters all day isn't interesting when you have a ton of the girls doing the exact same thing. The only exception is someone who's played shooters so much that he's genuinely amazing at the game and is interesting to watch over everyone else.
Make them stand out compared to the girls because more often than not I find myself switching to Ame's Apex stream rather than Aruran's and realize on top of this that a healthy female audience isn't attainable for the majority of them.

>>4405068
Don't respond to me like that you, piece of shit. I was saying "we" as in the general viewer, retarded idiot. Go fuck yourself

>>4404284
Suzaku graduated at the time Cover still uncertain about being a vtuber company. Cant blame him. That time none of Holostar has 10k sub and stream with below 100 viewers. I really think they gonna graduated any soon. But the grow of Hololive help them a lot. Cover become a vtuber company and start bringing Holostar back.

give up on JP, focus on HoloStarsEN

>Holostars EN
Hell no lmao, the Hololive EN alone already bring so much toxicity to the community, now you want to bring Stars EN to the community, if by any chance one of the dudes is a westards especially 4ch dudes, i am going a total anti to them. let holostars as they are, the fans are pretty chill and there are almost no spam, don't ruin it with your number fagging shit

>but the toxcity
>4chan
lmao

Of course Cover dont allow Hololive collab with Holostar. They dont want to become a 2nd manjisanji.

>>4405358
>Says they'll bring toxicity
>Immediately says he's going to be the source of it out of spite for someone who hasn't done anything.

>>4405012
>They're more concerned with retaining their fans and not angering them
You understand why they have to do this, right anon?

>>4405407
If you read the thread you would know that Cover is no longer blocking them from cross collabs with Hololive but I suppose you are here to say bullshit and see if it sticks

>>4405012
It was an Apex Tournament thing , it doesnt apply to other stuff (only of course if the girls managers are shit , which is not really surprising considering Cover's management reeks of incompetence) , Suisei collabs with male vtuber sometimes on her Music Space streams , collabs with male vtubers (very rarely) on their channels

Sora collabs with male Vtubers when she feels like it and when shes not busy (same goes for Azki)

Watame appeared on a tv show and interacted with a male tv host

Marine collabed with Tomokazu sugita , the mastermind lunatic behind Touhou and with other males in a few occasions

Ayame plays Apex with kuroneko and forgot that guys name on their channels , because theyve been friends for a long time

Coco's roomate appeared on various programs with men from NND , interacted with Kaoru on various occasions when he was still a member of the Holostars , and her fanbase wouldnt really care if she collabs with a male vtuber

Subaru collabs on special occasions with Maimoto from Nijisanji

aside from these members i dont think anyone else interacts with males now (disregarding that period where Hololive freely collabed with Nijisanji male livers)

Last year I was feeling bad for whostars, because it seemed like they were just getting fucked over by Cover, nowadays, I think they don't deserve to be part of Cover.
At this point they all branched out a bit and did their network, but honestly, they're just boring and have nothing to offer. The amount of viewers and sub numbers they have now, is more than good enough for them. Rikka and Astel, need to stop begging for collabs too, if they weren't literal whos, they'd have a lot of antis by now.

>>4405436
just look at some thread of /vt/ lmao, if those number fags somehow found their way to Cover, well, you probably know what's gonna happen

>>4405512
>>4405593
Newfags... it's the girls that don't want to collab with the holostars. Miko literally said, that she won't collab with holostars, because she is an idol.

>>4405677
>Le Cover has incompetent recruiting maymay
You faggots did this before EN and you were doing this for Vsinger and EN 2
Stop trying to take away my /k/ autist.

>>4405736
It's not Cover blocking them then, no? I was right. It's up to the girls to collab with Holostars

>>4405736
anon.....You should know by now that thats just an excuse , theyre waaaay past the whole idol stuff , no one really takes that very seriously

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGZz_zdb7ho&t=2s

>>4405617
I can understand Astel having antis since he's apparently pretty divisive among JOPs but why Rikka? He or his roommate hasn't seem to have done anything worth garnering antis.

>>4405844
He's probably a retard mad that Rikka collab with Mori, even though from what we know of them Mori is the one who's more likely to be the party who wanted it.

>>4406132
Mori said that she can't invite people for collabs, so it's a given that the invitation came from him.

>>4405617
>they're just boring and have nothing to offer
>I think they don't deserve to be part of Cover

And you need to get off the internet , the mount of faggotry your post alone has is enough to make Trump develop a menstrual cycle

>>4405824
>no one really takes that very seriously
>after the luna-luna shitshow
EOPsama !?

>>4405617
>Astel
>begging for collabs

>>4406204
>after the luna-luna shitshow

wait what happened with Luna again ?

Spoonfeed me Anon-chama

>>4406204
>luna-luna shitshow
I'd like to request one (1) spoonfeeding please

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give up on jp
focus on en

>>4405824
>i'm an idol
>i'm idol myself
>my fans might get jealous, so I'm not doing collabs with them
>danchou is an idol
>i'm an idol
>there are no connections between ourselves anyways
have you watched the video you posted?

>>4406466
>first she says that shes an idol , then quickly moves on to say that her fans might get jealous and then again say that shes not good with men

If she truly believed that shes an idol she would stop at that part without even needing to go back and forth and mentioning other stuff , so yeah its just an excuse anon-kun , she herself knows it hence why she kind of apologized for it (because a few months after Hololive Gen 3 debuted , Holostars and INNK merged with Hololive under Holo production , and at that time they were ghosting Holostars so she felt bad about it and just a few months recently admitted that , she didnt specifically say that but its rather obvious )

>>4399236
How would we even convince Cover to make HolostarsEN when they don't even care about their JP branch?

>>4399090
Nothing, they're not autistic enough to be entertaining.

>>4406773
meaning ?

>>4406425
>>4406438
>Pekora was streaming that horse game
>She gets a notification during the stream from LunaLuna
>LunaLuna is a period and fertility tracker app
>nips go insane
>they assume that she is using the app because she is having sex
>LunaLuna ends up trending on twitter
>normal nips read the tag and laugh at the retarded idolfags for freaking out, because it's normal for women to use these apps regardless of having a bf or not
>drama dies out, as a false alarm

>>4406849
it's hilarious how incel mindset is so universal

>>4406849
Goddamn, I wanna swallow her tampons

>>4406763
>holo says she won't collab with male because she is an idol
>"n-no that doesn't count, and it's an excuse"
Are you an ESL that can't read english or just plain retarded?

>>4403897
>This would unironically attract a lot of female westerners
>This will also make their fanbase toxic.

To be honest, a lot of them are pretty boring when they are doing solo streams. I like astel and roberu, but i cannot in my life finish a long rikka game stream without falling asleep. Some of their content is way too niche too.

>>4403897
>Astel is bi and constantly calls Temma cute and sometimes says flirty things to Shien as well
>Hanakishi in general
>Shien and Oga's BL play

I think they got that covered.

>>4399090
turn all men gay.

>>4399090
Holostars EN won't save them, male EN speaking Nijiggers consistently have sub 100 viewers. No one wants to watch anime fuckboys but most normies will give a pass to a balding 30 something dude playing the latest streamerbait game with their webcam on, because they can relate to them. Unironically it's the opposite of female streamers, webcam thots are instantly seen as whores but female vtubers have a better reputation because they don't rely on showing tits.

posted this somewhere else posting it here now too
I think holostars EN is a bad idea, especially right now. Here are some reasons why:
>Holostars depends on the connections formed within the group, it's one of their main pulls. Everybody in the group feels like they're close friends compared to Hololive, who all feel distant except with their cliche. If some EN dudes joined, the communication would probably feel really awkward.
>EN dudes wouldn't have anybody to collab with. Collabs with two people who don't speak the same language get boring in the first 10 minutes, there are too many tards in the holomyth chat which would hurt the EN dudes, and cover is fucking stupid when it comes to collabs with english independents.
>Holostars JP need more JP fans, not more english ones. EN dudes would just encourage more english fans when the JP chat is already dominated by english watchers.
>Cover will fuck up the management for EN dudes. They fucked up with holostars management already, you think they wont fuck up again knowing even less about their audience?
>Holostars needs more funding, if holostars EN happened, it would split funding even more.
>The boys are still dealing with Kira and Kaoru's graduations, Shien has said before that he wants to wait a while before having anybody join.
Maybe in a year or 2 Holostars EN would be a better idea, but I doubt cover would want to start holostars EN anyway. If you wanna join holostars EN, ask yourself if it's because you want to stream, collab with the holostars, or collab with hololive. If it's because you wanna stream, go independant. If it's because you wanna collab with holostars, support holostars being able to collab with independents more. If it's because you wanna collab with hololive, eat a bag of dicks, it wouldn't happen anyway you simp.

>>4399714
LMFAO

>>4406849
holy grass

>>4405358
Any western dude who'd apply for the position is either full reddit or goes on 4chan.

Astel gets on average 900-1000 viewers. That's really good. My oshi gets 50-60...

>>4407600
Pass your oshi, nigga

>>4399090
rename them to manjisanji

Thing about holostars EN is anyone who'd actually apply would be either
>a redditor
Fuck no
>goes on 4chan
FUCK no
>a youtuber
FUCK NO

>>4405736
it's still funny that she made that declaration a mere two months after her last collab with males

>>4407321
a bilingual in another JP gen would be a nigger benefit right now but it's understandable why they feel its not time to add any

>>4408131
>a redditor that goes on 4chan and puts it all on youtube

>>4408272
if they consider mori calliope bilingual then we're fucked

>>4408131
Isn't being a youtuber one of the requirements to apply?

>>4408272
Tenma is slowly becoming a bilingual, just give him 10 more years

>>4408327
no? didn't you read the app?

>>4408327
No but it definitely gives you extra points

>>4408235
>>4405824

Its an excuse , and a bad one at that , they just want to cather to gachikois and idol obssessed fags without triggering them , thats why they decided not to interact with men

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6h0rbjWx5E

>>4400145
>incline this year
I remember first watching Aruran around May 2020. He barely had 5 digit subscribers and below 100 average viewers. Recently he selebrated 100k. Stars are already inclining, just not as fast as main or EN branch, which are already outliers.

>>4405844
I remember on his 3D debut Matsuri appeared. Dislikes started popping like mushrooms and l*ger chimped-out in his Discord.

I don't think they need saving. Compared to the girls, yeah their sub and viewer counts are tiny but they are growing at a decent rate as compared to last year. My guess is that you don't watch them often or even at all.

I rather that they grow slowly at their own pace than to spam collabs with the girls which will them look like leeches.

If you want to help you can just start watching them. Roberu is the easiest to get into it, just search "meat beating stream roberu" for as a starting point.

>>4408784
>they are growing at a decent rate as compared to last year
they only grow in small drips because people remember that Holostars exist and pity follow. that's why their sub counts have been slowly climbing but their active viewers have stagnated for month. it's not real growth.

Jerma craft streams

>>4399236
That's how you get a Woolie vtuber

>>4408784
>"meat beating stream roberu" for as a starting point.

you have , your priorities in check i see

>>4399090
graduate them tbqh. I saw a homostar roommate who has more live views playing TRPG than he was in homostar career.

>>4408413
>they just want to cather to gachikois and idol obssessed fags without triggering them
Well, their fans are insecure as fuck so they have to do that. See >>4406849
Even Subaru hasn't interact with Maimoto since forever. The ones that would interact with male right now are Towa because she doesn't have anything to lose anymore, Matsuri because she just doesn't care, and that one pink HoloEN.

>>4408327
Content creation experience, streaming, song covers, youtubing, etc.

>>4409053
i agree with this, by staying in holostar not only that they debuff themselves they also debuff the girls. graduation is a win-win solution for both party.

>>4409159
give solutions or fuck off faggot

>>4405512
Don't lose your time with the retard. This dude outside of hating nijisanji also hates male vtubers so no surprise seeing him against holostars.

>>4405824
It literally an excuse that only reddit and youtube comments buys.

>>4407196
Where are you seeing male en nijisanji with sub 100 viewers? There's only ID and KR and none of those speak mainly english or at all

>>4408914
Their active viewer numbers grew as compared to last year.

I remember watching Oga's late night zatsudan streams (which are lower in views as compared to his monhun or retro game streams) hovering around 200 in 2020 Oct to now recently around 400ish. Small in raw numbers but that's a x2 growth compared to just 6 months ago

Honestly, I think the girls' growth are more of an exception than the trend. But I don't watch the girls except during collabs with the stars and the ID branch so idk if that's the truth. Regardless of that, I still think that they are still growing and just need more time to bloom that's all.

>>4409045
As the saying goes: "like father like Son"

>>4409129
They attract these people because they pander to them do you not understand? Why is it that every time this topic is brought up everyone white knights and says “it’s not the girls fault” when it definitely is.

>>4408515
His celebration streams are always great

>>4399090
I have an idea but none of you are gonna like it.
Holostars EN.

>>4410183
What's wrong with them pandering to their fans because they care about them? It sounds like you just want to see them fail.

>>4405844
Rikka gained his own antis when he first collabed with Matsuri, Bilibili unicorns sperged out bad enough that Matsuri had to post there to try and calm them down

>>4399090
needs dakooters

there's not enough gays in this medium to support them, just let them go

>>4411766
Nijisanji male vtubers are successful and they have a big female audience , youre the one with a gay opinion

>>4411847
That's why I think the problem lies with Cover. They don't promote nor invest much in Holostars compared to Nijisanji who invests a lot more in male vtubers. For crying out loud Nijisanji's most successful vtuber is male.

>>4400482
>even someone that has more of an "old out-of-style dad" vibe to him.
Literally pizzadad

>>4412199
pizzadad has that vibe but watching him learning and using slangs like "yeet" and "thicc" he feels more of the dad in the "are you winning son" meme

>>4412129
Cover is definitely at fault in good part for Holostars current state, they haven't put even half as much effort in promoting and investing in the boys as they have the girls, when you look back to see their history, it's pretty baffling to see just how badly they have handled them, heck, they didn't even have a manager when the main branch were already getting some, it really is no wonder that Robe himself thought that the branch would get dissolved before Holocomi, they were treated that badly.
People aren't really wrong when they say that the bous would be much better off in another agency or even as indies, being part of Hololive is nothing short of debuff for them and Kaoru and Suzaku are big proof of that.
>>4412199
I think Aru feels more like the dude from the "How you doin' fellow kids" meme if Im being honest.

>>4399955
And Fubuki and Matsuri struggle to even get 200k views on their videos, even though they are among the most famous holos. It's fine to want for Holostars success, but not at the expense of the holos.
I think YAGOO is an idiot for creating a male idol agency. I don't understand idol culture, but it's clear it was a bad idea.

>>4399090
Maybe, just maybe... there is no audience for this sort of thing. At least not at a scale that's sustainable.

>>4399090
have never watched it and will. simply niji is better

>>4399236
western male vtubers are nothing but trash. theres zero interesting indie one. they all fucking suck big time.

>>4412660
>theres zero interesting indie one. they all fucking suck big time.
What about that one guy with pink hair who plays rhythm games. Naikaze. He's cute.

>>4412660
Go suck your Chronoir cock elsewhere Fujoshi faggot

>>4399236
They better catch dakooters before someone else does, they even said they got accepted as a vtuber somewhere but it was probably some indie

>>4412579
It's not that it was a bad idea, there's definitely a market for male vtubers, it's just that Cover has handled Holostars piss poor so of course they're not doing well if their own company barely supports them. Like >>4412129 said, Nijisanji's most popular vtuber is Kuzuha, a male vtuber so it's not like it's impossible to become successful as a male vtuber just because they're not some cute anime girl. Cover just needs to step up their game with Holostars and actually put them out on the map more. It would also help if we had more clippers for Holostars because clippers are one of the biggest reasons for Hololives huge spread and success in the west.

>>4412606
There is, in spics, there is a shit ton of lonely hormonal teenager girls that literally kill themselves for their idols, mainly boy bands, and most of them watch anime, I believe something like holostars would be successful in Spanish but they would have to keep it super idol like pure to the point of not interacting with females, beasically the mirror of most of JP, male idols with female gachikois that form parasocial relationships with the streamer

>>4405736
Miko hates men and is a dyke so she doesnt count

>>4412705
im a man. rarely watch male vtubers. hololive lacks light hearted male vtubers like maimoto. even kuzuha is light hearted and doesnt try hard.

western male vtubers fucking suck probably because they are just waifu obsessed faggots and just want to get closer to female ones. they wont entertain people.

>>4406960
The nijis already pander to fujos

>>4405064
I sure miss the vugar pink princess who would be allowed to make handjob videos
https://youtu.be/HxnXKGNMrWU
This whole idol schtik id getting boring

>>4411369
>It sounds like you just want to see them fail.
Not having insane gachikoi doesn't mean they will fail. Not that anon, but it's just how people seem to act as if this kind of fanbase is an inevitability but that's from the Creator's decisions on who they pander to. If they *actually* wanted to do these kinds of things they wouldn't have pandered to this crowd. It's why the lip service of why they won't collab with the guys is just kinda bullshit since it's been their decision from the start with how they've cultivated their audience.

Convince Sseth to join StarsEN.

>>4413068
polka isnt even trying to be an idol. im not a big fan of her but shes getting better and learning everyday like shes starting to show her flexibility in recent collabs..

you dont even watch her shows and streams.

>>4413146
Yeah shes creative but being in an agency comes with many restrictions, its one of the reasons coco isnt allowed asacoco anymore

Roberu would attract a lot of fans if he streamed more and played better games.

>>4399090
Heck no, they don't need saving, they're already doing fine. Besides, I don't want to pay just to interact with Vtuber like those holowhores

>>4413209
huh? coco shit is all because of chinks. blame those chink bugs.

holo jp doesnt have any strict rule. matsuri has talked about literally sex and dick with chaika whos a niji male vtuber. im sure its polcas decision. nobuhime was very close to tamaki, but she hasnt collabed with her after becoming polka.

>>4413232
Speaking of, what the hell happened to his NY resolution of streaming more often anyway? If anything, it looks like he decreased his streams. Surely it's not just because of him moving to a new place?

>>4412921
>im a man. rarely watch male vtubers. hololive lacks light hearted male vtubers like maimoto. even kuzuha is light hearted and doesnt try hard.

>>Astel
>>Miyabi
>>Temma
>>Shien
>>Rikka

i dont know what you exactly mean by lighthearted but Holostars has plenty of that , its just that like you said "you never watched them" , whats even ironic is that you start calling them boring when you never actually opened a single one of their streams you faggot

>>4413331
im fluent in japanese, so judge anything japanese so quickly.
lighthearted is like "like your friendly neighbors or senpais". niji male vtubers dont try to come off as japanese hosts or idols. also niji is more anime/light novel leaning, some of the are actually like lighthearted anime characters in slice of life anime.

these holo male members however look stiff and a bit tyr-hard to me, and probably its the average japanese perspective.

>>4413566
Judging them without watching them just makes you a cunt.
None of the boys seriously think of themselves as idols and they're easily the most laid-back group in Holopro.

>>4413303
I don't know for sure, but I trust his judgement because he seems to understand well the vtuber gig and has quite his head on straight compared to average in HoloPro.
He is the one who understood early in his branch how important it was to do his networking reps, not neglecting his local fans despite his global success and focus on the domestic audience, keep a sane distance with his fans to avoid any unhealthy parasocial relationship if you check his interactions offstream.
Maybe, he tries to lower his pace after the last hectic year to avoid burnout, because even if the guy managed to stream morning streams everyday for such a long time, you end up running in circles for a while. The advantage is that his content, especially his collabs, feels less stale even if him being evasive and skipping days is indeed fairly frustrating.

>>4413755
are you stupid. you can judge anything quickly if you are fluent in the language. again, male vtubers arent my cup of tea. i only watch niji ones when they are joining some collab with niji girls, so im actually casual about them, but to casuals like me, holo male vtubers just dont look interesting at all.

also i dont think there are so many "serious fanbases for male vtubers" i mean, unlike female vtubers, there arent any gachikoi-fanbases, thus they need to give casuals like me attention, and if they cant their popularity will just never rise.

>>4412795
>Nijisanji's most popular vtuber is Kuzuha
Kuzuha isn't an analogue for the Holostars. He's a gamer and his target demographic is male gamers that don't care for the gender of the streamer.
A correct analogue is Niji's VΔLZ and they are all struggling. The male idol chubas aren't a thing yet.
You can also compare Fubuki and Matsuri with Niji's Sereine All-Girls School, which was an all female idol-like unit. They are struggling because the concept of idol interacting with men doesn't work in Vtubing.
I think that if you want numbers and money, you segregate the genders. If you want a mentally healthier environment for the chuba, you mix them.
YAGOO's company floats because of unicorns and yet he put male chubas next to his idols. It only brought pain to his chubas.

>>4413566
I have always found them more enjoyable with funny quirky games. Maybe that could be a way to reach a larger audience? Play something weird and funny and letting themselves react naturally?

>>4412579
I agree with you in both points, the success of one group shouldn't come at the expense of another and Yagoo was frankly a fool, but not for the reasons you say, I honestly think Holostars could have done much better, maybe not as good as Hololive but I think they could have at a similar level as several Nijisanji males, but as several anons, like >>4412795 and >>4412129, have stated, Cover fucked over the boys hard, they didn't put almost any real effort into promoting and investing on them as they did with the girls which of course led to the boys' growth getting gimped hard and even to this day Cover still doesn't invest and promote them enough, if they actually put in some real effort and made better decisions when it comes to that (like making them a version of Hologra to attract in new viewers, trying to get them more sponsorships, push for more appeareances in events, etc.), the boys would have been doing significantly better, again maybe not as well as the girls but certainly better than they are rn, as it is, the boys have to handle all that themselves 'cause Cover clearly won't help them there.
>>4413303
I think he is trying to avoid burn out, he seems to be pretty busy with a lot of stuff, both personal (like moving out) and profesional (like his radio show with OnoYuu, the upcoming Holostars event, the Suntempo project Astel has mentioned a few times), man gave it his last year, and it's likely that he realized he was starting to bite more than he could chew and decided to reduce his streaming time to rest more and avoid getting too burn out.

>>4413899
You have already admitted to not watching them, so your opinion on them is worthless. You being fluent in Japanese means nothing.

>>4399236
StarsEN sounds gay

>>4414010
depends on a type. if you want to love or play quirky games, imo you should be like maimoto or gorilla. like some comedian for a good laugh. i find big man tyrone very vtuber-like.

if you want to be some cool vtuber, you should be a high skilled gamer. generally, high skilled ones get attention. and what this guy >>4413983 is saying right from my experience. trying to get attention from female vtubers or a female audience is wrong because simply most girls dont watch gaming videos in the first place. especially actions and shooters and such. its like we watch some knitting videos.

>>4399090
Not much. Vtubing is a venue for girls only, and if you don't like that - tough shit, it's the reality. Homos will always have an audience, but it won't be a large one.

>>4399090
Why does anyone need to "save" them? Because of brand loyalty? Be honest, you wouldn't care about any of them of fixate on their performance (or lack thereof) if they weren't adjacent to Hololive.

>>4399090
Recommend me some holostars or holostar streams to check out. I've seen like one Robaru stream and that's about it.

>>4400499
Why do weebs love Astel so much?

>>4414544
Shien's GTA 5 streams

>>4414559
Good singing (hits high notes casually), Very entertaining, Good at games, Does fanservice to them

>>4400499
That number recently went down to 70% according to Astel on his collab with Miyako and Bosna

>>4412579
>And Fubuki and Matsuri struggle to even get 200k views on their videos
maybe if Coco hadn't driven away a good chunk of Fubuki's viewer base (remember that Fubuki hit 1 million subs on bilibili 3 months before she hit it on YT) and Matsuri hadn't decided to turn into a dedicated Apex streamer and get into arguements with Matsurisu about it...

>>4414293
If male vtubers try to compete with normal streamer bros they'll just get annihilated because the whole virtual avatar thing is a distraction and too gay for the audience. Streamer bros either show their real face or nothing at all and their avatar is at best just a logo associated with their channel/stream.

>>4413983
>A correct analogue is Niji's VΔLZ and they are all struggling.
As a straight guy I really dislike their designs, they feel more pandering to otomege heroes than most other Nijisanji male livers whose designs have more "bro energy" even if they're still handsome dudes. I wouldn't be surprised if that's one reason VΔLZ don't get as much attention as the other Niji males.

>>4399236
EN male VTubers are cringe. The only one that's alright off the top of my head is MerryWeathery

>>4414761
All EN vtubers are cringe.

>>4414701
gay for millennials who didnt grow with anime and manga. not for zoomers and KIDS. they get more into japanese stuff like every one of them is reading manga, american comics. vtubers like kuzuha can get attention from preteen nerds/gamers. boys love high skilled gamer vtubers. they look cool to them.

taking aim at preteens is what the west hasnt even tried now. so japanese contents dominate all the geeky industries for preteens now.

>>4414833
>american comics
*not american comics

Reminder that success of Holostars rides not only on talents, but on the absolutely massive size and volume of Shinove's balls.
Cover fucking WISHES their Hololive managers were half as good.
One horny retard molests Mel and now all female branch is locked out of having competent people helping them out.

>>4414833
I am admittedly too old to know what the fuck appeals to young kids.

>>4401732
BASED non female Niji

>>4414544
not OP but here's some i think it's good for first time viewers. I'm assuming someone who doesn't know Japanese beyond kusa and greetings.

Arurandeisu English Slang learning stream:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kjSzCQnk7k

Roberu's meat beating (no more horny) stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PLAN8SBpMQ

For Apex and god tier singing just go the Astel's channel and click any of his videos he does like 70% apex

If you like weird funny voice acting there is Shien's DDLC playthrough it's basically him giving the girls jojo voices: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qak_5Aq7qFs

Singing stream that gives you BOYS IN LOCKER ROOM vibes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJ4kN3vSB2E

>>4413232
Robe already doesn't give a fuck about his numbers anymore, dude straight up refuse to stream monhan on his own channel.
Also his best content are always weird streams and collab, especially current Haneru saga. It's really fun to see him constantly lose to Haneru at conversation

>>4415206
Holouters 3 fucking never
Fuck kung flu

>>4399136
kek

>>4415224
>Robe already doesn't give a fuck about his numbers anymore
Lowkey based, ngl.
And yeah, the types of streams you mentioned are indeed his major appeal once you follow him more.

>>4399090
Make it more adult oriented. Drop the idol shit for the guys it clearly doesn't mesh well with.

>>4414544
If you're a song fag Rikka and Astel as easy entry points they are in my opinion within the top 5 singers in Holopro, I especially rate Rikka being in the top 2 with Azki.
Rikka's singing collab with Mori was kino https://youtu.be/hl1oofD34AU

>>4415274
>Holouters 3 fucking never
the Half Life 2 of holostars

If Japan continues to host the Olympics despite the virus they will be hosting a circus with themselves as the clowns

>>4413566
Anon-kun..........You know that the whole "idol" stuff is just a running joke....

Right ? (Holostars dont even play the idol bit at all , some Hololive members do take the idol stuff a bit seriously but the others just stream normaly and do their own thing)

Heres the content of the boys that you deem "boring"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3eZL0VSl6A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCgVaZ5BjjA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzd8VcqGUJU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saiFSu0W_0I&t=3s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8gId3LaQSA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYF_JQ7DslA

>>4414833
What's the point of aiming to build younger fanbase? They don't have money and they'll move on fast. They're worthless.

>>4405617
>Rikka
>literal who
Jesus christ

>got more promotions than EN and ID
>homofags still bitching about "muh promotion"
Just sack the branch already, their fans are more toxic than all SEAniggers combined.

>>4414701
I honestly doubt that, normal en streamers have vtuber fans and wouldn't stop watching that streamer if he became a vtuber.

>>4416100
I blame Ollie for bringing the toxic SEAnigger to Holostars

>>4416100
Are you sure you're not talking about the Nijisanji boys, you stupid faggot?

>>4416159
>holocomi
>shilling during offline event like those CN shit
>bushiroad host
>sake
>chocoball
>countless collabs with FBK, Matuli and ID
>more costume than the ID and EN
>got more help from YAGOO than EN and ID
Huh?

>>4416100
>got more promotions than EN and ID
?

>>4416293
>>4416276

>>4416159
Is there anything you want to say you stupid faggot?

>>4416276
>holocomi
The only thing made by Cover that inclined them
>shilling during offline event
For existing fans
>bushiroad host
Useless
>sake
For existing fans
>chocoball
Choco, not Cover
>countless collabs with FBK, Matuli and ID
Same as above, it's thanks to the talents, not Cover
>more costume than the ID and EN
For existing fans
>got more help from YAGOO than EN and ID
Like what? Appearing on stream?

Holocomi was on May last year on there hasn't been any attempt to advertise Holostars to Hololive fans since then. The only thing Cover is doing is making sure their oil barons spend money regularly

>>4418323
Why bother with the Hololive fans?
There is barely any overlap with the Holostars fans and I say it as someone who mainly watch Stars nowadays.
And the efforts are not worth it when you see the the type of audience holos get at the end.

>>4418862
Because they are the only ones Cover can mobilize. The other times the stars have inclined in when they participated in events outside of Cover's control

>>4415728
>money
does that shit matter? lol im not gonna be a vtuber but if i did, wouldnt give a fuck. most niji vtubers dont make so much money. maybe its a difference between jp and en vtubers but anyway, id think getting money is a secondary result. sharing fun with viewers is the first purpose. if i were a 12-16yo gamer kid now, maybe id find a high skilled gamer vtuber cool. you probably had such a vibe as a kid too. remember that. the modern west absolutely lacks such creators, so preteen geek culture is dominated by japan.

>>4415684
i dont think normal men enjoy these things. niji male vtubers collab with others a lot, and apex shit aside, their collabs are more like a light hearted comedy show. i only watch something like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwmZ_kB9r-o

i tend to watch holo jp more than nijisanji jp though. also i dont want holo jp and holostars to get together because if they do, holo jps "radical female comedy" style will be totally broken. nijis environments are simply better for male vtubers.

>>4414559
Fujos, not even kidding.

>>4420583
Good try but wrong. Astel doesn't have any pairing with any of the Holostars boys, nor is he trying to get one

>>4420681
>what is AsuIzu?
Astelfags please take your meds, you're not helping

>>4399090
Homostars EN is the only way.
First talent: Neil Cicierega.

>>4420854
Are you for real? The two of them are like brothers, they never flirt with each other nor have they ever talked about each other in that light

>>4420854
Thats their duo name for when they collab you faggot

so making every Vtuber who comes up with a name for when they collab is now considered cathering to Fujoshis ? what kind of dogshit argument is that

>>4420854
Thats their duo name for when they collab you faggot

so every Vtuber who comes up with a name for when they collab is now considered cathering to Fujoshis ? what kind of dogshit argument is that

>>4401374
Best post in this entire thread.

>>4418323
>>chocoball
>Choco, not Cover
fucking newfag

>>4418323
Just because it doesn't meet your expectation you can't deny it that Cover gave them more promotions than other side branches you fag

>>4423457
FBK was already mentioned, so Chocoball became a good excuse to talk about Choco

>>4423521
Promotion means introducing them to a new audience. Cover doesn't do this, they just keep milking the existing audience

>>4399090
graduate them all and recruit men with actual talent and personalities

>>4423673
https://twitter.com/tanigox/status/1339152385118093312

>>4423743
fuck off elsewhere Manjisanji cuck

>>4399090
Give them a slut. A slut that gets abused by each of them in a regular basis

>>4423743
>recruit men with actual talent and personalities
Why waste time and money on that when you can just recruit more talentless whores with no personalities instead?

>>4413299
Not a rrat, she can't do asacoco because they told her not to. It's also the reason Kanata can't do idol otaku tenshi after the first episode

>>4416276
>more costume than the ID and EN
You do know that the only ones with more outfits than EN and ID are Gen1 and Suntempo, right? Which debuted before ID and especially EN did, MaFia, which debuted a little before ID, has the same amount of outfits as ID1 and EN currently do, heck if you count the Walfie models as alternate outfits, then EN has more outfits than ID and MaFia.

>>4426273
after* sorry, woke up recently.

>>4423718
This, most of the promotions Cover does for them are th kind that aren't aimed at new fans, they are aimed at existing fans, after all who is gonna get the sake with their faces on? Most will be existing fans or people that just like brand without giving a shit about who appears on the label.

>>4414650
He has high viewership too so maybe they brought in more JP viewers for him.

>>4413899
>there arent any gachikoi-fanbases
Lol

>>4413983
>A correct analogue is Niji's VΔLZ and they are all struggling. The male idol chubas aren't a thing yet.
They don’t even brand themselves as idols, it’s kind of hard to explain but because of a combination of reasons they have this sort of “for women” feel (even though it’s mostly just them being themselves) which ends up turning a lot of potential male viewers away. I wouldn’t say they’re “struggling” though, but that’s besides the point
Kuzuha and Kanae literally brand themselves as idols pretty much but they have broader appeal that a lot of men can enjoy so they don’t have the same problem

>>4399951
No. Genderbend Hololive.

>making a thread to falseflag homostar fans and perpetuate the idea that they're unsuccesful or that most fans want cross-branch collabs
kys antis

>>4399090
Hololive needs to take their male streamers to a different direction. Like towards competitive gaming.

>>4439433
I'd watch a vtuber esports team ngl

>>4439137
bastet homoshit

>>4399090
Unironically graduation.
The "Holostars" label is holding them back.

>>4439583
by existing they also debuff the girls, people don't want to admit it but this unironically is the best option for everybody.

>>4429640
Just like the girls.

>blame COVER
>blame hololive
>blame hololive fans
EVERY! FUCKING! TIME!

>>4405810
Cover also blocks some collabs until they have checked the participants's background. Collabs between hololive and holostars need at least four different passes, the girl, the boy, the girl's manager, the boy's manager, and maybe some upper managers.

>>4400243
Kanae gets like 7k viewers just fucking around in Valorant what are you talking about?

>>4443029
I blame Watame

>>4443750
Gotta love that bureaucracy. But maybe it's easier between company chuubas, so bureaucracy might not be necessarily the problem

>>4414749
This is the same thing people say about Holostars, that their design is too otomegame like
>>4415728
If you become trendy enough with kids to have merchs to sell them, you'll get more money than with SC
>>4433593
>brand themselves as idols
No, they don't. They make shows and pander to their fujoshi, but Niji doesn't market them as idols, but VΔLZ was definitely marketed as male idols before their debut

>>4444619
They literally call themselves men’s idols

>>4445205
sauce

>>4443029
the last one is right though.
EOPs holofans won't watch them because
>male
and JOPs holofans won't watch them because
>ユニコーン

>>4445445
Watch them more

>>4445640
bs then

>>4445775
Ok

>>4406163
Mori can't but Kiara can? What's up with her manager?

>>4399090
they should find a real job

>>4408779
>>4411371
Is it true? kek

>>4406849
kimo otas always giving normal nips bad rep kek

There's no saving them, best we can do is shoot them ourselves so that they won't ever get to feel regret

>>4445633
the only people who are watching them are eop holofans though?

>>4411369
>holosluts care about their gachikoi
They want the piggy bank money, they don't hold affection for their pigs kek

>>4406958
Not that anon, but it's an obvious lie. C'mon... The reason is that she doesn't want to upset her incel orbiters.

>>4446323
A very small minority.

>>4446025
Who says that Kiara can invite anyone?

>>4407146
This is true, but Rikka is a musician. Like Mori, whose gaming streams are also snore fests

>>4445633
>you can't have your own preferences and need to cater to this small minority
You act like niggers or those blue haired fags.

>>4445633
If I want to watch a better male I'll go to twitch and watch those esport pros, or Shaka. And JOPs are bunch of office drones with almost no time to interact with women, so I can't blame them.
Blame your own kind, they don't give enough support.

>>4409341
That anon was just being honest. Holostars was a mistake. YAGOO fucked it up
I'm not stars' anti. It's just that being a male idol sibling of the Hololive group is a debuff to both groups just by existing.
>give solutions or fuck off faggot
My solution to YAGOO is to create a new all male group under a subsidiary or LLC. But not an IDOL group. A gamer one. Specifically Apex. Yeah, I don't like that game but nips do. Make it a 4 men unit to breed competition among them and send them off to all tourneys he can.
The subsidiary or LLC part is important for the dumb masses not see that this group isn't under the same corps as Hololive.
One of the rules should be for them to not collab with femate chubas, especially not Hololive, to not alienate femcorns. Male gamers don't care if their streamer never interacts with women.

>>4447264 (me)
>dumb masses not see that this group is under the same corps as Hololive
oops

>>4408955
I can unironically see Woolie applying for holostarsEN

>>4399090
lol fuck off saviorfag. Just watch them then

>>4447425
>Woolie
Wasn't that the guy that once got matched and then lost to Shien during a Guilty Gear stream?

>>4421015
I want to see a StarsEN blow up so big that he gets female unicorns that seethe if he even thinks about collabing with a women. Would be some funny irony.

>>4442991
Not really, the girls have gotten plenty of promotions that were aimed at getting new fans or that worked better at attracting new fans, the Azur Lane and Priconne ones come to mind as examples of that, with the AL one having attracted quite a numbers of new fans to Hololive.
>>4446624
Eh, to be fair some of his gaming stream are pretty entertaining to see due to the skill he tends to show on some of them, his Hollow Knight one comes to mind, man was first timer and pretty much speedran the game and even completed Path of Pain, it was pretty impressive to see desu.

>>4447646
Just watch Kuzuha and Kanae, then. You're literally describing them, except the Holostars part

>>4449359
>plenty
One big collab that's AL.
>Priconne
Literally the same shit as Bushiroad. Holy fuck, homofags and their victim playing tendencies.

>>4414666
>maybe if Coco hadn't driven away a good chunk of Fubuki's viewer base
Fuck off, zhang.