/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>43960575
>Suisei
No proof
>Pekora
Just reading what youtube stats say
Try harder.

>>43960575
Let them eat the crumbs

No need to "escape' anything, they'll kill themselves soon enough.

>hidding the likes and views
faggotiest thread I've seen in weeks

>5% males
>2% female
>93% trannies
We lost...

>>43960575
hololive went woke? wtf

Japan has loved lgbt poz shit for way longer than the west. Japan was never based

chuds.... we lost........

>>43960575
yea the nijisanji logo follows me everywhere

Or they didn't want to give all their personal information to a multibillion dollar company

>>43960630
>>No proof
watch her concert

Suisei said she is an asexual genderfluid person so its understandable.

>>43960575
Because Japan isn’t a two-party political system that engage into a "culture war" where you HAVE to pick a side or else you’re a bigot or a troon.

In Japan no one ever discuss or care about politics. There is no huge political movement that is either pro or anti LGBT. There is no one trying to teach LGBT related stuff to children in school, there is no one trying to kill them for religious reason.

So they’re all in a relative middle ground of "I guess they exists" and they don’t care.

>>43960922
Cope

I'm not autistically obsessed with hating trans so I don't care.

>>43960994
you HAVE to choose between the hungry hammer and the virgin windmill, cuck

>>43960672
No, absolutely not. It begins with the crumbs, then they come for what's on your plate, and then they come for you. Absolute wild animals.
Gatekeep or stfu.

Bros... /pol/ told me Japan was a right wing paradise where they gas all trannies and child porn of little girls is freely distributed in convenience stores...

I can coexist with trans, but if they keep fucking up the catalog and my Twitter timeline with their virtuesignaling, I might go the Wyatt route

>>43960575
gotta support the cause, chuds

>>43960575
Suisei goes on the fucking list then

>>43961111
Why are you watching vtubers if you hate LGBTQ?

>>43960575
Reminder that Suisei's Stellar Stellar is a transgender allegory
>"So I say, what I wanted to be was never a CINDERELLA who waits forever"
>"But the PRINCE who goes and gets things done"
She doesn't want to be a Cinderella (female), she wants to be a Prince (male)

>>43961517
You retard. It means that she won't wait to get helped but instead helps herself. She's her own prince.

>>43961517
I haven't seen this posted in over a year.

>>43961566
so it's a feminist song then

>>43960994
>So they’re all in a relative middle ground of "I guess they exists" and they don’t care.

Which is honestly how I wish it was in the rest of the world.

>>43960887
If you EOP twitter troons really think Pekora is on your side you're in for a very rude awakening if you ever learn Japanese.

>>43961641
No, that just means that she doesn't want to be a useless human being that leeches on people instead of getting work done by herself.

>>43961720
now post this again but in japanese

>>43961043
>hungry hammer and virgin windmill
im so glad i have no idea what that means
god i hate politicsfags so much
i just want to see vtubers

>>43961396
I don't hate people that do gay shit, their fine. I hate people that associate with that moment because it's a poisonous Cult of Personality, along with other progressive idpol movements, used to manipulate stupid people into giving political power to the ruling Elite and bludgeoning everyone else into submission.

>>43960575
I don't know what's more funny, the LGTV niggers thinking Pekora is their ally or thinking that Hololive gives a shit about their movement.

>>43961566
>what I wanted to be was never a CINDERELLA-
she doesn't want to be a female
>-who waits forever
doesn't want to be a repressoid
>But the PRINCE-
she wanted to be a male
>-who goes and gets things done
she wanted to fully transition and pass

>>43961396
I don't hate people that do gay shit, they're fine. I hate people that associate with that movement because it's a poisonous Cult of Personality, along with other progressive idpol movements, used to manipulate stupid people into giving political power to the ruling Elite and bludgeoning everyone else into submission.

Vtubing is a pro LGBT industry

lmao you people dont know anything about hololive if you think they are pro lgbt.

just play holocure, the stamps literally have trans pride flags and lgbt flags in there.

>>43961117
Embracing trannies and faggotry would be a trad conservative thing in Japan. Anti-homosexuality was seen as progressive and civilized in the late 19th century Japan that was going through Westernization and it was only then that they adopted that stance.

>>43960994
>Because Japan isn’t a two-party political system
Yes it is. The rest of your point is correct, but you botched the first sentence.

>>43961848
That is correct.
If you do things as a woman you are now a man and need to get gender reassignment surgery.

>>43962225
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_Japan

Call me when US get a fucking Buddhist party or a party based on a TV channel.

>>43962388
US also has a billion parties, anon.

>>43962420
And the third one can’t even get a seat.

>>43960575
christ fuck off from vtuber stuff.

>>43962225
Japan is pretty much a one-party state, anything that's not LDP has always been an absolute joke. DPJ got once into power but even that was just a LDP breakaway party. Now dead of course.

>>43962466
You will be left behind by society

Uhhh, anyone else remember when PekoMiko had matching lacey leg garters? That was very gay

>>43962661
>Can’t go on Twitter cause of Troons starting witch-hunts
>Can’t go on /Vt/ cause of permavirgins starting witch-hunts

Westerners have brain issues, VTUBING is too much for them to handle, go huff paste retard.

This time it wont be enough with force. This time they will need to be lured to the shower rooms with kind words and the pretense of friendship.

>>43960575
IF the NB are ok with all of them playing HL then w/e

>>43960575
didn't this get those kind of results because some retard on reddit posted the survey link?

Why does vtubing attract so many lgbt folx?

>>43960575
How is this surprising to anyone? Trans people like anime and like the posiblity of using vtubing to hide their gender.

If you want something that excludes trans folk you are pretty off the mark, better get into MMA, football or something like that.

>>43962450
Libertarians had a seat in 2019.

>>43960994
Japan is greater than 90% japanese, the usa is a mutt shithole.

>>43960994
This is the first time I've ever said this but holy fuck I wish I was Japanese

>>43961396
the LGB are fine, it's the other monstrosities that need to fuck off back to nijizangji E(C)N

>>43963602
Hololive isn't for everyone. It's for people who like Hololive the way Hololive is. You're more than welcome to fuck off to Niji or Vshojo and play pretend as a Vtweeter, troon.

>>43963884
That's weird, considering they included a poll option to include everyone...

>no, MY oshi actually agrees with MY political views!
/pol/ lost

Range ban all ESLs.

>>43960994
>So they’re all in a relative middle ground of "I guess they exists" and they don’t care.
Which is unironically where i, and 90% of normies, used to sit. Unfortunately the culture war garbage has destroyed all forms of entertainment.

>>43963952
Mental illness surveys amongst your viewers are fun and interesting. Sadly you'll never get the number down to 0%.

>>43962225
The only political party in Japan is oji-san's paty. Most politicians there are old people, most voters are old people, most laws are pandering specifically to them. This is why Japan is fucked. This is why youngsters doesn't want to fuck and raise a family there. It's a fucking oji-san country.

>>43960915
Honestly my first thought as well.

>>43960575
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-Q9-aGEO7k
always has been

>>43960630
Those YT stats were either programmed by a degenerate or they count bots as genderless.

>>43963812
Lesbianism is just a LARP but faggots are pretty fucking sick too if you refresh your memory and dig deeper. Trannies are just such an unprecedented abomination that anything looks reasonable compared to that.

Reminder that the LGBTQ++++ is a cult movement in the western world and gays/trannies elsewhere aren't necessarily crazed satanic pedophiles.

>>43961814
it's just from a meme mocking the people that force you to choose a side, hungry hammer = commies, virgin windmill = nazis.

>>43961396
Are you retarded?

>>43964246
ah yes, kanata talking about how its nice to sexually assault women without any problem is truly peak trans rep

>>43960575
WHY CANT THESE FUCKING TRANNIES STOP TALKING ABOUT "PLEASE RESPECT MY PRONOUNS" AND JUST ENJOY THE FUCKING STREAMS LIKE A NORMAL PERSON

>>43960575
oh no, the mentally ill are amongus!
>watches vtubers
>posts on /vt/
anyway...

doesn't pekora hate the gays?

>>43965206
>didn't even watch the clip

>>43960575
Who?

>>43960575
>twitter
>insane
oh wow

t in /vt/ stands for troons
So /vt/ is troon containment board

>>43963222
Who has a political problem with Half-Life?

>>43964246
holy clickbait

>>43963812
kys faggot

>>43963222
as a NB myself, i know it's not possible to completely boycot the game or anything HP related. It's fine to play the game, it's just good to be aware that JK is not the best person out there

>>43960575
>Lugia has no gender
/vt/: I LOVE LUGIA!!!!!!!!!!
>Something else has no gender
/vt/: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>43960994
Brainless American culture terrorists aren't satisfied with the "I guess they exist and they're part of society and that's fine" They want to use every means possible to gain power and influence over other people in the world by using LGBTQ+ as their sword and shield.

>>43969375
I’m not saying that there isn’t a political group trying to use LGBT as a sword and shield. But 90% of the people that are gay or trans actually do not participate in any of those groups and just want to live in peace. It’s kinda sad that those group are so powerful and overshadow all other opinions even from the very people they’re "defending".

>>43964471
Lesbians apparently abuse each other when they are "real" so it's better but not by much

>>43960866
Japan have a fetish for femboys in anime but reality is a whole other matter.

>>43969291
>Lugia
the pokemon?

>>43969556
There are 0% of those deranged autogynophilic child molesting pedophiles that just want to be left alone, transgendeism is part mental illness and part fetish.

>>43960866
男の娘/Traps are fundamentally a 2D gag, literally the
>draw a girl
>call it a boy
meme. The fact that there are some retards, especially Western consumers, that take it seriously should not be interpreted as a reflection of real Japanese values.

>>43969738
Virgin windmill it is....

>>43960575
>Make a Google form
>The gender includes a third option by default
Now Keep your/pol/ shit out of here

All gays, lesbians, bisexuals, non binaries, transgenders, and any other type of faggot should die

>>43969830
Go back to twitter

>>43963585
Anime, wrestling, comics....
They're mentally ill, so have taken over every hobby that's primarily been for social outcasts and autists.

>>43969830
>google form
KEK. Show that third option of yours in any medicolegal document, you troon

>>43961117
I know this is mostly a joke but /pol/ has always called Japan degenerate and outright call anime "tranime".
Leftoids are the ones who unironically say Japan is a right wing dystopia whenever they seethe at sexualization in anime.

>>43969556
If you let them use you as a weapon and a shield and don't tell them to fuck off, you're complicit. The only innocent faggots are the ones who actively, public distance themselves from the LGBT cult.

>>43969556
If you let them use you as a weapon and a shield and don't tell them to fuck off, you're complicit. The only innocent faggots are the ones who actively, publically distance themselves from the LGBT cult.

>>43970680
How hard is it to understand that even in the US (where I do not live), 90% do not want to pick a side in your stupid culture war.

This thread is having issues with yt users not specifying their gender and Its hilarious

>>43971010
This is true for Pekora. But Suisei and Kanata said "genderless" verbally. It’s not the result of any pre-existing data from a poll or other youtube stats.

This is just Japan. You can say this kind of stuff without people screeching at it.

>>43970776
You don't get to not pick a side when the American deep state and the American media, the two most powerful entities in the world, are using you as a vehicle to push their agenda and as you put it, a sword and a shield.

It's called responsibility. We all have responsibilities that we don't want. You can neglect your responsibilities, but that doesn't absolve you of them, especially when your neglect is passively empowering psychopaths to have almost full authoritarian control over the entire western world by subverting the ideals of Liberty.

>>43971298
>NNOOOOOOOoooOOOO YOU HAAAAVE TO PICK A SIDE!!!1!!1!1!
nyo

>>43970121
That is not the point underage /pol/ scum. The point is that the opinion wasn't made Pekora, google puts it in there by default.

>>43971387
So you elect to neglect your responsibilities, that's fine, but you WILL get called a troon and you WILL get hit with the ACK meme in the crossfire and I will feel 0 guilt when you finally succumb to the Rope.

And you wonder why no one take amerifat seriously? What kind of chuunii shit is this?

>>43969375
Americans have always been culture terrorists
It’s in their blood

>>43960575
Distinction to note here is that Japan's laws regarding lgbt issues are very outdated. Kept on the books more by the Japanese instinct to keep things running as smoothly as possible than any sort of social issue. When you see stuff about lgbt protests and stuff in Japan it's because lgbt people have genuine discrepancies with the govt. Gay rights will be a drastic social change for Japan I'm interested to see how they'll handle it.

>>43971877
Better go dig for your pag pag or you'll go without eating again, troon.

>>43969738
You’d be suprised how many are just doing the most random of shit like working at a post office and you wouldn’t know

>>43972440
Americans are the ones responsible for the troon menace. You made your fucking bed, now lie in it.

>>43971178
Its important to remember that jap trannies and "xgenders" are not as obnoxious as their western counterparts (yet).
The whole problem with trannies and their adjacents started when they started demanding everyone to indulge their beliefs; in Japan you can still say you don't believe trans women are real women and no one gives a fuck.

>>43960575
That's just the option people choose when they prefer not to disclose their gender.

>>43972645
>you can still say you don't believe trans women are real women and no one gives a fuck.
The secretary of the prime minister got fired not long ago for saying he wouldn’t live next to LGBT people. I don’t think you can say anything in Japan with no consequences.

>>43972721
Thats quite different from just not believing the same thing they do.
Regardless I don't mean to peddle hopium and say that Japan won't eventually give into this retardation. Im saying that I would probably have addressed this stuff in the same casual way Kanata did back when the whole "abolish gender" discourse wasn't in full force.

tst

>>43960575
I thought this was a crime statistics pie chart.

Hopefully once Cover's Holo App comes out they can just completely shut off Twitter engagement (aside from official announcement to continue promoting the brand).

>>43960575
I don't mind most genderless people that much. They don't mutilate themselves or try to "pass" as something they're not, they just don't vibe with the expectations placed upon their gender by their culture.

>>43962496
A reminder that the commie party was once gaining traction in Japan just before this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Inejir%C5%8D_Asanuma

>>43973858
Which is a shame because japanese commies were pretty based back in the day. Nowadays they have been co-opted by libs like every other commie party, though they are still more socially conservative than some western neolibs.

>>43974271
I remember Osamu Dazai mentioning they weren't that "driven" to say.

>>43960575
>Pekora supports trannies
Pekora why...I thought JPs were based

>>43974479
I mean yeah, commies will be commies; if they had real drive they would not have grown demoralized so easily.
Still, lately I have found myself wishing they made it lately; the current state of the world has shown that capitalism might have been much more harmful for traditional values than we feared communism would be.

>>43969756
t. learned everything he knows about Japan from westerners on 4chan

>>43975754
No I learned it from Japan and dlsite

>>43974909
>commies will be commies; if they had real drive they would not have grown demoralized so easily
didn't commies manage to overthrow like a third of all world governments at communism's peak

>>43975809
obviously not, I mean Greek/Roman style gay relationships were common throughout the entire history of Japan. All opposition to LGBT shit in Japan was during their westernization period, but once they got nuked and the empire ended it was accepted again.
I mean frankly, anyone who thinks that Japan is this cultural monolith is a fucking retard and shouldn't be taken seriously. They're just like any other culture, where the young people are more liberal and the old people are more conservative. The reason they've had a center-right government for the entirety of their existence as a democracy is because their electoral system is like the US but on steroids. For example, the ruling party got 1/3 of the vote last election but a majority of the seats.

>>43976278
You imply that I believed Japan's typical values were monolithic and that LGBT faggotry is the same as historical pederasty. You're both disingenuous and arguing with somebody that's not me.

>>43961641
It means that she's an actual strong, independent woman who wants to succeed because she built herself up, not because she tore down everyone else around her.

>>43976278
The reason is actually because young japa don't give a flying shit about politics. I wish the West stopped caring as well.

>>43976514
>as a reflection of real Japanese values
You definitely think Japan's values were monolithic.
>and that LGBT faggotry is the same as historical pederasty
Yes, same-sex relationships throughout history are directly linked to LGBT faggotry.
Also, claiming that only westerners are obsessed with traps is just flat out not true. If you don't think some horny Japanese degenerates are just as obsessed with newhalfs and traps as their western counterparts then you really have no idea what you're talking about. Have you ever been to Japan? You can find just as many gay bars and clubs in Tokyo as you can in San Francisco or any other gay western capital.
>>43976552
>because young japa don't give a flying shit about politics
it's more that they realize their vote doesn't matter, so they don't vote. It's just like how their voter turnout is so similar to the voter turnout in the US.

>>43976961
It's precisely because I know how much some Japanese are obsessed with traps that I know that it's not something serious. Unless you want to also claim futanari doujin are stunning and brave progressive works, too. It's a pornsick fetish and a joke, you retard. Draw a character with the bone structure and frame of a woman and then put a dick where the vagina should be. Wow, this manga gag being a popular tag must surely mean there's a significant number of JP men and women that are sexually progressive in the American sense.

>>43976961
Gay people exist =/= woke LGBT ideology being pushed in your face constantly

>>43960575
Thanks HoloEN for your influence on JP

you do fags realize that YT allows you to hide you gender and its the reason why it logs as other

>>43977227
You keep saying it's a "gag" when it's more of something masturbate to because they're horny. Same with newhalfs. You know, kind of like LGBT people existing lol.
>this manga gag being a popular tag must surely mean there's a significant number of JP men and women that are sexually progressive in the American sense
at no point did I say "a significant number of JP men and women that are sexually progressive in the American sense" (even though over 2/3s of Japanese people believe that LGBT people should be accepted by society). The fact that you are accusing me of saying that shows how fucking warped your brain is: Japanese people generally accept LGBT people, and they take traps as "seriously" (whatever the fuck that means) as westerners.
>>43977411
Some people on this website call for the death of every LGBT person, I don't think you really care about the difference between gay people existing and woke LGBT ideology

>>43960575
Holy shit, Pekora has a whole 5% of females watching her? How?

>>43960630
Her concert. It’s true, more cheers from queers than females actually.

>>43960994
>I guess they they exist and don't care
That's a mindset that a lot of Asian and East Asian countries have, they are either too poor or too busy to care.

>>43961396
It's the TQ and all the other random shit they tacked on over the last decade that I have issues with.

>>43960575
Pekora could probably execute someone on stream and still wouldnt get canceled

>>43963585
Die

>>43961814
pic rel

>>43977831
>Some people here feel this way
>I know that YOU must also feel this way

Take your goddamn meds loony troon

Gotta support the cause peko

>>43979489
Google tells me this is quite literally an unironic reddit meme.

>>43979767
Google tells me that this is quite literally not an argument against it

>>43979489
I wish american politics were actually like this.
Its more like "all gas no brakes corporatism" vs "we pretend we are good but we only destroy society corporatism".

>>43979767
it might as well be from /pol/, at this point theres no difference

>>43979489
Get everyone to start disavowing communists like the others and these memes would be applicable.

>>43960672
Fuck you, these people given an inch, take a mile, bitch that they didn't get 2, start asking for 3 and plot to take 4.

Pekora bought a pet femboy

>>43980096
That was Beatani

>>43961697
They're basically still in 90s America in that regard

>>43969998
lgbt are social outcasts

>>43961936

Why do
>we
talk about trannies every day now?

>>43980576
It's the most efficient bait

>>43980576
Because their community is busy bullying streamers (Vtubers very much included) into submission, soliciting demonstrations of fealty, and as a flex of power and until this stops it's relevant and worth talking about here.

>>43980006
To be fair the democrats made a big show of collectively "dennouncing socialism" recently.
There has been a huge rise of anti-commie sentiment in the left after the Ukraine invasion.

Reminder that Japan, like the UK/EU(and now Ukraine), is a vassal state of the Global American Empire. And thus is being subjected to the agenda on a daily basis. I'd guess the next gen behind the current one reaching adulthood will likely have a similar sharp uptake in LGBT adoption as western millennials/zoomers.

>>43960575
>twitter dude just says he's happy that during her concert so many people cheer when she asks for "those who are neither" even if he knows full well it's mostly people fucking around
>this results in a /pol/ infested thread
cool I guess.

>>43969756
No, there's absolutely 3D otokonoko. I've run into them on twitter, fantia, and fc2. The difference is they aren't annoying about representation and demanding you refer to them as a female.

>>43962042
>literal fan game

>>43969756
>>43983425
Japan has been on globohomo's radar for a while now and recently (((they))) have been bombarding the Japanese with propaganda.
Brainwashing and conditioning is at full throttle both in mass-media and on the streets.
I wonder if it's funded with their taxes too

>>43969202
What's wrong with a woman not wanting men in women spaces?

>>43984660
I'd make a good bet everyone in that video is still a lolicon

>>43984660
Half of them are whites on vacation/expats there with the Express intention of influencing Japanese corporations with their ideology.

...at 0:35 I really hope that's not who I think it is.

>>43984660
>spiderman

>>43963952
>>43960575
>>43974632
That's from her youtube analytics, you retard faggot. She's literally just reading what youtube gave her. She never included "other", youtube did.
https://files.catbox.moe/mefh7b.webm

>>43984660
was that a fucking black on the truck?

>>43985662
who?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnY2yrgZiao

"Ladies, gentlemen, and others" is a boomer tier joke you brainrotted fucks, roughly comparable to a teacher calling attendance and when she gets to your name you respond "Not here." Refusing the premise of the question is itself a joke.

>>43960575
Yes anon, when you didn't tick any checkboxes, the system will record you as others or genderless

>>43960575
She is not wrong, slugs are genderless

>>43960575
we lost...

>>43961641
Correct. It’s an ode to her own stubbornness which led her to the place she is now.

>>43961396
>LGBTQ
>Q
I love that they decided to call themselves a word which dictionary meaning is straight up "Weird and abnormal"

>>43962303
Kek. Based

>>43964471
No cap. Lesbians have and gatekeep their own hobbies.
All the insane gays went troon so the remaining keep it indoors same for bi. It's the trancels that ruin everything and LGBs hate them.

>>43961566
She's not saving herself, she's saving all the people that listen to the song

If she were saving herself, the analogy wouldn't work because the prince doesn't save himself, he saves cinderella, who she doesn't want to be

She's saying that she wants to stop feeling sorry for herself and instead go and make a difference by helping people who were feeling just like her

I am posting directly below someone ate the fuck up with schizophrenic delusions

>>43984873
Your logic breaks down when you look at it the other way around

Should a trans man (that's someone who was born a woman) that's had drugs and shit to look like a big hairy buff dude use women's toilets and locker rooms, too? I'm sure he'd get slapped in the face immediately if he tried

>>43997602
Your logic breaks down when faced with the reality that the mentally ill should all be removed from general society

>>43997602
There's already a solution for that.

>>43997602
No it doesn't. If you look indistinguishable from a man, or if you have a penis, people are going to think you're a creep for using the women's bathroom. There's no gotcha there.

Also atleast try to keep it somewhat on the original topic before you get your comments deleted and run off to your tranny discord to whine about 4chud nazi suppression.

>>43961111
well that's the funny thing isn't it?
that retard who is talking about "representation" in her concert is going to shit on her when she starts playing Hogwarts on stream as she wanted to for a while.
And neither she nor her fanbase will give a shit about the seething.

>>43960994
>So they’re all in a relative middle ground of "I guess they exists" and they don’t care.
this is what every vtuber (and every sane person) should do

>>43997940
I guess the government should start buying data from google to see who spends all their time on 4chan then

>>43997948
there's a mental illness that makes people want to kill themselves
>really? what can we do about it?
well a lot of the effects are alleviated if they pretend they are the other gender and people treat them that way
>fuck that, lets go out of our way to specifically make them want to kill themselves more

>>43998210
Did I ever say trans women who still look like men should go in women's bathrooms? no, stop assuming I'm one of those twitter retards

people should use the space that they pass as

That means if a trans woman still looks like a man, they should use men's spaces. If they look like a woman, they should use woman spaces. If a trans man still looks like a woman, they should use women's spaces. If they look like a man, they should use man's spaces.

If people can't even identify them as their preferred gender in a normal interaction, they shouldn't start screeching and getting triggered over things like bathrooms and changing rooms

>>43960994
Japan is a vassal state with no active military thanks to surrender conditions, 260% debt to GDP, 11 trillion dollars of US debt, and a constitution written by a jewish woman.

They don't get to decide anything. These niggercattle are so compliant and conformist that they will go along with literally anything. Don't forget that Japanese americans are close to 100% Democrats and extremely eager to engage in "culture war" against whites, religious christians, pro-lifers, and anything that's deemed anathema for the jewish handlers that puppeteer them.


You are delusional.

>>43960994
noooo noooo!!! YOURE SUPPOSED TO PICK A SIDE NOOOOOOOOOOO

>>43998972
You know, your group would have so much more goodwill if they would argue from the honest position of "Yes it's a mental illness, but please be polite about it" because that's what it always boils down to if you can get a prog to engage honestly for long enough.

You'll be much better off by convincing your own side to start telling the truth instead of manipulating language, controlling speech, and criminalizing wrongthink because it's doing those things that make people hate you, not anything else. You will never, ever get the millions of truth fixated autists out there to accept that 2+2=5, but they'd be willing to play nice if you people weren't such shitty, entitled, obnoxious little totalitarians in makeup.

>>44000313
It's precisely because they're like that that I don't see myself as part of their group.

They spend so much time virtue signalling and attacking people that disagree with them that they got lost in the weeds and didn't realise they stopped being coherent a long time ago

>>44001089
Well, that's good. Sensible trannies are so vanishingly rare that you could probably make decent money just by acting like a normal human being and grifting off of rightoids by saying sensible shit and dunking on the left. It's not even really grifting as long as you believe the shit you say.
Plus, you'd be doing the world a favor by taking a little bit of power away from progressive psychopaths.

>>43962042
Youre fucking retarded. The "trans" flag is literally just the Akukin Kensetsu logo. And the "LGBT" flag is literally just a rainbow to represent RGB lighting. The gays dont own rainbows.

>>43961842
yagoo is actively trying to engage with american companies and i would not be at all surprised if he started interjecting american identity politics somehow into his company

>>43997602
but most of them don't look like "big hairy buff dudes." most of them look like women with pube beards, what's your point? also, females sexually assault people a metric fuckload less, and the comparison is not a fair one. not sure why i'm even giving you the time of day given that you unironically think that you're some in between thing

>>44002039
Oh thank god. Good to hear that anon is just retarded as usual and Kay Yu remains a supreme ultrachad.

>>44002829
But you agree that the ones that look like big buff hairy dudes should use men's spaces? What about people that look slightly less big, buff, and hairy, but still like a man? And what about slightly less big, buff, and hairy than that? Where do you draw the line?

Idk about you, but I think that the line is drawn when they actually look like a man. If people don't think you're a biological woman when they look at you, you shouldn't use woman's spaces. And vice versa for all other combinations of manly woman, womanly man, men's spaces, women's spaces, etc.

>>44003009
Is Kay Yu mega woke or some shit?

>>44005836
No he's cool I was just relieved to hear he didn't add tranny shit to his game for reddit gold.

>>43960575
They're all Kronii entering the poll multiple times

>>43960994
It's kinda hard to care about issues when you know you have no real ability to change anything in the system.

>>44005101
no, my man
your logic, and the logic of all genderspecials, is regressive nonsense that would have ultra masculine girls use the men's room and ultrafeminine guys use the women's. it's just the "be tough, like a man, because men are tough and you're not a man if you aren't tough" shit of old, but masquerading as progressive this time. total garbage
you unironically think that because someone is good at cosplaying that he or she should be allowed into spaces for the opposite sex, lol. just because you want to be something, because you feel like you are something, doesn't _make_ you that something, and i believe deep down inside you there's a part that knows that

>>43981217
Didn't help that so many tankies took Russia's side

You guys care more about gender than trannys.

>>43992907
It basically just means gay anyway, but simply calling yourself gay these days isn't a big deal anymore because people don't really care if you're just a gay man these days.

The online trans community is literally the worst people possible to advocate for them as a group because everyone in the online community is a terminally online schizo.

>>44006339
The whole point is that they have a mental illness that can be alleviated if you treat them as their preferred gender and they take steps to look and behave like their preferred gender.

Why deny them that?

It's not like there's actually a problem with rape or sexual assault going on in women's spaces. If that were the concern then:
1: gay people should get their own spaces
2: the social boundaries I'm advocating against wouldn't stop the people doing it, anyway

The reason trans women who still look like men shouldn't be allowed in women's spaces is because it makes women uncomfortable, and vice versa for all the other combinations. That problem doesn't exist if the trans woman looks like a woman and the problem is created if you force trans men that look like men into women's spaces.

>>44006389
It makes complete sense for tankies to side against NATO; the idiots were the libshits who expected otherwise just because Putin is homophobic or whatever.

>>44007085
>It alleviates
Cringe harm avoidance centered ideology

"Bro, just accept the pink elephant in the room is real dude, and it NEEDS them to light fires"

>>43960575
escape what? Crossdressing and mixing of gender norms is a common sight in anime and among anime fans. It's fine to call trannies cringe while also acknowledging that anime as a whole is still extraordinarily cringe even in its country of origin.

>>43997602
That is a fair point. Personally I'm under the apparently small opinion group that gendered bathrooms are kind of useless. If a guy wanted to rape girls, hiding out in a women's stall isn't exactly the ideal place, except maybe in third world shitholes but what do I know.

>>44007823
Isn't the goal of a society to make sure as many people in it are living happy lives and as few people in it are suffering?

If you have a group of people in your society who all want to kill themselves and you can stop that at effectively no cost, why wouldn't you?

>>44007085
you're so cracked out on the cult koolaid that you sidestepped almost everything in my post lol
my entire point is that your outlook is centered around an outdated set of ideals where you think "just looking like" or "just acting like" however you consider the opposite sex to be is enough to be considered as the opposite sex. literal wolf in sheep's clothing
>why deny them that?
why do they deserve it? you're asking the entire world to play along with the beliefs of a fringe group of wackjobs. you're asking people to disbelieve their eyes when they see the tiny little woman with a pube beard and a scratchy old lady voice in the men's restroom, or the hulking man at the women's sports competition. you're just crybullies trying to strong arm everyone else into your ideology

>>44009061
>If you have a group of people in your society who all want to kill themselves and you can stop that at effectively no cost, why wouldn't you?
this is textbook crybulling. "do what i want in the way i want, or i'll kill myself." it's incredible to me how you and you ilk are legitimately all the same. it was a mistake giving you the time of day

>>43969375
Enough about the Republican Party though..
>sorry disney, small government coming through to takeover the land you've spent 50 years developing because you thought our retarded first amendment violating culture war was dumb for business

>>43986515
yes, like with the BLM march that took place a few years ago, everyone there is a gaijin or a gainjin's friend. that's pretty much the only way to get sucked into giving a shit about american social issues.

>>44009937
Imagine defending the fucking mouse in any capacity under any circumstance.
You libshits really are the most utterly repugnant of all vermin.

>>44010301
>anyone who disagrees with the GOP must be a liberal

>>43960994
Most mentally sane /vt/ poster

>>43998972
>well a lot of the effects are alleviated if they pretend they are the other gender and people treat them that way

Any proof of this? Tranners seem to suffer when they look in the mirror, because no matter how many people play along, the mirror, the recording, the zoom call imaging, they're always there to remind them. I'm just wondering if this is the answer to their problems. From my limited experience working in a mental hospital, I remember, that schizophrenia patients for example are routinely and strongly reminded that their delusions are not real. This might be completely wrong for trannies, but enabling their delusions doesn't seem to work either unless there is some kind of comprehensive study that can prove it does.

Having to uphold a cognitively dissonant belief is harmful to most people. Being forced to perpetually lie to yourself for fear of nebulous consequences (or even the threat of someone commiting suicide) will eventually erode you. Having people proclaim things that are obviously not true has been a tactic employed by many authoritarian regimes to humiliate and control their population and possible rebellious elements.
At this point I am wondering why I should proclaim things I do not believe? Surely it would be enough if I was just polite enough to not mention a trannoid's unfortunate situation. I'll even be the first to say I'd fuck a cute trap. However to ever insinuate that what I fucked wasn't a man in a skirt, no matter how cute, would be ludicrous.

>>43961396
>LGBT
>Vtubers
You mean VTweeters right?

>>44009937
Fuck off corposhill, the mouse had it coming

>>43960915
Now I can’t unsee it
Fuck you

>>43960575
>tranos - cry on twitter; dont do anything else; also only 0,7% of Americans
>chuddys - actually shoot up schools and kindergartens; 10-30% of Americans

Kind of easy to tell who is more mentally ill and whom we should escape from/put in mental institutions.

>>44013514
>dont do anything else
except grooming children to cut off their genitals

>>43961805
ペコらがお前ら屑共の見方と勘違いしたら、日本語がちゃんと理解出来たら、お前らは死にたくなるほどガッカリすると思うよ。

>>44012038
Do you know what's most effective way to cure real gender dysphoria according to many studies?

>>44013514
>>>>>>>>>tranos - cry on twitter; dont do anything else
willful ignorance or genuine retardation?

>>43960575
その他 doesn't mean genderless
It was always a thing in Japan before Amerimutt woke trash happened. Can't Amerimutt niggers shut the fuck up? They are so fucking dumb as hell they belive every country in the world is the same as Amerinigger shithole.

>>44014594
>focuses on the Google stats that is of course from youtube users that chose not to share their gender
>ignores the Suisei concert or the Kanata clip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-Q9-aGEO7k

>>44014703
The fuck are you even taking about, deranged Amerimutt tranny? No Japanese knows your stupid superficial Amerimutt woke shit.

>>43960575
>and a sizeable proportion of people cheered
the japanese are genetically programmed to clap and cheer at any prompt, no matter the cause

https://files.catbox.moe/mefh7b.webm
https://files.catbox.moe/mefh7b.webm
https://files.catbox.moe/mefh7b.webm

>>43960575
I hate this
Japan doesn't give a fuck about your ass, you put whatever you want in it but if you have a cock you won't enter the little girls bathroom, is that simple
Then those parasites comes in trying to destroy everything

>>43992907
Basically GGGTG

>>43998972
>That means if a trans woman still looks like a man, they should use men's spaces. If they look like a woman, they should use woman spaces. If a trans man still looks like a woman, they should use women's spaces. If they look like a man, they should use man's spaces.
and you ignore people who have these traits but are straight and will abuse the others
you also ignore japan's creeps that their law can't punish
very nice

>>44005836
You can't be an animator on onimai and not be mega based.

>>44015410
>battle rifle
the correct choice.

>>43986515
jamal-sama

>>44013612
HOLY GIGA!

>>43961936

no
even the chatbots know this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=906DFhwD0KI

>>43960630
>No proof
It actually happened, though it was more like 'those who it doesn't matter which', she then followed that up by asking for people who were naked. So yeah, I really wouldn't read too much into that one other than Suityan just being a dickhead because that girl is a massive dickhead.

I'm currently under the idea that only sex exists, and gender doesn't. And there are only male and female sex. To me it seems like gender as described by society is more a series of personality traits/interests and so if someone doesn't see themself as masculine or feminine it makes sense that they would consider themself something else. But I don't think we need to group personality traits/interests like this and I think that people with body dysmorphia have a severe mental disorder. It's one thing to like the color pink, it's another to want to chop your penis off.

>>43960575
literally who cares?

>>44019420
It's a shame they had to start lobotomizing these AIs to keep them on twitch.

>>43961697
Straight men that are intensely interested in the genitals of other men

>>43963585
Because it's become big and that means it's time for the troons to force themselves into the industry to push their agenda further. It always starts with them gushing over how they're being counted as part of the statistic, then they make demands that they need to be represented and catered to more until eventually the form of entertainment is completely pozzed and geared towards a minor fraction of the consumerbase.

>>43963585
They're in anything anime-styled and holo EN open the floodgates from the west.

>>43960575
Peko is my oshi but I totally ignore her when she talks about dumb shit like this. Imagine shilling for Twitch thots, flat-earthers and even the vax, I know this rabbit ain't the smartest.

>>43963585
cuz almost all of them are shut-in NEETs who live on the internet. not only vtubing but also they parasitise every nerd/geek media. you know the amerimutt comic and cartoon industry was totally eaten up by twatter trannies gays and sjws/rainbow haired woketards

You'd be correct. Gender has always been synonymous with sex, you weren't taught any different. Nobody was. Don't let them gaslight you.

>>44013514
>Source: ADL

You couldn't have picked a more biased source, faggot. They are literally one of the main pillars of the identity politics racket.

>>43960575
What are the chances she's referring to intersex people? Like not the mentally ill who cut off their genitals, but those who biologically have sex characteristics of both genders? Then again frankly I doubt she knows or cares enough about that topic.
Frankly I'm also sure the screenshot is either taken out of context or outright edited.

Why does japan love LGBTQIAP+ shit so much?

>>44024408
in japanese "genderless" isnt used even on youtube. its mostly sonota/その他 (etcetera) or just "neither" どちらでもない

as usual EOP niggers are btfo'd by their own rrats. many such cases.

>>44024667
So what the third category is even supposed to be anyway? "Others"? I legitimately don't know.

>>44024732
it's obviously don't want to identify, moron

>>44024732
>So what the third category is even supposed to be anyway?
Genderless. Unironically.

Unlike Western culture of saying I’m no longer a man, I’m a woman. They have a culture of I’m no longer a man, I’m genderless.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genderless_fashion_in_Japan
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%B8%E3%82%A7%E3%83%B3%E3%83%80%E3%83%BC%E3%83%AC%E3%82%B9

>>44024732
yeah its "others" or technically etcetera = その他. it connotes "all the others" not a specific group. "genderless" would be written in kanataka but the word isnt used or imported. it will never be a loan word either. 性別なし is a literal translation but is a very awkward japanese, doent even work in japanese context. it sounds like "you dont have a gender" in japanese.

>>44024732
>>44024928 (me)
I remember a street interview from "that japanese man named yuuta" where he asks people in the street if they know LGBT. Some people unironically don’t know that the G stands for Gay end their first guess was "Genderless?"

>>44024928
this is made up shit by some deranged ideologue. nobody irl uses it. ユニセックス/unisex is the most common word that has a meaning of genderless function in fashion.

>>44025533
>made up
>never used
>random Japanese people on the street know it
https://youtu.be/5Akk9a_HQRE?t=115

You can watch the entire video, it’s quite interesting. They’re both completely foreign to western concept, while being very open to it and largely over estimating the number of them. Half of them thinks that 30% of Japan is LGBT (it is of course not)

>>44025058
https://youtu.be/5Akk9a_HQRE?t=88
Here it is. Completely foreign of the concept of "gay", but yes Genderless makes complete sense.

>>44013969
pray tell

>>44024408
IIRC it turned out they were all troll submissions like "Gender: Nousagi"

>>43999286
Nigga it's not 1970 anymore how retarded do you have to be be to spew such outdated garbage?

>>44025746
You only choose such ultra-biased stuff. Made up article and selected interviews by western centric LGBT ideologues.

I know well about this issue. You dont even know it but first of all the small Japanese "LGBT" movement doesnt have any real LGBT people. Its led by deranged kodomobeya-obasan feminists, most of whom are TERFs on Twatter, so you actually rarely see Japanese trans LGBT activists on Japanese Twitter, and clueless boomer lefty politicians. Why do they do it? Its because not only are they typical virgin roastie losers in their 30s/40s or white knight wannabe creepy ojisans, but also believe it must make them look cool and intelligent to people and they can get attention from younger generations, even though, hilariously, they fucking suck at English.

Which ofc means they only spread JOP's insane "LGBT rrats". Woke is already too insane for normal Japanese, like every woke Hollywood garbage certainly flops in Japan so fucking hard, but they ironically make woke even more arcane and circle-jerky. Nobody wants to listen to them. Do you wanna read "LGBT rrats" full of foreign words with totally broken contexts?. To normal people, they look just like pseudo intellectual weirdos using too many katakana words. Also this has never covered by western media but the most popular Japanese left parties Kyosan and Minsyu lost big in the last election for pushing LGBT garbage. They believed they were popular among young people, pandering to Twatter ideologues, but ofc, there were only phantom "young" voters there.

Japan has their own long history of gender and such stuff. Amerimutts look just like some weird newbies to them like mutt media cant handle gays or trannies at all, whereas Japanese media can very well.

How is this thread still up?

>>44031024
Because it's relevant. You must have missed the last month of twitter trannies harassing Vtubers into demonstrating their ideological allyship.

>>44031245
super fun that normalfags will fight a culture war at the far ends of the known world wow

>>43976278
>Greek/Roman style gay relationships were common throughout the entire history of Japan.
These kind of arguments are usually the best way to out retards like you. Show me a culture where aristocracy or some kind of upper class didn't practice degeneracy?
Conveniently enough, historians say nothing about homosexuality amongs Japanese commoners of that time

>>44031952
>comes to one of the last places on the internet that doesn't censor politically incorrect opinions
>is surprised people want to have discussions about their interests that they are literally not allowed to have anywhere else

Get over it or go to reddit brother. You seem lost.

>>43961697
That's how it was in America like 20 years ago
What the fuck happened

>>44035366
Social networks

>>44026235
hormone therapy+psychotherapy/cbt

>>44013514
Black Democrats are responsible for the majority of violent crime in America retard.

>>44017169
Kys cuck

>>43960575
oi

>>44036872
gangbangers cant actually vote in usa. if you are a criminal you cant vote any longer. so technically they cant be democrats, they cant be anything.
they can in finland, in jails.

>>44035366
>>44035540
internet fame points for playing the outcast/victim

>>43960575
good

>>43960575
What am i looking at?