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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*>https://playboard.co/en/>http://ikioi-ranking.com/>https://vrabi.net/>https://www.vstats.jp>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-rankingHololive sites>https://holo.poi.cat/>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html>https://trackholo.live/en/Nijisanji sites>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly>https://twitter.com/2434rankings>https://twitter.com/2434subscriberTwitch>https://sullygnome.com/>https://twitchtracker.com/>https://stats.roki.sh/Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp
Specter sales per Oricon (physical only):15,855 preorders4,259 first day sales2,735 second day sales22,849 albums sold at 3,300 yen (25.40 USD or 23.99 euro)75,401,700 yen or 580,366.88 USD or 534,447.25 euroSpecter (HR) is still first on Mora although Specter (normal) fell to sixth and Still Still Stellar to 12th. Suisei also lost first place on the artist ranking to Official HigeDandyism. MGO's Overture was 91st having fallen down, I don't think anyone saw how high it reached? Specter is still second on JP iTunes and top 10 in Taiwan, Hong Kong and Macau, although it is freefalling in US and Canada. Still Still Stellar is 15th. Sinderella is down seventeen places to 98th on the albums and Pekomiko four to 5th on the singles ranking.On Oricon, Hanatan fell from third to fifth. Hanatan (AAC) is 4th on Mora singles ranking and somehow Hanatan (FLAC) is simultaneously both 53rd on singles and 54th on albums. Also 16th on iTunes.
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *>44,333: Pekora (Hololive)>36,795: Choco (Hololive)>31,879: Subaru (Hololive)>24,141: Iroha (Hololive)>18,984: Aqua (Hololive)>17,695: Hololive (Hololive)>17,636: Mio (Hololive)>16,549: Patra (774 inc)>15,887: Kanata (Hololive)>15,531: Flare (Hololive)>13,425: Met (774 inc)>12,795: Luca (Nijisanji)>12,016: Lamy (Hololive)>11,865: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>11,785: Hayato (Nijisanji)>11,636: Fauna (Hololive)>11,136: Toko (Nijisanji)>11,088: Mysta (Nijisanji)>11,038: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)>10,949: Mumei (Hololive)>10,527: Mika (Nijisanji)
Pekora has no sex appeal btw.
>>41842644>JANUARY 2023 GOLDS1) Hololive (Hololive) - 142,855 - Human Rabbitality Project2) Pekora (Hololive) - 178,006 - Pokemon Metronome tournament3) Towa (Hololive) - 101,269 - 3rd anniversary 3D live4) Pekora (Hololive) - 139,262 - Gamers x Sankisei collab5) Watame (Hololive) - 39,137 - Bakatare Circus ludo6) Nerumero (Indie) - 39,961 - Genshin update mirror stream7) Towa (Hololive) - 112,852 - Holo New Year MK Cup 20238) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 122,719 - Niji Mahjong Cup 20239) Pekora (Hololive) - 55,370 - GeoGuessr10) Subaru (Hololive) - 54,841 - TsuneMOS Tycoon11) Pekora (Hololive) - 43,113 - Birthday countdown12) Pekora (Hololive) - 142,282 - 3D birthday live13) Pekora (Hololive) - 33,367 - Minecraft RTA14) Pekora (Hololive) - 78,227* - Holomen gift opening15) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,445 - Pekkorone Ao Oni16) Pekora (Hololive) - 38,305 - Daimakaimura endurance17) Koyori (Hololive) - 65,592 - Momotetsu w/Pekora, Subaru & Botan18) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 42,343 - Apex CR cup scrims19) Nozomi (Nijisanji) - 61,597 - Debut stream20) Roco (Nijisanji) - 69,519 - Debut stream21) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 59,617 - Apex CR cup22) Toya (Nijisanji) - 53,947 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 w/Leos23) Pekora (Hololive) - 39,786 - Cooking stream24) Pekora (Hololive) - 38,726 - Minecraft25) Pekora (Hololive) - 42,769 - Viewer room reviews26) Suisei (Hololive) - 54,206 - New hairstyle reveal27) Pekora (Hololive) - 44,333 - GeoGuessr tournament w/Nene, Subaru & Noel>PER COMPANY20x: Hololive6x: Nijisanji1x: Indie>PER STREAMER13x: Pekora2x: Kuzuha, Towa1x: Hololive, Koyori, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Nozomi, Roco, Subaru, Suisei, Toya, Watame
>>41842685gay
>>41841629That's life...
>for those who missedHololive (the JP branch) is slightly down from their all time high point reached on the 16th but, by chaining the Minecraft arc and lifting most of the girls willing to participate, they are still over a 13k average.This will come down when the marvelous first week of January falls out of range (taking away all of those 100k+ streams) but it is still impressive.
Melon>irys
https://youtu.be/GSvtZqD-ZeMSovl
>>41842749pls do tempiss and tempoopI want to look at some GRIM shit
>>41842734>It would be a bad business move not to
>>41842734>with how massive Stars is gettingNah, i absolutely refuse to believe this isn't a falseflagger from here
>/#/ hates HoloEN>/hlg/ hates HoloEN>/vyt/ hates HoloEN>Niji generals hates HoloEN>small corpofags hates HoloEN>/LIG/ hates HoloEN>/vshojo/ hates HoloENHow did this happen? If it was only nijisanji and /#/ that hated them you could argue that it is just consolewar tribalfagging, but basically every single general on this board outside of the holoEN splits despises HoloEN. Mention HoloEN in a small corpo and people will start spitting on the groundAny lorefags have a rundown on how HoloEN got so hated everywhere else but the usual hugboxes???
>>41842646>physical onlyJesas, now imagine how much more she`s made from those who buy online versions like normal human beings
>>41842734how to be a Holo-anti without looking like a Holo-anti.
>>41842839It's worse
>>41842861There's no rundown, it's board culture at this point.
>>41842839>with how massive Stars is gettingAnon 3's been warning you for a while now. Despite their numbers, Tempus is being spun as a colossal success.
Machina X Flayon is now streaming. I'm going to watch his stream and used my honed numbers mind to tell him exactly how to incline his career.
>>41842734>Dude post in the trash taste subredditI blame Mori for this.
>>41842937>colossal successthey are, just compare them to Uproar!
>>41842734That has got to be a targeted troll/anti post. There's just no way, it's perfect rage bait
GRIM
Does holoJP also have homobeggars?
>>41842839Dont be surprised when StarsID happens
>>41842734Both gens have girls that won't be on the same stream together and this dude thinks they'll be on stage together LMAO
>>41842734>with how massive Stars is gettinglmao is this retard for real?
>>41842813I remember the clip when Miko casually waking up Pekora in the morning just to play Minecraft, i can't find it anymore
>>41843045Yes, sometimes you see them but they are not as numerous as on the EN/ID side, they are just as shameless though.
Why the fuck you all keep posting random Homobeggar post just to seethe about it? There must be something better y’all could discuss
>>41842916kek of course
>>41843045unlike ENfags if they get too cocky they end up doxxed by nipbros
>>41843081You don't get it do you.Of course, the girls are just DYING to collab with Tempus, begging Yagoo on their knees to do something, and if it wasn't for those pesky incel/unicorn literally holding them at gunpoint, they would have all done so already.
>>41843045No. The yumes never involve the girls.
>>41843152He apparently follows Nux as well
>>41842646Ah, meant to write: Still Still Stellar is 15th on iTunes.On Oricon physical sales it's at 21st today up from 27th yesterday, before that it was below the publicly available top 30. Sinderella and Pekomiko are from iTunes.
>>41842813Whaat? miko has a pekomiko clip on her channel?
>>41842701friendly reminder the tally is rigged and this shithead stole mikos gold because "it didn't look organic"
I ain't giving that a view but the Okayu is Fumihiko right
>>41843274Yeah the tally has always been worthless, the mask just came off.
the second best part about Gura revealing what she's up to so far is how POORLY the leddit post about gura and the homo agedthe timing almost perfect too, almost as if it was on purpose
>>41843274its always been hot garbage, the tally schizo massages things so whomever he wants to win does
>>41842880Digital-sale royalties are so close to zero, only the top .000x% of artists receive a countable amount of them.She probably doesn't get paid for any sale if she doesn't write her songs. (She only wrote the lyrics to "Ghost," I think.) She gets a fee to sing—or maybe not. It might be part of her Hololive job. Performer royalties do exist, but she's not famous enough to get them.Music is a shit business (for musicians).
>>41843361As if homobeggars can feel any shame
>>41843045>holoJPNo such thingIt's called hololive
>>41842819Having debuted very recently, it is still too early to do the second batch of Tempus but, for whole branch, here it goes.>pic relatedThey came out from their very very VERY high debut buff, which constantly wore off up until they more or less stabliized on the 2.7k line in early October, and remained like that more or less until mid November when a STEEP recline kicked in.They benefited from Vesper return from his suspension to incline back to a 2k average in early January, then the newly debuted boys pushed them as "high" as a 2.6k average on the 16th.It seems the new boys debut buff wore off much quicker than the old ones tho, and the branch as a whole already reclined back into the 2.3k region less than one month after the debuts, meaning they will more likely than not recline below the 2k line after the "month" anniversary of the second batch if nothing exceptional happens in the meantime.
my cute wife
>>41843109go ahead, discuss
>the super expo 2023 preview video starts with starsgod they are just not giving up are they
>>41843505it doesn't look organicLMFAOOO
>>41843505SURELY the red faggot can get 1k with the horror buff.
>>41843505I'm watchinghttps://youtu.be/MaXIFsDgQKM
>>41843361These people don't care, the guy who made that post has probably never watched a minute of a Gura stream. It's ridiculous to imply her shyness is somehow similar to Vesper having a 1.5 month international schizo breakdown that has destroyed his relationship with his coworkers
>>41843274It has always been garbage because the retard can't stay neutral.
>>41843226Pre xmas rape 2020, good old days
>>41843296no thats kajimakoto
>>41843530lmao nice one
>>41843468thank you
>>41843529Tempus3 will debut before EN3
>>41843274He does shit like that all the time. Got to find the right filter that makes sense lol.
>>41843582https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/5647826?q=kajimakoto+nekomata_okayuNice thanks
>>41843448It's 4 am in Jakarta, SEAnigger. Shouldn't you be sleep?
>JANUARY 2023 GOLDS1) Hololive (Hololive) - 142,855 - Human Rabbitality Project2) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 50,738 - Nijisanji New Year Cup of Poker3) Towa (Hololive) - 101,269 - 3rd anniversary 3D live4) Luna (Hololive) - 55,268 - 3rd anniversary 3D live5) Watame (Hololive) - 39,137 - Bakatare Circus ludo6) Nerumero (Indie) - 39,961 - Genshin update mirror stream7) Towa (Hololive) - 112,852 - Holo New Year MK Cup 20238) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 122,719 - Niji Mahjong Cup 20239) Ina (Hololive) - 35,527 - Comeback stream10) Korone (Hololive)) - 23,860 - Street Fighter 511) Tohya (Nijisanji) - 35,703 - Tetris Effect12) Hibari (Nijisanji) - 29,480 - New outfit13) VOLTACTION (Nijisanji) - 29,363 - 6th month aniversary14) Elira (Nijisanji) - 55,825 - 3D debut15) Korone (Hololive) - 59,439 - Ao Oni race16) Kanata (Hololive) - 24,651 - 1.3 million sub endurance17) Koyori (Hololive) - 65,592 - Momotetsu w/Botan18) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 42,343 - Apex CR cup scrims19) Nozomi (Nijisanji) - 61,597 - Debut stream20) Roco (Nijisanji) - 69,519 - Debut stream21) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 59,617 - Apex CR cup22) Tohya (Nijisanji) - 53,947 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 w/Leos23) Lamy (Hololive) - 31,493- Comeback stream24) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 24,063 - Lol25) Choco (Hololive) - 25,859 - YAGOO sculpture collab26) Ayame (Hololive) - 24,652 - Minecraft w/ Mio27) Choco (Hololive) - 36,795 - Cooking collab w/ Lui>PER COMPANY14x: Hololive12x: Nijisanji1x: Indie>PER STREAMER3x: Kuzuha2x: Nijisanji, Towa, Tohya, Korone, Choco1x: Hololive, Nerumero, Watame, Ina, Elira, Nozomi, Roco, Lamy, Kanata, Hibari, VOLTACTION, Koyori, AyameFor reference this list disqualifies Pekora, Miko, Marine, Subaru, and Suisei.
>>41843709>remove first army>still lose
>>41843468>>41843595Here is a "zoomed in" version of the same chart, cutting away their debut buff weeks and restricting the Y axis to make the recent ups and downs more salient.Even with the "massive" numbers for the debuts and the debut buff they still didn't reach the same "heights" of their months before November.
>>41843709Choco too strong remove her too
>>41843680>Projecting SEAnigger calling me SEAnigger
>>41843767Once they reach 3k average they'll drop tempiss3
*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*>1/27 DAILY TALLY12,795: Luca (Nijisanji)11,636: Fauna (Hololive)11,088: Mysta (Nijisanji)10,949: Mumei (Hololive)8,242: Ike (Nijisanji)6,887: Ina (Hololive)6,751: Elira (Nijisanji)6,654: Pomu (Nijisanji)6,413: Baelz (Hololive)>EN GOLD FOR JANUARY 20231. Amelia (Hololive) - 19,255 (New Years Countdown and Karaoke)2. Vox (Nijisanji) - 15,692 (Clubhouse Games w/Mysta)3. Mumei (Hololive) - 14,736 (Tasting Fruits w/Fauna)4. Ike (Nijisanji) - 7,576 (Kuukiyomi 3)5. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 12,036 (Return stream)6. Vox (Nijisanji) - 13,946 (Collab w/Petra, Enna, Reimu, Sonny, Scarle, Doppio, Kotoka, and Ver)7. Amelia (Hololive) - 24,748 (Mini Live and Birthday Zatsu)8. Flayon (Hololive) - 30,354 (Vtuber Debut)9. Ina (Hololive) - 35,609 (Return Stream)10. Pomu (Nijisanji) - 21,699 (w/Reimu, Vox, Ren, Scarle, Sonny, Uki, Aia, Kyo, Fungus, Zaion, Ike, Doppio, and Enna)11. Alban (Nijisanji) - 10,434 (Heave Ho w/Fungus, Uki, and Sonny)12. Ina (Hololive) - 14,195 (Drawing)13. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 14,877 (Luxiem Off-collab)14. Elira (Nijisanji) - 56,103 (3D Debut)15. IRyS (Hololive) - 9,798 (GeoGuesser)16: Mori (Hololive) - 21,756 (Monopoly w/Kronii, Noir, and Magni)17. Luxiem Channel (Nijisanji) - 27,078 (Super Smash Bros. Off Collab FIRST EVER OMG)18. Amelia (Hololive) - 9,448 (Return Stream)19. Mumei (Hololive) - 12,204 (Drawing w/Ina)20. Mumei (Hololive) - 13,608 (JP Karaoke)21. Finana (Nijisanji) - 32,491 (3D Debut)22. Selen (Nijisanji) - 32,339 (0 Stars, not enough flips, not in Tokyo Dome)23. Selen (Nijisanji) - 29,293 (0 Stars, Jay Briscoe is rolling in his grave)24. Mumei (Hololive) - 10,836 (Minecraft w/Kaela)25. Millie (Nijisanji) - 7,600 (Offcollab w/ Elira, Rosemi, Enna, Nina)26. Baelz (Hololive) - 10,464 (Minecraft)26. Luca (Nijisanji) - 12,795 (Minecraft)>GOLD PER COMPANYNijisanji - 14Hololive - 13Others - 0>GOLD PER STREAMER4x: Mumei3x: Amelia2x: Ina, Vox, Mysta, Selen1x: Ike, Flayon, Pomu, Alban, Elira, IRyS, Mori, Finana, Millie, Baelz, Luca>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)26p: Mumei25p: Ina19p: Vox17p: Mysta16p: IRyS, Fauna15p: Amelia13p: Selen8p: Kiara, Ike, Millie, Baelz, Luca6p: Kronii5p: Flayon, Pomu, Alban, Elira, Mori, Finana3p: Sonny, Hakka, Enna1p: Meloco, Shinri, Gavis, Axel, Uki, Regis
>>41843274Tally is there for comedic purposes.Namely to laugh at the retard that posts it.
>>41843680Kobo playing geoguessr today, indochads shall rise as the queen make it into the tally
>>41843854Is she going to showcase the slums?
>>41843793>accurately called you out so now I'm projecting Lol
>>41843814Lucubs raped fauna...
>>41842839Could be, but there are definitely some retards that never look at the actual numbers and just make up the numbers for the Homos in their heads.I've seen it so many times especially with their 3D debuts and usually saying something like they're in the same boat as Hololive was in 2020 or 2019.
When it comes to vtuber agencies, are there any business practices you feel are outdated?
>>41843907Reine already did that yesterday.
>>41843911Die SEAnig
>>41842734>It would be a bad business move not toLMAO. Even Nijisanji lately segragates males and females for such events. It happened for nijifes and will happen for that EN one. I much more trust Anycolor that is under IPO to know what good business move is, than a fucking redditor.
>>41843948Bragging about talent freedom
>>41843752It's because you people raised so much of a fuss when I put Korone and Koyori on the 1st army list. If you took them out Nijisanji has more golds.
Kiara hinted that holoen has something big at holofes and to get hype
>>41843948Saying "we don't impose restrictions on our talent".
>>41843948For big corpos: making talents provide their own PCsShould ship them pre set up computers for work purposes onlyHaving talents do all of their work on their own machines is an opsec risk, leads to stream delays and interruptions when they break (which is lost revenue), and reduces stream quality when your talents are streaming on 10 year old AMD cards for their first 3 months before the big checks start rolling in.
>>41844059Because they're not first army you dumbfuck
>>41844061No shit, we already know what it is.
>>41843951I can see Reine doing it>OOOOH HO HO HO HO>THIS IS WHERE POOR PEOPLE LIVE?>YOU GUYS DON'T LIVE LIKE THAT, DO YOU?while showing upper middle class neighbourhoods
>>41844112>consistantly get 20k+ >NO THEY AREN'T FIRST ARMY BECAUSE THAT MEANS HOLOLIVE IS NOT TOP HEAVY!!!!!!!!!!
>>41843752Removing First Army and still lose is arguably more embarrassing than just leave them in and make excuse that they are “unfair”
homo 1k KNEEL
>>41844068>Should ship them pre set up computers for work purposes onlyThat's silly. Botan and Sora have completely different necessities with regards to their rigs.And if you think management is slow to provide "soft" support with regards to the simplest things like permissions and the likes, imagine having to wait until HQ unfuck their shit and manage to actually send either a new work computer to replace the one that just won't work or the crew to repair the old one.Not even for JP that would work.
>>41844172>still loseI don't care what company gets more golds, I just want to show what it is like without the first army.
>>41844059>>41844172>If you cut out literally every of Hololive gold Niji would get more goldLmao the more you post the more embarrassing you are. Might as well just put them back in and complain that they are unfair
>>41843406That's only so for musicians under record labels, who eat all the rev made. Like umg mori. Suisei is not.
>>41844158You're actually fucking dumb
>>41844180oh my godrelease tempus3 already, the fans demand it
>>41844112>mr koro not first armylaught! point at the retard and laugh!
>>41844220OK well, read that post and assume I'm talking about a hypothetical competent corporation that could employ good IT staff with fast turnaround, and make arrangements with IT service providers for international talents. And Botan and Sora really don't have that different of requirements for their main PCs. We're talking about peanuts cost-wise here. Just ship every talent a standard, high-end Intel CPU and Nvidia 4090 build. No need to try to miss the forest for the trees and save pennies by shipping Sora a weaker computer than Botan because she doesn't game as much.
>>41843951I thought Reine doesn't give a fuck about indoland
>>41844340Hololive is top heavy and relies on only a handful of talents to get golds. If you remove them the gold variety increases al around.
https://youtu.be/1PIKaB5wCHoRecommend to me,another stream monster...do JP have a lot like koyori and Ka3la?
>>41843917
>>41843814>Fauna actually slippedWhat the fuck, is she really going to end this month without a single cripple gold?
>>41844433the tally is rigged and the tally retard makes whomever he wants to win, win, we need an actual impartial number autist who doesn't massage things until they "feel right"but even accounting for that, holos talents tend to get unarguably bigger numbers
>>41844368What if the talent just end up being a complete clusterfuck and gets terminated on their first week?
>>41844447watame is next after kaela and koyoafter that maybe okayu or lamy or shuba?
>>41844433>Top talents get the top spot consistentlyNo fucking shit Sherlock. Your logic is literally “You have to win gold with your bottom talents for it to count”. Chinman and Kuzuha win gold, are they the top of Nijisanji? They are, and by your definition that mean they are also rely on a few talents to get gold, even more than Hololive
>>41844508That's what I do, I just remove a few vtubers to get the pulse of the industry. I am not biased, I just want to show the variety,
>>41844447Notlulu
*FINAL FIRST ARMY TALLY OF THE DAY">44,333: Pekora (Hololive)>31,879: Subaru (Hololive)>18,984: Aqua (Hololive)
>>41844352She's literally not.
>>41844550Remotely lock the PC and revoke their work email and Discord access, make arrangements to have it picked up. if they don't cooperate, sue them I guess but it's a loss of about $5,000 and a very unlikely event, so not that big of a deal.
Daily reminder First Army fan art is a thing that exists.
>>41844561Those two aren't even half of the niji golds. Pekora is 65% of the hololive golds. It's much more top heavy in hololive.
Let's see what EN has in store for us today.>Bae playing another shitty JRPG>Overlapped by Fauna ASMR because Fauna didn't learn the lesson that people use ASMR to fucking SLEEP
>>41844662Any tag?
>>41844623can we get a left-handed-only tally?
>>41843709Remove Holo 1st Army and also Kuzuha and Niji Main channel and see how it goes.
>>41844059Remove Niji "first army" too
>>41844625bro i love onion but she barely streams these daysmight as well throw ayame after her break in, she has novelty boost
>>41844688ASMR thrives on vod views anyway
Cover should recruit bruce as black vtuber for tempiss3 and you have your 25k streamer now in holo.
>>41844801VOD views are cope, otherwise Gura would be the biggest vtuber in the world
>>41844827>would
>>41844804YOYOYO WHATS UP MOTHEFUCKERS ITS TIME TO GAME YAKNOWWHATIMSAYING?
>>41844804Bruce Wayne?
>>41844689I haven't actually looked, I just ran across that one day while browsing 5ch and laughed.
>>41843274Whatever you say 35z
>>41843948Frequent pointless mandatory meetings. In any business the amount of meetings in which all staff need to actually be in attendance is tiny. For the most part it can just be an email or only addressed to the people to whom it is relevant.
>>41844684Ehem we literally have proof itt that remove First Army and Hololive would still take the lead. And that is with Nijisanji getting to keep their top performers in the tallyLook at yourself, look how pathetic your are, you are trying to convince yourself that Hololive having a bunch of top performers is worse than Nijisanji having a bunch of shitters
>>41844801>ASMR thrives on vod viewsYes, not Fauna's ASMRs though
>>41844395She was playing geoguesser there, and at least at the point I was watching the stream she was looking around a real shithole jungle town.
>>41844352Shes 2nd army.
>>41844550If you're Tsunderia or Kawaii then that really fucking sucks for you. If you're Hololive or Nijisanji it's a rounding error.
>>41844986??? her most popular vods are all asmr
>>41844688+ Ame at 11pm EST
>>41844986Yes Fauna's ASMRS too otherwise she wouldn't have the most views in Council
>>41845016What's the cutoff point?
Latest rrat right here! Double graduation by Ina and Gura any time post-Holofes. This is why they were separated from the first batch of ENs who visited JP, as they're also recording for their graduation 3D stream.
>>41845005Most of the maps were shithole jungle towns or urban slums because it's Indonesian and that's most of the places there. Only Bali looked kind of nice and that's basically Indonesia's Hawaii.
>>41844433All of the big vtuber groups are top heavy though. Niji without Kuzuha, Toya, and a few others is pretty weak. NijiEN without Luxiem is even worse. We've seen what happens with HoloEN when Gura is gone. Even Vshojo looks way worse when you subtract Ironmouse.
>>41844739>JANUARY 2023 GOLDS1) Hololive (Hololive) - 142,855 - Human Rabbitality Project2) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 50,738 - Nijisanji New Year Cup of Poker3) Towa (Hololive) - 101,269 - 3rd anniversary 3D live4) Luna (Hololive) - 55,268 - 3rd anniversary 3D live5) Watame (Hololive) - 39,137 - Bakatare Circus ludo6) Nerumero (Indie) - 39,961 - Genshin update mirror stream7) Towa (Hololive) - 112,852 - Holo New Year MK Cup 20238) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 122,719 - Niji Mahjong Cup 20239) Ina (Hololive) - 35,527 - Comeback stream10) Korone (Hololive)) - 23,860 - Street Fighter 511) Noel (Hololive) - 27,633 - NoeFure TakaMori Mario Party12) Hibari (Hololive) - 29,480 - New outfit13) VOLTACTION (Nijisanji) - 29,363 - 6th month aniversary14) Elira (Nijisanji) - 55,825 - 3D debut15) Korone (Hololive) - 59,439 - Ao Oni race16) Kanata (Hololive) - 24,651 - 1.3 million sub endurance17) Koyori (Hololive) - 65,592 - Momotetsu w/Botan18) Nerumero (Indie) - 27,431 - Genshin19) Nozomi (Nijisanji) - 61,597 - Debut stream20) Roco (Nijisanji) - 69,519 - Debut stream21) Towa (Hololive) - 45,227 - Apex CR cup22) Selen (Nijisanji) - 32,259 - Wrestlemania day 1 bracket23) Lamy (Hololive) - 31,493- Comeback stream24) Nene (Hololive) - 21,086 - Minecraft25) Choco (Hololive) - 25,859 - YAGOO sculpture collab26) Ayame (Hololive) - 24,652 - Minecraft w/ Mio27) Choco (Hololive) - 36,795 - Cooking collab w/ Lui>PER COMPANY18x: Hololive7x: Nijisanji2x: Indie>PER STREAMER3x: Towa2x: Nijisanji, Nerumero, Choco, Korone1x: Hololive, Watame, Ina, Elira, Koyori, Nozomi, Roco, Lamy, Kanata, Hibari, VOLTACTION, Noel, Selen, NeneNijisanji gains some ground on hololive so that proves hololive is more top heavy
>>41842646>580k USDnow add the tickets sold in Sololive and Merchand this is just 1 of the talent ( one of the top yes but still just 1 out of 50+)
>>41845140I miss when rrats had more effort put into them
>>41844986>3x 1kk vods>19x +500k vods
>>41844459Shouldn't have spammed debuff shit.
>>41845210>spammed debuff shit>last 2 streams are Minecraft
>>41845197Rrats reflect the oshi.
>>41844688You'd think there'd be some novelty in this since all the female characters basically have Bae's face, but I'm sure it will do badly.
>>41843045you can find the same "unity" faggots in some jp clips comments but the worst faggots usually do what all nip faggots do and just complain about it on their twitter accounts all day, you have to search for them to really find themand when too many people start shitting on them they seppuku their accounts
>>41843974If ENManagement is on charge of a EN event 100% it will be mixed.
>>41844433Is it? Because we've seen a couple days ago AZKi randomly getting 20k+ with Geoguessr and Nene with another random 20k stream. I'd say that the HoloJP box is way more generous than the Niji one, which makes sense considering the different approach of trying to build each talent and give them enough spotlight instead of ACCELERATING 100 shitters per year and letting them to die.
>>41844158Anon, if you have to remove EIGHT streamers to make it competitive it clearly is not "top heavy".Funny thing is that your "no Pekora" tally backfired for similar reasons, you started wanting to prove Hololive depended on Pekora up until Jan 25th (see >>41659353) then it backfired because of>5x: Mikoand>15x: Hololive>8x: Nijisanjithen you most likely than not removed Miko, and realized the next in line would dominate, and started removing one by one until you reached the magic>First army plus Korone and Koyoriyou used for your post at >>41669976 It's a retarded cope, of course if you remove every single one of the Holos that got "gold" Nijisanji will have a fighting chance>in the gold race.Here is for the month of January 2023.>pic related for the median and average table per branchIt is not just that Hololive outranks Nijisanji to an enormous proportion. It is that, even if you remove>Marine, Pekora, Aqua, Subaru, Suisei and Mikoand also remove>Korone and Koyoriand then only consider the 35 strongest channels for Nijisanji in January (list below)>NERFED HOLOLIVE STILL OUTRANKS BOOSTED NIJISANJINijisanji is no longer competitive on the day to day live streams. They're not competitive since mid 2020, early 2021.It's not their business model either, they capitulated on that battle long long LONG ago. The current business model for Nijisanji is to debut new channels and once in a while gather all of their combined audience in a single even on the main channel for a big guaranteed audience that will please the sponsors and fill the company coffers selling sponsor ads, products and making partner spots.The individual streams and streams matter little for them as long as their events and tournaments brings a lot of eyes six times a year.Here is the list of the 35 channels cthosen for Nijisanji>Nijisanji>Kenmochi Toya>Kuzuha>Kagami Hayato>Fuwa Minato>Kaburaki Roco>Yashiro Kizuku>Debidebi Debiru>Hyakumantenbara Salome>Tsukino Mito>Lize Helesta>Maimoto Keisuke>Sophia Valentine>Ange Katrina>Ishigami Nozomi>Lauren Iroas>Inui Toko>Kanae>Koshimizu Toru>Furen E Lustario>Saegusa Akina>Shiina Yuika>Sasaki Saku>Ibrahim>Kuramochi Meruto>Machita Chima>Joe Rikiichi>Amamiya Kokoro>Nui Sociere>Hoshikawa Sara>Ryushen>Fushimi Gaku>Hanabatake Chaika>Kaida Haru>Shikinagi Akiratl;dr: you can lock Pekora into a box, unbraid her hair and ship her to Afghanistan, it doesn't matter. The rest of the company will pick up the slack and they'll still outrank Nijisanji
>>41845300aren't the homos even worse at singing and dancing than the girls?
>>41845258Somehow that erases the SC reading, the Pokemon, and the Slice & fucking Dice.
>>41845197Making good rrats requires actually watching streams.
>>418450992nd Army should also be 6 people but it's a little more debatable who fits into it. I'd chuck out Shion and then for the last one it's a really tough call. They all have strong points.Lamy = moneyBotan = reliable ccvKoyori = insane streaming and relatively good ccvAyame= high ceiling, more frequent streaming (would have said kick her out if asked months ago)Kanata= reliably good ccvNoel= decent ccv, big name cacheFubuki= historical performance and ability to be a top tier streamer whenever she wantsKorone= good ccv and historical performance.I feel like Lamy's earnings have dropped off a decent amount and her ccv has never been something to write home about, so probably her.
>>41845344Yes
>>41844368>Just ship every talent a standard, high-end Intel CPU and Nvidia 4090 build. No need to try to miss the forest for the trees and save pennies by shipping Sora a weaker computer than Botan because she doesn't game as much.OK mate, now how do you deal with the musical instruments Sora will hook up to her computer for her singing streams, something that Botan definitely does not need.
>>41843045Who the fuck do you think invented the term homobegger?
>>41845175To add to this if you remove Koyori, Korone, and Towa Nijisanji has 14 and hololive only has 11. NijiEN also has 5 of those golds.
>>41845372Lamy has reclined. She's changed quite a bit recently even before her menhera break.
>>41844068lets be real, few if any of the girls would bother separating work/pleasure on those computers.
>>41842734>You should see the Holo expo post. Like 80% of the parent comments are about Tempus instead of the girls.That also happened with the Gura and Vesper ''meme'' KEK, it was Chumbuds vs Tempus shillers. Had fun reading the comments though
>>41845372You seem to have no idea what First Army means if this is how you're trying to classify a Second Army.
>>41845395... Have her plug her interface into the work pc, and install the driver for it, like she must have done with her current PC?I'm not suggesting Cover ship the talents standardized peripherals. I'm suggesting they ship them work PCs. Doing so would have averted at least one talent termination, and maybe two (if Rushia would have avoided mixing work and personal stuff if it were a work PC)
Women fans are better at shilling their oshi than menAs Tempus grow expect more and more invasion of Tempus mentions in Hololive posts
>>41845428r/holo and twitter are full of tempus schizos nowadays, be very careful when taking about them while in there.
>>41845545>their oshidyrbi
>>41845545It's not going to work on anything though. Women fans are a minority and their marketshare of vtubing isn't increasing btw, they seem to mostly be fucking off from Niji too.
>>41845524>RushiaYeah nah. that would still have happened at some point
>>41845545if anything people will become more aggressive in mentioning tempus because they are stopping to grow
>>41845197nobody watches streams anymore
>>41845414I guess that puts NijiEN just below the first armies. The branch is 2nd army.
>>41843187What website did you use? I couldn’t find SINDERELLA on Kworb
>>41845420The point is more so that they won't use their preexisting setups. Like Magni doxing himself on like his 3rd stream because the game pulled his file path and it used his roommates name.Separating pleasure is a different thing. Obviously you're not gonna stop a retard from exposing he browses /vt/
>>41842734It's kinda sad to see the subleddit turned like this. Don't get me wrong, leddit is a shithole but it's still the gateway front page of most hobbies and used to be pretty lively during Coco's (unfunny) meme review era. Now it's a fucking empty husk full of unironic Hololive antis and beggars who obviously don't even watch streams. And the moderator is 100% on board with this.
>>41842734>>41842977"hololive" subreddit
>>41845598>Women fans are a minority and their marketshare of vtubing isn't increasing btwtrue, a Luxiem full collab isn't even breaking 20k now.
>>41843529They did the exact same thing last year you fucking newfag
>>41845655Fauna did a similar thing, and plenty of other talents have as well.It's interesting to me that the idea is a little controversial, in my industry it would actually be considered extremely financially irresponsible and risky to NOT ship employees work computers.
>>41845545With how shitty that subrredit is and the constat shilling done by management, I fully expect that to happen.
>>41845675Holo and vtuber subreddits are filled with NijiShills nowadays, of course they want to stirr up drama with tempus
>>41845720I don't disagree its a good idea, I disagree that the talents would put in enough effort that it would actually avoid those problems.
>>41845545I look forward to it, they are steadily burning their goodwill among the normalfags
Is the venue even bigger than last year? Fucking jealous for those gaijins who got picked to attend this IRL
>>41844550You maybe lose the cost of a computer in addition to the loss you’d eat with the model
>>41845785As far as personal use goes, you could probably avoid a lot of that by installing some basic monitoring software and telling the talents that it's on there. Even if no one ever looks at the logs unless some sort of situation occurs, just the fact that stuff is being tracked is a big deterrent.
>>41845193*1 out of 35Im sleepy
>>41845655I feel like a more practical solution would be to instruct the talents in basic opsec
>>41845545Be prepared for the Twitter/Reddit backlash when Vesper's graduation got announced, these clip-watchers would be on full riot
>>41845816Did they explain what each of the booths are?
>>41845638It is there, 99th now: https://kworb.net/charts/aitunes/jp.html
>>41845882Not like they like Hololive to begin with, we lose nothing
>>41845545>As Tempus grow expect more and more invasion of Tempus mentions in Hololive posts>As Tempus growso we're in no danger whatsoever huh?
>>41845545>As Tempus grow
>>41845816holosummer or umisea-themed area far left, wow
>>41845882Oh no, not hololive twitter and Reddit
>>41845816Found this from the old website, 4th Fes might be even bigger than last year
>>41845897No need, we already figured out that these were the gloryhole booths
>>41845327>Nijisanji is no longer competitive on the day to day live streamsOn an individual stream basis sure, but the total peak viewers for each company on days without events tends to be pretty close. There's no real reason other than the slight increased cost of supporting extra members that 100k viewers spread over 50 streams are worth less than the same number over 10, they're just going for the zerg rush strategy and although it doesn't suit this thread's main focus of medians and golds it's clearly working mostly well looking at their financials.
>>41845830kek, that would really stimulate creativity >your work computer is monitored That’s something that doesn’t work even for tech companies, let alone the entertainment industry. Wanna know the best model? >let the streamer figure it out >give them a proper training
>>41845882Just announce EN3 after. Large majority would forget about him.
>>41845882even if Vesper is a very fucked up person I doubt he will graduate, the first homo graduation will probably be someone that will get bored or notice that he has no real future in holostars
>>41845973The food/viewing area at least seems to be twice as large. But yeah, looking at these two site by site it appears to be quite a bit bigger.
>>41845985Slightly buffed Mumei and Fauna can beat 98% of nijiJP
>>41845861At the end of the day, nothing they have on their pc is really a big deal. What do we see? Folders with upcoming stuff, most of which we know. Mundane conversations. Sometimes peoples first names, most of which can easily be found if one is a doxxfag. JAV nipple porn, occasionally. Not high level company secrets.
>>41846033Sounds like Magni then
>>41846033Or someone who recently went back to doing his old stuff.
>>41846090I cant believe Mori Calliope is graduating...
>>41846033>the first homo graduation will probably be someone that will get bored or notice that he has no real future in holostarsFlygon...
>>41845861Yeah, a simple separate account on your pc for Hololive stuff would go a long way.
>>41846079>>41846090well Magni it is, he only wanted the twitch crowd clout anyways
>>41845985Doesn't Nijisanji lose peak and average cumulative daily CCV a lot? I remember VSPO was starting to eat their lunch outside of primetime too.
>>41846044Please actually read my post before you reply
>>41846090Laherpes
>>41846130Use ubuntu for vtubing stuff and arch linux for personal computing.
Unou is casting Harry Potter spells on stream. I wonder if she plans on playing the Hogwarts game.
>>41846033I hate management too, but no way he can continuously get away with disrespecting those incompetent dumbasses, Vesper is not Gura
>>41846057I would prefer that it didn't happen at all if it so easily avoided, someone mentioned Fauna and she said yesterday that she has an empty discord channel in the background in case something would ever happen, most likely because of what happened to her.
>>41846105The decision isn't hers anymore.
>>41846057Rushia was ultimately terminated because of opsec failures. And NijiEN's reputation was damaged. It's usually harmless, especially if the talent isn't a moron, but morons do exist in all companies.
>>41846142did he stream already? I'll go look for his Twitch stats to see if he carried over that holo buff
>>41845861Well the opsec concerns are only one part of it. The other anon brought up other benefits like the talents not having to slum it with crappy hardware till the youtube checks clear.>>41846057That's what we've seen so far but that doesn't mean there couldn't be worse in the future. And you can go a long way with a first name especially if you have a unique one. Most of EN so far has been fully doxxed because of their own incompetent opsec but that doesn't mean steps shouldn't be made for future girls. The company can hire like 250 people for a video game and a dead end male branch I'm sure they can afford rigs for a couple dozen girls.
>>41846160yes. niji cumulative peak ccv is 90k - 100khololive cumulative peak ccv is 110k-120k
>>41846057>Sometimes peoples first names, most of which can easily be found if one is a doxxfag. JAV nipple porn, occasionally. Not high level company secrets.You can still run the OBS setup in a VM and have your discord/browser open in another. Seems pretty simple to separate everything.
>>41846324NijiEN cumulative makes up for it while holoEN cumulative brings it down to be in line :)
>>41846189I still don't buy that it was something that simple
>>41845696the minecratf collab got 30k anon and the aniversary stream las month got 40k
>>41846160Yeah and I'm not denying at all that Hololive is bigger, VSPO doesn't come close though, yesterday was a particularly awful day for Niji JP and they still quadrupled VSPO's peak
All this talk about homos graduating is making me wonder what the actual fallout would be if either Magni or Vesper graduated (the rest of the homos are irrelevant)? I know in the grander scheme of things, outside of a loud minority, most of the holo fanbase will be business as usual but I kinda wonder how management (in all 3 branches) would react to something like that? What would vtubers outside of Holo try to do? And how would the current pro Homo chuubas like Bae Mori and Kronii react?
>>41846284If you're an internet content creator and have a paper trail, you'll be doxxed, and that's who is getting hired for these vtuber jobs. You need to be a ghost from some backwater village in Borneo with 0 experience like Anya to avoid it.
>>41845545>As Tempus growFun fact, despite all the attention and reddit memes Vesper failed to tick even once in the last week, and we're talking about 1k ticks here.
>>41846345Half of them have trouble with vanilla OBS...
>Bettel doing Sims 4 >2k ccvHuh, I thought the first Sims 4 stream was a buff
>>41846401There's only three relevant Tempus homos right now: clown boy, Vesper and Magni. Funny thing is that no one would be surprised if 2/3 of them leave this year and the last one is still on his debut buff period.
>>41846401Unless you are a homolover or a homo yourself nothing will change
>>41846479I imagine he's making the other 3 people no one cares about?
>>41846441maybe some unsubs for not showing up
>>41846401>homobeggars would cope saying it was lack of support>/vt/ would celebrate to the point janitors would delete threads >holopro twitter would get a lot of shitposting ''can we have EN3 now?''>reddit would get closed for over 24h>the girls that aren't pro homo would be forced to say at least one ''it's sad'' but nothing would change for them
>>41846401Mori = pretend to be sad but not really careBae =not careKronii = be sad for a week
>>41846550Nope, doing himself lol
>>41846401Because Bae is strictly professional about the homos, she actually wouldn't care. The only Holostar she really cares about is her oshi.
>>41846401>For hololive fans in general? Not much of a ripple. Tempus just aren't that important. >For management? Sever loss of face. Much more cautious about ever giving males such free reign and favoritism ever again (I think there are indications we're already at this stage). >For the males faction of girls? Probably they'd think twice about ever getting so involved with the dudes again. Vesper was like the main guy for the HoloEN-StarsEN collabs, because he was perceived as a safe unthreatening oji-san, but has now been revealed to be the riskiest one of them all. Some may think I'm being schizo with these thoughts, but if you really think about it, StarsEN has yabbed way sooner than HoloEN ever has and it's only 6 months old. Vesper was the first public suspension in HoloProEN history.
>>41846441
>>41846395That might change with Met and her ability to Z on demand. She's technically a "10k CCV" chuuba which puts her above every Niji that has debuted from 2021 onwards since Salome is all but destined to be a sub 7k shitter from the looks of things.
>>41843361It hasn't aged poorly at all I'd say? I mean, the homo has already streamed 5 times this month and Gura ain't gonna be back till mid February, right?
Late night Watson stream. What is her timeslot even?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiI4VNmgGZE&feature=youtu.be
>>41846374>holoEN cumulative brings it down to be in line Yea! Let's see who brings up or brings down the main branch by just looking at their overall CCV, a total of 10 chuubas (which the top 2 barely even streamed) versus 31 livers KEK.
>>41846653>Vesper was the first public suspension in HoloProEN history.Not only that, the first suspension caused by something that happened within the company.
>>41846401It would hurt the Stars brand in EOP eyes and indirectly affect StarsJPFuck them for affecting StarsJP too
>>41846427Again, there's doxx and then there's "doxx" anon. Both EN and JP have people who we have never seen their face and don't know their real names. No one cares about PLs. But a PC desktop can have more important things and a name can be a big deal. A real name can lead to your family and their address getting doxxed and I hope you understand how that's a big deal and something that should be limited s much as possible.
>>41846673isn't this her old debut timeslot?the one where she catched gura's funel
>>41846673Whatever she feels like.
>>41843814TOTAL NIJIGOD VICTORY
>>41846673her timeslot is anywhere from 1 hour from now to 8 hours from now at any point.
>>41846713Amazing how reddit, twitter, and /mans/ just brushed that under the carpet and pretends it never happened.
>>41846105A-any day now!
>>41846653>he was perceived as a safe unthreatening oji-san, but has now been revealed to be the riskiest one of them allFitting how that's not much different from my perception of Kronii. Her mascot is even a snake.
>>41846664where in the world do any of that imply anything to do with streaming?
>>41845816>>41845973It's the same place but this year it has 1 more hall2022 was "MAKUHARI MESSE INTERNATIONAL EXHIBITION HALL 1-3"This year it's HALL 1-4
the NijiCN box is strong, I think the last time HoloEN got this numbers without Karaoke, Outfit reveal or 3D live was the CouncilIRyS killing the ender dragon collab that got 40k
>>41846673I remember when her time slot was AMT. But I actually don't even remember when AMT was. Some time in the early afternoon PST.
>>41846814yes, the new part is from the red carpet to the left
>>41846673good game but wasted attempt of a win since today is the Pomu thing
>>41846896"attempt of a win" her fans voted for this between Crash, RDR2 and a Wax Asmr stream.
>>41846387>the minecratf collab got 30k anonyou can't just add the total from each pov and then claim they achieved that number
>>41846786I'm kinda looking forward to what he will do next since he seems hellbent on being a yab machine nowadays
>>41846673She should just replay Witcher 3
>>418453721st army is 20,000+ ccv average and above + at least 1 100k anniversary or birthday live in the current and previous year.2nd army is 10k and above ccv average.3rd Army is 5k and above ccv averageThe rest are not reliable enough to count.
>>41846673If no one relevant is streaming, she streams late in the night. If people relevant are streaming, she makes sure to overlap them. Is this true? No, but if sure fucking feels like it sometimes.
What will her numbers be /#/?https://youtu.be/OjBso-5f6us
I wonder just how much bigger is Holo Fest going to be next year
>>41847005 (me)correction: current OR previous year, not and.
Holy shit I forgot blue fag birthday is this weekend. Looks like no Totsu stream.
>>41847005>+ at least 1 100k anniversary or birthday live in the current and previous year.You're making shit up.
>>41847049Drama buff, so a little boosted.
>>41846427gura??? and don't use that 4-year-old doxx, which not even caused by her herself. Since becoming Gura, doxxers got nothing from her despite being the very top EN
>>41846896Thats gonna be like 5-6k.
Anykara stocks finally incline
Why is Risu the fucking face of HoloID anyway?For JP it's Sora, the first ever by a large margin, makes sense.For EN it's Gura, their viral sensation from day 1, makes sense.What's Risu? First to debut in a gen? not very relevant
>>41846918Whats wax ASMR? Like she just gets a candle and plays with it? I don't think that would produce much sound...
>>41846401suzaku graduated in 6 months (5k subs)kira graduated in 17 months (30k subs)kaoru got retired in less than 3 months (40k subs)predictions on when the first tempus graduates?
>>41847206didn't they replace her with Kobo recently
>>41847242Noir Vesper in 3 months
>>41847049what do her usual numbers look like? she's a mid 3views right
>>41847075see correction>>41847057and that is definitely 1st army for /#/.
>>41846882I think AMT is midnight CEST, so Fauna's timeslot.
>>41846712I think an event like this where either Magni or Vesper graduates wouldn't really affect starsJP. Tempus has done a shit job at propping up StarsJp and are looked at as more connected to HoloEn thanks to all the HoloProEn bullshit that Omegay peddled. If anyone is gonna benefit from Tempiss collapsing though, it'd probably be the NijiEn dudes since it basically becomes a JP situation where Male vtubers can only be successful in Nijisanji which means any male wanting to go the vtuber route will have no choice but to go there unless they wanna tough it out as an indie or in a small corpo.
>>41847307nyo
>>41847206She's not, they random swap the 3 ID1s out for events and stuff.
>>41847206
>>41843814if Gura streamed everyday this January (I know that's funny HA-HA), then let's say she averages only 15k during these days, she'll win cripple gold 15 out of 27 days. And some anons here were comparing Vox to her just 6 mos ago
>>41847242they all have a good thing going (even the 3views), give them a couple years unless cover pulls the trigger first
>>41846896Gura played this before and got shit numbers.I wish Miko would play this shit, GTA countryside.
>>41846814ah got it, so youre saying NEXT year they'll have Halls 1-5 then
>>41842861HoloEN basically started EN vtubing, because nobody gave a fuck about EN vtubers before Myth. But now that they’ve opened the door, other options have come in. So you have a situation where basically everyone who’s into vtubers in the west knows who HoloEN are, meaning everyone who watches vtubers but mainly watches corpos other than them specifically decided they didn’t like it.The fact that this place was started as a containment board for HoloEN fans specifically, and that many small corpos (definitely their generals /here/) inclined specifically from HoloEN migrants who didn’t want to watch HoloEN anymore, and there you go.
>>41847337First army is an imported JP meme that was shit from the start and only ever had 6 people in it. Those were chosen by a combination of Mmedian and the highest recent(3-ish months) stream and whatever felt "right" for whoever made it.
>>41847347>Tempus has done a shit job at propping up StarsJpThey've done such a shit job Vesper went to Japan and had 0 (zero) interactions with StarsJP. And to be honest, none of the Tempus fanbase cares. Sperg all you want /hlg/fags but JP holos are still near and dear to EOPs and they love watching EN holos interact with them, and vice versa. Not so with StarsEN/JP apparently.Has fucking Axel, who's there for months now, even done offcolalbs? Did fucking Bae beat both of them to it?
>>41847393What would be the backlash if Cover shutdown the stars and had all of them terminated? Long term? Would the average holofan care that much?
>>41847337Still making shit up.
>>41847182Why are you lying?
>>41847223waxing her pussy hair
Will the suisei live have a 30 min free portion or is it all paywalled? Honestly I don't even know what time it starts but a free portion should beat everything today.
https://twitter.com/ceresfauna/status/1619102756937273345?s=20lol
>>41847073Trying to hide him and Vester falling out.
>>41847460If I was a /stars/fag, I wouldn't want tempiss anywhere near homoJP
>>41846814Hololive expo didn't do all that well and wasn't popular. Hololive did poorly at C100 and even worse at C101 so I think hololive is over extending themselves.
>>41846090Oh no, it's not like Hololive doesn't have a lot of people who are active on their "old stuff", anon.
>>41847512Its over, grimchads won
>>41847460I wonder if the StarsJP dudes would even want to collab with the scary weirdo gaijin who got suspended and is running around yelling at managers and buying boar spears
>>418453721st army is all about having 20k median. Stop being a retard
>>41847512She knows that her ASMR with overlap would be 5k at best
>>41847506https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USmUfG_-Sn8
>>41847512Fauna has changedI'm sorry but she cannot be called the most professional holoEN member anymore
>>41847512Sometimes it feels like Fauna purposefully gives Faunaschizo materialmaybe Fauna IS faunaschizo
>>41846441I'm shocked he didn't lose subs honestly. I unsubbed to him after the shit he pulled.
>>41847512Why is Fauna dodging so much recently
>>41847512I had the feeling she's not gonna stream that much this year. I mean at this point it's branch culture.
>>41847402Gura played Calisto Protocol which was shit. Deadspace Remake actually seems to be good from what everyone says.
>>41847506>free portion should beat everything todayFree portions never performed super amazing. People that paid, don't watch it on youtube.
>>41847591Shien might if he spoke eigo.
>>41847512smart Fauna you need that cripple gold
>>41847402>>41847641 (me)Sorry, I'm a retard low on sleep and coffee.
The problem with homobeggers is that EOPs don't understand they're homobegging half the time. Most of the JP artists/fans understand that fundamentally their oshis do not want to be associated with stars.Even legitimate, long time fans of the EN girls make memes and art of the two groups together, like complete fuckwits. Here's another example of them trying to leech fucking Gura of all people, just in the last week.
>>41847528I don't think any fanbase outside of NijiEN unironically likes Tempus.
if bae is actually a good dancer like everyone claim she is, would you forgive her?
>>41846860That's honestly really fucking bad numbers for full Luxiem anniversary fan content collab anon.
>>41845658The most obvious explanation is still general incompetence, although the rrat peddler in me has a theory that they know a subreddit is still the first place noobs go when they discover an interesting hobby or media franchise. Maybe they’re hoping all the homobegging posts will gaslight new users into thinking Tempus and HoloEN collabing and basically being one is normal and should be promoted as natural, because a subreddit is *obviously* the face of a fanbase.…I mean, I think it’s a retarded plan if they’re really trying to do that. As if they’re *getting* enough new fans from all this to make it even remotely viable. I do think the idea that they’re just incompetent is a way better theory.
>>41846278Tomorrow iirc
>>41847512Fauna has a good track record, I'm willing to give her a day off if she wants to
>>41847182The market is closed for the weekend...
>>41847512Switch it to an actually worthwhile timeslot while you're at it.
>>41847512I think everyone is still in JP
>>41847512Sucks, but at least she is just moving her rest day from tomorrow to today, so no streams are lost.
>>41847713No. I already know Bae is technically the best council member on paper. That's why I'm still disappointed in her streamer.
>>41847182Maybe Riku won't sell after all.
Idowl confirmed. Hope she's even more motivated and happy now.https://twitter.com/nanashimumei_en/status/1619103235691921408
>>41847460This is honestly what baffles me. Say what you will about Gura or Mori, or the rest of En but most of their fans are very aware of HoloJp and are at least passive clipwatchers. I thought Tempus fans would be the same, especially after those initial interactions with StarsJP (I had such high hopes for those bastards during that time too). But then Magni showed why he's a self admitted faggot and Kronii completely lost the plot. I can't believe I'm saying this but it makes me wish one of this fuckers got MeToo'd (Axel probably is the likeliest). I'm pretty sure Omega's retarded ass would drop the whole HomoEn project dead because Trannies tend to be SJW retards too.
>>41847713I like Bae as a person I just think she's kinda dumb. I'll watch her 3D lives and I'm sure I'll really enjoy them, but unless she changes her streaming style and stops being a retard who does shit like leave a collab on her channel to suck off a homo I can't consider her one of my favorites
>>41847690you should've read the comments from the Gura/Vesper meme posted on the subreddit, homobeggars flocked that shit
>>41847825Nah she talked about getting the KU-100 back and wanting to use it for the ASMR. I really doubt she would take that to Japan.
so does Kronii ever visited JP or not? what's the rrat?
>>41847858January has been good for her, she seems to be in a good mood as well with having come to a decision regarding school.
>>41847713It's like asking if a parent would forgive their child for failing the year. It's not about forgiveness.
>>41847858all my money for Mumei being the best dancer for Counilrys
Bros I wasn’t supposed to fall in love, how do I go back to only caring about numbers…..
>>418473371st army is a JP thing and it's all about 20k ccv median.
>>41847931No one knows, outside a 30 minute twitter space she's been mia.
>>41847931>what's the rrat?Too many drug charges.
>>41847871She just isn't entertaining as a streamer. It doesn't mean she's a bad person, it just means that she's fucking doing it wrong and no one around her is telling her that or giving her tips on how to fix things.
>>41847866Myth/Council fags are aware of HoloJP and clip watchers of themTempus fags are clip watchers of HoloEN and not at all aware of JP
>>41847931The rrat is that she's currently there because this was a guerilla week for her but it's just a rrat
I forgot where I saw it, but is idol outfit chosen by the member themselves or management and the artist makes the decision?JP has more members wearing shorts, but EN/ID are even in shorts and skirts.
>>41847931a clip popped on my recommendation about Ina talking about phone calls etc etc, it got Kronii in the thumbnail. I didn't watch it sorry. maybe Ina talked about her?
>>41847512She's taking it easy
>>41847393There's not really much reason to axe them. It might be embarassing that they're doing poorly comparatively but financially they're probably in the green since it costs nothing for cover to have them exist. The only reason to axe them is if they become a brand risk for the real money generators.
>>41848036If it's anything like the old Idol outfits accessories/details are up to the talents.
>>41847690Lots of artists for Gura in particular just see her as funny meme shork and watch clips of her making cute noises and being witty, so they wouldn't understand the full extent of just how much she has avoided anything and everything to do with holostars.
>>41847976Why not enjoy both?
>>41848063>brand riskwhich Vesper is
>>41847713Yeah she's the best hololive dancer along with kiara
>>41847393>they all have a good thing going (even the 3views)Unironically no, they don't. Machina is earning unlivable amounts of money for a western country.inb4>b-but it's not about superchatsLow views+low superchats= you sure as shit ain't pushing merch or sponsorships. It's ogre for this guy.
>>41848001The only two people who could give legitimate advice to Bae are Fauna and <<<possibly>>> Amelia.Debuffson wouldn't do it for obvious reasons, but I'm not sure about Fauna. Maybe she felt it wasn't her place, or maybe she couldn't get through Bae's thick skull.
>>41847976I fucked up and did the same. Don't even care about the numbers anymore
>>41847690>that ratio between "views" and "views"elonchama...
>>41847690>>41848110now wait for the SC from beggars, asking if she already watched/saw these vids and memes. Luckily, she's one of the best when filtering these subtle akasupa baits
>>41848145you're lacking critical information
So given recent events in Jerusalem, I guess we now know why Gundo went.
>>41848172Fauna never would unless she's specifically asked. She's a permanent supporter role.
>>41847713I get bigger doses of dopamine seeing fat polka, Granny Botan or Clumsy Lamy dance than I do with Nene. So no, Bae dancing won’t change my mind, I’m 100% going to enjoy Fauna and Mumei more
>>41847858>Idowl
>>41847759Anon that's not even a rrat, Stars have their own subleddit while HoloEN needs to share theirs with Tempiss for some fucking reason. Same thing with the Holopro Twitter account, they aren't even hiding the homo bias.The real rrats start when you try to understand why the fuck management debuted and is pushing Tempiss so fucking hard, if it's plain sabotage or just some really retarded manager who thought it was a brilliant idea and now is desperately trying to salvage this shit.
>>41847690Beggars are common in EN scene because leeches are common even on fleshstreamers
>>41848191it makes sense. It'd be weid if it was the other way around.
>>41847690lel, that video is peak homofag behaviour>girls do shit>get attention>suddenly male>leech attention while it's there
>>41847976idk if it's cope, but i have a /#/ oshi and content oshi. That's how I dodge number rot desu.
>>41847464Are we including starsJP too? I doubt that would happen since Yagoo loves starsJP. But if it did because of something like IPO shenigans, I'd say short term not much change but long term might have some consequences since you're basically giving up the field to Nijisanji. Yes, it won't matter short term since you kinda are doing that already with how abysmal JP stars are performing but giving that up forever opens you to some wacky shenanigans in the future. I think the best analogy to this that I could think of was when the Denver Nuggets gave up 1/4th of their entire TV revenue in perpetuity to settle with some ABA team that I can't remember right now. Imagine losing a quarter of a billion for every tv deal because some old man in a suit in the 70's thought that TV wasn't ever gonna be a thing
>>41848172Are Fauna and Bae close enough to be honest and forthright with each other? I can see Fauna and Moom being like that and Bae and Moom, but Fauna and Bae seem more like work colleagues than friends
>>41848063Actually, since cover is known to pay a base salary and they have managers that get salaries they could very well be in the red.
>>41848172Fauna for sure would not feel it's her place, and really it should be up to the girls' managers to give them proper advice on how to run a streaming channel. Not that any of them are competent enough for that from everything we hear.
>>41848299It's not even recent, that audio clip of Gura is from November 2020 passpartout. Ancient HoloEN history, from far before the Tempus boys were a retarded twinkle in an idiot's eye
>>41844433
>>41848223Chumbuds are surprisingly restrained when it comes to that kind of thing, unlike saplings who can't help themselves, probably cause of her fans are literally in love with GuraIt helps that she's coming back right around valentine's. I'm sure most chumbies will have more important things to say to her than bring up a homo kek
>>41848119I can’t, as soon as she turns on her stream I don’t care if she flops and gets a sub 10k stream anymore…
>>41848223even chumbuds tell those guys to fuck off as well
>>41848323>Fauna and Bae seem more like work colleagues than friendsCome on now, anon. Faubae is the most frequent Council collab pair.
>>41848377Just numberfag Pekora or Miko, or Faumei if you care for EN at all?
>>41847973Zero chance, she's anti-social and white. Those two things don't lead to building up dance skills.
>>41848402This dude makes that exact post all the time and someone points this out to him each time. It's some sort of schizo angle
>HolostarEN, you don't think it's 3D, do you?>It's just a new 2D visual, right?>I mean, why are we even getting new visuals for a holostar that will not be live?>Irys and Council were on the sticks for over a year.>They are a group of low-lifes who do not understand the original Japanese culture at all, so they are no more.
why is NijiID and NijiIN doomposting more than usual? was something announced?
>>41848374Chumbuds have jumped on homobeggers multiple times now and told them to fuck off. Helps they have a reputation as "le mean toxic fanbase :((("
>>41848374The chumbuds have shitted on Homobeggars really hard in comments before. They also make fun of them and go BASED whenever Gura does a who or “girls only” joke. Remember that Gura herself has said and brought up CGDCT on twitter and streams before.
>>41848364i genuinely do not get their thought process to make a 2ndd version of an animation they did 2 years ago with gura of all members interaction with a homohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b85GQ3B8tCIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8Q26SXWR2c
>>41847464It would ruin Cover if they ever graduated a talent for failure to acquire numbers. They have managed to avoid coming across as a black company by and large, which is why they survived Coco and Rushia, and even Sana’s was clear she didn’t give a fuck so it wasn’t on Cover wanting her to hit X numbers or else. Graduation of an entire branch like that would mean no one ever trusts Cover again.
>>41848519More truth from the prophet.
>>41842861sooo true sis!
>>41847866There aren’t as many ‘SJWs’ among male vtuber fans as you think. Certainly not the type that would give a shit if one of them got caught sexually harassing or raping one of the girls. If they were true ‘SJWs’ they would view ‘cishet males’ as invaders in a woman-dominated hobby.
>>41848519>>They are a group of low-lifes who do not understand the original Japanese culture at all, so they are no more.is he talking about Tempiss or HoloEN management
>>41848553Maybe they're actually an ex-HoloEN fan, who still clings to making holoEN oc because it gets views, but has an agenda now? I seem to recall that there are surprisingly many such cases
>>41848110I disagree Gura has maybe less than 20 fanarts with stars and her chat gatekeeps homos mentions a lot, the pre chat when she streamed right after the tempus debut was beautiful, when you see a guy like this is just someone that lacks a lot of self-awareness or just wants the likes for having Gura in the meme
>>41847973Bro??? Mumei's been dooming about her dancing for months lol. You'd have a better bet if you put all your money on her being the worst dancer lol
>>41848522They didn't get the hint that they should graduate by themselves after getting support cut so they're finally bringing down the axe on the ex-branch
>>41847464HoloEN dying. HoloJP would be still inclining tho
>>41848145True. Let's be real, aside from Vesper, every wave 2 should consider graduating for the coming months, even the 3 remaining wave 1 should too after their anniversary. Barely 70k SC, maybe around 80k if you count members streams, let's say they have ~1-2k members, ~7m total views for ad revenues is a penny, minimal merch and sponsored stream. Now insert Cover's 50/50 cut, wave 2 is basically dead. Wave 1 can barely survive too
>>41842861did you just cooy paste this and change it from NijiEN to HoloEN? I swear I saw this earlier
>>41848017Wasn't there a leak about the blue homo being on a Gura discord group?It should have been clear by now that being fans of StarsJP wasn't even a remote requirement. I remember how people speculated that the auditions took a lot of time since they had to find singers and talented people that were fans of the Stars.
>>41847858Will Kronii tweet about the Idol Costume? I wanna see the replies of that.
>>41848526Which is probably why beggars are nonstop seething at Gura in the catalog, they are so fucking desperate they have make fake Twitter screenshots of Gura following or interacting with Tempiss.
>>41847460>HoloEN and StarsEN are being marketed together rather than StarsEN and StarsJPAnd Cover wonders why their EN branch is dying. This move basically reinforces the idea that everyone who isn’t in JP isn’t *really* part of Hololive except when being used as a marketing thing.None of the homobeggars who think this is good actually give a shit about Hololive. Which means they won’t stick around if other options for male collabs draw them away.
>>41848525>Helps they have a reputation as "le mean toxic fanbase :((("A reputation to strive for. Oderint dum metuant.
Niji sadposting on twitter. Againhttps://twitter.com/PomuRainpuff/status/1619004755103326211
>>41848626probably both
>>41848620wish someone did desu
>>41848632Could be a vshojofag
>>41848626Do decisions like this even come from EN? Big decisions come from the main JP management, like debuts and 3d. EN management seems like they just shill and maybe give advice.
>>41848553Typical homobeggar.
>>41848696its not even beggars. its legit Holoantis with the males as ammo
>>41848716I saw that and looked at the catalog if there's any rrat, but there's none. Looking at the comments by other members though, it looks nothing serious
>>41848757nah, they're obnoxious for other reasons
>>41848716Why is she sadposting when her 3d debut is in two hours?
>>41848846it's Pomu
I legitimately don't understand the real story behind Tempus1/2.So it goes like this:They had 6 people who were MUST HAVES but can't debut a 6 person gen.So they split it in two, with half a year difference.New Tempus dudes are split between "Elysians" (Bettel,Flayon) who were the original 2 and Chinkians(Bird,Samurai) who are the new guys the Elysians were sent to pick up (a wink wink nudge to those other two being OGs from the first audition).In what fucking world was Flayon Machina a shoe in that he basically derailed the entire generation standards for Holopro, instead of just dumping him and debuting a 5 person gen with Clown?
>>41848716Bro I SWEAR TO GOD if that Risotto b2 roommate shit ends up being legit him and he gets fired I'll fucking cry laughing
>>41848553And it's a subtle shill too, he only screened the fag right in the end, even his thumbnail is a solo Gura
>>41848620The fuck you are talking about?
>>41848870Is Nijis not allowed to have active RM? I can never remember how their rules are.
>>41848870what?
>>41848870qrd
>>41848868oh it's the "they accidentaly hired 6 people" rrat
>>41848716another graduation no doubt
>>41848620Oh They're SJW's alright. Don't be fooled, anon. They view idol culture as "TOXIC" and LE BAd. They consider the homos as the oppressed party and the only reason why all the girls aren't acting like whores around them is because of unicorns/incels. SJWs don't care about actual women empowerment, they care about THEIR empowerment.
>>41848904No RM activities allowed for at least the first year, I think
>>41848870are nijis not allowed to have rm activities or something
>>41848916>>41848907Someone posted a screenshot of someone with his RM name saying they would release a new Cover soon on B2
>>41848907>>41848916A pic posted a few threads back of his RM announcing a new song or something on B2?It might be deleted but just look up key words
>>41848916Risotto is active on his BILIBILI roomate account.
>>41848689He leaked his personal discord and he was in a generic vtuber server that used Gura as the icon. But it wasn't a Gura specific served
>>41848526I think this is the very first time Gura said something about cgdcthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drLYMfoplK8&t=11122s
>>41848978is his RM even big in B2?
>>41848716someone didn't re-sign, EN Luna soon
>>41848935There’s different kinds of ‘SJWs’. There’s the hardcore ones that are more inclined to unironically hate men, particularly white men, and then there is just normies attempting to put themselves a step above those they perceive ‘inferior’. I say this as a scumbag leftwinger: these folks are lazier activists than the leftwing slacktavists that bitch on twitter about transgressions and microagressions and whatever shit they learned from their Philosophy 101 class at clown college.
>>41849029in that sense, Luxiem really did kill HoloEN since the retarded HoloEN management got forced to produce Tempus because of them KEK
>>41849057Not sure but here it is. Niji contracts specifically state that no rm activities for 1 year
>>41848716Vesper avoids the Mori curse by deflecting the graduation to a Niji.
>>41849097Yugo will be the first EN luna, during her first RM stream, holoEN twitter released their requirement vid for fags
Huh, seems like Elira's 3D was the only one out of the three that anyone gave a shit about in this board.Tell me, why do you think that is?>Just because she was the first>Because people only cared about it as a way to shit on HololiveWhatever the case, they dropped the narrative after seeing how shitty the stream was.
>>41849159They killed English vtubing as a whole. Now both of the major companies are obsessed with hiring more males, despite only making a small portion of the indie/small corpo market. Not to mention the small corpos faltering giving potential girls limited places to join now that the doors have seemingly been closed for them.
>>41848716Pomu tweeted about it and the rest just commented, Pomu didn't re-sign the contract huh? She got bamboozled by Kiara
>>41849029And this was at the very peak of Tempiss homobegging
>>41849029Man i love Gura...
>>41849029https://files.catbox.moe/68l7tw.mp3
>>41849299Finana's 3D debut was about everyone but Finana
>>41849316Pomu for EN3?
>>41849299Because she have the biggest tits of the 3
>>41849299It was supposed to Mog Mori’s 79k. Also IRyS 92k out of nowhere really break then. Now they have to wait for Luxiem and hope they do it in JP(cn) times
>>41849341I'll forever be thankful that Gura is the face of EN vtubing instead of someone retarded like Mori.
>>41849299Pomu has 2k waiting right now. That's much better than Finana.
>>41849299She's the least hated NijiEN in a Holoboard.
>>41849448Imagine if it was Vox. I’d take Mori every time over that.
>>41849455beating Finana for literally anyone's 3d should be a given, anon.
>>41849161isnt this a big yab then? yugo 2.0?
>>41849299Cause it was going up against IRyS which made for prime bait against 90% of this board's population.
>>41848716ex-NijiID news got to them apparentlyThose two branches were always close
>>41849489Vox is unfortunately the face of EN male vtubers hence why were in this current shitshow of a timeline.
>>41849299It was the first and got shilled by NijiJP too, sisters really hyped that thing and thought it was going to get massive numbers. Instead it got mogged by the fucking ID1 3Ds, which also spawned the Moonaschizo.
>>41849518>>41849161kind of smart to be honest, he can't break the contract, so he'll just commit a cardinal sin to be Yugo'd
>>41849298>HoloEN opened the market for EN vtubing >nijiEN opened the market to being e-whores with an anime avatar
>>41849579I doubt many ‘normies’ know who the fuck he is. But most of the normies fucked off after covid lockdowns and were fortunate enough to not witness the rise of english male vtubers.
>>41848716Vagueposting on Twitter a few hours ahead of bad news is so unprofessional, I don't know why their management hasn't told them to knock it off
>>41849029Hard to believe that she's part of the same branch as the Trinity of Bitches.
>>41849592nah, I'd blame the latter on vshojo
>>41849579I feel like Vesper is slowly replacing Vox in mindshare for western vtubing though.
If Myth 3d showcases happen in JP primetime we might get at least 2 of them with 100k+, since they do have JP mindchair, even more than HoloID, and stopping the entire box for them was amazing for ID's views (unlike stars lmao).If they do it in NA primetime, Gura will be lucky to get 80k.
>>41849552don't kid yourselfthe only one that is close with them is Mika and that is because that whore leeches from luxiem all the timehope that slimy ass shitskin whore gets raped by a group of shitskin kids
>>41849592NijiEN filled the EN vtubing fandom with bunch of hyper-sexual furries.
>>41849448also, What's Mori's RM cooking nowadays? what's with that cryptic tweet she made? ThisSALCEURNETGLNBCIHROPANFEKWOY20A3M2
>>41849552>ex-NijiID news got to them apparently???
>>41849747That's only possible for Gura. Mori already showed she's sub 80k and the rest will definitely the same.
>>41849747>If Myth 3d showcases happen in JP primetime we might get at least 2 of them with 100kSadly no. They will do it NA prime time, like Gura's 3D
>>41848716So uhhh how will this affect their stock numbers on monday if someone gets yugo'd over the weekend?
>>41849767Chink Luxiem sisters are truly something else huh?
>>41849850If they actually do it live from Japan it's pretty likely to be during JP hours. The wage 3d studio techs don't like to stay late.
>>41849791I imagine she's doing another EP this year. She dropped a new single a few weeks ago from what I recall.
>>41849823NijiID was tweeting "We're not okay" the entirety of last week
>>41849907
>>41849905>stay lateanon? gura's 3D was streamed around 10am JP time
>>41849907Where's the "make Koreans mad" buff for Ver?
>>41849850>They will do it NA prime time, like Gura's 3DIf they do it from an actual live studio, then no, it's gonna be in JP times.But it's gonna be real grim then if they do it in NA times since they might actually fail to beat HoloID and shitposters will not understand the whole "they literally stopped all JP streams for them" shit.
IRC didn't Elira had bigger waiting room this far back compare to Pomu
>>41849907DAMN Homos are really struggling
>>41849747depends how late on En time. Remember that Gura`s prime time is only 3 hours away from Cocos old meme reviews, so japs could come watch in the late morning if given enough promo and a week warning for the weekend.
>>41849981>the face of VTA beaten by Roboco less than 10 days after she debutedGrim
>>41849981This Ohayama chick is unironically based. She vacums up western games and that's the shit that got me into vtubers. Seein nip women react to western shit is damn delectable, yes I have watched every single Stickmin stream.
>>41849791Rebrand or something. New design? Live2d? New name? (almost certainly not that one)
>>41849981Why are they botting one of the most irrelevant Nijis?
>>41850015NA primetime is like 10 am JST. It would make zero sense for them to not do them during the EN branch's main market biggest hours.
>>41849981Anyone know if you can isolate the girls rather than as a whole?
>>41850032Yes, I guess Pomu will get around 45-50k
>>41850131KFPiss will take her over 50k
>>41850094Chinman collab
>>41847464It would be a PR disaster not because people care about Stars but because their image is built on the idea that they care about their talents over money. It’s why they can get so little comparative backlash for Rushia or Cocos graduation but it means they have to mantain that image.
>>41850163all the 3k*factor of them?
>>41850163>>41850227stop talking with yourself
>>41849699>the Trinity of BitchesI like that
>>41849747Gura and Ina will be over 100k (not like amazing over 100k it will a modest 100k) , Ame/Mori 80k and Kiara 70k-60k
>>41849747Easy 200k with gura.
>>41849907>Another homo streams >Shota goes back to 3view
>>41850274>InaAnon... Ina was always high floor, low ceiling type.
>>41850257I got it from the masterpiece Resident Evil: The Final Chapter.
>>41848469White are the best dancers niggerWe created all the popular dancing styles from waltz to salsa
>>41850274Mori already did hers kinda, she even did the call-in gimmicks and stuff
I wonder if this MGS 3D skit content that Pomu will do for her 3D debut will be buff because so it being shown that 3D skits are a huge debuff among Niji En tourist and the only numbers buff content is Music/Singing related content
>>41847931Nobody knows, if she is she’s keeping up that opsec
I just realized that Bae is overlapping Pomu.
>>41850408mgs is the worst thing that happenned to pomu after the nijihomos
NijiEN and NijiJP might as well not have zero connections as far as chat is concerned, but we knew that already. Whereas holoEN and holoJP are connected
I clicked into /nijien/ for a few minutes to see if they have any idea of what the fuck Pomu is posting about, and someone there noticed that HolostarsEN is advertising on NijiEN streams
>>41850456Yes and the entirety of febaery will eventually overlap gura when she returns. Her numbers are real GRIM right now
>>41850015>It would make zero sense for them to not do them during the EN branch's main market biggest hours.Well, they want as many eyes on it and nips will do it on THEIR time. I believe. NA hours will be grim.
>>41849905NA primetime is morning for JP no?
>>41850528when was the last time holoEN girls got ads
>>41848519Please stop posting Twitter screenshots of this literal fucking who.
>>41849448Gura who? is that an indie?
>>41850553Never
>>41850528is this the first time holoEN used ads? jesas omega the desperation is showing
>>41850553Pretty sure never, but might be wrong. They are fucking desperate to make the boys succeed.
>>41850477What the fuck. Why are NijiENgirls connected to Tempus? Are those the disgusting Unityfags.
>>41850553>advertising holoEN girlslmao, unless they pay the ius primae noctis, those whores won't get any kind of advertisement
>>41850528that's disgusting, it had to be the stars
>>41850528The girls are paying for these with the profit they bring.
>>41850528So will this ad artificially juice the numbers of that Tempus meme animation, like NijiEN used to do for original songs?
>>41850528>the video is fucking AD BOOSTEDoh dear, no wonder that shit had so many viewsand with "ad boosted videos" we complete the Nijisanjification:-favoritism towards the guys (Fauna has to fucking beg management to put anything on their Hololive channel)-ad boosting
>>41850528Damn this is pathetic. I remember how it was pointed out several days ago how the VOD views for that video were low as fuck even.
>>41850528That reminds me an anon here mentioned he got an ad for the tempus vid but no one believed him. Guess he was right.
>>41850663Yes
>>41850361Just because you create something doesn't mean you're the best. Basketball wasn't created by niggers but the NBA is sure full of them.
>>41850463Nope, stay salty
Chat overlap between first army, tempiss and Gura for comparison
>>41850673ENSURING COMPLETE NIJISANJIFICATION
>>41850663It already did. 440k in 5 days? I knew something was weird about those numbers, I thought it was just because tripl3 did the animation.These sharts don't have a single 440k VOD on any of their channels.
>>41850528puaj, makes me wanna vomit
>>41850704right, I remember him
>>41843361>the second best part about Gura revealing what she's up to so farwhat second part?
>>41850711Incredible, I wonder if they'll shovel money into the fire until it hits 1 mil Great success, Tanigo-san, look at these view counts on their animation!
>>41850274Ina has literally always had the second lowest Myth event ceiling. Shit like this is about the mindchairs and every outfit reveal has been Gura>Mori>Ame>Ina>Kiara
>>41850528sasuga
>>41850730I don't understand at all
>>41850715All dancing competitions are won by whites
>>41850528This and many other shit related to Tempiss reeks of absolute desperation. Despite sisters always trying their best to cope by saying that the guys were a huge success and Cover expected StarsJP numbers from them.
>>41850711Actually disgusting stuff.
>>41850797>Shit like this is about the mindchairs and every outfit reveal has been Gura>Mori>Ame>Ina>KiaraYou're running on 1 year old data. Ina leveled up in mindchair now, both in japan and english. It's gonna be Gura>Mori>Ina>Ame>Kiara for sure this time.
>>41850711can't wait for the holopro tweet ''Yagoo's dream just reached 1 million views THANKS FOR YOUR SUPPORT''
>>41849161>Niji contracts specifically state that no rm activities for 1 yearwhere
>>41850528are you guys having fun
>>41850814The brighter the line and closer they are the more overlap they have.
>>41850373That wasn’t her 3D showcase. Cover doesn’t consider it to be, Mori doesn’t consider it to be. Hell I wouldn’t be surprised if it only happened thanks to having the UMG deal to announce.
>>41850711Completely legitimate 100% real public demand!
>>41850528Holy shit management really is desperate to make them a success. Not even Tempus 1 got ads iirc.
>>41850528People on this thread have severe numberrot and forget that 100 viewers is a top 1% streamer and 700 viewers ought to break even, but first HoloProEN ads are actually seriously grim.
>>41850909nah, but>THANKS TO ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT>500K VIEWS ON THIS SMALL TEMPUS ANIMATION
>>41850528ackshually it's the biggest overlap, right?
>>41850711MASSIVE SUCCESS! RELEASE MORE MALES
>>41850711>>41850741Oh wow I hadn't noticed the bump in views I remember when somebody posted the measly 80k views a day after it was uploaded and suddenly this huge jump? No fucking wonder. Makes their shitty CCV even more baffling especially with some of them already being 3 views unless raided.
>>41850553Do you Count CounterSide paying for ads for the Myth collab? If not then never.
>>41850528bro come the fuck on
>>41850711Your voice has been heardYour wish has been granted
>>41849161What is this website by the way?
>>41850948Tempus 2 got better models than Tempus1. Did they really go all in after seeing Tempus 1 beats StarsJP numbers?
>>41850944Numbers don't lie anon. except when they do
>>41851070B2
Forget ads, when was the last time HoloEN reminded everyone with a tweet that HololiveEN girls auditions are still open??They did that with Tempus, also the Youtube channel has a whole video for it
>>41844625>First ArmyPekora, Miko, Marine, Suisei>Second ArmyAqua, Subaru, Korone>Grunt ReservesEverybody Else
>>41851070B2, bilibili, chinese streaming site
>>41842582Recent clip numbers>>41814045>>41814074>>41814102>>41814135>>41814167
>>41842749it was a nice golden age while it lasted
>>41850528i'm actually disgusted
How would you all feel if Cover started ad boosting all their future JP,EN and ID gens
>>41850929I'm not sure...
>>41845428I did go take a look.Damn, the fire hasn't died inside chumbuds.
>>41851122>One Woman ArmyButton
>>41847464Cover would never fire the homos. What they'd do is put them in the shame room until they got the message and quit.
>>41851116December 2021
>>41851116I hate Tempus as much as the next guy but if you think they need more publicity to attract 2views to audition to HoloEN, you must be insane.
>>41851116they tweeted that reminder right before tempus2 debut didn't they?
list of the dead/dying indies/small corpos>Castella Inomori https://twitter.com/CastellaInomori>Melonbread https://twitter.com/melonbread_69>Raina Chiwawa https://twitter.com/RaniaChiwawa>Selkie https://twitter.com/SelkieVT>Virion Kisei https://twitter.com/virionkisei >Sellena https://twitter.com/anelles_ >MoonJelly https://twitter.com/moonjelly0>Suika Emi https://twitter.com/suikaemi>Usami https://twitter.com/usami_vt>RoaFen https://twitter.com/FenThePixie>TsukimiLune https://twitter.com/TsukimiLune >Etherna Celine https://twitter.com/ethernaceline>Etherna Helen https://twitter.com/EthernaHelen>Makoto & Akira Misaki https://twitter.com/ggnlive_withyou>Orla Gan Ceann https://twitter.com/orlaganceannplaces to end up for these streamers include>NijiEN Gamers >HoloEN3 >Phase Invaders/Phase Connect third gen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDUfwFZEICsOther notesTsunderia Shuts down https://twitter.com/tsunderia_us/status/1618443736622501888
Holobronies this is your mindset
>>41850886Imagine putting the most talented performers last.
>>41851164If they actually did it for all of them instead for just tempiss and tempoop, then whatever. Ads are shit, but it'd fall under the "it's a corpo" umbrella, though the views from those videos would be suspect.
>>41851164as long as its being done fairly and have rules around it, its fine
>>41851231>Ame
>Fauna STILL hasn't posted about the idol outfits Stupid whore doesn't deserve it. Everyone else is excited about it but her.
>>41850942C-O-P-E
Aren't we super overdue for gen 7? Wasn't Holox november 2021? What the fuck is going on, if they don't debut soon we're not gonna get kino Holofes watchalong streams
>>41850909Still no tweet about Let Me Stay Here reaching 1M?
>>41850528holyshit, it's the opposite of nijification. its TEMPUSSYFICATION
>>41851219yes, which makes me think Tempus 3 is actually closer
>>41851301you have kobo
>>41849161Strange how noone posted this in the catalog yet
>>41851329who?
>>41850528Another waste of money that the girls earnt
>>41851275she's having a menhera moment let her do her thing
>>41851215anon, its not about publicity, its about informing people that girls are not chosen yet so you can still apply
>>41851301You have Achan and Nodoka.
>>41851328>announced right at their 1 year anniversary in Julyi somehow wish for that just to see the shitstorm
>>41851230the girl on the left is what people actually want to see like EN3, the girl on the right is holostars thinking they are some hot shit just because they get more numbers than the average JP stars ( and that's not a hard challenge)
Suisei already trending 9 hours before the sololive
>>41850528Don't forget to donate to you oshi for Valetine's day anons!
>>41851219
>>41851328Cover is so deep in Tempiipoo sunk cost fallacy that I believe that.
>>41851385I guess... Gotta hope lots of holos do post-event watchalongs too.Maybe Oga will do one again, I'm desperate enough for watchalongs that I'll take that again.
>>41851377It's an open audition anon. They aren't gonna reject you cause its filled, they just place you in training mode.
>>41851357How is it a menhera moment?
>>41851419>ad money for tempus
>>41847713no it's not about the dancing, she needs to be cuteiroha has a much better impression after becoming 3D because her dances and motions are cute
What's the Evo Moment 37 of /#/?
>>41851465Both are not as cute and as talented as Kiara sadly
>>41851328>which makes me think Tempus 3 is actually closerdelusional.it'll be TempusID
>>41851453you are an idiot or a nijifag thinking holo does shit like VTA.Which girl wants to be in training mode for over a Year??
>>4185148410-2
>>41851416Gold today? I feel like more tourist will show up
>>41851302No, and it's never gonna happen.
>>41851301>super overdueNot really, but if they announce them for holofes it would be around the same time-gap there was between JP5 and JP6.
>>41847713Being able to dance is cool and all but I don't give a fuck about her dancing if I don't give a fuck about her. It's been over a year and I've given her chance after chance and I just can't give a shit. Maybe it's a generational gap but I do not find her likeable at all.
>page 11oh shit*ahem*bots
>>41849161Is that even an official channel?
>>41851452I would consider "( ω ) Brain not working too well today aaaa I think I need to rest a bit, " to be a menhera momentI mean any time you mention your brain you're already saying your mentally not up for it
>>41850528So Yagoo’s dream was to become featured on a YouTube ad for Tempus
>>41851428think about it, why would you debut Tempus with 8 boys out of which 6 are one location and only 2 from the other if you are not planning to add more to that lore
>>41851590No just ad-boosted
>>41851425>december>tempus 2 channels were created back in october haha that's just coincidence, r-right?
>>41851231Are you retarded? This is the numbers thread. Kiara is consistently the worst performer in numbers. She's definitely talented in not getting them.
>>41851328Goddammit if it happens people will have an actual reason to get mad
>>41851301JP have the advantage of 30+ other girls to hold down the fort, but yeah an announcement during HoloExpo/fes seems appropriate.
>>41851544If the rrat is true, the two Tempus2 was with the original Tempus. That's almost a year of waiting for a shit branch. Imagine if it is for a premium branch like HoloEN.
>>41851673120k ccv last year retard
>>41851572The problem there is when JP6 waited that long they already had 31 members in one time zone, while EN has 10 members in 3 time zones
>>41851612Anon, that's not a menhera moment, that's just her realizing she's not 100% in the right headspace and taking today off instead of tomorrow like it was on her schedule. "Brain not working too well" could be anything from tiredness to headaches to some actual mental health issues but she has shown no sign of having the latter.
https://youtu.be/OjBso-5f6ushttps://youtu.be/OjBso-5f6ushttps://youtu.be/OjBso-5f6us
>>41850373Biggest difference from an actual 3D showcase is that she doesn't have her own stages.She's just sitting in the default Hololive office map here.
>>41844447Watame. She doesn't so as much as those two, but she'll basically always be third in hours on top of all her music.
>>41851428At this point I even wonder if these fags are even making a profit. Considering their pitiful viewership and SCs I don't know if Cover is making back all the money they spent on rigging, models, managers and these fucking animations and shilling.
>>41851328I don’t know what possibility is worse: EN3 not yet recruited while management gets ready to release Tempus 3, or having EN3 already recruited and making then wait months for a bunch of shitter males that’ll be lucky to hit 50k subscribers. Squandering profit from both the girls and the branch. Either option is an egregious act of negligence on EN management’s part.
>>41851681they were not. They got selected in October and that's when Tempus 1 got to know about them
>>41844447Kiara she is still the best holoEN hire.
>>41851758Management told her to not speak about itSays she's sorry about what happened during the donothon
>>41851758Whats her deal? Why you guys posting her?