/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>43113872
Too much reading 5ch like usual

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>43113800
Irys never plays the debuff games that Mumei and Kronii do. That's just a fact

>Myth
Gura - Behind Members, no data.
Ame - No stream.

Ina [Pokemon 10+11]
￥88,315 [$663.77]
Memberships - 65
Gifted Memberships - 57

Kiara (Holocure)
￥197,594 [$1485.1]
Memberships - 13
Gifted Memberships - 0

Mori (Valentine Karaoke)
￥517,503 [$3889.50]
Memberships - 51
Gifted Memberships - 31

>CouncilRyS
Kronii - No stream

IRyS (CARAOKE the sequel)
￥329,322 [$2475.15]
Memberships - 34
Gifted Memberships - 40

Bae (Valentine Roleplay)
￥141,131 [$1058.36]
Memberships - 26
Gifted Memberships - 125

Mumei (Valentine Karaoke)
￥306, 932[$2304.22]
Memberships - 40
Gifted Memberships - 343

Fauna (Valentine Karaoke/Yandere ASMR)
￥514,177[$3855.89]
Memberships - 74
Gifted Memberships - 213

Currency conversion using google.
So total ranking is:
Mori
Fauna
IRyS
Mumei
Kiara
Bae
Ina

If you were to count Membership/gifts, Fauna takes the lead, and Mumei beats IRyS.

>>43113813
Don't listen to the idiots here, Budokan is a bit special because money is not the only issue. That venue is "sacred" so to speak so not anybody can perform there.
Conversely, not every artist that has performed there gained massive success either.

will the number queen call in on mooner bday?

>>43113913
Recent clip numbers
>>42958043
>>42958065
>>42958096
>>42958126
>>42958153

>>43113933
Where they bitching about her overlapping or something?

>>43113999
* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>71,876: Choco (Hololive)
>62,012: Marine (Hololive)
>59,321: Pekora (Hololive)
>47,422: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>45,572: Flare (Hololive)
>45,188: Noel (Hololive)
>44,296: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>20,942: Miko (Hololive)
>18,451: Korone (Hololive)
>17,365: Korone (Hololive)
>17,042: Subaru (Hololive)
>16,659: Mito (Nijisanji)
>15,718: Iroha (Hololive)
>14,276: Fubuki (Hololive)
>14,066: Koyori (Hololive)
>13,610: Lamy (Hololive)
>13,432: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>12,566: Calliope (Hololive)
>12,405: Miko (Hololive)
>12,388: Chloe (Hololive)
>11,935: Watame (Hololive)
>11,741: Ars (Nijisanji)
>11,052: IRyS (Hololive)
>10,330: Hayato (Nijisanji)

>>43113970
How much are 303 ARS gifted memberships worth?

>>43113530
>Suisei performing there might be a bit too far away
There isn't a selection process to perform there like it's a sports Hall of Fame or something, lmao. She could perform there whenever she wants. She just has to pay the venue fee.

>>43113970
This is absolutely retarded, some of them aren't even proper Valentine's streams and Fauna has 2 streams because this was obviously done by a sapling

>>43113991
It's Japan's Madison Square Garden.

>>43114052
>FEBRUARY 2023 GOLDS
1) Marine (Hololive) - 48,323 - Drawing stream
2) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,371 - Pebot Minecraft
3) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 102,840* - 5th anniversary stream
4) Pekora (Hololive) - 34,140 - The Karaoke
5) Pekora (Hololive) - 45,516 - Minecraft
6) Marine (Hololive) - 41,228 - The Karaoke
7) Mito (Nijisanji) - 72,930 - Tsukino Mito vs Kenmochi Toya
8) Himawari (Nijisanji) - 57,917 - Honhima king collab
9) Pekora (Hololive) - 28,944 - Hogwarts Legacy
10) Miko (Hololive) - 39,954 - HoloCure new update
11) Gaku (Nijisanji) - 45,052 - Pachinko tournament
12) Mio (Hololive) - 55,820 - SMOK One-Block Minecraft
13) Subaru (Hololive) - 93,949 - Oozora Police 2023
14) Choco (Hololive) - 71,876 - 3D birthday live

>PER COMPANY
10x: Hololive
4x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
4x: Pekora
2x: Marine
1x: Choco, Gaku, Himawari, Miko, Mio, Mito, Nijisanji, Subaru

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
33x: Hololive
11x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie

>PER STREAMER
18x: Pekora
3x: Marine
2x: Kuzuha, Nijisanji, Subaru, Towa
1x: Choco, Gaku, Himawari, Hololive, Koyori, Miko, Mio, Mito, Nerumero, Nozomi, Polka, Roco, Suisei, Toya, Watame, Yashiro

>>43113968

>>43113991
So kinda like Carnegie for idols?

>>43113996
HELL NO. She doesn't respect Moona anymore.

>Wake up
>Full Myth offcollab got 45k less viewers than Oozora Police
It's a good day to be grim gang

moona leaked council 3d...

>>43114097
I mean they're both Valentine's oriented streams, had there only been one scheduled people likely would have donated more rather than split it between two.

*YESTERDAY'S FINAL EN TALLY*

>2/14 DAILY TALLY
11,194: Mori (Hololive)
11,052: IRyS (Hololive)
8,728: Baelz (Hololive)
8,008: Mysta (Nijisanji)
6,847: Ina (Hololive)


>EN GOLDS FOR FEBRUARY 2023
1) Baelz (Hololive) - 11,133 - Kinoko vs Takenoko
2) Baelz (Hololive) - 17,434 - Ministry Host Club
3) Amelia (Hololive) - 7,974 - Fallout New Vegas
4) Ina (Hololive) - 8,350 - Acessories Reveal
5) Baelz (Hololive) - 10,184 - Sausage Legend (w/ Subaru)
6) Mori (Hololive) - 9,020 - CHADcast (w/ Baelz & IRyS)
7) Mori (Hololive) - 31,776 - Outfit Reveal
8) Mumei (Hololive) - 14,044 - Unarchived Karaoke
9) Kronii (Hololive) - 13,735 - Unarchived Karaoke
10) Fauna (Hololive) - 8,880 - Minecraft
11) IRyS (Hololive) - 8,080 - Holocure
12) Gura (Hololive) - 42,601 - Return Stream
13) Amelia (Hololive) - 9,724 - Unarchived Karaoke
14) Mori (Hololive) - 11,194 - Unarchived Karaoke

>PER COMPANY
14x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
3x: Baelz, Mori
2x: Amelia
1x: Ina, Mumei, Kronii, Fauna, IRyS, Gura

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
21p: Baelz
19p: Mori
12p: IRyS
11p: Amelia
9p: Ina
8p: Fauna, Mumei
7p: Kronii, Vox
5p: Kiara, Gura
4p: Vesper
3p: Uki, Luca, Magni
1p: Mysta

>>43114097
>Literally say "it'll be unfair" last thread
>People say do it anyway
>Now get accused of being a Sapling
Christ

>>43113991
Wagakki Band and Babymetal ain't exactly sacred anon.

>>43113970
Ame had that Karaoke session, there were superchats/memberships there right? But of course we got no data

>>43114103
Nah, that's Tokyo Dome/ Yokohama Arena.
Budokan is too fucking small and old, a more apt analogy is a historied live venue

>>43114070
Didn't youtube remove that option unless you bank in an ARS bank?

>>43114176
>2023 EN GOLDS

>PER COMPANY
27x: Hololive
16x: Nijisanji
2x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
5x: Mumei, Amelia
4x: Baelz, Mori
3x: Mysta, Ina
2x: Vox, Selen, Pomu, Kronii, IRyS
1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, Finana, Millie, Luca, Regis, Fauna, Gura

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
40p: Mumei
35p: Ina
29p: Amelia, Baelz
28p: IRyS
26p: Vox
25p: Fauna
24p: Mori
23p: Mysta
17p: Kronii
14p: Luca
13p: Selen
12p: Kiara
10p: Pomu
8p: Ike, Millie
7p: Regis
5p: Flayon, Alban, Elira, Finana, Gura
4p: Enna, Uki, Vesper
3p: Sonny, Hakka, Magni
1p: Meloco, Shinri, Gavis, Axel

>>43114145
Moona leaked Mumei 3D and Moona x Mumei cover song

>>43114194
Karaoke session was a day before Japanese valentines.

>>43114070
The guy who donated 140 of those superchats sent an aka in USD

>>43114199
Not in a historical sense. Madison was the place that you a real musician

>>43114189
Not that meaning of "sacred" retard. More like you have to fulfill the committee sense of "culture"

>>43114097
She put in the work she gets the supers, that's not unfair that's just reality.

list of the dead/dying indies/small corpos

>Castella Inomori https://twitter.com/CastellaInomori
>Melonbread https://twitter.com/melonbread_69
>Raina Chiwawa https://twitter.com/RaniaChiwawa
>Selkie https://twitter.com/SelkieVT
>Virion Kisei https://twitter.com/virionkisei
>Sellena https://twitter.com/anelles_
>MoonJelly https://twitter.com/moonjelly0
>Suika Emi https://twitter.com/suikaemi
>Usami https://twitter.com/usami_vt
>RoaFen https://twitter.com/FenThePixie
>TsukimiLune https://twitter.com/TsukimiLune
>Etherna Celine https://twitter.com/ethernaceline
>Etherna Helen https://twitter.com/EthernaHelen
>Makoto & Akira Misaki https://twitter.com/ggnlive_withyou
>Orla Gan Ceann https://twitter.com/orlaganceann
>ProjectHarune https://twitter.com/ProjectHarune
>Lilita LaPlume https://twitter.com/lilitapuff
>Issei Kai https://twitter.com/isseikaich

places to end up for these streamers include
>NijiEN Gamers
>HoloEN3
>Phase Invaders/Phase Connect third gen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDUfwFZEICs

Other notes
Tsunderia Shuts down https://twitter.com/tsunderia_us/status/1618443736622501888
VReverie's 2nd generation of VTubers are now open https://twitter.com/VReverieLive/status/1619154341411315713
Tomopulse disbands https://twitter.com/tomopulse/status/1620192296099794944

>>43114180
Honestly no one cares about your garbage excuses, at the end of the day that wallpost is just another low quality posts in the numbers thread

>>43114263
*140 of those gifted memberships
Fuck it's too late for this shit

>>43114122
Not just for idols, but for music in general

>>43114304
>Castella Inomori
July 30th
>Melonbread
July 23rd
>Selkie
October 16th
>Sellena
December 30th
>Usami
September 27th
>>RoaFen
January 6th
>Etherna Celine
July 27th
>>Etherna Helen
July 28th
>Makoto & Akira Misaki
November 6th

>>43114097
It's just data, what's retarded about it? It's literally factual numbers.

>>43114145
>>43114258
No one /here/ gives a shit about that whore

>>43113970
>combining Fauna's streams
Fag

Here is the Valentines Ranking

1. Mori ($3889)
2. IRyS ($2475)
3. Mumei ($2304)
4. Fauna karaoke ($2237)
5. Fauna ASMR ($1619)
6. Kiara ($1485)
7. Baelz ($1058)
8. Ina ($663)

>>43114285
Ah yes like Eve and Yorushika?

>>43112683
https://youtu.be/StFeYZdnQ0s

>>43114350
which whore

>>43114303
the seethe, my god at least wipe the tears first.

>>43113970
Fauna is best GFE EN confirmed

>>43114370
Bring it up to Budokan committee, anon.

* FINAL 24HRS VOD TALLY FOR 02/13/2023 *
(View growth after 1 hour at end of each line)
>751,003 Kuzuha (ANYCOLOR) (150.8%)
>600,711 Oozora Subaru (COVER) (1183.0%)
>301,985 Usada Pekora (COVER) (110.6%)
>237,656 Shishiro Botan (COVER) (678.7%)
>207,368 Hakui Koyori (COVER) (87.0%)
>202,249 Inugami Korone (COVER) (121.9%)
>197,429 Usada Pekora (COVER) (88.3%)
>194,001 Komori Met (774 inc) (64.0%)
>171,450 Yuzuki Choco (COVER) (368.0%)
>163,624 Kaida Haru (ANYCOLOR) (1319.2%)
>152,881 Aizawa Ema (Brave Group) (77.1%)

>>43114366
bae is such a failure

>>43114380
I want to see how Mika will handle this.

>>43114350
No one even brought up your mother, what are you even doing calling her that even if it's true.

Kronii was in moona stream

>>43114366
Can't tell if you're a disgruntled Hooman or a disgruntled IRyStocrat

>>43114420
Just accept it anon. Hololive is already ambassador of tourism.

>>43114440
Uh, I thought it's all but confirmed at this point?
She fucking flew to london for offpako for fucks sake

>>43114460
clearly a deadbeat

>>43114199
think of it as the Monaco Grand Prix of concert venues.

>>43114473
Hey, I'm not disagreeing with you there

sea monkey

>>43114380
>just says the name of the person
>it's a chuuba
These freaks really don't belong to be discussed in the same place as holos, This is just normie streamer behaviour.

>>43114460
Brat

>>43114486
Officially no, they have never been together.

>>43114380
I guess this is why his numbers were ass lmao

>>43114380
Jesus

It's kind of crazy how much NijiEN has self-immolated just in the last month. Seriously, just like a month ago it seemed like they had a ton of momentum and now I'm expecting an announcement that AnyColor is going to close the branch any day now. Holy shit.

>>43113970
Fauna I kneel.
Kronii is mega cringe considering she was definitely alone on valentines day

>>43114366
Unironically a better list, thanks for the hard work

>>43114639
Well... there was that post earlier today with the official EN channel

>>43113872
from what I can tell
> she forgot about Valentines and her stream was last minute
> apparently was spotted in some other holo's Pokemon stream? and got complaints about not preparing better for her own valentine stream.
> 今後は突発でホロメンに絡みに行かないようにするー!
> "From now on, I will try not to suddenly get involved with Holomen!"
This is some sad schizo shit, Kanatan...

>>43114639
That's what you get for recruiting a bunch of third string talents

>>43114639
Beware of the watamage.

>>43114692
Fuck you heymins, I thought you're better than this

When HoloEN took days off, it was for recordings and other works in Japan, which is why morale is still high.
But when NijiEN is taking days off, the whole branch is just crumbling down. Why is that?

>>43114366
Ogey Faunaschizo. She still wins in the end by the way, even if you want to pull this shit.

>>43114692
yea that's the part that was odd to me, one of the best parts of hololive is suddenly getting involved in things.

https://twitter.com/nicogame_PR/status/1618129036022104065
Huh, they replaced that male commentator from the previous Holocups

>>43114639
The momentum they has was an illusion created by HoloEN being out

>>43114770
Sounds passive aggressive to me, like a "Oh ok fuck you guys no more spontaneous interactions then"

>>43114745
>When X takes a break , it's for some other productive things
>When Y takes a break, it's for some nebulous things
You've answered your own question anon

>>43114803
NO MEN

>>43114770
It's an unironic woman moment>>43114815

>>43114803
Makes sense, they probably got a better idea of the hololive audience after that.

>>43114803
>sponsored stream
>of course all shillox is there

>>43114803
Thank FUCK NO MORE POKEMON
t.IRyS

>>43114815
For fucks sake, why would any holomen reads 5ch? It's clearly as dumb as reading /vt/, it's just not healthy

>>43114380
What the fuck is this blown up discord icon? Where is his l2d? Why is audio quality so ass? Is this what nijifags been watching all this time?

>>43114894
They're dumb if they don't. It's a faux pas to insult the holomems directly

>>43114894
To get honest criticism without a horde of twitter asslickers.

>>43114901
Saw something saying his app was busted earlier but don't care enough to verify.

>>43114803
Can't believe they replace Laplus with Polka

>>43114440
>>43114575
>>43114608
>>43114639
did none of you retards watch the clip?
It was obviously a joke

>>43114953
>to get honest criticism
roru
rumao

>>43114901

>>43114964
I will never watch a clip, stream, a gif or anything involving faggots

>>43114808
I don't know. With the new wave, Luxiem anniversaries, 3D debuts, and the Concert announcements, it really seemed like they were actually doing shit to build some actual mindshare.

Now let's look at those things

>New Wave
One of them is already suspended, one of them streams in Japanese more than English, and one of them is so universally hated that he has an entire google doc with timestamps and receipts on why he sucks

>Luxiem Anniversaries
Now half of Luxiem is MIA and Vox has finally pissed his Chinese fanbase off enough that they are doing actual schizo shit to him (like we said was going to happen all along, lets be honest here) and who knows if he will ever come back

>3D Debuts
Nothing wrong with these I guess except for lower than expected viewership other than the one that was shilled by Kuzuha

>concert announcement
Cancelled a week later

>>43114964
I don't care.

>>43114964
Right, it was a "joke"

>>43114138
45? What

>>43114964
Is it tho?

>>43114964
>it was just a prank bro (gone sexual)

>>43114964
I'm gonna be honest chief, I'm just threadreading but after his 'I'm gonna fuck your oshi' outburst I'm gonna choose to believe what I read.

>>43114959
>>43114988
NijiEN thriving...

>>43114977
You think Kronii cares about her beta orbiter fans who keep failing her shit tests? Vtubers are women, they yearn to be criticized and treated like shit

>>43114964
i don't watch streams below 10k ccv

>>43114964
>Watch the clip
I have never even heard any of the Luxiem voices and I'm not about to start now. They are responsible for the bad reputation that EN vtubers have so fuck them.

>>43113996
Meeting

>>43114380
The collapse of nijiEN cant come soon enough.

>>43115072
You think 5ch and this fucking board are about honest criticism?
You gotta be joking

cute male on mooner stream

I miss Jiru-kun...

>>43114964
When someone tells you who they are, believe them.

>>43113970
I mean the problem with membership gifts is there’s no was of knowing what currency they used. It could be USD or it could be flipbucks.

>>43115141
amen

>IRyS is going to play Little Witch Nobeta
BASED BASED BASED

>>43115135
You might behave like a retard but most people are honest here

>>43114964
sisterkeks...

>>43115072
Those beta orbiter fans you're talking about? those are the people here. And yes she probably doesn't give a shit about them.

>>43115188
>Honest
Sure, that's the perk of anonymity.
>Criticism
Get off your high horse faggot

>>43115241
Why is this faggot seething?

>>43115228
fuck buddy... nijibros....

>>43115241
Pretty sure the people here think Kronii is cancer

>>43115174
Aw shit another game that she wont finish....

>>43115228
Hahaha, yeah, "close friends".

>>43115228
the last sentence is so unnecessary...

>>43115260
You're too caught up in the emotion of it. That's your problem.
You're doing it wrong if you are getting upset at shitposting. You shitpost back and be funnier.

>>43115228
HOLYKEK NIJIKEK IS REAL AHHHAHAHAHAHA

>>43114964
It always starts as a joke, they float it to gauge the response from their audience. and if it isn't horribly virulent, they'll take another little step.

>>43114803
heh

>>43110580
Was Yagoo going through a mid-life crisis or something?

>>43115228
Isn't this literally how the Kyo x Enna ship started and then less than a week later they were holding hands and interlocking fingers on stream

>>43115260
Thing is, some of the jannies here definitely work for the corpos and they definitely have our IP addresses.
They don't just know about the criticism, they know exactly the people doing it.

it's over, nene has thrown down the gauntlet. Kanata never stood a chance.

Shuba playing holocure tonight. The only hope to beat chinman since myth fumbled.

>>43115317
I'm not denying the shitpost part, but if this board and 5ch while we're at it has had any constructive criticism, most of the time it's for obvious shit like "stream more to build audience" or other generic advice.
You can have that anywhere but without the bile of toxicity you got here

>>43114803
>>43115372

Anyone who says suiseis 3rd or 4th sololive won't be in budokan is actually dilusional

>>43110580
JUST

>>43114473
It's whether the committee approve it or not, so in the end connection matter too.

>>43115495
You're sounding like a twitter user. It is not difficult to navigate this board and it is clear as day that its filled with a ton of information.

So Gura's announcement this weekend is real or nah?

>>43115418
I had a hair style like that once, but it was the early 2000s and I was in middle school so...

>>43115551
She said there's something saturday.

>>43115548
lol

>>43115548
Information is NOT a constructive criticism, retard.
It's fucking data, it's as agnostic as it can be.

>>43115606
kek*

>>43115551
Better say Nah to anything EN involved unless proven true or success.

>>43115520
I meant she's been hinting that anyway

>>43115496
>>43115372
>Tempiss fucks off from collab spam and in the shitter
>Girls who usually don't pander too much pander this Valentines
>This
Unicorns can't stop winning lately

>>43115609
You're talking nonsense. Go do your "constructive criticism" on plebbit.

>>43115551
Idk anymore. I'm pretty sure she said there was but I'm not sure if she was foreshadowing Ina's 3D or not.

>>43115551
She was talking about ninner's 3d debut probably, maybe
She said "Saturday you'll see me for sure" so she's either gonna stream that day or be a call-in guest in the ina skits

>>43115609
kys faggot hows that for some data

>>43115667
Just shut your pie hole and watch graphs faggot

>>43114380
Got some rrats from the comment section

>>43115704
Seethe

Turning Myth 3D into a relay, leading to HoloFes4 is quite a good move. Since there's no need to hard promote HoloFes in Japan, Cover can focus on selling HoloFes to foreigners instead.

>43115708

>>43115730
Do people even know the meaning of relay anymore?

>>43115708
lol they dont give a fuck about protecting their chuubas

>>43115493
Lamy outfit...

>>43115551
Yes, she is finally going to announce the Queen cover!!! Any day now...

>43115708
is this why >we've been getting m**na wedding spam?

>>43115770
Nevermind. I got the day wrong

>>43115708
>Holo fans spread rrats and shitpost on the containment board
>Nijifags literally just dox post in youtube comments with public accounts

>>43115832
Niji fans are not idol fans so we don't have to hide shit like that. Nijisanji livers even allow that.

>>43115730
Relay is leading from one stream durectly into another, not 6 streams distributed randomly across 3 weeks.

>>43115135
At least in the west, you aren’t going to get an honest answer on reddit, twitter, or discord because they have a ‘don’t rock the boat’ mentality and shits on anyone who implies even the slightest bit of negativity. So yeah, 4chan is as good as it gets for vtubing discourse.

>>43114692
Holo EN will never be this BASED

>>43115867
Yeah Nijisanji talents would never hide a girlfriend or boyfriend, so if they don't talk about it or say they don't have one, you can trust them

i just realized today that nodoka is on a break since january. No wonder why A-chan returned to making schedules
https://twitter.com/harusakinodoka/status/1614955636495683587

>>43115551
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfsuo2Q1dEM&t=5925s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfsuo2Q1dEM&t=5925s
timestamp here if anyone needs it, who knows what she's planning, their schedule is a mess right now.

>>43115708
what in the fuck
is this why "MikaxMysta" rrats completely disappeared off the face of this board?
Hell we haven't heard any news about Mika for more than half a year, even during this yab filled month...
jesus

>>43115867
Yes I'm sure Vox is grateful, where is he btw? Haven't seen him in a while.

>>43115548
Information such as if you collab with males under any circumstances, whore. If you don’t you clearly have something to hide, whore.

>>43115708
That's her actual roommate no? Never seen roommate used outside here or doxsite

>>43115928
Hiding from his obsessed chink schizos

>>43115086
Meh, I have. You aren’t missing much. They just talk like normal dudes. They’re basically just normal streamers with an anime model. (Aside from all the pandering and shit they do) Not even a hint of kayfabe like most female vtubers do.

>>43115928
buying a new house with his fujobux

>>43115867
It's not just about idol shit, seperating the rm and chuuba is best for their career and safety.
Look at a male collab, there is the issue that fans will constantly be reminded of it. They're just trying to watch a game or something and there will be people insulting them.

>>43114692
kanataso i know you hate me and my fellow men but thats not stopping us on fapping to you

>>43114803
Main Channel Gold!!

>>43115867
Explain vox then

>>43115962
I don't think it's unreasonable standard for what is a glorified digital beggar. If they won't even do kayfabe why support them.

>>43116054
He got like, what, 1 million bucks at most?
Good luck finding a good housing in the current britbong housing crisis

>>43116114
Don;t know about you, but I'm looking to be entertained, not whatever the fuck you're implying

>>43116114
People like you being filtered from the fanbase is a positive thing

>>43116150
>be entertained
Hololive is a specific type of entertainment. The main thing is that it's all girls.

You know, since we know that NijiEN members come here, does that mean they know about our shitposting of them losing terribly to HoloEN?

i'm guessing luxiem will be back full throttle on white day.

>>43116150
Well very few chubas are entertaining compared to male streamers or other media. Without GFE there is little reason for their popularity.

>>43116189
Some of them collab with males from time to time

>>43116117
If I were him I would go buy a house in some cheap country, like the Yucatan in Mexico or something. He could buy a whole mansion cash for like $300k, and all he has to do is practice good opsec so the cartels never find out he's a loaded streamer and he's golden.

>>43116114
What's the difference between you and Vox schizoid fans again?

>>43116197
there's a reason why they're so bitter towards Hololive judging from the leaked discord convo. Hololive literally went rent free inside their head since most of them are holo rejects.

>>43116219
OGs and Towa.
If you know the history with Towa you'll know we don't want to lose her and will just accept her whorishness.
When they do collab with males, less people watch.
It will never be content people are excited for.

>>43116189
I mean, I watch Towa's APEX male collab and Lui-nee zatsudan, and I felt entertained in both

>>43116197
Did you forget Vox restarting his stream because he couldn't get 10k? We live rent free in their minds.

Morning /#/ jwu, anything fun announced during the myth offcollab?

>>43116218
Agree to disagree mate

>>43116277
It doesn't matter. Theres hundreds of thousands of hours of content and it's cute girls doing cute things.
The reason is, that's what Hololive is.

>>43114964
>obvious

It's not though since they were rumoured to date since like forever, it's a terrible joke to make and might actually get Mika into trouble with luxiem schizos but nijis just don't seem to care about their actions.

>>43116114
So what's your take on Sora, Suisei, and Fubuki then?

>>43116272
Monopoly collab disproves it

>>43116225
>mexico
You're asking to get robbed and/or kept hostage with that money

>>43116316
3D showcases

>>43116225
you could get a small mansion and some property for 500k in texas, with the added benefit of never worrying about cartels gutting you.

>>43116334
No it doesn't.
What even happened in the stream that was funny and people talked about or clipped?

>>43116375
>an unironic clipfag
NTA but go back holy shit

>>43115962
taking a musket lesson to shot any chink get close to him

>>43116396
Cope, the point is clear as day.

>>43116331
I don't find them entertaining and I don't watch them. I don't dox or do schizo shit like a chinoid I just move to the streamer providing the wanted product.

>>43116323
Reducing what hololemn does to CGDCT is insulting to them. They literally do their best to entertain you whether thru GFE shit or funny game stream and that's on top of their singing and dance class.
To be reduced into simple CGDCT like it's a fucking moeblob era is downright blasphemy

>>43116457
Seethe

>>43115493
>HOLOJP TASUKETEEEEE

>>43116457
Nigger thats literally all it is. Fuck off if you dont like it

>>43116457
Cope. CGDCT is the greatest compliment you can give a group if girls

>>43116499
Fuck you, my oshi is not some simple CGDCT you fag

>>43116457
>GFE shit
Cute girl doing cute thing
>funny game stream
cute girl doing cute thing
>singing and dance class
cute girl doing cute thing

>>43116524
I'm sorry your oshi is not cute or entertaining.

>>43116524
Just accept that its an umbrella term that can be applied to hololive, how a girl does that is upto them.

>>43116580
If you wanna be all reductive about it be my guest

looking at that new Jewchuuba debut, i wonder if pre-doxxed chuubas will catch on in japan and become the norm. the Love Live vtubers and Kizuna Ai's group are already doing this sort of thing so it's a matter of time if Cover and Anycolor does the same thing.

>>43116620
I only care about being right.

>>43116375
It was a highly clipped stream

>>43116620
If you want to be a retard, be our guest

Today is supposed Vox's SC haul. Too bad he got cumpscared.

>>43116647
Be specific
>What even happened in the stream that was funny and people talked about or clipped?

>>43116648
Nah, you're already doing a fine job at it. Don't wanna steal your thunder

deadcuck or cucknies?

>>43116620
its good because they are cute girls doing it retard. You think putting a grotesque model with a tranny voice be recieved as well??

>>43114894
5ch is way more mainstream in Japan than 4ch ever was in the West

>>43116678
Mori going bankrupt because of a timeout and Kronii winning all her properties and then torturing both Magni and Vesper who teamed up against her

>>43116684
That was the first time I replied to you. You don't understand how people use terms and get upset at your own ignorance

>>43116678
I heard the grey fag made a dick joke and the girls laughed like hyenas oh and the purple fag said something.

>>43116710
It's the cherry on top, retard, not the whole sundae.
My oshi is entertaining first and foremost AND cute too.

>>43116723
nah its just that Japs dont care to hide it for the internet points like westards do. Just look at the redditards and twitter fags shitting on this board but coming here back over and over.

>>43116634
That only works when the corpo is so big and the talents so famous that they can insulate themselves from being swarmed by randos.

>>43116729
Nothing then.
So as I said in response to "monopoly collab disproves it"
>No it doesn't.

What did Aqua mean by this

>we hate idols and idol shit
>proceed to chimp out when their concert gets cancelled

Why are Moona's guests so shitty?

>>43116723
To be fair, japan lacks anonymous social media

So the Japanese still think Mori is kakkoii huh

>>43116772
you only gave her a chance because she was cute to begin with. Its human nature

>>43116807
She needs the twitter approval badly.

IRyS is my favorite

>>43116729
That sounds like a normal monopoly game

>>43116807
She's a cute retard anon, I doubt she could even parse the words from it's meaning

>>43116323
Hololive culture is mostly CGDCT but it is not what Hololive is at its core. Believe it or not, Hololive is just a woman streaming behind an avatar. Sankisei greatly changed its culture (because what they did brings success) which leads it to what it is now.

Magnum raid Moona's stream

>>43116818
wait what???

>>43116866
You're just saying words sister, you're not adding anything.

>>43116830
Yeah, no.
There are other, much cuter girls.

>>43116858
Yes but their reactions were funny. Anyway my point was that the fans were obviously excited about that collab, given the numbers it got

>>43116890
This is an ancient problem that it's actually incredible isn't fixed, I think /#/ first noticed that over a year ago now

>>43116879
>not raiding Roberu
oh no no no, not like this homosisters

>>43116903
who is your oshi? Surely you will reveal her if your so certain on it?

>>43116838
Good luck with that shit Onyan.
Not to mention if the plan to make business pays upwards to 1k per account goes through.

>>43116225
Or he could live somewhere without the asterisk of “Cartels will kidnap you if they find out.

>>43116942
Wish these faggots would fuck off already

>>43114602

>>43116807
Aqua wants a horse and Elon will give it to her. As the payment for becoming one of his babymamas.

>>43115790
That was mostly due to certain image but I think it looked AI generated so maybe

>>43116907
>given the numbers it got
just drama numbers, retard

>>43116907
Anyone's reaction would be "funny" in Monopoly. It's that type of game

>>43116954
I'm a haaton

>>43116785
>not even arguing just going doesn’t count

>>43117028
I watched the girls only Monopoly collabs and they were boring compared to that one, sorry

>>43117002
It's not very nice to use another streamer as a cudgel to filter or chastise your fanbase, especially without checking with them

>>43116620
You are the one being reductive. You reduced the CGDCT theme by removing things like idol reps, GFE, and even playing games.
What does "cute things" mean to you?

Holos went pretty hard with the gachikoi pandering this year. I thought last year was an aberration since most of them were worried Rushia's stank would rub off them. This year they went harder than last year. I'm not understanding this, SCs are down but merch/collabs/sponsorships are way up so they're making enough money not to do 2view shit like this.

>>43117002
That reads like a whole lot of cope, nijiEN needs to crash and burn

>>43117002
I believe they fucked, but none of this is official and that was my point

>>43116890
This is a long running issue, she’s even talked in members about it making her analytics useless to the point it reads as having 56% Japanese viewers.

>>43117050
It speaks for itself. The post revealed that there was nothing interesting happening in the collab, so the discussion was done.
>>43117034
>popular because she was a cute teen girl

Kiarakitty for en3.

>>43117065
Maybe vtubing isn't as cynical when you're at the top of the industry.

>>43116807
How many years before a shinjin becomes a non-shinjin? 3 years?

>>43117053
That's subjective. I found it funny and the clips of the Stream you are talking about boring.

>>43117034
>Haachama isnt cute
yeah nah man. Haato was always cute.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9HY4DsRTCg

>>43117057
Anon, CGDCT by itself is a reductive term.
From it's conception the term used as catch-all for show with cute girls doing nothing and then parodied to encompass a whole era of moeblob.
Doesn't matter what the show is about as long as there's cute girls doing X.

>>43117065
Explain which one pandered more. They seemed to all be the same shit last year.

>>43116907
>given the numbers it got
kek, someone new here would infer that they might have reached 40k based on this statement.

The numbers that stream got came exactly from the audience that does not watch Hololive on a regular basis, given the numbers each of the participants got in the subsequent streams.
For reference both Kronii and Vesper just last week had their all time lowest stream on record.
Maybe there is an audience for that monopoly stream, but it is not the Hololive audience

Why isn't Haachama playing HoloCure yet? She needs to see the spider.

>>43117161
Hey, I'm not disagreeing with you, but chammers is a damn good entertainer even though she's swamped with college stuff lately

>>43117208
You hang around with too much faggots anon if you think cgdct is an insult to hololive content

>>43117206
Haachama is a hipster anon

>>43117169
I see. Kind of like Non Non Biyori.

>>43117195
So people are more excited for that content than a "cute" girl reading superchats or a "cute" boy playing Outer Wilds for 16 hours

>>43117275
>Minecraft
>Harry Potter
>hipster
Interdesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpV9-6cl338
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpV9-6cl338
GOLD

>>43117195
They got normal numbers after that monopoly collab.

>>43117065
I don't think it's about SCs really. Some Holos really care about them, but a lot of Holos also consider them just a side-benefit kinda thing and don't emphasize them.
I really just think that Valentines is core audience appreciation day. Having a really engaged core audience has tons of benefits. They buy merch, they buy concert tickets, they buy your $200 1/7th scale cheescake statues, they support you around the internet and foster a positive atmosphere for less-engaged fans, which makes a pipeline to convert those fans into core audience, and lots of other stuffs.

>>43117208
Yeah, she is. And it's CGDCT content. It's a compliment

>>43117277
>>43117169
There is literally a manga/anime about school girls going to antartica lmao.

>>43117332
She said it herself anon, she wants to play game that's "in", but couldn't bring herself to do it.
Micra and HL are different thing, she just loves them.

>>43117346
Exactly

>>43117288
Doesn’t change the fact they are not the typical audience.
And based on the numbers of all of those four (maybe not Mori, who stacked other more serious handicaps unrelated to that), it seems that they traded their typical audience which would watch their streams on a regular basis for the one off odd stream like that.

They definitely didn’t come out ahead in that trade.

>>43117385
It has CGDCT themes, but it has a plot.
Which reminds me of Miko's song blatantly copying the tune of its ending theme song legally by hiring its composer.

Moona's BD feels underwhelming

>>43117348
>Valentines is core audience appreciation day
This is correct. Even Suisei for the very first time ever give her members a Valentine wallpaper.

>>43117489
ok but now replace the cute school girls with some ojisans with normal back grounds.

>>43117065
Not everything is about direct monetary intake anon.

>>43117473
>traded
Nigger we know the stupid parasocial Kroniis never left.

>>43117053
I wonder if the fags who find these entertaining and push for more of them have never seen a mixed group interaction on Twitch. Shit like that has been done to death. You think a collab A interaction (mixed or not) is funny? Guess what, some Twitch group has already done it better. And you are probably just watching EN, Niji and HoloJP do a monopoly collab a hundred times better than this.

>>43117489
>It has CGDCT themes, but it has a plot
I think you have a negative view on CGDCT. The can have plot, darker themes or whatever

>>43117535
Hey, Saint Young Men is good

>>43117547
I'm not invested in any Twitch streamer so why would I want to watch that?

>>43117535
Cromartie Highschool and Dansei Kokousei no Nichijou are good

>>43117334
Is she good at singing?

>>43117346
Anon, that was the lowest persona stream ever for Mori (and one that was hyped by her begging years ago), and Kronii has the worst geoguessr number in that period compared to Mumei and IRyS.

>>43117620
You're just invested in making Hololive less successful

>>43117550
NTA but I have issue with the term itself, not the genre.
Standard IQ people would look at Non Non Biyori and The Place Farther than the Universe and could differentiate them while retards put them under the umbrella of CGDCT

>>43117659
Both you and Freddie Mercury are faggots.
Different, but the same.

>>43117643
eh, iirc kronii's stream was actually growing faster than the other two, but she capped her peak by playing like a retard.

>>43117620
You've said you enjoy that kind of content so it's a recommendation for more stuff for you to consume.

>>43117535
It will lose its CGDCT status, but it still has a plot.

>>43117699
>gameplay cope

>>43117546
Mate, her floor absolutely collapsed. The other day she was saved from a sub 4k gaming stream by a Mumei karaoke funnel and her SC readings are getting close to sub 2k.

>>43117693
Hey, thanks!

If you didn't notice, you are arguing with oboretei, homobeggar prime

>>43117535
Most sports anime are fully male

>>43117659
The term is used by people that like those shows and it's not for outsiders. It's like complain about the term shonen to describe a show

>>43117743
>SC reading cope

>>43117618
That's because they're real lads, not groomers who are more dramatic than even the biggest female drama queen.

>>43117743
>SC reading
Damn you sure showed a good point /s

>>43117770
That's a shitty analogy, shonen has some clearly defined rules like no explicit gore/blood and no "heavy" stuff like politics.

>>43117782
That’s the best way to gauge her “stupid parasocial Kroniis” whereabouts, given that they’re the target audience of that stream and Kronii does it often enough to be able to spot a pattern.

>>43117826
So does cgdct retard

>>43117490
what does ID do whenever they have B-days?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjNDDJFJugE
Gold?

>>43117727
I'm not a Kronie, I'm just telling you like it is, it was the least watchable stream of the three

Why is the sperg ground of /vt/ the only place to find real, engaging discussion....

>>43117826
But Attack on Titan is shonen

>>43117826
So does CGDCT. Come one dude

>>43117702
I enjoy seeing my oshi's reactions in those collabs. It would be impossible to see that side of her otherwise

>>43117817
See >>43117838 and this is not Reddit, you don’t need to “punctuate” sarcasm (or use it)

>>43117620
Well, if you find this kind of interaction funny, OTV is right there (or at least the old OTV, I haven't caught up with them lately). I can guarantee they've done better banter than this hundreds of times. When I watched the Monopoly stream, I didn't see cute anime girls doing funny things, I saw a regular Twitch group hanging out behind the camera this time, which can be cute too, but it's just an old flavour.

>>43117860
Because you have no friends

>>43117857
Exactly showing that she's fucked her numbers.
Her streams have always been that way, Kronies were always saviourfagging her.

>>43117864
Anon, AoT IS shounen. It's not that explicit nor heavy.

>>43117860
nah you're just mentally ill just like everyone else here you just dont realize it yet

>>43117874
OTV kinda fell off. NijiEN is the new OTV, or at least it was at one point. These days it's not very inspiring either.

>>43117860
because people think that an anime/show can only be CGDCT or not. Its just a tag to add to the show. Some people will search it specifically and others will give a show a chance because it has that tag.

>>43117880
Thanks for being my friend

>>43117860
Twitter has a word cap and is segmented, you can't even view images and chat at the same time.
Reddit is a hugbox.
There is no other large place.

>>43117849
Since they don't have access to 3D studio yet usually totsu with everyone in the industry including foreign vtubers, cosplayers, artists, and ecelleb.

>>43117868
>>43117848
You're telling me YuruCamp and Non Non Biyori belong in the same genre? Come the fuck on

>>43117002
You know, I feel like as far as the NijiEN girls are concerned, there’s probably some decent people in there . Not all of them. Selen seems like a decent enough girl, for example. But why do all of the NijiEN males just seem like unironic shitty people? Is it because they’re all /here/? (Not going to pretend there are that many decent people on 4chan, not even I think I’m all that good of a person) But something really feels ‘off’ about every one if them. Like I feel gross when I hear them speak. Even Mori for all her problems, seems like a kinder person than these jackasses

>>43117904
They literally had someone eaten by their kids.

>>43117971
bias, that's why

>>43114864
>All 4/4

>>43117966
>You're telling me that Bakuman and Dragon Ball Z are the same genre? Come the fuck on

>>43117546
To be more exact, only the most stupid parasocial Kronii’s remained. Those who still had some self-respect remaining left.

>>43117966
Yeah, two shows about cute girls doing life things. Eyeshield 21 and slam dunk are sports anime, but they do different things

>>43117950
This website is a hugbox

>>43117977
And Chainsawman has the protagonist brutally mutilated albeit offscreen in the first chapter. Doesn't make it less shounen

>>43118051
Truth prevails here

>>43118051
The fact that /mans/ still exists says otherwise. The sooner they're moved to /trash/ the better though.

>>43117971
You just don't hear about the nonshitty males. Someone like Ike or Sonny is completely fine and that's why you're not going to hear about him here, in the drama thread.

>>43118003
You don't find them getting shoved off under some shitty umbrella like CoolGuysDoingCoolThing, that's for sure

>>43117958
ah, i can see why their B-days can be kind of underwhelming

>>43117966
It's from MAL, but yes they are

>>43117743
>she was saved from a sub 4k gaming stream by a Mumei karaoke funnel
It helped but it didn't save her. But then again it's Fire Emblem, no one wants to watch that shit

>>43118100
Because both sexes are heavily involved in the plot.

>>43116256
This board used to be much more possitive about niji EN before luxiem when it was holo-light. For a time niji EN girls were praised for better chemistry than awkward Myth and streaming more, I guess Nina was the first really poor hire from /here/ perspective due to her bitchy SJW past but even then their worst sin was collabing with zentranny and other twitch subhumans for numbers.
With luxiem blowing up in China they pretty much decided to abandon male fanbase and concentrate on fujos, poor judgment but they wouldn't get fucked nearly as bad have they actually followed niji JP model rather than pseudo-hololive "family" one that could never work with ACCELERATE strategy and vastly different audience between male and female livers.

>>43118012
She's still getting money regardless

>>43118126
>genre
>themes
Anon-chama...

>>43118129
Anon that stream is above 4k

>>43117950
Didn't Twitter remove its word limit? I've seen a tweet that is long as fuck

>>43118168
Maybe if you pay for it I dunno

>>43118163
Yeah I misread that it said sub 4k instead of sub 5k. But really the point I wanted to make was that Fire Emblem is numbers poison so that still stands

>>43118129
Yeah Reine got better numbers from fucking Danganronpa than Fire Emblem.

>>43118087
There's nothing wrong with Vox either

Finally found the anime thread. Is Onimai good?

>>43118168
Who even wants to read long-ass tweet?

>>43118230
Ask Elon

>>43118225
Don't watch it on CR

>>43118087
Didn’t Sonny fake a brain tumour to stop playing TF2

I suppose this goes a long way into explaining the state of this branch...

>>43118213
There's a lot of things wrong with Vox, like him being a terminal numberfag who actually let numbers give him mental illness. I wish him a swift recovery, it looks like he's on his way already.

>>43118270
I thought he faked his own death?

>>43118148
So do onlyfans whores.

>>43118225
A guilty pleasure of mine, Kay also worked on this.

Meh, I just enjoy the masculinity free zone that is vtubing (or at least Hololive). There is just too many male in traditional streaming and content creation. I appreciate seeing funny and interesting women do things that is normally associated with dudes.
All this talk about cgdct, but I’d argue that it’s just a greater issue with manga/anime in general. Anime rarely goes beyond ‘ok’ in quality. If the standard ‘95% of all fiction is shit’, I’d argue anime and manga are like 99% shit. So for me, personally, cgdct is something that is both unique to the anime industry and they also excel at compared to manga/anime writers/creators capacity to write competent storytelling or compelling characters, which they’re shit at. The exception being music; anime music is weirdly high quality compared to what it’s being composed for.

>>43118213
He's cringe and obnoxious as fuck,but yeah, nothing new in terms of Nijisanji livers

>>43118302
I mean who wouldn't fake their own death to get out of that shit.

>>43118225
Good, but it's better to download JP raws and use fansubs for that. CR version is censored and has meme translation.

>>43117971
Ike, Shu, Alban, and Sonny are decent people.

>>43118225
The censors are extremely distracting in the CR version. It's good on the normal one though.

>>43118087
Sonny, you mean the one who faked having cancer in his previously life?

>>43118298
Meh, Shuba lied about content creation experience on her audition.

>>43118378
Alban the horse fucker?

>>43118389
Fuck off doxxnigger

>>43118270
>>43118302
...that was him? You're shitting me right?

>>43118270
>>43118389
I didn't include that because it's irrelevant to the current Sonny who is just kinda there. If he faked his death as Sonny that would be funny and based.

>>43118429
I take it you were not here when Noctyx debuted

>>43118415
Yeah, we shouldn’t know about a talent faking their own death. Heaven forbid we shouldn’t know about past transgressions of the people we watch.

>>43118450
If he faked his death to get out of his Niji contract this place would be hilarious for a good 2 weeks.

>>43118450
>it's irrelevant
It's definitely not. Being a criminal excludes you from that protection.

>>43118450
That’s not funny or ‘based’, it’s gross, inexcusable behavior.

>>43118530
Who's the victim?

>>43118450
If Yumeoi got shit on by his past life as troll then Sonny should too

>>43118298
Lying about playing Apex and then not playing it is actually a good thing though.

>>43118565
Depends. Did he ask for donations or receive anything based on this lie?

>>43118565
It's irrelevant, if someone anhero'd based on the information does that really change anything?