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Would a black vtuber sell and be as popular as the other ones, lads?

>> No.4156390

A tanned vtuber would do ok, but not a black one.

>> No.4156458

>>4156336
People watch vtubers to escape having to deal with black people.

>> No.4156485

>>4156390
>a tanned vtuber would do OK
It's still a debuff. Look at hololive gen 3. All the members are above 1 million subscribers, except Flare who's currently at 630k.

>> No.4156518

>>4156485
ibrahim is one of niji's top earners

>> No.4156554

Probably not. I'm pretty sure the vtuber audience is like the anime audience where the core is lonely conservative racist men while the casual audience is angry white liberals. A Black vtuber would likely get a lot of drama that wouldn't necessarily transfer into consistent viewership.

>> No.4156560

>>4156485
flare also has a massively disproportionate viewership to earnings ratio relative to other holos

>> No.4156842 [DELETED] 

>>4156336
Blacks have big ass nigga lips and shit unaesthetic nose also black females dont grow long hair, and then the color brown well theyre legit not pleasant to look at

>> No.4156869

>>4156485
But Flare makes bank compared to most holo's, her fanbase are really hardcore. I think she didn't grow as much since her content at the time was very "Japanese" heavy.

>> No.4156920

A dark skinned model or a black vtuber? These are different things. The former would be more successful than the latter. Japs hate black people and americans are a cointoss. Someone like Trinity would be a more acceptable generally as she is basically fetish bait.

>> No.4156929

>>4156554
I mean its not the race itself, its that theyre literally stupid and too different, well in fact its the race but people just call pointing THIS out being racicst "yeah das racist bro you cant say that" or whatever

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>>4156336
I want one just to prove a point that a black vtuber would do terrible in numbers

>> No.4156989

>>4156554
>ur wacist mate
>whites whites whites
damn white people are white right

>> No.4157028 [DELETED] 

>>4156336
The majority of vtuber fans hate black people so no.

>> No.4157054

No. They're not cool.

>> No.4157076

>>4156554
>lonely conservative racist men while the casual audience is angry white liberals
Both are horribly racist for different reasons and need to hang if you ask me. But I'd talk/converse with someone that is open about it than the fucker that refuses to admit it or is extremely unaware of their own bullshit.

Back on topic. I'd say maybe (likely no). Especially no if they're ghetto.

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4157081

Why yes, I am a fan of this bear. Get in on bearcoin before it hits the moon, anons.
https://twitter.com/Charlottebearch?s=20

>> No.4157154

>>4157028
i know right, black people have no reason to be hated, just like other races except the whites!!!

>> No.4157250

https://youtu.be/F2R6VmgRNh0
https://youtu.be/YB7OpdkGewE
Thoughts?

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>>4156336
Depends on the self awareness involved
Let's say you get someone like Woolie. Yeah, I'd watch that vtuber. The problem is that black people like Woolie are a 1/1000 occurrence originating from a series of extremely strange life circumstances. Someone like Woolie would never draw attention to his race. Most people who talk with him barely even know he's black until they actually meet him.

On the flipside, you could also get a Tariq Nasheed who would not be able to shut up about his race. It would be front and center of every single thing he does. Every game he plays, every stream he does, it would be the "Premier Black Experience" and would immediately filter a chunk of his audience.

Are either of those a bad thing? No, but I can say for certain the Woolie vtuber would be far more popular than the Tariq vtuber simply because of the audence involved.

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>>4157250
I think about how much I hate niggers

>> No.4157474

>>4156336
depends, what sort of black girl? There are like 8 different types in the US alone

>> No.4157478

>>4157081
Didn't expect to see charlotte posted yeah she's great

>> No.4157481

>>4156336
never

>> No.4157486

>>4157423
>Woolie
>Black

>> No.4157504

>>4157423
Tariq Nasheed is also funny though. He goes all the way around and becomes entertaining in his ridiculousness. I'd definitely watch a Tariq vtuber.

>> No.4157626

Yes, she just has to appeal to the black weeb audience who watches Dragon Ball Super and plays fighting games all day.

>> No.4157702

>>4156336
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9h02j35Zg0Q

>> No.4157803

>>4156336
Sorry but Bigman Tyrone already has that market cornered.

>> No.4157815

>>4157702
>"Oh this avatar looks really good
>hears voice
>"Ok..."
>close tab

>> No.4157842

>>4157504
>watching a vtuber banning every other person chatting for being a "suspected white supremacist"
>she goes onto black viewers profiles to find out if they're Foundational Black Americans, bans anyone who has a non-USA flag on profile
Yeah, I'd watch it

>> No.4157918

>>4157504
The issue is that it's based on his ethnicity. Its like any vtuber with a character shtick, the more you press it the faster it grows old and if it's something tied to your character it's hard to change. The difference he can't change it, at all. He's Tyler Perry for the rest of his career.

>> No.4158005

>>4156336
No, but I do want tan lines to be more common among chuubas.

>> No.4158009

>>4156336
Non-edgy response here. I'd watch a black vtuber if she showed familiarity with black culture and interests. A black vtuber who just imitates Asian vtubers would be boring. Just like normal black youtubers and streamers, the ones worth watching are the ones providing an experience the white girls can't provide.

>> No.4158047

>>4156518
he's a male, doesn't count

>> No.4158189

>>4156554
I am not white but damn anon, who hurt you so much?

>> No.4158201

>>4158009
Serious question, what experience would you be expecting that neither whites nor asians can provide?

>> No.4158305

>>4156336
Depends on how "black" are we talking here. If they are just like any other vtubers then I think there is no issue.

But if they are just black for the sake of being black (race politics, BLM,black supremacy) then, No. Most people who watch vtubers hate that kind of stuff.

>> No.4158405

speaking from experience, no not at all

>> No.4158474

>>4156989
making the distinction of white liberals is important. they'll faux outrage at people reacting to a black vtuber negatively but won't actually watch them either because they don't care about black people outside of being tools to fuel their own ego.

>> No.4158496

>>4158009
My only response to this is what you think being black adds to vtubing. Your audience is asians who are incredibly insular or geeky white people whose experience with black people is either cultural(Rap music and thug life schenanigans) or the loud kids in the cafeteria at school.

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>>4156554
>the vtuber audience
>not mainly SEAniggers and browns
it's like you've learned nothing this last year

>> No.4158685

>>4158496
>he doesn't know about the blerds
you're missing out on a whole world of memes and black weebs

>> No.4158783

>>4156336
NO FUCK OFF AND STOP TRYING TO FORCE REALITY INTO TO MY COPING MECHANISM

>> No.4158859

NIGGA!!!!

>> No.4158862

>>4158685
I'm aware they are just inconsequential and make up not even a percentage point of most fanbases except fighting games and shounen anime. Neither of which appeal to vtuber audiences. A better audience would be either latin american or the SEA region and before you ask those two hate blacks more than whites do.

>> No.4158897

>>4158859
We don't use that word here

>> No.4159014

>>4158897
yeah bring out the -er if you're gonna fit in here

>> No.4159038

>>4158859
>>4158897
Yeah we use the regular version here.

>> No.4159075

white people would love it

>> No.4159223

>>4158201
Mostly the cultural references, humor, and attitude. Probably should have said experiences that "white girls can't or don't" rather than just "can't".

>>4158496
>you think being black adds to vtubing
I think being black can provide a different flavor of vtubing. Like how watching a 40 year old woman stream crpgs can provide a different flavor from a 20 year old streamer. The different perspective makes it interesting. Or course, it also depends on the person.

>> No.4159298

>>4156336
For what purpose? The only people who like niggas are other niggas and niggas don't have supachat money.

Though they do tend to spend all their money on dumb shit like rims and gold teeth and crack, so maybe tempting them with...wait, I just realized, black men don't find black women attractive, so they fat white girls and Asians, so there is zero point to a black anime girl.

>> No.4159302

No, fuck niggers!

>> No.4159389

>>4158783
This but unironically.

>> No.4159435

>>4158305
I mean, people watch Mori

>> No.4159503

>>4157423
Honestly it overall depends on the upbringing of a youtuber's fanbase. Black gaming youtuber are usually one of 3 categories. There are those like Woolie who have a variety of talent or some drawing appeal to them that no one care if they're black, secondly there's youtubers that's obsessed with reminding people that they're the "unique black person in a community full of mostly non-blacks" who usually can't provide nothing else to the table except that factor, lastly there's those who plays games around a niche black community.

Overall it's hard to have a "black vtuber" without making the entire vtubing subgenre into something political. Even if they don't mention their race directly, I just don't see it working.

>> No.4159665

>>4157504
I'd rather watch that black pharaoh rapper that was banned from a U.S. conservative event because he attacked the ((())) on Twitter

>> No.4159828

>>4159503
Pretty much this.

>> No.4159857

>>4156336
The only minority that could really be accepted on this board is maybe, and I do mean maybe, is a Native American.
Maybe you could get a Latino seeing as Ironmouse succeeded, but she found success because of her condition making her impossible to hate without looking like an asshole

>> No.4159867

>Asian men are the primary vtuber audience
>implying they would be able to appreciate chocolate queens

>> No.4159923

>>4156336
What a stupid place to ask a question like this

>> No.4159935

>>4159857
Since when do 4channers care about looking like assholes?

>> No.4159995

>>4156336
No. Blacks are so politicised these days they will become SJW magnets and it wouldn't be good to attract any of them near the fanbase. Someone like Flare is the limit.
>inb4 black culture appropriation
>inb4 white washing
>inb4 BLM

>> No.4160075

>>4159503
>Overall it's hard to have a "black vtuber" without making the entire vtubing subgenre into something political. Even if they don't mention their race directly, I just don't see it working.
Well, they got a white Amelia Watson to work. I don't see why someone couldn't do the same concept except with a black fictional character instead.

>> No.4160296

>>4160075
Thing is, being a spic is not a matter of race.

>> No.4160413

I don't know, but Hololive needs more brown girls. How do you only have one of a signature anime archetype?

As long as she has the EN label then she'll hit 500k subs no problem, which is at least as good as the lower tier JPs and ID.

>> No.4160497

As long as you know how to push a coomer's buttons, every viewer you attract will have a sudden change of personality and start policing your chat for wrongthink while they're creaming their pants.

>> No.4160536
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4160536

Funny joke incoming

https://twitter.com/gogogo_ria
https://www.twitch.tv/gogogo_ria

actually has a nice voice IMHO but I dont watch vtwitchers

>> No.4160616

>>4156336
no and that avatar has no black features whatsoever

>> No.4160633

>>4160075
Because Ame's original design is a stereotypical depiction of a fantasy white character, something anime writers have been doing for decades(look up all the Jeannes, Alices, and Red Riding Hoods in anime/japanese gaming) and the voice behind Ame really sells the character into her own.
If you made a Cleopatra vtuber or whatever, I guarantee it'll create an uproar because the entire race is heavily political.

>> No.4160725

>>4160633
Egyptians are political?

>> No.4160733

>>4158405
How can you tell it's a matter of race and not just oversaturation? Are you sure you aren't one of those people who think they can attract an audience playing Valorant all day?

>> No.4160865

>>4156869
Does that also have to do with her having the highest female viewership?

>> No.4160892

>>4160725
the "we wuz" meme was created for a meme anon

>> No.4160920
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>>4160633
do NOT click on this extremely controversial design

>> No.4161366

>>4156336
the thing that makes vtubers work is almost none of them have a "race" outside of "anime girl/guy" and at the most a few might have japanese names
the language they speak is their "race" if that simile makes sense, there's already dark skinned vtubers anyways if that's what you're looking for

>> No.4161401

>>4156989
oh I wish they were as white as you say...

>> No.4161419

>>4160616
>You aren't really black unless you look like the sheeeeit guy

>> No.4161488

>>4156336
If she's hololive then i would at least give it a try. No black men tho, I don't want any Jamal fucking around my Vtubers...

>> No.4161517
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>>4156336
What about these two?

>> No.4161530

>>4161419
Correct.

>> No.4161572

>>4161419
You haven't been around enough if you don't know that's how many of them think. Ask any inner city teacher if they hear about kids getting bullied for looking "too white".

>> No.4161585

>>4157250
no matter how deep you fry a chuuba, they'll never look black with these facial features.

>> No.4161643

>>4161530
Not every black person has full-blooded african features

>> No.4161696

>>4156336
No. Because 14 year old girls can’t leave black people alone to do shit they enjoy

>> No.4161753

>>4161643
ogey.

>> No.4161792

>>4157250
>#blackvtuber
>doesn't sell the voice she's doing at all
>whiplashes personality from "oooo im so shy" to "look at how sexy i am look i can even ahegao"
>literally uwu
Basically the worst case scenario and justifies worries about blacks getting into vtubing.
>>4157081
Liking this bear though. Hoping to see more like this, but looking at the gap in popularity between these two doesn't make me very optimistic.

>> No.4161822

Isn't there a nigger vtuber that is something like a waitress or maid or something along those lines? I know I've seen some clippers shilling her.

>> No.4161890

>>4161792
>doesn't sell the voice she's doing at all
>whiplashes personality from "oooo im so shy" to "look at how sexy i am look i can even ahegao"
>literally uwu
This is pretty much every english language female vtuber out there.

>> No.4161894

>>4161753
He's saying the truth tho... Not that it matters, they are people too.

>> No.4161908

>>4160892
It was made to make fun of the kind of people who don't realize Egyptians still exist and don't look like Sub Saharan Africans. I get the joke, that the very existence of one would probably result in controversy, but I think it's also the wrong approach to simply gateway off something as pretty significant like all of Egypt because of some twitter warriors on the internet.

>> No.4161926

>>4159867
anon, that doesn't smell like chocolate...

>> No.4162003

>>4159857
>making her impossible to hate without looking like an asshole
only in your tiny, shackled mind

>> No.4162043

>>4161908
It's a little like white boys larping as romans.

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>>4157250
>Black "maid" vtuber
>Main profession is to be a servant
YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP

>> No.4162256

>>4162043
I don't want to get into this but that's a bit different because even if there was a Roman Emperor vtuber that would generate no where near as much controversy over her supposed whiteness.

The biggest gacha franchise in Japan has a white Briton King re-skinned as an emperor of Rome and no one cares.

>> No.4162304

>>4161419
there are hardly any blacks in america, they're all unironically mongrels. Go to Africa if you want to remind yourself what black looks like.

>> No.4162331

>>4162218
>>4162256
SHHHHH... It's more funny when people don't notice
The maid VTuber mentioned here is kinda cute NGL

>> No.4162403

>>4158685
Black weebs would already be insulated with weeb culture and be just as interested in vtubers/Japanese culture as the rest of the weebs. They don’t need additional black specific memes/culture to start watching.

Not to mention a focus on that kind of content would alienate a good portion of the potential viewer base, not for any fault of their own, but just due to the fact that black culture itself is, for better or for worse, pretty gatekeep-y.

>> No.4162482

>>4162403
Found the guy who was never invited to the cookout

>> No.4162488

>>4161643
ok mongrel

>> No.4162568

As long as they looked nice yes.

>> No.4162629

>>4162482
Found the poc raised in a non two parent household

>> No.4162667

>>4161696
Based

>> No.4162676

>>4162482
>>4162629
Both of you need some meds unironically, although I wonder if this thread still works as /vt/ related.

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>>4162676

>> No.4162944

>>4156554
aren't most of the vtuber audience Latin American, seanigger and Japanese?

>> No.4163011

>>4162944
Not outside their door, obviously.

>> No.4163282

>>4157423
>never draw attention to this race
he definitely does, especially when he hangs out with his black friend. he most tolerable black let's player by a great margin, but lets not pretend that would makes him a good vtuber. the biggest hurdle a black vtuber have to get over is being racism agnostic; i don't want to watch a cartoon girl talk about race issues.

>> No.4163355

>>4162944
>lonely conservative racist men
none of that conflicts with being latinx seanigger or japanese

>> No.4163418

>>4162944
Do you think any of those audiences like black people?

>> No.4163420

>>4163282
Other way around, he draws attention to his race because he's hanging out with his black friend. He is constantly bullied by everyone else that he's basically just a white guy in a black body. His attempts to draw attention to his race is purely to fit in.
Put him in a room with a mic by himself and a cartoon avatar and he'd never talk about it. We know this because he has a vtuber persona that he made as a joke.

> the biggest hurdle a black vtuber have to get over is being racism agnostic; i don't want to watch a cartoon girl talk about race issues.
Doubly so when they're playing a character.

>> No.4163717

>>4162043
>white boys larping as romans.
This is one of those retarded American things that leaves us eurofags completely baffled and confused. Bro, Romans were white. Beyond any shadow of doubt or discussion. And I say this because guess what? Roman legacy is omnipresent in my country. I'm from Dalmatia. Every single city and town, EVERY SINGLE ONE is built around either Greek or Roman core which morphs into the Medieval and Renaissance legacy and additions. You as an American darkie simply don't understand how profoundly ancient and tangibly present Roman legacy is in much of Europe. I am a Slav, true, but I sure as fuck don't look at a statue of Dioklecijan (Split is a bit further south from me) and see anything other than a White man. Or in all the other statues and decorations and so on and on. You people are so thoroughly poisoned and indoctrinated by anti-white bullshit that it has plunged you into depths of ignorance towards which people like me don't even want to approach, because we see it as a futile effort. You're simply too far gone.

And /his/ is pure shit, just like every other board.

Fuck you people are insane.

>> No.4163801

>>4162629
t. Deadbeat Dad.

>> No.4163964

>>4159857
latino can do it because they can avoid talking about racism. because of the climate, that is something impossible for black people to do. even if somehow they do remain politics free, their audience will not. they will always see them as BLACK vtuber. they will be hyper focused on their race and will either put them on a pedestal or throw rocks at them.

>> No.4164053

>>4160536
shes so cute

>> No.4164063

>>4163717
Anon, white guilt Americans believe that white people don't tan naturally like spics because the stereotypical white American is a redneck.

>> No.4164094

>>4161419
correct actually, you really havent seen actual africans

>> No.4164131

>>4161517
this would be cool if people werent actual massive sperglords that cried about racism on everything they see

>> No.4164174

>>4157250
not black
but at best brazilian

>> No.4164280

>>4163717
ogey

>> No.4164292

>>4161366
race can be done as long as it doesn't add any weird tensions. For example, Holo ID, kiara's Australian heritage, Ame's Mexican karaoke. US politics made it impossible for blacks not to have an aura of race tension following them. I think an African vtuber would have much better luck than a black vtuber.

>> No.4164305

>>4157250
Imma colonize this negress damn that model. Black slave maid is exactly what we need in 2021

>> No.4164358

I guess the question we should be asking is if you hated Noor from NijiIN

>> No.4164359

>>4156336
Why not?

>> No.4164460

>>4163717
these mutant anglos are unbelievable

>> No.4164498

>>4164292
>US politics made it impossible for blacks not to have an aura of race tension following them. I think an African vtuber would have much better luck than a black vtuber.
If we're going to take this to its ultimate expression, a black VTuber would be impossible as an EN branch.

>> No.4164550

>>4157250
the way her voice cracks is kinda cute desu

>> No.4164622

>>4164292
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3beOu90Byw
Can you imagine if he became a vtuber?

>> No.4164678

>>4164498
>a black VTuber would be impossible as an EN branch.
Yes. This is the truth.

>> No.4164776

>>4164622
no matter how based they might be, you will never get me to watch male vtubers.

>> No.4164924

>>4163717
Kek. Pure Romans were tanned. Hell, their views on race were that lighter skinned people living north of them were stupid and brave/violent and were uncultured wearers of pants and darker skinned people to the south of them were sneaky scoundrels but weaklings. They believed because they were right in the center they got the best of both "races" by being brave and smart.
Just because some vestiges of the roman empire reached up there doesn't mean they didn't consider you an uncultured barbarian.

>> No.4164995

>>4160536
>she/her
yea, no thanks.

>> No.4165127

>>4163717
You have the wrong idea about me but I appreciate the passion. I didn't even actually consider the "Romans aren't white" angle, I'm just trying to poke fun at the kind of people who twist Imperial Roman culture and Germanic paganism into a single identity as if they aren't like oil and water.

>> No.4165307

>>4163717
>extremely cringe croatpost
imagine being this colonised by american ideology and still completely unaware

>> No.4165323

>>4156336
A black dude is ok, some have good humor. Black woman no, even black dudes hate them, how can I watch someone who is hated by their own people.

>> No.4165357

>>4165323
lol, there are a lot of black girls who hate black guys as well.

>> No.4165482

>>4164776
Looks female to me

>> No.4165489

>>4156336
Trick question, 95% of chuubas are black, why else do you think they use avatars?

>> No.4165590

>>4157250
Would race mix

>> No.4165675

>>4157423
>Someone like Woolie would never draw attention to his race.
Lmao have you seen the shit he has tattoed on his back? Before he became irrelevant I saw this nigga from SBFP and the only thing he has going on or talks about is his race because he's a massive insecure nigger that muses over being too "white", every joke or punchline of his comes around to lol I'm black or wah police wacist, also obvious unironic anti-white racemixer all those blacked thread on /v/ are probably his.
Also what this guy said >>4164292 he's nothing BUT race tension and will turn anything he's part of into some subtle race war. If he the best example you had for "cool" black person just shows how low the bar is.

>> No.4165759

>>4156336
There's plenty of black vtubers out there. You just need to know where to look.
I will colonize them all.

>> No.4165793

>>4165759
>plenty
please name 5.

>> No.4165846

>>4156560
This. Flare has Watame and Ina levels of fanbase. Every member is welcomed by the other members when you join. Elfriends is a cult.

>> No.4166196

>>4160633
>>4160725
>>4160892
Cleopatra was ethnically Greek. A descendant of Ptolemy, military leader under Alexander the Great.

>> No.4166445

I don't think a black vtuber can't be successful but it's probably much harder.
There's just a huge demographic of racists, not just Americans but SEAmonkeys and Japs and Chinks who refuse to watch a black vtuber or black weebs in general. You can get past this if you're sufficiently talented, like a musician or artist, to force people to take notice of you. Also there's probably some necessity to be a female uncle tom or some shit and act extremely wholesome to separate themselves from the reputation racists have crafted around black identity. It's probably more trouble than it's worth when you can just make an onlyfans and not have to deal with any of this shit while making way more money.

>> No.4166549

>>4166445
>It's probably more trouble than it's worth when you can just make an onlyfans and not have to deal with any of this shit while making way more money.
Is this seriously what the mongoloids who post here think of this medium?

>> No.4166964

>>4156336
mukbang streams of eating fried chicken and watermelons would be kino though

>> No.4167369
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>black vtubers can't be successful because everyone is racist
Retards desu. Main issue with most 'black vtubers' is two things, and none of them have anything to do with if someone is being racist or prejudiced against them.
>Good design
Lots of black vtuber avatars look like a fucking mess. Majority of people seem to think that simply palette swapping the skin tone is good enough, but that simply isn't the case. Black anime characters need to be designed with the skin colour in mind, not as a side thought, since it deviates from the standard and greatly alters how colours pop out on them. It's not impossible for them to have good designs (see Nessa, Nagoriyuki, Miruko), but since it takes more effort, indies aren't taking that into account and are just slapping whatever on their avatars.
>Interesting personality
As is the problem with a majority of western vtubers, most black vtubers simply don't have a very interesting personality. Sometimes this also results in them just playing into the fact they are 'black', and falling onto stereotypes for cheap, low hanging laughs and clip baiting. 'Being black' isn't a real personality, and it turns people away who don't give a shit about that kind of stuff and just want to see you play games or be entertaining.

"Black" vtubers share a lot of the same problem as other western vtubers, in that a majority of them don't have any real talents, don't have a good design, aren't interesting or are just riding a trend instead of doing something they are passionate about. It has nothing to do with race, as much as some people want to pretend it is.

They can do well, and a 'black' vtuber can succeed, but only if the person behind it is able to overcome the common issues shared with a majority of western vtubers. Then, instead of being just a good 'black vtuber', they can be something actually more worth something, which is to be good 'western vtuber', cause fuck knows we don't have a lot of them.

>> No.4167399

>>4166964
ASMR crunch tingles...

>> No.4167514

>>4166445
> huge demographic of racists
>to be a female uncle tom or some shit and act extremely wholesome
>call people racists
>assume blacks need to act to be wholesome
Why do you even bother shit talking others when you think of blacks as niggers anyway? This is 4chan.

>> No.4172366

>>4158685
> missing out on a whole world of memes
If it involves any variation of Nigga/stereotypes of all kinds (most of the funny ones) ...good luck. Hololive already had to put that on the no-no list because of the JP ladies playin GTA. If it involves big asses, sports, fashion, food...etc. sure, bro.

>> No.4172459

>>4156336
> niggers
> ever amounting to anything

>> No.4172485

"Black" models be like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z1CjyJQI1E

>> No.4172493

>>4156336
This thread was made by HoloEn 2 black member

>> No.4172531 [DELETED] 

The only black guy worth something was Malcolm X.
And he was killed by blacks. Crab mentality.

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>>4156336
No, but a greenskin orc/goblin type V tuber might work

>> No.4172616

>>4164924
>Pure Romans were tanned
any white would be tanned if he lived where the romans did

>> No.4172698

>>4156560
Her avatar was also stiff and immobile and she was more reserved back then.

>> No.4172774

>>4160536
holy shit her voice is good

>> No.4172876

Dark skin invokes negative emotions in people so I doubt it.

>> No.4172971

>>4156554
You're not wrong but i think the latter is more racist than the former.

One is racist to your face while the other doesn't give a shit about black people, they just want to feel better about themselves.

>> No.4173136

>>4165675
>"also obvious unironic anti-white racemixer"
>in a successful yt channel that consisted of only white guys
>literally has a white wife

>> No.4173170 [DELETED] 

How come /vt/ is so racist and nothing is done about it? This isn't one off comments, there is literal comments of racism right now. It needs to stop now. It's a a fucking blue board. Clean up the racist users AND racist mods.

I recommend 30 day bans and 1 year bans for evaders

>> No.4173360 [DELETED] 

I have a fatal case of black fatigue

fuck niggers

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>I have a fatal case of black fatigue

>fuck niggers

>> No.4173796

We're in the worst timeline. Etika would've been the best if not the only good western male vtuber

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Bait thread

>> No.4173981

>>4156336
If they make good content with a comfy voice anyone could make it if they have the right contacts. But there is many landmines that would be needed to be dodged

>> No.4174074

>>4163418
my mom makes fun of niggers and their smell kek

>> No.4174283

jibo bros...

>> No.4174384

>>4173397
>>4173979
Nigger haters are losers ima right fellas, where ma reddit gold fellow antifas, theres literally nothing wrong with our fellow african nigs

>> No.4174430

>>4174384
Nobody said that, stop projecting

>> No.4174533

>>4174384
You okay, bud?

>> No.4175054

>>4173170
are you white?

>> No.4175523

>>4173360
We don't use that word here.

>> No.4176518

>>4174533
>Haha you ok buddy? hating that much? youre such a hatefull person, i hate you
Literally you retard

>> No.4176545

>>4176518
lmfao meds

>> No.4176655

>>4176545
he's too far gone

>> No.4176683

>>4161517
beavis and butthead?

>> No.4177060

>>4175523
Yeah we do. Just scroll up fag.

>> No.4177322

>>4164292
>I think an African vtuber would have much better luck than a black vtuber.
>Thinking western liberals know or care that theres a difference
I get what you mean and I think it can also work as long as THAT crowd doesn't dogpile her and she stresses the point about living in Africa (can be kayfabe if they actually live in the US) or being African to the point that few people will ask her opinions on US centric events.

>> No.4178555

>>4177322
Isn't there a group of Vtubers that are from South Africa?

>> No.4178757

>>4176683
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7pOaa0j4xw

>> No.4179049

>>4178555
Yes but they're all white I think

>> No.4179135

>Eh yo, Lashawwwwnda here with another "why ur racist" and amongus stream. lets start out, why are you racist? it's cuz you're white. yes you white devil. lets play some among us. lets vote for the white guy because white is sus. i dont care if the black one killed the other black one right in front of me, white is being ejected and if you don't agree with me, i'll end the game.

>> No.4179891

I wish we lived in a world where dark skin wasn't an political issue.

>> No.4179964

>>4179891
wish granted
you now live in africa

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>>4156336
NO. Never, not in a million years. Especially in Japan, an extremely racist country.

(unless you join vS*oujo, they're full of SJWs anyway)

>> No.4181415

>>4156336
possible, but only if they don't market themselves as "black" vtubers. that's 100% a guaranteed way to kill your channel because you'll cater to a specific audience of SJWs (who probably don't watch vtubers anyway).

>> No.4181486

>>4156336
No because she's a nigger

>> No.4181650

>>4179964
You know nothing about africa if you think this is the case. Its the strongest argument against the thought that a fully white europe would get along.
Folks kill eachother over ethnic minutiae like hair texture or nose size, its a whole continent of irl "you're not white" discussion but with at least one kalash per househould and no social net.
>thats not dark skin
Having dark or light skin, or pro- or anti-white or neutral, or having white family members or not having them, are political issues in Africa. recently also the chinese, but way less.
Its still very much a political issue.

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I mean, Trinity has been pretty alright, but the moment she post something for BLM or any shit like that, my opinion will be shifted.

>> No.4182822

>>4181486
They should make 13% of the vtuber population and see if they commit 50% of yabs.

>> No.4183150

>>4181650
In reality people only earth just kill each other over the most minor of differences and it is not exclusive to one group

>> No.4183413

>>4181650
>Its the strongest argument against the thought that a fully white europe would get along.
The Germans were ass raped in WW2 to prevent this from ever happening again.

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>>4157081
Came here to post this bear. Love this dork.
She spent an entire stream just gushing over Jurassic Park and dinosaurs.

>> No.4183663

>>4156554
It's only this way in America, the majority of anime/vtuber watchers are nonwhites and have always been as far as I've noticed.

>> No.4183739

>>4183663
It’s that way in U.S too, despite the memes but the same people who watch anime are also the kind of non whites to not make a huge fuss about everything

>> No.4183741

>>4183663
That bodes even worse for black vtubers. Latinos and Asians aren't known for being very friendly to black people.

>> No.4183932

>>4183739
It's that way in Canada, but I wasn't sure if it were true in the USA, because I always see Americans call anime characters white

>> No.4184066

>>4183741
>Latinos
varies, but they definitely get along way more than people think
>Asians
Also varies, I mean I have a black friend literally in Korea and she has a bunch of Korean friends.

>>4183932
It's more of a loud minority thing

>> No.4184244

>>4183741
That's kinda true, but that just means that a black vtuber would have to have black people as their target audience. They would have to use ebonics, play smash or whatever black ecelebs do these days.

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I could be wrong here, but I found another "black" vtuber. He also knows some japanese if that's a plus for you.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0aXcLThZYwaxUukLhmVBng/featured

His name is Zwei Kanie, a tiny armored robot crab.

>> No.4186228

>>4156336
Chansey the rapper

>> No.4186386

>>4160633
Wasn't the design of Ame's previous life based on Misaki from Welcome to the NHK?

>> No.4186605

>>4157250
i will never understand the appeal of niggers

>> No.4186857

>>4156336
Maybe not, but it's important to remember that they're not really a monolith.

>> No.4187015

>>4156336
A brown girl would do fine but nobody's going to watch SHIIIIIIIIET WAKANDA BIX NOOD

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>>4156336
Black youtuber but played by white/asian streamer irl would work.

>> No.4190307

>>4156554
If she's talented, cute, or has good taste in games, I'll watch.
>>4156929
>Can't think beyond stereotypes.

>> No.4190522
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>>4156336

See:

>> No.4190766

>>4190522
Based and redpilled.

>> No.4191491

>>4156336
No, because black isn't a pleasing color to look at.

>> No.4193609

>>4161908
>It was made to make fun of the kind of people who don't realize Egyptians still exist and don't look like Sub Saharan Africans.
That's not much of a counter-argument to anything either. The claim is that certain West African groups (mainly in the Eastern portion) migrated from the Red Sea region out to West Africa at some point. You already have Southern Egyptians and Sudanese who look much like this, with the other features clearly being from intermarriage with locals. The whole thing comes from an examination of historic records.
>>4160633
>If you made a Cleopatra vtuber or whatever, I guarantee it'll create an uproar because the entire race is heavily political.
Then just don't do that.
>Hausa scholar
>Mossi founder reference
>Fon Amazon
>Yoruba Priestess
If she chose something with its roots in history, these would be much better.

>> No.4194628

>>4159503
niggers are insecure and sensitive. it will never work out.

>> No.4194758

>>4166445
>There's just a huge demographic of racists
no one likes black people. even black people themselves.

>> No.4194973

>>4156336
no and if she is in somekind of vtuber group the others will get nerfed to ensure "equality" for her

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>>4190522
that profile picture is pretty ironic

>> No.4195746

>>4181650
Ethnic conflicts usually aren't over petty differences in features. It usually has to do with economic conditions and the histories of their countries' interactions.

>> No.4195996

>>4190522
Based.

>> No.4196673

>>4156336
Depends on what you mean by black. A brown avatar is nothing special. An avatar that is supposed to be a black person from america would be odd because most avatars are just fantasy people from random made up places. A black person being behind the vtuber model would easily be possible and nothing special really. If you've ever been to an anime con you've absolutely been around a bunch of black weebs who can hold a normal conversation without going full BLM or ebonics. Saying you couldn't have a black vtuber due to this would be the same as saying you couldn't have a white vtuber from the south with a southern accent because they would scream nigger and talk about Trump.

Also this >>4167369

>> No.4197088

>>4158474
Not watching someone doesn't mean you don't "care", and watching someone doesn't mean you "care" either. I just watch people who are the most entertaining, and some people watch because they "care" about how sexy the model is, you can even think that they probably have shitty personalities.
You can say your oshi has a "good" personality, but if they were boring as fuck to you, you wouldn't watch them.

>> No.4198063

>>4167369
Did you somehow forget that "not black enough" is a thing in anglo western society? It doesn't matter how good of a personality you have, if you are perceived to be black, they will cherry pick and berate you on this angle alone until you do or you quit.

>> No.4198200

>>4156336
Since when bestiality is a thing in Vtuber industry?

>> No.4200346

>>4172366
I mean I'm sure they didn't just mean hololive, even if this is the hololive board.
>>4161696
That's weird, so you guys are all 14 year old girls?
>>4163717
That's... not even what he was saying, holy shit. He's saying that just because you're a random light-skinned person doesn't mean you're the same as every other somewhat light-skinned person (ignoring every other difference). As in a South African is not randomly the same as a Russian. So if all white people can randomly LARP as romans then anyone can LARP as anyone.
>>4190522
They aren't "adding" black people, he was already historically there. What's the big deal?

>> No.4200867

>>4200346
He's saying his escapist fantasy means an entire entertainment industry without blacks, since he views their entire existence as political weight.

>> No.4201716

>>4156336
Dark skin toned cartoons genuinely have worse aesthetics in a color theory standpoint. I'm not being racist or anything, this is actually true for the medium. Have you ever wondered why dark skinned characters tend to have white hair and clothes? Its to offset the skin tone. In a general sense you have to bend over backwards to have darker characters that look decent. On that note, this is also the reason anime characters are so light skinned. Its not because Japanese people don't know they have darker skin or that they prefer light skin, its just an aesthetic choice for cartoons.

>> No.4202048

>>4190522
The story of Yasuke is funny because with a little ill will it would be extremely easy to twist the narrative into "Nobunaga dehumanized him, reduced him to his skin color, treated him like property, like a circus freak, etc."

There's no money or clout to be made there though, so you'll never see it. Never forget how many people working to "repair race relations" are actually just grifters.

>> No.4202704

>>4201716
That sounds like bullshit to me. What about artists who do the same thing with nominally Asian characters? Dark skin lets you get away with plenty of fashion choices that don't look as good on someone with light skin too. I think tattoos look far more elegant on black skin, for example.

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>>4201716
>Dark skin toned cartoons genuinely have worse aesthetics in a color theory standpoint. I'm not being racist or anything, this is actually true for the medium. Have you ever wondered why dark skinned characters tend to have white hair and clothes? Its to offset the skin tone.
There's no need to offset it like that. Brown skin and dark hair work wonderfully with subdued hot colors, and they wear gold/silver accents better than anyone else. You can also throw on a mishmash of colors that are enhanced by the dark skin, and make use of supporting dark colors without generating contrast.

>> No.4203480

>>4202704
>>4202772
But its actually true. I don't really feel like debating but as somebody who knows even a little bit about graphics design I recognize that most of the time having darker skinned characters requires the entire pallet of a scene to work around it. There is also issues regarding showing facial features and adding noticeable light shading. By the way, I am not talking about actual dark skinned people, this is in regards to the cartoon medium that doesn't adhere to ambient lighting effects you see irl.
Next time you see darker skinned cartoon characters recognize that the pallet used for their skin rarely matches the actual color tone they are representing (its often lighter and richer) and the surrounding scene will usually have a drastically different color pallet then most other cartoons do.

>> No.4203562

>>4156336
How is Great Black Otaku's Vtuber career going?

>> No.4203655

>>4203480
>as somebody who knows even a little bit about graphics design
Let me guess, you were introduced to the color wheel in web design class?

>> No.4203724

>>4203480
Anon, give a visual example.

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>>4203480
>the pallet used for their skin rarely matches the actual color tone they are representing (its often lighter and richer)
>this is in regards to the cartoon medium that doesn't adhere to ambient lighting effects you see irl
How the fuck does any of that translate to "dark skin can't work in 2D"?

>There is also issues regarding showing facial features and adding noticeable light shading
Point out what's wrong with picrel for me.

>the surrounding scene will usually have a drastically different color pallet then most other cartoons do
This one you really pulled out of your ass. I don't really feel like debating either.

>> No.4204057

>>4156336
I'm retarded... I didn't notice CHANCE-C.

>> No.4204191

>>4203655
>>4203724
>>4203850
Jojo actually does have a more smokey color pallet than most cartoons imo, also a unique artstyle
Look, honestly, you guys can google stills of the Proud Family and compare them to something like Kim Possible if you want, or you can just believe all animators are overtly racist for no reason and that Japanese people wish they had light skin which would be dumb of you. I just got invited over for dinner somewhere so I'm leaving.

>> No.4204262

>>4159503
>Overall it's hard to have a "black vtuber" without making the entire vtubing subgenre into something political. Even if they don't mention their race directly,
thats the problem the BLMs, SJWs or pols would obsess and orbit the fuck out of them

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Look at all the artistic license they had to take with the shading here. How will white people ever recover?

>> No.4204339

>>4160733
You can't just call them oversaturated, anon. That's rude.

>> No.4204453

>>4156485
And don't forget that Noel worked for months with Flare to get her on people's radar. Noel is real nigga.
>>4156554
Wow, projecting much?
>>4159995
This this this.

>> No.4204549

>>4204191
>Look, honestly, you guys can google stills of the Proud Family and compare them to something like Kim Possible if you want
>Comparing ugly with ugly
You have poor taste, anon.
>or you can just believe all animators are overtly racist for no reason and that Japanese people wish they had light skin which would be dumb of you.
I just believe you don't know what you're talking about. This isn't even about animators.

>> No.4204676

>>4167369
This is correct. The thread should've ended there

>> No.4204761

>>4167369
This. Now end the thread.

>> No.4204788

>>4204676
>>4204761
Do you have any idea where you are?

>> No.4204952

>>4156336
A black weebs would make for a better CEO of a western vtuber agency than a vtuber

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>>4156336
>Would a black vtuber sell
to me, at least
>be as popular as the other ones
no
black girls are too niche if your audience is otaku

>> No.4209723

>>4157423
>never draw attention to this race
The sudden death of his sister got him hard and he started to lean more into identity politics since then.

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>>4202048
Nobunaga hated samurais, Yosuke was his Incitatus.

>> No.4212447

>>4181486
We don't use that word here

>> No.4212616

>>4212447
We sit at the back of the bus

>> No.4213118

>>4201716
>its just an aesthetic choice for cartoons.
No, it's literally because you don't have to color skin for manga characters so it's just a default that their skin is "white". Imagine having to shade the skin tone of every character in every manga page and chapter. It's a ton more work.

>> No.4213492

>>4213118
Dude... you can apply that digitally.

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