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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyfsWFrflq8

https://twitter.com/tsunderia_us/status/1617341472914677763

She's getting poached by fishman, isn't she? Amiya and Lisa when?

>> No.41532463

>>41532289
who? what?

>> No.41532584

>>41532289
Tsunderia is the company that gave their vtubers ownership of the models and IPs right?

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>>41532289

>> No.41532645

>not joining a company
Get fucked fishfags.

>> No.41532677
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41532677

Purin and Lisa belong in that shitshow, but please God forbid Ami from even learning about it.
>>41532463
EoP-friendly Flip doggirl, recently cunnyfied herself, now with her leaving Tsunderia they've lost all the bigger talents
>>41532584
You're most likely thinking of CyberLive, but Tsunderia probably did that too with Orla.

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>>41532289
Who?

>> No.41532692

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyfsWFrflq8
She's streaming right now.
Has said she's not going to any other company and will be an indie.

>> No.41532703

>>41532289
Who is...fishman? Is that a new vtuber group?

>> No.41532760

>doesn't know who purin is
get out

>> No.41532785

>>41532692
They all say that though. Money talks. Wemi will push for her to get poached.

>> No.41532818

>>41532584
Yes. If another company wanted they could just directly port her over with the same channel and model. She can also go indie. We'll see what happens. Maybe she can't say anything for a few weeks which is what happened with the Cyberlive girls

>> No.41532841

Is she going indie? I'd hate evil Korone going away forever

>> No.41532936

>>41532289
why should i care about vtubers that 80 people watch

>> No.41532942

>Empty your balls, not your wallets.

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>>41532289
Purin...

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>>41532760
hololive board.

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>>41532841
she has a cunny model now

>> No.41533609

>>41532936
If you have any interest in the small-corpo realm it falls under the heading of 'business news', corpo just lost two of their managers and one of their gen.0 talents. I think they're held together by one gen of five talents. I also believe they were the first US-based vtuber corpo.

>> No.41533897

>>41533017
Your territory is rapidly shrinking.

>> No.41535001

>>41533897
That isn't even close to being true

>> No.41535432

>>41532677
Ami and Lumi should just form a retro duo where they stream retro games and watch cute dumb movies together and talk about food

>> No.41535716

>>41533017
God dammit subatomo stop embarrassing yourself, If you are here, at least watch fucking divegrass league. I ‘m also pro blue triangle, but knows lots of other corpos through vt league

>> No.41535843

rrats on why she went indie?

>> No.41535847

>>41532289
is she keeping her sex model?

>> No.41536046

>>41535843
Tsunderia's been a sinking ship for at least two years
I was suprised that she hadn't left as a part of the last exodus

>> No.41536077

>>41532289
Literally who

>> No.41536105

Tsunderia is collapsing. Something horrible must have happened.

>> No.41536116

>>41535843
tsunderia chuubas are basically indie anyways

>> No.41536145

>>41532936
You shouldn't, anon. Stick to vHoloNiji. It's where you belong.

>> No.41536187

I hate how when someone breaks free of a black company every retard starts acting like they're a free agent to be won over and not like they're an indie that's, you know, free

>> No.41536190

>>41536105
Nothing happened.

>> No.41536307

>>41535843
She's joining Phase, fishman bought her out

>> No.41536304

>>41535847
She said on stream she's keeping everything. Model, stream assets, etc are all hers to keep.

>> No.41536352

Lisa... please don't be the last one to leave this sinking ship

>> No.41536377

>>41536304
nice!

>> No.41536410

>>41535843
there's not really any rrats to be had, literally everyone has left outside of one talent that everyone said just straight up missed the memo last exodus (and I'm not even sure if that was a meme frankly since she was MIA at the time) and their most recent (year old) gen that's probably still under contract.

>> No.41536629

>>41536190
That exactly it.
The owner offers no support for the talents or staff. He just kicks back and skims money off their paychecks

>> No.41536679

>>41536352
Don't worry there's Hanabi for that

>> No.41537124

>>41532289
if purin is leaving tsunderia must really be dying
>>41536190
that's probably the main problem

>> No.41537247

>>41536105
>>41536190
Nah, something definitely actually happened this time. Both remaining managers also quit last week at the exact same time, this is more than the usual negligence at work.

>> No.41537420

>>41536352
She's too nice and kind to leave. She'd feel bad.

>> No.41537460

>>41532685
not!korone who is also a filipino loli

>> No.41537472

>>41537247
Purin did say "What's Gen 4? when asked about it last week.
If I had to make one big rrat guess: Gen 4 got canceled. All currently ongoing projects have been put on hold (covers and such). The managers did not quit, they were actually laid off.
This told everyone the company has no money and they'd be fools to stick around.

>> No.41537490

>>41537247
I think people are fed up. They've been talking and decided to finally do it

>> No.41537665

>>41532289
>under the care of Tsunderia
>care
lmao

>> No.41537726

>>41537247
>>41537472
>>41537490
Daily reminder that the exodus was caused by Urara leaving

>> No.41538534

Don't tell anyone I said this but Tsunderia is shutting down

>> No.41538689

>>41538534
Are you the insider that gave the general the dates for the past two announcements?

>> No.41538743

>>41537726
And to this day we don't know why Urara left in the first place. All we can surmise is that it wasn't a particularly amicable situation.

>> No.41538861

>>41538534
date or gtfo

>> No.41538983

>>41538689
no that was me, and i'm not an insider i just pulled dates out of my ass (very unfortunate, i was hoping it wouldve been gen 4 announcement)

>> No.41539097

>>41538983
Gotta say it was pretty fucking funny to say "1/20/22 except they forgot to save as a scheduled tweet so it will actually be 1/22/22" only for both dates to be (nearly) right.

>> No.41539164

>>41539097
They announced rei and myst leaving on the 19th solely to spite me

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>>41535716
Based divegrass league enjoyer.

>> No.41540049

>>41536410
>outside of one talent that everyone said just straight up missed the memo last exodus (and I'm not even sure if that was a meme frankly since she was MIA at the time)
That definitely wasn't a meme, she had no idea anything had happened until she got back from her hiatus about a month afterwards.

>> No.41540355

>>41537420
Idk man, she's nice to a fault but she's not a total idiot, she see's the writing on the wall, has even made comments about how little the company does for her own stream. It's easy to infantilize her with how cute she is, but she's probably smart enough to not feel like she owes something to a company taking her money and not doing shit, she'll probably leave with the rest of tsundream.

>> No.41540702

>>41540355
If she does leave I wonder what is she planning to do, she has connections on a few corpos but could also just stay indie. I honestly don't know what would be the best in her case

>> No.41540885

>>41540702
I think she's too attached to her current fanbase to reincarnate (almost cried last week when talking about how she almost wasn't able to stream that day) and while it isn't technically impossible I don't see her becoming an invader (might just be my bias against the phase fans), so she'll probably just go indie. Being indie is objectively better for her though, it'll seriously alleviate her money issues when she stops having to give her dead company money

>> No.41541180

>>41533111
The only reason I started to pay attention to her.

>> No.41541277

>>41540702
The only company who has poached talents that I know of is Phase but I wouldn't wish that to any decently talented chuuba.
If Idol is open to accepting vtubers with pre-established models it might be a good choice, specially seeing how much they cover music expenses it would be a nice fit for Lisa specifically

>> No.41541330

>>41536187
If even kekson can't even resist sweet vwhore money, no en speaking indie can.

Unless you are shonshon.

>> No.41541569

>>41532677
Not given, but Miori, Yuuna and Meru got to buy theirs, and Kallin was for some reason allowed to use hers (and Urara's) until redebut. Urara still has hers in theory although she's basically a shadow now. I don't know the full story with Char.

>> No.41541597

>>41541330
Go back numbercuck

>> No.41541687

>>41532703
The CEO of Phase-Connect goes by Sakana, so "fishman" is the slang everyone uses for him.

>> No.41541746
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41541746

Absolutely based design in my humble healthy heterosexual opinion

>> No.41541993

>>41541277
Idol's CEO has said on Twitter that he's open about people joining with an already existing design as long as it isn't too weird looking in comparison to the rest of the corpo, Tsunderia has good models so that wouldn't be a problem
>>41541746
SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEX

>> No.41542286

>>41532645
>already memory-holed the Kson solo arc and how that ended.
>already memory-holed how Yuri and Lumi became Phase Invaders
You don't just join the company right away. Menhera girls don't last long without a hand guiding them.

>> No.41542390

>>41542286
Yes anon, but the difference here is that the women you mentioned were awful whores and always have been.

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>>41532289
That damned brat...!

>> No.41542721

Prism, Tsundaria and Phase seem tohave an informal alliance. I wouldn't be surprised if Prism isn't taking in the Tsundaria boys for the mixed gen they seem content on slitting their own throats with. Lisa is 100 percent going to Phase if she leaves. Amiya may go solo, but I wouldn't be surprised if she gets picked up by Phase or another company. She likes having the resources companies provides and Phase has been really pushing the music side lately

>> No.41543460

>>41542721
>for the mixed gen they seem content on slitting their own throats with
Admittedly I only watch Amiya but I think she's only collabed with the guys like.. twice, and both were anniversary type streams.

>> No.41543495

>>41542721
If pippas original song is a sign of phases music quality I do not fucking want Lisa going to them

>> No.41543793

>>41532289
Finally Purin will be getting the dick she desperately needs, so glad Fishman is sponsoring her passport and offering to let her bunk at his house

>> No.41543808

>>41543793
Stop same posting fishman

>> No.41543976

Phase shills spawning like fucking vermin as soon as they hear the word "graduation" from a small corpo

>> No.41544103

>>41543460
Tsundaria, who was already struggling, needed a hit traditional all-female gen to get solid footing. I like the male portion of Tsundream well enough, but the hard fact is that males are historically a company luxury and they are rarely done right even by large corpos. The mixed gens in Niji haven't done the numbers Niji thought it would. Tempus did alright but they aren't mixed. Anycolor and Cover has the cash on hand to stomach the losses, Tsundaria doesn't or didn't. Now Prism is walking that route. Perhaps they will reconsider it for the time being.

>> No.41544183

>>41543976
Oh as if niji and holofags don't do the same shit.

>> No.41544259

>>41544103
That's not the issue at all though, it never was, it was just the lack of managemenr

>> No.41544273

>>41532289
>sounds like a 6 year old
she'll be fine

>> No.41544486

How likely is it that Purin was fucking at least one of the staff members that just got fired a few days ago?

>> No.41544516

>>41544486
Purin and Rei got caught scissoring on Discord stage.

>> No.41544583

>>41544259
If you can't make money, you can't retain or recruit competent management. Without competent management the talents jump ship. Tsundaria's hiring process across the board set the company on a disaster course.

>> No.41544645

>>41544486
I think it's most likely that the company is falling apart beyond repair now and Purin is just the first one to leave

>> No.41544646

>Tsundaria
How to spot a tourist.

>> No.41544724

>>41542721
pippaniggers are the worst part of lisa chat, you need to fuck off

>> No.41544966

>>41544646
>Only argument left is over a misspelling
Ok Buddy.
>>41544724
I'm sorry you still live in a dreamland, I guess?

>> No.41545052

>>41532289
Tsunderia is a sinking ship at this point. I really hope Hanabi, Lisa, and Ami end up somewhere else where they actually get support. This is the one time where I would be ok with Sakana coming in for the save.

>> No.41545072

>>41544966
There's no arguing over a corpse.

>> No.41545090

>>41532584
No.

>>41532818
No, retard.

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>>41535843

>> No.41545589

>>41543495
Good thing that this is the only phase song in existence and that you aren't being a little shit right now.
Also that song is great. Actually has something to do with the chuuba singing it, even if she can't sing.

>> No.41545613

>>41544966
Kys nigger

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>>41545213
jesus christ

>> No.41545766

>>41543976
>>41532645
Why are you acting like a streamer that has been struggling to break into 3view territory for over 2 years now would be such a massive catch and not a charity pickup?

>> No.41545829

>>41545766
>he thinks only numbers matter

>> No.41545834

>>41545721
Yeah it looks really bad, it's only made slightly better by the fact that it's very easy for the talents to just up and leave and keep the model, but otherwise yeah it's pretty much as bad as it looks. There's basically no reason to stay with the company

>> No.41545853

>>41545766
Do you know how many corpo vtubers with big numbers are former 2views who couldn't break up despite good content because they can't market themselves?

>> No.41546481

>>41545721
Not even the worst out there.

>> No.41546576

>>41546481
>Not doxxing your talents

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>>41546481
what is the worst?

>> No.41547059

>>41546748
NTA but myHoloTV probably has the worst rep as far as small corpos go

>> No.41547094

>>41542721
>Prism owned by Sony but their management is still inexistent
>Kawaii deals with shitty JP management that cheaps out as much as they can
>WACTOR is a literal black company
>Tsunderia is practically dead after this
>Phase members have made fun of their own CEO many times in the past because of dumb decisions, the girls are better managers than him
>Idol has jewish management
Small corpo management extravaganza.
If anything Idol has been doing smart business decisions and actually investing in their talents, so despite them being Jews I could only wish they were the norm when it comes to management in the small could industry

>> No.41547106

WHO AND WHAT? LOL

>> No.41547298

Why are most English speaking vtubers from esl countries? Myth only has 1 but Nijisanji EN and these small companies are filled with esl asian women

>> No.41547383

>>41547094
Thing is, this is how it is in nearly every industry. Management is generally useless beyond being a buffer and point of contact between the regular workers and the higher ups. Most companies could exist without them and very little would change. It's why management is the first people to be laid off during downsizing.

>> No.41547491

>>41545213
At this point they should either just shut down and let everyone walk away with their models, or seek to get bought out by another corpo.

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>>41542286
None of the other Tsun girls went corpo. Orla and Char peaced out, Miori, Meruru, Kallin, and Yuuna are all indies.

>> No.41547598

>>41547298
Westerners are slaves. The cost of living and their massive debt is so high they have no choice to take normal jobs and struggle to survive.
Meanwhile all these smaller countries have a low cost of living where you can actually get away with living on donations.
For example: Purin had her house and farm heavily damaged in a hurricane. Fans raised $6000 for her and that was enough to fully repair her house. restart the farm, and still have money left over.

>> No.41547683

>>41547298
Theyre all on Twitch.

>> No.41547765

>>41547094 (me)
I forgot myHoloTV was a thing, my bad

>> No.41548113

>>41547574
Orla and Char still have some vague shadow of a Twitch presence.

>> No.41548373

>>41547298
It's this >>41547683, but blue triangle fever convinced everyone on this board that twitch vtubers are all bad.

>> No.41548546

>>41547094
I don't know about jewbas, they seem to give too much to the girls and I can't see how they end up making profit out of it so it's most likely that they're just running a huge scam going on underneath that will get exposed eventually

>> No.41548609

>>41548373
The funny thing is that half of the current vtuber corpos both small and big came from Twitch

>> No.41548649

>>41547298
Asians born and raised in the the US/Canada aren't ESLs. Americans born and raised int he US might be, though. Would of, could of, should of.

>> No.41549158

>>41541746
My white cock throbs at the idea of colonizing this tiny Filipino womb.

>> No.41549174

>>41544645
>the first
Buddy, I got news for you

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>>41532289
Maybe for health issues? She was always dying whenever I opened her stream; one time she even streamed from her bed semi-awake

>> No.41549501

>>41549235
Too much dick, please understand

>> No.41549594

>>41547298
17% of the world population speaks English. 5~6ish% of that are EOP, the other 11~12% are all ESL. It's statistically more likely for any one who can speak English to live outside of the UK, US or Australia/NZ.

>> No.41549674

So uhhh.. who is left in tsunderia again?

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>>41532841
>>41533111
>>41541180
do you know small corps usually have nude toggles for their L2D?

>> No.41549739

>>41533111
i just want kio to make art for purin like he does for ririmu

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>>41549696
They do?

>> No.41550220

>>41549952
yes
https://youtu.be/fHSpDlha3c4?t=1253

for holo and niji it would be a desaster if gura accidently clicked off her clothes but for them its viewbait.

>> No.41550492

>>41549674
TsunDream and Hanabi

>> No.41550822

>>41550492
well shit.. haven't watched full Tsundream collabs besides the first, but they had mad chemistry between everyon, it would be a shame to see them all go their own ways.

>> No.41550936

>>41550822
They haven't done a full gen collab in months. Tomo and Kazu cut down their streaming to two, maybe three times a week. Nen doesn't stream at all anymore.

>> No.41554958

>>41545213
Fishman will save them

>> No.41555120

>>41554958
Don't you have girls to make cry?

>> No.41555284

>>41541746
Looks like perfect material for a twitch redesign.

>> No.41555807

>>41532760
>”if you don’t know every indie known to man you’re a holodrone”
Nigga I only know amiya from tsunderia, eat a dick

>> No.41555914

>>41554958
I wonder if he actually wants them at this point. None of them are doing that amazingly.

>> No.41556033

>>41555914
Purin hasn't increased her CCV in a year and a half at least. For some reason she's literally incapable of growing

>> No.41556186

>>41556033
It's like her mom's dying wish was for her to get a real job her dad would be proud of and it cursed her channel

>> No.41556305

>>41556033
>Purin hasn't increased her CCV in a year and a half at least
You're wrong there, since she got the model upgrade she went from a 2view to a pretty consistent 3view, and it's not just because of the model itself but because she noticeably became happier after the upgrade.

>> No.41556908

>>41545213
Did all of them get fished by others or simply retired? Calling this GRIM is a understatement

>> No.41556941

>>41556908
all retired or indie

>> No.41557138

>>41556908
>Purin, Char, Kana, Kallin, Meru, Miori, and Yuuna all went indie and are still active
>Orla went indie and is now semi-retired
>Urara retired completely
>Ria became Rosemi
Overall it was a pretty good result for their fans because almost all of them are still around, even the retired ones show up every now and then.

>> No.41557730

>>41544724
>pippaniggers are most of Lisa's chat
cope

>> No.41557764

>>41545213
Hanabi sex.

>> No.41557893

>>41532463
Korone ripoff design without any of the charm of the real one.

>> No.41558367

>>41545213
>lets make gen3 mixed

>> No.41558619

>>41558367
At the time it wasn't a horrible idea. They had all of their talents, excluding Kana and Ria but those barely counted against tsunderia. They were going to be the first male vtubers in the EN corpo sphere. But Niji stole that thunder and got Luxiem. It's just been downhill since.

>> No.41559008

>>41548546
https://twitter.com/AvielBasin/status/1609948057868566528

>> No.41559168

>>41559008
Those tweets are part of their marketing, anon. Don't be stupid.

>> No.41559197

>>41547574
Meru love!
Postmates love!
Everybody love!

>> No.41559239

>>41558619
They were the first male vtubers, they debuted six weeks before Luxiem. They just never found an audience.

>> No.41559292

>>41559239
Pretty much the story of Tsunderia - the first EN vtubing corpo.

>> No.41560537

>>41559239
Not true, MyHoloTV's mixed gen came before Tsunderia's.

>> No.41561395

>>41536105
Nothing happened and that is the actual problem with the company. Inactive passive CEO who can't even be bothered to ship out PO Box packages to talents. Two gens of MANAGERS have now quit because of this.

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>>41532289
I am going to save Purin

>> No.41561748

>>41559168
They could've easily get rid of their HE branch all together considering their new EN one is doing 10 times better than them but instead they're gonna redebut them under a new name, a corporation that doesn't care would've easily just ignored them until they all graduated eventually

>> No.41561761

>>41559239
>Tsunderia debuts as the first EN vtuber company
>Never finds enough audience to make a big impact in the industry, overshadowed by other smallcorpos

>Debuts male EN vtubers before the big two
>they never find an audience

starting to see a pattern

>> No.41562100

>>41536187
>allowed to keep everything when you leave
>black company
lmao

>> No.41562122

>>41541277
>I wouldn't wish that to any decently talented chuuba
>sending them to be exploited by jews instead
really nigger?

>> No.41562157

>>41550492
fucking hanabi check your messages more often

>> No.41562192

>>41561748
Didn't they fire one of the HE girls live?

>> No.41562379

>>41557893
KORONE INVENTED DOGS

>> No.41562384

>>41541746
UOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH

>> No.41562584

she said on stream that NOTHING would change and giggled, subtly roasting tsunderia for not doing shit. seems like a great company.

>> No.41562761

>>41562192
2 Hebrew girls graduated.
Emi Suika did because she got over her social anxiety and managed to finally get into art school
Neo Sparkles just said she was moving to another country, probably figured out streaming wasn't for her
The rest of the HE branch is still streaming, they'll redebut after EN2

>> No.41562876

Can't help but feel tsundream would have done better if it was male/female only.
Ami and Lisa are both solo as fuck in their vtubing style, and male vtubers so far have thrived by making themselves look cool by collabing with tons of girls. Tomo and Kazu have lowkey been denied that.

>> No.41563117

>>41562876
Does anyone even watch tsundream outside of Ami and Lisa?

>> No.41563147

>>41562761
Why would they think slapping a new sticker on it would help?

>> No.41563255

>>41545213
so Ria got the best deal of them all out of this

>> No.41563277

I remember anon once said that Purin would never leave and would go down with Tsunderia...

>> No.41563333

>>41542721
How is Phase with game permissions? I doubt Ami would join any corpo that prevents her from streaming 30 year old MS-DOS games

>> No.41563413

>>41544103
All the other corpos are desperate to find their own Luxiem

>> No.41563669

>>41563333
>How is Phase with game permissions
Just like every other non-japanese corp, they can stream what they want.

>> No.41563704

>>41563333
They're not a Japanese company so they don't need to get permissions in the same way Cover does. They're set up in Canada, and follow Canadian law, not Japanese.

Also, witnessed.

>> No.41563854

>>41563117
nah they are 2views. Nen because of her awkward non-binary shit, the other two because of being mildly isolated males.

>> No.41564295

>>41563277
Tsunderia is going down so it checks out

>> No.41565433

>>41536187
Sure if they are really streaming just for fun and don't care about numbers at all.

>> No.41565564

>>41532289
Ahem, EN3 SOON? Just kidding.

>> No.41565863

>>41541746
I don't know, too much fetal alcohol syndrome for me.

>> No.41566070

>>41547094
I don't know if the Idol business model is sustainable long term. It's nice to look at all the money bags they pour into it, but will they be able to make that money back? The cut the company gets from the income is also a factor.

>> No.41566160

>>41532289
Do people really care about the korone knock-off?

>> No.41566382

>>41547574
> None of the other Tsun girls went corpo
There was one.

>> No.41566427

>>41547574
Rosemi-sama...

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Lmao she saw this thread

>> No.41566566
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>>41566431

>> No.41566752

>>41566431
Meds. But also... TENMA IF YOU REALLY ARE HERE, DO HANDCAM STREAM AGAIN, PLEASE! I WANT TO SEE YOUR BEAUTIFUL HANDS AGAIN!

>> No.41567102

>>41566431
She said my fanart was retarded once so she's pretty great in my book.

>> No.41567480

>>41549235
She said it was because of her friend being sick or something.

>> No.41567720

>>41549235
>Graduates for health issues
>Immediately schedules almost a full week of streams
Yeah that ain't it

>> No.41568266

>>41566431
i liked her alien isolation playthrough

>> No.41568340

>>41566431
If I had a dollar for every time I'd seen a post like this right before the person left the company in question I'd have a few dollars

>> No.41568345

Selen is fat

>> No.41568414

>>41549235
She's had the coof twice, maybe 3 times. First time nearly unironically took her life. That was when her mom died of the same illness. While they were both in the same hospital.

>> No.41568468

>>41532289
>Phase is unironically full of whores and cucks.
Why would they go there? Why go to a corpo at all Lisa and Ami both have semi-decent followings why not go full indie and not line some faggots pocket with your hard earned money

>> No.41568959

>>41566431
Phase Connect are nobodies. Hololive is the top dawg

>> No.41569265

>>41566431
tenma doesn't come here, when pippa tried to get her to she said this place was dumb

>> No.41569338

>>41566070
Idol claims their cut is one of the best in the industry on their website and the talents despite not being able to disclose the exact percentage seem quite happy about, but yeah long term unless they get crazy profits from the girls I can't see how they can gain all the invested money back

>> No.41569604

>>41569338
>Idol claims their cut is one of the best in the industry on their website
That's the problem, last time a company offered a large percentage to the talents, Cyberlive happened. The higher the percentage the talents get, the more money they need to earn to keep the company afloat.

>> No.41569666

>>41569265
sure, sure

>> No.41569740

>>41569604
idol doesn't seem to have a drama filled cesspit for managers like Cyberlive did. Also idol doesn't seem to let the talents keep the models if they leave.

>> No.41569760

>>41563147
I think they are correct when thinking the Hebrew branding is a debuff (The Hebrew community turned out to be mostly hostile towards Vtubers), specially when all of their streams are basically in English by now.
But honestly the fact HE branch had no streaming experience before getting into Idol it's very noticeable, specially now that they hired actually entertaining people. I doubt the redebut it's gonna do much for them but I appreciate them trying either way since there's also something charming about watching underdogs fighting against all odds and succeeding in the end

>> No.41569908

>>41569740
>Also idol doesn't seem to let the talents keep the models if they leave.
The truth is, Cyberlive didn't either, the talents had to buy out their models before leaving.

>> No.41570161

>>41561748
Get some help. You mindless andrew tate enjoyer. Why do you fall the most basic marketing tactics? If he wanted to do something for HE he should have done so proactively, not after EN has success and the pressure and grief were obviously catching on from the HE branch.

>> No.41570424

>>41563147
i did checked their stream the first time they debutted and the jews in the chat were some of the most vile piece of shit i ever seen with how aggressive they were towards any kind of English content.
The company also did very little to try help them, now that the EN branch is somewhat doing fine right now they remember they have still 3 HE girls

>> No.41570538

>>41570424
Probably the same reason why most indog vtubers stream in english

>> No.41570665

Anyone else that Slugma tweet?

>> No.41570677

>>41570538
Nope, SEA people don't drop their SEA chuuba because they speak english.
The HE girls don't have any whatsoever hebrew fanbase

>> No.41570736

>>41570538
Switching between two languages as a vtuber never works

>> No.41570895

>>41570736
The jew fanbase on their debut wanted 0 english content

>> No.41571056

>>41536190
Proof?

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>>41554958
He doesn't want males. See if he picks up Purin and if it manages to get Lisa and Amiya to jump off the sinking ship and become sad girls.

>> No.41571214

>>41569338
So far 3/5 EN girls have pretty good whales that have been pumping with both memberships, superchats and streamlabs donos. Juna in particular has 2 oilers who dropped 3-4k combined on her last night during a regular drawing stream. It'll be interesting to see if this is just short term gains or if they will grow and continue to have supportive fanbases as the year goes on.

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>>41547094
>Phase members have made fun of their own CEO many times in the past because of dumb decisions, the girls are better managers than him
And he does a U-turn soon after when the girls and their fans kick up about it.

If only he would just stop being a retard about Lia's CWC stream though. Part 2 is sorely wanted.

>>41570665
I wonder if any will take her advice. Shame she doesn't want to be a manager for them though, they could do with another.

>> No.41571333

>>41571232
I don't think he meant that tweet, apparently she posted something just now and immediately deleted it

>> No.41571350

>>41566160
Korone is not a demon or a loli.

>> No.41571484

>>41541746
Finally someone posts who the vtuber is

>> No.41571723

>>41571333
She posted something about talking to a lawyer and said "thanks tsunderia" but deleted it.

>> No.41572003

>>41571484
Somebody really should have put a youtube link to her channel into the OP with how stupid catalog tourists are.

>> No.41572116

>>41555284
She just got this redesign a few months ago after being Flip Korone for about two and a half years.

>> No.41572196

i kind of hate that people now push the idea that PC is the perfect company that will save vtubing. they have a lot of their own issues as pippa especially has alluded to. she has literally been close to graduating multiple times because she doesn't want to be part of it anymore. fishman doesn't have bottomless pockets either. stop treating him as some sort of messiah please, lol.

>> No.41572246

>>41572196
You can't have a serious conversation with shillfags, specially poach beggars so don't waste your time

>> No.41572556

>>41572196
unironically, the only corpo with a serious business plan outside the big 2 and that association that is vshojo is Idol.
It's just how it is, and i still seriously need to know from where the fuck the jew gets the money to run that operation

>> No.41572621

>>41569760
>>41570424
Sorry, I don't know anything about the HE side. So with the redebut they'll absorb them into the EN branch then? Will they get more members to make the wave 5 people again?

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>>41572196
>been close to graduating multiple times
Pippa was "close to graduating" in the first months of Phase because Fish was the only manager back then and he is a bit autistic.
This hasn't been an issue ever since they hired Muumi and Pippa these days is a proud and outspoken Phase Connect shill.
>literally
Why is this word always followed by bullshit?

Fish's pockets are fine, the talents are making good money and it hasn't been all that long that Tsunderia and Phase were the same size. Nowadays their biggest talent wouldn't even be in top 10 of Phase.
Why be dishonest like that?

>> No.41572708

>>41571056
Woosh.

>> No.41572715

>>41532463
Walmart Korone

>> No.41572745

>>41568414
Poor girl's lost three close family members in the same year due to coof complications.

>> No.41572825

>>41556033
late to this, but her menhera stream schedule makes keeping up with her hard

>> No.41572845

>>41572715
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FszYWuSfC2I

>> No.41572846

>>41572556
I don't where they get it and I don't care as long as they keep doing things right, hopefully they'll keep looking at the state of the industry and adopt the good parts of it

>> No.41572865

>>41572825
There was a good while where it was a coinflip on if she would even show up to a scheduled stream. So I stopped waiting for them and would only watch if I saw her live.

>> No.41572899

>>41572845
>walmart towa

>> No.41572991

EN small corpo sphere:

idol and Phase
>seems to know what they are doing mostly (idol a little more so)

Tsunderia
>dead

Kawaii
>seem to be doing well with the strategy of attracting butthurt hololive unicorns

Prism
>seems completely stagnant, not sure if being bought by Sony made things better or worse

akioAir
>started out really strong but ran into issues with their talents, several have taken extended breaks due to work/school balance issues and one of them graduated when she realized being a vtuber was not the same as being a VA. Big shame since I liked all the girls

everybody else
>black companies or corpos so small you don't even know they existed until they go under

>> No.41573024

>>41572621
They will be rebranded as "Origin" and there's no knowledge about what their plans are when it comes to refilling the 2 empty spots, although I hardly doubt they would pull something like that

>> No.41573197

>>41571723
Multiple people seem to be corroborating this so we might be headed for a truly glorious final yab

>> No.41573415

>>41566431
Tenma love

>> No.41573430

I don't know why but it makes me really happy knowing for a fact (without any proof whatsoever) that many vtubers lurk /vt/ some probably posting often, some falseflagging and so on
And you KNOW a lot of them do. Not a majority or anything just A LOT. A lot more than you would think.
I don't know why it makes me happy either but oh well

>> No.41573709

>>41573197
This >>41538534
Sooner than you think

>> No.41573744

>>41538534
1/28/2022 10PM EST.

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I know you browse/make these threads purin
keep treating and playing with people's feeling like items and for granted, you'll get things coming back at you

>> No.41574091

>>41573709
I mean, it's kinda obvious thinking about it, isn't it? It's a miracle they're still here, all things considered. Once they do, I just hope Ami, Lisa and Hanabi land on their feet. I'd hate to lose them after all this time.

>> No.41574313

>>41572647
Go back to the "homeland", kiwifag.

>> No.41574362

>>41573761
Ok PPP

>> No.41574651

>>41573430
/vt/ broke gura. Also, so many mention watching clips. If you want your comments read cheaper than a SC, put it in a comment on a clip.

>> No.41574799

>>41535843
This is the reason most corpos don't allow the chuubas to own their models/identities. Once the contract is up, there's no incentive to stay unless they think that the affiliation is still bringing them new supporters. Tsunderia is so low-profile that it's hardly worth giving up 40% of your revenue.

>> No.41575088

>>41572991
>Prism
>seems completely stagnant, not sure if being bought by Sony made things better or worse
Probably worse because chances are NOTHING will change for them outside of the initial changes. On the other hand they had stupid restrictions before Sony like needing a certain amount of subs to be allowed to open memberships.
>Kawaii
>seem to be doing well with the strategy of attracting butthurt hololive unicorns
They just kinda ended up as that when it wasn't the original intention since they have been around well before Niji EN men auditions were announced. No one could expect Holo EN to go the way they have well over a year ago.

Tsunderia should just close up now. They were never equipped for this and corpos that aren't negligent and breaking through.

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I know you browse/make these threads purin, and browse other nasty boards
keep treating and playing with people's feeling like items and for granted, you'll get things coming back at you

>> No.41575157

>>41540049
Kek, Hanababy.

>> No.41575246

>>41572647
>why is this word always followed by bullshit?
People use adverbs to unconsciously lie to themselves and others. There’s a whole school of thought on the topic but once you start looking for it you will notice its frequency. If you make an effort to remove adverbs from your writing you will be aware of how often you’re equivocating or exaggerating for effect.

>> No.41575600

>>41550936
oh no.. isn't it that they stream over on twitch or something? kazu is fairly active on twitter

>> No.41575679

>>41575600
Kazu is on Twitch. The other four on Youtube. Which is kind of weird.

>> No.41575754

>>41572991
Shit, I didn't even know Fen from akio quit. She was my favourite

>> No.41575980

>>41575679
Nah, it's always been like that. Before Tsundream only Miori was streaming primarily on youtube

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>>41575157

>> No.41579828

>>41532289
Is there a backup of her content somewhere?

>> No.41579918

>>41579828
She's not graduating.

>> No.41579947

>>41579828
Not as far as I know, but none of it's getting deleted right now anyway. Now would be a good time to start archiving everything though.

>> No.41579981

>>41576466
She’s gonna lowkey run Tsunderia as the only remaining member.

>> No.41580046

>>41576466
when will she find out?

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>>41571121

>> No.41580549

>>41580046
She knows about the managers resigning this time at least

>> No.41580588

>>41580284
Fishman worship is incredibly cringe

>> No.41580644

>>41572991
AkioAir has plans for a new gen by March/April. Auditions came and went.

>> No.41580659

>>41579828
She’s keeping her model and all the videos on her channel.

>> No.41580685

>>41580588
You know the only reason they do it is because people react the way they do?

>> No.41580787

>>41580588
It’s funny because /pcg/ shits on him all the time

>> No.41581306

>>41541746
Wow, what a hottie.

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>>41562379
Did you even see her first model? It was pretty much Korone

>> No.41581412

>>41581320
That blue triangle really does some mental damage.

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>>41580588
>>41580787
/pcg/ and all his talents.

>> No.41581533

>>41581320
KORONE INVENTED THE COLOR ORANGE

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>>41581496

>> No.41581647

>>41581320
The rrat seems to be that Purin got her model first but debuted after Korone.

>> No.41582392

>>41532289
How did Tsunderia fuck up so badly? They got into the EN corpo game before HoloEN while Kana and Char gave them a good head-start in fame.

>> No.41582688

This is prime unadulterated cunny.

>> No.41582735

>>41582392
The CEO is so insanely lazy and stupid that it fucked the company from top to bottom.

>> No.41582738

>>41582392
CEO busy jerking off or something idk

>> No.41585125

>>41582738
The ceo is getting sued

>> No.41585440

>>41585125
The way the tweet was worded makes it unclear who's suing who

>> No.41585598

>>41574362
what's 3P?

>> No.41585783

>>41585598
Tsunderia's CEO
Said to be doing literally nothing except of playing TCGs

>> No.41585896

>>41585783
He's calling himself Jack now

>> No.41585946

>>41549696
Pretty sure most corpos have a nude to make it easier for outfit designs, iirc Ame once said Gura came online with her model naked before they officially debuted.

>> No.41586026

>>41585946
I don't think ami has a nude model. She would probably use it for her costumes like the one she has on today

>> No.41586112

>>41581320
Looks better than the current one

>> No.41586329

>>41586112
I agree but she wanted cunny

>> No.41587759

>>41572196
>close to graduating multiple times
No she hasn't. Which times? Most of the "multiple graduation attempts" is due to her own fuckups and tumultuous relationship with her Phase members. If anything, Fishman is the most chill CEO of absolutely any vtubing agency. What other company lets you do Chris-chan streams, shit on management, and give the creative freedom he does?

>> No.41589304

>>41587759
If by chill you mean a raging fascist then yeah.

>> No.41590813

>>41587759
Keep on slurping that canadian cock shillchama

>> No.41591507

>>41587759
well they shit on the fish but seem to really like muumi

>> No.41593483

>>41585125
For real?

>> No.41593523

>>41593483
Possibly or he's sueing slugma, she just met with a lawyer over business with tsunderia

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>>41593483
We don't know exactly what's going on yet but it's safe to say things are about to get a lot more interesting

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femanons add me up on discord jibunwoh#0201
and talk about interests like creative hobbies /m/ shows lolis kemono girls vtubers(and laugh at deadbeats)fantasy the 4 heroes of light SFM animations females from the DoA games pokemon vidya and weeb stuff yuuka meiling patchouli shion yuugii from touhou megaman monster hunter FU final the rwby anime and other stuff.

>> No.41593799

Purin had an illegal contract with the company. The CEO thought tearing up the contract and letting her go would save him from legal action. Urara assisted Purin in starting legal action anyway. The CEO/PPP is now suing Urara for tortious interference and Purin is suing the CEO for forcing her to sign an illegal contract under threats of leaving her with no support or assets.
Source: The voices in my head.

>> No.41593903

>>41593799
Yup, that's pretty much true. Glad this finally came out.
Purin literally had no contract.

>> No.41594094

>>41593799
Are you a malkavian? Cause your insanity isn't public knowledge (yet). Only reason I know anything about this is because I was friend with Purin.

>> No.41594099

>>41593799
>Tsunderia dies because the CEO couldn't resist enslaving a tiny Filipino mesugaki

>> No.41594207

>>41594099
History repeats itself twice once as tragedy second as farce

>> No.41594247

>>41594094
Orla...

>> No.41594271

>Tsunderia dies before I can join and fuck Lisa.
C'MON MAN.

>> No.41594308

>>41594094
He's probably a lawyer or has lawyer friends in LA

>> No.41594340

>>41594094
I might be. I legitimately have a sun allergy and the voices have been right all my life.
I've also do/have done some work for two of the (former) Tsun talents but I didn't hear about any of this from them.

>> No.41594394

>>41594271
I'm sure she'll still be around

>> No.41594465

>>41594340
Please get me a date with Ami

>> No.41594524

>>41594247
Not Orla. If I told you who I was your reaction would likely be "No fucking way, actually it makes a lot of sense" (if you were an oldfag that is).

>> No.41594617

>>41594524
Ohhhhhhhh

>> No.41594687

>>41594524
I knew S-train was always the good guy

>> No.41594730

>>41594524
What did you do for them atleast?

>> No.41594740

>>41594687
Not S-Train either. He was an absolute asshole and lied to management several times to isolate Purin.

>> No.41594792

>>41594740
I thought so, but it seemed funny to say that

>> No.41594861

>>41594740
>Lying about S-train for attention
Hmmm, I wonder who this could be

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>>41532685
Someone who streams

>> No.41595024

>>41594524
Goddamn you're based, chances of tsun living?

>> No.41595068

>>41594465
Send her a powerpoint on why she should let you take her out.

>> No.41595130

>>41595068
Where do you think lumi sent it? That is so adorable of her

>> No.41595155

>>41595068
NTA but he would probably give Amiya more attention than The Mask 2

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fem.anons add me up on discord jibunwoh#0201
and talk about interests like creative hobbies /m/ shows lolis kemono girls vtubers(and laugh at deadbeats)fantasy the 4 heroes of light SFM animations females from the DoA games pokemon vidya and weeb stuff yuuka meiling patchouli shion yuugii from touhou megaman monster hunter FU final the rwby anime and other stuff.

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>>41594524
Despite being a Tsunderia oldfag I am incapable of dissociating VTM references from Orla anymore, so I will never figure out who you are

>> No.41595399

>>41595271
Has this ever worked for you?

>> No.41595521

>>41595399
Some guy messaged him with advise on how to get a gf and he didn't want it he just legitimately wants to make female friends

>> No.41595573

>>41594524
The sugar daddy girl?

>> No.41595696

>>41595024
Honestly no fucking idea. Last time I was involved in this mess, Purin wanted to stick with Tsunderia.
>>41595390
You can just call me Peppa. That should ring a few bells if you can put 2 and 2 together.

>> No.41595711 [DELETED] 

>>41595521
why would he post cropped porn if he wants female friends

>> No.41595914

>>41593799
>The CEO thought tearing up the contract and letting her go would save him from legal action
>The CEO/PPP is now suing Urara for tortious interference
Hypothetically, if he'd both terminated the contract beforehand (and it was illegal anyway) wouldn't that make trying to sue for tortious interference completely laughable?

>> No.41596082

>>41595914
The tortious interference is for Urara suggesting Ria leave for NijiEN.

>> No.41596108

>>41595696
Buta?

>> No.41596179

>>41595696
I know who you are and it’s not that hard to identify you from posting style. Purin doxxing returns and rrats surface. Who else could it be?

>> No.41596227

>>41596179
Those weren't me.

>> No.41596308

>>41596082
>Almost two years later
Bit slow on the uptake there

>> No.41596365

>>41596227
Oh Buta, no matter how hard you try to deny it… Don’t you have anything better to do? You’ve been at this for a year now.

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41596491

fem.anons add me up on discord jibunwoh#0201
and talk about interests like creative hobbies /m/ shows lolis kemono girls vtubers(and laugh at deadbeats)fantasy the 4 heroes of light SFM animations females from the DoA games pokemon vidya and weeb stuff yuuka meiling patchouli shion yuugii from touhou megaman monster hunter FU final the rwby anime and other stuff.

>> No.41596513

I guess he's still the lesser of two evils even if he's a piece of shit.

>> No.41596525

>>41596365
I haven't checked the Tsunderia thread in over 5 months. I am here by pure coincidence after seeing a post about Purin leaving Tsunderia in front page of the catalogue.

>> No.41596598

>>41596525
Is that what you tell yourself? Have a great life.

>> No.41596631

>>41596598
Who are you anyway?

>> No.41596685

>>41596598
Just give us a hint

>> No.41596720

>>41596631
Your bestest friend, Jon!

>> No.41596743

>>41594340
Which members have boyfriends? Kazu gave me brain worms

>> No.41596832

>>41596720
No, you're not. John only wrote in lowercase on 4chan. He also never wrote his name as "Jon".

>> No.41596860

>>41596743
All of them, even Kazu and Tomo.

>> No.41596978

>>41596832
And why wouldn’t I change? I also don’t shit up the chats anymore.

>> No.41597081

>>41596860
For real? I don't wanna unmember anymore chuubas. That one moving to Norway hit hard

>> No.41597114

>>41561503
i didnt write this

>> No.41597197

>>41596978
I don't care for your mind games and I don't care who you are.

>> No.41597262

>>41596832
>thinks he can identify people on 4chan
ure full of urself dude

>> No.41597585

>>41596525
well ima sleep but keep telling yourself that bro.

>> No.41598164

https://strawpoll.com/polls/PKgl36NDQnp

>> No.41598363

>>41598164
>Ami is the first do anything (joke answer)
She suspiciously is taking Saturday off instead of Sunday this week for some reason, with a members stream on Sunday.

>> No.41598506

>>41598363
She's hinted alot about change coming and will talk to us about the tsunderia issue soon she said

>> No.41598536

>>41598363
Hmmm, would be nice but could easily just be that she has family stuff on Saturday and wanted to make up the members day by doing it on Sunday instead

>> No.41598586

i think i missed a chapter of the buta saga but i'm too afraid to ask

>> No.41599196

>>41597585
Goodnight Purin.

>> No.41600080
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41600080

>>41580787
It's out of love. Mostly. Kinda weird how some people get outraged over it.

>> No.41600689

>>41566070
Pretty sure the idea is to treat the first few gens super well and hope it takes off and if it does get big and they have a pick of the litter with talent, then the next gens get worse deals

>> No.41602387

>>41594099
Who could, truthfully speaking? I'd give anything for a breeding den with Purin in it.

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