/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>418719
>simping
Election tourist buzzword, anyone who uses it is a newfag, you included.

Simping is cringe.

>>418719
Simp? Don't you mean shrimp?

>>418719
simping is bad though

>>418719
Too greedy and jealous they aren't grills

>>418876
It's not if you get positive reactions in exchange.

>>418839
Sorry, yes.

>>420065
Giving your money to a streamer that will never know you personally is stupid

anonymous teenager idiots attack anything they perceive as a lack of masculinity. because they're literally programmed to do so as part of their role in social dominance hierarchies as part of the mating instinct.

>>420608
They produce content that I enjoy and consume regularly, so I support said content. How is that stupid?
It's like saying buying a movie ticket is giving your money to a director who will never know you personally.

>>421880
There are people who hate Patreons and other crowdfunding sources too. Some people just hate the idea that people can have access to something without paying for it.

>>420608
>Giving your money to an actor that will never know you personally is stupid
>Giving your money to a game developer that will never know you personally is stupid
>Giving your money to a musical artist that will never know you personally is stupid

>>421940
I used to dislike the idea of crowdfunding, but now just kinda shrug my shoulders. Free market, people can pay what they want for what they think is worth the money, etc. I don't have any malice towards hyper-rich CEOs or anything, so I can't in good faith hate people who just use every trick they can to get ahead in the system.

>>418748
Outside of /jp/ this kind of post just comes across as autistic.

>>422029
You should. It's impossible to become hyper-rich without doing things that would make any reasonable person hate them. That's why PR departments exist.

>>421959
FREE ENTERTAINMENT

>>418748
this
>>422101
fuck you

>>422110
>would make any reasonable person hate them
"Reasonable person" is a pretty good cope analog for "person who doesn't have the ambition to push to be more than a salaried wageslave their entire life", thanks

>>418748
Ya, idk why people use the word simp DESU. It truly is a buzzword, and not even a good one. Better alternative words are:

>pathetic
>loser
>cuck
>virgin
>autist.
>loner
>chronic masturbator

the list goes on.

>>422159
not the guy you're replying to but i hate most giga rich / billionaires because they exploit people to get that rich, lobby governments and promote corruption, and tend to also be pedophiles or some kid of sex freak.

millionaires are okay, a vast majority of them are self-made businesspeople

>>422183
didn't you get enough (You)s in the last HoloGlo thread, Jahychama?

>>422183
Most people who equate being nice to a woman at all usually ARE those words

>>422198
Am the guy he's replying to, guess I'd agree with this much at least. Bezos and Gates have all kinds of creepy dirty laundry.
Not daddy musk though, he's cool.

>>418719
Cute things are meant to be lewded and fucked. If you donate to it but it does not pleasure your dick in return you are the ultimate cucklord.

>>422240
wasn't musk an apartheidist who exploited gem miners? or was that his papa

>>422257
Probably was
>Muh toxic battery mines
Don't give a fuck desu, not even an EVfag but we shouldn't stifle technological development just because Africans are bad at the whole "survivable working conditions" thing

>>421880
because you're doing it to fuel some sort of parasocial relationship

>>422392
Why does the silhouette look like a very tall man but with shark girls hair? i smell trace.

>>422392
stop projecting

>>422439
Because it's traced from the new Bade Runner film, jackass.

>>418719
People using the term SIMP don't understand it's true meaning and only know it under the context of Hololive or urban dictionary. SIMPing is a mistake that a lot of loser betas males such as myself make with girls when they don't understand much about dating or interpersonal relationships. Some guys make the mistake of showering girls with money or gifts thinking it will impress the girl, but in actuality it makes the girl think less of you. I once SIMP'd very hard with an older girl I was dating and she immediately dumped me for some broke alpha male teenager. SIMPs also make the mistake of being too kind to girls like always agreeing with them even when they know the girl is wrong. Girls actaully prefer bad boys and guys who will every once in a while tell them to shut the fuck up. Her new boyfriend treated her like pure shit which was a complete contrast to me. I tell you guys this so that you don't make the same mistake and SIMP like I did.

>>421959
>Giving money to a e-thot who is not good enough at anything to make it in a normal profession

>>420608
>>421959
>>423068
>that will never know you personally
The purpose of giving money is not for personal gratitude or getting to make someone you know happy. That is a strawman argument. The main objective of giving money to an entertainer is to financially support them so that they can produce more content. It doesn't have anything to do with knowing them or even liking them as a person. More intentional logical fallacies please.

>>418719
There's interacting and there's simping. Simp is a person that goes to a vtuber/e-thot/camwhore just to pretend she's his virtual gf and throw money at the illusion that he's being her virtual bf. This is a mental disease and girls that make a living from this are like stealing candy from children.

Then we have virtual interaction, which is providing actual content and people might give you donations if they feel like it. Some vtuber fans are borderline simps, other are even psychotic. As long as you understand this is all a facade and you're just part of one big theater there's nothing that could harm you. Just be careful with big money donations.

>>422101
What is wrong with being autistic?

>>423151
>Such a smoothbrain that he gives the money to a random girl who just shows you content that already exists
Just get some real friends and play games/listen to music with them
Giving money to someone whose "content" is just consuming others peoples content is retarded

>>423041
>meaning and only know it under the context of Hololive or urban dictionary.
Actually I only know it in the context of the manosphere. I haden't heard "simp" since 2014 until last year, really surprised how it seemed to come back out of nowhere

>>423229
Everything

>>418719
It's cucked lol

>>421880
I think people give money to streamers for 3 reasons:
>1) They want to be a part of the live show. They want their message to get attention.
>2) They want a way to communicate directly with the content creator and they don't think their mesage will be heard if they email or post in the comments section.
>3) They are entertained and want to support the content creator.

I have nothing against people giving money, but I just have higher standards of what I'm willing to pay someone money for. The only entertainment I buy are video games because I get 50+ hours of entertainment from it. Vtubers aren't entertaining enough to warrant giving them money, I'm not an attentionwhore, and I don't feel like contacting them. So I don't fit into any of the 3 categories.

>4) They think giving money will somehow lead to them getting closer to the content creator. These are the SIMPs. They want to fuck the creators.

>>423283
ogey NT

>>423068
Why are you even on this board?

>>423354
Mainly because my country is on lockdown so I can't go to social places and watch retards be retarded so I have to find places on the internet
Instead of people watching it's autism watching

>>418719
Nothing wrong with donating, membering or buying merch. Everything wrong with SIMPing.
Go look up what that word actually means.

>>423335
Poor Japanese girl Marine doesn't know how to shake her hips next to the American reddit dragon.

>>423390
Most women could never even dream of being able to out sex Coco.

>>423269
People are "reclaiming" simp so it can't be used as an insult against them I think. Fucking retarded if you ask me.

People keep using the term SIMPing incorrectly. If you support an entertainer you like you aren't SIMPing. Otherwise everyone who buys music/games/movies is a SIMP. With SIMPing it is a person who has strong and unrattional feelings for the person they are financially supporting. And they are giving the money in hope that it creates a stronger connection between them. There's a futility element that is involved in SIMPing. SIMPs are pathetic beta males usually.

>simping
go back

>>420608
It's basically Virtual Stip Clubs mixed with Pro-Wrestling.
You get to look at something pretty, while getting to enjoy content you like alongside a few thousand other fans for a good time.

>>423485
>No you don't understand!
>The girl who plays video games is perfect and deserves money for the amazing content!
If I didn't know that the large majority of these people are lonely insecure nerds I would not believe it

>>423538
See, now you are conflating the two like they do. You can watch a streamer and donate without idolizing them, which is what the I in SIMP stands for.

>>423485
SIMPing should be looked down upon. I know of a guy who SIMP'd and spent over $8,000 on a girl to win her affection. She then left him for an alpha male who offered her no money. SIMPs lack any type of game and can only rent pussy. I'm no alpha male and I'm a loser myself, but if we start giving praise to losers and turn SIMP into a badge of honor it could have negative impacts on our human race.

>>423589
>Girls where literally nobody streamers before they went behind a anime avatar for weeb simping
Sure thing man
Totally just enjoy the content they produce

Paying for membership = cool
Donating 10 bucks once in a while = cool
Donating 100 bucks with messages like "p-pls xxx-chan notice me!!" = simping
---
Participating in the chat = cool
Patronizing other users, acting as knight, trying to regulate the streamer = simp
---
Fapping to your favorite vtuber = super cool
Complaining about people drawing porn of her = simp

The list goes on.

>>423727
Not him but some of these girls would have been popular regardless. I first discovered Gura from her old channel. A camwhore used Gura's "okay boomer" song. That is what lead me to Hololive. Some of Gura's songs have over a million views on her old channel. And most of her videos do not use facerig models.

>>423780
Yeah, this is pretty accurate.

>>423727
Being a popular streamer is literally luck, something you did going viral and people discovering you.
You really think xQc or however it's spelled is the top twitch streamer because he's the most entertaining or something?

>>418719
well we're on the subject: at what point does it become simping?

I've thought to myself: well, I've consumed at least over and hour's worth of their content, either through clips or watching streams, they've entertained me, and this is their work that they're trying to make a living on so aren't they owed at least like 5 bucks?

>>421880
>walk into movie theater
>they offer to let you watch for free
>you give them $100 anyway
If you do this, you are stupid. Simple as.

>>423780
>post a question about the line between support and simping
>scroll up and see this.

Well, thanks for clarifying.

>>423390
Marine is too old to twerk don't bully her.

>>423780
Spot on. If you give money to a streamer to support their content, that's fine. If you do it in hopes that they'll notice you, or you want to improve their mood when they're having a bad day or some shit, you are a degenerate. Carefully examine your donation habits and make sure you're doing it for the right reasons.

>>423255
>Giving money to someone whose "content" is just consuming others peoples content is retarded
I think we're being trolled by one guy. Hololive girls don't just consume other content or play videos games. They improvise their own comedy skits. Subaru accidentally burning down Gura's house in a failed attempt at getting revenge on her for instance. These moments are comedy. Or Coco having Hololive JP read lewd English words.

>>423917
>Gura's house
*Pekora's house*

>>423796
If they would be popular regardless why would they join a company that takes a large chunk of their earnings?

>>423823
Giving someone money who is the same as everyone else except luck seems weird to me

>>423947
Gura has a million subs on her old channel and some of her videos have 9 millions views. Hololive's community is massive. They have around 40 girls and hundred of thousands of subscribers for each channel. No one person could ever compete with that. On the flip side, a lot of these girls wouldn't be successful if not for Hololive and the interactions they got with other Hololive members.
https://trackholo.live/en/

>>423990
That's literally every industry.
You could even count luck as something you need to be born in a family decent enough that you end up getting a higher education and a well paying job. There's outliers of course.

>>423904
>you want to improve their mood when they're having a bad day or some shit, you are a degenerate
Wait, why is that a bad thing?

>>423823
>>423990
Success is a combination of luck and preparation. A lot of channels on youtube got lucky and have over 20 million views, but if you look at their channel all of their other videos only have 1k views. That's because they didn't practice hard enough or lacked charisma to benifit from their viral video. These Hololive girls have all demonstrated an ability to maintain a fanbase. They aren't one hit wonders.

>>424075
>Give 80%+ of your generated revenue to a company to promote you
>It's their personal skill I swear these girls are better than the other streamers

>>424070
Millions of people have bad days across the world everyday. You would have to be on the SIMP spectrum to think one person deserves money to cheer them up over the millions who are suffering.

>>422222
Checked

>>424039
>That's literally every industry.
No it's the entertainment industry.
Except you don't really have to work hard in the same way as if you were an actor or musician
It's all marketing

>>424110
>you can't help everyone, therefore you can't help no one
Geez, I guess that I'll never confort my IRL friends when they're having a shitty day then.

>>424103
That's not what anyone is saying, but I'm also not going to go search through the mud on youtube and twitch in case I find another good streamer that's not popular yet when Hololive is already doing that for me.

>>424070
Because then you're investing yourself in the emotions of a person who has no idea you exist. The transaction is no longer an exchange of money for entertainment, it's now an emotional transaction. It has nothing to do with how much money the streamer makes (although it does become increasingly more pathetic the richer the streamer is), your motive has changed from financially supporting content you enjoy to trying to make someone happy. This is parasocial, and it's unhealthy. You're a number on their screen, but they are much more to you. They're enough to you that you give them money when they're sad. This is an unhealthy dynamic and you should avoid letting things get to this point.

I'm not the one troll guy in this thread, but I have to admit, I do get kinda jealous when I see how much money these girls are pulling in. Gura $380,000 with only 105 videos. All they are doing is being themselves and talking. Compare that to a police officer who is risking their life and working 8am to 9pm shifts and only get $50,000 per year. I don't feel as if they do enough to earn that money. If you took out the SIMP revenue then they would probably get the proper amount of money they deserve. But SIMPs are irrational. Then again, money doesn't make sense in general. A guy like Jeff Bezos makes more money than billions of people combined and there's no way in fuck he works harder than a billion people, so this isn't an issue I have with Hololive but with money in general. I would like a true meritocracy government one day but that's off topic.

>>424150
>These Hololive girls have all demonstrated an ability to maintain a fanbase.
I'm pretty sure that's what this dude was saying
Nothing about the programmers, 3d artists and animators doing a large majority of the work that makes people watch
Again these girls joined hololive because they could not make it on their own
Saying otherwise would be pretty stupid or every big solo streamer would want to join if it was a actual good career move and not a last chance to not get a real job

>>424225
>Compare that to a police officer who is risking their life and working 8am to 9pm shifts and only get $50,000 per year.
Police officers are very, very rarely killed in the line of duty. We're talking literally like 100 a year, based on FBI numbers, and half of those are accidental (i.e. not felonious).

A better frame of reference would be a teacher, a professional that's essential to the fabric of society but is very poorly compensated.

>>424243
>Again these girls joined hololive because they could not make it on their own
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWNvlyycWzQ

>9,369,522 views
>1.09 subscribers
>senzaawa aka Gura
Okay Boomer. Alright I need to stop feeding the one troll guy in this thread. I got shit to do. You guys feed him.

>>424329
>She was super popular man
>She had tons of views and subs
>Look at these numbers I'm sure she was making bank!
>She just joined a company that takes a chunk of her revenue for fun
>Don't mind that her live viewer numbers are the same as those with half the subs
>Please like the girl i spend all day watching and don't point out that I'm pathetic for giving her money
>She is special and does something nobody else can!

>>424243
>Ina
>couldn't make it on her own
NGMI

>>424243
>Again these girls joined hololive because they could not make it on their own.
I agree, but that doesn't mean they aren't good.

>>424491
I'm not sure why people always go to the extremes. Two things can be true at once. Some of the girls wouldn't be successful without Hololive but others would be successful. And some of them aren't successful, with hololive.

>>424070
Because: 1) you're acting as if she's a baby and not a professional; 2) you get them comfortable with the idea that they'll have monetary support as long as they play the sad card; 3) you yourself will become unnecessarily attached to the character. She's not your wife, she's not your gf, you're there to watch a show. Just have fun, be respectful, and move on when it's over.

>>424832
It also perpetuates the false idea of money = happiness. Or money = love when neither are true.

>>418719
I've only donated to Kano. No Holoslut can have my hard earned money (unless it's for an official onahole).

>>422124
>>423860
Please, do tell, who do you think pays the streamers?

>>424225
>got a government job as a """project manager"""(april last year)
>I'm supposed to attend zoom meetings which are a part of the pre-planning/planning stage of the project
>was attending them for the first few weeks(they were happening irregularly but twice a week on average), however nobody ever asked any input from me or even acknowledge me, they were just talking about some bureaucratic bullshit with literally ZERO(0) relation to my field(IT)
>stop attending the meetings, check my inbox once in a while to see if somebody needs me
>haven't been emailed by anybody TO THIS DAY, and I'm still receiving a big fat """management""" position paycheck to do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING
oh boy, are you in for a rude awakening once you realize how the world really works...

>>418719
What is the current definition of simping. Is it giving money? Is it just liking a female? Can you stan a female? Is it simping if it's a guy? I unironically feel out of touch with these stupid fucking buzzword.

As a pin up artist, It is our ethnic to show support to the owner of OCs we made fan arts of, membership and donate are the solid proof for that.

>>418719
there is a difference between simping and donating to a streamer you enjoy

>>418719
giving money to women you will never meet just for saying your imaginary internet name is not sane or healthy, get therapy

>>418748
You're going to be so disappointed when you realize that calling people "election tourists" isn't actually going to make them vanish because they've been here longer than you.

>>426404
It's arguably donating money to a vtuber that makes you a simp in the same way that spending money on idols delineates idolfags from people who merely like idols.

>>426795
How about if I'm giving the money to men?

>>421880
You should be buying their merch, not donating $100 and telling them they help you get through depression you retard

>>422771
You are 100% doing it for a parasocial relationship, enjoy vtubers as improv anime and not as a virtual waifu you fucker

>>423780
pretty much this

>>426840
Your using of "simp" in any context means you haven't been here longer than anyone, election tourist.

>>427014
Yes, I'm sure you know exactly why I'm doing it. Fucking mouth breather.

>>427138
You are 100% a lonely guy who instead of spending his hard earned money and effort on bettering himself, and instead obsesses about imagined relationships with virtual women he fantasizes about online with other, desperate men in the same situation as he is

I'm not saying you can't live like that, but that other anon calling you parasocial is 100% a fact

>>426795
It's not fundamentally different from giving musicians money for busking

>>423860
Retard.

Counterpoint: Even if simps are pathetic, they are a necessary evil in the world of vtubing. Like many other endeavors, making good content as a vtuber requires money. Vtubing without any money involved (e.g. merely as a hobby) is admirable, but it necessarily means infrequent streams and upper limits on the type of content you can produce. With that in mind, what methods are available for generating revenue as a vtuber? There are really only two. You either go the Kizuna Ai route of becoming a product/brand ambassador for hire, or you accept donations from simps. The latter route is
arguably less distasteful than the former, and there aren't really any other options.
>inb4 "they should instead focus on selling (product or service) as their main source of revenue!"
Doing this requires significant overhead and is also risky. If you commission a run of real merch (i.e. not crappy T-shirts or signed cards) that doesn't sell, it could unironically ruin you. Even if it does sell, there's no guarantee how long it could actually take to sell. There's also the consideration that commissioning real merch is expensive and would almost certainly require taking out loans. It's unworkable as a main source of revenue, which is why no one uses it as such.

>>427336
Hey I'm not that guy, but this is projection straight up. Coming from a guy that has never donated.

>>424433
Just for you I'm gonna donate an empty red aka next time she streams.

>>427336
You wanna talk about it, Anon?

>>418719
why would you use the derogatory term just say support you fucking autist

>Here's your weekly red superchat, my queen. Could you please say your catch phrase for me again?

>>423538
anon i dont think of it like that its like tipping a busker to me but im sure some faggots are in it for the gfe
Not everyone who donates is a simp but every simp donates

>>427556
Support and SIMPing aren't the same thing. Read the thread and get educated on the terminology next time before posting. You've added nothing to the conversation.

>>427644
op was a fag and didnt explain himself even then if you are trying to be positive about your position why would you use a term meant to call you a pathatic pay piggy loser when you want to come off as sympathetic

>>423860
you go to American restaurant you dont have to tip but you do so anyways

>>423151
This is so disingenuous it's hilarious. As if tons of lonely men aren't mentally ill and giving the girls cash because it gets a reaction and they feel like the streamer is their friend. Like the idol industry in Japan, it's preying on the mentally ill.
>muh logical fallacies
Reddits over there buddy.

The correct term is paypig, newfag.

What bothers me is how they obviously bait for superchats. Which feels scummy to me. Like when Rushia “crys”. Or they go on a break that isn’t even needed. Then when they come back they get flooded with superchats. Stuff like that is messed up

>>427481
Do you know what findom is? You're on that level buddy.

>>423780
yeah this is about it unless you are trust fund kid or some sort of fucking payed employee you shouldnt do either of the things on the simp side

>>424110
i mean depends on if the person also helps out anyone else they can then again that devolves into the selfishness is a circle argument of helping people for the sake of making your self feel good

>>427834
What makes you think that Rushia wasn't actually upset when that longtime fandead called her a sellout? Parasocial relationship shit cuts both ways, and we know enough about who she really is--an unmarried chick from the sticks who recently moved to the big city who was working as a part-time dishwasher before she became a necromancer--for it to be believable that she was hurt by it.

>>427460
i mean yeah simps are a necessity but must be monitored so they dont become hyper stalkers

>Let the priestess enjoy her own adventure

>>427836
Had to Google it. Not a good look you know all these terms man. What are you accomplishing coming on here and accusing people and trying to validate yourself with strangers?

>tfw you learn the one troll guy in this thread is actually Britanny Venti and is still jealous that Gura makes more in one stream than she's made in 3 years as a camwhore.

>>428185
>you know what arachnophobia is, guess you're afraid of spiders
The fucking state of you paypigs

>>418748
buzzword tourist
go back
>>>return to where you came from

>>426279
>project manager slacking on the job
there's a circle of hell waiting for managers who don't do their planning reps

>>428234
She loons like Eliot Roger.

>>418719
>simping is bad
it's bad when it is actually hopeless. It's nothing but an illusion

>spend half my paycheck on my favourite chuubas every month
>I'm EOP so I can barely understand what they're saying or how they're reacting
How far gone am I? Keep in mind I still have enough leftover for bills and food. Donating to my oshi has become my only source of dopamine.

>>426279
I'm a super liberal but goverment jobs are mostly bullshit. You always end up with several guys standing around in a circle with their dicks in their hand doing nothing as they leech off of tax payer money. The government usually gives them massive budgets and doesn't hold them acountable. This happens much less in the private sector because greedy CEOs put a lot of things in place to make sure you aren't slacking off and wasting their limited money.

>>428234
I find it extremely ironic that gura looks almost like venti with less curly hair and lighter skin, irl

How much of Hololive's superchat revenue do you think is linked to the covid pandemic? A lot of nations have lockdowns and paid people to stay at home. People are more likely to burn their free covid bucks because they didn't work to earn it. In the summer when I discovered Gura I was making 830 USD per week for like 6 months doing nothing.

>>428698
Why not just do drugs at that point?
Why whale?

>>428698
There needs to be therapy for guys like this. Or some type of support system. You would be better off spending your money on meth or coke.

>>429003
>>429112
You guys would rather I do hardcore drugs instead of watching anime girls playing video games? To me it's just a hobby. Isn't it normal to spend that much on a more expensive hobby?

>>428816
Hard to say. More people are at home, but a lot of the sort of people that would watch v-tubers are more likely to be at home anyway.

You could also look at the pandemic as having restricted job opportunities, which leads to less disposable income. Hard to say how things will look when the pandemic settles down and things return to "normal". I would imagine the growth continues all the same, but perhaps slower.

>>429261
these guys are just retarded, there are much worse ways to spend money(drugs and shit like gambling...)

>>429261
Doesn't sound like you really enjoy it, but let's say you do. If so, then I think it's fine. It's only a problem if you're hampering your ability to handle bills and food, which you said you aren't. And if you aren't forming any parasocial relationships and purely keep it as entertainment, then you're fine. Keep it up paychad.

>>429261
There's nothing wrong with having an expensive hobby but there is such thing as unhealthy hobbies. I used drugs as a comparison because it's an example of an unhealthy hobby that should be frowned upon.

>>429329
You make a good point. Hololive's fanbase are the few people who aren't affected by the pandemic. They were always practiciing social distancing. They rarely went out and traveled or participated in social events like going to the movies or bars.

>>429386
wasting money on streamers and destroying yourself with drugs isn't really comparable

>>429372
>these guys are just retarded, there are much worse ways to spend money(drugs and shit like gambling...)
Hard drugs like meth are the strongest pleasure you could feel in your life. Imagine the best orgasm you've felt multiplied by 10 and being able to feel that feeling every time you smoke it. It's hard to express. Also, usually when people are doing hard drugs they're doing it with other drug users having 48 hour sex marathons. Drugs will ruin your life I'm not going to lie, but at least you'll die with ultimate pleasure. SIMPing away half your money for no real purpose is not better. He could burn that money and it wouldn't make a different cause hololive girls will still be producing content for him so he's honestly just wasting money. Do not do drugs btw, once that genie is out of the bottle you'll never be able to go back. It's like the first time your discovered an orgasm as a kid. Yes you could stop jerking off, but can you really ever quit jerking for ever. All addicts are perma cursed.

>>429444
Trips of truth confirms.

>>429372
Let's look at the dumbest things you could do with your paycheck.

>1) Burn all your money away.
This is fucking stupid.
>2) SIMP all your money away.
This is dumb and no different from burning your money. It's not like your entertainment is going to vanish if you stop giving money. Hololive offers their content for free.
>3) Spending all your money on gambling.
You have the potential of quadrupling your investment. This is risky and it might become addicting, so it too is bad.
>4) Spending all your money partying with hard drugs and whores.
Ultimate pleasure, the likes of which, can't be obtained by doing anything else in life. The downside of this is dying, STDs, getting robbed, arrested, losing your house/car/job etc and feeling empty the next day as you wait for your next fix and for your brain to recover.

Drugs are the worst on this list, but just SIMPing away your money isn't that much better to be honest. They're all bad hobbies and until you admit you have a problem there's no hope for you.

I would superchat only if the Vtuber talks to me.
This is probably one of the reasons why I hang around low-number JOP Vtubers and speak English or GoogleTranslated Japanese.
I don't try to derail the with my English fa**otry. If they answer back or say 'Hi Anon!' I'll stick around and speak Japanese. I can understand basic Japanese, but I have to listen real, REAL close to my translates question to catch the answer.
Always try to stay on topic. Like one Vtuber was playing Genshin, so I asked or talked about the game. I told her my favorite was Barbara, and the girl exclaimed she liked Barbara too!
So awesome.
Most girl Vtubers I watch get recommended by ASMR, so if they have a live stream ASMR, I will donate 5-15$ as a thanks for interaction.

In essense, I'm like a creepy weeb stalking girl Vtubers for their attention. Feels good for a bit.

Whatever, at least I get some attention from women. :(

>>430230
So you fit into the category of people who send money because they want attention or want to become the topic of the show. Or perhaps you fit into the category of people who send messages because they want to contact the creator and don't think their messgage will be heard by other means of communication.

I don't like people who interrupt live streams in order to try to hijack the topic. We tune in for the streamer, not to hear the viewers.

>>430377
...I do not donate to derail the topic at hand. I donate to explicitly say thanks. Like, this in both English and Japanese.
> I really like your ASMR! Thank you for making them! I wish you good luck in the future!

For regular chat, I don't try to blend in the best I can.

But yeah, pretty much. That's why I called myself creepy.

>>429856
you have absolutely no clue how dangerous gambling can, gambling addicts who are in deep can end up acting like heroin junkies, not only damaging their mental well being and finances, but stealing money and other shit from family/others to support their addiction. I know a guy who developed massive anxiety problems due to his gambling addiction, he ended up being indebt loads of cash to loansharks, had to run away to a different country. This was a few years ago, don't know what happened to him after that but I doubt it was a happy ending. As far as I know simping for vtubers can't damage you in such a manner. As long as the person doing it is happy where's the harm? He can still "put his life back on track" easily if he stops extracting pleasure from it. Unless you can show me studies that showcase the damage that can be done by simping to vtubers, you and the other anons who equate vtubers to drugs and gambling can fuck off.

>>430230
>In essense, I'm like a creepy weeb stalking girl Vtubers for their attention. Feels good for a bit.
Well at least you're honest. But you're doing it wrong. When I was younger I engaged in the e-stalking girls with 2d persona game, but in my case it lead to a long distance relationship. Youtube, twitch, and twitter aren't platforms to facilitate a relationship. It's never going to happen there. You have to find girls that have tumblr/deviantart. Also, any social network that allows you to slide into their DMs can work in theory. You need a sport where you and the girl can talk in private. As long as your communications are in public it will never go anywhere.

>>430549
>As far as I know simping for vtubers can't damage you in such a manner.
Vtubers have only been in the mainstream for a year or 2 now. In a decade from now we'll probably start hearing documentations about SIMPing gone wrong. Guys breaking up with their gf because they were caught SIMPing. Or someone getting assaulted IRL over a SIMP war.

Give it time.

>>430549
The SIMP we're talking about spent half his paycheck on bills and the remainder on SIMPing. If his SIMPing problem develops and he starts cutting into his rent money then he's no different from a gambler or drug addict. Except in the case of SIMPing you don't the same return on investments.

the actual use of Simping is bad, the internet just over used the word to the point that it means nothing now

>>430562
Eh...I donate as more of thanks for interaction and nothing more.
I'm not trying to be best friends...it's more like paying so someone acknowledges my presence.
Once I donate, I return to being a lurker and maintain a neutral consumer.


I used to go around NND and spam me English ret*rdness on the live streams. I felt bad after someone asked me to speak in Japanese as he couldn't understand English.
Said 'gomen' and never returned.

>>430762
The beta males who SIMP are trying to rewrite the words meaning so that it can't be used against them. Kinda like how blacks say "nigga" and women call each other "bitches". They're trying to make SIMP into a comedic act of shame that can be done for attention.

>>430887
I've read all of your post and I come to the conclusion that you aren't a SIMP. You are just a supporter of content creators.

>>427603
this but unironically

>>428293
why do retards always make shit analogies and think they made a great point?

>>430642
I don't doubt that such things will happen, there are always nutcases, the question however is can it influence "normal" people to become such nutcases? Such things require actual studies and not a few isolated incidents.
>>430716
You're just speaking hypotheticals, you can make the same argument for literally anything that way. It's a fact that both gambling and drug usage have major addictive predispositions. Can the same be said for simping? If you show me the evidence that it has I'll gladly change my opinion on it, however I doubt it. I do agree that spending half of your paycheck on vtubers is retarded, however that's just that anon being retarded, he could've burned that money and it would've been equally retarded(maybe a bit more if he doesn't derive as much pleasure from burning money as simping?), that doesn't make the activity itself dangerous.

>>431012
I guess I am.
At least someone benefits, eh?

>>430762
Sorry but large superchats still fall into the original definition of simping, both for men and women and both towards men and women.
If you'd buy your male friend a drink at the bar to celebrate something, or a round of shots,, that's one thing, then sure the equivalent $5/$10/$20 in a superchat isn't really simping.
But unless you're the type that regularly just gives your friends money doing it to some stranger is 100% simping. The dilution of the word simp will not change that, just as the dilution of the word incel doesn't mean actual incels suddenly stopped existing

>>431025
>>431053
Sheeeeit, thanks.
But, it seems its just gaming content. Her last ASMR on YouTube is nearly a year old.
I hope she comes back.

>>430762
This. Normies have no self control and drive everything they get their hands on into the ground. Same thing they did with weeb, incel, based, boomer, etc

>>423485
The problem is simping went from its derogatory meaning to "giving any woman any amount of money for any reason". So of course people are going to equate it with tipping and say it's actually OK in certain cases.

>>430960
It's more the content creators than anything.
When the word simp held meaning and felt insulting, it affected the revenue a content creator would make, as the non donating crowds would usually laugh at said person for wasting so much money and they'd be less likely to do it again.
By having content creators (that one creaky cringey video from I think pokimane but might have been someone else) say simping is a good thing, by having mods crack down on people that use it as an insult, and force the creation of words and memes to make it look like a compliment these donations no longer felt dissuaded to continue donating what many couldn't even afford. Twitch banning the word simp as an insult is the most blatant example and shows that phrase was affecting their bottom line enough to do something about it.

>>431298
Best Post ITT

>>424308
>A better frame of reference would be a teacher, a professional that's essential to the fabric of society but is very poorly compensated.
They work 9 months out of the year and get great benefits like all the other public sector employees what are you talking about? Every year it's the exact same argument, "teachers must be paid more". How much should they be paid and why?

>>432038
In the USA teachers need to be paid more. Our biggest issue in America are dumbfucks and teachers are our only solution to that problem. We need teachers being the best they can be, not worrying about making rent.

Now professors on the other hand are overpaid, they get tenure so they can't be fired for being incompetent, and a lot of them are shit at half their job because they only got into it for research and not teaching.

>>432340
Teachers here make $50k-70k. How are you failing to make rent on that? Should they all be making 6 figures? And don't forget the benefits and pensions they get on top of that.

>>432470
Rent in some areas such as New York city is $2,500 per month which comes up to $30,000 per year and that's before utilities. And New York is only the 4th most expensive place to live in the USA. $50k - $70k is enough to survive on but you'll just be doing that. Surviving and making rent/car payments and paying off your student loans. You need a salary of $80k to live comfortably in the USA in all 50 states.

>>432676
>New York city
found the problem

>>418719
because membership included i've wasted over $50 on a fucking 2D JPEG and never read any of them

>>432676
>And New York is only the 4th most expensive place to live in the USA
Wow whoa it's almost like shithole major cities are heavily overpriced due to the fact that their residents tend to lean towards professional/executive careers, and aren't really priced in for minimum wage salarycucks
Who knew?

>>432676
$10k to 40k - Not livable without government assistance.
$50k to $60k - Livable
$75k to $80k - Living comfortably and enjoying life

>>426208
Ads, sponsors, the company they work for, merch, live show tickets, the million other idiots who pay for the free show. Save your money you dolt

>>432776
dpends on state and county. 75k in NYC in manhattan aint shit.

>>431577
>Twitch banning the word simp as an insult is the most blatant example and shows that phrase was affecting their bottom line enough to do something about it.
Youtube will be doing the same too. Derogatory words like SIMP exists for a reason. They are in place to shame people for engaging in behavior that is bad for themselves and/or the public. When I was younger and first got into dating I didn't know any better and would SIMP to girls to win their affection. Little did I know that behavior like that turned them off. Affection can't be purchased. A girl will take a bad boy over an overly nice SIMP any day of the week. SIMPing goes beyond just money too. It's when you are acting too nice to a girl in hopes she'll like you, but it's futile because that shit is superficial. I don't want other males making this mistake.

>>432820
I know someone in New York who makes $80k and he's just staying above water. With that money it's enough to make rent and pay down debt and occasionally dineout but that's pretty much it.

I don't get it desu. They already make much, much more than you ever will, the loss of money for you is much more significant than their gain, especially with youtube and cover taking huge cuts. I can see donating to some small chuubas that struggle to get by and will actually appreciate it, but not to huge names like holos.

People SIMPing and giving money to vtubers with 6 figure salaries is not as bad as drugs, but the collective damage it might cause if scaled out could be bad for humanity. That $80 you SIMP'd could have went to paying down a debt. One guy SIMP'd as much as $2000, that could have been a down payment on a car or a doctor appointment for granny. Not to mention the hundreds of man hours wasted watching these videos that could have went to more productive things like learning a new skill such as programming.

>>418748
Anon I've been in the 2k plus hours factorio mancave too, the tism is a strong one in my life. But from what autistic hole did your troglodyte ass crawl out from.

its not like this shit is any different from patreon crap other content creators use

imagine getting upset what other people do with their money
typical seanigger behaviour

>>434427
No actually it's worse here, as there's genuine retards who treat it as a parasocial relationship.

>>434461
>Imagine paying google and cover rather than your oshi.

>>434672
i simp for yagoo

>>434427
Nah it's actually worse because in a normal content creator patreon type thing goods and/or content are actually produced at some point and there are probably tangible rewards. You'll probably even end up in a credits section if it's a relatively small thing.
Here your donating for the feeling that someone cares (they probably do not) which not only provides nothing but keeping you hooked if you feel for this, but is also mostly fake

>>434824
>You'll probably even end up in a credits section if it's a relatively small thing.
this is literally superchat reading you fucking tourist

Crowd funding platforms almost always lead to abuse. Look at the yandere simulator guy and the monster girl island guy. They're making hundreds of thousands off of those projects and have no intent on ever finishing them. And if you were in their situation and you had 12,000 patreon morons giving you 10$ a month, would you ever finish the game? I surely as fuck wouldn't. I would wait until the patreon well dried up before making any changes. But the thing about Patreon is that as soon as someone gets mad and leaves there's always a new victim to take their place.

>>435195
>star citizen
>many early access scams
>BL faggots gatekeeping vn translations
its all the same shit

Look at this asshat. 12,872 patrons giving anywhere from $1 to $10 per month. On the most extreme example let's do 12,000 patrons * $10 = $60,000 per month in revenue. That's $720,000 per year in revenue before taxes and Patreon takes their cut. And this guy has been at this for over 5 years now, so he's already pulled in a million. But if it's not broke why fix it. Just keep making fake promises that you are going to release the game. He would be a moron if he actually released the game and ruined that stream of easy revenue.

>>418719
>Giving a few bucks to a streamer you like.
That's cool

>Giving $200 to a streamer.
That's cringe

>>434752
USA fans seem to like him but Japan is indifferent about him. The idols don't seem to like him for comedic sake.

Deleting thousands of dollars from your bank account and having nothing to show for it at the end of the day is bad though. I'm sure even the girl getting it is like 'heres this fucking loser again, commenting my .JPEG avatar's eyes again and calling me a hero for playing Minecraft.' It just reeks of desperation. Having said that, I do SC reasonable amounts ($10-20) every so often as a tip, and I usually use those gay ass stickers so they don't need to read more bullshit.

>>435893
>I'm sure even the girl getting it is like 'heres this fucking loser again, commenting my .JPEG avatar's eyes again and calling me a hero for playing Minecraft.' It just reeks of desperation.
I think you would be surprised that this is in fact how most girls react to males SIMPing. I learned this the hard way when I was younger. You can't act overly nice to girls or shower them with money/gifts. That turns them off. They like men who are somewhat bad boys and don't apologize for anything.

>>434461
>people overpay low effort
>spoil the vtuber and spoil the fun
Every action has a consequence.

>>435963
I'm not an expert in girls but I don't think that generalizing will do you any good.

>>428754
Nobody asked for your opinion liberal.

>people get mad when you pour money into gacha
>people get mad when you pour money into vtubers
>people get mad when you pay for games
>people get mad when you pirate games
>jews get mad when you invest in dying companies
>banks get mad when you hoard money and not invest

>>435963
Actually, I have seen some do exactly that live. Some acting tame throwing a sarcastic joke, others taking off their mask partially during free chat with liquor. Anywhere in the medium says those behind avatars should be single or good hearted, instead vtubers tend to degrade themselves as money bring them possibilities to play anything in all kind of sense.

what the fuck am i supposed to do with my money then

>>436405
Buy a house and car that has a long lifespan. And put the rest in savings/investments. Use your money to buy things with long term value. These girls make enough money from membership they don't need any more money.

>>436356
I would never drink if I was one of them. When you are drunk your real emotions can come out. One time I was out drinking with coworkers I despised at a company I despised and the truth came out of me. I told all of them off. I'm surprised the Hololive girls haven't gotten into more trouble yet while drunk.

>>428042
Fuck off Jolly

>>435357

>12,000 * 10 = 60,000

>>436987
Despite all critics, Hololive members are pressured by staff. And that’s a good plus for them. Nijisanji girls reputation would be Hololive next stop if they let them free. Not because they are bad people, but because behind scenes for sure they have those friends that love to corrupt others under the guise of experiencing new things.

>>418719
>You consider yourself a simp

Youre actually human garbage and mentally ill, even pedophiles have more self respect than you

>>437019
The fact that it took this long for anyone to point out a math typo makes me feel less embarrassed. They probably accepted the number as fact due to their lack of math skills. But the point still stands, that little fucker is making bank. He's been doing this for years too.

12,872 patrons * $12 = $144,000 per month.
$144,000 * 12 months = $1,728,000 per year

And that fucker has been doing this for several years now. So regardless of how much Patreon and Uncle Sam take out of that revenue, he's filthy rich by now. And he has no intention of ever releasing the game. These are the most extreme numbers though and it's likely most of his Patreons are only giving $1 per month but still that's a lot.

>>435963
I would disagree. They appreciate SCs that make them laugh, but there is a correlation between amount of money being SC'ed and 'I want to lock you in my basement' energy.

>onlyfans good
>vtubers bad

>>435963
>They like men who are somewhat bad boys and don't apologize for anything.
That only really works IRL and even then, only some circumstances (depends on type of woman, you gotta be physically attractive). Online you're just going to come off as a dickhead. When it comes to vTubers, they generally appreciate SCs that make them laugh. Unfortunately for them, there is a correlation between amount of $ being SC'ed and 'Cringe schizo that wants to lock them in their basement' energy so being funny usually goes out the window.

>>437402
Of course not retard. You only need to show proof that you are "working" on the game and patreon will never shut it down. Eventually it will get released tho, as a buggy unplayable mess with extreme shit gameplay and mediocre sex scenes. This is what it means to be a real jew.

Dw tho anons, ill make a true monster girl game for you all one day maybe.

>>422222
but he's right tho

>>418719
Imagine thinking 'fun things' are this. You're worthless. Anyone who likes vtubers needs to suicide

>SIMP
>Sucker
>Idolizing
>Mediocre
>Pussy
Isn't that exactly what vtuber viewers do?
Some girl who has no talents or looks to sell so they use a anime avatar to get weebs.
Literally giving money to women who could not become models/musicians/actors.
Idolizing mediocre girls

>>437234
I mean patreon takes a cut so I thought you were accounting for that.

>>437671
What is SC?

>>446015
Reps.
mind you, only maybe 1/4 of them are actually hot, I'll grant you that much, with another 1/4 being "I'd settle" material, but the implication that they're all disgusting goblinos is objectively wrong.

>>451919
>Nobody cared who they were because they put on the mask
Most of them are typical Jap streamers who hide their faces because muh cultural stigma, and of the ones we've seen maskless they're clear trogs.

>>452072
>t. roommateposter trying to lure people into self-banning to "disprove" him

>>446015
Gura has a million subscribers on her other channel. And her music videos like "okay bomer" has over 9 million views. She would have been successful regardless if she got into Hololive or vtubing.

>>418719
>donating to VTubers is simping

I don't think that word means what you think it means.

>>420608
I try to buy games from indie devs whose games I enjoy to support them

>>427082
You are actually retarded
How did you manage to evade your handler long enough to post?

>>426946
This is the only right answer. You are getting a tanagible product in return. Its fine to throw them $10 or $20 every now and than but to the guys donating a shitton it just makes me sad.

>>453671
>It's not simping if the pussy is virtual
>The avatar makes them different than the thots using their real faces
I'm more surprised by the denial than the actual simping
Like vtuber simps desperately don't want to be what they clearly are

>>453782
So you don't really get what "simping" means. Gotcha.

>The avatar makes them different than the thots using their real faces

>>453782
I'll say the issue is simping for vtubers is the new waifuspending. When i look at it through this lens it makes perfect sense

>>453807
Simp is spelled out over here:
>>446015
Care to explain how vtubers are different?

>>453820
>Some girl who has no talents

Except a good VTuber has to rely on her personality and talents to be successful, you stupid fucking moron. For argument's sake, let's take Hololive. All of them have entertaining personalities; most can sing well, many have other talents such as drawing or skill in certain games.

Take in contrast your average Twitch e-thot who is void of any personality whatsoever and barely has any talent or creativity. The only reason they're still standing is thanks to suckers donating to them because of their face or body.

I'm probably responding to bait at this point but w/e. Either way kill yourself.

>>453903
>getting this upset for being called out for simping
If you think the vtuber crowd is talented then you have a pretty low bar
They are normal girls with no remarkable skills
They are hobbyist level in singing/drawing/dancing
That's why it's simping
They are mediocre. The same level you find everywhere
You from the 3rd world in Asia somewhere?

>>453951
What do you think of idolfags or people into celebrities?

>>454122
The same thing
I'd say it's a bit different if you buy a movie, game or music
But giving money directly to an actor, musician or gamedev for no reason is retarded

>>454186
How is giving money to an idol or celebrity simping? Vtubers are one thing, but idols--actual idols like AKB's main group--and celebrities are by definition exceptional and not mediocre.

>>454246
Do you pay for their products or just transfer money to them when you see them on TV?

>>454342
Fucking normalfags. Do you not know how AKB voting works?

>>454435
Nope I'm not a lonely simp

>454446
Being an idolfag is by definition not simping. Either way, thanks for showing everyone that you're a normalfag arguing in bad faith. Not even worth a (you).

>>418748
Imagine getting so triggered from a single word that's actually correct.

>>436866
>Buy a house and car that has a long lifespan. And put the rest in savings/investments. Use your money to buy things with long term value. These girls make enough money from membership they don't need any more money.
Why

>>418719
I don't speak nigger.

>>418719
It's a sign that your life is so empty that you have to pay money to feel a connection with another human being.
And it's a fake connection at that.

>>429856
You are painfully retarded if you think that those are the only things you can do with your money.

Funny because women wasting money on kpop and tiktok crap are ok but wasting money on vtubers are bad

>>454830
How do you waste money on tiktok?

>>454597
You should be able to understand what "simp" mean then because its only used white teenagers and Egirls

>>424225
life isn't fair. get used to it. the amount of happiness that gura gives to people is easily worth what she makes from it.

>>455172
>A large enough part of the population is disenfranchised and lonely
>Therefor a person capitalizing on misery deserves money

>>455483
>capitalizing on misery
You are fucking retarded. That is like saying someone selling blankets is capitalizing on the misery of the cold.

>>455518
Except the blanket would help the situation while "influensers"/"personalities" make it worse for the targeted audience long term

>>455548
>blanket would help the situation
Real men just shiver blankets are for simps

>>455600
Real men would have a blanket/clothes ready before it was cold

>>455642
what if I'm involuntary blanketless

>>455691
Find a friend or get professional help

>>418719
Simping is fruitless labor.
You give them money and gain nothing in return.
You defend them online and praise all they do and gain nothing in return.
Everything you do additionally to just watching them is a waste of time.
People who do nothing but watching them get the same benefits you do.
Oh? You are a member and can watch those member only streams?
Oops, looks like someone uploaded those streams and everyone has access to it.

Does that answer your question OP?

Why do you care so much about what other people do with their money

>>456188
It gives him (you)

>op makes a stealth /qa/ containment thread
Good on ya' OP.

>>456188
Just trying to help people that are in a bad phase of their lives being exploited by a system that keeps them in that phase for longer than needed

>>457277
i make plenty of money and i spend a minuscule amount of my income on my oshi.

>>457299
Still spending time watching empty content as a substitute for real human companionship

>>455855
>Oops, looks like someone uploaded those streams and everyone has access to it.
So basically always pirate games, movies and series.

>>457318
get over it

>>457370
Stop coping and take the steps to get your life back on track

>>457426
>stop liking things you like
>you need to live your life based on what i determine is good for you

>>457478
>I want to give my money to a girl I don't know
>She is worth it I swear
>Stop telling me how to live my life dad
>This is a totally normal and healthy thing to do
Never even told you what to do other than stop being manipulated by girls who pretend to have anime personalities

>>457426
i refuse. even if you somehow talk me out of enjoying vtubers, i am not going to go out on dates or something like that. i lost interest in that shit 15 years ago. THAT was a waste of my time and money with people only interested in exploiting my misery.

>>457564
>supporting content creators who produce content i enjoy is considered manipulation

>>457592
>I enjoy people faking everything to a science to exploit on my weeb personality
>Not manipulation because I need it to cope with my life instead of changing it

>>457570
Sounds hard man
I know some people get betrayed and have a hard time trusting people after that
Finding good people can be hard depending on what you like
Still, spending time watching someone else live their life is not the way forward

>>457634
>i have to change my life in accordance with some anon's opinions on a mongolian basket weaving imageboard

>>457662
i'm perfectly happy with my friends and family and have been for a long time. i think you have a very limited and ignorant amount of life experience for someone getting as uppity and condescending as you've been in this thread. you should consider sitting back and learning from others for quite a long time before you open your mouth again.

>>457683
>Stop doing one thing that people do to cope with a shitty life situation
>No I refuse I will keep doing the thing that will keep me in the situation
Again what have I told you to do other than cut one disruptive part out of your life
To make an extreme example anyone can say to someone doing heroin that it's a bad thing and they should stop using it to cope and get their life back on track

>>418839
Thats a good Chumbuddy

>>457728
>stop liking that thing you like, i think it's disruptive

>>457725
>He says sitting at home watching people play video games instead of playing with friend and family

>>457738
>I wonder why suicide and depression is higher amongst internet addicts my man
You can cope all you want, but hopefully someone you trust will tell you that it's not healthy

>>457790
>i came into a thread about people talking about a topic they enjoy, how dare they continue to enjoy this?
>i'm gonna come in and show them what a real man is like
that's pretty toxic masculinity of you anon, why are you so insecure that you need to come here and virtue signal like this?

>>457815
I came into this thread for people simping claiming they are not simping

>>457833
sounds pretty insecure of you. maybe you should cut this kind of stuff out of your life, seems disruptive. go and live a real life instead of being butthurt that people with disposable income spend it on things they enjoy

>>457878
>Your a simp
>Nooo I'm not even when it's literally the definition
>You are insecure for pointing it out
Ofc

>>457634
Anon, you are a fucking retard. Leave this board and return in 5 years, when you 18.

>>458110
Really hit a nerve huh

>no don't give money to content creators
>you could be giving it to meeeeeeee

>>418719
Simping over anyone is cringe. Donating to a streamer is ok if you are simply supporting them, or want to ask them a question, but dropping a bunch of money to have you favorite vtuber say your name so you can coom is kinda cringe

I don't think there's anything bad about supporting someone whose work you enjoy. I draw the line at giving money to people who are already rich though, that's why I only support indies. But you guys do you.

>>457908
>B-b-b-b-but you're a simp!
Just admit it you lost.

Pay the superchat,simp

>>459803
He is not cute anime girl. Sorry.

>>427603
Based

>>418719
1) "simp" doesn't even mean anything. it's a meme word.
2) throwing money at a streamer in order to pretend they're you're friend (which is why everyone does it, be honest) is fucking sad, honestly. even if it's not a cute girl streamer it's still fucking sad.

>>423531
>It's basically Virtual Strip Clubs
yup

>>418719
Simping is bad, you're mentally ill of you think sending money to a virtual avatar is anything but cringe.
Donating to hard-working vtubers is different though

>>418719
>simping
Jesus fuck kill youself dude

>>459803
simps when asked to give 5$ to the homeless vs simps donating 1000$ to a fucking anime shark

>>461211
Giving 5 dollars to a useless junkie piece of shit vs 1000 dollars to a cute girl who provides for my entertainment Tough choice

>>426946
this is the only correct answer. kys if you differ

because being a "sucker idolizing mediocre pussy" is bad. vtubers aren't mediocre, they're entertaining and at least have a semblance of relatability that sets them apart from titty streamers. simping is retarded but you could do worse than vtubers.

>>461310
>1000 dollars to a cute girl
well they're probably middle aged men who want to kill themselves but yeah whatever. I know what my choice would be.

>>461310
If you’ve seen her roommate you know she’s not cute and looks like an sjw. I’d rather give money to a junkie

>>418719
simping for a twitch whore is bad but simping for an anime whore who you are just hoping is attractive, and not a dumpy 4/10 (which most of them are) is seriously, seriously pathetic

>>462079
>he lacks crucial information

>>457277
>loser men spend money on dumb things
>it's the woman's fault
Never understood this line of thinking.

>>462551
You lack it if you think otherwise

>>462274
why does it matter whether she's attractive? i only see her live2d avatar.

Rule #5 article 6 of the man code states: "tho shall not SIMP".