/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>42482387
>Even Elira had an educate yourself moment
GRIM

>>42482387
>>42482566
Kys, it was brought up of that extremely weird SC from the drunk faggot + Alex P existing. Stop trying to make it a bigger deal than it is

>>42482387
>Calls her chat "besties"
>Doesn't want them to think of her as a friend
Why are women like this?

this is what fagelira get for shilling her so hard in the catalog this week
you'll never be friends with her you parasocial fucks

it's okay to listen to vox talk about his foreskin for 5 hours straight, we're friends and coworkers so it's okay and plus I want to hear about his smegma!
But if you make a weird supachat im going to ban you and tell you to fuck off we're not friends and never will be friends, you are just a source of income for me thats all you will ever be.

Instead of Elira Pendora they should call her Elira Pendeja

>meanwhile a year and a half ago
What the fuck happened

>>42482387
Woman moment, might just be word vomit after streaming for 7 hours but she immediately started damage control right after.
I don't watch nijis though, isn't this what you fags signed up for, chuubas that keep it "real"?

This is what she sperged out over btw

>>42482387
So she's just your typical Niji whore who hates her fans after all? Shame.

>>42482767
I understand where she's coming from, that supa is weird, but she should've just banned this weirdo instead of taking it out on the entirety of her fanbase

>>42482387
yikes and i thought she would be one of the good ones

So who's going to add "we'll never be friends" to the "educate yourself" compilation? Dumb ungrateful cunt.

>>42482845
Remember that all the drama-producing whores in NijiEN are art of Elira's nepotism squad. There's no way she's actually a good person if those are her friends. I'll give her credit for never outright yabbing though.

>>42482767
This sounds pretty tame for Niji standards. The livers themselves are far more explicit and they shouldn't really create a double standard for the paying audience.

>>42482767
>see this
>murmur ‘weirdo’, ban him, keep streaming

OR

>see this
>rant at the other 3k unrelated individuals in the audience, reminding them how they’re just a number and to keep their disgusting greasy nerd thoughts to themselves

>>42482902
Why does that bother you so much? Are you back to 0 friends?

>streamer says that she is not a personal friend of all the couple thousand people that watch her (which is a fact)
>/vt/ has an autistic fit over it

>>42482902
welp she earned her spot congrats to her i guess.

>>42482700
>we're friends and coworkers so it's okay
uh she was not wrong

>b-b-but Elira is one of the good ones!!!
Once a niji always a niji. The truth always comes out.
What an absolutely worthless company filled with spiteful bitches that can't just shut up and appreciate their company.

>Niji girl is a bitch
Wow I am completely shocked by this information. My entire world view is being warped

What is wrong with this company? Does the interview screen out anyone who isn't a cunt?

>this person I have never met and who doesn't even know my name should be my good friend because I watch her stream (assuming anyone here even does)

>>42482959
elira is in the right here but no sexually harassing your coworkers like vox has needs to be stopped

She's not my friend she's my older sister and wife.

>>42483045
Niji recruitment process is basically just them sorting applicants by sub count and then saying "welcome"

It's time to just nip this nijishit in the bud once and for all. Are there any clips of Rosemi being a bitch to her chat?

Every EN will let you down and show their true colors eventually. EN was a mistake.

>>42483076
>but I love you guys and you're really important to me (please keep giving me money)
Damn that's crazy. Should have kept her mouth shut.

>>42482907
This desu

all relationships are based on what you can get out of it does she really think this is any different it always has been transactional

Nijisanji ATMs...

>>42483205
As a collective
Because personally caring about every individual in the 3000+ person audience isn't possible

>>42483205
Just sew both of her mouth closed.

>>42482871
Streamers can't help themselves when they get donations with messages like these. They usually end up responding to them in a non-direct manner and end up implying that a majority of people are doing this exact thing which ends up overshadowing all the actual people not being spastic retards. Even smaller 2views do this which makes it so much worse there when it's literally just a single person but they'll answer in a there-tons-of-people-doing-this kind of way.

>>42483076
This might hold more water if she didn't immediately start damage-controlling right after. Even then you could argue an audience that's explicitly there -just- to be entertained would be even less receptive to being scolded out of nowhere by someone they don't personally know.

And of course, context. This feels like a mask-off moment in the context of what's happened in the past couple of weeks.

>>42482387
Meanwhile Pomu accepts her fans exactly as they are, including all the weird fetishes. Fagelira staylosing.

>>42482387
Just ban the faggot and move on. It's not that hard

>>42483301
I don't think it's damage control if you actually listen to what she's saying. It's just factually true you will never be friends on the personal level like in real life. But you can still love your community and enjoy interacting with it.

>>42482387
Glad to know I picked the right dragon sis. Come home, famelira. She'll never slip up like this.

>>42483328
*blocks your path*

>>42482387
Goes for every streamer and celebrity, but you never see celebrities go and say it to their audience's face. In a way it's better not to bring this kind of topic up.

>>42482387
Are women evil by nature?

>>42483448
>telling you the truth is evil

>>42483412
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96u9mMUoV6Y
*blocks your h0moshart from chat*

>>42483328
>>42483412
Pomu being attached at the hip to this grooming SEA monkey gives me hard vibes of >>42482907.

>>42482387
Dropped

>>42483484

>>42483484
OH NO NO NO LUCUBS NOT LIKE THIS LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Dumb cunt doesn't understand what vtubing is about

>>42483034
Not just any Niji, a Niji "EN". JPs would've either answered without batting an eyelash or laughed.

>>42483484
Pissidachis are truly still mindbroken by the Minecraft incident to this day

>>42483412
lucucks are truly still mindbroken by the Minecraft incident to this day

>laugh it off and block the retard
Or
>go on a rant and blame chat as a whole
Why are western women like this?

>>42483137
>Rosemi being a bitch to her chat?
>SC: Hello my gf I love you so muuuuch
>Gf? I think the gf club is 3 blocks down buddy
She handles parasocial fucks like a champ

>>42483484
Holy based

>>42482915
It’s so simple… Don’t give them attention. Don’t acknowledge the superchat at all or chat’s reactions to it. Why are streamers incapable of grasping this?

>>42483641
Pomudachi deflection post

>>42483484
And he's still blocked from her chat to this day kek
And she never collabed with him anymore after that.

>>42483496
You don't watch her.

Leave it to Pomudachis to get offended by posts in a thread that’s wasn’t even about Bomu

>>42483681
NijiEN is a big family

>>42483448
A lot seem to be ruthlessly manipulative its a very discouraging percentage when compared to the percentage that aren't ruthlessly manipulative.

>>42483675
>>42483528
>>42483412
>itoddler filename
lucuck menhera is at it again i see

>>42483675
Selen and Pomu are best friends, fagoon

Elira's so sweet even when she's tardwrangling her chat she's polite about it. You can tell it's really hard for her to say that and she'd rather not have to.

>>42483736
Now this is a cuck if I ever saw one

>>42483681
They went out of their way to both invade a crab game stream after Luca INVITED pomu

>>42482387
>love you guys so so much
ok what made her put her fans in their place tho

>>42483689
Anymore.
I quit watching everybody I was membered to when Enna went on that weird SJW twitter tour to apologize for offending niggers.

In hindsight, good decision, a pat on the back to my past self for seeing the writing on the wall.

>>42483724
I’m not your boogeyman, faggot

>>42482387
Wait that's it? I thought it was more brutal but she sounded calm. I think she handled it alright compared to certain other chuubas. What exactly is wrong with this?
Also what the fuck is the context? What prompted her to go about this? Is her chat being retarded?

>>42483726
That's not a dragoon, that's the lucuck menhera falseflagging. Dragoons never post from an apple device. Notice how the only itodller filenames before that were from the lucuck.

>>42483328

>>42483709
Nice deflect Lucuck, maybe read who the thread properly

>>42483709
Many such cases

>>42483782
Niji bad, anything Niji do yab
Context was someone sending an overtly sexual SC and her not wanting those kinds of things

>>42483806
>maybe read who the thread properly

>>42483799
Hi there /#/chama.

>>42483762
Shes almost crying over even having to speak up. Thats her natural personality extremely avoidant of all conflict.

>>42483782
Alex P one of her top donors and she can't ban him, and he keeps complaining about her NTRing her fans with the males. So she's trying hard to convince him to stop posting these messages and superchats. He's the hero we deserve.

>>42483786
You're right, my bad.

>>42482387
Meanwhile, twelve hours ago...
>>42442822

Lots of damage control here

>>42483775
You stopped watching Pomu because Enna is a dumb cunt?

>>42483874
All me.

>>42483864
He's a retard is what he is
You can't be ntrd by someone you're not dating

>>42482387
She had an "L + ratio you parasocial fucks!" moment?
Whats with niji and hating their audience?

>>42483864
You dumb fucking tourist. Alex P. complains about YURI SHIPS. Elira literally scolded him yesterday about complaining about her date with Pomu.

>>42483948
Oh no no no Kronies

>>42483736
She doesn't have to. She should've banned him and continue on with her stream.

>>42483864
No he doesn't? He complains about her doing yuribait with Pomu.

>>42483775
You stopped watching Selen thanks to Enna being as retarded and spiteful as she normally is?

>>42483948
no she didn't

>>42483834
She could've handled it better, rather than referring to her entire audience she could've just told the one guy to fuck off. What a nothingburger.
>>42483864
Huh, didn't someone in another thread talk about that guy being salty about her interacting with Pomu, not the guys?

>>42482767
Thats it?

>>42482387
Why do nijiEN talents seem to be so on the edge lately?

>>42482387
Thats kinda too much... hard to put into words why this is upsetting. Kinda like someone saying to your face "Don't act so familiar with me, you dont matter" or something, idk hard to put into words. Like I get it but being told that directly just stings.

Think I'm gonna cancel my membership. This sucks. I really liked Elira

>>42483989
This is all Millie's fault for that gc stream.

Woman moment
Dunb cunt should educate herself

>>42483281
She just told that collective that it isn't even a friend

>>42483989
according to Pomu and Nina behind the scenes shit has been very stressful. Pomu has stomach ulcers from the stress

>>42482767
You mean to tell me friends dont talk to each other like this?

>>42484007
Least faggy post ITT

>>42483966
If you actually watch and listen to what she says she points out that it isn't just that one instance she's talking about.

>>42484007
It's a very typical mask slip moment. It's never worth sticking around after shit like this. They're not going to change since they have no incentive to.

>>42483989
Concert cancellation due to Millie's retarded /vt/yab stream

>>42482767
not just that, but Alex P doing the NTR thing again

>>42484025
Which is true
None of us know her personally, how can you be friends with someone you've never met or had a personal conversation with?

>>42484026
>Pomu has stomach ulcers from the stress
Fuck that shit sucks, I hope things get better for them

>>42482767
Nijis are always saying or tweeting stuff like this. Why sperg out at a viewer for trying to fit in?

>>42483900
Correct.
Consider - a percentage of all my donations/memberships/etc goes to Anycolor, which obviously reinvests most of it into the company. This implicitly means I have to be OK with supporting talents I don't like when I support talents I do like. Enna's nonsense simply marked the point where my distaste for supporting content and people I disliked in the company outweighed my desire to support the content and people I liked in the company.

I mean, there's a million vtubers out there, might as well donate to ones I like who don't come with the extra baggage of supporting shit I hate with my money. No hard feelings for Pomu in specific.

>>42484085
Thank, anon. I appreciate it.

>>42484080
Don't bring it up at all.

>>42483972
See >>42484092

>>42483574
You're right, I should have specified EN

>>42484007
There are plenty of vtubers like Nene that will accept you for who you are instead of being a bitch and pushing you away. Forget about that nijishit.

>>42484146
Nene the titty monster or Nene the holo

This must be the first time I've ever seen people get mad about NOT being lied to

>>42484026
Should have gotten better numbers so Paul Li wouldn't need to punish them

Ain't gonna pretend anymore, I fucking love NijiEN. Not for the reasons they expected but it's a goldmine of cringe and lolcow drama.

>>42484050
Same answer, ban and ignore. Update her chat rules in the description if necessary.

Jesus christ you're all so bitchy, no wonder none of you have any friends and have to project onto anime girls

>>42484092
Based

>>42484092
bur you could apply that to any corpo that has a talent you dislike. Are you telling me there's no one in holo you hate?

>>42482387
If you can't be friends, of course people are going to treat you like an objective because they need to dehumanize in order to find a reason to not form a bond with you.

Ngl didn't expect her to be the one to snap first after all of this. Wonder if this'll cascade into more yabs or if this'll make the others focus up a bit so they don't get the 'treatment'.

>>42484007
I genuinely dont get how you can support and watch someone who treats you like garbage. Its just such a fucking turnoff for a streamer, whos entire job revolves around interacting and chatting with you, to act like this.
Its no different from that infamous twitch clip of the e-thot demanding 5 dollar donos.
At least PRETEND you care about your fanbase and dont only see them as living ATMs. Very hard for western women, I get it

>>42484092
It's not like your money actually goes straight to Enna herself though is it?

>>42484183
We watch vtubers BECAUSE we want to be lied to. It's all one big lie. The point is to never break the illusion.
Elira just broke the illusion for many of her fans, and they will just slowly stop watching and walk away.

>>42484092
They tell you will never be friends but will get pissy when people make rational business decisions like this.

>>42484189
first of all kill yourself, second of all Pomu get's great numbers especially in superchats. Paul Li was their sponsorship manager

>>42484241
This isn't snapping, this is just calmly letting people know she's not comfortable with certain kinds of comments and is updating rules to reflect that
Didn't even ban the people doing it to give them a chance to stop

What the fuck is going on? You guys are acting like she abused you

>>42484255
Speak for yourself
Most people aren't delusional

>>42483782
I dunno dude, doesn't seem very entertaining, and it doesn't seem very appreciative. Why would you even agree with saying it as a whole to chat? For example, why are you watching? Because she's friendly? Well clearly nto, because she's entertaining? Is getting scolded entertaining to you? Do you think you aren't included in the message as a member? Her big issue is she addressed this to chat as a whole, its not just bitchy, its bad entertainment and a bad 'behind the mask' moment for what she really thinks about you viewers. I'd stop watching myself.

>>42484092
based, stopped watching holo when mori wigged out
now I only watch indies

I don't get what the big deal is like actually. All she said is that she's not friends on a personal level (which is true) with her chat but the reiterated how much she loves them? Shes saying she lives her chat as a collective group but you as an individual are not someone she is friends with. That's the same for all streamers?

>Stage 1: Tell chat you're not their girlfriend
>Stage 2: Tell chat they're not their friend
>Stage 3: Tell chat they're not people but ATMs

>>42483467
>the truth
disingenuous
she is telling her chat what her choice is, angrily, meaning she is presuming that chat doesn't like that choice and that the idea of chat disagreeing with her sacred opinion is something so egregious that it earns the punishment of being berated, and essentially behaving as if her choices are literal physical laws of reality
But not loving her fans is a choice
She could improve herself until she does love her fans, but perceives herself as too good for that

>>42484183
>it doesn't matter what's being said as long as it's honest
Retardation.

>>42484080
A lot of streamers tell more about themselves and stories revolving themselves to their audience than their own families.
Cant speak for Elira though since I dont watch niji.
The whole "you dont personally know them" is entirely dependent on the person. Some of them say nothing about themselves and others overshare constantly

>>42484313
Catalog watchers were just looking for anything to shit on her for after someone dated make a positive thread about her, because how dare someone not be a miserable cunt all day

What is even happening in this thread? This is so melodramatic even for /vt/.

>>42484245
This is the first time she's directly confrontational. She's always been positive and bubbly, so getting smacked with what she said came as a shock.

I get that none of us are her friends, but being told directly is just on another level. Like its being rubbed in, idk I just wanted to watch and support someone who sings, makes jokes, and interacts with the chat as I burn my life away

>>42484372
Anti niji Discord raid
It's so transparent

>>42484362
she doesn't have a choice
no vtuber over 2views can be friends with all their viewers
that's the factual truth

>>42482387
It's like they're trying to drive everyone away into the competition until all they have left are drooling twitter reactionaries in ridiculous self-denial about what they're even doing watching vtubers.

>>42484364
Knowing about someone's life is not knowing them
I know a lot about Donald Trump's life, does that make him my good personal friend?

>>42484360
Shit you got that right she might as well have just sed you are talking ATMs to me and nothing more.

>>42484080
>>42484364
It's not that we don't know her, it's that she doesn't know us personally.

>>42484335
>delusional
You have literally convinced yourself that you actually enjoy streams as entertainment
You are beyond delusional
>b-but millions of people watch streamers!
and there are billions of religious zealots

>>42484372
Niggas being red pilled about the true nature of women.

DON'T BE A BITCH TO YOUR AUDIENCE CHALLENGE
>Select your character!
::: Western woman:::

>Attention
**This challenge cannot be completed with this character**

>>42484403
It's almost like she's stressed the fuck out or something hmmm, maybe it has to do with l the shit happening Behind the scenes

>>42482612
>Why are anglo women like this?
Fixed that for you

>>42484362
>just be friends with thousands of people that exist only as text on a screen

>>42484092
>simply marked the point where my distaste for supporting content and people I disliked in the company outweighed my desire to support the content and people I liked in the company.

This is based and a calculation everyone SHOULD make. HoloEN has come to shit, but My love for Miko is deeper than my hate for homobeggars and the corruption that has taken hold of HoloEN (kronii and amelia hating their fanbase, Mori being generally uninterested). My love of Miko outweighs all of that, but everyone has to make their own choice.

>>42482767
>>42484078
>two people act like idiots
>instead of punishing them I'm just gonna punish the whole group instead
Why do people do this shit, pissed me off in school and it pisses me off now

>>42484080
There's nothing wrong with wanting a healthy streamer/fan relationship. It just comes across as disingenuous because she follows this up by immediately over corrected herself. You can blame it on fatigue or woman brain if you want to cope tho

>>42484418
Dunbars Numbers can go up to near 300 relationships IIRC

>>42484403
There's a lot of chuubas you can get that from that actually like what they do.
Find someone better.

>>42483528
This art is so weird, it like he having a real woman boob

>>42484446
Are you actually mentally disabled?

>>42484231
>>42484249
I mostly watch small corps these days, not HoloEN. Anyway the point isn't that the tradeoff exists (it does for any large enough group), it's that NijiEN reached a critical mass where there were way more people doing shit I disliked than people doing stuff I liked, and they were doing it obnoxiously enough that I didn't want any of my money going to them even by proxy.

That said I think >>42484272 has the right of it. It's not like the pennies on the dollar Enna's clique/the Luxiem fags/etc would get from my donations to Selen and Pomu is anything they could possibly miss, or even like Selen or Pomu themselves would so much as skip a meal because I'm not membered to them anymore... so why exactly do I have to justify myself?

>>42484481
Buy merch. Never superchat. Most of the money go to youtube and incompetent management.

>>42484462
So do I wait to see if she acknowledges she went too far? Whats that analogy about broken glass? Something about you can try to but it wont get rid of the cracks or something?

Guess I can just wait it out or something, fuck

>>42484452
I don't know how anyone can actually watch this clip and genuinely think she's being a bitch. Shes politely and calmly explaining that she doesn't know you on a personal level but she loves her community and wants people to stop sending weird overly sexual messages?

>>42484494
without looking it up I thought it was only like 150. aka about the size of apparently what the average tribe was for humans back in the stone age. much like how we were biologically not selected to live beyond like our 50s in nature we weren't selected to know more than a couple hundred people closely either.

>>42484473
>anglo
She's asian. Literally the only girl in the entirety of nijien that never straight up was shitting on her fans is also the only white girl in the branch.

>>42484483
It wasn't just that. She (and the rest of season 1 NijiEN) have been stresed as fuck the last couple if weeks

>>42484092
>which obviously reinvests most of it into the company.
Kek. Do you really believe it?

Educate yourself
Improve yourself
We're not friends and will never be
You have real female friends right?

There's a very good chance that millie is posting ITT as we speak. I will assume that most pro elira posts are being made by her

>>42484372
I dunno it just looks like bog-standard /vt/ retard funpostings
I don't even think most of the people ITT even watch this chick lol

Take the Holopill
https://youtu.be/S0EBjgCHp7U

This has to be the most braindead and retarded bait thread in a while. Especially bizzare because Elira is never posted in the catalog.

>>42484554
Because not lying to me and validating my delusions is literally manipulative evil cunt behavior somehow

>>42482387
All holos are like this too, they just hide it better. At least Elira is honest to her chat so they can both have a good time

>>42484446

>>42484561
she's half white half jap

>>42483484
Wasn't he in her 3d stream. You can't break the nijien family!

>>42484476
>thousands of people
So just treat it as one person
Like the trope of a woman fucking a random dude in a dark room she thinks is her husband
Just act like every name is the same person and suddenly it gets real easy

>>42484436
No, but donald trump doesnt directly interact with you everyday, respond to you live while chatting about his life or what he did today, play games with you, watch movies with you, reply to you on twitter, etc., you get the point.
Retarded false equivalence to use any celeb.
Not even including the chuubas who actually like people sending shit about their lives via maro or who have discords

>>42484561
Selen is so Chinese it hurts and she's never shat on her fans.

>>42484360
>stage 4: filter out a bunch of people who have more than 3 brain cells, lose a bunch of CCV and money and then cry crocodile tears that you're under attack by ""antis"" who in fact are mostly your ex-fans that you yourself drove away earlier

>>42484539
I mean you don't HAVE to justify yourself. I just thought the logic was silly.

>>42484584
There was like one thread about her today and I guess that made the terminally online faggots dwelling here butthurt

>>42484403
it's not too late to become a lucub anon

>>42484607
Kiara loves me and she's my wife

>>42484610
He was in all of Lazulight's 3Ds. Pretty obvious it was mandated by management.

Man I'd kill to see the drop in membership she gets after this, I wish the statistics on Youtube is public like Twitch's

>>42484613
So exactly what she said she does, caring about chat as a collective
So there's nothing to be mad about

>>42484594
She's been lying up to this point and should take responsibility for it.

>>42484245
The modern man is brought up in society to act like spinless abuse victims of the opposite sex. They are taught that is the manly way to act and everything else is toxic masculinity.
To sum it up yes queen slay is all gen z can muster up in these situations.

>>42484372
I know right? All these posts using words like angry and bitchy and then you open the clip and watch it and if anything she seems sad to say it and be struggling to get it out while talking in a calm and polite way and being really soft about it

>>42484372
/vt/ has always been melodramatic
there are still generals for graduated menhera tubers and bitches who didnt even get to join their first collab with their own gen
/vt/ is just filled with weak men in general

>>42484686
>>42484584
>>42484372
What happened here? Why was the damage control deleted?

>>42484672
Clearly not

>>42483552
Nijisanji is just Japanese Twitch, don't get confused about what they're offering.

>>42484764
Classic meido or janny behavior who hate vtubers and want the board to constantly be in flames

>>42484679
Sad cope

>>42484741
>/vt/
>actually watching the clips they're getting mad about

>>42484764
Nijimeido wake up

>>42484764
Samefag probably got banned.

>>42484313
Usual catalogfaggotry.
Im only here because I wanted to see famelira undesirables drop like flies in realtime lmao good riddance
Ill continue to enjoy my cute dragon chuuba like a mentally stable person

>Samefagging nijitranny gets unpersoned
Many such cases

>>42484764
if all you are here to do is just shit on /vt/ relentlessly, expect someone to hit you back eventually.

We could all be reading a book right now.

>>42482767
Less weird than the shit Nijis say on stream about themselves.

>>42484560
That's the median but obviously it will vary between individuals
Also comparatively more recent and more thorough analysis puts it much closer to a median of 300, again with a spectrum
Streamers whose job it is to interact with masses and people attracted to such a thing probably have on average a higher median
Also, this is why memberships are important. Outside of Holo-tier vtubers, the odds of much more than 300 members, even for a mid 4-view, are pretty low. And then you have to consider that plenty of members are the quiet type.
Basically, it's almost definitely possible to at least have SOME meaningful connection to your "core" for the overwhelming majority of vtubers.
It's about whether they actually care to connect or not.

>>42483045
A lot of Nijis are simply not very professional.

>>42484701
So why the fuck did she tell her friend mr.chat that he's not even a friend

>>42484900
Samefagging is supported here.

>>42484954
That whole thing seemed very professional though. Shes not being angry or overly dramatic. She just calmly stating her boundaries.

>>42484918
>like a mentally stable person
Like a mindbroken cuckold*
Also have some self-awareness nigger, you're posting on a catalog thread in /vt/

>>42484926
Okay? You know they're all different people right? What might be right for some may not be right for others.

>>42484989
As individuals you're not friends with her like say your friend you meet irl all the time is.

>>42484925
or observing that elira is a piece of shit just like most other nijiENs. they're such fucking tryhards acting like they're soo cool and above everything yet millie's stream showed that actually they are a swirling vortex of butthurt and seethe.

yes, most of you fucking SUCK, nijiEN. you'll always be fucking inferior to holo. hell most small corpos are superior to you.

>>42484954
Don't you have any female friends?

Why can't all the girls in nijiEN be like Pomu, Rosemi and Kotoka, with little or no drama, and everyone loves them for the content they generate and personality, not just the model for coomers.

>>42484925
I highly recommend Sanderson's Mistborn series. I doubt anyone /here/ has or will ever read a book, but the cinematic audiobook (i forgot the brand name) is excellent

>>42484995
you do realize there is more than one mod here, that all mods technically cover all boards, and they can talk in groups when they decide to actually speak up, right? oh wait /vt/ is almost all newfags who know literally nothing about this site at all.

>>42485093
>pomu
Idolfag
>Rosemi
??? Unknown I dont watch her
>Kotoka
Japanese, so comes with the territory

seems like a classic "chat gets one guy'd" moment, if it happens once it's inevitably going to happen again

L + Ratio you parasocial fucks etc.

>>42485052
none of lazusydia were apart of Millies stream

>>42485052
BASED BASED BASED
YOU TELL EM ANON

>>42485118
I think all fucking jannies can tongue my anus is what I think. That's why I pay them their exorbitant wages of $0/hr.

>>42485047
Okay. But why did she read that SC from the lens of it coming from an individual in the first place, and not simply as if it was just one of the many wacky things her friend mr.chat said?

>>42485011
>mindbroken
Speak for yourself kek
Also reread what I said. I saw the thread and thought it'd be good lunchtime entertainment.
Didn't know it was in 3D and the cartoon character would address (Me) directly

>>42485010
>we're not friends but I love you guys as a collective and enjoy your company
vs
>we're not friends, but i love you and think about you all the time and we're besties but not really but yeah...
Yeah she's a real smooth talker

>>42485052
As if you actually watched them and aren't just brainwashed by this retarded fucking board.

>>42485093
Incidentally those are the ones who all actually-value the JP vtubing culture. The fairweather bandwagoners turn out to mostly be all rotten putrid people and it always shows sooner or later. Selen is kind of in-between in that she doesn't really care much about Japan but she also is legit a talented streamer and knows she doesn't actually need the avatar to succeed hence doesn't get butthurt over critique as a chuuba.

>>42485118
that would be a good point if it weren't for the fact that he deleted his own fucking post a second after realizing lmao

>>42485052
>small corpos
>superior
lol
lmao even

what happened with Phase's best GFE chuuba again??

>>42485093
Elira doesn't have any drama either? Unless you count a thread full of insane people twisting words and making exaggerations over what is a relatively mild statement.

>>42485197
>the JP vtubing culture
How to out yourself as an EOP without saying anything

>2021: Do you really believe a vtuber loves you?
>2023: Do you really believe a vtuber considers you their friend?
>2024: Do you really believe a vtuber considers you anything but an ATM?

>>42485274
she apologized profusely in several ways and on stream directly. the CEO took responsibility too. now let's see elira do that and riku say "yeah that wasn't cool sorry guys."

>>42485275
How deaf are you? What OP posted is near verbatim

>>42485275
>Elira doesn't have any drama either?
LOL she met with males in a love hotel to offpako.

>>42485302
>chuuba bends to her fans

Fucking no balls.
Now I'm REALLY not watching anyone from Phase.

>>42485340
Yeah it's a relatively mild statement? You're not friends with her on a personal level. But she loves her chat as a collective. Please stop sending weird messages that overstep what she's comfortable with. There's nothing extreme or drama worthy about tht.

>>42485287
the JP chuubas that go shit on their fans for being even a little spicy in SCs are a minority. most of them fucking love that shit. yet for nijiENs it's generally the other way around. there is give and take on both sides but on EN it leans more towards "act genuinely offended that fans really-like you after you spend years being all close and personal and friendly with them"

>>42485197
>she also is legit a talented streamer
lmao imagine simping this hard for a hamplanet landwhale chinkoid

>>42482700
>you are just a source of income for me thats all you will ever be.
This admission pretty much reveals everything about you. You don't actually like your "oshi" nor respect them, you want absolute control and you think throwing your money at them will get you that. Literal schizo behavior. Freaks like you should be put away in the asylums.

>>42485403
I can tell you're new to vtubing

>>42485390
Guess Pomu has drama too then. If you're going to count that.

>>42485392
Stay cucked and hated nijibro

>>42485390
okay, now post something that actually happend

>>42485392
Stick with your stuck up bitches then, fucking loser.

>>42485403
But that's not fun. Join the emotional meltdown it's cathartic.

>>42485427
I've watched vtubers since 2019.

>>42485440
She met with males in a love hotel to offpako :)

>>42485197
Isnt this the same audience that nijifags were so proud of poaching from holoEN?

>>42485184
Mindbroken in the sense that you're actually okay with being treated this shitty.
The average cucked westoid

>>42485417
We don't watch vtubers for what they look like in reality by the way, I don't care how "huge" she is in reality, as long as her streams give me good emotions.

>>42485436
>>42485455
Hey, Mr. Kettle

>>42485436
>>42485455
Reading these makes me wonder why anyone would want to pander to these schizos.

>>42483671
Because they can't separate themselves from characters

>>42485496
just because you repeat doesn't make it true

>>42485558
I wonder why you stick up with girls who unironically tell you they fucking hate you. You act like you have no other options and this is the best you can do. You're fucking objectively retarded with 0 standards.

>>42485563
just because you repeat doesn't make it true

have you guys improved yourselves yet

>>42485584
exactly. now kill yourself

>>42485518
>treated this shitty
>a mild statement about vtubing

sorry the asylum couldn't take you in. im sure they'll have room for you soon. keep your lines open

>>42485416
>the JP chuubas that go shit on their fans for being even a little spicy in SCs are a minority
Out yourself as an EOP and newfag any%
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YV89jInO8qk

>>42485604
You first fagelira

>>42485626
>one of vtubing's most famous prudes

>>42484483
That Alex guy has been a problem for a long time now but Elira has never done anything about it besides tell him to stop a few times. I think she’s finally tired of it and will stop it but is too anxious or nervous to specifically call him out so she instead said the problem was a group of people

>>42485581
You go into a hobby like vtubers and expect to have standards lmao

>>42482387
>Elira threw her chat out of the friendzone
It is time

Are there somehow still nijien fans that hate male collabs? Aren't most collabs and event streams filled with the faggots? Sunk cost?

>>42485626
>posting the known prude who gets butthurt about even lewd art as evidence of a trend

>>42485582
After I stopped watching Ame I have more free time for other vtubers who don't hate me because I like anime girls. So I guess I do.

>>42485648
but im also a bud. I just don't like lies being spread about Elira

>>42485664
it's sadder to have no standards for even fucking parasocial relationships. you're fine getting walked over in a fucking pretend relationship. I shudder to imagine how weak you are overall as a human.

>>42485626
Another one besides suisei and fbk?

>>42485581
>I wonder why you stick up with girls who unironically tell you they fucking hate you
They aren't about me though. If you feel honestly attacked, then you need to take a long hard look in the mirror.
>You're fucking objectively retarded with 0 standards.
I'm sorry but I'm not a control freak who thinks throwing money at people will make do everything you want.

>>42485668
Yup

>>42485668
This wasn't about male collabs, retard

>>42485518
>The average cucked westoid
>westoid
This explains so much.

>>42485668
Male collabs are fine. Things I dislike:
>male offcollabs in a hotel/bedroom literal NTR shit
>male who ONLY does 1v1 collabs with females (Luca) while flirting and hitting on them the whole time
>girls NEVER do any female-only collabs, for months, and always invite a male for no reason other than to middle finger their male fans.

>>42485581
Men these days think its the norm to be walked on and treated like shit by women.

>>42485626
My sides. Why would you post the raw version of a popular clip on /vt/? Are you scared of retaliation?
Where does she shit on her fans in that clip?

>>42485710
>"I shudder to imagine how weak you are overall as a human."
>the schizos types after crying that their oshi thinks you're a freak

>>42485690
Sounds like you're still cringe to me, imagine getting your feelings hurt by an anime girl.

You fuckers are never going to learn your lesson.

>>42485770
>muh ntr!!
Sounds like a personal problem to me.

>>42485770
Selen and Pomu do girls only stuff all the time

>>42485518
>please do not make weird sexual comments at me
>being treated shitty

>>42485690
>anime girls
>vtubers

pick one. zoomers have lost their purity

>>42485830
Selen is barely female

>>42485830
But they hang out with men that aren't meeee!! So they need to be shit on until they give meee the respect I deserve!!

>>42485726
You're as delusional as the incel.

>>42485581
>girls who unironically tell you they fucking hate you
That didn't happen schizo-kun

>>42485622
>no argument
Stay cucked

>>42485880
ENNA

>>42485755
The one Pomu fan coping about Pomu and Luca totally hating each other now made me curious

>>42485648
Suck my dick, falseflagger
youre no bud if you think shitting on elira or her fanbase over something this mild is anything a bud should be doing.

>>42485795
she isn't my oshi and never was. more like I'm just laughing at anyone who puts up with shit like this thinking they're stronger for it or that she'll like you more if you agree with everything she says even if it's completely detrimental to (you).

your instinct as a normal man with a functioning brain should be "what the fuck is this? dude just got a bit lewd in like a 5 dollar suckysucky superchat and this bitch acts like she's the queen of england. lmao bye." vtubers are just glorified fucking panhandlers. there are a thousand more like her. she isn't special but is very very convinced she is. conceited people are not fun to be around.

>>42482767
That is cringe. He deserves to be publicly humiliated.

>>42485879
>n-no u!!
Projecting isn't gonna get you anywhere. Accept the fact that you're a freak and no one likes you.

>>42485827
Sounds like a niji problem to me.
Though the fanbase seems to like third wheel / cuckold content so maybe its not a problem

>>42485919
>normal man
>(You)
lol
lmao even

>>42485931
You're just as bad, get off the high horse. We're one and the same.

It's okay nijigirl streamer I hate nijiniggers too.

>>42485919
Some retard not being able to keep it in his pants and getting clowned on isn't detrimental to me in any way

>Elira going on break at the same time as Luca
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA OH NO FAGELIRA NOT LIKE THIS AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>42483976
Yes she did

>>42486047
she really didn't.

>>42485668
i hate luca i despise that little shit and somehow it always hangs around elira's streams

>>42485919
Based.
The cuckolds wont like hearing this

>>42485873
Only falseflagers think like this, sister

>>42485970
>cuckold content
Is this all you think about or something?

>>42485830
Pomu can die in a fire for not only collabing with Luca but doing so fucking constantly and enabling his disgusting sex pest groomer behavior
The minecraft fiasco was beatiful karma

>>42485980
>You're just as bad
In what way? I'm not the crying after getting their asses called out for being degens in the chat.

>>42485827
Ok cuck.

>>42486119
>the least insane pomudachi

>>42486119
>constantly
>have had a grand total of 3 1 on 1 collabs in 1 year
take your meds

>>42486093
Just saying it like it is.
The niji fanbase loves watching their oshi flirting 1 on 1 with dudes.
The entire Enna blacked offcollab is proof of that

>92 IPs
>300+ posts
>over a nothingburger

You people have no lives whatsoever do you

>>42486015
Poor Pomu...

>>42486119
Selen has collabed with Luca more than Pomu
>>42486176
>using Enna as an example
No one likes her.

>>42485919
Is it that hard to be a compete degenerate in her supas? Find it hard to believe you ranting your deranged beliefs in this shithole.

>>42486194
Pomu doesn't give a shit about that subhuman monkey anymore kek, she squeezed his fanbase for all its worth and threw him away like the trash he is.

>>42486175
I'm at work and I'm done with everything for the day

>>42486176
Heck her main SC gachikoi going on a hate rant because she going on a date with pomu, that already tell you her fanbase full of cuck.

>>42486241
dude it's fucking nijisanji. the people who routinely get all sexual and innuendo-y with each other. this isn't high theatre here. if someone wants to have a bit of fun fucking let them.

>>42486194
Pomu only likes little girls and rough tough ojisan like Snake

>>42482700
>come for me

>>42486119
When was the last time they actually collabed outside of large group collabs like Among Us or Crab Game or w/e? It seems like it's been ages

>>42486176
>Just saying it like it is.
You mean what the voices are telling you?
>blacked
No one wants to hear what you watch on your free time.

>>42486064
Yes she did

>>42486281
NOT EVERYONE IN NIJISANJI ACTS THE SAME WAY YOU FUCKING GAPING RETARD

>>42486281
You can go elsewhere if you need to hornypost

>>42486175
Im at work and I want to do this before actually getting back into what I actually want to do

>>42486152
>cuck cuck cuck
Am I talking to a chicken or something?

>>42486311
not even close

>>42486281
There's a thing called boundaries and consent. Something that you may not be accustomed to.

>>42483989
JP management might have finally gotten tired of all the EN yabs and started putting pressure on their management to stop with all the "freedom".
I hope they nuked their "private" Discord server, as long as that thing exists NijiEN will continue to yab like clockwork.

>>42486400
oh nooo this dude actively giving her money to make a hornypost is literally like she's getting raped live on stream. ohhhh noooooooooooooooo.

>>42486263
Pomu loves her nijien family cuck. Hope you seethed during her big 3d debut with Luca there

>>42486270
If you think yuribait is cuckoldry then the a huge portion of hololive cucks their fans too.

>>42486330
Cope
A rotten apple spoils the whole yard
Or in this case, multiple rotten apples

>>42486424
Is it that hard to keep it on your pants for one second?

>>42486426
>Pomu loves her nijien family
lol
lmao even
Her and Selen are the only ones that didn't bought into muh niji family bullshit

>>42486469
>Her and Selen are the only ones that didn't bought into muh niji family bullshit

>>42486512
>no argument
I accept your concession nijifag

>>42486424
It's really hard to believe that some people have boundries, huh? Elira has always disliked that shit, but the unrelated stress of behind the scenes shit and Alex P constantly complaining about her being shipped with Pomu finally made her want to make it crystal clear.

>>42486451
>A rotten apple spoils the whole yard
And apple that being you. When are you gonna learn that you aren't wanted?

Uh NijiEN bros can your chuubas stop yabbing every other day I can't keep up with the catalog

>>42486529
>no source
I accept your concession unischizo.

>>42486451
>3 out of 31
yeah no that's not unreasonable at all. I expect next time Holo has a yab that you drop them all or any smal corpo

>>42486538
>Elira has always disliked that shit
>wanted to take Finana to a sex store in Japan
>talked about the nipple fanart on stream
Famelira are so fucking delusional lmao

>>42486469
Hope you don't mind Luca being there during every big event stream Pomus has

>>42486609
>every big event Pomu has
You're already wrong, he wasn't even invited to her nkodice tournament LOL

>>42486595
>taking a close friend to a tenga store
>the samething as some rando messaging something not only creepy but completely unrelated

>>42486538
Is she finally going to ban that faggot after this fumble?

>>42486451
This.
It's why I don't watch HoloEN, because of Mori's bullshit.

>>42486595
I don't get it. You're saying that looking at a sex store with your friends because it's funny means you're comfortable with getting sleazy superchats from random strangers?

>>42486663
No, instead of calling him out and banning him she decided to blame the entirety of her fanbase. Alex P will remain unbanned as long as he's the only famelira paypig that donates in a non-meme currency.

>>42486552
y so mad sister

>>42482387
Is it so hard to just ignore these types of messages and ban the weirdo not acknowledge them? Going on rants never ever works out. What the fuck is going on at Nijisanji EN recently?

>>42486663
He's not banned yet, but if he does it again after the rules change I bet he will be

>>42486593
More like 'Everyone in the GC Stream' out of 31

>>42486663
I sure hope so, but she said she really doesn't want to ban people so she's going to start timing them out. She doesn't have any mods unfortunately

>>42485390
I'm more likely to believe that Nina fucked Vox, Luca, and Mysta than something like that with Elira

>>42482387
Someone please save Selen and get her out of that den of menheras and males. Yagoo, fishman, anyone I don't care.

NijiEN is fucking dead.

>>42486421
It would make sense that after all this stupid shit, a year+ later someone in JP headquarters finally noticed and realize "oh fuck.. what are they doing.." and threatened them that they're on their last straw before management starts controlling them like the spoiled children they are. it's overdue really.

I would normally assume they wouldn't care because nijiJP also doesn't really give a shit about what most of the talents are doing, but maybe EN just runs very differently and also because it generated so much fucking money for them they actually-care to try to keep up the cashflow. In general with JP if you're a flop they just ignore you and let you wither away but if you're a hit they will work you to the bone. Considering its income I guess the pressure is on the entire EN branch to be worked to the bone.

>>42486694
And if she had done that you'd be here screeching about her singling out chat members and abusing them

>>42486716
So 6 out of 31 my bad

>>42486638
Only most then

>>42486797
>moving goalposts

>>42486797
>only most
>the only big even Pomu organized and he's not in it
RORU
RUMAO
KEKKUS MAXIMUS

>>42485582
I improved myself by unmembering from this malignant cunt.

>>42486720
If she still doesnt ban him after this "talk" I hope Alex P ups his schizo ramblings

>>42486831
3d debut not big enough?

>>42486747
She's proven to be HoloEN worthy in that collab with Ame/Mumei
Yagoo take her and only her, the others deserve to drown in yet another sinking ship cursed by Rosemi

>>42486933
He was in all 3

>>42483989
Real answer: The concert cancellation threw a wretch into everything EN had planned for the first half of this year. I bet now they're scrambling what to do to make up for such a big event being put on hold, putting a lot of pressure on most of the members.

>>42486953
>cursed by Rosemi
wut

nice comfy SEA hours

>>42486421
>>42486754
What's with the rise of corpo bootlickers all of a sudden?

>>42486958
He doesn't mind flirting with multiple girls

>>42484058
It wasn't because of such a stupid reason if you believe that you might as well believe the covid explanation

>>42486663
She 's adding new rules soon so if it gets out of hand it will be easier foe her to ban someone. That guy keeps saying he apologizes but still continues to complain in SCs that he is getting ntr'd by Pomu is funny though.

>>42484058
No one is believing this shit, so stop trying to push it.

>>42486977
rosemi destroyed tsunderia with her disloyalty

>>42486990
He didn't flirt with any of them. Millie did and he was silent while she was

>>42484580
I will now watch your holo girls.

>>42487018
He has severe autism it seems

>>42484607
Kronii loves me and she's my wife

>>42487018
Cant self insert as a girl. So elira should just focus on male collabs from now on!

>>42486991
there's kind of two pathways to take to reacting to the cumulative dumb shit nijiENs have said and done the past year -

a - bravado acting like literally nothing is wrong ever and they're not being petty children and this is A-OK forever, they can drive the whole show off the cliff and we'll still cheer them on as they're dying in a fire

b - trying to put up with it but kind of hoping on the side that some kind of checks and balances come into place to stop things from going too far

For the latter types they'd welcome JP coming in and riku busting out his pimp hand getting tired of their shit, the former would act like it's some horrible black company mistreatment for the bosses to manage subordinates.

>>42487061
Reads more like he's making up excuses to me.

>>42487018
The fact that he is angry because of yuribaiting with Pomu and Millie of all things will never not be funny to me. But sperging on Pomu's chat was a really bad idea since Elira is really protective of her friends.

>>42485390
>met with males in a love hotel to offpako.
>it's shu and uki
nice joke

>>42487161
Shu has a massive crush on elira though. During the offcollab they stayed in the same hotel and looked each other directly in the eye for the games. It was weird and uncomfortable.

>>42487161
And she's doing it again this week btw. Luca and Ike are taking a break starting today "for a little over a week" just like Elira is :)

Are people really this drama-hungry
This is a literal nothingburger

>>42487192
so are 5 others.
>>42487190
she is the literal definition of a beta orbiter

>>42487209
Gotta get one on the evil nijis.

>>42487102
>For the latter types they'd welcome JP coming in and riku busting out his pimp hand getting tired of their shit,
The same Riku who was laughing his ass off when Mysta was full court jester mode by saying dirty Japanese words after getting drunk off of sake?

>>42486856
sounds like she improved her fanbase by cutting you out of it lol

>>42486448
>Bring holo when it a niji problem
The guy literally got elira mad in her prechat because elira and pomu going on a date. Are you coping? It even on yesterday thread on how elira blow up on her gachi.

>>42487209
Why not, they already shitting up the catalog everyday, just matter of karma.

>>42487241
are the people taking breaks the ones who took part in the millie gc stream and are getting silent suspensions because of it?

>>42487268
If you're going to call people "cucks" for liking or tolerating yuribait then that's the majority of the hololive fanbase too.

>>42482387
>>42482767
Don't the nijimales get shit a hundred times more degenerate than this said in their chat or supa'd to them? It's perfectly fine to have standards but just ban the person or call them out specifically instead of pulling back the curtain on the viewer/chuuba dynamic, what she said is obviously accurate but nobody wants to hear they don't matter or even approach the level of a friend. And no saying she cares about them SOOO much multiple times afterwards doesn't make it okay, it is her responsibility to not break the illusion in the first place.

>>42482387
I guess Selen is the only good NijiEN among all these bitches and whores

>>42487190
shu said he wants to live with petra in the valorant collab

I feel bad for her fans >>42487373

>>42487431
Eat shit. No one cares about you.

>>42485116
I fucking hated the ending tbqh, it just threw away the best characters and didn't even give you 5-10 pages of how the rest of the people were dealing with the new world order. Very unsatisfying.

>>42487359
femdom is literally the worst fetish. I was into this for a few years before I realize that women are way too naturally submissive and are repulsed most women are by the concept. The guys who are into it are basically repressed homosexuals anyway. And the fetish leads to nowhere but a dead-end, unlike the standard mating press domination fetish. That's where the real chads are at.

>>42482387
I like the inherent contradiction in her statement.
> chat says "I like your looks/figure/voice/face" etc.
> we're not friends, so don't "objectify me"
But if you're not friends then you can only praise her surface level traits since you OBVIOUSLY don't know her well enough to be friends.
It implies chat can't praise her personality either - since if they knew enough about her personality to tell her which parts they like, that would imply they're friends, which she says they're not.

Kinda funny how logic twists itself into a pretzel when it comes to these SJW types.

>>42486747
Niji "I'm so woke i don't need you here" VS Holo "I'll stream when i'm sure i can put out a good stream"

>>42482387
>We're not friends
>We'll never be on like a friendship level
Even if it's true I feel like a streamer should never say this. Aside from it just making some normal viewers feel weird, it might also push some over the edge to go schizo over them for months.

>>42487346
>Don't the nijimales get shit a hundred times more degenerate than this said in their chat or supa'd to them?
Yes, but there are times they still get taken aback and bring out the bonk hammer. I think only Vox and Hex embrace that shit with open arms. The only one I can think who doesn't like it is Ike, since he's very uncomfortable about it and openly denies anyone who wants pandering.

>>42487587
I thought Mysta also hates it?

>>42487346
they do, that is what happened to vox last year and is why he had to do a dedicated stream to this exact topic instead of a tangent during a superchat reading. he outright said "I am acting, I am not your boyfriend, I am not your friend, I am an entertainer" and /vt/ applauded him because he was "owning the chinks"
>just ban the person or call them out specifically
this isn't a one-time thing, she said she has never had chat mods and doesn't time people for this behavior even though it makes her uncomfortable, but recently she feels the need to address it

>>42487608
I forgot about him, but I guess it's because his chat so unhinged like him so pandering was the last thing on my mind. There's also Kyo now that I think about it, but who the hell would yume for him?

>>42486400
But I'm not her friend or boyfriend, just a fucking stranger according to her. The boundary is my fucking screen, anything else is unenforceable.