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43486106 No.43486106 [Reply] [Original]

Reminder that ironRAT was completely silent on Silvervale's (and also her "friend" Pikamee's) harassment until people literally called her out for her tacit agreement with the twittertrannies to the point of doxxing her. Until that happened, all she had to say was "we talked to her in private" which even implies that Silver did something wrong. She even admits she only adressed it because she got called out.

And even AFTER addressing it she gave the most lukewarm and non-committal "nobody deserves to be harassed" PR bullshit statement. Never said it's okay to stream Hogwarts, never named Silvervale, never even condemned the twittertrannies doing the harassment, nothing.
But oh, it gets better. She can't even pretend to be fence-sitting properly, instead she makes it obvious she actually agrees with the twittertrannies and doesn't agree with streaming Hogwarts
>But listen man, sometimes people make choices on their own and they wanna choose to do stuff, and, I may not necessarily agree with certain choices that people make, but no one deserves to be... harassed.
Slimey as shit snake with zero morals, her whole "unity" shit is a LARP.
But oh, it STILL gets better. As I said she even admits the only reason she bothered to make statement was because people were calling her the fuck out, which of course she has to bitch and complain about.
>*in response to a chatter* Nah man! It's just, sometimes I see comments floating around on the twittiler, and people are like "the silence is deafening!"

The funny thing is that she and the rest of the backstabbing whores in vshojo would at least have plausible deniability if we didn't have a perfect reference point for how it looks when they ACTUALLY want to defend one of their members: the nux drama. All of them collectively tried to jump down his throat and swung their huge following around to get him character assassinated. That type of coordinated circlejerk is what you get when they actually want to defend each other. Silvervale, instead, get this vague joke of a statement in her """defense""" while actually all but saying that she was wrong for streaming le evil wizard game. Fucking rat.

>> No.43486161

Now say that without crying.

>> No.43486254 [DELETED] 

What else can you expect from someone who pretends to be a perma bedridden young girl for sympathy points, when she literally has a daughter?

>> No.43486330

Reminder that she lies about having physical illneses

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>>43486106
That's a lot of words

>> No.43486397 [DELETED] 

>>43486254
Having a daughter or not has nothing to do with her current medical status, you schizo.

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>>43486106
Holy based

>> No.43486447

Admittedly her LARP as the vtuber jesus was very effective, even many holochads got tricked into thinking she was "the only good one"

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>>43486106

>> No.43486476

>>43486106
The excuse her "fans" will use is the same one she did, which is that she would get crucified for anything she said here.
Which is true, all the more reason she should have done THE RIGHT THING and defended her "friend" Silver, by name, right away instead of this pathetic and still very late fence-sitting response.

>> No.43486582

>>43486106
I'm gonna reply just because this isn't deflection like the other bait threads

>> No.43486611

that cunt is reading this thread right now, she's not only terminally ill, she's also terminally here

>> No.43486615

>>43486397
Oh no, he believes her lies hahaha

>> No.43486630 [DELETED] 
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Co-ordinated harassment campaign happens against HoloJP member.
> Holos all close ranks around her, defend her from bullshit and keep interacting with her even at the cost of their own channels getting spammed.
> Prominent members ditch their big money chinese audience entirely in support.
> An entire branch is nuked when it turns out that some of them were condoning the behavior of these lunatics.
> "Report, Block, Ignore" mentality gets ingrained in fanbase, entire company becomes immune to outside attacks.

Co-ordinated harassment campaign happens against a VShojo member.
> One of your own colleagues throws you under the bus, and virtue signals with a "charity" to appease the mob.
> One (1) person """defends""" you publicly in the most non-committal way possible
> Rest of them leave you alone in the cold.

>> No.43486679

>>43486106
>Normie reddit corpo defends trannys
Wow, I am shocked!

>> No.43486701

>>43486447
She never convinced me

>> No.43486768

>>43486106
>if you don't say something publicly it was never said at all
wew, big reach my guise

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>>43486106
Guess who defend them? Yeah, this pink based bunny!

>> No.43486821

>>43486768
literally yes you dumb coping faggot. two-faced "support" given in the comfort of your privacy means nothing.

>> No.43486964

>>43486768
Tranny supporters love playing the "silence is deafening" tactic until it applies to them.

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>>43486106
>can’t play Hogwart’s
And they say talent freedom is good…

>> No.43487059

>>43486476
If you get crucified anyway get crucified for standing up for your friend, not appeasing a mob of strangers that won't give a flying fuck about you in a week.

Really shows she's as low as they come, never trust a friendship with this one.

>> No.43487148

>>43486768
Froot made it public.
Also like the other anon said, troons attack you even if you fencesit and refuse to pick a side.
Vshojo now has to pick a side.

>> No.43487328

>>43486106
Women are the worst. They can’t defend their gal pals against trannies but when a man steps in… everyone gets in involved and they defend them to the end because “men are evil”. And yet, the true evil is the tranny.

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>>43486106
I feel sorry for her family… especially the brother now that he’s now involved in this shit. And poor Silver mom…

>> No.43487829

>>43487527
Just don't support a bigot and maybe your family will stay safe too <3

>> No.43488161

>>43487829
ywnbaw and try harassing my family, you wont need to become a statistic ill make you one myself.

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>>43486330
https://www.plasmahero.org/hero/ironmouse
lol

>> No.43488607

>>43486106
On the other hand i amazed at zentranny not spazzing out about it and openly shitting on silvervale unless i missed something.

>> No.43488676 [DELETED] 

Wait she has a daughter?


Now ain’t that some shit. Still never subbed, never donated, and hardly ever watched. Vei and Snuffy are the only bearable vshojo members

>> No.43488873

>>43488607
Because guys playing female avatars on VRchat are not actual trannies.

>> No.43488915

>>43487829
https://files.catbox.moe/gnq3cn.mp4

>> No.43488982

>>43486106
She literally talked about it the next time she streamed while the drama happened during her previous. Dunno why you keep targeting Mouse who is basically the only member that defended her at all.. Instead of you know, one of the ones that didn't.

>> No.43489161

>>43488982
Staying silent is unironically better than anything mouse has done and continues to do

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>>43488873
>Because guys playing female avatars on VRchat are not actual trannies.

>> No.43489302

>>43486768
Refusing to stand up for a victim and only limiting yourself to support them in private after the fact is just another form of being complicit in their harassment.
You are just preventing them from taking radical action against the system and keeping them primed for further abuse.
This would be patently obvious to you when its straight men bullying her but for some reason people like you lose all steam when it comes to trannies bullying women; almost like you are only willing to go against easy targets.

>> No.43489305

>>43489202
Most of them are not, anyways.

>> No.43489829 [DELETED] 

>>43488982
The other ones have always been obvious scum, but Ironrat wants to LARP as the jesus of vtubing, so she deserves to get exposed

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>>43486106
>people literally called her out for her tacit agreement with the twittertrannies to the point of doxxing her.

>> No.43489943

>>43486161
Not OP but if you read a post and think the person writing it is actually crying then that's just sadistic schizophrenia.

>> No.43490038

>>43486106
>You’re silence is deafening
said Twitter
>Reminder that [vtuber] was completely silent on...

WORSE
THAN
TWITTER

When did you become the very thing you swore to destroy?

>> No.43490268 [DELETED] 

>>43490038
She doesn't stay silent when it suits her, calling out hypocrisy has always been based.

>> No.43490328

>>43490268
>>>/twitter/
You’ll fit right in

>> No.43490421 [DELETED] 

>>43490328
Cope ironshart

>> No.43490478

>>43486447
no one with functional brain actually think "she is good" more like she is the most tolerable one in Vshojo which is very low bar to begin with, anyone know those "unity" thing is nothing more than cloutchasing act

>> No.43490549

>>43490421
I don’t even watch her, I’m just here to tell catalog shitters to get the rope
Go back to Twitter, facebook or whatever website you mud-hut dwellers use.

>> No.43490739

>>43487829
I see your hair. It is a wig.
Your Adam’s apple still looks big.
You are a man, and that is clear.
I do not see a woman here.
I must admit, it’s rather odd.
To hear you say you’re now a broad.
You have no uterus, so no:
You cannot bleed from down below.
I do not like your padded bra!
You should not use the women’s spa!
You tell me you had surgery;
Your pronouns still are ”him” and ”he.”
Your chromosomes are X and Y.
That means you’ll always be a guy.
You gave yourself a girly name.
That does not mean you’re now a dame.
A surgeon chopped your eggs and ham?
I still won’t call you Ma’am i Am.

>> No.43490881

>>43488676
>Vei and Snuffy are the only bearable vshojo members

Lmao

>> No.43490997

holy shit you people are obsessed with the drama surrounding this game. rent fucking free.

>> No.43490998

I just wanted to let OP know that ironrat isn't much of an insult considering she's been using it as a nickname for years. You might want to come up with a better one.

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>>43488607
She's actively talks to Silver on twitter. They were joking about Icecream the other day after she'd already streamed the game.

>> No.43491506

>>43487829
I think you messed up your meds faggot. You were supposed to take the schizo pill not the estrogen one

>> No.43491817

>>43490998
I read the name in the OP as ironfat.

>> No.43492005

>>43487829
this is definitely a bait post

>> No.43492174

>>43487829
Why don't you cheesegrate your scrotum? Assuming a surgeon hasn't done so already.

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>>43486106
I see lgbtretards already started attacking Mouse for her statement.
This means she did everything right.
BASED MOUSE.

get fucked, cunt.

>> No.43492274

>>43490038
>>43490328
>>43490549
>>43490997
>dont use my tactics against me, you play by the rules
Is his the best damage control you bunker idiots can ever come up with? Do you think 4channers ever pretended this place is a bastion of rational discourse? That might work on Reddit where people are concerned with optics but we were called the hate machine before twatter even existed.
Why do you even bother organizing on Discord? Apply yourselves

>> No.43492298

>>43488873
This might be the single stupidest statement I've ever read on this website.

>> No.43492509

>>43492298
So according to you anyone using a female character anywhere ever is a tranny.

>> No.43492552

>>43486373
based chama

>> No.43492630

Ironrat? More like IronFAT.

>> No.43492724

>>43492274
Being the twitter 2.0 isn’t a "strategy" is complete braindead retardation.
I was on this website when react pict were still called image macro. You can take your discord raid boogeyman and shove it up your ass.
Shitskin tourists from SEA facebook is what is killing this website.
Take a bullet to the head. You and your race is a waste of oxygen

>> No.43492775

>>43486106
>tranny seen vshojo not imploding from their twitter flailing
>ironmouse makes statement that she stands behind silver
>decides to go after ironmouse instead
keep crying tranny

>> No.43492823

>>43488982
Zen said she's been talking with Silver in private, and Vei liked pro-Silver tweets

>> No.43492925

>>43492823
Vei also liked Froot’s charity thing. Safe to say most of Vshojo is trying to play both sides.

>> No.43492957

>>43492724
>N-np, its not my agenda thats ruining everything; let me appeal to your le ebin racism to deflect your anger to random third worlders instead
least transparent bunkertranny

>> No.43492976 [DELETED] 

>AIDS-ridden latino single mom cares only about money and attention
in other news, sun is very bright and shine during the day

>> No.43493031

>>43492957
whatever makes you sleep at night tranny

>> No.43493136

>>43493031
Do your friends know you are using no-no words when raiding? Are you still on kosher territory? Watch your back buddy

>> No.43493262

>we are a family! talent freedom!
>instantly throwing people under the bus and backstabbing the moment a opportunity arises

>> No.43493273

>>43493136
You will never be white

>> No.43493415

>>43492274
RENT FREE. you must be new here.

>> No.43493425

>>43493273
You wont resurrect your dead comrades by seething at indonesians

>> No.43493432 [DELETED] 

>>43492775
>blatantly lying
Notice how ironshills can't actually defend the reality of the situation?

>> No.43493541

>>43492925
as they should be if they were smart. the drama is external idiots trying to start shit. None of them wanted to start anything regarding wizard game. Circling the wagons against the barbarian hordes trying to destroy everything is the best business model. The audiences are still there and destroying yourselves from the inside because nonwatchers are on some fake moral crusade is just stupid. if they lose 5 watchers who cares?
This is literally the same situation as hololive and the bugs. Yagoo was smart enough to cut off the bugs. Vshojo should do the same with these.

>> No.43494037

>>43493541
They're going to have to pick a side eventually, especially when trying to go both ways will just gain contempt from both sides.

>> No.43494353

>>43493415
The bunkerfag is immunized against all dangers, you can call him a cuck, a coward, a fence sitter, a wrecker. It all slides off him like water on a raincoat.
But call him a bunkerfag and you will be astonished at how he recoils

>> No.43494450

>>43486106
The problem OP is that you are approaching this from the "streaming the wizard game is not bad, so they threw their friend under the bus thus they are bad people and their unity is fake".
What you don't understand is that from their point of view streaming wizard game is actually bad.
What silver did is bad, unforgivable. They are putting up with her bullshit the best they can and trying to distance themselves from what she did because they are embarrassed and disgusted by it because to them it's morally wrong.
Everyone has different morals and standards so I don't know what you (the OP) or anyone reading this post considers bad.
But imagine one of your friends did something that was considered very bad among your social group, religion or local moral standards.
You aren't mad at them but you are disappointed, they get rightfully in trouble for what they did so you can't in good faith defend them.
But you still think the actions people have taken are against them are generally too far.
But you aren't going to defend them.
That's the position of Vshoujo.

>> No.43494535

>>43494450
>from their point of view streaming wizard game is actually bad.
This is false btw

>> No.43494768

>>43494037
there really is no "sides". 99% of those are outside twitter idiots who don't even watch vshojo. The audiences haven't disappeared and this harassment is just going to galvanize the existing audience who see outside trannies harassing people for a minimal slight that they see as unimportant. All morally outraged morality policing groups eventually give up when the new thing that gives them attention pops up and more people are left hating hating them.

>> No.43494841

>>43494450
This is why moral relativism is disgusting. Playing the game is absolutely not wrong. Not standing up for your friends is absolutely wrong.

>> No.43494862

>>43494450
Several of them expressed interest before dropping the topic after Silver got dogpiled

>> No.43494971

>>43494862
They didn't know it was bad. They later got educated and changed their position.

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Stream her shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMy5wDVG9AQ

>> No.43495247

This same shit happened with nijis, can we just now collectively agree that any cringe fuckers that put up a "unity" front is just bullshit assholes behind the cameras

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>>43486615
>he believes her lies
ironic since you believe them too

>> No.43495357

>coworker you barely talk to jumps off the bridge despite being warned about it several times
>you're supposed to jump with her because ""unity""
Nah. She made her own bed. Sort it out yourself.

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43495391

So where's the stream that shows this, schizo?

>> No.43495514

>>43494450
>What you don't understand is that from their point of view streaming wizard game is actually bad.
Stopped reading here. Thinking that it's bad is just stupid, no matter what the reasoning may be.

>> No.43495519

>>43490739
>ywnbaw Dr Suess poem
top kek

>> No.43495567 [DELETED] 

>>43495329
Why does /vt/ keep posting the fact that Mouse has a daughter like it's a damning reveal?
I'm serious, I don't get it. It's a pretty open secret, of course she covered up her roommates life once she began vtubing because that's what the industry expects, and Mouse has never been gfe to the point where having a family would matter. Hell, she's practically dating Connor from Trash Taste, who's unicorning for her with that dynamic going on?

>> No.43495578

>>43494768
Well what i mean is the sides are trannies vs the sane.

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>>43494971
Are you this faggot?

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>> No.43495747

>>43495695
I guess they never will have nostalgią since you need to live past 20 for it?

>> No.43495802

>>43486106
Based, better to get money than friends

>> No.43495887

>>43495357
>Coworker you've been together with for years gets brutally bullied
>You're supposed to throw her under the bus because ""trans rights""
Your lack of empathy is disturbing.

>> No.43495899

Remember the parasocial guy who was in Silvervale's inner circle of paypigs who wrote a whole expose google doc claiming to be groomed by Silver in dms?

https://twitter.com/ZelosD_FFXIV/status/1548116179268489227

well this fine fellow is now chiming in on the Silver HL situation:

https://twitter.com/ZelosD_FFXIV/status/1627740762812125188
https://twitter.com/ZelosD_FFXIV/status/1627740762812125188
https://twitter.com/ZelosD_FFXIV/status/1627740762812125188

Spoiler: he thinks she deserved it kek

>> No.43495956

>>43495391
He's referring to this one.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1742257470

>> No.43496062

>>43495899
>FF14 in their twitter handle
the sign of a sane and well-adjusted individual worth listening to

>> No.43496394

>>43495695
No I'm just rationalizing this from their perspective.
It's a classic woman thing to change position on stuff when lectured about it.
It doesn't mean their new position is not real.

>> No.43496604

>>43496394
it's a classic tranny thing to be jealous bitches to real women and take pleasure in taking someone else down and hide it behind fake moral outrage

>> No.43496741

>>43496604
Yes and it works very well.

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>>43495956
>8 hours.
I'ma need a timestamp for the start of the silvervale discussion, senpai.

>> No.43497179 [DELETED] 

>>43497038
>>43389051

>> No.43497403

>>43497179
That's all fine and dandy, but I wanna know where this transcript starts.

>> No.43497427

>>43486630
I honestly don't get the point of vshojo anymore.
If there's no security and no unity, why not just go indie?
>>43486816
Which shows that, after all, Pippa is actually a good person despite what that retard nyatasha "kill all koreans" nyanners says.

>> No.43497556

>>43495695
>she grew as a person
are they jesus?

>> No.43497647 [DELETED] 

>>43497427
Presumably the vshojo sticker buffs their noombers.
I don't know why else you'd be in the company, I mean if their whole gimmicks is literally not having any management, then where's the difference to being an indie?

>> No.43497770

>>43497427
>Which shows that, after all, Pippa is actually a good person
oh fuck off pippafag, other vtubers like pink cat being scum doesn't somehow retroactively exonerate the pink rabbit. Yeah vshojo is full of cowardly fake backstabbers and defending Silver is all well and good except the rabbitbitch is also a doxxfag who openly mocked one of the worst things that ever happened to Kiara, all so she could get clout with random anons. And then 180'd when it didn't work out and acts like nothing happened. Fuck Pippa, she's just as bad as the rest of them.
inb4 'b-but that was two years ago!' even though you are criticizing catbitch for things she did even longer ago than that.

>> No.43497834

>>43497038
33 minutes into the video.

>> No.43497882

>Puerto Ricans are duplicitous
color me surprised

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>>43497834
Thanks. Currently just downloading the Vod, so I couldn't actually track it down myself.

>> No.43498280

>>43497647
They help with sponsorships, finding merch vendors, and provide lawyers IIRC, other than that you're pretty much on your own.

>> No.43498417 [DELETED] 

>>43498280
I've never seen vshojo have sponsorships and merch

>> No.43498448

gotta support the cause

>> No.43498606

>>43497770
You're gonna have to back up those rrats about the rabbit.

>> No.43498851

>>43498606
how fucking new?

>> No.43499069

>>43498851
Either give me the evidence or shut it.

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>Vtuber
>Friends with Connor
>Can't keep their nose out of trouble

Every time.

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>>43499069
Only retards are proud of being newfags.

>> No.43499432

>>43499069
oh I get it, you're just trying to bait me into getting sniped by jannies. Go fuck yourself Pippafag, I don't need to explain shit. You can just simply search 'Pippa Kiara' and look anywhere yourself if you're new and being sincerely retarded, it's old news.

>> No.43499541

why are people forgetting that mouse was planning to play/stream the game herself until people started being weirdos in her tweet where she talked about being excited for the game

>> No.43499644

>>43499541
>clout chaser was going to stream FOTM until she found out that there was marginally more clout to get from sanctimoniously not streaming it.
It just doesn't need much discussing.

>> No.43499849

>>43499386
She clearly likes Kiara, dude.

>> No.43499911

>>43499644
Except by not streaming it and putting down Silver she's creating more controversy than she would have if she did stream it.
Tranies aren't the majority Anon, and the amount of support Silver is getting is proof of this.

>> No.43500252

>>43495357
>co-worker is standing on a bridge
>random tranny pushes her off
>you said that she deserved it for standing in the tranny's way

>> No.43500318

>>43499849
What a pathetic Pippafag. She would shit on you if it meant getting points with other faggot anons here.

>> No.43500416

>>43497770
> And then 180'd when it didn't work out and acts like nothing happened.
For what little it's worth she referenced it in a stream a few months ago. She said she didn't understand it would be upsetting and expressed dissatisfaction with being a headcase. Not an apology and if there ever was one I guess it wouldn't be public, but there are you are.

>> No.43500482

>>43499849
absolutely pathetic and delusional; if you're not just trolling then you've got to be next level of autistic to not see what is obviously happening here

>> No.43500507

>>43486106
look at all that deranged shit you wrote

>> No.43500654

>>43487007
Where was this pic?

>> No.43500677
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>>43490739
That rap was tight yo!

>> No.43500678

>>43497770
>one of the worst things that ever happened to Kiara
Not even close.

>> No.43500869

>>43500416
>She said she didn't understand it would be upsetting
kek
>"oh sorry I made a le epic meme reference about some obviously terrible shit that happened to you which invited people to look up doxx info on you, I was just trying to make the people who hate you on 4channel laugh bro, didn't realize it would hurt your feelings, bro!"
not sure if extreme retardation or shameless sociopathic lying

>> No.43500922

>>43486106
42% is not enough.

>> No.43501373

>>43498417
NTA, but nyan and mouses videos on Elden ring were sponsored, and when they say merch, iirc its not "Vshojo" brand merch but individual merch for the streamer that the company helps with shit like manufacturing deals and what not.

>> No.43501454

>>43499386
Is this what people are mad about? Cause thats pretty funny, both the joke and the seethe.

>> No.43501555

I just saw this in the popular threads on the home page, and clicked because I occasionally get recommended Ironmouse clips on youtube. What the fuck are you guys doing in here? This is full on Japanese otaku idol level of obsession. Are you okay?

>> No.43501698

>>43501555
Get a load of the newfag.

>> No.43501722

If you don't support trans rights, you shouldn't watch vtubers. Your oshi is a liberal and hates you

>> No.43501857

>>43501555
you have to go back, get out while you still can jk you're here forever

>> No.43502174

>>43501722
My oshi moved to a different continent that she was born on, just to be further away from niggers.
Broadly liberal? Probably. But more in an antiquated "Technically, I'm a socialist" way, not a modern shitlib. If you catch my drift

>> No.43502194

>>43500318
>>43500482
She has said more positive things than negative.
But you're spreading your rrats so don't let me stop you.
>>43501722
Back to the bunker.

>> No.43502328

>>43501454
yeah sure it is pretty funny if you never mentally grew up from being a le epic edgy 12 year old who gets their entire personality from south park and aren't passionate about anything. Unlike you however, some of us aren't ironic faggots obsessed with not being 'cringe,' actually have principles and give a fuck about things. Kill yourself you soulless subhuman.

>> No.43502748

>>43502194
>She has said more positive things than negative.
so fucking what? Deliberately drawing attention to some malicious doxxshit instantly overwrites all of this because of how bad it is. It'd be less of a problem if the thing Pippa was referencing was something trivial but it isn't and she isn't even sorry about it, she just went 'oh I didn't know that was wrong because I'm just a silly sped, teehee!'

What you're saying is like if you had a friend of a friend/acquaintance at work who had been abused as a child or something and you casually cracked a joke about it, everyone looked at you like 'wtf are you saying, you sick fuck?' and then someone other mongoloid came along (you in this analogy) and was like 'well it doesn't matter that Steve made that joke about Joe, because he also said nice things about him too sometimes!' nobody would give a fuck about the nice things at that point.
You can keep calling it 'rrats' all you want but this is essentially what has happened and you're just coping because you don't want it to be that the funny rabbit woman whose streams you like is actually a cunt.

>> No.43502858

>>43501857
I'm not staying here, I was just genuinely fucking worried.
>>43501698
Congratulations, you're a veteran of whatever embarrassingly sad lifestyle leads to threads like this.

>> No.43503031

>>43502748
Did she at least admit she fucked up?

>> No.43503182 [DELETED] 

>>43502194
>She has said more positive things than negative.
More like: it backfired hard on her and she realized she can't leech off of "orange woman bad" so now she tries to say positive shit.
She's just a grifter.

>> No.43503307

>>43503182
That's an assumption.
>>43502748
Nothing wrong with backtracking after you realize your joke went too far.

>> No.43503549

>>43486447
No one that close with TT can be a good person

>> No.43503762

>>43503031
Dug up what I mentioned here >>43500416, you can judge for yourself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuB2wuBtp2Y&t=6791s
It's part of an extended ramble on her causing offense to other people. There's some hugboxing superchat reading to skip through. Ultimately she doesn't seem to come to any kind of conclusion other than that she envies people who are either kinder than her and don't fuck up so much or more sociopathic than her and don't fuck up so much.

>> No.43504870

>>43503762
>"People who don't already know wouldn't understand so in my head there was no problem with it"
wow what a fucking retard. So basically 'it's not bad because only doxxfags would understand it and find it funny?' yes? that's the literally the problem? The fact that they find it funny? Also how fucking dumb do you have to be to not realize that making some esoteric doxxfag reference would obviously invite confused people to look into what it was referencing?
>"I believe you when you say it's bad but I don't... it just doesn't click in my head"
KEK you can tell she was literally about to say 'but I don't feel bad' but then stopped herself.
>excuses herself with le quirky autism and makes herself the victim
yeah this bitch feels zero remorse whatsoever, just like I thought. What a fucking loser. She's just like the losers on twitter that list mental illnesses in their bios and use that as an excuse to act like malicious shameless pieces of shit to people i.e. the exact same kind of people she's defending Silvervale from, ironically enough

>> No.43505194

>>43504870
Talk about bad faith interpretations, man.

>> No.43505701

>>43497770
I fucking hate the Austrian retard. Now I only like the bunny more. Thanks Anon!

>> No.43505712

>>43492202
The only one based was Silver for doing what she wanted, and the bunny for actually standing up for her when she isn't even in that circle. The rest of vshojo clearly wanted to play it themselves, but caved to troons as the date approached, and continued to do so when their supposed friend was targeted by said troons. I wouldn't be surprised if that "private talk" was them telling her the same as what Froot did and to "do better".

>> No.43505803

>>43505194
go on then, tell me what the good faith interpretation is? Or are you just throwing around the phrase bad faith as if it discredits what I'm saying somehow? Do you think I don't really believe what I'm saying?

>> No.43505907

>>43486106
>Mouse got doxxed
Source? Who did it?

>> No.43505960

>>43505701
not now, deadbeat

>> No.43505990 [DELETED] 

I feel like chuubas watching their co-workers get harassed and being too cowardly to say anything wouldn't even happen in fucking NijiEN (to say nothing of HoloEN).

That's some vile shit man. The power of "talent freedom" I guess.

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>>43505990
KEK nice jork

>> No.43506432

>>43505990
You're right, wanna know why? Because NijiEN and HoloEN won't let their talents play the game. Give VShojo credit, at least Silver got a chance to play the game.

>> No.43507237

Is it really that hard to just ignore these faggot trannies? They don't watch streams or play games. Just block, ban or ignore them. It's ridiculous people even give them attention.

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>>43487829

>> No.43508128

>>43486630
Yeah, even normies noticed how cold Vshojo is.
Other than that time when they promoted the Vshojo JP branch by welcoming Kson together, they pretty much on their own.
Even I noticed that Kson didn't say anything to defend Pikamee. Even when Pikamee is allegedly Kson's close friend.
Come, come into HoloID, we speak English and we don't give a fuck toward woke ideologies.

>> No.43508210

>>43487829
4chan is not your safe space, troon.

>> No.43508543

>>43493273
>Trannies: "We're not racist!"
>Also trannies: "Fuck those SEA people, bunch of shitskins"
Why woke people always exposed as more racist than kkk

>> No.43508644

>>43494450
This level cope is just hilariously sad

>> No.43508828

>>43495357
>Trannies backstabbing people
Remind me in UK a bunch of lesbians were kicked out from a pride parade because their existence make trannies uncomfortable because lesbians don't date trans people.
They're eating each other.

>> No.43509004

>friends with ironic weeb animetubers
>good person
lemafo

>> No.43509593

>>43505803
A bad faith interpretation could I guess be awkwardly read as one that unfairly attributes bad faith to the person whose words you're interpreting, rather than one which is argued in bad faith. Uncharitable might be a better word. And I would use that word to describe the end of what you wrote.
It's true that what happened to Kiara is terrible and that it was wrong of Pippa to make light of it. And like you say she isn't regretful of it in a conventional sense. But unlike the self-assured twitterers, she has doubts and openly struggles with them. She doesn't think that she's right, and wishes she could be the kind of person who can channel what she loves about the world into streaming and posting without crossing that line.
I don't know if you care specifically for Kiara or if you just have a strong sense of justice, but if either of those feelings are telling you that you can't accept that, then that's okay. I wanted to try to convey something about the person I care about at her lowest, but if it doesn't reach then it doesn't reach.

>> No.43509712

>>43497427
Yeah, I was so confused. After the con event done, they just go their own separate ways. Even Ironmouse signed with other talent agency for her record deals.

I'm not trying to be a Hololive fan but Hololive people are far more active than Vshojo. They have annual Holofest, 3D showcase, new costume showcase, online and offline concerts, steady stream of merchandising, releasing cover and original music so much there's even a fan channel dedicated to make top 30 Hololive cover and original videos released every week.
Then they also have baseball league brand deal, racing event brand deal, product brand deals (taco bell, online games, instant noodle, Nendoroid, etc etc), advertising deals, and even govt contracted cultural ambassadors.

Vshojo felt more like a shell company. Just a front to collect money without actually doing anything worthwhile.

>> No.43509910

>>43502328
lol in the end it's your feeling that hort lol.
Also South Park is based, like recently they made Harry and Megan seeth over an episode mocking them relentlessly. They even considering lawsuit. More like lolsuit.

>> No.43509989

>>43499386
I just love that you talk as if it's a big thing, then you show evidence and turn out it's just nothingburger.

>> No.43510061

>>43499432
>"I don't have the evidence, so lemme accuse you of baiting me to get me kicked out by jannies"
A twitterfag mental gymnastic.

>> No.43510062

>>43486106
Zero commitment and loyalty.

>> No.43510166

>>43501722
Oh I fucking love vtubers and troons will never be a woman.
Fuck you, go back to Tumblr

>> No.43510214

I don't care if people play the game but Pikamee and Silvervale's behavior in response to some incredibly mild pushback has honesty made me lose a lot of respect for them. Don't become a public figure if your skin is this thin that you have public breakdowns or disappear for weeks because of minor criticism.

inb4 death threats/doxxing with no evidence or from literal anti-trans 4chin troll accounts

>> No.43510738 [DELETED] 

>>43510214
>it's just mild criticism
>and if it's more than that, then it's a falseflag
At least try to hide your cope, tranny

>> No.43510833

>>43510214
People who followed Pikamee for a long time knew about her insecurities but we're fine with that because she's one of the nicest Vtuber/streamer and always have positivity in her that make us happy.
Troons on the other hand are the most vile racist piece of sub humans ever exist after what they've done to Pikamee. They never watch her, they never try to know her, they never consider other people's feeling. Just because of a game they consider her a nazi and deserves death. I have ZERO respect toward the troon community and their allies after this, Fuck you for blaming someone who's mentally invulnerable and have little control over it.

>> No.43510872

>>43510738
>>43510833
Nice evidence you got there.

>> No.43511056 [DELETED] 

>>43510833
>"Haha I deflect joo!"
This is not 2010 anymore.
Give us an actual rebuttal, not this elementary school shit.

>> No.43511069

>>43504870
Thx anon, i finally know why most people hate her and i feel the same. No wonder she collab with a doxxer.

>> No.43511093

>>43509593
>But unlike the self-assured twitterers, she has doubts and openly struggles with them. She doesn't think that she's right, and wishes she could be the kind of person who can channel what she loves about the world into streaming and posting without crossing that line.
if it's true that Pippa genuinely knows it's bad, thinks it's bad and wants to change, it's just baffling to me how this squares with why she even did it in the first place. I mean, the doxxshit she was referencing (and the kind of people she was obviously trying to appeal to) is so plainly obviously bad that's it's bizarre that someone who already understands this would do it anyway and then genuinely feel bad about it.
It's just baffling what her intention there was and there's no way of really explaining this that makes her look better. No matter how you look at it, the only conclusion you can really agree on is that she didn't think Kiara's feelings (if she hypothetically saw it) or the badness of the action were more important than how amusing she found it/the attention she would get from it.
The only other way to explain it is to think that Pippa imagines other people - including Kiara herself - would (or should) find such a thing funny and not a big deal by default, which would be extremely delusional and a massively autistic thing to think.

>I don't know if you care specifically for Kiara or if you just have a strong sense of justice
Both

>> No.43511154

>>43510872
>"Haha I deflect joo!"
This is not 2010 anymore.
Give us an actual rebuttal, not this elementary school shit.

>> No.43511213

>>43486106
>grifter grifts
Surely this isn't a surprise to you.

>> No.43511217

>>43511154
What can be asserted without evidence can be rebuked without evidence. You're literally just saying words. I'm literally Silvervale and I say I'm wrong. Don't worry about evidence.

>> No.43511401

>>43511217
What evidence you want? Tons of clips of Pikamee being wholesome? That's what you want? You can do that yourself easy.
Either you're just running out of argument or you don't know what you're talking about.

>> No.43511439

>>43511401
ESL chama... start from the start and read again.
>>43510214

>> No.43511517

>>43510214
>mild pushback
High ignorance. Low empathy.

>> No.43511622

>>43486106
The "terminally online freaks" thing rubbed her the wrong way

>> No.43511629

>>43510872
What evidence do you have that it wasn't as bad as it was?

>> No.43511651

>>43511629
>t. doesn't know how evidence works

>> No.43512012

>>43486106
While i agree that the statemet was weak you must have in mind that these girls are not friends irl it is all for show and it is not a Vshojo exclusive. In each of the idol companies are groups of people that get along and some who don't. This whole we are all friends thing is theire brand ironmouse has gone from a cripple (or not if you belive the rrats) to someone who just bought>>43486106
a new house all because her brand is no offence at anyone she will not risk that just for some girl she didn't even knew a few years ago.

>> No.43512164

>>43511217
So why can't you look into this yourself?
If you go check the archives i'm sure you will find a lot of the Twitter screencaps that have been posted here.

>> No.43512191

>>43512012
The fact that Silvervale couldn't keep it together honestly puts their brand at risk. Even small and non-professional vtuber groups are avoiding the game and not speaking about it at all to help maintain their comfy brand. But the biggest group can't keep it together? Silvervale has gotten a MASSIVE follower boost from this controversy so there is a conspiracy theory that says she did this on purpose for selfish reasons.

>> No.43512905

>>43512164
I already did. This is exactly why I say there is no evidence. Because I spent a day tracking down as much evidence as I could and there was none.

Every single screenshot compilation shows that the worst comments were like "I'm disappointed in you" "unfollowed" or the horrendous "gross". I saw a couple sceenshots of people saying things more extreme than that (but nowhere near blatant threats to cause harm to her) and when I looked at the accounts those came from they were clear troll accounts (one was literally saying that if you aren't into hardcore lolicon porn you're a fascist, another was flaming trans people, etc. etc.).

That being said, it's important to recognize that no group answers for individual actions of random people. But there isn't even any evidence that there are any significant amount of people doing any kind of harassing in these cases. Harassment is bad and everyone agrees with that. But the (unproven) existence of harassers literally has nothing to do with trans people or the critiques of buying the game and the game itself.

>> No.43513195

>>43486630
>>43508128
I have yet to see anyone from holo supporting shion or la+ about unicorn harassment.
when they suspended 5gen members for laughing at the janitors, did anyone step forward and say it's just a joke?
the same thing happened with the BL manga drama.
and so on with every single drama, all they do is make the people involved apologize, take a break (suspension) and the other members don't bring it up at all.
yes, holo was very united but that was 2 years ago.

>> No.43513517

>>43512191
Oh fuck off. Silvervale isn't putting anything at risk. In fact she been giving the brand more publicity that it has received in a long time and she even helped kick-start an anti bullying campaign that's raising awareness to the point where being silent on the subject is turning into a negative.
Oh, and VShojo isn't the biggest group, it's Hololive, and people are slowly starting to realize just how crappy HoloEN's management is over all this.

>> No.43513600

>>43513195
So what you're saying is management (And possibly EN influence) killed Hololive unity?

>> No.43513830

>>43513517
Yep, HoloEn being banned from even mentioning it while JP is still bingeing it tells everyone it is taboo and gives power to the hate mob

>> No.43513942

VOMs has been the most mismanaged group ever. It honestly bothers me so much because I've been a Gyari fan for so long, both music and art. From Monoe termination to Pikamee model change, to this fiasco. Monoe's contract must've been fucked up and Pika's was probably renegotiated due to her success so she could do whatever she wanted. No one else would be allowed to just disappear from public life for this long without information, or to unilaterally defy branding.

>> No.43514867

>>43513600
may be.
but what I am trying to say is that holo is not an ideal paradise.
niggers here tend to forget that ultimately these girls are just co-workers.

>> No.43515515

If they actually cared, Froot would have been fired immediately for blatant bullying of another talent. It's obvious whose side they picked.

>> No.43515575

>>43513942
Well to be fair VOMs was never meant to be a big group. From the beginning it was just meant to be a small project for people already doing VTubing as a hobby looking for a part-time job.
Pikamee herself even said that the contracts the talents sign are just to use Gyari's artwork, models and music with the only rule being "Don't do anything stupid" while using them.

>> No.43515693

>>43515575
And yet she stopped using his content and is basically freelance now. If Tomoshika could I'm sure she would upgrade models but I'm pretty sure she contractually can't.

>> No.43515994

>>43513517
>and people are slowly starting to realize just how crappy HoloEN's management is over all this.
>randomly bringing up HoloEN
Stop diverting, VShotroon.

>> No.43516202

>>43515994
Half of my post was defending Silvervale.
I'm on your side.

>> No.43516209

>>43486106
Jesus how many days are nijifags going to deflect this drama into being. No one gives a fuck about vwhorejo! I will never watch anyone at that company

>> No.43516703

>>43486630
VShojo can already market itself not as your usual vtuber agency, but as a management agency, which you pay to do your merch, sponsors, etc, because its just what they still do, because any member management is gone for a long time.

>> No.43516744

Brittney Venti going after mouse. Same arguments she uses against Gura
https://youtu.be/lc8dTnShbhs

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>>43513195
You understand the difference and that it actually means something for VShojo members not to say anything when they are the "talent freedom" corpo, right? They'll talk about anything that shits out their heads, oh except the harassment of their own member. Holomems also don't blatantly polfag and be partially responsible for the harassment for another mem.
>I have yet to see anyone from holo supporting shion or la+ about unicorn harassment
https://twitter.com/LaplusDarknesss/status/1627504312485130241
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBerbFd0TKc&ab_channel=holoyume-VTuberENGSubs%E3%83%9B%E3%83%AD%E5%A4%A2
Yeah, you got it, bud. La+ has no support from Hololive whatsoever. Nada.

>> No.43516989

>>43516893
You know anyone who takes even a second to look into it can recognize how bad faith your criticism is here, right?

>> No.43517196

>>43516989
>dumb faggot retard bringing up Marine's BL manga shit as if that meant anything and evidence of no support
>Marine is obviously still an extremely prominent figure and important member of Hololive
Yeah, that was bad faith.

>> No.43517237

>>43516744
So what you're saying is that Mouse's response to the trans controversy was actually a response to that Brittney lady?

>> No.43517818

>>43509910
Note a lot of celebrities like it except ones that are pretentious, like Tom cruise. Angelina Jolie, but funny enough that jersey show girl liked it(think she's Snook) and Kanye is mixed

>> No.43518369

>>43492298
He's technically not wrong

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>>43486447
This, so many people unironically parroted
>she's the only good one in vshojo
I'm fucking tired of it, the last two years of ironmouse has shown her true colors as just another shitty person who deserves no special treatment
She didn't defend pikamee, she didn't defend silvervale, instead she sides with all the insane people harassing them and says "their complaints are valid," absolutely crazy

>> No.43518554

>>43497770
Bro stop with the sperg out, the wrestling joke will ALWAYS be funny, pippa's actions speak louder than your platitudes about comedy

>> No.43518609

>>43499386
>>43500318
pippa shares a huge portion of her fanbase with kiara, imagine being this dense, kiara was her 3rd top shared fanbase

>> No.43518688

>>43516893
try to read more slowly.
you can >>43513195

>> No.43518697

>>43505803
anon you are not well in the head

>> No.43519020

>>43511093
Understandable

>> No.43519056

>>43499356
That faggot grifter has been a sickness to vtubing ever since he latched onto her like a parasite.

>> No.43519221

>>43510214
It definitely wasn't "incredibly mild pushback" in Pika's case, that shit was spicy before she started deleting tweets and eventually set chat to subscribers only. That aside, Pika is incredibly self-conscious lately about what the EN audience thinks of her. She really does need to see the realities of what it means to court such an audience before it's too late.

>> No.43519261

>>43511093
I would say that she learned her lesson since kirche was joking about a rape and pippa said not to joke about it

>> No.43519346

>>43518688
Asking me to read your dishonest garbage for a third time isn't going to change my mind that you're a retard that doesn't know how to contextualise what support entails and looks like.

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>>43516744
It's so weird seeing rev defend ironmouse so hard and say that no one dislikes ironmouse when ITT there are tons of people that dislike her
Is everyone here a brittany venti fan?
Or is ironmouse deleting all criticism of her off the internet?

>> No.43519385

>>43488915
Kek

>> No.43519452

>>43517196
>you have no proof that marine didn't get support, she probably got a lot of support from her friends privately although I don't have proof either, because she is super-duper awesome.
>vshitshow can't show her support in private because they are WHOOOOORREEEESSS
>aaaaaiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeee!!!

>> No.43519484

>>43519364
>tons of people
This thread doesn't even have 100 ips and even then not all of them hate mouse.

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>>43486106
>stream game that attracts a lot of negativity and harassment
>not even a particularly good game just nostalgia bait
>there is no reason to play it other than making a pointless stand
Playing the game was a bad idea even if you hate twitter troons. It's bad for herself and bad for the group.

>> No.43519530

>>43519221
It really was mild and people have been talking about the game for over a year. Anyone paying even the slightest attention knew what controversy it would invite. But Pika has really just been cruising and doing whatever she wants with no effort, so it doesn't surprising me she wasn't paying any attention to her job, her audience, etc.

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>>43519452
Here is where you show me a Holomem rubbing it in Marine's face that she made a mistake.

>> No.43519693

>>43519346
I'm sorry you don't have the mental capacity to read things that make you feel anxiety.

>> No.43519767

>>43519693
It's unfortunate but it's still okay to be retarded. Scurry on now.

>> No.43519888

>>43519611
why do you deviate?
I see, you have nothing to refute with.

>> No.43519918

>>43502858
Good, unfortunately I can't since I want to be kept up to date and besides the rats, I find out more stuff here Than later with a video with some bias

>> No.43519945

>>43511093
>I don't know if you care specifically for Kiara or if you just have a strong sense of justice
Kiara doesn't need people like you in KFP, her wrestling arc helped her grow as a woman, something you just don't understand.
Many things in our life shape us, I think you need to grow up a little and realize that not all bad things in life have a negative outcome on the soul, joking about things like this is what makes us human
Someone like pippa has an entire mountain of shit you can make fun of, so does kiara, it's part of airing so much of your life online, everything gets recorded and people can laugh about the cringey parts.

You've been sperging out about pippa for this exact thing for months now anon, would you like it if japanese anons did the same thing to kiara? They have a lot of claim to talking trash about her, she's done a lot of the same things La+ has done to earn ire.

You wouldn't. That's because you think the attention kiara gets to her past is unfair.
Now look at pippa.
Pippa is still regularly talking about suicide, something kiara hasn't brought up in a few years now.
I want you to imagine you are talking about kiara when you say pippa, because in a lot of ways, they are similar.

Don't you think it's time to stop?
Because if you don't, you are also saying the people that hate kiara shouldn't stop either.
Reflect on that anon, do better

>> No.43519960

>>43519888
It's unfortunate but it's still okay to be retarded. Scurry on now.

>> No.43520076

>>43506396
Unfortunately nije did worse with zion

>> No.43520157

>>43519767
>>43519960
>re...re...reee... retard
great argument anon, you must be shitting yourself for losing a discussion on the internet, lmao

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>faggot OP makes a thread to shit on Mousey
>drama sisters shit on Froot, Kiara and Pippa instead

>> No.43520184

>>43519484
We've been having threads regularly about this that always have a healthy amount of IP's, don't be dense
Clip Watchers like the people that watch rev's channel still think ironmouse is jesus but I'm seeing a growing dislike of her because, well, it is warranted

>> No.43520247

>>43520172
It's one kiara schizo that can't stand that nobody hates on kiara now so he has to invent trauma

>> No.43520254

>>43501722
N

>> No.43520276

>>43519364
I don't care for Ironmouse but rev is right. Her arguments against Mouse aren't even true and there are people in her company that fit that mold but it's not ironmouse

>> No.43520418

>>43520276
That's just brittany venti, destroyer of women

>> No.43520616

>>43513517
Anon he said non-professional think like voms or FlaVor

>> No.43520784

>>43501722
Um… trannies shouldn’t be doing this as a hobby. Only white straight males!

>> No.43521113

>>43516209
Anon ...

>> No.43521258

>>43519500
T.threadreader doesn't even know silver is a huge fan of hp and used it in her childhood to cope with her abusive dad

>> No.43521271

>>43501722
I didn’t know trannies can own any hobby and call it their own… that’s why we need to gate keep everything from them. From anime and video games, because all they do is ruin it for everyone.

>> No.43521607

>>43486106
>twitch roastie streamer is a spineless coward
News at eleven

>> No.43521911

>>43509712
Well... you realise that just now? It's the price to pay for '"talent freedom" since you can impose thing you also can't do a thing. basicaly they just sell shirt using your image and do nothing. You know it's called a scam.

>> No.43524599

>>43512191
Small and non pro avoiding the game is because people like you who acting like fucking nazi death squad. Fucking troon fascists.

>> No.43524694

>>43513195
Funny you're talking about La+, she just tweet his first tweet after a long time and other Hologirls are welcoming her back.
Also La+ left and everyone keep silent out of respect for her privacy.
Also most of those other yabs are so mild. Can you even put something more rock solid?

>> No.43524758

>>43516744
lol do you even care about this Venti bitch or you just care because she's useful for you?

>> No.43524823

>>43519364
lol Rev trying his darndest to be on Vshojo good side or he gonna get Nuxed too

>> No.43524865

>>43519500
Most people are fine with the game
Also this is pretty much victim blaming.

>> No.43524957

>>43520418
She's retarded.

>> No.43525019

>>43524823
wrong. He said in the video that other members of Vshojo fit the description of what she was talking about but not ironmouse.

>> No.43526418

>>43486106
Why does it feel like this chick is involved in every 3rd or so controversy around vtubers that I hear of?

>> No.43528340

>>43524694
>are welcoming her back.
>I have yet to see anyone from holo SUPPORTING shion or la+ ABOUT UNICOR HARASSMENT.
also
>harassment of our idols is a mild issue
>2 yab that were trending topic and led to suspensions are a mild topic
>I can't justify them so they don't count

>> No.43528892

anon, this is the same bitch that hides the fact that she has a whole ass kid while spending nearly 24 hours a day larping some bratty ddlg demon oc. of course she's not gonna be a saint lmao.

>> No.43528908

>>43494450
Leftists truly are deranged creatures if this is true.
Imagine if right wingers had to throw a shitfit any time a friend enjoys something made by an artist who disagrees with them; leftoids cannot tolerate even a single one.

>> No.43529261

>>43494450
Is that somehow a defence? That just makes them all more retarded.

>> No.43529295

>>43529261
It's an explanation not a defense.
>>43528908
Well that does happen too of course, but the mindset isn't remotely as prevalent.

>> No.43529311

>>43494971
>got educated
I really hate that expression now, you don't educate people you publicly flog them to get back in line. Stalin-level tolerance right there comrade.

>> No.43529451

>>43524865
>victim blaming
Well yeah. Thats perfectly acceptable when its something they disagree with.

>> No.43529519

>>43529295
>but the mindset isn't remotely as prevalent.
Its actually pulled back a lot considering how much less overreactive the religious types have gotten relating to media. Living in bible thumping territory and looking for a DND group years back was something else.

>> No.43529671

>>43513195
>grasping at straws
it's obvious you're just being dishonest and arguing in bad faith, you took bunch of nothing burger that got easily solved and already solved by pulling simple apology and take a break move so there is no real reason to openly defend as the problem is already solved and implying others don't openly defend them means they are the same or comparable as Vshojo situation when one of them literally throwing other under the bus for internet clout and the best defend you got is a playing both sides corpo move, and this is coming from a supposedly vtuber group that claims they are different and not a corpo, also the huge contrast between Nux yab and this yab says a lot

>> No.43529738

>>43486106
There are no such thing as good vwhore.
All of them are just bad.
No exception.

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I was going to pirate the game anyway because I pirate most games I play and I got spoiled by a tranny so I just dislike them more now

>> No.43530506

>>43502328
She chose to be a cosplay bimbo in nihon-desu-desu land and did whatever it took to get ahead, getting a cheeky finger or two by some two-bit wrestler isn't even that bad of a "worst experience".

>> No.43531209

>>43524823
Or more likely Khyo'd lmao

>> No.43531230

>>43528340
Are you expecting open spectacle of support when it's already proven that they have internal discord to talk to each other in private?
They're not twitter clout chasers who had to say everything out loud so their dumbass followers can know when their "oshi" is doing good thing.

captcha OGY 28

>> No.43531283

>>43519500
The game is fun, it's way better than some shit like forspoken on a pure mechanical level and the level design is actually quite fun.

The cope of
>The game's not even good
Is such a pathetic cope it's unreal how many think that shit works when there's so much footage and so many people still streaming it. Story's a bit mid I'll admit that.

>> No.43531322

>>43529295
This one is ridiculous though.
They also made a simulator that show you what happen if you buy that HP game
A bloody simulator! It's so fucking ridiculous!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXOKdimGh5g&t=22s

>> No.43531387

>>43531230
That's the exact wrong move when it's a public flogging of one specific member in their ranks, if you want to show unity and strength you form a wall, if you don't give a fuck and then go to the private discord going "sorry bro" it's actually just straight up worse than nothing.

>> No.43531584

>>43508210
>>>/lgbt/
says otherwise

>> No.43531617

>>43531283
I've been enjoying it, the puzzle/collect-a-thon with a spash of somewhat involved combat has been a treat, and NGL, Might have nerded out a bit when I got my broom.

>> No.43531642

>>43531584
>Doesn't recognize a containment zone for what it is.
lol, lmao even.

>> No.43531703

>>43513830
>HoloEn being banned from even mentioning it
Gura mentioned being Ravenclaw in her last stream. More detail playing it in her previous membership stream. Though she's not a HP fan...never mentioned potter in previous streams and admits not knowing the lore.

>> No.43531761

>>43486106
Ironwho
Silverwho
Back to tw*tter with you this isnt the xqc website board

>> No.43531764

>>43531387
Shion and La+ honestly prob don't give a shit, but took the stress leave anyways.

>> No.43531802

>>43531642
cope

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>>43531802
Your location ATM

>> No.43532217

>>43524823
No matter, if slander lolis, expect Rev to come to their defense.
My favorite male vtuber.

>> No.43532793

>>43519945
>Kiara doesn't need people like you in KFP
no actually she does

https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1623625185411891200

Kiara actually likes KFP being overprotective of her and defending her online. I've been watching Kiara since debut and clearly understand her more than you do based on the generic empty platitudes you are saying about people growing from hardship. The fact is, Kiara though mentally strong and persevering is also highly emotional and sensitive and the bad shit that happened to her in the past affected her extremely negatively. The idea that Kiara would find what Pippa said funny or wouldn't take it seriously or that this is even an expectation you have of her is just fucking stupid and would be extremely out of character for her.
I don't know what Pippa has been through but regardless thinking 'well I've been through X bad thing and I can joke about it, therefore this unrelated different person with a different personality type should also react the same way to Y bad thing that happened to them!' is an extremely childish and/or giga autistic way of looking at the world that reveals you have the inability to empathize with/imagine a headspace different to your own.

>would you like it if japanese anons did the same thing to kiara? They have a lot of claim to talking trash about her, she's done a lot of the same things La+ has done to earn ire.
I'm not quite sure what you mean by this but the difference here is that the things that the japanese anons would hold against Kiara are retarded and morally insignificant whereas holding what Pippa did against her isn't.
>Pippa is still regularly talking about suicide
So therefore being shitty to other people is more justified? I'm not sure what you're trying to say by bringing this up but it seems irrelevant.
>I want you to imagine you are talking about kiara when you say pippa, because in a lot of ways, they are similar.
lmao no
>Don't you think it's time to stop?
As long as this place is infested with schizos who hate Kiara and will use her past against her and the likes of Pippafags and deadbeats continue to try to defend Pippa while she herself remains remorseless then I will never ever stop.
>Because if you don't, you are also saying the people that hate kiara shouldn't stop either.
>muh both sides are the same
retard
>Reflect on that anon, do better
go fuck yourself self-help larper, your platitudes are useless

>> No.43533032

>>43532793
NTA, but
>Kiara actually likes KFP being overprotective of her and defending her online.
Thats not only distinctly unhealthy, but only one step away from the very thing most people on this board shit on, the type of dogpile fanbase Vshojo and the like have. All it'll take is the combo of a bad week and someone saying something for her to passive-aggressively sik her fanbase on someone, and if she's fostering that fanbase, it'll be as shitty as the very thing that started this thread.

>> No.43533737

>>43531617
The flight system is so good, it's responsive and you just know they're trying to perfect a quidditch expansion later down the line.
It's too perfect to not implement. They even have the Quidditch court and the golden snitch fully in the game!

>> No.43533782

>>43533737
I didn't follow any of the coverage of the game before hand, but boy was I gutted when black said quidditch was canceled.

>> No.43533821

>>43531387
Fucking zoomer can't understand subtlety and privacy. Want everything said and explained in public like they're 5 years old.

>> No.43533864

>>43531802
lol as a brony I even understand that /mlp/ is a containment place for us over a decade ago. I guess troons are too stupid to understand.

>> No.43533904

Someone who calls themself satan turns out to be a bad person? huh, really makes me think

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>>43532793
Damn schizo posting went all out.
Don't read though lol.

>> No.43534034

>>43486106
Mouse got in early enough to make her weird fantasy about being sick work. She's probably too big to fail now.

>> No.43534075

>>43533821
You're supposed to defend your friends. But you're right, loyalty is not a trait women regularly employ.

>> No.43534099

>>43534034
I still don't understand if it's real or not. If her condition is true did she lives in a special bubble room that keep everything clean from germ? Or she can still interact with people without protection? I remember a clip where her dad open her door spraying some holy water. Is it safe?

>> No.43534129

>>43534075
>Blaming women
lol now you went to Andrew Tate territory

>> No.43534158

>>43534099
Well, she played it really rough in the beginning years and she doesn't anymore. It's almost like her sickness never gets any worse. Maybe it's all higher standards lof living streaming has brought her but that doesn't seem right.

>> No.43534194

>>43534129
Saying mean things is not rape, lady. Tits or get the fuck out

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>>43486106

>> No.43535035

>>43531230
>>43533821
BRAVO.
at least you know why we're arguing in the first place? >>43486630 >>43508128


>>43529671
READ >>43528340

>> No.43535328

Does anyone have the screenshots of what people were saying to Pikamee before she quit? I can't find any of the comments and I want to show a friend the harassment she received.

>> No.43535502

>>43487829
You will NEVER be a real woman.

>> No.43535542

>>43499386
You just did more to dox the vtuber you are pretending to defend than Pippa ever did.
I would have never known this was about her if it weren't for people like you constantly advertising the fact that it is.

>> No.43535594

>>43500869
>>43497770
Anon, it is very clear that you don't actually care about this beyond using it as an excuse for your irrational hatred. Very dishonest.

>> No.43535720

>>43535542
Shhhh, its only bad when someone I don't like talks about it.

>> No.43535770

I tried to get some screenshots from the girlfriend gaming stream but I couldn't find any hateful comments, does anyone have a good timestamp?

>> No.43537298

>>43535035
there is nothing to read, you're just a retard thinking those yabs are even comparable on the same scale

>> No.43537620

>>43499386
Kek. Kiara is one of my favorites, but this is pretty funny. Based Pippa.
On the other hand you, anon, should kys.

>> No.43537838

>>43518688
God you're pathetic kek.

>> No.43538113

>>43535542
I wasn't the one who was defending Kiara. I just really don't like it when faggots are proud to act like newfags.

>> No.43538904

>>43534207
>you can get beat up by people on the internet

>> No.43539091

>>43486106
Why does everything have to be about sides with you?

You're so childish and have the emotional maturity of a vindictive 13 year old girl.

>> No.43539395

>>43539091
She chose her position, people are allowed to criticise it. As she said, she'd get crucified either way so now people crucify her for not standing up to an old friend.

>> No.43539634

>>43486161
He did

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>>43538904

>> No.43539801

>>43539091
And the troons who terrorize Pikamee, Silvervale and other streamers aren't childish?
They literally wishing someone's suffering and death for playing a game. While saying that they're the one getting oppressed and killed because of a video game and a British middle aged lady who in actually never said ill about them.
How is that for mental maturity?

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>>43489943
Jewschiznia?

>> No.43540144

>>43534207
>this retard thinks he is smart

>> No.43541078

>>43486768
The problem is if you don't say it publicly people walk all over those you're trying to "stand up" for. Vshojo always does this whole
>Oh yeah, we talked privately and it's totally cool now no worries
And it comes off as dishonest, if you're actually coming to someone's defense you shouldn't hide those words in a place where nobody can see it. Have some spine and say "fuck you. Stop harassing people over a fucking video game" post it on Twitter
If you're a lifeguard and you see someone drowning you can't just dip your toes in the water and then make yourself out to be the hero when the tide manages to carry them in.

>> No.43541320

>>43497427
Oh please, Pippa flip flops on every position she's ever had and only does shit for the attention /here/. If people /here/ weren't trying to "own the trannies" they'd call it based that silver got harassed and Pippa would make a short mocking her.

>> No.43541383

>>43486768
mousechama...
take care of your family...

>> No.43541475

>>43541320
>anomalous would've surely acted like the voices in my vagina (formerly penis) told me if the situation was different

>> No.43541508

why is it when trans is involved, all shit hits the fan? there's no build up or anything, its either all or nothing.with the allegations and cancelling.

>> No.43541748

>>43541475
You know I'm right. Pippa is a retard who gets 100% of her opinions from /here/ and kf and then parrots them back to you so other retards call her based.
You can literally find proof of this when you dig into her past and see that her personal views are a complete and total opposite to the ones she preaches on stream.

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>>43495899
>>43496062

>Xaela male
>Claims to be groomed
For reference the edgy anime male race (granted they all are in XIV except the hairless gorillas and furry cat bara and potatos) in his avatar is notorious for always being shitters, groomers and the like. And it sounds like he was par the course. Oneitis for a fucking Vtuber god damn nigguh. I wasn't goin to read all that shit but it sounds like he was trying to groom her into being a girlfriend, not the other way around.

>> No.43542748

>>43541508
Evil preaches tolerance until it is in a position of dominance then tries to silence the good. They are cagers. A psyche ripped in two. The prevailing negative sentament towards it is just that of any organism getting itt's genome mutated with tap water poisoning. If the character so often seen was worth half an ass, they would be extremely heavily involved in activism against the New World Order, the tap water poisoning, and the meds. That the entire ecosystem of tomorrow might not be mutated dead with chemicals. Instead, they fight for it. For their oppressor, the United Nations and not the United States, advocating for more than two genders and spreading anus damaging sodomy, from a place far deeper than Stockholm Syndrome with petty extremism in all the wrong places. The baphomet is after all broad shouldered but with the breast of a woman. Their way of saying, this is our passive aggressive murder of you.

>> No.43543133

>>43499432
>>43504870
>>43499386
Am not sure if this is a poor attempt at trying to make me side with the rabbit by making people who dislike her come of as complete morons.

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>>43486106
Here, take'em.

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