/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>41851401
>sub 700 viewers in 30 minutes
Not that desperate

>Cuckshit Impact
>Niji

>>41851401
>phoneposter
>not blocking ads
>nijinigger
>literal retard
Wow, everything checks out

>>41851401
EN management is really going hard on homos.

Wow, a production company advertising their show. Crazy. Revolutionary. Yagoo is a true visionary.

>>41851401
>watching a Niji
isn't this guy hot shit btw? what happened to his viewers lmao or was it that other dude Rex

>>41851401
reminds me when nijiEN promote their debut music on yt. now that starsEN is doing the same as them, good job i guess.

>>41851401
the first time anything related to holoEN ever used ads to make themselves popular btw

>>41851401
cover only cares about men
a sexist company, though and through

>>41851401
Uh, so what's the problem? I don't see anything wrong with this

>>41851401
I never saw any ads for Holo EN. Tempus must not be doing so good.

>>41852681
>never advertise holoen girls even once for more than 2 years
>advertise homos
another example of favortism

>>41853003
The girls are literally the biggest vtuber group in the world, everyone already knows about them, so what's the fucking point of wasting money advertising them?
Meanwhile these guys need all the help they can get right now.

>>41851401
>advertising is bad
what next? they breathed so you're gonna make 10 threads about that next?

>>41853189
If they're so sad and struggling then why did they neglect the girls to release a second gen of homos in the first place

>>41853189
Why keep throwing money at a failed project?

>>41853189
council could've been an 1 million gen if they had this much advertisement just saying

>>41853003
Why do you care about this as a viewer of male Nijisanji chuubas? Their viewer base is entirely different from that of hololive.

>>41853189
Yeah why does Apple bother to advertise anything? Retard.
>Meanwhile these guys need all the help they can get right now.
No one wants them.

>>41853541
I am so such thing, I don't watch niji. I can ignore nijimales, but homostars are shoved in my face as they drain resources from the girls.

ITT nijinigger pretending to be mad that hololive girls aren’t getting support

>posts a picture of himself watching a nijinale
>”I am so such thing, I don't watch niji”

>>41853329
>>41853388
Because the girls can't destroy Vox and Kuzuha? They need their own male vtubers to fight against Niji's male vtubers.

>>41851401
Jesus
Holostars was a mistake

they're hardly the first to advertise.
Honestly I'm shocked they didn't do it sooner considering Covers general business model and its general incompatibility with the west.
Seems StarsENs management team is a lot more active and intelligent (generally) than LiveENs.

>>41854112
Sure thing, OP.

>>41853869
I'm not op dude

>>41853869
There are about 3 catalog threads on this. No one watches homos it's just another good reason to shit on them and the blatant favouritism.

>>41854314
How did you get that picture, then? Either you’re still a falseflagging nijinigger from /NijiEN/, or you’re a holofag fishing for new bait material (like this one) on /NijiEN/.
In either case, you do not watch streams and you should kill yourself.

>>41854247
>Seems StarsENs management team is a lot more active and intelligent (generally) than LiveENs.
Fucking lmao, good one anon
Debuting a new gen of shitters less than six months after your first, having some of them become 3views within the first few weeks, while the star of your gen loses his mind and gets suspended in under 6 months.
They're basically geniuses, the Einsteins of vtuber management

>>41854479
You neither watch homos nor holos, faggot.

>>41853885
Are you joking?
>Vox
Destroyed himself. Have you seen his views lately? The chinks dropped him.
>Kuzuha
Regularly dumpstered by Pekora.

>>41854846
By the looks of it they had planned for eight originally, took on eight and spaced them as much as they reasonably could.
After all Covers talents get salary. Every month they spend pre-debut is pure cost.
As for Vesper going nuts and being a total menhara sperg? You can't really blame Cover for that.

And overall they're still pulling impressive numbers. Bettel is streaming now and is pulling about 2k live viewers for nothing but him making a bunch of sims.
Yeah sure those ain't hololive numbers. But lets face it. Simps.

>>41855428
They're in entirely different markets.

>>41855734
I just compared two EN and JP talents to another two EN and JP talents. What "market" do you possibly think they're in?

>>41853679
Ehhh yeah, nijinigger ahaha

>>41855428
Retard, people who watch Pekora will never watch Kuzuha and vice versa, Cover needs to take Kuzuha's viewers away from him

I think it's quite magnanimous of HoloEN management to directly fund Nijisanji by giving them ad revenue from the earnings of their talents.

>>41851401
you faggots will find anything to lose your fucking mind over.

>>41851401
YOU AREN'T HOMOCHADS

YOU'RE JUST BOG STANDARD FAGGOTS

>>41851401
complains about males while watching males

No wonder the girls are on soft strike. All the money they earn is being used to advertise and make animations for the homos, while simultaneously funneling money to Nijisaniji.

>>41851401
Am i supposed to laugh at NijiCN's pathetic CCV?
Am I supposed to laugh at Tempiss for putting ads at their competitor's channels?
I'm confused
Or maybe I'm supposed to laugh at both of them

>>41853388
They aren't. That's why there's no EN3, anon

>>41853885
HOLOLIVE IS NOT NIJISANJI

COCA COLA IS NOT PEPSI

>>41851401
lmao based.

>>41851401
>dumping money on ads for 3view nobodies on 3view nobody channels
End this failed experiment already.

>>41851401
its the nijisanji way

who even is watching this trash?

>Tempus is a success you unicorn schizo, touch grass
Now what faggots?

triple3 should stick to just the girls and not faggy males

>>41857962
YOU WILL LIKE NEW COKE!

>>41858956
BUT NOBODY LIKES NEW COKE

WE LIKED THE OLD COKE, WITH GOORAH AND DEEMMMCEE

>>41857962
You're not wrong. But the reality is, Coca Cola would be way bigger and more profitable if Pepsi, their big competitor, doesn't exist.

>>41855823
One targets simps, one targets thots.

Also all those complaining about the ads "funneling money to nijisanji"
Youtube applies the ads algorithmically. You don't get to choose on whose videos the ads appear.
Meaning HoloStars ads have a high probability of appearing on the channels of other male vtubers or just vtubers in general.

>>41851401
>Having to steal shilling tactics from idolEN
How low has HoloEN fallen

>>41859980
I don't think IdolEN was first to advertise.
I was seeing indies buying youtube ads back during covid.

It's so weird that this shit exists for starsEN but holoEN has basically zero advertising presence.

>>41859296
it's just a callback to people saying the same shit about nijisanji running ads and them appearing on holo videos.

>>41860495
LiveEN and StarsEN have different teams running them.
While both report to the general HoloProEN management they're different groups and it seems the StarsEN management are more willing to do something useful when they have the opportunity.

>>41851401
Holotrash leeching from NijiGods. I see nothing unusual here.

>>41860929
>LiveEN

>>41860929
>LiveEN
It's holoen. Christ, you leeches even want to steal the name now.

>>41860929
Cuz they're losing money and about to get shitcanned, the only thing that motivates a middle manager.

>>41851401
Has Cover ever use paid advertised for a new gen before? I thought they got by through hype and word-of-mouth viral marketing?

I like how there's not a single argument for why this should exist other than "they deserve it incel" in this thread

>>41864173
>Company markets its product (streamers)
This makes the tribalfag NEET schizoid seethe and peepee

>>41864825
Post one (1) ad from ANY of holoJP, ID, EN or StarsJP

>>41860929
>LiveEN
Holy shit please kill yourself

>>41851401
>actually resorting to ads to push your failing male branch
The absolute fucking state of EN management

I've been staying neutral and just refusing to watch them this entire time. If I get a single ad about them on youtube I'll go full blown anti.

>>41866216
>>41862005
>>41861660
Well it is the more accurate term considering they're both part of holopro

>>41853541
Kek not really, tempus2 have more niji overlap than holoen, in other word they have nijifanbase aswell.

>>41851401
>spend all superchat money on ads to farm views for a dead video of a dead branch

>>41872004
We’re not talking about overlap between Tempus and niji, it’s holoen and niji because OP tranny watches niji males while crying about discrimination against holoen girls.

>>41873888
only /mans/ fags are trannies here let's not get it twisted

>>41868052
And they will still call it a success

>>41873977
t. OP tranny

>>41874153
settle down you dickless incel faggot, nijisisters are at least chinese women where as you, you will never be a woman.

>>41855648
You have a source for the fact that the talents get paid before debut? I remember Mumei being unable to buy games on her debut and Regis having to delay his cover since he hadn't gotten the money from his first paycheck.

>>41858699
T-they just need a little more help, just wait!

>>41851401
lmao is this the first time Cover made an ad for something that's not Holofes?

>>41851401
Disgusting favoritism

>>41876606
Yes, every other gen before them has had enough hype and excitement to be marketed through word-of-mouth alone

>>41851401
Rent free

>>41881737
something something Azur Lane something something

>>41851401
>Holo running commercials on Niji
Kek

>>41851401
Embarassing. They must be doing really badly.

>>41855648
2K with debut buff and you call that impressive? that miserable at best. Litteraly any hololive girl can have this much for superchat reading stream at shitty hours.
> b-but it's good for stars standar
It would be good without the debut buff on a the shitty scale of stars standar, maybe. Still not justifying wasting money on them.

>>41851401
>NOOOOOOOO! NOT HOMOBRONIES INTERRUPTING MY HECKIN KINO NIPPLENIGGER STREAM NOOOOOOO!

>>41851401
>needing to resort to ads for a new gen
This is a new low for EN.

>>41882024
Anon, the idea of an ad is to pay money just to get people to think about you. If I was one of them and was asked by management if I wanted this shit I would cringe and tell them hell no, you'd have to be completely shameless to not be ashamed of yourself being so bad they have to buy ads just to desperately try to get people to watch you.
This is literally as close as they can possibly come to actually paying the fucking rent.

>>41851401
wow they are VERY desperate for their Vox. Cover has realized that StarsJP is dead in the water and are shooting all their shit with this homoEN batch. This will probably be the last group for a year and a half or so.

>>41891729
Watch JP7 come out this year and rake in more cash

>>41851401
I still remember Nijisanji continuously advertising that one video with the thumbnail/title that said "YOUR WHAT FELL OFF?!?!?!?" for multiple months. I'm pretty sure it's still one of the top viewed videos on the NijiEN channel

>>41857687
The crying emoji above the '685 watching' is fucking pottery.

>>41891610
>having shame in entertainment business
this is why you aren't one of them. I really don't see how advertising yourself is bad, you invest money to make more money in the future

>>41891610
most anons here are retarded and dont understand the concept of advertising and networking

>begging niji viewers to save the homoflops
Why did they even invest in these guys? No one wanted more male vtubers.

>>41851401
Watch this history lesson instead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxzq1oSY2iw

>>41895901
>I really don't see how advertising yourself is bad, you invest money to make more money in the future
It doesn't work for one, indies and nijis used this kind of advertising way more agressively and the only thing that happened was that the ad had a lot of views, most people just don't pay attention to ads.
Also StarsJP never got this kind of thing, so Tempus is getting preferential treatment within the company and there's no way you can tell me "this is good btw", it just paints a negative image of them

>>41895901
Every time I see somebody seethe over Hololive actually trying to advertise ANYTHING within their company (could be using the homos to test efficacy of EN advertising) I remember that this board is filled with retarded NEETs and SEAdogs who don't understand anything about the industry they religiously follow

>>41898256
>Every time I see somebody seethe over Hololive actually trying to advertise ANYTHING within their company
Never happened

>>41898256
>(could be using the homos to test efficacy of EN advertising)
That's a cute coping angle.
7/10 for originality

>>41898446
>Didn't read this whole thread

>>41898696
>Still seething for some reason

You know you don't actually have to be the channel owner to run something as an ad, right? You can put any video URL into adsense even if it's not yours
I'm surprised more people don't drop a few grand on viewbotting their 2view oshi like this

>>41851401
Advertising does reek of desperation. Who is that for? The 5 people who are interested in male vtubers, but somehow have no idea that tempus exists?

as someone who hates homostars, i'm fine with this, cover stopped being retarded and isn't pushing unity between holostars/hololive anymore,that was their main method of promoting tempus, which didn't work because the average hololive fan isn't interested in watching male vtubers, which i think they've finally realized, so instead of pushing for them to collab with the girls for the sake of promotion, they're just making ads about them, which is better for everyone, even if it does totally reek of desperation

>>41899309
See you next month! You know Mori, Ame, Kronii and ID will push more collabs

>>41899090
>>41899309
Why is advertising desperation? Is it because everybody thinks that every Vtuber must rise solely on viral word of mouth and YT algorithm and can't have any promotion at all? Especially for their sub brand that has barely any name recognition compared to the parent group?

>>41851401
More evidence of Hololive sexism.

>>41871870
Nope, now KYS Cover bootlicker

>>41899448
Because it gives people an excuse to complain about the brand they don't like, just like when NijiEN ran the debut group songs for their first two waves as ads on hololive streams

>>41899400
ehh ID i can picture but even on the EN side, aside from a tweet promoting them when they debuted, the girls have mostly left them alone... i picture that's because these new boys are very obviously geared towards a different market, i think they wanted tempus1 to appeal to the female/gay market but they didn't, so they're overcorrecting now with the designs of the new boys... so desu i could see the new boys not collabing with the EN girls cause they're clearly meant for a different audience, they tried to play the brotuber angle with tempus1 which meant trying to market them to the average male hololive fan, but these new guys aren't going for that angle, so i could picture management telling the boys to back off from the collabing with the girls because this time, they are very actively targeting different audiences unlike tempus1 which tried to target a new audience, failed, and reverted back to trying to appeal to the main hololive demographic. ID is such a small market on the other hand, so it's sort of worth sacrificing that entire branch for the potential of gettinh a new vox

>>41899898
yeah and that also reeked of desperation, if coca-cola started a live streaming company, and pepsi started running ads on their livestreams constantly, that would come off as desperate, it's the same thing here, advertizing is fine but they're obviously trying to capture the niji-male audience which comes off as desperate

>>41899012
every time I've seen a small corpo use ads as an attempt to reach new viewers they don't get many if they get them at all. even normalfags just wait for the skip button or have an adblock of some kind

>>41900067
> if coca-cola started a... company, and pepsi started running ads...constantly
Businesses literally do this retard

>>41898819
>>41898256
>Every time
>Hololive
>Actually meant the sole time and holostars

>>41899448
So why didn't they do this with StarsJP? Pure favoritism for their EN brand?

>>41900556
>HoloX gets promotions
AHHH THEY DON'T DESERVE IT THEY'RE THE SHILL GEN

>Myth (mostly Mori) gets promotion and discussion on TV for her albums
AHHH THEY DON'T DESERVE IT THEY'RE JUST A SIDE BRANCH

>Homos get digital ads
AHHH THEY DON'T DESERVE IT THEY KILLED HOLOLIVE

literally happens all the time

>>41900614
Don't ask me nigger, if I ran Hololive there'd be a 2-3 month promotion period upon debut to drive viewer awareness and create early merch opportunities to establish the girls. But they're still operating like a startup company.

>>41900200
way to completely disregard the point i made retard

>>41901051
>Trying to steal market share is desperation
I'm glad nobody here who cares about this shit has a job or they'd crash companies with no survivors.

>>41900787
>has to conflate promotions that everyone gets with an ad campaign
Lmao the absolute reach

>>41901150
>promotions
>that everyone gets
Lul

>>41851401
>Sees Hololive ads all the time
As desperate as Hololive apparently.
>>41851851
Ver is one of the better males of Xsol, yes. He's pretty damn chill.

>>41901191
Yes, next question
Who else has gotten an ad campaign?

>>41896145
Homega explains everything

>>41901272
>>Sees Hololive ads all the time
Uh? Where?

>>41901276
Literally HoloMyth. HoloJP when they have crossover events. It's not weird at all.

>>41899448
beacuse they've never done this before, and there's never been an english holo""pro"" gen that's preformed as badly as tempus2

>>41902399
Is this the first time Cover has done youtube ads?

>>41902269
there's a difference between some gacha advertisement vs ''hey hey hey watch my channel pls I need the subs'' desperation

>>41902756
No, you're just nitpicking.
An advertisement featuring your group, is an advertisement, period.

>>41902671
I'm pretty sure it is. I can't recall them ever doing it in the 3ish years I've been paying attention.
I remember there was a lot of shitposting when nijiEN bought ads for their songs, and I'm sure that if they had holo ads to throw back in the face of the shitposters they would've done so.

>>41902269
Post it. Ad videos are just youtube videos so you can just post the ad video

>>41902671
Yes, that's the point of the thread

>>41851401
So that’s where my money is going to? What a fucking joke HoloEn management is.

EN management lol
I'm so fascinated by how they're so bad that they've effectively become a dramaproducing entity.

Do ad views count for views on the regular video even if no one clicks it? Were the numbers so dismal they had to resort to this so the animation didn't become a "waste"?

>>41905282
they do, is what makes nijisanji debut songs be so popular

>>41905569
Rent Free

>>41901139
Go to bed axel

>>41905194
Their becoming effective spinners of truth as they managed to convince Cover and some fans that Tempus2 is a success

>>41851401
lol

>>41909278
>Axel thinks Holo has shit marketing
> I think Holo has shit marketing
WE ARE

>>41851401
lol

>>41851401
Show the ad i want to watch it.

>>41915096
You have enough information there to look it up yourself, zoomerbrained troon.

>>41876606
They took out real life ads in japan for the newest generation of JP homos. Actually insane, letting your successful branch rot and investing into dead ones instead

>>41851401
No refunds

>>41915724
Uproar were actually the first stars gen to succeed at their stated goal of appealing to women. They have a 50-80% female audience compared to earlier Holostars' 20-50%.
Naturally EN ignored this and had Tempus follow the same routine as JP Stars 1 of shoving them in front of hololive fans to get eviscerated by angry unicorns

>>41916956
>>41915724

I dunno, do they really want a foot on the fujo market so badly? That market is competitive and saturated as fuck, you can see DOZENS of big money fujo vn/gacha/anime/multimedia crashing and burning HARD every single year.

You can't get the fujos by half assing it, you need to open a new market like vox or just be better than everyone else.

>>41874526
Yeah he's bullshitting. Kiara's taljed about having very little money prior to membership opening/SC's. There was even this cute little clip about what she was gonna spend her first check on. I still wonder if Brotori got that ps5 he wanted.

>>41851401
Great, now they will stop shoving homos to the girls audience's face right?

>>41905282
they do, that's why sometimes when you get a video as an ad and you go to that channel, it has way more views than anything else on that channel and barely any likes for what the viewcount is. The video they're using for Tempus is already the most viewed video on the HolostarsEN channel by an extremely wide margin because of this ad and it will probably be the only video on the channel with over a million views, but it will only have like 10k likes, which is really low for the view count it has. For comparison, the RoberuNightMea cover that was uploaded a week ago has 111k views and 11k likes

chuubas are apparently either lazy or desperate

>>41915235
i will not watch your videos nigger

>>41921610
>Gura comes back
>Homo ad rolls

>>41921293
a barely thought out plan that was only kind of put into motion, it certainly sounds like a cover corp move to me

>>41929873
cringe

>>41851401
OP here. Actually found something even more desperate, pandering to /vt/