/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Vtubers changed my relationship with the phrase YWNBF

>>4355949
I honestly wonder how many of them are actual trannies.

>>4355999
Voice is a dead giveaway, so always suspect the mute ones, or the voice changers.

Therein lies the gender paradox.
Women, no matter their faults or the amount and severity of such faults, will always have inherent value; vtubers provide an example of this, giving an avenue for even "non-attractive" or "unskilled" women to make a comfortable living, and possibly a life of luxury.
Men, however, do not have such a lower limit in terms of value. Any value must be earned; those not up to the standard are regarded as truly worthless, and society benefits from these men being removed from society. We see this in weaker males of the lion pack being ousted from the group and wandering alone until they die from the elements, and so do we see this among the weaker males of human society.

You will never be a woman; you will always be a failed man, a disposable man, inherently providing zero value to the world aside from the labour you can provide to better the lives of the valuable, or the blood you can spill to protect the lives of the valuable.
You say unfortunate, but it is your obligation, nay, your destined role in society to provide the labour and money to the vtubers. That is the only way in which you can justify your existence in this society.
It is not your place to demand your self-preservation through saving money for yourself, or to demand respect and treated as a human from them or others, if you have not made any accomplishments to justify it. Nobody is obligated to give you such respect unless you can prove as such.

In any case, it's the time of the day to take my meds.

>>4354912
1. Just don't buy an expensive model until you're already doing well.
2. You wouldn't make that much even if you were a woman.

>>4354912
>phantom
Fucking SEAnigs, not even once

>>4358797
Every female Vtuber makes decent money as long as they are consistent and keep at it. The only way they dont is if they are mute Vtubers (obvious males) or they are brand new and havent been around long or they dont stream alot.

>>4354912
You don't make money out of most money retardchama, streaming and vtubing should something you only do if you find it fun and never for money

>>4354912
It’s your fault for thinking you could break into this industry on your own. Same goes for people who think they can “make it” in the music industry, or acting, etc. on their own. If you don’t have the connections or the corporation to connect you to an audience your chances of making it are 0

>>4359534
>streaming for fun infront of ur 0-5 viewer audience

KEK whats the point.

>>4359366
lmao they really do not. The only reason you think they do is because you haven't heard of the obscure older indies, on account of them being, you know, obscure.

>>4359609
ngmi

>>4358637
Go out and get to work, you can't call yourself a man if you don't toil at least 12 hours a day

>>4358637
>>>/r9k/

>>4359635
ive seen streamers that stream "for fun" for many years and they average 5-10 viewers at most on GOOD days. Most of the time they are talking to no one, or even bots. Its kinda sad if you ask me. But sure if ur having fun with that even tho you see zero progress in a increase in viewership over the YEARS you have been streaming then you do you.

Personally, even if you dont stream for money, i think the main point of streaming should atleast grow a audience.

>>4359759
Refute one sentence of that post

before you blame outside factors you should also consider the fact that you're unlikable, not charismatic, unfunny, etc.
(or else you wouldn't make this cope thread)

>>4359836
A male has to be 100x more funny than a female who is timid and cringe and is just on screen for 1 hour a day in a bunny avatar and still would get less viewers.

Prove me wrong. I know you cant.

>>4359809
Yes you should try to grown an audience, but getting into this hobby with the intention of making money is probably the worst idea you can have.

>>4360021
The end goal is always to make money, if you are not making money after streaming for years then saying "im only doing it for fun" is copium.

>>4360083
Most hobbies don't bring you money, anon.

>>4359816
Stop being a mental midget who sees men and women as a red vs blue thing. You’re rehashing sexually frustrated omega male talking points from 2016 like it’s some major revelation. Whinging and complaining on this time sink of a website instead of focusing all of your time and energy into bettering yourself is the reason why you will never make it

>>4360109
>>4360109

All hobbies bring you money if you are good at the hobby anon. This is because when you are good at the hobby, other people who are also interested in the hobby will want to chill and watch you do the hobby too. and the more people that watch you do said hobby, the more money you will naturally make.

>>4360113
Which sentence was that?

>>4359366
There are fucking thousands of vtubers with barely any viewers that stream almost every day for hours at a time. You have no idea how inundated the business is.

>>4354912
Time to use a voice changer bro

>>4360244
>thousands of vtubers

Stop being retarded

>>4359836
victim blaming at its finest

>>4359609
>becoming better at entertaining/talking to others
>having some sort of company while you game

>>4360244
>inundated
People on this board have no clue how big and top heavy the scene is.

>>4360289
https://vnuma.net/search/streamer/

>>4360289
its not a joke, look on twitch at the vtuber tag. there are literally thousands not including the ones who already gave up.

>>4360336
>>4360336

>becoming better
>having company
>5+ years of doing this
>your audience still hasnt grown beyond 10

??? At that point you need to "stop having fun" and just think about seriously improving to make money.

>>4360388
>https://vnuma.net/search/streamer/

What the fuck is this chink shit?

>>4360409
The ones that have no viewers are new, using voice changes, or are mutes.

>>4359609
Sakura Miko and Hochimachi Suisei both had to.

>>4359609
Remember: all your oshis were that at one point. Many were nobodies for years.

>>4354912
With 30k you can start your own vtuber agency. You can start with something small like VOMS. You'll get to be in on the fun and make a living.

I got an idea on how males can Benefit from Vtubing.

All they have to do is create a stream, create a OC Vtuber avatar (all rights belong to them), and hire a VA for the vtuber avatar. Open up youtuber and have the VA with the Vtuber avatar react to youtube vids along with you. Easy money. Of course you need to pay the VA, but if she is a good VA she will generate viewers and donations for you. So the key here is a good VA.

>>4360600
Like i said, if you do it long enough females will naturally gain the simps necessary for growth. impossible for male Vtubers tho. infact, they just flat out dont exist. Thats the point of this thread retard.

>>4360290
You're not a victim if you're also the perpetrator, anon.

>>4360658
What do you mean by "don't exist". Are you implying there aren't popular male vtubers or what?

>>4358637
>Men, however, do not have such a lower limit in terms of value.
Men makeup the majority of Vtuber agency CEOs. Hire your own batch of women to RP your OCs.

>>4360703

as in the Ratio of male to female Vtubers is like 1 male for every 1000000000000000 females.

>>4360113
The person who replied to you is not me, by the way.
I wrote that during my work hours; I'm doing fine for myself. But it's something I've noticed over the years that I can't really find a good rebuttal for.

>>4360750
Cringe. they are capatlist retard, as in they are hiring FEMALES to do the work for them. its the smart thing to do. But you need capital to do that. Females can just be independent and work on their own, they dont need to make a entire agency for it retard.

>>4354912
Its only ENVtubers that has the male problem

>>4360603
So, be a v-pimp?

>>4360750
You are thinking like a successful person, with that alone you are already orders of magnitude above the person you are replying to.

>>4360863
Thats because over in asia Everyone is gay and has a hard on for Hot bois, especially Korean boy bands.

>>4360815
Reading comprehension, you low IQ knuckle-dragging nigger

>>4360916
>>4360916

>pimping out vitual women is the answer

You still need money to do that. alot of money. Women get the money for free.

>>4360958
But you said "hire your own batch of women" "create your own agency" do you know how much that cost you fucking sperge?

>>4360930
What about EN nonvtubers? You can't tell me everyone's gay for an ugly mofo like tyler1 in the west

>>4360750
how is that related to men having no inherent value?

>>4361108
Tyler1 is not a Vtuber? Infact he would prob stop streaming before he even considered becoming one. Tyler is a entertainer and is watched for his toxic raging. Completely different and on the opposite spectrum from the weebness of Vtubing.

>>4360485
>chink
Retard

>>4354912
True. Should do onlyfans earning more than vwhores!
https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/nlx0b8/alinity_made_more_money_on_of_in_2_months_than/

>>4360750
with what money is he going to fucking hire the girls if hes wortless you retard

>>4360750
That doesn't refute my point at all. Of course successful men exist, due to their intellect, wealth, luck, or all three.
Yagoo blew up only because they invested in a venture nobody expected would be this successful, i.e. luck. Before then, I doubt they were treated much better than your average basement otaku during that time.
Just like how poorer people are more likely to put their money in crypto or the lottery for the "big win", people like Yagoo are more willing to take those risks because they have little to lose in the first place.

>>4361199
So people don't watch vtubers for entertainment or toxic raging?

>>4361337
No retard, they watch them because of their dicks and you know it. dont act as if they dont. I see the cringe comments in gawr gura's stream. YOU CAN NOT convince me that its anything other than that.

>>4361396
I for one don't watch Gura for the UUUUUUUUUOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>4359366
Ame herself was streaming for years barely scraping by, being so committed to streaming/Vtubing that she had to stream from internet cafes because she could no longer afford a personal internet connection. While women may or may not have an edge when it comes to Vtubing, being a female or even talented doesn't necessarily mean you'll be a successful streamer in general, Vtuber or not.

its funny because gaw gura is very obviously role playing as a loli/child and 99% of her stream sexualizes the fuck out of her.

>>4361439
How many viewers does she have now and how long as she been streaming?

exactly, fuck off already with this retard argument.

>>4354912
Kill yourself you faggot

If you arent a girl you shouldnt even be considering vtubing unless youre a low testosterone tranny yikes

>>4361557
Saying that every single female Vtuber will hit their final Hail Mary every single time is incredibly stupid. It's entirely possible and probable that there are some 5 viewer indies out there that are more entertaining than any corporate or well known independent Vtubers that will never have a big break because who the fuck in their right minds are willing to wade through a sea of shitty Vtubers and invest enough time to actually make that call? It sure as hell won't be me.

>>4361814
Name 5 female Vtubers that has been A Vtuber for over 5 years and are still getting piss poor viewers

ill wait

>>4354912
>Tourist trying to tribalfagging with /pol/ attitude
>Gets BTFO on the get go >>4358797

kek

I personally enjoy seeing w*men like Rushia just exist and live life on ez mode.

>>4362113
This is such a blatant and obvious samefag it hurts.

>>4361439
>women may or may not have an edge when it comes to Vtubing
>may or may not
Homostars vs Hololive...

>>4362506
Kuzuha...

>>4362320
go be a retard somewhere else

>>4362554
>one person being compared to a branch
And most of the top Niji streamers are women too. You clearly have a vagina or feminine penis to try and contradict me.

>>4361269
Well male small business owners exist, so however they got their start but with a vtubing agency instead of a restaurant or whatever.

>>4362004
>4362004


still waiting anon...

>>4354912
Why meido hasn’t deleted this blatantly off topic /r9k/ circle jerk thread yet?

>>4359809
How do you fail that bad

>>4363225
Not him but: https://www.twitch.tv/cesela

>>4362320
LITERALLY all me
that said, >>4358797 was my only actual post in this thread, and I stand by it

>>4354912
But that's wrong retard, look at the top streamers in any platform, all males.
It's true girls have an easier time starting out but men have wider appeal outside of simps.

>>4372268
The gender gap for streaming in general is so huge you don't even need to sort by gender. I wouldn't be surprised if as streaming gains more prominence some idiots will start initiatives to 'promote female equality in streaming' and piss people like OP off even more.

>>4360290
>victim

>>4360863
Nijisanji is the only agency in Japan with successful male vtubers.

>>4354912
you retard litteraly know nothing about vtubers. i saw several indies who had 50 views on their 9 hour streams tops who were active since two years ago.

>>4360289
Says the retard. Here I will disprove both you and the OP with this link showing you that there exist over 10,000 vtubers in Japan, and how being a woman doesn't guarantee you success.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsAu_7mlG_fJVShA0YJ_V_w/playlists?view=50&sort=dd&shelf_id=4

>>4373038
Looking at that and

https://www.twitch.tv/directory/all/tags/52d7e4cc-633d-46f5-818c-bb59102d9549?sort=VIEWER_COUNT_ASC

Highly depressing. Worst thing is you don't even want to click on any of the 2views because you know they'll notice you and then you're obligated to stay.

>>4362004
>over 5 years
This is like those programming job ads that ask for 7 years in a technology that has been released for 2 years

>>4372834
You say that like there are more than two successful vtuber agencies in japan

>>4360600
can someone edit this image to the noose one?

i just need a little push to make things right forever

why are there no old dude vtubers rping as grumpy dwarven blacksmiths?

>>4373452
Don't do it anon

>>4372268
>>4372729
This is mostly because of the roots streaming came from. Back in the day "girl gamer" WAS NOT A THING. it just wasnt, period. no if's, and's, or buts about it. Drooling Zoomers that still have pacifiers in their mouths wont know this tho. it was practically impossible to get a girl to even touch a video game, let alone play it. "girl gamer" is a new recent fad that started with twitch after virgins took notice to how "hot" it was. but even now you can see clear evidence that women are are just taking advantage of that girl gamer tag.

dont believe me? go to girl streams like pokimane and see how often they are in just chatting section watching youtube videos rather than playing a actual video game.

So that is why there is a gap. Its because women did not take any kind of noticed to video games or streaming until AFTER twitch became popular.

>>4373038
>>4373224

>all japanese in the youtube section
no shit?

>clicked on a few channels in the twitch section
>mutes
>males
>trannies

You are kind of proving him right, and i was just clicking at random...

>>4373600
Well, you can sort the other way around highest to lowest if you want guaranteed girls. It's not much better. You get 30 streamers down before you hit double digit viewers again.

>>4373600
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbA74nSnIScrPLosct0ZjEA/videos
Active for a year, great singing voice, barely 30-40 live viewers at times and has to work a proper job just to have enough for rent and living expenses despite 4chan saviorfaging her
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRiymFyDcdlnOQ7OMsRed8g/videos Aktive since over a year tends to get 100-130 live viewers on a good day, got a buff from Polka collabing with her since they both called Polka. IS PART OF AN AGENCY
https://www.youtube.com/c/Ao1_Len/videos
aktive since 2+ years her latest stream has 80 views

>>4373737
>Active for a year, great singing voice, barely 30-40 live viewers at times and has to work a proper job just to have enough for rent and living expenses despite 4chan saviorfaging her

1 year and 30-40 viewers is not bad you fucking retard. its actually growth. 5 years from now she will have over 1k easy, especially if she focus on expanding.

You stupid fucks need to understand that streaming is a brand of yourself. if you do it "for fun" no shit you wont get viewers. but if you treat it as a brand and treat it seriously and advertise yourself to a wide audience you will grow. Its not a hard concept.

>>4373779
This applies just as easily to male streamers. A male space hyena furry currently has the seventh highest viewers on twitch and a Kuzuha ripoff has the second. Surely if anon is even moderately dedicated he should be able to beat those.

>>4373452
Ame's in a lot of timelines but the empty world of purgatory isn't one of them, anon.

>>4359366
this is true. money is apparently so easy to gain now that there are rich simps for everyone

>>4360171
that is called a job, not a hobby