/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>4241853
>chat say it wasn’t family friendly
When did Gura chat become such puritans?

>>4241853
I'd like to see her try out one of the classic Touhou danmaku games. I want her to be bullied by the game a bit, you could say.

And there's another one I think she'd like - Super Castlevania IV for SNES. That's a great game.

>>4241853
Anonchama, she literally says in the first 10 seconds she doesn't like visual novels.

>>4241958
Chat wasn't being puritan, it's simply an issue of what youtube will or will not tolerate. As I understood it this game has ecchi, and youtube is what it is.

>>4241958
>When did Gura chat become such puritans?
Well when Gura had her character put on a bikini in a rhythm game, someone in the chat was like “banned”, but of course you don’t get banned for that, and she wasn’t banned for it. Maybe they’re just idiots? Dunno.

>>4242023
>it's simply an issue of what youtube will or will not tolerate
The censored version doesn’t break YouTube TOS, and people have played it on YouTube. Did you uncensored?

>>4242105
NTA

A lot of people have probably have gone on what they see on the web and assume that Nekopara is only a straight eroge by default.

>>4242402
Well YouTube will allow it, but EN management clearly won’t, especially with the way Gura reacted, which kind of shows how strict they are. It’s kind of ridiculous to me to think of anime girls needing to be family friendly, but whatever.

>>4242705
>It’s kind of ridiculous to me to think of anime girls needing to be family friendly, but whatever.
I wonder if this mindset will effect Gen2s designs...

>>4242762
let hope not.

>>4242705
One thing is not being family friendly and other to play softcore porn with lolis in it

>>4242705
>It’s kind of ridiculous to me to think of anime girls needing to be family friendly, but whatever.
It is. Which oddly ties into my utter disbelief that other countries or Japan haven't come up with a viable streaming platform which would be more lax. These American services are either completely censored like youtube or straight up porn sites. There's no middle ground.

>>4242705
You say it as if anime doesn't have family friendly shows. It could very well be down to the demographics that Gura has or even what advertisers/sponsors are willing to deal with. It's not as if the VN hasn't raised eyebrows in the wuest due to some of the content.

I know, it's retarded... but they have to pay attention to all of that and and make sure that they don't step into one of the western landmines and lose all of the good will that they got before they truly cement their foothold. The entertainment industry is that fickle and all it takes is one wrong move to send it all down the drain.

>>4242873
Well it’s not entirely YouTube or Twitch, insomuch as we know other VTubers get away with far more, providing they don’t violate the TOS of course. So it’s mostly what Cover thinks is a target market for a western audience, using EN management to ensure it’s their guidelines are followed.

The constrast between Holo JP and Holo EN is very big, as we seen with how comfortable Coco was talking to Mori, while Mori was worried about swearing. The whole “think of the children” thing.

>>4242873
The problem is that, you're making trade-offs depending on the streaming service's location no matter where you set up shop.

>Japan, France, Germany
>more lax on ecchi
>more strict on violence

>Australia
>upside down laws

>China
>it's China

>anywhere else
>too poor or too religious, good luck

>USA
>literal freedom of speech codified into the constitution
>can make any streaming service that you want and spread any content that you want as long as it's not a crime
>also means that companies will succumb to public pressure, especially if you're a publicly traded company, because people know how to use their freedom of speech to protest

Also remember that Nekopara itself has controversial language in it, namely the age of the catgirls, which while ridiculous a point to fixate upon, it will drive puritans into a frenzy simply because it is there, even if the girl in question is a literal BOOBA old lady design.

>>4242987
>You say it as if anime doesn't have family friendly shows
Nope, I didn’t. I said for them to have to be, is ridiculous.
>It could very well be down to the demographics
Someone who becomes a VTuber is fixated on what they wish to present, then it’s up to the parents of kids to make sure they don’t watch the wrong people. The kids themselves don’t dictate the content.
>even what advertisers/sponsors are willing to deal with
That’s a legitimate point. Maybe Cover thinks Western companies require family friendly content. But I say they should take a slight loss for more freedom and creativity. Still make a lot regardless.
>step into one of the western landmines
That’s the case with all VTubers, but they still don’t restrict themselves to the degree of Holo EN. I say leave it up to the VTubers to dictate their own content. If Cover then lost 1 VTuber every couple of years from bans, they can easily be replaced anyway.

It's kind of irresponsible to play something that if the audience wanted to play it for themselves the most common form of it which they would find is just a hentai game. All it takes is a handful of parents to get mad that the anime shark girl their kid watches encouraged them to download porn. Also despite the cat theme I think Gura would be absolutely bored out of her mind playing the censored version.

>>4242042
They are sheltered SEAnigs that grew up under and around Islam. The HoloIDs show only a little skin in their outfits for a reason. Their Indogs fans can't handle it.

>>4243581
Does the censored version show the sex scenes but more censored or does it skip them completely?

>>4243367
>literal freedom of speech codified into the constitution
Only the goverment, a private company cam become a de facto service (Google) and censor as much as they like.

>>4243581
>All it takes is a handful of parents to get mad that the anime shark girl…
That’s incorrect. For example: if there is an anime that is perverted, a parent may only stop their kid from watching it, they cannot actually prevent all prevented anime from airing so their kids can comfortably watch everything. Content is not dictated by the possibility that there are some kids watching, but rather by the creator of the content.

>>4243803
I'm not referring to some kind of legal or even commercial ban but rather bad publicity that Cover doesn't want, especially for it's English branch. They won't even let their JP talents stream with Project Melody because she does camgirl shit by herself on an entirely different site, in English.

I actually think Cover should make a deliberate effort to prevent anime from being viewed as cartoons for kids.

>>4243764
Yes, you just rephrased my point about public pressure, which is what happened to Google, Facebook and pretty much all social media and content delivery platforms.

>>4243905
>bad publicity
Must anime be for kids to prevent this “bad publicity” you speak of? I mean who exactly is dictating what the content SHOULD become? If Cover allows it, maybe one day anime will be viewed as something for children to which parents will feel the right to decide what it should be.

>>4243922
>>4244016
Anime hasn't been viewed as "cartoons for kids" for a very long time. Most of the millennials that grew up watching anime already know that there's anime for all kinds of demographics. That doesn't stop a lot of other people from raising a stink simply because the content delivery platform is named YouTube.

>>4243922
Nobody in the west views anime as kids cartoons, there is a reason Netflix calls its animated series "Netflix anime original" rather than animated series

>>4244163
>Nobody in the west views anime as kids cartoons, there is a reason Netflix calls its animated series "Netflix anime original" rather than animated series
Well based on the logic from another person in this thread, you would think with how Netflix put Devilman Crybaby on their own site (and it’s clearly not for kids), that some would think parents could remove it simply by demanding that all anime is for children.

So what is it about this game that makes people want to see it played? Does it have a good story or anything? Look like a trash tier vn just from the cover.

>>4244331
The difference is that Netflix does filter content thoroughly by creating an integrated service just for kids. YouTube does as well, but they can't filter everything that one streamer does because the streams vary from baby games all the way to TOS skirting games like Nekopara.

You do know that Gura's streams bypass the filter and show up on YouTube kids app?

>>4244341
It's the cat theme. As a hentai game it's super vanilla and has like only 20 CGs or something like that, even though the art is fairly good quality.

>>4244341
It's a cute comfy vanilla eroge with catgirl waitresses and above average art, there's literally nothing to dislike about it unless you're the most hardcore contrarian.

>>4244341
cute catgirls and a deceptively wholesome, heartwarming story that makes you really care about them, which makes the H scenes all the better.

>>4244341
The same reason why undertale and ddlc is popular, its baby first eroge

>>4244826
>YouTube does as well, but they can't filter everything…
That’s YouTube’s fault. Kids don’t dictate content by VTubers. And when it’s not YouTubes fault, it’s the parents fault. Again, kids don’t get to dictate everyone else’s content.

>>4245272
Parents don't care about any of that and YouTube doesn't care about their content creators if they don't make money for them (they don't, since YouTube is mostly ad funded). Just look at the conservative side of the platform; it's an advertising wasteland full of restrictions. One wrong move from Cover and it could send their whole operation into that ad/sponsor wasteland

>>4244341
Unironically? Cunny

>>4245527
>Parents don't care about any of that
I didn’t ask that. It’s just the reality that VTubers decide their own content, and must only avoid violating YouTubes TOS.
>One wrong move from Cover and it could send their whole operation…
Incorrect. If a YouTuber becomes banned, YouTube doesn’t punish everyone else by association to that person. That’s not how the company functions.

>>4245581
But it doesn't have any.
>but Azuki-
Azuki falls in hebephilia territory, not pedophilia. She is not a loli.

>>4246135
I may have implied it was YouTube doing so, but it's actually the advertisers that will do it.

>>4246527
There is always a company that wants to be noticed by a particular audience linked to the kind of content the VTubers make. Small, big, it doesn’t matter. If content is made for children (or if kids could dictate all content), it just means the ads will be different.

>>4246180
> it doesn't have
The fuck are you talking about retard. Of course it does

I think it’s important to also point out that VTubers have superchat and memberships as financial security, and likely make the vast majority of income from it.

>>4246971
>the tags said so so it must be the truth
Point me to the loli, because I'm not seeing any. And no, we're not talking about 0 and Cacao so don't bother trying to move the goalposts.

>>4247122
Are you blind? It's literally in the screenshot.
>>the tags said so so it must be the truth
Yes.

>>4247230
>Are you blind? It's literally in the screenshot.
Chocola and Vanilla are lolis now? Could've fooled me.

meanwhile, at nijisanji
https://youtu.be/vnHESUOZ-9c

>>4247601
>check this bitch out
>a measly 320k subs
yeah that's definitely some nijisanji alright

>>4247316
if they don't have cowtits then it's loli by normalfag standards, yes

>>4246971
One of the cats is borderline but I don't even consider that one a loli. If you like loli shit there's a thousand better games than Nekopara.

God I hope she doesn't play it, Nekopara is incredibly boring even by SoL VN standards

>>4247601
Why is NijiJP so raunchy and NijiEN so fucking safe? fucking hell its so annoying

>>4247849
Now this would be epic.

>>4243700
I believe they're skipped completely

>>4248445
Well even the difference between Coco (holo JP) and Mori (holo EN) in terms of freedom to say or do what you want, is gigantic. I never thought there would be such a big difference when Holo EN was first coming out.

>>4248445
are you seriously saying this when finana replied to hardcore r18 art of her just yesterday?

>>4249088
Mori is just a retard. Kiara can do or say what she wants.

>>4248479
The story unironically bored me to tears. I literally dropped it at the prologue and just jacked it to the cgs in the menu

>>4249088
Mori and Gura think about the children watching their stream.
Kiara says whatever she wants and Ame swears when she gets salty.
Ina goes the farthest when it comes to trying not to swear.

>>4249342
>Gawr "screw the kids" Gura
>Gawr "Cute and funny" Gura
>Caring about kids
Nope, she's just worried about her manager and youtube

I only watched the sex scenes online to jerk off.

Is the rest of the game worth playing?

>>4241853
Its because of Youtube polluted by Amerimutt wokeism, dumb Amerimutt. Reminder Kanata officially clarified the reason that Holo JP members havent gotten swimsuit 3D models after the third gen is due to Youtubes puritan SJW policy.

>>4243621
No they're americans, stop coping

>>4249425
She has the same manager as Kiara and Ame. It's just Gura being self conscious.

>>4249697
Kek, there's plenty of things worse than swimsuited 3D models on Youtube. Cover's just a bunch of pansies jumping at shadows.

Why you care about your holos playing it when nijinigger indogs already doing it way before https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtk8-7EErC_5adiwDohgfMICDrd3QVrHt

>>4249425
Both of those quotes are unassuming for the uninitiated. I think this site is the only place I've seen "cute and funny" used the most.

>>4241853
???
holos played doom and other violent, gory games with body parts and blood splattered across your screen but a peek of panties and your channel gets shut down? what

>>4249769
I'm pretty sure they're more worried about being demonetized and spooking the sponsors off. You know... their bread and butter.

>>4249242
>Kiara can do or say what she wants
No she can’t. She has been limited quite a bit, and even said on stream that’s her outfit was limited by management. Also said on stream also that management has a different standard for Holo EN, where JP has more freedom, which she assumed was for “cultural differences”
>>4249342
>Mori and Gura think about the children watching their stream
Actually Mori said management told her to reduce swearing (they probably said it was to be family friendly), while Gura said: “screw the children”.
>>4249749
Gura has made it clear many times, that she doesn’t care about the kids. She does care about management though.

>>4249898
>sponsors are their bread and butter.
Their bread and butter is memberships + superchat. Gura we know has a minimum of 12k members (because 12k voted on her recent member only poll), and this not counting her superchat money. And since the 12k members are only the people who voted, she likely has 20k members or so, which is $100,000 a month on just members. My point is that sponsors aren’t what’s keeping her from sinking.

>>4249851
Western entretimen plaz Andashstonk

>playing a porn game without the porn
whats the point?

>>4251028
It's cute, like a slice of life anime.

So, I know this is going to ruffle feathers, but let's talk about Nyanners for a second. As any of the Pink Cat Antis can tell you, she was doing a voice over with a few others and then, after a couple of weeks, asked the group to cancel the collaboration because people were shitting on her for playing the game. She only cited that the game got "weird" but it still was brought to her attention that a lot of folks didn't like her playing it.

The point of bringing this up is not to dredge up any Gura vs. Nyanners bullshit but instead to draw up an example that maybe Gura doesn't want to follow. She's probably aware that Nyan tried this and backed out of it after getting backlash and she doesn't want to risk that same problem. Whether Nekopara is "problematic" or not, I can't say. Most of us anime veterans are used to whatever crap happens in the game, and without the hentai scenes it just comes off as kind of pointless, but to a lot of normalfags they look at certain aspects of it and start questioning everything about it. So, Gura is probably just avoiding that shitstorm.