/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Did they terminate more people?

How do you think I'm going to get along
Without you when you're gone
You took me for everything that I had
And kicked me out on my own
Are you happy are you satisfied?
How long can you stand the heat
Out of the doorway the bullets rip
To the sound of the beat look out

You have been saying this for years and they are still going
>b-but they fired their top 3 talents
Miu and Lia are Wactor, the rest are just cannon fodder

>>41731068
>Tsunderia will probably die before the likes of WACTOR, MyHoloTV and Amberglow
Would've been completely unthinkable a year ago, wild

>>41731135
No one cares about them. If they fire the spanish speaking ones they're dead.

>>41731455
lmao cope harder

>>41730930
Three of them on "forced vacation" (including the two most popular girls by far) and their rm's literally asking /wactor/ for help

>>41731289
I mean PPP theoretically still has tsundream and the mythical gen 4 if the talents don't jump ship this weekend like is expected and they somehow survive the law suit

>>41731795(Me)
pfffffft
https://twitter.com/tsunderia_us/status/1618443736622501888

Honestly I'm worried for the future of small corpo.
Seems like many of them invested expecting big returns but their market still remains quite small, growth is very slow and some sort of reached a stagnating point.
We're already past the vtuber boom, if tsunderia and wactor die how many small corpos will we have left? How long until we run out of them? There are no new corpos taking their place.
The only recent new small corpo I can think of is idol. Glad those are doing well.

>>41731289
Yep, they're dead now.

>>41731770
anon no one is asking for help even if they really graduate they are not going to ask you for help get over it.

>>41732769
Most of the ones that are flopping kinda deserve it, they are black companies

>>41732769
I mean PPP was notoriously pretty shit at his job though, it's not like the business failed because they weren't earning enough money.

>>41732930
Either that or they're shitposting with their personal accounts, but I saw it with my own eyes.

did you rike it?

>>41733115
Saying things like Im feeling sad and so on is not asking for help, asking for help would be what laila did.

>>41733575
It's not that shit. They literally said "HELP" and replied to anons on their rms. It was weird but it's fucking true.

>>41731068
>12min before the post

>>41732769
There is literally 0 reason to join a small corpo nowadays. You don't get clout, you get a minimal boost in ccv and they take a large chunk of your earnings. Better to just brave it out as an indie.

>>41730374
Please someone kill WACTOR already

>>41737828
Small corpos guarantee a roughly 100ccv, creative direction, a steady pay in many cases, management and technical support, a pre-built social network of talents and sometimes production support for music and other projects.
Some small corpo like Phase Connect and idol have the potential for 300ccv.
Basically if you are an indie who has her shit figured out, with technical and financial resources, a social circle and over 300ccv you might not really see any benefit in joining a small corpo.
But if you don't have some of those you could see a benefit.
I think perhaps hiring for small corpos might get more complicated.
Gone are the days when talented and successful indies would quit to join small corpo.
Small corpo will have to settle down for far less successful girls.
And to be fair there are a lot of very talented yet still unsuccessful girls out there but success acted as a sort of filtered that raised the bar for potential candidates.
The pool of options is now going to be much worse overall so filtering will be harder.

>>41737828
I don't think you understand the massive difference there is between having an audience of 50-200 viewers and being a literal 0-1 view like tens of thousands of other floptubers

>>41738145
I have been watching FLaVR a lot lately. Most of them stream between 16-30 CCV.
The chat is active and there is a lot of streamer-chat interaction. It feels like a real stream but the numbers are very low.
Streaming with no people is not even streaming tho, there'd be no chat, no streamer interaction, the streamer would just be streaming to a void.
I don't know when exactly a stream goes from silence to something that resembles a real stream.
I think some of them would trade their 20ccv for a 100ccv small corpo job if they could but I can't really speak for them.

>>41739619
FLaVR gets boosted from it being a meme org, most people who just debut as an indie on their own from square one get literally 0 views. I'm subbed to a few chuubas I just happened to stumble across by manually searching low view counts who have genuine talent for singing or art and their streams cap out at like 3-5 views on a really good day.

>>41730374
Never heard of them

>>41737992
They're already dead.

>>41743922
Not enough, I want a public announcement of them shutting down like Tsunderia did. I can't believe an actual black company is still going while the one who had management issues shut down before this thing

>>41744333
Just goes to show that evil beats out incompetence every time

>>41731455
Lia's the only reason I'm even spending money on Wactor, faggot.

>>41744333
They already did that.

>>41744333
Tsunderia's ex-manager is apparently getting into a legal dispute with them, they're black too

>>41731770
>their rm's literally asking /wactor/ for help
sources or didn't happened

>>41746472
Look it up.

>>41747784
No, give me a link.

>>41733983
Source

>>41746180
something like not living up to their end of the contract? must be recent since she didn't do anything until now

>>41752921
Current rrat is that it's on behalf of one of the talents, most likely either Purin (who left a few days before the shutdown and is particularly close with Urara) or Lisa (who mentioned the company overworking her in her farewell post and was apparently already planning on leaving regardless of the shutdown because of this)

>>41731770
>including the two most popular girls by far
Who, Luna and Hime?

>>41753150
Misora and Luna, the 3rd one being Neon.
That anon only mentioned the ES girls, but 2 CN girls are also missing, Yue and Lea.