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So apparently NijiEN went to japan and that's why so many were on break?If their concert is actually being put back on that's hilarious, jerking the audience around is peak anykara retardation.
>/#/
Marine is the queen of Hololive and vtubing in general.
>>43349135Weren't they in Australia?
>>43349128
Ollie tried to get the girls who don't collab with males to collab with them. There was only meant to be a mixed event. She was hoping that Nene/Lui/Gura etc. would just go with it. Not even FBK went with it and she had to beg Towa to join.
Why are the only apex tourney clips I'm seeing pop up on my feed is Fauna killing herself or Kobo asking if Towa likes to take a bath
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *>82,391: Marine (Hololive)>30,999: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>30,598: Koyori (Hololive)>30,188: Gura (Hololive)>25,421: Salome (Nijisanji)>25,354: Chloe (Hololive)>24,514: Subaru (Hololive)>23,389: Miko (Hololive)>21,666: Kanata (Hololive)>19,412: Towa (Hololive)>14,312: Iroha (Hololive)>14,025: Botan (Hololive)>13,612: Hololive (Hololive)>13,198: Subaru (Hololive)>12,839: Lize (Nijisanji)>12,811: Yashiro (Nijisanji)>10,682: Karuta (Nijisanji)>10,554: Furen (Nijisanji)>10,511: Nui (Nijisanji)>10,447: Luna (Hololive)
>>43348648Gura atlentean is her sex outfit...why do you think she uses that one the in her date streams
>>43348870Why are nijiniggers like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkMKuBCMv6w>miko already introduce her mom to pekora>pekora still not introduce her mom to miko>miko introduce her mom to suisei>suisei introduce her mom to miko and cook for them>now suisei's dad approve his daughter relationshipDid Miko manage to find her happiness?
>>43349300>82,391: Marine (Hololive)...>30,188: Gura (Hololive)>25,421: Salome (Nijisanji)Kek
is kaf suisei-tier yet?
>>43349300>FEBRUARY 2023 GOLDS1) Marine (Hololive) - 48,323 - Drawing stream2) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,371 - Pebot Minecraft3) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 102,840* - 5th anniversary stream4) Pekora (Hololive) - 34,140 - The Karaoke5) Pekora (Hololive) - 45,516 - Minecraft6) Marine (Hololive) - 41,228 - The Karaoke7) Mito (Nijisanji) - 72,930 - Tsukino Mito vs Kenmochi Toya8) Himawari (Nijisanji) - 57,917 - Honhima king collab9) Pekora (Hololive) - 28,944 - Hogwarts Legacy10) Miko (Hololive) - 39,954 - HoloCure new update11) Gaku (Nijisanji) - 45,052 - Pachinko tournament12) Mio (Hololive) - 55,820 - SMOK One-Block Minecraft13) Subaru (Hololive) - 93,949 - Oozora Police 202314) Choco (Hololive) - 71,876 - 3D birthday live15) Toya (Nijisanji) - 38,879 - Hogwarts Legacy16) Lamy (Hololive) - 54,575 - New outfit reveal17) Toya (Nijisanji) - 73,934* - Announcement stream18) Marine (Hololive) - 82,391 - PekoMari mocopi totsumachi>PER COMPANY12x: Hololive6x: Nijisanji>PER STREAMER4x: Pekora3x: Marine2x: Toya1x: Choco, Gaku, Himawari, Lamy, Miko, Mio, Mito, Nijisanji, Subaru>2023 GOLDS>PER COMPANY35x: Hololive13x: Nijisanji1x: Indie>PER STREAMER18x: Pekora4x: Marine3x: Toya2x: Kuzuha, Nijisanji, Subaru, Towa1x: Choco, Gaku, Himawari, Hololive, Koyori, Lamy, Miko, Mio, Mito, Nerumero, Nozomi, Polka, Roco, Suisei, Watame, Yashiro
>>43349194damn pekora has a huge cock
>>43349343Gura and Salome are old news. Gura could leave Hololive and no one at accounting would notice.
Iroha 14k, during Watame's timeslot
>>43349284Fugget about Lui/Nene/Gura, she couldn't even get all the HoloIDs or all the EN homosluts.
*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*>2/18 DAILY TALLY30,174: Gura (Hololive)9,418: Amelia (Hololive)7,985: Millie (Nijisanji)6,307: Uki (Nijisanji)6,145: Ike (Nijisanji)>EN GOLDS FOR FEBRUARY 20231) Baelz (Hololive) - 11,133 - Kinoko vs Takenoko2) Baelz (Hololive) - 17,434 - Ministry Host Club3) Amelia (Hololive) - 7,974 - Fallout New Vegas4) Ina (Hololive) - 8,350 - Acessories Reveal5) Baelz (Hololive) - 10,184 - Sausage Legend (w/ Subaru)6) Mori (Hololive) - 9,020 - CHADcast (w/ Baelz & IRyS)7) Mori (Hololive) - 31,776 - Outfit Reveal8) Mumei (Hololive) - 14,044 - Unarchived Karaoke9) Kronii (Hololive) - 13,735 - Unarchived Karaoke10) Fauna (Hololive) - 8,880 - Minecraft11) IRyS (Hololive) - 8,080 - Holocure12) Gura (Hololive) - 42,601 - Return Stream13) Amelia (Hololive) - 9,724 - Unarchived Karaoke14) Mori (Hololive) - 11,194 - Unarchived Karaoke15) Mori (Hololive) - 31,781 - Myth Offcollab16) Fauna (Hololive) - 11,754 - Minecraft17) IRyS (Hololive) - 12,370 - Unarchived Karaoke18) Gura (Hololive) - 30,174 - Reveal Stream>PER COMPANY18x: Hololive>PER STREAMER4x: Mori3x: Baelz2x: Amelia, Fauna, IRyS, Gura1x: Ina, Mumei, Kronii>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)24p: Mori21p: Baelz17p: IRyS15p: Fauna14p: Mumei, Amelia12p: Ina10p: Gura7p: Kronii, Vox5p: Kiara4p: Vesper3p: Uki, Luca, Magni1p: Mysta, Millie
>>43349408Pokobee's blessing.
in council, is fauna the only one who sucks at singing? or is it fauna and bae.either way, idk if it's fauna's voice, but it feels like the singing coach can't save her...bae can be saved, fauna jusg sucks imo.hope she gets better though
Cover started as a tech company but it’s getting more and more integrated into the world of Japanese entertainment industry where it’s (allegedly) common to prostitute your talents to rich businessmen (as documented in abgrund's work for example). How do we protect them?
>>43349353asking nicely, how many KAF merch out there
>>43349430>HoloEn has 18(soon 19) wins in a rowjesascan anyone break their streak tomorrow? anyone? 20-0 is ridiculous
>>43349430>2023 EN GOLDS>PER COMPANY31x: Hololive16x: Nijisanji2x: Holostars>PER STREAMER5x: Mumei, Amelia, Mori4x: Baelz3x: Mysta, Ina, IRyS2x: Vox, Selen, Pomu, Kronii, Fauna, Gura1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, Finana, Millie, Luca, Regis>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)46p: Mumei38p: Ina33p: IRyS32p: Fauna, Amelia29p: Baelz, Mori26p: Vox23p: Mysta17p: Kronii14p: Luca13p: Selen12p: Kiara10p: Pomu, Gura9p: Millie8p: Ike7p: Regis5p: Flayon, Alban, Elira, Finana4p: Enna, Uki, Vesper3p: Sonny, Hakka, Magni1p: Meloco, Shinri, Gavis, Axel
>>43349442Fauna has technically gotten better but if you're not naturally disposed to singing it can take years to get good with the right coaching. She's trying her best. But yeah with Sana gone Fauna, at least in Council, is the only one who sucks at singing. Then there's Ame for Myth.
>>43349442Noel can't sing but she has one of the best holo orisongs. A good music production team can work around the vocalist.
>>43349135That sounds stupid considering it hasn't even been a month since the initial cancelation.
>>43349430ToT
>>43349477We don't know if Ina will get the gold.
>>43349508I mean it wasn't even half a month before they cancelled it after the announcement.
>>43349442Bae is really good at singing, what are you talking about?
>>43349442Bae can sing, but her cover choices... are just straight terrible.
>>43349135They might have just already made plans for traveling there before the cancellation and then just decided to go there on vacation.
>>43349530Hilarious anon.
>>43349530Yes we do, anon.
>>43349530You have to be braindead if you think Finana will beat Ina with her SECOND outfit.
To think the maripeko collab was a 150k if not the cull...
>>43349530Ina is going to get 50k minimum. Who's going to challenge her? Luca with his return stream?
>>43349284I still question why she thought it was a good idea to schedule the thing at the literal worst time for most of the intended audience to watch audience.
>>43349430And the EN tally returns to be "Did Gura streamed?" tally
>>43349442>he doesn't watch council karaoke at holoexpo last year
>>43349477It's less that holo EN is strong and more that the competition is uselessYou can take Gura out of the tally and I'm pretty sure it would still be 18-0
>>43349601Cutest Mogu Mogu Yummy cover
>>43349442Fauna is bad, but I like seeing bad singers still try their best during karaoke.
>>43349135The concert is back. They were all recording for it. They're being silent about it since management doesn't want to jump the gun again. It won't be in April though but at least except it in the Summer.
>>43349605Gura doesn't even provide that many wins for the month
You know what, while news summaries are great something that doesn't require maintenance beside checking out last thread is even better since it allows any random anon to just pick up the slack for it! Hence behold, the new news format modeled after /vsinger/ OP:NEWS ANCHORReply with a short description of the news and a link to the source!News from last thread:>Sakamata Chloe hit 1 million and got some merch to go with it. https://shop.hololivepro.com/en/products/sakamatachloe_1mil
>>43349449We cannot. That's up to management and the girls themselves to not put themselves into bad situations. One of the advantages of having come from the ground up in popularity means that they don't NEED to sell their physical bodies to sleazy businessmen to get chances to earn a 6 figure salary, since they all already pull that anyways. If they wanna slut it up behind the scenes because that's what they want though, you'll never know.
>>43349326fucking kek these guys have zero TPO skills
>>43349403I'm pretty sure people would notice if even fucking Kiara would be gone anon. Hololive isn't Nijisanji where people can slip through cracks like that.
>>43349605Yeah. Amelia for the 18th and Mumei for the 12th.
>>43349591What even was intended audience?
>>43349442I think she's clearly improved over time. Her voice is also pleasant.
>>43349695The schizo posts and retarded shit in this thread doesn't make me seethe as much as reading those Reddit comments
>>43349590If he combines all the NijiCN secret techniques of clickbait + raids + instant recovery + Z + worm + bots
>>43349722homobeggers
>>43349592Not like nijiEN was going to win even if Gura didn't streamed her announcement
>>43349650Baffling post, Gura carries HoloEN, maybe Cover, in her back.
>>43349654https://twitter.com/hololivepro_EN/status/1626763431906021377> Gura released her official dakimakura for her 4M subs celebration
So I just checked archives and NijiEN thread.There's no mention about NijiEN on Japan, looks like our NijiAR schizo is back!! And start samefagging againHe can't spam shit yesterday because # have been busy with IPO and Yagoo tweet discussion.
>>43349801Gura does heavy lifting, but Ina, Fauna and Mumei are important cogs
>>43349722Considering the sheer amount of English speaking members there like half EOP watchers, some indo watchers, and a couple of JP watchers. The time though basically meant half the people who could watch is probably sleeping.
>>43349654Would be better if it replied to OP. >>43349082
>>43349650Just saying that you don't even need a shork for holo EN to winGura's main relevance is she's the only one guaranteed to make the global tallyNiji EN can only win if they spam megacollabs, events, or karaokes, and even then it's not guaranteedTake away all collabs, events, and karaokes all across the board, and holo would still dominate
Honestly does collabing with males actually affect numbers? Like I don't see pekora, Miko or marine loosing their fans but i can see Lamy loosing her fans if she collabs with males. I feel like as long as your content is good collabing with males won't matter.
>>43349564CopeThey were recording. Remember, everything was delayed, not cancelled.
Tempiss was a mistake.
>>43349695>i don't watch hololive anymore
>>43349135they had already bought the plane tickets when the concert was canceled
>>43349640
>>43349846Kek like clockwork >>43349874
>>43349852IRyS is a lot more important than Fauna
>>43349654https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1626915726727716865HoloExpo will have 3 Spwn exclusive streams costing 3.500 Yen a piece.
>>43349695Trust me when I say that if we could speak Japanese properly, the amount of Loli/Shota (and other screw up stuff) talks that Japanese Vtubers get into would have Twitter calling for Japan entirely to get canceled. But we don't speak Japanese and translators 90% of the time choose to not make clips or videos about those talks for obvious reasons.Culture differences are amazing
>>43349865Does Pekora even still blow kisses at her fans anymore? Miko has been on record she will not colab with the stars so she can't really take that back.
>>43349759im not saying she didn't improve, clearly she did.im just saying that because of her voice she can't sing as good or on par with the rest of her gen.more vocal training will help so we just gotta wait a year or twoif she even stays that long
>>43349788Which is even sader, lmao
>>43349874>They were recordingtimestamp of anyone mentioning they were recording?
>>43349933You're suppose to reply with and IRyS!
>>43349865Yes it affects numbers.The stream itself is ruinedAnd then afterwards some people will be hurt, some will be annoyed that the streamer knows it would hurt people, some would be annoyed about it not being what Hololive is about and some would just unconsciously lose interest
>>43349874I'm pretty sure if the thing was only delayed by like a month they would have said so but instead we have either Canceled or Indefinitely Delayed which means not happening anytime soon.
>>43349958>Did not watch her birthday
>>43349937Fucking IPOThey're being super jews.
>>43349899Thinking about this a little more, people used to praise Gura's sky high numbers and kept coping when it went down...But I feel like it was a natural effect of filtering all the normies that had subbed to her with her loli references and shit like the chum jar.The "dead subs" are probably people she filtered, so her relatively lower number should be a GOOD thing, because all of those that are left are hardcore chumbuds.
>>43349965Do your reps!>>43349846It's on archive search harder holokeks
>>43349905Amazing
>>43349965They're keeping it secret this time so fan expectations don't go through the roof.
Oh shit NijiAR sister is back..
>>43350021>>43350037Why do all the nijiniggers crawl out during euro hours?
>>43350008What? Is 3.5k yen even that much? People throw 10k yen akasupa all the time
>>43349937>All JP streamsEh, wasn't going to watch that crap anyway. I'll still be able to watch the EN segments just fine.
>This is who En management wanted to pander tooAlso this is how pathetic nijinigs have to be, resorting to outside the fanbase to try and get a “win”
>>43349989Any real life example? Did anyone from Hololive start loosing fans when they started collabing with males
>>43349965Rosemi's T3 mengen, as usual
>>43350061It makes no sense why they come here and spew this shit non stop. No one in this thread actually cares if they get the concert, and people are still gonna laugh at it getting canceled within 11 days even if it does come back.
>>43350083It's a ton of money if you want to watch all three. It costs an arm an a leg to even get in.
>>43350105Matsuri
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4J9iNk6vIbMshould hololive ban gaijin in their office and studio?
>>43350010I just think EN streaming as a whole has reclined. At least with all the projects going on HoloEN can drum up more interest compared to the utter dry spell that was the last few months.
>>43350085Yeah, I sincerely doubt there is gonna be any translation. The only thing I would be interested in is how they plan to make it worth the cost of admission compared to the free stuff.
>>43350090The gatekeeping is working.
>>43350105Mori and Kronii.Most don't "start to collab with males" after going through a long time never doing it.
>>43350010Her floor did go up desu. She used to drop down to 8k after game streams and the past few streams before her break had 10-11k people stay for the zatzudan
>>43349408I'll allow it since the sheep took today off.
>>43350083If you want to catch all three it's 10.5k yen, and that's on top of the 16k you'd need to pay for the concert. It adds up fast.
>>43350179They can't. They've already stopped being closed.
>>43350179California will grow larger.
>>43350160Wasn't that more because she kept spamming Apex for like a year?
>>43349361>2023 POINTS SO FARGold = 5Silver = 3Bronze = 1Pekora: 113Marine: 44Miko: 42Toya: 20Kuzuha: 20Nijisanji ch: 18Suisei: 14Subaru: 14Towa: 13Mio: 11Koyori: 10Choco: 9Korone: 9Wamy: 8Nerumero: 8Gaku: 6Hololive Ch: 5Nozomi: 5Polka: 5Roco: 5Watame: 5Yashiro: 5Mito: 5Honhima: 5Akari: 3Elira: 3Ina: 3Luna: 3Sophia: 3Sora: 3Kaela: 3Kobo: 3Calli: 3Hayato: 1Hibari: 1Iroha: 1Kanata: 1Meruto: 1Noel: 1Selen: 1Sukoya: 1Toru: 1Voltaction: 1Zeta: 1Hoshikawa: 1Maimoto: 1Lui: 1With this, Marine replaces Miko as second place, and Kuzuha ties with Toya as #1 male and #1 non-Holo.
>>43350233And this isn't even taking into account merch and stuff, this is just price of entry.
EN global gold THIS TIME for sureNo way JP can asspull another 80k+ stream unless Pekora suddenly want to host Sankisei vs Gokisei
>>43350321After what happened to IRyS 2.0 I'm pretty sure Pekora is gonna pull a full Sankisei collab out of her hat to beat Ina by like 5k.
>>43350299what happens if you reach 500 points?
>>43350290It can be bothBut either way no male is just better, dunno why anyone would do male collab if they are not interested. You can stop your begging now
>>43350321Dont jinx it anon
>>43346093Almost every poster in that comment section is has a post history of homobegging or nijifaggotry. Not even the normie regulars give a shit. It’s just shit-stirrers trying to get a brigade going.
>>43349537>>43349557Do you just watch EN?
>>43349865It's never because of "collabing with males" it's always because of breaking their established "comfy zone" into something uncomfortable for the fans.Mumei almost had this with the sudden Roberu collab, but she realized that her fans were not comfy with it and dialed it back.Irys had a revelation when homobeggars started shitting up the chat and went full unicorn.Suisei can still talk to and collab with males on a professional level because her audience has been trained to accept that she's an "artist" and so a lot of them are fine with it.It would still be a massive scandal if she announced that she had a bf though, because that breaks away from the "idol" part of her job which all of her fans support her in.
>>43350397Guess they got ran out of both r/holo and r/vyt and then went to some drama sub to try and garner sympathy.
>>43349695Man, on one hand I'm glad the chuuba community is behind Gura showing there is some hope in it, but on the other I am thoroughly bored by the twitter tirades being nothing more than a pathetic whimper. On a side note, I wonder how many normalfags Gura has converted.>>43349948Anon, plenty get translated and get traction in the chuuba community. It just doesn't see the light of day outside of it.
>>43350373I don't watch males I'm just pointing out that Matsuri basically kneecaped her viewership for a while because she played Apex constantly and basically isolated herself from the box until the Rust arc happened.
>>43350412Someone being better than her doesn't mean she's a bad singer.
i unironically have no faith that ina will win gold.when fucking irys was gonna win, pekora said "naaaaah fuck you" and BTFO'd irys.
>>43350426>Suisei can still talk to and collab with males on a professional level because her audience has been trained to accept that she's an "artist" and so a lot of them are fine with it.Anon this is the case for all idols. Anyone who throws a fit about her collabing with Inoue Taku or, say, Ina collabing with that artist on pixiv is just a shitposter who doesn't actually know what makes unicorns angry and just hears that vtuber fans get mad if a male is involved and is pushing that angle in the hopes of getting some juicy drama brewing
>>43350397>Gura daki is the thing that banish undercover nijiniggers, homobeggars, and tranniesKino
>>43349865no males in my girl idol club
>>43350440You know if you want twitter drama you can just hop over to vshojo where the Harry Potter thing is still going strong
>>43349905Don’t offend my Koyo like that, she would never be a nijinig
>>43349865Depends if it changes the girls' image. If it does, their numbers corrode. There's no single day when the "Hololite" NijiEN girls' numbers went to shit, but it happened, and it started shortly after the boys' arrival. Selen (bro) unaffected.
>>43350599>allows>t. seanog
>>43350654It's improved english it should be allows
>>43349586JP isn't culled idiot. Gura's reveal stream at "only" 30k CCV has more VOD views than the shitty Marine leech stream.
>>43350631Koyori fits being in Nijisanji more than Hololive.
>>43350679>2023>Still on 'le culled meme' cope
So what is the deal with Marine? She never streams anymore except to do shitty garbage gimmick streams like the one she just did or to shill something.
>>43350679
>>43350426>it's never about males. It's just about the maintaining the comfy zone!>It just so happens that one of the most important things to maintain the comfy zone is to never ever collab with men ever and never mention a men outside of celebrities or familycome on man what is this cope
>>43350574Nah it was Lui who did it by getting an insane funnel from Japan losing in the World Cup. Her 3D massively overperformed compared to the rest of HoloX.
>>43350841fat hag pls understan
Soon
>>43350397Why do I have the feeling that none of the people in that thread have actually watched Gura or Hololive for that matter beyond a couple of clips. Also making a thread in response to getting buried is peak hilarity.
>>43350841Is the nip version of the nijinigger cope about HoloEN not streaming that hasn't been relevant for two months now?
>>43350712Except the part where people actually watch her.
>>43350941Wow, they both did well. Good Job Koyori and Gura.
>>43350628Nah, I'm not that much of a dramafag. I just wanted to see twitterfags try and slog it out with chumbuds and the Holo fanbase, which is what we got but they seemed to have realize they were fighting a losing battle and gave it up too early.
>>43350841She even stole Iofi's bald hair styling idea. She has been insufferable lately and it's rubbing off on Pekora too. You see Pekora doing a lot more bullshit gimmick streams and leech collabs lately. Thank god Miko is still pure since she stays away from that clique.
>>43350913BASED BASED BASED
>>43350976You're supposed to seethe
>>43350941damn, that's like 4 times more numbers than nijisanji
>>43350994picrel
>>43351028Nijiseethe
>>43350941Coyote>shark
>>43349695>thread on /r/subredditdrama>dramadoko? i think faggots forgot the difference of drama and just being drama queens
>>43351028But I like them both.
double nijien 10k doryaaa
>>43351050IS THAT A
>>43351028>>43351053>>43351070kek
STOP LET ME GET BRONZE
>>43349206Luca abd sony didnt go. Were on australia still.Any person hoping for the concert to still go is coping. It might be added to nijifest as a side thing but it ends there
>>43351028YOUR seethe is delicious.Give us more.
>>43350941>0.1% difference This is the definition of 'within margin of error" Might as well be tied.
>>43351050MOOOOOOOOOOOODS
>>43351122Ok I'm seething, now what
>>43349865Depends on a lot of factors. What kind of audience have you built up? Which male is it? What kind of collab? How are you acting? Ina doing a drawing stream with say Magni probably wouldn't be that big of a deal. IRyS playing Super Bunnyman with Axel probably would.
>Euro hours>thread goes to shitLike clockwork
>>43351122Damn Nice job from everyone involved. Marine and Peko strong as always, King going strong with his HL streams, and Koyori and Gura both doing well too. Vtubing is looking good.
>>43349640>expect it on summerAnon nijifest is on summer
>>43351177Europe keeps living rent free in the minds of third worlders.
>>43350397I like how they call it "drama", when it's just a couple of people complaining.
>>43351136>MoE CopeADD IT TO THE LIST
>>43351177im sorry my marine lewds are dated
>>43351100>Im back
>>43351153>drawing streamThety are basically zatsus. Those are worst collab streams to do it.
>>43350200Mori's collabed with males since like her 2nd week as a vtuber. Kronii started losing her audience long before the Vesper stuff. Erratic streaming, long breaks, and boring content took their toll well before anything else could.
>>43349300>>43351240Guess I can post some.
>>43351028About what?
>>43350914Funny thing is, I think that thread is against the rules of that subreddit if the poster is involved with the drama they’re posting about.
>>43351257those didn't count and kronii didn't lose her audience that much
>>43350856Bae does not have this problem y'know, because from the start she had said she's open to collabing with males, and her audience was built on that understanding.Naturally there's zero pushback when she collabs with males.Same with Kobo, because she started off her debut by saying she wants to collab with Vtuber and fleshies as well.Ame didn't face too much of a backlash for her male collabs because teamates know it's always gonna be #Ameway and that she's contrarian to a fault (see : stopped Tempus collabs when her chat started begging for more of them).Mori collabed with them and absolutely no one gave a fuck.Kronii had problems when she started because of her retarded flip flopping and digging her own hole, trying to keep her gachi audience while at the same time wanting to collab with Vesper. Resulting in the spectacular implosion we witnessed back then, dragging even the management to make a statement for her.
>>43351274
>>43351028
>>43351215The europoor doth protest too much methinks
>>43351321
>>43351281Would be a shame if a nefarious group known only by it's initials, "J.G." got involved. Or not. Honestly it's too pathetic for them to bother.
>>43350574Well I mean you can relax now cause Pekora is on her chill phase. She want to play more Mario
>>43351356
>>43351177>he thinks there are any european posters
Interesting graph here for Chloe's 1M endurance streamPeak is obv when she hits 1MYou see noticeable drops around timeslot changes, except at the peak which coincided with such a changeShe continues singing until around the half mark, then goes to SC reading...for 4 hours straight
>full myth valentine's offcollab with 3d announcement and return buff - 30k>marine mocopi - 80k
>>43351390
>>43349430The only exciting thing for this, is if HoloEN can do a lockout on niji for the month.
>>43351434>Please for the love of god seethe! I need the gift cards!
>>43351281It's probably too small to even register with the mods. Though the fact that they had the bright idea to even put it up on that subreddit to begin with is absolutely smooth brained. Does what they posted even count as "Drama" because "I'm mad butthurt" about another sub's opinion doesn't seem like it would be allowed either.
>>43351136>30598/30188=1.013 or 1.36%>0.1% difference
I just find it funny that there is blowback on the Marine stream for all the leeching and then I open the stream and see all the classic mega leeches. Kanata and Koyori are such shameless leeches I can't help but hate them. Of fucking course it was them.
>>43351439
>>43349353bitch so salty she was forced to kneel to suisei for clout
Isn’t it unfair that PekoMari is coincidentally genmates?
>>43351434>>43351434>mocopi Only Koyori had mocopi, and it stopped working a few minutes in.
>>43351306Does she still menttion anything about Vesper. Not even Tempus want to mention anything about him except forced collab
>>43351519
>>43351391im a bong
>>43351434
>>43351568
>>43351515Anon, it was PekoMari who summoned her in. She was actually kind of hesitant about jumping in her senpais stream but Marine and Peko said there’s no problem, they even welcome her in
>>43351537Gura and Mori, too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vyIWT2gxUAHey she might actually get 5k since Fauna isn't streaming today! Or IRyS, apparently! Dude like what the hell happened to her. Last year it was decent stream ideas or collabs and this year it's just zatsu and persona. Can't even say collabs anymore because she stopped on her channel after the first week.
>>43351559I'll let you know if she streams.
>>43351434Kisses you
>>43351615
>>43351434HoloEN have been finished for a while now, no surprises here.
>>43351657
Why didn't they get better members for the ending stage on day 2?
>>43351122King got a z right? Vrabi filter gave him 31k, holy recline.
>>43351515It's a viable content strategy when people are too nice to tell you to fuck off and Hololive depends on seeming like a family anyway.
>>43351408I honestly expected her to get more viewers for it.
>>43351644it's cause of the japan shit. Idk if it was really the best idea. This should be one of her best months but she's spamming these zatsus and i don't think it makes her content look appealing to people that aren't already brats
bro, every time i see these low effort baits and posts im always thinking>"they are getting paid for that?"i get waaaay more (you) than those fuckers.my last major (you) farm was 20+mother fucker you should pay MEnot those low effort bitches that get like 3 or 5 (you).anyway enough anger, post numbers
>>43350941AIEE OH NO I KNEEL AND SEETHE JPCHADS Who even cares mate. JP has bigger CCV
What is the reason behind Yagoo tweet?Why he tweet that US sponsored question form in the first place?
>>43351821Yeah, I get that she wants to do it in February cause of the name and all, but I honestly think it would have been better to just make it a week around her birthday this year. She obviously doesn't have the energy or time to arrange very much good content cause of all the stuff going on off stream.
>>43351028>seethe that another holo is doing goodWhat am I, a nijinigger?
Peko>sniped global gold from elira 3d>purposely debuff herself during gura’s return, myth offcollab, and ina’s 3d>invites gura to her birthday liveDo we owe her a simple ‘thank you’?
Reminder King also have his menhera moment
>>43351846why don't you cash in your yous anon, here's one you for you, now go buy some big mac from it
>fauna was on towas team for apexYab fauna collabing with males
>>43351306>and her audience was built on that understandingBuilt so well she's the biggest runt imaginable. The kind of person that would be unremarkable even by NijiEn standards.
>>43351846Getting (you) is not difficult. Just say something slightly dumb or incorrect that everyone will rush to correct. But it is it not a good way to use the limited amount of time you have left in your life.
1.6k get
>>43351975
>>43351929It’s just some simple market research. Asking that question actually will reveal which branding is actually popular among Vtuber viewer
>>43351942Wasn't this a throw to foreign liver? Deron also said the same
>43351846you type like a deadbeat (black)
Current numbers. Now the Gozaru ended VSPO dominating dead hours.
Mori's apex stream got ~160k views for 3~3.5k CCV over 3.5 hoursThat's an incredible amount of churn and/or multitab viewsTypically, you'd get half of those views, if not less, for that CCV and duration
*FINAL FEBAERARY TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*>2/18 DAILY TALLY2,772: Baelz (Hololive)>STREAMS FOR FEBAERARY 20231) Baelz (Hololive) - 17,434 - Ministry Host Club - Day 022) AZKi (Hololive) - 11,847 - GeoGuessr - Day 163) Baelz (Hololive) - 11,133 - Kinoko vs Takenoko - Day 014) Baelz (Hololive) - 10,184 - Sausage Lengends (w/ Subaru) - Day 055) Baelz (Hololive) - 9,930 - Unarchived Karaoke - Day 096) Mori (Hololive) - 9,020 - CHADcast - Day 067) Baelz (Hololive) - 8,728 - Valentine's Roleplay - Day 148) Baelz (Hololive) - 7,109 - Offcollab (w/ IRyS) - Day 089) Baelz (Hololive) - 5,695 - Delivering Hope - Day 1710) Baelz (Hololive) - 5,636 - Holocure - Day 1111) Baelz (Hololive) - 5,341 - Holocure - Day 1312) Baelz (Hololive) - 4,937 - Minecraft (w/ Sora) - Day 0313) Baelz (Hololive) - 4,502 - Zatsudan - Day 1514) Baelz (Hololive) - 4,370 - Persona 5 Royal - Day 0415) Baelz (Hololive) - 4,332 - Zatsudan - Day 0516) Baelz (Hololive) - 4,303 - Learning Harry Potter Spells - Day 0717) Baelz (Hololive) - 3,796 - English Duolingo - Day 1618) Baelz (Hololive) - 3,691 - Persona 5 Royal - Day 1019) Baelz (Hololive) - 2,772 - Kureiji Arcade - Day 18>ABOVE 10K4>BETWEEN 5K AND 10K7>BELOW 5K8>CRIPPLE GOLDS FOR FEBAERARY 202301 -- 02 -- 05 -- 06TOTAL: 4>BAE'S CURRENT MEDIAN FOR THE MONTH5,341
>>43351975Anon it's even worseFauna met with Towa OFFLINEFAUNA IS FUCKING A MALE
>>43352010His only mistake was asking people on Twitter.
>>43351941We all know she schedule her stream based on the meme tally. Either she took it seriously or she pretend to take it seriously to mess with numberfagEither way she got us all played like a fool every time
>>43352065People switching between POVs.
>>43351306The topic wasn't "does collabing with men cause a shitshow" it was "does collabing with men hurt numbers"Bae might not have resulted in a shit show of drama like Kronii, but she has some of the lowest CCV and especially Sc in the branch and has since her debut. So i don't know what this is really supposed to prove. Did her stance cause drama? No. Did it lead to her being a terminal runt? Did it lead to her making less on valentines day than a random Fauna minecraft stream>Same with KoboKobo's recline started right around when she started spamming Valo collabs with the stars>AmeAme had to deal with drama and she also isn't a full homo collaber because she has a retard stance about never doing a 1v1 collab with a star. Something she has made her viewers aware of>MoriMori suffered some of the biggest recline over the entirety of 2022, impact both her streams and her music. The only person who had a bigger recline was>Kroniiwho I think has so many issues but collabing with men and the drama it cause certainly being one of them.
>>43351575Bongs don't consider their island to be part of Europe.
>>43351942Is it really true that Elira caused a little drama when she went to Japan?
>>43352145You're very smart
>>43352100If there's one chuuba who 100% has never been to /here/ it's Pekora.
>>43351975>a cute male that am willing to suck his ball and cock dry.
>>43351929so US companies can see it and try to get collabs goinge.gHololive X Lockheed MartinHololive X KFCHololive X The Pentagonyou get the idea.
vesper is talking about the EN sponsers. he mentioned raytheon.
>>43352065I'm surprised it didn't get culled to shit, Susan or whatever the new pajeet is called really hates multipov jumping and usually nukes those vods.
>>43352197Bro 5ch also have tally and it’s almost identical to us
>>43352000Tortuga....
Imagine if Ollie managed to get Pekora, Marine, Chloe, Miko, Lamy etc to collab with the stars. She'd be a fucking hero and I bet this is how she imagined it.
>>43352065Here's Towa, which I'm pretty sure is the biggest vod from the whole shitshow.
>>43352162Someone keeps spamming that but I've seen nothing credible suggesting it ever happened. Elira is very popular with the JPs and JP audience and that reflected in her much higher number for her 3D than Pomu and Finana. Speaking Japanese is a big part of that.
>>43352279she will never get pekkers to collab with her brother
Jesus Christ they've started coping on main...
>>43352328Yup. The concert will be back. I know it.
>>43352248What's different about their tally? No gaijin channels?
>>43352279Lol she can barely control the shitters and you think all the big shots of the company would kneel to her?They have big girls business to do, no time for a haha funny Apex tournament hosted by a 3view
>>43352328I mean they probably did go to Japan, but there isn't any evidence they did anything work related
>>43352286Yeah and she had more than 3x the average CCV for about 2x the view countSo still a lot of churn/multipov-switching but less than Mori's
>>43349865Ever asked yourself why Fubuki doesn't get First Army numbers despite clearly being First Army material?
>>43352197On the contrary, among JP chuubas I think she's one of the most likely to have visited at least a few times.
>>43352140Mori had an offcollab with K's within a month of debut. Her decline has nothing to do with collabing with males since she's done it since day 1 and has everything to do with her big draw, music, getting shittier as a result of UMG and her forgetting that people aren't obligated to love everything she puts out.
>>43352197t. Pekora
>>43352387It probably also just have a lot to do with the time of the tournament being shit for NA viewers, which means a lot more are gonna check out the vod compared to the JPs.
>>43352367I don't know why you guys celebrate Pekora ignoring her coworkers. Pekora would be top dog in the industry if she expanded her fanbase by including males in her shenanigans.
>>43352398She is the moral support of the team. And at the end of the day she is still in the 2 million sub club
>>43352328How hard can it be to provide a timestamp or clip? Surely they're not that unpopular
>>43352311Elira's 3D was heavily shilled by multiple JP senpais because she was participating in the Niji Mahjong tournament at the same time that her 3D was announced.
>>43352486picrel
>>43352486It's no good to spout bullshit you don't believe in yourself just to bait anon.
>>43352467also, her game content pretty much entirely switched to debuffs and she forsaked Minecraft.
>>43352328It's not unlikely a lot of them are in Japan, most were going there for AR stuff before the cancellation, so why not just convert it to a regular vacation? They might also be doing personal recording and stuff for their own projects. The whole idea that they would instantly turn around and re-announce the AR a few weeks after it's delay is weird and highly unlikely. Whatever issues they had didn't magically resolve themselves. If it does get re-announced expect it several months down the line at the earliest.
>>43351306>Bae does not have this problem y'knowWhat problem, exactly? Because the conversation is about getting shit numbers, and she definitely has those.
>>43352383They're keeping it secret.
>>43352429>>43352470Pekora doesn't even understand english.
>>43352398Because she's lazy, barely tries most of the time, and just plays what she enjoys.
>>43352584The thing is you can easily attribute Bae's issues with shit content + no sexy voice to save her even a little bit like Kronii does. Hell even Kronii suffers from shit content, not so much the male collabs, considering she still gets shitloads of money
>>43352551>If it does get re-announced expect it several months down the line at the earliest.That is what we're expecting. A new Concert being announced once everything is in perfect order and cannot be stopped. I am not as optimistic as the people who think it will come back on April or May but August or October is possible.
>>43352601She actually know more than you think. She just love hiding her powerlevel cause she simply a secretive person
>>43352601Pekora can understand written English decently enough. Enough to make out your 4th grade SEA basic English that's used here. What she has trouble with is speaking it.
>>43352660At least avoid Koshien if it come back
>>43352140Kronii's issue is that she barely fucking streams and on top of that, shows up on her friends stream as her rm instead or does patreon only streams.
>>43352707No. Numbers breeds numbers. Shill it during koshien.
>>43352279A girl just want to play games with her friends and this board treats her like a supervillan. Ollie probably had one of the toughest time in hololive after getting toss aside by people she thought was her friend, the finger shit, the face leak. Already feeling like she was not a idol due to her hanging out with males. Let the girl have her apex tournament she been trying to put this event together for the past year she even had a trophys and merch for this event and it could became something we all look foward to in the future when she irons the wrinkles out.
>>43351942Jesus this is the ultra menhera package and so damn hard to translate properly...> Even when you think "I want to get along", the other party might have people who they like more than you, and I may have just been getting my hopes, so I think "It's impossible" and keep my distance.> Also, I don't know how to get close to people, and my sense of personal distance always starts from "far" so when there's someone close, it becomes awkward.> And when it's about me, I keep looking at my past mistakes, get depressed and sad. It's hard, I'm gonna go insane.It's so vague that you can literally match this with anyone he's ever interacted with, and we have no idea what the fuck he's actually talking about since there's zero context.
>>43352636cope, people saviourfagged Kronii until she collabed with males
>>43352739Why don't you take a stroll through Reddit, nigger? I hear they're showering Ollie with praise there.
>>43352845Anon the moment Kronii does anything even REMOTELY buff she gets 10k+. Unfortunately she chooses to do garbage 99% of the time.
>>43352739
>>43352835i still think it's because of the girl that got mad when kuzuha and kanae stomped them when they were training for their lol tournament
>>43352897low floor, keep coping.
>>43352739Ollie... maybe don't do it at ungodly EN hours next time you stupid bitch
Posting screenshots of Hololive reddit is one thingBut posting Niji reddit???Pathetic!!! How low you have to get so that someone can talk about Niji
>>43352140> Did her stance cause drama? No. Did it lead to her being a terminal runt?I'd argue the lack of being entertaining on stream is hurting Bae's numbers more than her homo collabs.> KoboValorant spam, yes. Males have nothing to do with it, the problem is that her solo streams have all become Valorant. She's just going through the same thing Matsuri went through during her Apex phase. Easily recoverable if she diversifies her activities.> AmeWhether it's one on one or a group collab, male collabs are still male collabs, and those that are hurt by it would naturally get filtered. Ame's numbers are the same which means her collabs didn't really hurt her numbers.> MoriHer issue was the whole lean/cuckbeat saga and the unprofessionalism associated with it, as well as her getting a label causing people who followed her for being "underground" bowing out.She collabed with Trash Taste waaay back in the day and her numbers were completely fine afterwards.
>>43352328Why not china, to be with their fans?
>>43352980Before Tempushttps://vrabi.net/video/2BUWNbghnOUhttps://vrabi.net/video/2BUWNbghnOUhttps://vrabi.net/video/7aos02eiTb0Afterhttps://vrabi.net/video/GDrJvkG17dohttps://vrabi.net/video/otEL7Y4GkcEhttps://vrabi.net/video/7aos02eiTb0Stop being retarded.
>>43353045I blame Omegatroon
>>43352989?The main draw of the tourney was the cross-branch nature of it, and with JP/ID involved, obviously the best time was around those timezonesIt's like asking for MC sportsfes or summerfes or other cross-branch events to take place in NA hours when the vast majority of the audience is in asiaThe tourney was still shit and boring, but the hours it ran was not one of them
Why nobody told me that Subaru was using mocopi? gotta watch the VOD
>>43352739Maybe she can retire and find a better place!
>>43353128Even midnight EST would've been a better fucking timeslot than 2AM PST/5AM EST, my guy.
>>43352739The fingering rrat has always been pure retardation but>getting toss aside by people she thought was her friendshe did that to herself
>>43349194>peko is tiny>marine is even smallerNice.
Hololive is Marine. Without her there is no Hololive.
Numers iiiiis... Slow today toooooo!
>>43349284Why are seasians like this? Short, fat schizos who hate GFE but love arranged marriages? What's their fuckin deal.
>>43351127>on australiaThis the the most hilarious thing to come out of this whole thing. I don't know if it's one person making every "on Australia" comment, or if everyone who does simply has the same native language.
>>43353233It'll continue to be slow until Ina. Fuck the EST girls for not streaming today.
>>43353175>she did that to herselfhow?
>>43352739Why are all these ID whores obsessed with apex still? This a seanig thing?
>>43353118>selective examplecope and seethe homobeggar, her career is dead unless she dogeza's BEFORE whoring herself fully
>>43353283Chasing after a bunch of e-celebs that had nothing to with Hololive.
>>43352966qrd?
>>43353171Gotta accommodate for the JP girls or they will flat out refuse to join the Holo only portion to begin with.
>>43353233no one that matters is streaming right now
>>43353230>tiktok boosted kobo>tiktok boosted marinetiktok is the trend monster
Sure feels grim around this time
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Remember when jews where shilling her new russian whore? Well she completely fucking flopped:https://www.youtube.com/live/QyjUyzd8wgY>2.5k views
>>43352835Did he get in contact with Elira?Is he one of those who got offended by the foreigners' obnoxious behaviour?
>>43353283By letting grifters use her as an opening to get into Hololive. They never cared about her in the first place, they just cared about what she represented.
Didn't Towa only join the tournament some time after it was announced? How grim would the numbers have been if she couldn't make it?
>>43353557stop ban evading
>>43353045You are making a whole thesis trying to prove cross collabs won't hurt the girls numbers and it would be impossible to prove either way because there is no "Earth B" where you can experiment a girl doing it and not doing it and compare the outcomes.One thing is for sure: >in the frictionless vacuum of space, a spherical massless Kronii might have collabed and not have her numbers hurt.In this universe she just had her lowest stream on record very recently, and her floor dropped precipitously.Is it prove that it was caused by the collabs? Not really, maybe her most loyal audience, the one that stays for anything she does, ONLY JUST found out, about a year and a half after her debut, that she sucks at gaming and is monotonous and depressive in her weekly SC reading with those being two of the three streams she does I say that's not the case and that she alienated a good segment of her most loyal audience, hurting her floor, all while maintaining her image of "sexy voiced bombshell" to the touristic audience, keeping (part) of her ceiling.I say the same thing happens in every similiar situation: Ame has a piss poor floor, Mori has a piss poor floor, Bae likewise, Kronii likewise.It can't be proved that this is the cause but there are abundant hints pointing in that direction and even a simple explanation>lots of people watch poor vtuber content more out of attachment to the streamer than out of preference for said content>when the attachment is not there, they are not there either
>>43353374>>41662165
>>43353577Watching the jew try to recreate Gura like she's a baking recipe is hilarious>oy vey i keep adding former weeb personality+ loli model why the fuck aren't I getting a Gura!
>>43352075>>BAE'S CURRENT MEDIAN FOR THE MONTH>5,341So she practically did not incline an inch.
God youtube is so fucking shit man. Gura’s views on her stream and song have been frozen for like 3+ hours now
>>43353656IRyS has a pisspoor floorKiara has a pisspoor floorSo eh.
>>43353695Anon...
>>43353604Not that grim really. She def brought her own box to it, but her peak was inflated by>best FPS player thereThere's always a vacuum taking everyone up in Apex, and it's the guy/gal that's good and popular. See: Shu/Selen mogging Luxiem in all the FPS collabs despite their runtdom
There are unironic faggots in this thread that don't understand the appeal of hololive
>>43353783Everyone else there sucked. Do you think everyone would flock to...uh....Roboco if Towa was not present? Astel?
>>43353842Fubuki. Not for being the best (I wouldn't know) but for being the most charismatic.
>>43353669Her content has just been bad most days. The buff collabs just get cancelled out by the morning zatsus
>>43353670It's soon going to be 3 years now. Why haven't these companies understood yet that they're not going to get their own Gura.
>same game>same slotwell, numberbros who comes out on top?
>>43353669Looking at her median is a very stupid way to judge where things stand. You can look at her streams of the last 1 1/2 weeks and today and see that she’s relegated almost all her streams to just solo zatsu. I’m pretty sure this is going to be her like 5th official zatsu in the past 10 days, and streams like “learning harry potter” might as well be a zatsu too. Like yeah, your numbers are gonna look shit when you’re just doing solo chatting streams. Not that she was gonna incline anyways, but the point is that her streams — probably because she’s not even in australia and is streaming on a shitty laptop in Japan — have been ridiculously uninspired and have nothing to go on to make any outstanding gains for a month. Her only real “weak” showings were her holocure streams, but she was also overlapped every time iirc
>>43353947Anon, why bother asking, it's practically a forgone conclusiont. 35p
How can COVER fix their shipping issue? Those shipping prices are costing more than the merch itself. This will drive away a lot of potential buyers
>>43353922I mean the new gura clone is still much more popular than their other girls.
>>43353268If it's just some lone dude they've more or less outed themselves as a serial spammer
>>43352359They fold it more to remove impurities in the numbers
>>433540331 week, compare then kyo's ccv with yuko's ccv
>>43353987By standardizing merch
>>43353987Anyone who isnt dumb are just using the proxy services theyve always been using
>>43353922It's kinda like everyone tried to create new WoW back in the day - it became popular due to perfect storm of circumstances, that couldn't be replicated again. It was the same in cinema - everyone tried to replicate Marvel Cinemtaic Universe, and we all know how it ended. Every corporation tries to replicatre most popular thing at the market right now, but almost no one will be able to do it.
>>43353661doesn't make sense, I don't they were even acquaintances, much less friends.
>>43353987The only way really is to pre produce merch and then ship it all to a warehouse in the US and then sell and ship it from there.
>>43354114Kyo hit 1k on her debut 2.0. Yuko didn'tLike she's not a superstar or anything, but she will be their most popular girl
>>43354033Yeah, because she brought her old following + tourists, but that isn't saying much. That was built up at the height of the popularity of the loli voiced youtubers, and she wasn't really that popular back then. A lot of her popularity comes from Latinx people as well, which I'm not sure is going to translate well into this format because they were just there to be entertained at>ha ha loli voice singing shitty reggaeton
>>43353684Holy incline
So how much of Bae's personality is just a character and how much is it herself?If at all possible, I think it's time for her to admit defeat and realize that she can't do loud or energetic to save her life.
>>43354149I mean it's not just the circumstances but also Gura herself has a unique charm to her. There's been so many copycats over the years but nobody can really match up to her.
>>43353175>The fingering rrat has always been pure retardationIs it? The other girls felt pretty uncomfortable and she herself acted oddly during the stream. It may not be true but there definitely is something going on in that stream.
>>43354206Yeah I don't disagree with that. But so what? You're saying "when will these companies learn" as if they should be doing something different. The Gura clone wanna be still is more successful than NOT having one. Unless you think they would have been better off to not hire her
>>43354231ShE'S ChAoS BrO
>>43354189i mean if some watchers pass from one to another, not that they are comparable
>>43353719That's why it is not worthy discussing this with the likes of you.Hajime also has a piss poor floor but, like the examples you provided, stating that does not advance the discussion the littlest.If your only purpose is to say>you cannot prove conclusively there is a downside in mixer collabsthat's part of the post you replied to already
Did Cover mention anything about fixing the shipping? I mean they are going IPO right are they gonna do anything about the shipping?
>>43354288And Fauna is mother nature, yet she realized pretty quickly that that's a shitty archetype and switched to being a big sister type.
>>43354293Well I'm sure the company that hired her is really sad those numbers "don't count"
>>43354231>So how much of Bae's personality is just a character and how much is it herself?How could anyone here answer that properly?
>>43354275I'm saying it's not because she's a Gura clone, it's because she's been at it for years and because she started when her specific niche was uber popular. I'm saying you slam down anybody with a similar sized audience and you'll get the same results because it's not down to her being a Gura clone.
>>43354323I believe they had some point addressing that, saying that they are looking for ways to make it more accessible, but i don't have that part on hand
>>43354274i sometimes moan on the mic while playing with my friends and they stop talking like for 10 minutes, is not that weird dude
>>43354323They can buy Maersk and waive all shipping fees from the Merch.
>>43354056Heh.
>>43354323it will take a lot of time to look for a fix
>>43354362Iwas hoping that someone who watches her could answer. I know that she has her moments where she's chill, but they could be those "even energetic people slow own from time to time" moments instead of the "I don't have the energy to stay in character right now" moments.
>>43354231The real Bae is the Bae that can speak Chinese and into normie stuff.
>>43354439Just a few more Gura dakis and they will get there.
>>43354490So>kpop/korean culture>dance>...what else?
>>43354270>Gura herself has a unique charm to herNo doubt about that, but let's be honest - without pandemic (and other coincidences), she would't get as big as she is right now
Spy nanode.
>>43354231the real bae is outside of cover HQ and trying to rape roberu
About this whole "floor" thing, here is the list of lowest recorded peaks per semester for each of the HoloEN girls.Gura only had 2 streams this year so far so there is no sufficient data for her in 2023 yetHere is the list>format is>nameEn :: 2020 :: 2021 1st semester :: 2021 2nd semester :: 2022 1st semester :: 2022 2nd semester :: 2023 1st semester so farGura :: 12846 :: 8183 :: 9591 :: 11674 :: 12527 :: -Ame :: 3407 :: 2091 :: 1559 :: 1591 :: 1893 :: 4097Kiara :: 2364 :: 2569 :: 1795 :: 2749 :: 1577 :: 1730Mumei :: - :: - :: 1742 :: 1745 :: 3896 :: 3543Bae :: - :: - :: 1460 :: 1642 :: 2502 :: 2772IRyS :: - :: - :: 2816 :: 2350 :: 2980 :: 4440Calli :: 2923 :: 2209 :: 2459 :: 2987 :: 2390 :: 2649Fauna :: - :: - :: 1657 :: 2488 :: 3224 :: 4882Ina :: 7887 :: 5904 :: 5232 :: 3931 :: 7079 :: 6557Kronii :: - :: - :: 4094 :: 2567 :: 2341 :: 2293Out of those, there are only two remarkable changes>Kronii floor catastrophically collapsed>Fauna floor and Mumei floor increased significantlyBae had a little improvement, the rest wither oscilated or are batting at the same range as usual.
>>43354373Again, so what? You said >Why haven't these companies understood yet that they're not going to get their own GuraWell what do you think they should have done instead? NOT hired her? What is there they should be understandingThey hired a girl with a sizeable audience, she brought a portion of that audience and is their biggest talent. It's people /here/ trying to attribute the gura killer shitAnd prior to hiring Kyo, Yuko was the most popular girlSo tell me again, if you think it was such a mistake to hire these loli Gura clones, despite them being their most popular girls. What do you think they should have done instead? They're not trying to kill Gura. They're trying to simply hire girls that might be popular and the randumb loli niche is still very popular
>>43349442Are you forgetting Kronii? She's borderline tone-deaf.
>>43354578Yeah without the Chink hololive won't be as big as they are right now so what is your point?
>>43354601This data seems to mostly be depending on if the girls did a public watch along for most of them.
>>43354601Faunas incline is beautiful
>>43354700Or standalone super reading
>>43354601Kronii has an SC reading on almost every schedule, just like Ame used to. Look at their floors during those time. Most other girls very rarely do an SC only reading stream.
>>43353987Iirc Cover's financial docs showed that they're working on supply chains overseas
>>43354633My point (returning to the beginning) is that companies are trying to create another Gura, while not having history, situation or talent that could make it possible
>>43354602I am not the anon you are talking with and I don't have a strong opinion either way>What do you think they should have done instead?I say they're taking a huge leap going for established talent specially in the way they went for kyo now, and making more or less the same mistake Nijis did with iLUNA>hiring people for the prospective audience they would bring It usually backfires because a vtuber (and a "faceless" content creator in general) is more than just their name, and more than just their avatar.Maybe she'll reinvent herself in the new company and succeed beyond belief but usually what happens is that the former fandom moves on and refuses the new package, the new fandom rejects the inferior version of the former self and they're left with the worst of both worlds
Anyone else missed Zaion?
>>43354601Ina has always been EN #2
>>43354601Weird that the girls that have watchalongs and SC readings have lower "floors" in this highly scientific method. How about do this for gaming streams or non zatsu only?
>>43354772Didn't care about her before she got suspended, not gonna now.
>>43354712copegirls safe from male collabs floors inclined after homos came out
>>43354700>depending on if the girls did a public watch along for most of them.>>43354712>Kronii has an SC reading on almost every scheduleSee >>43353656, the floor is EXACTLY the audience of the content geared only to your most loyal audience, that's what makes it different from the "baseline", "median", "average" or other metrics that smooth out outliers.Kronii in particular, if a third of her public streams are SC reading, clearly they're a integral part of her metrics and can't be cast out.
>>43354601This is just basically "who did a watchalong".
>>43354798Yeah, this is a good example of how to use data to mislead people to a certain conclusion.
>>43354742i think popularity wouldn't matter if they make money, look at yuko's donathon
>>43354742With the strength of hololive brand right now plus the hype for EN3 you have a good history/situation going on. Talent wise I am not sure. Other than Gura all ENs are mediocre talents.
>>43354798See >>43354850 and the LEAST interesting thing about that data is the absolute value of the floor. The most interesting thing is how it progressed through time.
>>43354601Saplings get the rope
Pekora has a sub 20k floor. Embarassing. Also her HL stream is approaching her floor now.
>>43354918Fauna is a princess that can do no wrong
it's true?>>43354790
>>43354601>A 4882 CCV superchat reading streamDamn that's strong.
>>43354231The real Bae is mostly what you've already seen on stream. A young and inexperienced woman who struggles to moderate her energy/mood on stream and is bad at reading the moment to make the right moves for the sake of good content.
>>43354850The problem is that you are acting like people have improved their floor, when in reality it would drop right back down if they went back to the content they used to do. Like someone like Ame hasn't magically doubled her loyal audience, she just stopped doing her most debuff content this year.
>>43354928>Pekora has a sub 20k floor.True>EmbarassingNot really?
so theoretically, if HoloEN3 has a girl who is a unity fag like bae/mori/ollie they might get a higher in the selection process?
>>43354772>missedis she back?
>>43354602What I'm saying is trying to go for their own Gura by looking at all the Gura clones is retarded. The point is that the results they attain is replicable by hiring other talents who aren't in that niche and that the obsession with the niche is retarded. Yes the niche is popular, but there are tons of other archetypes they could go for which are less crowded and less competitive and maybe in one of those they'll find a breakout talent. You're reading too much into what I'm saying if you think I'm implying it was a mistake to hire her, I'm saying it's a mistake to focus on the whole loli niche in hopes of repeating Gura's success, something which you seem to think was not part of the decision making process.
>>43354992coping and seething
>>43354373Yuko had almost no significant audience and she still ended up being the most popular of idolEN gen 1. I disagree about the audience thing. Gura clones still do wellIn NijiEN's case, Petra is nothing like Gura. Her being "the gura killer" was based entirely on her model
>>43354992>when in reality it would drop right back down if they went back to the content they used to do.Isn't that a tautology?>their numbers would go up if they did something for their numbers go up>>43354992>she just stopped doing her most debuff content this year.The sample size for 2023 is too small, one and a half months. That's the clear outlier and all of them have room to drop their floors even more, given that it takes a lot of time for the semester to end
>>43354992No. If the other girls did watchalongs like Ame used to constantly they would get an easy 5k on every single one.
>>43355013Nobody here could answer this for sure and even if management considered that it would be trivial for a girl to make a white lie, do a song cover or group collab, and then avoid them 99% of the time.
>>43355068Retard
>>43354960No, don't post your bait here, nigger.
>>43354960Depends on how you look at the context. Initially SCs matters because Holos are dominating in terms of SCs.Then SCs does not matter because Niji dominates SCs.Initially Merch sells does not matter because Niji had an edge on it.Then Merch sells matter when they found out that Pekora Earn 1 million just from her birthday merch.Noticed that IPO is suddenly a good thing since yesterday while before this people blamed the "downfall" of niji and changed on company focus on the IPO.
>>43355092The other girls have better floors, the data doesn't lie.
>>43355127Stop samefagging, retard.
>>43349865It is not about collaborating with men; rather, it is about men destroying the CGDCT feels. Additionally, collabing with male streamers always puts you in danger, and they've even been known to bring female streamers to their knees because they can't stand that a group of female vtuber is winning against them. (see jun, and the Phase yab)
>>43354872On one hand earning money is great for company, but in longer run popularity trumps early earnings.>>43354882>Other than GuraEh, I think Fauna, Mumei and Ina (and Kaela for that matter, but we're talking about EN) have their niches and are good streamers in those. But yes, I think Cover should search among 2-views, instead of trying to hire bigger streamers. It doesn't always correlate to good views after debut - see iLuna. And those 2-views, even if they aren't expereinced in streaming may try to give their best ifir giving them a chance (and yes, I know that it's a risky bet)
>>43355046And there's other indies and corpo chuubas with just as much if not more success who aren't in that niche.
>>43351100Huh, why wouldn't he do his stream like an hour later?
>>43355013This has been my long standing rrat. I posit that the people who were originally being interviewed for EN3 voluntarily backed out when EN management revealed Tempus and the cross collabs started, because HoloEN was no longer the same corpo that they wanted to join. And that the nijimodel copycat faction has a stranglehold within EN management and presses applicants about unity in order to weed out troublemakers who would want to maintain the all female vibe of holoEN.
>>43354992Ame's floor operates like a dynamic system with two attractors in it's phase trajectory: months with or without watchalongsBut>/#/>knowing anything about math aside from basic statistics
>>43355184>have their niches and are good streamers in thoseThey are not entertaining >for youRealistically speaking they would be 3view at best without the blue dorrito. I don't really find any EN female streamers entertaining. They should hire JP for EN branch.
>>43355302Thats a stretch, they'd still jump in if only for the money. Maybe one girl, sure.
>>43351122Wow, even Mori was able to get a silver.
Holy mother of debuff. How the fuck did Bae nuke Gura's song numbers so hard she's had like, 20k growth on the second day only. Yeah I know song VODs suck now but 20k growth per day? On Gura's channel? I bet fucking Reflect gets at least half of that.
With 6 hours left to go.
>>43355327baffling post
>>43355327Half of JP were literally 3views or 2views without the blue dorito so I'm not sure what your point is
>>43351122AIEE NO NOT THE TALLY SHE NEVER WINS ANYWAY I'M A MAD CHUMBABOIEE
>>43355302>five career women are going to pass on the chance to become upper middle class in the span of one or two months and probable millionaires in a few years because management bugged them to do some dogshit collabs You expect me to believe that?
>>43355435Difference between JP and EN is that JP added value to the blue dorrito with their personalities while EN side you can replace the talent with literally anyone other than Gura (and Mori).
>>43355327>They should hire JP for EN branch.Yeah that went so well for Niji.
>>43349905Sugee
>>43355302Western women probably don't even understand male collabs aren't supposed to be a thing. That shit SHOCKED Kronii.
>>43355327>Realistically speaking they would be 3view at best without the blue dorritoFollowing this train of thought, one can say that any streamer in Hololive is popular only because they are in Hololive - I see you share Connor viewws on Cover?>I don't really find any EN female streamers entertainingIf none of them were entertaining, they would get Bae numbers, but somehow they are able to keep bigger audience, even thought they have been streaimng for more than a year.
>>43355537Kronii is clueless about hololive in general
>>43355505But...EN also adds to the blue dorito with their personalities too. By your logic most people in JP are also replaceable except for Suisei, Pekora, and Marine
>>43354960Thanks to Cover's IPO listing we know that Anycolor makes more money, but the margin isn't very wide. Since hololive has a fraction of the members, they have to make up for the lack of them somehow, and merch is the most probable one. But either Nijisanji blows hololive out of the water in one area, out of sponsorships, SC, and merch, or they make slightly more on average in multiple ones.So every holomem is individually worth more, and every new one added is a guaranteed money-maker. You can decide for yourself which model is better, but Anycolor turns a larger profit at the moment.
>>43355541>If none of them were entertaining, they would get Bae numbersthey would get far worse than bae numbers
>>43355527>Apex
>>43355527HoloEN fans want HoloJP but in English. As much as HoloEN fans hate HoloJP they're giddy and happy whenever HoloEN does something like HoloJP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9eB0SRc01Ioh this guy is still going
>>43355537Yeah, Kronii didn't even bother to learn anything about Hololive, evn though she got in. Remember when she thought Ahoy was One Piece OP?
>>43355537*western normalfagsEverybody even Mori, Ame and Bae understood that the addition of the homos was going to cause drama, Kronii is the only one that didn't expect that reaction
>>43355621Or when she had to look up who Roboco is?
>>43355594what the hell are you going on about
>>43351187>on summerHoly fuck
>>43355594That's what we have...
>>43355594>As much as HoloEN fans hate HoloJP????
>>43353669Seems like according to this, Fauna's incline began with https://holo.poi.cat/stream/e3WVi7azMAoand https://holo.poi.cat/stream/T7HY8ExrmRoEither way, she's been consistently improving since
>>43355585I don't think you understood my point - if they weren't entertaining, their views since debut would have plummeted to Bae (or lower) numbers. See Kronii for great example (which would be even more brutal if not for her avatar)
>>43355594People mistake "being Japanese" with having the talent and charisma of top level Japanese vtubers. There's plenty of dogshit boring 3-views in Japan's vtuber scene too, you just don't care or know about them. Just hiring a Japanese person guarantees nothing.
>>43355594Name one example anon because the monoply collab legit beat all the jp style streams. Their a reason holo en put out tempus 2 before en3
>>43355127A classic> Nijicope #07: Superchats don't matter, Nijisanji has more merch sales [no evidence] (>>>/jp/25750975 <span class="deadlink">>>>/jp/30117222 >>>/jp/31524177 >>>/jp/34129071 >>>/jp/34630791)</span>
>>43355327>>43355505Oh it's this guy again, it's the /NijiEN/ poster who argued Rosemi would be a 10k streamer in Holo >>43190507>>42975782>>42164686>>40629354
>>43355537Anon, Kronii didn't/doesn't know jack shit about anything. It's baffling to me just how little she knows about Hololive. And as a counterpoint, Gura exists so not all hope is lost.
>>43355736Nijisisters watch parties
>>43355537I think Kronii actually knew the collab was going to get backlash. She did everything she could to hide it from her schedule, posts, etc. Then when her fans started pressing her about it in her comments her first response was that she didn't have any romantic feelings for her coworkers. I wouldn't be surprised if she had a clipwatcher view of hololive like 'rushia got fired for having a boyfriend' or something.
>>43355579First few gen basically made hololive. I would say that you can replace gokisei and holoX with literally anyone else.
>>43355648Maybe it's just me, but If I applied for Stars (and sure as hell I won't), I would learn who my sempais are, at least some basic info about them (what games they are playing, their personality, etc.). In business where collabs between talents often hgappen, it should be bare minimum
>>43355579Nobody could replace Coco...
>>43354601>>43354798>watchalongs>>43354861>watchalong>>43355068>watchalongs>>43355311>watchalongsHere is the list removing watchalong (by removing all streams with "along" in the title)it did not change significantly
>>43355689It indicates trend, not pin point which stream helped her incline.
>>43355606>2 holos in the thumbnail>50% of the list is holo
>>43355751I don't remember writing those shits though?
>>43355819Exactly
>>43355689>Seems like according to this, Fauna's incline began withhttps://holo.poi.cat/stream/e3WVi7azMAoA bit before that karaoke, there was a clip of Fauna speaking about being fan of those type of bands - it contrasted with her current look and mannerism, so it creatred gap-moe moment and probably made some people give her a try
>>43355721VERSEn...
>>43355787that sounds like a lot of work. Would you do it if you knew the supas are going to rain down on you either way?
>>43355594>As much as HoloEN fans hate HoloJP??Why are /hlg/tards convinced EOPs are a mirror of their own twisted retardation?
>>43355837Bro you make the same dumb typo that literally no one else has made and no would makeGo back to your thread
>>43355888I come to this thread and literally every EN fan hates JP. I like JP personally so it is still aggravating to see how much they hate JP just because they are mad at youtube.
>>43354918Cope and seethe. Sapking and Hoochad run this thread
>>43355939No one here hates JP, the fuck are you on? Are you calling for the chumbud vs Nousagi narrative shitposters make?
>>43355631That was the most shocking part of that whole arc. I still remember remember stream where she was genuinely trying to decipher the issues her core audience had. I don’t think she was actually that ignorant, but was completely in denial that issue was as simple as “they don’t want to see me around guys” and tried to look for something deeper
>>43355127>SCs does not matter because Niji dominates SCs.where?
>>43355939>I come to this thread and literally every EN fan hates JP.Retard.
>>43355594>>43355888>>43355939I am convinced that the people who are explicitly holoEN fans have never watched a single second of a JP stream and can't name more than five JP holos.
>>43356018Kanatan?!
>>43355939bro you cannot be that dumb, are you really seeing the couple of shitposters having a war about sharts and gura vs pekora and believing that is a prevailing opinion?
>>43355884>Would you do it if you knew the supas are going to rain down on you either way?Yes? When I start new job, I try to do it to the best of my ability - no matter what the pay is. For me it's a matter of professionalism.
>>43356013*remember the members stream
>>43355939How fucking new. Go back
>>43355736>this whole post
>>43355868Aw man, I miss..
>>43355939You base your conclusions on a thread with just a hundred people in it? Spunds like someone barely passed maths.
>>43356034I am convinced you are a retard and a big part of the reason why this thread is so shit and proof not all tribalfagging is nijinog falseflags but genuine retards like you.
>>43355541I think the main point is people expecting them to be as good as what the brand can be. Myth sort of met that expectation (for EOPs, because for me I still think they are not as entertaining except for Gura) but Council did not live up to the hype and did not help to build the brand further. The person with the highest ccv (Kronii) literally hates her fans and just viewed them as money making filths while the one that really wants to work hard lacks the charisma and the execution. People definitely put a lot of hope in EN3 and let's be honest even though no one dare to say this, but I am sure 90% of people are hoping them to be better than Council.
>>43355868Fauna incline began to really take off in late May, after the scuffed ASMR offcolab, arguably with the Peglin stream. She had a whole stream of solid CCV stream with a lot of 10k+ after that. Helped that's when Ina started to flake out with health problems and internet issues.
>>43355386How does it compare to her Blue Archive cover?
>Views/Likeswtf is wrong with nousagi
>>43356122See >>43355751It's a NijiEN shitposter, caught in 4k
>>43356144>I am sure 90% of people are hoping them to be better than CouncilWell, I think only Fauna and Mumei are good hires in Council>SanaDead and buried>KroniiHates her fans, herself and Hololive>Bae Lack of direction and charisma
>>43355811Mentioned SC readings too. Not trying to “gotcha” here, but I am curious if that would change the equation
>>43355879My cute sheep...
Stop replying to the dude, he's going to start to use Bae to shit on other people again to get people to shit on her.
>>43356174>Helped that's when Ina started to flake out with health problems and internet issues.That's true - as a Tako, Fauna is my 2nd most watched EN talent (with Kaela trailing her)
>>43356251It would because the ones who's floors are up this year so far have not done an SC reading(Ame, IRyS, Ina - though Ina won't do them.)
>>43356251That would make it so much harder to filter.I'll eventually hand categorize every tracked stream, starting with HoloEN but not right now as there are thousands of streams to, at very least, take a cursory check at the title.
>>43356043Remember that video of her and Coco talking about how they couldn't afford McDonald's shortly after their debut? Quite a change.
>>43356332You can skip the partials for 2023 and check only 2022 and before, it has a much better sample size with six full months of streams
>>43356358Yeah well fast food is overpriced anyway.
>>43356250Mumei can't make any interesting conversation so she is terrible in collab. It pains me to watch her collab with Towa. Poor Towa has to find topic and fill the dead air constantly.Fauna on the other hand is a good worker but she treated this job like a better 9 to 5 job not a career. I think the real problem is none of the council really stands out unlike Myth.
>>43355939Anon wtf?
>>43356419>. It pains me to watch her collab with TowaYou say this like Fauna was any better today. They're EOP, it is never going to turn out fine. At least there's an attempt, though, which is what matters more.
>>43355974Copling please stop including other fanbases in your shitposts
>>43356250i think bae is fine, she might not be a superstar but she is good enough
>>43356477She really isn't.
>>43356419>he memoryholed the ORK offcollab with their JP senpaiFauna isn’t any better, if anything Mumei carried the English side
>>43356460Fauna really should do her reps, I want that Watame offcollab.
>>43355537>Western womenFauna and Gura exist
>>43356514What would you say is good enough?
>>43356580Someone who can entertain.
>>43356557Fauna barely gives a shit about JP, unlike Mumei for example who talks about watching them a lot
Oh no chumbuds, now Gura will get cancelled, harassed and doxxed after she tryed to evade playing HL, now what? >>43355064
>>43356557They're off collabing regardless of whether or not they're doing her reps. The other girls refused to go to a Maid Cafe with her and Watame will instead. It'll be a video like with what Watame did with IRyS though
>>43356638Retard
>>43356477>she is good enoughThat is not enough if she has no speciality or niche that she can call her own. Why wawtch someone "good enough" if there are better choices around?Bae should've gone Subaru route - playing classic games and movies/anime. As Subaru (and Tenma fro Phase) shows it's great niche if you can make it entertaining
>>43356681who the FUCK is tenma
>>43350628Is it? I thought they just cheered that silver went on a break
>>43356656>The other girls refused to go to a Maid CafeYou mean EN girls or JP girls?
>>43356681A fucking phase beggar
>>43356681>Bae should've gone Subaru route - playing classic gamesEN has tried this before and more often then not it goes terriblyI guess Mori's JoJo arc kinda worked out for her.
>>43356419>EOP struggles in a convo with JOP they don't talk much toDamn...what a surprise.Actually, after the first collab which was incredibly awkward, the later Towa/Mumei collabs improved a lot. I'm still holding out for more in the future, Towa is a good senpai.>9 to 5 job not a careerI'm not sure what the difference is frankly but Fauna has talked about long term plans so it's clear she's not planning on leaving anytime soon. If you're thinking about ENs using Holo connections like the JPs do, the problem is that Cover does not have many useful connections in the EN scene. Everything is over on the JP side. What has Gura done to advance her career personally? A lot of the promo stuff she gets like the Tokyo tourism thing are because she's the face of the branch, not her personal goals or efforts.Myth doesn't really stand out other than Mori because of her insane music output. Yes, not even Gura because if you're new to the scene like me a while back she was just another vtuber, just more popular than the others for reasons.
>>43356731EN Girls. Then Bae went with a group anyway after Fauna left.
>>43356681?? I'm talking good enough at a holo level, she might not be the strongest council but she isn't a bad
>>43356477Bae is fine for your 4th or 5th person in a Gen. If all 5 were Bae-level that's very bad.
>>43356709Tenma Maemi from Phase connect - Japanese lolibaba fox speaking ESL and trying Western entertainment - she's playing KOTOR, VtM:B, played South Park, etc. Because of that, she's been slowly inclining
>>43356681anon, Subaru plays JRPGs to an audience of 20,000, something literally impossible for any EN.
>>43356759>Cover does not have many useful connections in the EN sceneThey should let the girls collab with girls from other corpo like niji more, just like their JP counterparts.
>>43355689>https://holo.poi.cat/stream/T7HY8ExrmRoI started watching her because this stream lol
>>43356818Thanks shill, I'll be sure to block her channel
>>43356612I'm pretty sure Fauna has made tons of references to stuff JPs have done before in streams and otherwise.
Phase Connect releasing gen 3 before HoloEN. kek
>>43356743I think Bae being literal Zoomer may have been an asset in contrast to Myth member that have been trying to do it.
>>43356852kek
>>43356205And People think Koyori wasn't a good hire. Chloe and Koyori were slam dunks. Iroha is coming into her own too. HoloX isn't the strongest gen but they're not weak.
>>43356852NTA but youre trying too hard. Tenma is fine
>>43356681>if you can make it entertainingBae can't. That's her main flaw, she's just a normal person. She doesn't possess a unique outlook that fascinates others and she doesn't have the quick wit to turn something into content.
>>43356825Last time I checked Subaru had ~10k people watching her
>>43356612Fauna wants to do a 3D treadmill reading stream because she was watching Koyori doing it
>>43356825His point is that Bae is enough of a zoomer that she can get similar buffs that Subaru gets for playing classic otaku media because she'll have novel reactions to it since it was before her time. Obviously you have to change which game you're playing to suit the taste of your audience with Eastern vs Western, but there's plenty of classic games that people would tune into watch Bae's first time interacting with.
>>43356825But Subaru's whole shtick is not being familiar with straples of Japanese anime/games. JRPGs are just a part of it. For EN equivalen it would be something like playing Baldur's Gate or KOTOR
>>43356843Who is this cutie?
>>43356961an EN playing Baldur's Gate or KOTOR would probably manage to achieve the first sub 1k Stream.
>>43356841I presume he means the wider EN entertainment scene - there's nothing worthwhile to be taken from the EN vtuber scene specifically.
>>43356948She's also made references to Aki's Peloton streams a while back. I'm not sure how people still try to push this rrat.
>>43349513Saw those reddit threads shared from last thread, cool to think many people making up rrats about a daki that Gura anticipated for months. As if "if there is no drama, lets make it a drama"
>talk shit about a holo>"b-but how about you check my 3view from [insert minor corpo]!"AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>43356961Boo!
>>43355811Hmm, Ame's >1893was a SC reading directly overlapped by CouncilRyS exploring Sana's tower (probably guerilla as well) for the entirety of it's duration.Such type of data seems to be a little too much context-dependent to be somewhat infromative.
>>43356852>Thanks shill, I'll be sure to block her channelReally great loss to not have you shit in her chat sister.
>>43356883Being a zoomer can be an asset, there are plenty of zoomers watching Hololive and they could use someone that panders to their experiences. The problem is that Bae isn't just a zoomer; she's completely sheltered, absolutely ignorant of western pop culture to the point where even the older members are more in touch with the youth than her
>>43356843based
>>43357077At least everyone does do dedicated SC readings, so it's....fair-ish for finding a floor. Except Ina.
>>43357077>Such type of data seems to be a little too much context-dependent to be somewhat infromative.It's a rough sketch, not a doctoral thesis. I'm sure if I dock that one another one 17 CCV above it will pop in its place.
>>43357050The funniest rrat was the one that claimed she was forced by management to release the daki against her will. Do those retards even watch at least clips?
>>43357008I think there is more that enough people watching Hololive that played those games at premiere, that would watch someone trying them for the first time
>>43357077Truth is floors are pretty much useless data and only saplings care about them because it's the only thing Fauna has going for her I've seen Koyori with 3k viewers, so what? Does that mean Fauna > Koyori?
>>43357008>an EN playing Baldur's Gate or KOTOR would probably manage to achieve the first sub 1k Stream.Fauna wants to play the new Baldurs when it's done...
>>43357213hopefully she'll drop it after a few parts
>>43357202>Does that mean Fauna > Koyori?Yes
>>43357202>Does that mean Fauna > Koyori?Yeah?
>>43357202I bet that sounded less schizo in your head than out loud, that's for sure.You might be the first one in the thread trying to use that metric to compare chuubas, instead of simply looking at it and comparing the girl with her past results
>>43357213thats gonna be GRIM
>>43357250>>43357261Coplings...
>>43357132How many variations has this drawing?
>>43357250>>43357261Fauna > Koyori > Lamy > Fauna, that's the cycle of the Lamys!
>>43357272Faunaschizo has nothing in his head but saplings
>>43357160Has Gura ever done one?
>>43357202Yes
>>43357313yes
>>43357313There's at least over 50
>>43356358So happy for Kanata, that girl went from feeling overshadowed and not good enough for Hololive to pulling 20k streams and giving best sololives
2k get
>>43357312You retards don't even know what makes a Lamy a Lamy.
>>43357272Don’t be coy, the topic of “this chuuba had a stronger floor than this chuuba” has come up plenty of times
>>43357169Actually, no, if you ditch that one, you'll get>2490Which is much more in line with previous results.
Did Ame and Zeta just get bored or something?
>>43357213Fauna is not actually going to play a game that will take that long to beat.
>>43357462Skyrim.........
I think a more useful way to look at it is instead of floors to look more at dedicated fans and try to get a general picture of how well the girls perform generally on nonbuff content instead of just looking at their absolute floors.
>>43357472takes less time to beat then a Larian game
>>43357312they're like an inverted pokemon starter triangle
>>43357478Who cares, ceilings are and have always been more important
Do we know what time or what game Mumei is playing with Haachama today? Did chama say anything about it?>>43357454Ame said her hard drive space went to 0
>>43356013i got a a laugh from the whiplash of having the fucking daki coming out and her being absolutely clueless about her audience
>>43357454The laptop died according to their twitter.
>>43357519For this thread sure. But if you are talking on streaming on a day-to-day basis your dedicated audience is gonna be more important than what you can pull on events.
>>43357586lol
>>43356886Anon, there was never a moment where holoX weren’t going to succeed. People are tired/annoyed because people act like they were normal hires that made it big. Like dude they were given the biggest debuts in vtuber history, they had the most budget put into their debuts out of arguably anyone in history, they had multiple covers already released a week into debut, 30+ other girls promoting them, and most of all, they already had a past being vtubers and months of prep leading up to their debuts in the biggest branch in all of vtubing. Like just use Bronny James as a perfect example of this. Yes, he needs to work hard anyways to make it into the NBA. Yes, he can’t just coast on name alone. Yes, there needs to be effort put in. But the fact of the matter is, his father is the 2nd greatest basketball player ever, who is a billionaire, who’s the biggest name in all of sports next to Messi/Ronaldo right now, who can get him the best training out there, the best college out there, the best anything out there for him to succeed. And so long as he shows any sort of success, he WILL get onto a team just because of his dad.You see what we’re getting at here? They work hard, but people think that hard work is what’s carried them. They were spoiled from the moment they joined because no one else got the same treatment as they did, not in any agency periord
>>43357586It's still meaning less without context. What's worse? Kronii getting 2900 on an SC reading while overlapped by Fauna, Bae, Ame, and IRyS, or IRyS and Mumei not getting 5k on Geoguessr while overlapped by only one stream?
>>43357213Fauna says she wants to play a lot of things
>>43357519>>43357586>floor vs ceiling timeloop againWell at least it’s a timeloop related to numbers. Both are important but ceilings are more important are usually correlated directly to popularity[/spoiler{
>>43356886>conveniently forgetting that one of their members has been MIA for over 2 months
>>43357661Mass Effect WILL happen
Kronii's outfit reveal was higher than Fauna's right?
>>43357008People in this thread genuinely don’t know how fucking niche Baldur’s Gate is, and how absurdly dated it is right now lmao like actual fans don’t even recommend that game to people anymore because of how jank it is. Now baldur’s gate 3 would be cool and fun to watch, but it’s not even remotely popular in that manner that’d get big views
>>43357658cope
>>43357702>MIAShe's been on official leave.
>>43357741what happened to it?
>>43357741A BG3 collab would be the only Baldur's gate content worth streaming. And only one POV
>>43357702Yeah, Laplus is one of the worst busts of all time. All the skills and a perfect design but none of the mental makeup of a champion. If she had her head on straight she'd be a top performer.
>>43357736Yes, even the most fervent /#/ sapling won’t deny that Kronii has a higher ceiling than Fauna
>>43357813So Kronii is more popular than Fauna right?
Today you will see the actual Tempus numbers without the raids
>>43357786>All the skillsShe was always bad just riding on design alone.
>>43357520Chama hasn't said, but she has a news stream in about three hours. COLLEGE GIRL WAR is news.
>>43357657>Lebron James named his son "Bronny"I fucking can't
>>43350628did they really turn on her because she's a literal who?
>>43357844
>>43357736Kronii probably has the second or third highest ceiling in holoEN, she just refuses to take advantage of it most of the time.
>>43357786Waste of good avatar - and a loli one to boot.Same situation (albeit with less skills) with Kronii - great avatar, terrible hire
>>43357844Always has been.
>>43357736>Kronii's outfit reveal was higher than Fauna's right?True.>>43357813>Yes, even the most fervent /#/ sapling won’t deny that Kronii has a higher ceiling than FaunaAlso true.There is also a nuance>Kronii barely matched her CCVID previous outfit reveal>Fauna significantly improved on hers
>>43357786I'm actually curious if she will be able to resolve that when she returns
>>43357865I'll take that as a yes
>>43357657So you're saying that if gen 1 debuted now they'd all automatically surpass sankisei in popularity?
>>43357658Literally nobody gives a fuck about Fauna.
>>43357881Fauna wasn't affected by CCVID though
>>43357889Numbers have literally been posted in this thread and you just exposed yourself as a coping kronie kek
>>43357844She has more casual fans, and can draw in more tourists and JOPs, so yeah
>>43357881so fauna converted more tourists
>>43357916kek, I don't know if you realize this but if that would be true that would make the comparison even more lopsided AGAINST Kronii
>>43357921copling-chama...
>>43357844Yes, and likely always will be. Her problem is taking her mindshare and actually getting good ccv for her normal content
>>43357657The exact thing you said can be said for every single branch past gen 3. In fact Myth and Council and the best examples of this, zero talent whatsoever just completely carried by the funny Miko/Korone clips that came before them.
>>43357976
>>43357972I'm just saying she had the standard recovery wait time
>>43357882If she returns. >>43357867>>43357849Great singing voice, good dancer, great at playing off chat, and is generally entertaining in non-FPS streams. She was integrating herself well with other holos at first. No, she is a good talent. A terrible hire though. Like if they put someone half as talented but was willing to actually do the right things it wouldn't be as bad.
Was hoping some #bros might enlighten me on what buff AZKi has unlocked of late. I figured the redesign and move over to Hololive proper would boost her numbers for a time but I've been perplexed at how consistently strong she has remained for a long time. She is arguably one of the top 5 fastest growing JP members and her CCV is crazy ever since this re-debut as well. What went right for her where others have failed to gain a second wind?
>>43357914The comment you replied to was talking about Kronii & Mumei. Why are you so obsessed with Fauna?
>>43358007Isn't she doing a lot of main channel content? I kinda get the feeling that she might be trying to latch on to doing that instead of streaming
>>43358002Anon, my point is that this new information of yours makes Fauna's feat even more impressive because it means she really picked up 8k more people instead of just being CCVID debuffed in the first outfit whiel Kronii stagnated at her numbers
>>43358054>my point is that this new information of yours makes Fauna's feat even more impressivelmao
>>43357844Yes, Kronii always had the opportunity to be EN 2# with some effort and yet she did her absolute fucking best to sabotage herself. And in the long run slow and steady wins the race, I mean look at Mori she went from being the second biggest Vtuber in the world to a Kiara tier shitter who is kept alive by that lucky UMG break. Kronii is literally a budget Mori without the music career.
>>43357696I guess it's preferable to most non-numbers-related timeloops. I prefer the "Towa and Mumei have the best kimono designs" timeloop, myself.
>>43358017Pekora.
>>43358077He's overdoing it with the praise but he's not entirely wrong. Fauna was that low even with the relay, but she was standalone here and got higher. Usually subsequent outfit reveals get less and less views, not more. Look at Myth as an example.
>>43358017She got a lot of eyes moving over to Hololive proper, which was her first incline. Recently she has been giga buffed by Geoguesrr cause she is extremely good at it.
>>43358047>Isn't she doing a lot of main channel contentShe was focused on that, but nowadays she's absent even from that.I think many people were put off with La+ treating her own channel as an afterthought
>>43358114I don't think you understand what "timeloop" means
Kronii is the marque player you wheel out to draw a big crowd once in a while. Fauna is the consistent player you put in your squad every week because you know she'll do the job competently
my cute wife
Fauna is an shining example that any of the girls can improve their numbersMaybe your oshi should learn from her
It's over holokeks.
>>43358017AZKi was always famous, she was a big NND singer outside of Hololive, she just didn't stream often and her model was ugly. Recently she had her formal introduction to the company, got a redesign and has been showing up in events and collabs, so she is starting to climb to her natural level of talent vs popularity.
>Fauna vs Kroniinijiniggers' ultimate weapon
>>43358007>she is a good talentI didn't say anything like that - just that godd model was wasted on her, leaving even less lolis in Hololive to watch
>>43358017She started streaming Geoguessr which she actually enjoys playing and sounds like an infectiously enthusiastic geography teacher while at it. That, and INNK was a debuff and moving to Hololive proper got new ears on her, singing she already knew how to do.
>>43358017AZKi has always had good growth whenever she streamed, but has her attention split between doing too many things to be able to do so regularly, especially for the last year with her roommate having multiple in person Lives. Thankfully she found something in the form of Geoguesser that she enjoys streaming and has the time to do so, especially since if she's doing a challenge round she doesn't have to interact with chat which has always been something that she's struggled to handle since she's not a big boisterous personality like most streamers.
>>43358202I don't a troll can be more obvious than this.
Can we talk about Tempus like the gold old times bros…?
>>43358214except nobody here defends kronii, what kind of angle is this
No one has ever said that floors are more relevant that ceilings because they obviously are not, just that Fauna is the third strongest Council and she has a good floor
>>43358202Excellent, this and the cunnygate will help gatekeeping even harder.
>>43358273YWNBAW Omega
>>43358266 (me)>I don't a trollI can't type words either I guess
>>43342587How fucking ignorant you have to be. Kotoka alone have done more than 15 collabs with JP members since she debuted>>43343767You shouldn't look at /nijien/ and think that thread represents anything. That thread is the only place who hates her, in the fanbase in general shes liked a lot.
>>43358202Frankly that post is too heavy-handed even for those retards. They may take some potshots in their thread but they know they can’t do anything
>>43358279insulting two also works
>>43358273That image is vomit inducing
>>43358329>Crossposting a 6 hours old post about a literal whokys
>>43358202pretty sure this is shadowbanned or deleted i didnt see it or im fucking blind
>>43358329>Replying to 6 hour old posts to seetheWowee
>>43358176Kronii is the soccer player in the team that is completely useless 9/10 games but then has a world class game and everyone forgets about it until a few games after. Then rinse and repeat for their whole career
>>43358410Tried looking up the user and it doesn't exist anymore so yeah it's gone one way or another.
So where the fuck is Kronii anyway?>only EN to skip Japan>completely skipped Valentine>surgery was actually pushed backso she just fucked off randomly without telling anything? At this point the only people left who support this trashbag are homobeggars and nijisisters using her as a Trojan horse.
>>43358463My best guess is that she flew out to the States for her surgery that got pushed back and decided to stay there until it happens. She probably also needs to be in the states to record her fes performance.
>>43358463she fucked off for about a month last year around this time as well when her PC was shitting itself
>>43358515kek
>>43358410Just search this on google>1154qj1
>>43358515ARE THOS-
>>43358463>the only people left who support this trashbag are homobeggars and nijisisters using her as a Trojan horse.Nah her fans are actually genuinely mentally ill and needy but refuse to go someone who would actually scratch the itches they want because they're not as mentally ill as they are.
>>43358510>needs to be in the states to record her fes performanceThe fuck am I reading?
>>43358202>0 comments in an hour
>>43358212I see, I didn't realize she had a backhistory that amazing on NND. Is there any other Hololive members that were prominent on NND that for whatever reason haven't taken off like AZKi did and just awaiting for that right moment/event to happen?
HOLY FUCK!>Kaela explains the Real Reason why her Manager limited her streams back thenhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQcsXiWbKpgLong story short: in the first three months of her Holo career Kaela STILL FUCKING HELD A FULL TIME IN PERSON JOB, and found the time to put out between 100 and 120 streams!Here is the transcriptChat Question>Do you feel like your life is enriched thanks to Hololive?Kaela:>OF COURSE! Of course, Hololive kind of saved me A LOT, a lot, a lot...>Before I joined Hololive I worked... I worked... in a place that...>Actually the place is not bad at all, actually>But, it's just>It's just not my thing!>I worked from morning to evening, every single day from Monday do Saturday, even...>Let me tell you something>The reason why I, at my very first three months of debut, I think, I have never streamed in the morning, only at night>It's because>I STILL WORKED!*(autistic blacksmith silent laughter)*>Even on Saturday!>And now you know, right guys? Now you know!>I never talked about that before and, yeah>A lot of people thoguht that I actually was a full time streamer on Hololive since the start>NO!>YOU'RE WRONG!>That is the reason I only streamed at night back then!
>>43358515Lmao nice
>>43358463Running the clock, Sana style
>>43358552>Worst falseflag attempt ever>Isn't it usually right wingers that watch vtubers? A boycott would do nothingpretty funny
>>43358566I'm just assuming they are gonna do it the same way Myth did last year and record her portion in an American 3D studio.
>>43349846reimu literally confirmed ike, petra, luca, sonny, rosemi, nina were all in Japan, retard, and have met with fuwa, mikoto, ebio, chigusa, oliver and hayato. you didnt search well and are a terrible lurkerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Py00rvy7Kqc&t=15140s
>>43358624She'll stay at least. Honestly as much as I dislike Kronii's work ethic, Council doesn't need another morale killer.
>>43358552>Even GCJ retards could see through the obvious falseflagDo better next time anon
>>43356743IRyS has it working with Mega Man but it's like she refuses to go all-in on it.
>>43358641Its not impossible but that would mean either they always intended Kronii and just Kronii to record away from Japan, or they found a place on short notice when her japan plans failed.
>>43358592There is something seriously wrong with her
>>43358463she's fucking her friend>source?valentine tweeter
>>43358592Hardest working Council
>>43358583Polka was supposed to be the big hit of gen 4, her RM was a very well known vTuber before joining, but her content was very different and she never really carried it forward to Hololive so it didn't end up going that well for her. Noel was also supposed to be the main feature of gen 3 but ended getting outshined by Pekora, who funnily enough was actually infamously hated on NND before joining.
>>43358592HoloEN btfo
>>43358665Yeah who knows, it's just the conclusion I've drawn for her not being in Japan when the rest of Council was. Could be Kronii just said from the start she didn't want to/couldn't go and she and Cover figured something out in the states.
>>43358650This stream ended later than the time that post was made fucking idiotStop quoting posts from hours ago and being from SEA
>>43358727>Polka was supposed to be the big hit of gen 4,kek>Noel was also supposed to be the main feature of gen 3Only in the same universe Mel, Haachama, Choco and Aki didn't get demonetized for ASMR, which quickly proved not to be the case
>>43358706And who would that be? Someoke in the duo she mentioned at that LA convention last year?
>>43358787How does HoloEN btfo HoloEN? The other members or council really have a lot to learn from her.
>>43358329since you mentioned that, here's the list of Niji JP-EN that had collabs, be it individual or in a group of at least 5>Pomu: Sukoya, Oliver, Amamiya, Chigusa, Genzuki, Yorumi, Hakase, Ex Albio, Nagao, Levi, Ritsuki, Lain, Kirame, Fuwa, Mikoto, Utako, Kagami, Akira, Ritsuki, Mahiro>Elira: Sukoya, Mayuzumi, Chigusa, Oliver, Kenmochi, Momo, Axia, Debiru, Nagao, Moira, Lauren, Lain, Genzuki, Toko, Ange, Levi, Fuwa, Sasaki, Furen, Seraph, Muyu>Finana: Sukoya, Oliver, Rin, Warabeda, Kanda, Amamiya, Hoshikawa, Chigusa>Selen: Oliver, Kanae, Chigusa, Mahiro, Nagao, Chihiro, Amamiya, Elu, Ratna, Fuwa, Kanato, Furen, Seraph, Muyu>Petra: Mayuzumi, Oliver, Chima, Chigusa, Debiru, Lauren, Lain, Belmond, Genzuki, Ex Albio, Kirame, Levi, Haruka, Mahiro, Nagao, Noraneko, Sukoya, Rine, Fuwa, Mikoto, Utako, Leos, Hisupi, Rikichi, Lize, Shellin, Chaika, Ryushen, Elu, Hibari, Ngo, Deron, Shiina, Mayu, Furen, Toru, Ibrahim, Sophia, Akari, Gakkun>Rosemi: Ange, Ex Albio, Toko, Mao, Nagao, Amamiya>Millie: Oliver, Chima, Lain, Chigusa, Nagao, Noraneko, Fuwa>Enna: Chima, Fuwa, Ritsuki, Kanato, Kagami, Akira>Nina: Oliver, Amamiya, Nagao>Reimu: Lain, Oliver, Chima, Mahiro, Genzuki, Mayuzumi, Ex Albio, Yotsuha, Ratna, Leos, Air, Amamiya, Ritsukin, Ponto, Nagao, Fuwa>Mysta: Oliver, Fuwa>Shu: Oliver, Lain, Chigusa, Nagao, Leos, Mayuzumi, Ponto, Fuwa, Hibari, Kanato, Akira, Seraph, Belmond>Vox: Oliver, Chihiro, Amamiya, Nagao, Sasaki, Kuzuha, Mito>Ike: Lain, Oliver, Nagao, Kanato, Kagami, Akira, Genzuki, Ritsuki>Luca: Oliver, Ponto, Nagao, Fuwa, Kanato, Yotsuha, Lain>Sonny: Ex Albio, Chigusa, Amamiya, Nagao, Sukoya, Mayuzumi, Rine, Fuwa, Oliver, Belmond>Alban: Ex Albio, Chigusa, Amamiya, Nagao, Lain, Oliver, Sukoya, Mayuzumi, Furen, Toko, Hibari, Ponto, Yotsuha, Belmond, Seraph>Fulgur: Amamiya, Nagao, Kirame, Levi, Lain, Ritsuki>Uki: Nagao, Chigusa, Amamiya, Fuwa>Scarle: Nagao>Aia: Nagao>Maria: Nagao, Yotsuha, Fuwa, Kanato>Kyo: Nagao>Aster: Nagao>Ren: Nagao>Meloco: Kuzuha, Ponto, Debi, Ratna, Elu, Joe, Seraph>Kotoka: Yorumi, Kanato, Hibari, Shiina, Kazaki, Himawari, Ange, Muyu, Naruse
>>43355764>>43358727So why was pekora hated?
kek, Koyori flexing the mocopi feats that outgun that Home3D VRChat-tier movement from Marine and Pekora>Koyori trying to kiss Pekora and destroy Marine's Channnel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BtvP4Zuf3QIf they were trying to shill mocopi by showing how much better it is than their home3D they hit a home run here
>>43358900Do your reps
>>43358804Retard, her stream began hours before that, she was talking about it since 11 pm jst. You retards are the ones who cant even lurk well when everyone in nijien fanbase already know they were in Japan and reimu confirmed that in the first minutes of her come back stream
>>43358912Mocopi bad.t. Teamate
>>43358463I feel like if i wasn't super active I'd just forget about her. Ever since Tempus she's mostly felt like a ghost
>>43358900She wasn't really hated, she was just low profile shitposter. At least in the context of NND times. Allah forgive me that utter this word, but old NND era was an actual toxic shithole so behaving like that wasn't really out of norm.
>>43358912Best stream of February
>>43358912KNEEL TO KOYO PANTSU!
>>43358727Ah fascinating, now that you mention it I do vaguely remember watching one of those Youtube videos that showed subscriber growth history and was shocked to see Noel jump out to an early and quite sizeable lead on the rest of Gen3. Marine in particular looked like she actually struggled her first couple months until finding her stride and audience after a couple months. Never realized since all that happened long before I got into Hololive.
>>43358900She used to start drama with other streamers all the time, and she used to heavily associate with Jun who is also known for having a cancer fan base. There's a clip floating around of her making Aqua's RM cry over a skype call. She's changed mostly since joining Hololive but some of the past resurfaces every now and then, like her relationship with Miko which started long before Hololive, and her slight animosity towards Aqua for her first year or so after joining.
Numberinos, how much did Lazulight get again for their 3D showcase? I need to know so I can doom post about Ina later
>>43359107>her slight animosity towards Aqua for her first year or so after joining.Any on-stream moments that showed this even in the slightest? Its not often you see stuff like that on Hololive streams so I'd love to see an example of it.
>>43359131Go learn how to use Vrabi yourself.
>>43358650According to the timestamps, yeah, most of the ones in break were in japan,and they met with jp members too03:07 Reimu is here04:34 the vacation felt long05:47 she missed us parasocially06:48 The classic "favorite ghost-vtuber" SC trolling07:57 You better missed me08:51 Reimu definitely did Karaoke recently09:59 working on that canada visa12:37 Reimu get lost everywhere13:41 Reimu was in Japan14:29 Reimu got Permissions to talk16:49 Spent time with Rosemi NijiGhostarden is real17:55 Hold Flippers aswell18:18 date in a sailor moon store and got matching keychains19:16 Reimu "I am so gay"19:58 Met with Miss Petra Gurin21:11 NijiEN members don't know how to give hugs22:03 Hug me hard because I am flat23:12 sonny is the only other nijien that gives good hugs24:17 Reimu: "Sonny is weirdly manly"25:41 She also met Mr Ike Eveland26:44 All day Shoppping with Mom and Rosemi28:12 Looking for Bar 2 and a half hour long36:24 Reimu with her bad memory37:40 Reimu and Rosemi love both cute clothes38:58 she met shu yamino too40:37 Ike was shopping for weeb stuff40:56 Ok, Shu wasn't there42:18 Things Reimu bought48:52 luca was there!49:03 List of people she met50:19 I adore Mikoto-senpai52:40 Reimu: "You have to be a little bit crazy to be my friend"52:47 Reimu is glad she and Mikoto are friends53:38 More JP senpais56:53 I love that in a Person58:47 Reimu eat a lot59:46 ring story1:04:09 Reimu brought herself a ring on Valentine´s day and make her senpais laugh!1:08:14 Luca story1:08:49 They saw a couple with tons of Niji Merch1:10:08 Luca just says POG every 10s in a very loud voice1:11:36 Maid cafe1:15:12 They set up Luca1:17:31 Reimu and Rosemi had the best day but Luca1:28:18 Everything I forget the other members will tell1:28:54 shu is like doraemon1:31:20 Reimu looks like a lost child1:33:33 We went to the Cinnamon roll cafe1:36:34 Luca: "They're so ugly, but I really want one..."1:37:20 otter cafe!1:39:48 Reimu likes jewely1:41:40 Cute Otter moments1:49:07 Rosemi is safe1:53:16 Gift from Rosemi1:55:39 reimu got kissed by elira1:58:26 How this trip happened2:07:20 Petra takes pictures/videos of everything, Reimu take pictures of food2:10:24 Business class Food, the Zoom of the Zoom2:16:19 Cinnamonroll character pictures2:17:36 Luca eating everything the others didn't want2:20:24 One dish Luca wanted2:22:29 Luca couldn't believe japanese sizes2:24:26 Reimu experienced Snow for the first time2:42:09 More shopping with Rosemi2:45:04 "We babysit the boys"2:50:20 Drinking Coffee with Elira, Petra and Rosemi2:54:37 Reimu needed that recharge2:57:12 Half of NijiEN was missing2:58:57 Reimu needed this (and deserved it)3:00:57 So much serotonin made Reimu wake up alone at the hotel, stare at the ceiling and cry3:05:40 Who grabs the bill the fastest? Uki and Elira3:07:02 Petra and Reimu were fighting...for who to pay3:16:20 Nina you are not supposed to eat that3:19:10 Reimu loved that tofu!3:21:49 They got told to quiet down, twice3:24:08 Meloco´s Chocolate3:26:27 "What's that Noctyx song?!"3:31:06 Petra was so loud!3:38:09 Singing3:42:36 Coming to the last pictures3:43:55 "I am deunk"-tweet story3:48:32 Reimu was not drunk as much when she was in Europe3:50:09 Reimu said goodbye to her dessert3:55:32 Reimu´s jacket3:57:00 Rosemi´s chololate4:05:57 First impressions4:10:39 Reimu simps for Petra!4:16:06 Coming to an end for today
>>43359131Like 56.1k for their best one.
>>4335913197k E 80k P 77k F
>thread that get things wrong or knows absolute jackshit about current JP is trying to teach newfags about old JP time period rumao
>>43359182I have what you're looking for
>>43359217I belib this. If she gets less than Finana, she should graduate already
>>43359107Retarded newfag. That aqua crying was an obvious joke. You are either autistic and cant into jokes or genuinely retarded. It was a collab. Do you also think marine made her cry for real during their collab?
>>43359253No one is talking about JP, why bring them up out of nowhere?
>>43359107oh so that's why...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QG6yLiJrIA
>>43349430Worst month ever for NijiEN.
>>43349430Also, everyone in EN has at least one gold except Kiara.
>>43359298they were literally talking about pekora and qua blind bro
>>43359398Oh i see them now, they mostly hit my filters.
>>43359331half of NijiEN werent active
>>43359381eh, thats a given next week short of a luxiem graduation.
>>43359331I wonder if a EN3 debut month could replicate this. I guess they'd need to debut at the beginning of the month though.
>>43359428Cope, HoloEN held the fort with freakin 4 chuubas last year. Bae and Mooms especially
I looked out of curiosity and Gura's 4 million celebration set is already sold out
Reminder that Pomu inclining to the moon and 1 million subs soon
Is Taku Inoue the guy that's always around Suisei or is that some other guy? I don't really know nip music people that well.
>>43359540>made to order
>>43358202Not like these people are hololive consumers in the first place, if they actually tried something it would be just an great opportunity to filter the trans people from the hololive fanbase
>>43359540Proof? No one believes you anyways since Gura has massively declined even since her Dino Gura time.
>>43359540II thought they were made to order
>>43359131It's quite obvious who got shilled by the JPs do the a company mandate.
>>43359557Taku Inoue is the guy, he worked on idolm@ster music.
>>43359485Bae is worth 2 to 3 NijiENs, and Mumei 4 to 5.
>>43359685*Kisses* thanks for the spoon-feed anon. I would've thought that Pomu got higher than Selen but boring