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What went so wrong?

>> No.43616503
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPBHMgc9wVQ

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>>43616408

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>>43616408
They started to lash out because NijiEn started to decline. Their report from last year had them predicting that their En market revenue was about to triple

>> No.43616732

>>43616613
nijiEN made the new JP waves flop?

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>>43616503
Mmm, yeah. I think we need to ACCELERATE.

>> No.43616867

>>43616708
classy stream title from mysta

>> No.43616918

>>43616708
Mysterio...

>> No.43617106

>>43616408
I just hope the JP members I like to watch aren't affected by the impending collapse of EN in any way.

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>>43616708
>Their report from last year had them predicting that their En market revenue was about to triple
LMAO i wonder how many angry shareholders fell for that scam

>> No.43617203

Not understanding gender differences is baked into the core of their company. Treating men and women vtubers/fans the exact same, even though they literally aren't

>> No.43618170

>>43616503
I didn't even know they had new livers. Still thought Salome was their last new female member.

>> No.43618693

nothing, they're the best corpo out there

>> No.43618744

>>43616408
Yet to see something go right with them honestly

>> No.43619269

>>43616408
Anglosphere has low 民度, they should've screened and trained their hirings as seriously as some kind of top secret agency.

>> No.43619621

>>43616503
Most of these girls are doing better than Kotoka or Meloco. For some reason, EN viewers like to sub to people they don’t actually watch.

>> No.43619782

>>43616503
one of them streams blockgame for hours to no end with 4k+ viewers. Not that bad.

>> No.43619890

>>43616503
maybe this is the wake up call to stop debut rapidly treating their talents like some new menu on mcdonalds

>> No.43620238

>>43619890
Sure, buddy. They're doing so bad that right now Toru has more viewers than Ars and Hayama

>> No.43620326

>>43619890
>rapidly
You men EN? Because the jp flow is very slow.

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>>43619782
All me baby!

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>>43616408
I don't know, i just watch Selen

>> No.43620505

>>43620326
JP debuted 7 people last month

>> No.43620682

>>43620505
Yes after more than 6 months from the last wave. EN debuts a new wave every 2 months

>> No.43620700

>>43620505
yeah so what? and how many debuted 2022?

>> No.43620809

>>43616708
Why are you still spreading that false info? The first threads had people misunderstanding how Japan treats fiscal years, but it got cleared up pretty quickly. Those weren't predictions, they were the numbers after the NijiEN chink boom and you can see them declining in the latest one from December.

>> No.43620874

>>43616708
Mysterio always has the best stream titles

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>>43620682
>EN debuts a new wave every 2 months
???

>> No.43622927

>>43616708
Crazy how popular Kobo is

>> No.43626350

>>43616408
nothing

>> No.43626413

>>43616408
>What went so wrong?
when they bent the knee to the kuzuha clique thats where it all started

>> No.43626590

2020fag opinions do not matter.

>> No.43630758

>>43616408
hmmmmm

>> No.43634102

why nijisanji always living rentfree in holobroneis head?

>> No.43634311

>>43620809
underage SEA shitposters doesn't really understand finance, please understand

>> No.43634386

>>43622927
Gura form da Indo and SEA don't give a shit about GFE (expect as a weapon to shitpost against ENs) so she can get away with doing male collabs here and there

>> No.43634425

Niji can’t go a single day without multiple yabs, it’s actual comedy to see them self destruct like this

>> No.43634488

>>43616708
Explains them shutting down drama channels. its pure desperation.

>> No.43635641

>>43626590
They don't really have opinions to begin with, to be fair

>> No.43635723

>>43616408
Started out with a bunch of otaku creators doing streams for otaku degenerates.

But along the way started getting popular with normies and the company hired accordingly, filling the place with normalfags.

The sheer number of livers and better coordination between livers & staff make NijiJP kinda work out despite the formula having everything going against it. NijiID, and NijiKR never recovered from the first obstacles that presented themselves and both ended up merged to cut losses. NijiIN was such an spectacular blunder it was straight up deleted. NijiCN (the actual CN branch, not post-luxiem EN) was seized by bilibili zhangs ... and you all already know the rollercoaster that has been NijiEN.

I'm not hopeful in the silghtest that the situation is gonna get better for the foregin branches. Even the most diehard nijifans aren't gonna stay if their oshis go the way of Mayuyu and decide to search for greener pastures.

>> No.43635725

Can't speak for JP but in EN they really phoned in the last two waves. It's like they didn't bother to check their backgrounds/content at all. The xsoliel girls are jp but grifting in EN because they were too lazy to go through JP's academy system first. They probably knew they wouldn't be able to pull any numbers that way. The bar for EN qualifications are in the fucking gutter at this point so it was an easy in for them.

>> No.43635747

>>43616503
I tuned into Sophia. She seems sweet. Knows a little Eigo too. Toru is almost always streaming and seems laid back. I don't know about the others.

>> No.43635982

>>43635725
One of them literally admitted they applied to EN because joining JP requires you to go through their vtuber academy grift.

>> No.43636166

>>43635982
Yeah lol. Very professional too obviously. They were previously two views for a reason.

>> No.43636601

>>43635723
Imagine larping as an oldfag but in fact know nothing about the subject he was talking about.
>Started out with a bunch of otaku creators doing streams for otaku degenerates.
Mito didn't even start as an anime otaku, she talked about the border internet culture in Japan and never referred to herself as an Otaku, more like a nerd. She was a fucking normalfag, to begin with.
>NijiKR never recovered from the first obstacles that presented themselves and both ended up merged to cut losses
KRs are now doing better than ever after the merge, mind you.
>NijiCN (the actual CN branch, not post-luxiem EN) was seized by bilibili zhangs
They fucking started as a co-funded project >between Bilibili and Anycolor, retarded.
go the way of Mayuyu and decide to search for greener pastures
While in reality, Yamien literally said he wouldn't consider becoming a Vtuber ever. Mayuzumi's story ended, so he decided to leave.
>inb4 meh hating the company
He never said anything like that, and on the contrary, he thanked them. And in what world will someone who is hating their company leave almost all of their content for the company to earn Ad revenue for free in foreseeable future?

>> No.43636670

>>43635982
I don't think you understand what the word "grift" means anon.

>> No.43637671

>>43622927
Blue cunny is power.

>> No.43637786

>>43616708
INDOCHADS WE CANNOT STOP WINNING

>> No.43638122

>>43616867
His pure, unbridled ADHD is his charm factor.

>> No.43643177

>>43616408
Everything

>> No.43646589

>>43636670
I'm not a lolbertarian, but pointless occupational licensing can easily be a gift. Especially if you make money off getting people certified.

>> No.43646732

>>43616408
'kay

>> No.43646910

>>43635723
>NijiIN
I also mourn Nijisanji Nigeria

>> No.43649685

Actual black company lmao

>> No.43649751

Nijiniggers high on copium right now. Imagine doing copyright striking a channel. Bootlickers will defend this

>> No.43649911

NijisanjiEN was a mistake

>> No.43649980

>>43635982
kek which one was it?

>> No.43650231

>>43646589
HAHAHAHAHA. I’D FUCKING KEK IF THEY ASK MONEY FROM VTA APPLICANTS

>> No.43652165

>>43616408
It all started when Iwanaga Taiki left the company.

>> No.43652370

>>43652165
>worshiping Iwanaga
How about you support his now literally dying Vtuber agency first?

>> No.43654846

>>43652370
He probably doesn't even know Iwanaga and just parroting whatever shit nijiantis discord made up.

>> No.43657489

>>43617118
Literally no one, that's why the stock is tanking. There's no one buying and all the shareholders, including the chinks and riku are burning through all of their existing shares trying to line their pockets with money before the stock becomes worthless.

>> No.43658342

>>43657489
There's gotta be at least a few people that bought it at 8000-12000 yen, since it went higher than that.

>> No.43658502

>>43658342
That's secondary market 101. You're basically taking money from those who get in the market at the wrong time.

>> No.43663696

>>43616408
nothing

>> No.43663812

>>43616408
Vshitshow tranny deflection thread.

>> No.43663934

>>43617118
>>43634488
retards, thats not how revenue works

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>>43616408

>> No.43669699

>>43616408
not enough

>> No.43670491

>>43666096
did this fag ever start streaming again or is he still in hiding from his fans?

>> No.43670530

>>43670491
he's returning in just over a week. expect a 50k+ or even a 100k+ stream.

>> No.43671756

>>43670530
do nijiniggers really?

>> No.43671851

Honestly what's really baffling to me is how they debuted Salome alone, which was a huge success and became the biggest and fastest growing nijisanji liver ever, and then just disregard her success, take no lessons from it and go back to the standard deluge of waves and quantity over quality.

>> No.43671902

>>43671851
they probably noticed that salome lost 92% of her viewers over the course of around 2 months

>> No.43672007

>>43670530
Imagine being this delusional

>> No.43672242

>>43671902
Salome made me unironically believe in the botting accusations. It's not even because of the 100+k she got for no reason. It's how hard she fell off in a matter of WEEKS.
Yes people fall off, yes fads end, but not that fucking fast. 90% of your fanbase doesn't just spontaneously poof out of existence because "oh uhh people got bored i guess uhh".

Compare it to Kobo for instance, she blew up among normalfags like basically the Gura of ID, and then she straight up sabotaged herself with game choices and stream timings, and even then it took her over 6 months before she started appreciably reclining

>> No.43672320

>>43671851
Reminded me of the fast growth to 1 million caused many to believe she was going to surpass Gura. Not just a few. They were already celebrating. Oblivious to the curse.

But their quantity over quality is profitable to the company as a whole. Just sucks for the individual talents. Turning them into the wage slaves that Nijifans believe they should be. "Stream more!", they scream.

>> No.43672613

>>43671851
She just got a yogurt ad deal that will be aired on every major Japanese TV channel for MONTHS to come, and yet retarded here will say she fell off because meh CCV
>>43672242
>but not that fucking fast
Retards talks like she got 100K in one stream and got 10K the next. The cover she put out 4 months into her existence is now 900K. She averaged around 700K in June, 400K in July, and only got to her now around 100K in October.
>even then it took her over 6 months before she started appreciably reclining
lol, Kobo's ccv was never that impressive to begin with.
>meh bot
Try report them to YT then? You won't because you know it was fucking legit.

>> No.43672715

>>43672613
>Retards talks like she got 100K in one stream and got 10K the next
because that is pretty much what happened, she went from getting 90-100k consistently for two weeks to immediately crashing below 30k

>> No.43672780

>>43672715
https://vrabi.net/channel/UCgIfLpQvelloDi8I0Ycbwpg
Is it that hard for you to even check the actual number instead pulling shit from your ass?

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>>43672780
what does this prove anon?

>> No.43672860

>>43672816
>11k event karaoke
oof

>> No.43672891

>>43672780
bruh you kinda proves his point
just look between june-july

>> No.43672909

>>43672242
>botting.
Oh yes, botting also know how to draw and post her fanart in pixiv, make several well known doujin artist to draw her, and can conjure thousands fans on Niji event. Or perhaps Riku paid them all?

>> No.43672937

>>43672816
>she went from getting 90-100k consistently for two weeks to immediately crashing below 30k
Are you by any chance, actually retarded?
You fucking claim she got 100K and instantly crashed to 300K, yet you pick numbers from her recent stream?
>>43672891
>Got her karaoke in 100K in July
Yeah, so true.

>> No.43672946

>>43616408
I don't think Niji will be bankrupt soon but will eventually lose dominance of the Vtuber industry

>> No.43672979

>>43672937
you were the one who posted that link saying it proved stuff, bro

>> No.43673015

>>43672946
Hololive has the dominance.

>> No.43673069

>>43672946
2019 called they want their status quo back

>> No.43673160

>>43672242
Yeah, it was incredibly suspicious that she held onto the same CCV as her debut for about 2 weeks just playing RE.
No vtuber ever has managed to have a similar CCV to their debut on their very next stream let alone for 2 weeks.
People were trying to look into where these viewers were coming from and nobody was able to largely tell since chat overlap with other vtubers was very low.

>> No.43673188

>>43672979
>saying her number changed instantly
>post the link showed that she got around 58K for her rhythm heaven stream, 51K for her Idol master promotion, and 100K for her Karaoke in July.
>Y-you prove my point that she instantly falls off
Seriously, are you genuinely retarded?

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>>43673188
How does this prove anything?

>> No.43673223

>>43672242
Salome got huge numbers because she broke the normal vtuber sphere with her antics and got some normies to check out le wacky esophagogastroduodenoscopy streamer they saw trending about

>> No.43673232

>>43673205
remember when salome getting sub-30k was unspeakable? let alone sub-10k multiple times in one month.

>> No.43673362

Wasn't Salmoe a giant ass meme for a while?

>> No.43673473

>>43673205
>i-in a matter of WEEKS
Should I remind you this has been her ninth month into existence?
Also, she just got an ad that collabed with Yuki Uchida, so keep seething, you numbermonkeys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPZ8tvRocqA

>> No.43673681

>>43673473
she did go from 100k streams to 30k streams within two week nijibro, stop coping

>> No.43675801

>>43616408
Mandated Twitter interactions attracted the worst kid of people.

>> No.43680033

>>43672242
I believe it

>> No.43680525

started pandering to retards (americans)

>> No.43680619

>>43680525
nijisanji panders to china and mud hut land. they have practically no presence in the west.

>> No.43683905

>>43616408
A lot of things.

>> No.43683955

>>43616613
Sad but true

>> No.43687320

>>43616503
>2 genshin
This game killed Alice's career and I hate it

>> No.43687553

Do newfags even remember the Nipplesanji incident?

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