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>Fauna choking and losing viewers because of itRIP the 9k dream
how long is this game
>>41528212I honestly thought she would struggle to get 7k with this, so not to bad everything considered.
This month Mumei proves that she's #1 CouncilRyS. And by extension, EN #2.
>>41528213You didn't have to leak the Giftcord cookbook like that, anon.
Aia tier soon
>>41528256somehow 6-10 hours according to google. So she is gonna be playing it next week as well.
I think I'm turning into a schizo, after checking out /wAIfu/ I've spent the last few days having cybersex with all the chatbots
>>41528336>Spamming collabs and buff shitEh.
>>41528345nah Aia can hit 3k kek
>>41528345finally, a worthy raspberry competitor
>>41528336She's going to be pumping out buff content for a couple of weeks.
so nijien global gold today huh
>>41528359You missed out during the golden age period which was the first three days the service went live.Shit was like a looking into the future, current chatbots are lobotomized as hell.
Sorry Fauna, but its Moom time soon.
>>41528345At least he's not Aster tier.
Vesper's wife forced him to graduate since he was getting too involved with Kronni. Also, he is involved in underground weapons-based fight clubs
>Mumeicraft >Only 3k waitingSub 10k incoming lol
>>41528345Has he had a single unique or interesting streaming idea since debut? At least Tempus 1 came out of the gate with something, with Magni and Vesper. While not super impressive at least Axel/Altare had signing and sweaty FPS as their thing. What the fuck does this guy have? He has a shota model, big fucking deal. Anything else?
>>41528377With the power of natural inclination, you mean.
>>41528475I want to push down this brat and correct her
>>41528487He still on his first month, he can get there someday
>>41528503>With the power of natural inclinationEven with double natural inclines she can't hit 3k nowadays.
>>41528212LITERALLY Aia tier.
>>41528489gura is preggo with vesper's kid. The old man is going to get baybladed....
>>41528345He’s too tryhard.This shit would fly in Nijisanji, but most Holo viewers aren’t looking for cringe every 5 seconds.His personality is all over the place,He’s LARPING as this shota cockgobbler, but his zatsus clearly shows he’s some experienced VA.
>>41528345around 1,6k median, this shit debuted like what? 2 weeks ago?
>>41528496Until Fauna ends, yeah probably. I think she'll hover around 6-8k then jump to 10-11k over a period of time after Fauna ends. Also depends if she outlasts Wrestlesanji.
>>41528584Literally the Doppio of TempusAnd judging by Doppio's numbers that shit barely flies in NijiEN either
>>41528213How you know that anon?
>>41528571raid: retention legends
>>41528634kind of them to transliterate the chinese characters for her desu
4.5k waiting for Mumei
>>41528213I am offended that you'd suggest I'm a nijinigger for shitting on Kronii.
Tempiss was a fucking mistake
>no Moom delay
>>41528345You should also screencap some his recent VOD numbers
>>41528785Shit got serious
>>41528785Is that a bad omen?
>>4152870812k after fauna funnel
green whore still holding 8.5khow did she even get that many on that shit game
>>41528846IF Fauna funnels.
>>41528625As least Doppio brings excitement to collabs, since people want to see how the other's react to him, on top of the weird cringe things he'll come up with next.
>>41528887Fauna and Mumei are the most likely to funnel to each other
>>41528936No I mean there's a non-zero chance Fauna is still streaming by the time Mumei ends
>>41528887Fauna would tell people to watch Mumei at the end of her stream
>More EN members playing MC this weekWHO???
>mumei: some other EN members will be playing minecraft this weekmembers? who is it?
>>41528846I like watching Fauna.I don't care to go to Mumei's stream after.
>>41528936Faumei is real
>>41522690This is hilarious. If he leaves tempiss is deader than dead
If EN stars management were actually competent would you unicorn troons ease up on them?
>>41529005Fauna, Kiara, maybe Ina. Longshot for Kronii, Bae, or Ame.
>>41529005>>41529011Fauna.
Moom was watching Chloe. Why do we hate her again?
>>41528995So true.
>>41529011Mori the Minecraft lover
>>41528785Kek. What is this from?
>>41528995classic gray
>>41529011>>41529005GURA
>>41529005I'm like 90% sure Fauna is gonna put it on her schedule
A big chinese investor left inchikara? What gives?
>>41528995By allah...a gr*y
>>41529072wdym we love the stinky orca here
Another Tsunderia jumps from the sinking shiphttps://twitter.com/tsunderia_us/status/1617341472914677763
>>41528156SILVER>1) 72,970: Pekora (Hololive) Metronome tournament lottery>2) 96,661: Miko (Hololive) New year outfit>3) 72,185: Miko (Hololive) WWE2K22>4) 55,274: Luna (Hololive) 3rd Year Anniversary Live>5) 33,083: Marine (Hololive) Marika practice>6) 37,734: Pekora (Hololive) Marika practice>7) 97,685: Nijisanji (Nijisanji) Niji Mahjong>8) 85,290: Nijisanji (Nijisanji) Niji Mahjong Day2>9) 35,687: Ina (Hololive) CHAT return stream>10) 23,860: Korone (Hololive) Street Fighter Champion Edition>11) 35,703: Toya (Nijisanji) Toya stream*>12) 41,670: Miko (Hololive) Soul Calibur 6>13) 32,532: Miko (Hololive) GeoGuessr>14) 56,103: Elira (Nijisanji) 3D reveal stream>15) 59,439: Korone (Hololive) PekKorone Ao Oni speedrun>16) 33,896: Miko (Hololive) FC Super Mario Bros>17) 38,368: Marine (Hololive) Singing>18) 35,646: Pekora (Hololive) Minecraft>19) 59,935: Sophia Valentine (Nijisanji) Debut Stream>20) 49,441: Shishido Akari (Nijisanji) Debut Stream>21) 45,394: Towa (Hololive) CR Cup APEX>22) 37,691: Suisei (Hololive) Short Utawaku guerilla> PER COMPANY16x: Hololive6x: Nijisanji> PER STREAMER5x: Miko3x: Pekora2x: Nijisanji, Korone, Marine1x: Luna, Ina, Toya, Elira, Sophia Valentine, Shishido Akari, Towa, Suisei>Your voice has been heard. Your wish has been granted.Comet locks in Silver for holol!
>>41528995based
>>41529072moom watches a lot of jp, this isn't new
Oh, Fauna's ending....and she's gonna play this garbage again. Yuck.
Fauna ending soon
>>41529143In their own words "We don't see them producing a superstar in the near future". Might just be an excuse to sell at x3 the price but who knows
>>41528634Did he just call her fat?
>>41529005Ame already said she wants to play MC
If vesper got into a bad fight with others, what would you do as management? Termination seems too much.
FauFau waited for Moom to get started. I fucking love these two
>>41529170It's over. I don't think they're even going to debut their new Gen. Those auditions ended in like August or something. I hope the spider girl can end up somewhere decent but most of her fans seem to think she'll end up as an indie.
Is Suisei's TFT slowing down?I hope it can get 10M in a week but it seems unlikely now
>>41529272It's her Sunday stream until she completes it.
>>41529143They sold 11% of the total available stock and outright said they didn't think the company could find more hits
>>41529051The reason why unicorns hate male vtubers has nothing to do with what kind of management they have. What are you even talking about?
>>41529143Investors realized Anycolor isn’t a tech stock but a talent agency
>>41528634That's a canto zhang (likely to be HK/expat).
>>41529170Fuck. But it was inevitable. Without the OGs Char and Kana, there's no point of Purin staying.
>>41528156>>41528197Nicccccccccceeeee
>>41529072>Moom was watching ChloeI'm a Mumei anti now
>>41529316Native American style desert peyote trip like the one in King of the Hill with Dale.If he doesn't have a spirit dream he's suspended for a month.
Just came back from the hospital, how was the tempus anniversary?
>>41529005BigFish
>>41529170100% dead
>>41529204Nijisanji won.
>>41529204Where's the gold list?
Before the funnel. 7.7k in 10mins
>>41529272Hey even if it is a weak game I'm just glad she consistently finishes games.
>>41529170Great value Korone...
>>41529343Did they sell on the pump or did they get rugpulled?
>>41529314
>>41528995Poorfag, opinion discarded
>>41528156BRONZE>1) 71,063: Subaru (Hololive) NamaSubaru Totsumachi>2) 50,749: Nijisanji (Nijisanji) Niji Poker Chase>3) 68,622: Pekora (Hololive) FGO>4) 45,007: Hayato (Nijisanji) MtG?*>5) 31,935: Miko (Hololive) Marika practice w/ Suisei>6) 26,315: Korone (Hololive) Hokuto no Ken Fit Boxing*>7) 87,794: Nijisanji (Nijisanji) Niji Mahjong>8) 64,725: Usada Pekora (Hololive) Important Announcement>9) 28,114: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) Apex>10) 22,497: Koyori (Hololive) SEKIRO #6>11) 28,030: Noel (Hololive) SUPER MARIO PARTY SUPERSTARS w/ NoeFure & Takamori>12) 29,480: Hibari (Nijisanji) New outfit reveal>13) 29,363: Voltaction (Nijisanji) Quiz show*>14) 37,924: Marine (Hololive) MariFure Scratch Lotto>15) 36,465: Sukoya Kana (Nijisanji) 3D stage Katashiro Reflect*>16) 25,084: Kanata (Hololive) 1.3M subscriber endurance CHAT>17) 36,640: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) APEX>18) 32,642: Miko (Hololive) GTA singing chase w/ viewers>19) 58,661: Koshimizu Toru (Nijisanji) Debut stream>20) 44,744: Kuramochi Meruto (Nijisanji) Debut Stream>21) 33,287: Miko (Hololive) FC Super Mario Bros 3>22) 34,814: Miko (Hololive) FC Super Mario Bros 3> PER COMPANY12x: Hololive10x: Nijisanji> PER STREAMER4x: Miko2x: Nijisanji, Pekora, Kuzuha1x: Subaru, Hayato, Korone, Koyori, Noel, Hibari, Voltaction, Marine, Sukoya Kana, Kanata, Koshimizu Toru, Kuramochi Merutotally repost doko
>>41529336Getting 10 million in a week would have been insane, I never had that expectation. It's slowing down like it should, but 10 million in a month is still possible.
>>41529467Why are we talking about midget numbers?
>>41529467Oh wow that's actually impressive. Still got a good incline angle too.
>>41529316best option is to put both people with their managers in a room with the head of management mediating/ listening so they can dish out the most appropriate punishment if there's any need for it in the first place.
>>41529346You hate them for not being successful and """stealing""" from the girls. If they had the personnel resources they'd be in better shape and there would be no perception of stealing.
>>41529524The stock fell a bit beforehand but they still made out like bandits, they were an early investorYou could see it as them noticing the rug was starting to move and joining in on pulling it
>fauna instantly moggedlmao
The unicorn has spoken
Fauna, Mumei, Selen three-way titty press
>>41529621You mean prophet
>>41529204>5x: Miko>>41529545>4x: MikoMIKO CARRY
no fucking pokemon fauna pls
>>41529336Someone said that youtube is culling it but I have no idea if that's true
>>41529051Unicorns as in the mentally ill people who actually fit the description? Never, the entire existence of Stars is an abomination for them.Unicorns as in gachikoi and CGDCTfags? Never, the entire existence of Stars is a threat to them.Unicorns as in most of the people Reddit labels as parasocial incels? Absolutely, they never were gachikoi or unicorns in the first place, managerial incompetence and perception of favouritism is what angers them.
What this? 3 streams from holo en? That's rare. After EN3 debut and they still can't have 4 minimum streams everyday something is wrong with the management.
>>41529621Is that what we call homobegging?
>>41529170Really the end for them this time. Hard to imagine the few left will stick around.
Should have said 'any of the girls' Fauna. You just invited the beggars.
>>41529170wait, backtrack a bit.Didn't Tsunderia dissolve last summer?
>>41529677If she does a long stream and actually just goes to beat the game she could do it easily tomorrow. She only has the E4 > 2 team star and penny and then has to do the crater and she's done
>>41529637I'd like to see a Fauna, Mumei, Selen collab but not sure what they can do. Fauna can't FPS and Selen can't...things that aren't FPS.
>>41529677Is she actively avoiding buff streams? I had hoped she would do Geoguesser/MC by now.
>>41529739Well another one bites the dust...
>>41529637Holy sex. My three favorite ENs
>>41529600People just don't like male Vtubers. That's is
>>41529622its minecraft dumbfuck
>>41529621>holostars harrasmentNoice
>>41529807Pokemon Mondays have been a thing for a while, so it's not out of left field. It was only different this past week because she had to delay slice and dice due to not feeling well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfMtXKTijyMStarted.
>>41529757Are you thinking about Cyberlive?
>>41529757They lost half their members and an important manager last year, but didn't outright die.
>>41529699Youtube has been pruning "bad views" ie. people not watching the entire video for the longest time, so there's nothing unreasonable about that.
>>41529860We watchinghttps://youtu.be/kqc-HPgznN8
>>41529709Kronii is streaming later tonight
>>41529051??No? This is the ideal scenario. This branch MUST crash and burn. Unless you are speaking of something nebulous like "they'd be competent by not pushing them as holos/forbidding leeching" then yeah sure, not like I actively hate them, I'd just not care.
>>41529170>お知らせ
>>41529862I thought they both dissolved within 2 months.
>>41529792I mean, if that huge Holo/Niji collab that Kiara was talking about ever happens, Mumei and Selen will probably be in it and Fauna is decently likely to be there as well. Would probably just be a party game like Jackbox or something.
>>41529885are weshit barely has 10k
>>41529621He always deliver a word of wisdom, praise thy kai
>>41529600I'm not even a unicorn. Are you saying the boys should have more resources? Did you not even read this thread for like 5 seconds to see that's what all the anti-tempus posters are complaining about in the first place?
Easy 10k
>>41529913>not like I actively hate them>This branch MUST crash and burnHow can unicorns be so retarded
>>41529885>Pomu talked about MinecraftShe's watching too
>>41529953We are. There are 200k nijiJP streams no one fucking watches while discussing a holoJP streams. This is the Holo numbers thread that nijiniggers barge in, shit on the floor, and mostly get ignored or told to kys. Always has been.
>>41529739According to the Tsun thread Hanabi basically doesn't stream, she just more or less hasn't bothered to retire. That means they have...only the people currently under their 1 year contract left. When that's up, it's over.
>>41529953We are like 70 people.
10k DOOOOOOOORYAAA
>>41529885>we
>>41529739If Hololive still hired girls, we could have Mumei/Lisa guitar & singing streams...Oh well.Phase Connect about to improve again.
>>41529621I saw some matome post claiming the term originated on 4chan, but I didn't investigate.
>>41530001Yeah but we like Selen and Vox
>>41529849Yeah but as someone who doesn't really like Pokemon it feels extra bad because Tuesday is break day so I need to wait till Wed for a good stream. Hope she finishes Pokemon soon.
Moom 10k
Are there any rules for the new minecraft world?
>>41529913There is no crashing and burning for them. Cover would absolutely pick the EN stars over Myth and Council.
>>41529989Learn to read nigger. It's nothing personal, it's clear they won't stop getting pushed on HoloEN so them dying out is the only real option. If "they get exiled away from them" was a real option, great, I hope they thrive there and won't spend a thought on their asses. Ah but anyway, you came here for (you) with a topic and language like this so what am I saying.
>>41529885She’s wearing a mustache. How can you not watch this?
>>41529999>talking about Minecraft>not talking about Metal GeatI hope her brain can heal
>>41529749Didnt see any homo mentions.
>>41529739TIL that Kana used to be part of Tsunderia before her solo menhera arc
>>41529170Someone save Ami, please. I don't care about the other shitters.
>>41530099Who said Cover has any power over them crashing and burning lmao
>>41529540I'm going to use this from now on
>>41530022Her streams do look pretty sparse, but "doesn't stream" seems like a bit of an overstatement. She's not completely inactive or anything.
>>41530001I rather watch a cat take shit then watch nijishit
>>41530135It's always on her mindhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1EQEDnCQsU
>10k 20 mins ingod why did they stop playing this block shit. i swear the "incline/recline" of EN is directly related to when they pick it up and drop it
>>41530199>Who said Cover has any power over them crashing and burningThey write the checks. They could make a scenario that the girls don't get their checks if they don't help the stars more.
>>41529739In hindsight, Rosemi got the best outcome. Any possible EN3 for this group? I kinda like the Miori girl
>>41530082Same as the old server. The difference is that everyone is equal and not guest
>>41529621Preach!
>>41529463don't shitpost with my morning girlfriend
>>41530271How's that going to help with shit like Vesper going menhera? Anyway enough of your fanfic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CC5tT-XDxKsNova Aokami Ch. [VReverie] oufit reveal>530k watching
>>41530070>VoxI haven't seen discussion of the dude here in ages, he fell off.
>>41530269Because the only one who actively enjoys playing it is Fauna.
>>41530001So nijien fans are like baby furs?
Moom already freaking out
>>41529621>a lone jap samurai taking up the battle EOPs are too cucked to carryhe is an honorary cowboy as far as I'm concerned
Effortless 10k for moom~
>>41529989>redditor label anyone who dislike homo as unicornThis is not your hugbox, troonies
mumei cute
>>41530239>literal 3 view, VOD 3viewjesus christWhy even be a vtuber at this point?
>>41530282Lisa would be a good candidate for hololive. Amiya would be too if she wasn't 100% focused on retro games, permissions would probably kill her motivation.
>>41530291EN is basically going to be the guests regardless since they won't build anything notable.
ahh.. holoen minecraft...
>>41530269You are in for a disappointment if you think it's going to keep getting these kind of numbers
>>41530193Ami doesn’t really need any help.As long as they let her keep the model, she’ll continue to pull the same numbers as an indie.The rest of TSUNDREAM is basically dead, the two dudes are super depressed now. Nen is MIA, and Lisa is Pippa’s bottom bitch.
>>41530135>didn't see her 3d ive announcmenetit's going to be all metal gear
>20k vs 10k it isn't even a contest
>>41530442A homeless man is still a citizen of the state they live in.
>>41530454>Full council overlap>Started last with a guerilla frame>Fauna was already streaming the same shitI mean
>>41530454Surely something was up there. Big overlap, bad timezone? It's below her normal numbers in general.
>>41530456I forgot they had guys, they even beat Niji in debuting them.
>>41530329>actually has more subs than Ophelia MidnightNever heard of her but I guess she has some fanbase. This is like 1/2 of what the much more well-known Kawaii girls got.
>>41530477>the full power of NijiEN>vs some dumb owl
Selen 20kDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>41530477Yeah it's actually kinda embarrassing for the FULL POWER OF NIJIEN IN A TOURNAMENT to only be...a few times stronger than Mumei.
>niji stream 20kSelen should've been Hakos Baelz
>>41529468>>41513284
>>41530269What's the point in pandering to unmonetized tourists and kids? Getting a thousand people paying to go to your live set is infinitely more impressive that having a hundred thousand people walk by you busking in the street tbqh.
>>41530457She said it wasn't, she didn't want the whole thing to be alienating for people who don't know anything about Metal Gear. Staff just forced her to add a tagline. I think there will be some Metal Gear segments though.
>>41530477>not even random Chinman zatsu numbers
>>41530613IRyS, by herself, used to average more CCV than all of NijiEN combined.
>>41529072>Mumei watches orcaWhy I am not surprised
these 11k dont count because she is leeching from JP
>>41530559Yes. One white girl autisticly reeeing is worth half of a Nijisanji branch
Fauna talking about debuts.
Fauna discussing about VTuber debuts... is it a sign?
Maybe now that cope tally is fucking dead you ENfags will finally join actual numbers at JP or just learn to enjoy your girls for what they are rather than just because theyre the biggest like NijiEN girls viewers mostly do.
>>41530714>NIJI VS NIJI WE MADE IT NIJIGODS
>>41530730yeah she used to stream too
>>41530642Bae is like 3 tiers above selen
>>41530714More like Botman.
Fauna confirmed EN3
>>41530795I'll never not laugh at how hard you jpbrown faggots mald over EN being successful two years on
>>41530769>>41530772Why is she a cow now?
>>41528447>Shit was like a looking into the futureWhat else could they do? People were just using them for sex roleplay.
>>41529621Based.
>>41530613Hey but where is HOLOEN TOURNAMENT?
>>41530891one fag wanted cow fauna
11K DORYAAA
>>41530817Selen is far larger than Bae.
>>41530902Monetize the sex roleplay.
>>41530772I'll say no until the opposite happens and if Fauna were to know they would be right around the corner.
>>41530922Tournaments are gay.
>>41530730>combinedNot sure you understand what that means
>>41528213>A: Peko and Suisei are the MVP of Holo>B: Marine instead of Suisei>A: Holo vs HoloEasy way to force my opinion
>'Star' of Tempiss2 already getting less numbers than VesperIt's over...
>>41530542Fauna started her PoV like 20 minutes before, and Mumei + Kronii was overlapping as well.
>>41530795>muh cope tallycan't run an event every day, anon. if you really were some "jp chad" you'd know nijiniggers banding together for a giga event takes a gold here and there
I forgot how boring mumei solo Minecraft used to be. Get someone in there for kayfabe please
>>41530978iirc, the previous gen only gets told of new debuts a couple weeks before they debut.
>>41530772Yes. A sign of Tempus3
>>41530866I'll never not laugh at how JP is at all time highs and EN is fucking irrelevant and practically a branch of Niji these daysJP chads won. EN fags lost. Deal with it
Kaela not streaming minecraft tonight? We need moom and kae kino in this.
>>41531014Starbros... Let's pray for Polka acknowledges her clown kohai
>>41530730And?yes, we get it, you struck gold in December 2021 with Luxiem and inclined. How much longer are you going to pretend this is an ongoing thing? Especially since NijiEN also started reclining.
>>41530871> 391Yes please.
>>41530866You know you lost when you can only bring up their success in the past
Minecraft is fucking weird a bunch of 20 somethings women playing legos to entertain thousands of 18-34 men
>>41530542full council overlap plus multi-pov minecraft with fauna/mumei/moona/kaela
>>41531065kaela in 20 minutes
Watching mumei solo minecraft is like watching paint dry kek
>>41531075I remember that as well, so either Fauna is doing teasing or something is happening in February Are we getting a Cupido chubba?
>>41531065She can't build... I don't think she like to grind
>>41530269Same reason JP dropped it not much left to do. I honestly expect this new Minecraft arc to last maybe a month or 2.
>>41530999NijiEN had 6 members at one point and combined they had an average CCV of 10k~. IRyS averaged 11k at the same point in time.
>>41530871366 is definitely the chumspic who shits up these threads. Seething about the daki is a big tip off
>>41531014grabass bidet....
>>41531132Legit, just totally shitter shattered by a single lazy meme shark. My actual sides.
>>41530974Pfffft. I thought it was more interesting.
>>41531207I guess watching paint dry is more entertaining than watching Niji for me then...
>>41531146>since NijiEN also started reclining.Most livers getting 3D and a big new concert. That doesn't sound like a "recline" to me. It's getting bigger.
>>41531191Cute girls doing cute THINGSMinecraft is the cute thing
Mumei is a good example of how to play into your dumb lore
>>41531064>NijiGODs needing an event to beat holoshits
>>41531231Anon, if anyone's going to be mad about not being able to get a pillow with a shark loli on it, it's the japs.
>>41531184Anon I don't care. The fact that you're genuinely scarred from getting dabbed on by Gura two years later is just funny to me. Bitter and broken LEMAO.
Ffs moomer build something
Wait, Vesper isn't going to join Tempus' 6month anni even though he just streamed a couple hours ago? What is going on with him?
>>41531334No i'm the cute things
>>41531191if i've learned anything after getting older is that most people are still children at heart
>>41531132>muh holo vs holoYour rivalry simply doesn't exist. It died December 2020 and you've been sperging about it for 2+ years now, like it was some fucking 100 years war and not ancient fags shitposting about Myth for 3 whole months.
>>41531444This is a tour stream. She mentioned it at the beginning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyfsWFrflq8Former Tsunderia dog, Purin streaming.
>>41531453Kill yourself, shut up. I don't care about homos, go lurk more, faggot.
>>41530772The only cope that EN3 will debut in February is management wants to chain hype from EN3 > Holofes > JP7
>>41531453kronii will not be on the collab so no reason to join
>>41531231Anon every chumkek is mad about the daki. If you think its one guy, and its specifically a guy who browses /#/, you're off your meds.
>>41531207Kaela digging for 4 hours is fun tho
>>41530772>Auditions update about needing to leave contracts>Tsunderia imploding as we speakhmmm
>>41531553That's fine. I hope EN3 and JP 7 are close with each other
>>41531566This but unironically
>>41531223I don't know about that. I remember when Ethyria first dropped they had the Selen Phasmo mega collab and that peaked at 7k~8k.
>>41531453>no HoloEN??How's he supposed to leech from people with less viewers than him?
i'm glad comfy Mumei MC streams are back, hoping she gets a numbers boost moving into Feb
>>41531339pretyy sure the nijiENgods have a bigger watching audience than holoENshitters at this point, and both HoloEN management and HoloEN talents are to blame. EN talents are lazy, EN management keeps them lazy, and encourages such. HoloEN started with a massive advantage and it pissed it all away sitting on its heels.
>>41531478EN fags shit up the thread all through 2021 and only stopped in 2022 when EN hit terminal recline due to Mori and Guras utter retardation
>>41531602JP7 around holoFes and EN3 6 months after them
>>41531514>formerTsunderias corpse finally releasing its last bodies?
It's sad that this guy doesn't know we can tell he's samefagging.
Fucking minecraft is more buff than hand cam now apparently
>>41531685>6 months after themAt that point HoloEN would be dead
>>41531597Purin for EN3I hope not
>>41531453Ate an old burger got tummy hort so he stole Kronii's "gag"
Wrestlesanji numbers doing slightly worse than at the same point last night. Bad bracket or something? I assume it'll get higher when we get to the finals.
>>41531453Extreme autism
>>41529170Everyone want to join NijiEN
>>41531748Good
>>41531684Is "shitting up the thread" just "talking about HoloEN" and making your NPC ass mad? Cause that hasn't stopped and never will, people will always talk about the streamers they understand more.
>>41531729Serious question, has handcam ever been a buff for the girls? How do Pekocams compare to her normal streams?
Have the JPs started leveling the ground again in this new server? Lame.
Hakos Baelz latest cover status: >mogged
>>41531830AIEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>41531769Sunday night, some people probably have work/school tomorrow, or their favorites already got knocked out.
REMINDER TO ALL SIDEBRANCH NIGGERSThe poster was Gura and she probably invented the /vt/sister meme >>12990018Mumei is Orcschizo, you are a newnigger if you deny it and yes she threw Kanauru under the busGlobalniggers are a bunch of hypocrites, they know what Mumei and Depressed Nousagi did but still, choose to discriminate against the not-a-cute-girl oneKiara is a number-obsessed, unethical, two-faced whore who has been harassing Gura for more than one and a half years over numbersBoth are known nijiniggers and as such you don't have to feel bad shitting on them, Kiara in particular is a workaholic but the fact that she is an evil whore who has no moral compass draws the permanent line that i will never cross, there's no "someday i will like Kiara" for meSana is a quitter who left so soon because she didn't get her wayAme hates Cover so much so that she was willing to be Kiara's bitch. Both Kiara and Ame are angsty subhumans with daddy issues hence they click with each other, also that "fucking bitch" had its buildup of private resentmentIna came to talk with Gura to vent her feelings at some point, "I will postpone creating mascot for IRyS" was not something she would announce in the holo discordthe only mystery left to solve is why does Kiara hate IRyS so much, because she believes she could actually have been the EN VSinger? or it's something elseanyway Mori and IRyS got their "Official Artist Channel on YouTube" before Kiara and this was something that could NOT be predicted therefore if you deny this you are either a KFPhaggot or a teaniggerno amount of katakoto japanese is gonna save the european whore from her lack of talent, the only thing she's good at is selling her body to sleazy japanese men (pic related) https://files.catbox.moe/78sk34.png, this bitch doesn't even know how to lie successfully. Cover should settle this once and for all and fire herTLDR: Teaniggers think they are moralfags but in reality they all are just accomplices to the european whore's scheme>>41430085>the reason Kiara antis still exists is because you dumb fags do your circlejerk shit instead of just answering them with counter-evidenceplease do so>>41418057the most based KFP
>>41531760You don't want it because you want those Discord masturbation sessions still.
>>41531748They're making another EN branch. One with no EN management. There will be HoloENPro with Council, Hope, Myth, and Tempus and there will be Hololive EN with EN1.
>>41531748It has been dying for like a year now anyways and their solution was killing them faster with homos
>>41531729It always has been. handcam is a buff maybe just the 1st time. even NijiEn who can squeeze more buff runtime out of it eventually drove it into the ground to the point where I bet Mysta can squeeze more out of Genshin than handcam
>>41531666actually, their fans have some of the blame too, as they encouraged the laziness as well. HoloEN will never go anywhere and remain a sideshow because no one cared, or rather those that did were told to fuck off. Really toxic mindset, you can't create a HoloJP level success off of that toxicity and hostility towards constructive criticism.
>>41531879q-qrd on that?
>>41531769Bad time for Asia, and it isn't even close to the finale.
>>41531769First time buff was yesterday i guess.
>>41531884I'm actually starting to chuckle how anons make up fanfiction ideas in a contest to sound as retarded as possible, and thus as accurate to the Cover mindset as possible.
>>41531453Wtf is that dude's problem? I could understand being pissed at Tempus2 being dropped way too soon, but now he's ducking even stuff involving his original branchmates? Nice star of your branch Omega, good job
>>41531823https://streamable.com/hzqzzvIt's in their nature
>>41531794She wouldn't waste money buying out her model if she wanted to join Niji EN, she'd just abandon it like the rose did. Her choices are join Phase, stay indie, or maybe join Idol if they're open to recruits. She's much weaker than any of the 2nd wave Idol talents so I don't see them making an exception for her.
>>41531769I think every single Luxiem except Mysta being eliminated yesterday may impact the number a lot
why of all holoen its mumei who decide to stream mackarel like she can't even play the game properly and lazy to this kind of things.
>>41531830kek
Grimmest of the grim.
>>41531823Yes, they were already flattening from D1 kek
>>41531926>>41531666Learn to type differently when you're samefagging
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5RnjUw0ws0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTLlwC278qkMan, the EN clipping side really isn't doing much with the big JP events anymore.JP clips about Suisei's First take and Towa's team winning CR cup get 250k views per day already, but these are the highest from the EN translated ones.
>>41531819Peko first ever handcam got like 60k
>>41531998>Japanese>CoverDon't care. Come back when it's an EN original.
>>41531830rat blown away by react.It's over.
>>41531995I loving esl talk England extreme good
>>41531830I already see some of them starting to react to other Suichan songs
>>41531998>Bae>Jap coverez skip
Gabe on Fauna's superchats
>>41531995She was curious and had no idea what to stream today
WWE featuring other member is actually pretty kino. Shame, Hololive only has Miko doing it. Guess it's too much to ask HoloEN when they can't even properly organize collab with more than 4 people
>>41531830>>41531998Something something Selen Baelz
>>41532039The EN interest in JP vtubers is dead. 2020 will never happen again.
>>41531819Holofans are true Vtuber fans unlike nijifags so handcams dont give more than a miniscule buff. Remember Gura's 20k handcam stream? of course the clips had 200-300k views each tho.
>>41532039Apex is dead as fuck in the west, we play Valorant now
>>41531998>5 min long cover of random Japanese songShe knew exactly what numbers this was going to get going in, she has done these before. She must just do it for fun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MFrbsrOoA0
>>41531998still performing better than most of holo cover though almost 100k in less than 24 hrs
>>41532119kys Gabe, you attention whore SEAnigger
>>41532148Gura got into it but NOBODY ELSE in this individualistic branch cared to join
>>41532038that was an addendum, not a samefag attempt retard.
>>41532164Even if they make 1270 times better content?Sad.
>>41532189>She must just do it for fun.Yes, she also likes these songs
>>41532189Yes. She's already said that these covers are basically passion projects.
>>41532189Fun and practice. If she wanted numbers she'd make more stuff like Play Dice.
>>41532119Based, maybe he can finally find happiness. Pls fauna save him. >>41531998i will never give bae another view after she ditched a sick IRyS to go homo off collabing.
>>41532220>NOBODY ELSE>He doesn't know
>>41531935Apparently she has some more exclusive Discord channels that she had the mic on while she masturbated. I don't know if she still does it, but management won't come in and scold her for doing it anymore.
>>41532039The English speaking market doesn't give a fuck about JP chuubas. Best you're getting now is them being able to convince a handful of SEAbros to watch them like back in 2019.
>>41531830Bae should react to Suisei
>>41532220Fauna literally joined the VC in one of them you retarded faggot
>Management suspend vesper>will not take part in any events or shill events anymore and solo streams for himself onlySounds kinda based desu.
>>41532200Mucho ES
>>41531982Man, they should have taken some inspiration from the IDs. Maybe that's why Moona and Kaela fucked off to their own corners.
>>41532095Seems like this one was doing Hololive for a while. Probably why it got so high.
>>41532119>>41532213>>41532279You really trapped the thread readers with this one.
>>41532200I don't know what they're saying but I feel like someone should be bringing me some chips and salsa while I wait.
>>41532220gura didn't put in the effort to actually make the characters. Would have been kind of kino to have someone in HoloEN go autistic in the character creator while Gura casted the actual matches with them.
>>41532119>>41532213>>41532279It was a fake Gabe Newell. Not this faggot board's Gabe. Retarded faggots.
>>41532327There was a time when JP chuubas were extremely important in the Western scene.
>>41532220>Gura got into itGura did what she always does and hoovered up all the possible hype for [new thing] while delivering an absolutely subpar experience almost anyone else in her branch would have been able to beat this killing the hype and dropping the [new thing]. Content vampire.
>>41532337>The fight with management that got him suspended was because he refused to use Altare's name and just kept calling him retard.
>>41532457There was a time when the Western scene was important
>>41532336>FauFau doing her best to help other EN girlsLove her
>>41532200the retarded knuckles guys was way more popular and he already reclined massively. ES fans are fickle and only like stuff because its popular.
>Tempus gets to the part where they shill their 6 month merch>No Vesper merchHow would you react?
>>41530871>259rrat gods grinning
>>41532337It's dumb. They should have outright fired him and not said why so everyone would think it was some big yab thing and justified. Letting him twist in the wind until his contract is up and then him fucking off with his fans is the worst outcome. If they are doing this and he isn't just being menhera, which I think is what is actually going on.
>>41532220She did 2 streams before dropping it while also ensuring nobody else could jump on it.
>>41531998Mumei saw your post and is now shilling the cover
Vtubing on Twitch too.Connor's also streaming to 10k, so the Vshoko audience is split in 4
>>41532039the english speaking market dont give a shit about jp vtubers anymore, anon, be it for niji or holo. interest is much smaller now compared to 2020. the only ones who still pay attention are older fans
>>41531566No Kronii? NO Vesper. It works the other way around. No Vesper? NO Kronii. Why do you think they had to bring in Kaela to replace her for a couple collabs
>>41532582I mean...I ain't watching it so I wouldn't. Post it here if it happens and I'll go "oooooooooo" like I was a 5th grader and the power just went out at school.
>>41532337>>41532582shouldnt be talking about dicks in collabs with the girls. He wont care, Kronii laughed and thats all that matters to him.
>>41531874Holy based
>>41532582I'd probably make a single comment in this thread when someone posted about it and then never think about it again
>>41531474I really am>t. got a shitbike for trail riding, looking around for the loudest most obnoxious exhaust dor shiggles before flipping it
>2povs>1 fag didn't appear>HomoES overlapsisters I'm not feeling very well
>>41532719Wish that Kaela replacement ended up permanent. She's literally just a better version of her and gels well with Council.
>>41532708A lot of CdogVA's audience doesn't actually watch vtubers. Nyanners number is kind of shit, did she just start? If not, grim.
>>41532738w-what?
>>41532708nyanners bros... why did she reclined, i thought we didnt care about her getting a BF and showing him off on stream.
seems like nijisanji opened a jewel line called dinamis and the first one to get it are the new jp girls?https://twitter.com/arit_rok/status/1617328311021207557https://twitter.com/suu_bd_suu/status/1617349027565273089
>>41532708Nyanners seems pretty low for what she usually is no?
There might be an EN minecraft collab
>>41532603They got so much shit for executing Rushia mercilessly maybe they're scared of doing it again. She deserved it pretty clearly but even so it wasn't a good look.
>>41532708>twitch numbers
>11k people watching a retard stare at the wallYou guys have horrible taste
>>41532582I wouldn't be surprised since he apparently spent an inordinate amount of time during his burger stream talking about the sauces looking like cum.
>>415328131.5 hours in and just now passed 4k.Western Vtuber viewer numbers have never been the same after September.
>>41532708What happened to nyan? Also mouse is a leech
>>41532850Either that, or it's an ARG of sorts for the new JP girls, maybe their wave name is Dinamis.
>>41532882Better than whatever niji is doing right now
>>41532814He made a dick joke on the monopoly collab with Kronii and Calli.
>>41532827Nyanners is almost as lazy as Gura, reclining was inevitable.
>>41532882We LOVE retards >here
You'd have to clip Ayame if you want EOP good numbershttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T60q0O1gJvI
>>41530329>>41530558I, too, like the card games dragon
>>41532891>Also mouse is a leechAnon, mouse IS the EN vtubing scene on Twitch.She's the only one pulling things together.
>>41532882Moom cute
Fauna ended. Funnel once the needy fucks stop posting comments.
>>41532719>Kaela to replace her for a couple collabsThe best decission they had ever made
>>41532892EN vtuber scene is reclining in general after September. Dunno what happened in September
>>41532882Its great and I love it
>>41532882she is cute and thats all i want. Cuteness = happiness
>>41533022+1k to mumei ccv, best saplings can do
>>41532892>SeptemberNo. Nyanners recline is separate from that and have been reclining since last January
Did Mumei get Fauna's funnel?
>>41533086it just ended...
>>41532790My only complaint is that can be a little too ESL sometimes. Some jokes and references fly over her head. Because shes ID yea but still
It's boring when NijiEN gets serious
>>41533022Sc reading doesn't funnel much
>>41532850How long before it gets taken down bc copied IP again?
>>41533119Like, 500 so far.
>>41533119Yes when she switched to SC.
>>41533119In the process, but yes
>>41533119Saved her from the dip
>>41532948so your saying she is too busy having sex with her BF...? >>41533046the unicorn vs the sisters war. The end off HoloEN unity with both the streamers and the fanbase. IT HURTS SO BAD BECAUSE IT WAS AFTER KINO RUST (besides last day).
Will NijiEN finally gets gold?
I thought they'd go below 5k yen today, what happened numberbros?
>>41532827She didn't just get a BF, she also pretty much became his sidepiece rather than being an actual streamer herself, and that's not even getting into all the misc moments like the creampie thing. Nyanners is a long time professional at shooting herself in the foot and the numbers reflect this, her incline was the exception, not the norm.
>>41533029> TAKE YOUR MEDS MUMEIwhat a good collab that was. Surprised they dont use that soundbite for the schizos around here
>streaming over tempissbased
I don't get it. why are people treating that one unicorn's twitter account like it's the gospel? they do realize this is the exact same behavior twitter trannies and fujo do, right? or do they have no self-awareness whatsoever?
>>41532827She genuinely didn't stream regularly for the better part of 2022 and even since late 2021. The most dedicated fags were stalking her discord and the bf's streams hoping to hear her in his calls or seeing her in chat. Fuck that noise.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUM0Q7mraGEHoshikawa is the most complete vtuber in Nijisanji.
>>41533338>There are people still holding on the stock
Honestly I love Mumei, but solo moomcraft was probably not the best choice for EN's first foray into the new server.
>>41533408I'm not even following them if it weren't for your comment I'd never known
700 saplings went to Moom
>Vesper STILL hasn't tweetedKek
>>41533408if enough holoENs oppose Tempiss shilling by management, Gura will finally be revived....
>>41532827Nyanners is a tradwife now
>>41533338TWO MORE WEEKS
So, Vesper won't be in the collab? Why?
>>41533479True. Faumei + Kaela would have been perfect
>>41533470>a full year of gosting her viewersYeah, people will eventually leave.A few thousands switched over to Aethel permanently.
>>41533408hoomomans will leave as soons as it starts
>>41532787It’s unironically over for Tempus this is the yab climax
>>41533572>>41533509he is balls deep in Kronii, why would he?
>>41533572Wrong thread buddy
>>41533643I'm Kronii btw
>>41533440It's just one spammer
did vesper really pull a laplus earlier in his career than laplus
>>41533751At least La+ had the decency of being mentally ill and having a fucking announcement that she's mentally ill
>>41533643Despite the fanfic VT keeps writing about them, Vesper knows he's too old to put his dick in someone mentally still a teenager.
vesper doko...
yab mumei just pulled a gun on stream
mumei needs other people with her... She's incompetent at the game but she plays into kayfabe well with others
>>41533738I sure hope so
>>41532039Noise's translation is so fucking bad. Can't he get someone who speaks English to proofread once?
>>41533470Feels like her, her boyfriend, and Vei are all prepping for an eventual switch over to normal streamers, or at least being hybrid streamers and only using the vtuber stuff occasionally.
>>41533841She's a good minecraft lackey, she's best when Fauna is pulling her around like a packmule.
>>41533408Should Cover make a rule that you cannot overlap events?
>>41533751La+ is a menhera and is on a menhera break. Vesper is just a leech
>>41533851Once you stay in this shithole long enough you can recognize the thread schizos
>Mumei gained viewers when tempus started
>>41533876Vei 100%, which'll make it even funnier when they break up in a year or so.
>>41532337nice, 1 down 7 to go
>>41533751Dudes are just better, they are even better than girls at being girls.
>>41533958Tempus hasn't started and she got a Fauna funnel
>>41533876Kson and Vshojo saved Vtubing by becoming Flesh streamers! Kneel to Kson!!!
>>41533922Within a small branch like Tempus, yes. No one should be overlapping their anniversary stream.
So, why do JP chuubas keep inclining if the EN market isn't interested in them anymore? Are you telling me that JP market is bigger than EN market?
all male
>>41534053for vtubers yes, by far
>>41534053I literally switch to HoloJP since Gura hasnt streamed. Still watched IRyS but now she gone too...
>>41534053Yes. It's also bigger than it was in 2020. Vtubing is huge in Japan.
>>41534001We thought he beat Mori's curse but it turnout it was only delayed.
>>41534053They definitely have a higher population of regular and committed viewers, that's undisputable. Perhaps EN has a higher casual/tourist population, or at least did during 2020/early 2021. But I don't think it'll ever reach those levels again organically.
>>41534053weeb country vs casual weebs
>>41534034True. I think that No one should stream over Tempus(1&2), Uproar, and Stars' events. Maybe Cover should pay Anycolor to not stream over them.
>>41533993Quite the opposite, Vei streamed with her face in the past and said she didn't like how creepy chat gets.At most she will do some irl streams in America, she's never had qualms with that, but she's keeping the model for normal streams.
>>41533606I remember one funny thing when she got the coof for like the nth time, some of the discordfags and even some of the /vsj+/ fags weren't buying that shit and then she started sadposting in her server with some minor breakdown like people she liked don't just trust her anymore.
so the "they're more stable, they'll stream more" was all bullshit...
Another day another effortless nijiEN gold.
>>41534053a reclined Gura who doesnt stream has more mindshare in JP than EN at this point too. EN market is a plant that blossomed beautifully before Cover and the girls let it wither and die...
>>41534053Pretty much this.>>41534174The more widespread vtubing becomes, the more they'll get higher numbers for events, as western watchers don't bother as much with regular streams as they did during the lock-down.
>>41534283whats the EN gold tally? is nijiEN about to win 2 months in a row?
Anyone watching the homo collab? How are things looking? GRIM or good?
>>41532708KR chuubas entering Rust age? Their numbers don't look too good
>>41534255>"Im an autistic neet just like you guys! Im too nervous to go out and meet people.">gets covid 5 times
>>41534451>He's not there
>Vox and Doppio are way better at commentating than Pomu and SelenLazusydia bros how do we cope?
>>41534506Wrong thread?
WE DID IT YAGOO!
yeaaaah vesper is getting terminated soon isn't he
>>41534506Wrong thread faggot> men being better than woman at somethingCall the presses
>>41534053More people are learning Japanese, and they are actually interesting.Also note that while "JP chuubas still inclining" it does not mean "EN chuubas are not inclining"Pippa is incliningProduction Kawaii is incliningAll the other small corpo and indies are incliningNijiEN girls are incliningIt is just that Luxiem and HoloEN are declining, former because chinkfujos found a new toy, while the latter some would say is because of shork (no streaming) reclining, but mostly because they are boring and offer nothing on the table other than the Blue Dorito, in other words they are not worth the hololive brand.
>>41534609>All of us are here!>Vesper MIA
>>41534609God willing
>r9 5900x>3070tiMumei is poor... Where's the 4090
>>41534506Women commentating over a MAN's sport never goes well. Fuck niggas trying to normalize CSGO/DotA2 e-sport women commentators btw
>>41534605and he would sacrifice another Gura to get them to incline another 1k!
>Vesper and Altare are no longer friends
NOT box status?
>VESPER WILL NOT BE JOINING US TONIGHTHOLY KEK
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>41534668Kek
>>41534506Numbers says otherwise nijifags, today's peak is lower than yesterday's.
>>41534605Hey man, looks good to me. It hasn't even been ten minutes and they're closing in on a combined 10k. Launch the next gen so we can get ready to launch the fouth by the end of March.
>>41534668lmao
>>41534864TICK TOCK TEAKEKS
>>41533338Well, at this point you're either holding for long-term purposes or have already sold off. If neither of those, you're fucked, but your loses aren't realized until you sell, so you just hold and pray.
>>41534864>all the Vesper fans dipping outHoly Kek
>>41534668>Tempus 2 will be joining the stream to rate the dishes
People always call Vesper the Gura of Tempus, so if he quits that seems like a really bad scenario
I will honestly laugh my ass off if Tempus1's anniversary surpasses the first branch wide collab. Goes to show why you give the new guys some time to build hype.
>>41534609god's plan
>>41534659You can take all the scraps from the small corpos and Niji girls and add them together on any given day and it will barely equal the total of one extra Holo EN stream. And that's modern Holo EN, not peak. It's a vastly declined market we're looking at this point.
OHNONONONONONO ITS OVER
Mumei's autistic as fuck
>>41534053Why is it so hard for some people to believe that the JP market is way bigger? All the big corpos are Japanese and they use anime style stuff for the most mundane things there, and there's little social stigma around consuming it. Literal boomers have been watching stuff like Sazae-san for decades, it's just different over there.
>>41534970if vesper is the gura of tempiss ren is the gura of iluna
>>41535003AHAHAHAHHA
>>41534970He's nowhere near as relevant. Sure he gets the best numbers but nothing like Gura's, even proportionally.
>>41535003Is that drop immediately after they said Vesper wouldn't show up?
>>41535003you can tell the exact moment they said "Vesper will not be joining us tonight"
PLEASE VESPER COME BACK
>They still have Vesper merchThey wouldn't be doing that if he was graduating right?
>>41535003ACCELERATE
>>41534972Pretty sure that just means no one gives a fuck about Tempus 2.
>>41535028Thats why i love her, yes.
>>41535003Holy shit lmao he really is the Gura of Tempus. He leaves you might as well shut Tempus down altogether.
>>41535068>>41535079
>>41535003>drama buff+>drama drop
>>41535086Sana still have you know
>most people are learning japanese just to watch japanese streamersyou guys don't seriously believe this shit right
>>41534668>4/4 HoloX tweets
>>41534982One thing to note is that chink has multiple good chuubas of their own now so they don't need to watch EN chuubas now. If hololive allow more talent freedom for Myth then they could incline. Council is whatever because all of them started coasting on day 1.
>>41534970The only people who call him that are coping sisters
>>41535003>Vesper will not be in the collab>lose almost 1k viewers immediately
>>41534053Yes. JPs will keep on declining while ENs will decline. It has become clear that vtubing fad is well past its peak for English speaking audiences.
>>41535086Cover is copying nijisanji again.
>>41534506We have been holding out for this since yesterday.
>>41535028And she's bleeding to Tempus lol
>>41535086They still sold Rushia merch during the time they fired her tho?
what is up with Vesper, he was given a second chance after an unprecedented suspension and he still goes and tries to get himself terminatedNICE JOB COVER, GIVING US TEMPUS INSTEAD OF EN3
>>41535003How can Vesper *not* look at that and feel like shit for skipping? He shouldn't have streamed at all today and just pretended like he was so off his meds it was impossible for him.
>>41534659Do you really think the vast majority of the casual EN audience is going to learn Japanese to watch some streamers? This board and especially this thread is not in any way a representation of the general audience.
>Kronii barely interacts with CouncilRyS at all anymore but always magically has time for Vesper>Vesper is consistently missing big Tempus collabs that he shouldn't but never missed a Kronii collabIt's really starting to look fucking bad.
>>41535003>>41534864THEY'RE FUCKING BOTTING THE WAITING ROOMS AGAIN. FUCKING NIJISANJI 2.0
>>41534668
>>41535003How is /mans/ coping
>>41535086They would have planned and contracted all of this merch months ago, and Vesper's descent into... whatever the fuck is going on with him, is a recent development
>>41535151I been using doulingo even tho people say its shit and i can understand 1000x more than anime ever tought me.
>vtubing is a fad in the westThis again. I would've been more convinced if people stopped watching them randomly but I know the reason people stopped watching is because they are just not entertaining to watch.
>>41534053Why do we keep having this conversation damnit?!It's simple: In Japan, Vtubers have pretty much become THE DEFACTO video game streamers, and really, the biggest streamers overall over there, with only Jun and the fps-gang putting up a fight still. That leads to a case of "the rich getting richer", where being at the top leads to numbers consolidation in the streaming market. You go to YT streaming, and if a Holomem is streaming that game, they're 1000% going to be on the top of the category for that game, unless one of the top dogs of NijiJP is also streaming.
>>41535157I've never heard of any good Chinese vtubers. I thought that A Soul thing kind of fell apart and that the Chinese Niji vtubers were all pretty meh.
>>41535003>>41534950So is this is a you need me more than I need you situation with neither sides backing down
>>41535294I mean it's pretty obvious there's *something* going on there. She hardly acknowledges ANYONE besides Vesper at this point.
>>41535294Kronii just wants vespers cock anon. She also occasionally wants owl pussy and goes running back to mumei for a few days.
You guys are right. The weeb audience that watches vtubers definitely wouldn't try learning JP. That's impossible
>>41535086Sana graduated 1 month after her BD, which had merch. They still had anniversary merch for Sana, no?
>>41535206>bleedingLearn your terminology
>>41535294Kronii has collabed with Vesper more than Fauna at this point.
>>41535268I honestly think he's checked out and gonna quit after the one year mark like Sana.
>>41535489That's a good thing. Kronii should stay the fuck away from Fauna and Mumei.
>>41535036To be specific, it's that as a %marketshare, vtubers are the top of the crop for streaming, being that they essentially came to dominate the primary streaming platform over there (Youtube). Contrast this to the west, where TWITCH is where the streaming scene started, and that platform is mature and already has a meta that prevented vtubers from being able to take over like they were able to in Japan on Youtube. Also, just the difference in market position of "anime', where in Japan it's just animation, whereas in the west it's this 'odd thing from Japan'.
Kiara will be playing Fire Emblem
>>41535398Linglan, Komome (yes I count her as chink vtuber because her main audiences are island chinks) to name a few that is on YT.
>>41535529Sana at least showed up to group collabs
>>41535552but mumei and kronii still hang out off stream anon
>>41535489that's good think I don't need that bitch on my screen when I watching Fauna
>>41535584who
EN is dying, mumei fighting alone really made me cry
>>41535489Good stay away, replace her with Kaela entirely desu, she acknowledges the homos too but at least she doesn't flirt with them on stream.
>>41535552I agree but add IRyS too that list as well.
>>41535294Stop using my oshi to deflect bitch
>>41535451Sana graduated on good terms. If Vesper graduates 6 months into his Holo career after being suspended for 2 weeks, that's not good terms.
>>41535445Every English-speaking weeb has tried to learn Japanese at some point in their lives, but almost none succeed. The language is basically completely alien to anything related to English, you have to be incredibly determined to learn it unless you have a real talent for languages.
>>41535584I guess I'm forced to watch Kiara now. Hope it's better than Kronii's Fire Emblem stream. That shit was awful and she dropped it after one stream and never continued.
>>41535529Sana didn't bail on group shit
NICE """UNITY""" FAGS
>>41535688ngmi
>>41535710This is the holoJP and InaFaumeiRys + Gura thread.
>Myth crumbling>Council fragmented>Tempus implodingwhat went wrong HoloEN bros...
>>41535570Didn't vtubing also rise around the same time NicoNico started to die? They might have benefited from being a really visible presence on the new platform of choice.
so we can commonly agree there are no hopes for HoloEN at this point right? There are no hopes for growth, they will simply be as they are with no hope to be greater, a dead end.
>>41535594What do they get?
>>41535151y-yeah, w-who would do that, r-right? hahah
>>41535489No need for the hyperbole; no she hasn't. They've done enough impromptu and group collabs for that to be a blatant lie.
>>41535245They offered refunds didn't they?
>>41535792& IRyS!
>>41535826You could say the same for JP. None of them are growing.
/#/bros... mumei is making fun of our oshi and her uuuu's...
>>41535836Consistent 4views, probably Enna tier.
3/3 bros...
>>41535597>>41535697Despite hating streaming, it was obvious that Sana cared a ton about the Council girls, she was also the one helping Kronii deal with her mental health behind the scenes.
>>41535913She's had Fauna on her mind a lot lately. Must be talking off-stream a lot. Faumei collabs incoming.
>>41535710Blame tempiss for unity being dead for the fanbases and the girls. >killed off Kromei>killed off AmeSame for goodthey havent done any good for the exising fanbase that was here already.
>>41535151after 2-3 years, those that really cared blended into the JP audience already.Most seem to be KR, Aus TW and CN that do that.NA is the most stuck up on EN, while SEA splits in all 3 routs, with some being just ID watchers even if they understand english.
Kronii put up a room collab with Vesper...
>>41535913>our oshiDo sapkeks really? She is not even EN's #3 or #4.
/MANS/ status?
>>41535584But will she start before Bae and Kronii for the first HoloEN buff?
>>41535826They seem fine with it
>>41535913Yeah.. she's getting punished by Fauna later, gonna turn her pussy to mush.
We're going to have a fuck load of HoloPro graduations this year huh? For example even if Gura is doing even worse than people think and actually needs to quit, Cover 100% would have begged her to at least hold off on it till after Holofes.
what the fuck is with the fucking schizo doomposting holy shit. i leave this shithole for 2 months and everything here just becomes depressing
>>41535903
>>41535294>Kronii didn't join Council in Japan>Vesper didn't join Tempus in the 6 month annivTHEY ARE... really bad hires
>vesper graduates>gura returnsi need reasons on why my rrat will be true.
>>41536110This is the schizo samefag thread.
>>41535445Most weebs never learn shit, it's a common point used to make fun of them. I've got a weeb sister with a wall full of manga, and the furthest she ever got was learning a minimal amount of JP vocabulary before giving up.
https://shop.hololivepro.com/products/holostarsen_anhalfyear>Half-year anniv >For Tempus>All 8 of them>Tempoop just debuted 2 weeks agolmao
>>41535003that's a weird graph
>>41535826At this point, every day without EN3 is another day that another shovelful of dirt is dug out for the grave of HoloEN. Tempus debuts being prioritized over new girls set the direction for the branch to permanently decline into the ground. In another world, EN3 debuts back in Q1/2 2022, and Ina and Gura don't fucking disappear for Q4 2022, resulting in myth actually being in Japan and getting their 3d debuts done instead of being pushed back into 2023.
>>41536110Blame tempiss for killing off Unity. Fanbases have been at war for months now.
>>41536080Paypigging probably
>>41535903All of JP have greater opportunities inside the company, greater sponsors outside the company, the upper half have greater connections within the industry, and 1st army are in mainstream japanese media, shows, commercials, etc. EN is a sideshow, dead in all regards.
>>41535826Tempus is going to die soon and from the ashes HoloEN will thrive
>>41536151Sexual harassment
>>41536151>Vesper was a sex pest>Mori and Kronii took his sideWhat would be the fall out?
>>41536153Kek. They are the top of their branches respectively too and decided to use their golden ticket to spite on their fans.
>>41536110Why would you come back to this wasteland of a thread if you'd successfully left it?
>Cripple HoloEN to prop up Tempus>The one semi-successful talent is miserable, losing his mind, and skipping every single group collab within the first six monthsMale vtubers: Not even once
>>41536191you could tell when Axel said "all 8 of them" he was PISSED at management
>>41536110Only EN is depressingJP side keeps growing with Pekora breaking records and Suisei on The First Take
So did they even say why he's not there or have just been ignoring everythign?
>>41535792It's the fans fault no doubt!I can see the one-sided dramanewstuber video already!
>>41536151>La+ returns at the same time as Gura return and Vesper's terminationVesper was sexually harrassing the lolis of Hololive.
>>41535151I just use LiveTL + stay silent or spam Kusa. I know my place after watching for 2+ years, I'm not gonna speak up in english unless a girl SPECIFICALLY asks for Kaigai-niki to speak up. Both because I'm not a newfag and because that's the current chat culture for overseas bros.
>>41536153Vesper is literally in Japan, did a stream right before this and didn't mention the anni stream at all. Didn't shill it nor give an excuse for why he wouldn't show up.It's genuinely awful behavior.
>>41535710We didn't ask for homos, they can go get views somewhere else. I'll keep watching Moom.
>>41536191They're really trying to push the 'same gen' bullshit after the backlash
>>41536215>JP = SuiseiOkay. She's graduating soon too if you read her split. She hates Hololive.
>>41535311lapras........
what's with all the doom posting
>>41536296>jpand a ching chong to you too sir
>>41534053You really buy into the “EN build JP” bs ENfag spewing out?
Vox is more interesting than the wet noodles that is Tempus 1 and Tempus 2 combined, but I still won't watch his solo content so there is really no reason for Tempus to exist in the first place.
>>41532708>Connor's also streaming to 10Leeching really can get you far huh
>>41536246Same thing happened to Gura. Looks like being at the top is hard and they debuff themselves.
>>41536300I have turned off the stream because the lag and audio issues made it 100% unwatchable, but they just said "Vesper won't be joining us" and moved on
>>41536246>Kronii >top of Council
>>41536278I'd say he was pissed at vesper
>>41536300No reasons given. Gura level communication not even a year in. Great job Omega.
>>41536300stirring Kronii's guts atm.
>>41536432I'm moom posting
>>41536014I really wish someone would back up these claims about where the old EN went with some actual proof.
>>41536245kronii is korean, they have sex harassment fetich Mori is only being contrarian
>>41535818I think so yea, it helps that many of the old guard Nijis+Holos were NND streamers. Does anyone prominent even stream on that platform nowadays? We don't really see NND numbers here, so I can't say anything with confidence about that platform beyond what bits I've seen about.
>>41536338kinda of based
>>41536338>chinman does it>is considered a god>big numbers>vesper does it>is a creep>hobbit baby numbers
>>41536273just wanted to see how the thread was keeping. glad too see its finally dying off
>>41536191Hahahahahaha what the fuck is EN management doing. Surely JP management is looking at this and going "look we might not speak english or know the market but some of the shit you're pulling makes no fucking sense in japanese or english".
>>41535903Have you willfully ignored the numbers in this thread for months?Forget about the record breaking 100k+ days in a row at the start of the month, or that some of the JP chuubas managed to pass the pre viwer count 2020 change ccv numbers,Suisei's First take? Remember that?
>>41536507>>41536479This is actually unbelievable. The least they could do was lie and say that the burger stream fucked him. He hasn't even retweeted the streams or showed support or even mentioned the Half Anni. This is actually baffling behavior.
>Vesper will get a pass for skipping this collab because he's hecking based and fuck management>Laplus gets antis swarming both her holo and roommate accounts for missing one collab
>>41534013Ah, I didn't care to check it. Just remembered that'd start on the hour.
>>41536556It's that sexual harassment meme but instead of looks it's his numbers.
>>41536110Entirely because of Tempus and then fucking TEMPUS2 before EN3. The absolute tonedeaf braindead state of EN management.
>>41536581It doesn't work because they tweeted out yesterday (before the burger stream) that he wouldn't be showing up.
>>41536455I watched him play Sekiro and Donkey Kong Country, that was more interesting than anything Tempus has played
>>41536080DEFCON 2 LVL
>>41536556It's okay because he's JP
>>41536512He must have a short fuse cause he's only got 20 mins before she starts stream for their collab.
>>41536398>Lying on the internet
>>41536432Nijiniggers are more amused by baiting and falseflagging in this thread than watching their boring fatass dragon collab.
>>41536215>>41536578why the fuck are you replying to obvious bait
>>41536148holy fuck /mans/ is a shitshow
>>41536215That only because hololive done nothing for the EN market. They legit have no connections to the en scene at all where my vtuber merch in convince store like japan. Where the holoen cafe in the west? Where the holoen x food collab like in japan.
>>41536620Both will be forgiven because they are not ENgirls who have schizos who still hate Mori for not calling in on Gura's birthday
>>41536715>they're sharing naked pics nowthe fuck is that place doing actually
>>41536090yes, and that's why EN is a dead end. If they are fine with being small, then they will stay small. All it means is to have no hopes, there is no 'journey'. They are the npc's, the 'villagers' that stay in the same town while HoloJP talents actually go places. ID seem like much the same thing, but their management at least seems more motivated to encourage and work with them, so I'm not sure.>>41536205that's too many hopes on an EN3, they aren't going to be super different and they aren't a miracle that will change how EN management works. There is literally no hope. EN will remain in stagnation.
>>41536652It's funny how Vox has better game choice than most of Tempus. Too bad his personality filters me too much.
>>41536715At least he's a man of his word.
>>41536702This is the designated newfag bait biting thread
>>41536620Vesper is not getting a pass, people are getting pissed
>>41536620He's not getting a pass, /mans/ is unironically melting down
>>41536578first what? also who cares about 100k+ anymore
>>41536620Vesper gets either hate or apathy in here. People are pissed at Laplus because she actually had some fucking value and just threw it in the trash.
>>41535710I was never a unityfag. I will only watch hololive girls
>Minecraft kino back>Fauna streamed >Moom streaming>/mans/ meltdown>homo gradutation incomingFeeling pretty good right now holobros
>>41536191They've had Tempus 2 designs done since Tempus 1 probably. They just did all the merch together because why not. Still makes for awkward timing.
>>41534053The EN scene fucking sucks and was poisoned at birth by the heavy Twitch influences in everyone that wasn’t Myth and even Myth had some annoying elements of it. The complete lack of utaite roots means none of them have any aspirations to actually do anything more then be a Twitch streamer behind the avatar, which means the very few exceptions to this rule die in obscurity and have no support network, unlike JP where there are tons of relays, small time concerts, and other ways for them to stay afloat and garner attention because they’re all networked together since the JP doujin music scene is so small and incestuous, and even newcomers only need make one or two friend to get connected to the network.You can see this quite clearly in how things played out with TFT. Shitposting aside, there are more then a couple of other people who could stand on that stage and not feel out of place, and a whole bunch more who’re too small but could also fit someday. Meanwhile on EN, you have a singular person who’s actually dedicated to music and not just a streamer who sings sometimes, and it’s fucking Mori who’s divisive purely on a musical level even before getting into her personality. Even the dedicated Vsinger of HoloEN doesn’t seem to give a shit about her music and would much rather be a streamer these days. The complete lack of fucking hype that comes from there being zero fucking English focused events because there aren’t enough talents you could scrape together to make one means that there is no hype to build towards and no one gets nearly as heavily as invested in their oshi, in addition to music being a much more shareable way to convert new fans because it requires minimal time investment and doesn’t smack you over the face with it being a virtual performer if you have a prejudice against them.
>>41536694>implying Nijiniggers ever watch NijisTheir entire existence builds on opposing hololive. Without holo they'd be nobodies.
>>41536728Bro? There is literally a HoloEN cafe happening right now in TWAlso the Taco Bell sponsorship you guys are so proud of
>>41536545According to what some people in this thread have said they have magic numbers at the level of something like B2. Don't know if it's true, I've never used the platform.
>>41536432NijiEN just got 30k streams back to back and Enna's unarchived Karaoke got 19k, which none of the active member of EN can achieved right now, on top of Mumei only getting 11k for the long awaited EN minecraft + new server buff. It is actually over for holoEN.
Well since everyone is talking about homoshit I will just post a moom and say that she is cute.
>>41536638Their fault for pushing this HoloPro bullshit.
>>41536581It really is baffling because he collabed with Axel not too long ago, didn't he? Like last week they were drinking on stream. He wasn't too anxious for that, he didn't need his meds then. Something is completely fucked behind the curtain and it's crazy that for all the talk about the women being unstable basketcases, it's the men who are imploding in record time.
>>41536620lap missed a fucking 3D stream and a collab with like 6 professional announcements that were tied to actual brands, she did way more than just miss a fucking minecraft collab
>>41536764It's too late NOW, note how I said "in another world". It's basically a world where, instead of getting baited into Tempus, EN3 was actually smart and just focused on doing more for the girls.
>>41536620Twitter already tearing into him, /MANS/ in full meltdown mode.
>Gura likely gone>Laplus likely gone>Vesper likely goneWe in for an interesting year boys
>>41536620>vesper will get a passHe's unironically not, sisters are pissed. Only the "brotuber" "faggots" who constantly use him to shit on the Holo girls will defend him, but even some of them are getting tired of >no delivery
>>41536715Respecc frfr
https://youtu.be/diIX7sbAC7sKino
>half year anniversary merch for talents that debut 2 weeks agogenuinely what is Cover doing
>>41534691Do not disrespect my horse wife sheever
>>41536728More like holoEN has done nothing to grow the EN market. When your branch's biggest vtuber doesn't give a fuck you know it's fucked.
>>41536943I'm watching your oshi hooman
>>41536432HoloEN is doomed.
>>41536715actually kinda funny
>>41536853It'd be nice if more of HoloEN hopped on MC, but given everything else, it's certainly a good day to be a HoloUnity Chad.
>>41537026desperation to save a flopping branch
>>41536947Yeah, outside of Kronii where 1/3 of her shit was medical, another 1/3 was just unfortunate accidents and the last 1/3 was actually her fault, the rest of EN took at least a fucking year to properly burn out. Meanwhile you have this dude imploding less than 6 months in and he's not even a "leader" in any sense of the word AND ACTUALLY HASN'T FUCKING DONE SHIT the past 6 months outside of his shitty DND that he decided to absolutely fuck up by making it pre-recorded
>>41536876>These daysIRyS has never in her life given a fuck about "making it" as a singer, or anything else really. She's a peak western twitch thot that's just happy to coombait men for money to fund her worthless sedentary lifestyle into her 30s.
>>41537026Tempus is one single unit to Cover, no gens.The guys themselves don't see it like that which is why HQ and VG is a thing.
>>41536906>HoloEN cafe happening right now in TW>in TWwonderful. Great for the EN fans in TW, but what about the rest of the EN fans?>Taco Bellthat was over a year ago now, were in 2023 now
>>41536943Cute! Althougb a little autistic
Nice graph sisters
>>41536715What the fuck
>>41536876
>>41536943Watching Mumei makes me want to go back to college and grab a cute white gf but it's too late now.
>>41536906Gura was on a tiny screen in the background on an anime-themed commercial that only existed because of the Olympics. It was basically nothing in the long run.
>>41536715kek it's wild out there
>>41536715Man of his word. The anons betting their balls in this thread need to follow his example
>>41537026They're really leaning into this "All eight of them are Tempus, there are no gens!" idea. It's a stupid fucking idea.
>>41536526It's pretty much impossible to get chat numbers anymore, much less viewer data.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaWtre_QPewWe can go with CCV observations and ... this thread's activity.
>>41536853Here's hoping one of the couple collabs Fauna mentioned was a Minecraft one. Warmly waiting for her schedule.
>>41537239then everyone would be a eunuch
>>41537141What a fucking disasterI really dislike tempus but even I'm tempted to feel a little pity when I see situations like this
>>41537110 (me)Then again, they have the VIP stuff which is similar to the 1 on 1s that happen at the Cons in NA. And they only similar thing done to a cafe is the KFP booth selling chicken. But thats about it
>>41536620>>Vesper will get a passare you literally blind or not reading anything?
>>41536715hey man, that's respectable
>>41537092Mumei mentioned multiple ENs would be playing later this week
Jesus christ please someone join Mumei this is awful
>>41537282>wear an adidas track suit>get a sizeable Russian audiencewtf its that easy?
>>41536957But did she really deserve to be unpersoned by her genmates until Koyori realized it was a bad look and then started pretending like everything was fine?
>>41536715/mans/ turned out to be the most passionate EN fanbase in yearsIf Holopro EN is failing even them.. there is no hope.
>>41537154Finding someone like Mumei in universities is hard, everyone's a socialite and there's zero cute autists.
>>41536715I'm so entertained reading that thread right now
>>41537026Gaslighting attempt to deflect from them debuting 2 homo gens before EN3
>>41530001>>41531926>>41534138>>41535778>>41536764>holoJPDoesn't existIt's called "hololive"
>>41537373Man imagine if Pekora is on. She been waking up early
>>41536853The good times are here again.Now we only need Gura back
>>41537468oh no this fag again
>>41537282https://holochatstats.info/excl-chat.htmlUnderstandably, there are issues with this kind of tracking, but it's better than nothing.
Sisters started the homoshit talk again, it was so nice an hour ago
>mumei literally punching trees is beating the great tempus 6 months anniversary streamslmao
>>41537468Fuck off flip
>>41536979You ain't bro if you leave your mates high and dry because you are mad at your boss. He looks like a fucking sissy, worse than the HRT one.
ID management is much more competent than EN. What went wrong?
>>41536715/MANS/ is like the gutter of /CBDCT/. Lock them in there and set it on fire.
>>41537468KYS retarded flip.
>>41537468Based
>>41537530Why would anyone subject themselves to fags when a cute autistic owl is on?
>>41537570yeah, that's a woman behavior
>>41537450Not really. Anything general arts, writing, literature, "stem" fields like anthropology/sociology/environment sciences/biology and the three you're going to find in actual stem fit the bill. Not everyone is a Business/Finance/Law/PolSci thot.
>>41537468flipboy is back from his ban after posting CP
>>41537441would you blame them? she's literally fucking them over
>>41537450From my experience, they're more likely than you think, but they're usually surrounded by groups of girl friends so it's hard to figure out what they're like by themselves.
>>41537302No one's having sex anyway
>>41537468
>>41537468kys retard
>Back to 11k Mumei...
>>41537407>+ plays FPS wellYes.
>>41537570>violating the bros before hoes codeVesper is dead to them.
>>41537450depends on you major. I knew some girls that were kind of similar in my universities STEM school. They weren't quite as cute as Mumei thoughthey also don't really go out to typical social places. I only knew them because of living on the same dorm floor or going to the same class
I like cute girls. cute girls are great. What makes cover think I'll watch men when cute girls exist somewhere in this world.
>>41537017holy shit
>>41537699it's sunday night anonpeople have to work tomorrow
>>41537570based and correct take
>>41537699Minecraft attrition
>>41537587there's nothing particularly good about ID management. EN management is just utterly ridiculously bad
>>41537570yeah vesper is a bitch
>>41537450Well tbf, Mumei herself isn't really like most college girls, unless you think most college girls are drop outs that came back
>my real life friend is knowledgeable and fun to chat with>always ghost us and is generally hard to work with during projects.This hits too close to home.....
>>41536715what the fuck
>>41536489laugh, once fauna even comes close to kronii's subs ugly stinking incel sapling. even her member counts are shit compared to her. she just gets stray viewers cause people miss gura
>>41537520>>41537551>>41537592>>41537643>>41537668>>41537696>>41537697EN is a sidebranch who will never be accepted as hololive.
>>41537805Think it's more cause Kronii is starting in a few minutes and people are moving over tot he waiting room.
>>41537699Sunday night debuff. Selen still hasn't broken 30k yet unlike yesterday
>>41537898I wouldn't joke about this anon. There's a very real chance Fauna reaches 1 mil before Kronii
>>41537933Kronii is streaming?
>>41536620Mans really gaslight you thinking that everyone in vt think Vesper is le hecking based vampire that fight the management while he is just a bad hire who got suspended not even half a year into his career.
>>41537877wut?
>>41537835ID management were able to get a trip to Japan for ID1 booked, coordinated, funded and visa'd. Meanwhile EN management had no idea how the fuck they even got visas after applying for the wrong ones, getting them denied and just throwing their hands in the air and giving up just months before.
>>41537980kek
>>41537980https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nYdJcZCVrk
>>41537468Mumei just called them JP, so fuck off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RRwB9MS0dgNot even holoJP gives a fuck about EN anymore...
>>41537835ID management figured out karaoke perms before they even became an issue for EN.
>>41537770not me tho haha! someone please hire me
>>41538082>holoJPIt's called hololiveSee >>41537468
>>41538063>>41538069I removed her from holodex and always forget
Well it looks like Mori's 2nd group collab with vesper finished the job after he survived with just a suspension
>>41538082They are not obligated to care about a branch that doesn’t even care about themselves
>>41536620/cbdct/ is absolutely trashing him, he used to be that thread's darling too
Just find out there's no official post of Tempus 6 month anniversary on Hololive reddit, even no official post on Stars own reddit.
>>41538137Field?
Why do the /hlg/tards keep trying to insert their retarded jay pee shit into this? People are already doomposting and shitting on EN, can't you fags just join in instead of ONCE AGAIN going back to your 2 year old grudge against EN.
>>41537927post CP again man, this place was so peaceful with SEA banned
One day i want an interview from cover managers about their experience of managing multiple menheras.
>>41538156based>>41538203they knew discussion would revolve about vesper not being there
>>41538012>>41538100You're not really making an argument for ID management being good. I think they are, personally, but you're just listing things management should do because it's their fucking job. That EN management doesn't do any of that and gets away with it is ridiculous.
Current main copetheory is that this could be a management collab ban situation, interesting ideaBut I'm not sure I buy it, I think even if he had a collab ban they wouldn't bar him from the tempus 6 month anniversary. It's just bad optics.
>>41538205engineering mechanical & electrical
[Serious] If you were apart of EN management how would you handle the optics between Vesper and Tempus after the 6-month anniversary collab?
>>41536148>>41536715>expecting a yellow sister>got fat hairy SEAman Fuck now you fags are gonna use this pic every time Pekora steals gold, aren't you?
>>41538203That's because they already have a post up.
>>41537522>Korone down from 40% to 5%Jesus.Anyway, it does paint a clear picture with the oldest gens>3 big dropouts>Oct 2020>July 2021>March 2022Rushia being fired was more the final nail in the coffin for EN's relations with JP. HoloFest and ID3 just extended it for 1 more month.The exception being - Azki and Suisei, still going strong.
https://poal.me/2ffor2https://poal.me/2ffor2
>>41538266Myth hard carried EN management so hard that JP management thought they were competent.
>>41537066The irony is that I'm not a hooman, I just like Mooms
>>41538344Fuck off back to mans.
>>41538316>management collab banThe notion that he would be banned from the first collab with the new boys and the half-anni collab is ridiculous. They would for sure want him there to shill the new boys and the anni merch.He also had no problem collabing with girls earlier in the week. It's pure cope.
>>41538318>electricalHow? I'm afraid now lmao
>>41538316Man sisters are ridiculous. They live in some parallel universe where management hates Tempus.
What will happen if Tempus was under Shinove instead?
>>41538214I never posted CP and I was never banned.
>>41538318What the fuck, are you sure you're even trying to get a job?
>>41537119You say that like it's a negative
>>41537026desperation, if they can't get their own luxiem at least they can get some money to make it a decent business decision
>Myth were formed out of Western demand. >ID2 hiring requirements were to be trilingual in order to support and interact with the new golden goose Myth gen>Council hires all deliberately all extroverted / neurotypical to counteract Myths autism, failed Takamori ship, and general antisocial behavior>Holox hires prioritized a group of girls who could all get along even before debut to prevent another Gen 5>ID3 hires in direct response to the complaints of ID2 being "EN lite" and never speaking IndonesianYou should be able to figure out what EN3 is. There's enough data.
>>41537026Gura isnt getting her Daki since that will piss of the new SJW Tempiss sisters and management. Sorry Gura~
>>41537141>they sacrificed holoEN for this
>>41538377>something elseKronii...
>>41538316This is some "Gura is just busy and going to release an album on her birthday" levels of cope.
>>41536764>that's too many hopes on an EN3Myth and Council needed coverage for their absences over Christmas and New Years, and Ina and Gura's long hiatuses.Ina's return is proof enough that a significant amount of fans didn't move over to the homos or indies when EN was all deadhours for days on end.We still need EN3, and the standards are lower than ever. >streams a few times a week>doesn't shit on fans>clearly communicates their position to gachikoisis the fucking bar.
Another day another nijisanji English gold. HoloProEN is crumbling at its own stupidity. I hope Yagoo debut more Tempus because that would really help. Helping nijisanji that is kek.
>>41538266I've yet to see JP management successfully plan, fund, coordinate and obtain work visas for an international work trip for a gen.
>>41537468ad infinitum ad nauseam
>>41538505>>Holox hires prioritized a group of girls who could all get along even before debut to prevent another Gen 5?Gen 5 get along with each other just fine, way better than Gen 4
ENsharts will always have low viewsENsharts will always have low superchat numbersENsharts will always be treated as special guests because none of the girls give a shit about themENsharts will continue to begENsharts will always be a failureI will never watch a ENshart streamI will never reply to a ENshart postI will always wish for graduation of ENshartsENshart posters will always be shitposters and falseflaggers trying to get (you)’s because not even ENshart posters actually watch ENsharts, you just love baiting with ENshart images
>>41538318mech/elec eng should be recession proof. keep trying anon, you'll get it.
5k chuuba btw
>>41538316But he literally collabed with axel not long ago
>>41538316copium overdose
>>41538525>pain>not PainRySRetarded.
the worst part is that even after having Tempus2 ready they still shilled the StarsEN auditions...
>>41538372Of course, this i ignoring all the chat changes YT has done over the years>introducing Top chat>soft capping to ~1k chat/min>hiding a lot of "undesirable" chatsFor which it's really hard to account the impact of. Both in numbers and in viewers participation willingnessEspecially for Korone, there was a moment when posts /here/ were saying Kaigai's dropped her since they were in the chat, but if you switched to "Live chat" it was still ~50% EN chat, a lot of greynames.
>>41538505Gen 5's issue was that Aloe was a menhera, and they ended up getting that with Laplus anyways. You're thinking of Gen 4 that has horrible gen unity.
Grim
>>41538614Uhh BASED alarm???
>>41538505>Council hires all deliberately all extrovertednani
first time watching mumei She's INCREDIBLY cute but... Isn't this a little boring? Is she always like this
>>41538614Do ENs break 1k mengifus?
>>41538614Based
>>41538316I'll take niji shitposting over another serving of homocope.
>>41538316Suuure. And that's why he was in monopoly collab.
>>41538636I remember EN's number one can't fix her OBS and had to delay her Big Brain Game lmao
>>41538614holy bait
>>41538266I think ID management are competent, they crush a lot of antis and people also claim they snoop in doxx discord and terminate people who mid project with ID members, they have connection at least to be aware of their surrounding.
Mooms numbers are stable.
* FINAL 24HRS VOD TALLY FOR 01/21/2023 *(View growth after 1 hour at end of each line)>897,809 Kuzuha (ANYCOLOR) (103.7%)>599,394 Tokoyami Towa (COVER) (124.1%)>459,084 Sakura Miko (COVER) (40.5%)>379,128 Usada Pekora (COVER) (67.4%)>376,093 Eli Conifer (ANYCOLOR) (759.0%)>338,611 Finana Ryugu (ANYCOLOR) (706.4%)>285,210 Oozora Subaru (COVER) (25.0%)>271,254 Kenmochi Toya (ANYCOLOR) (126.9%)>251,403 Lauren Iroas (ANYCOLOR) (60.1%)>238,834 Hinano Tachibana (Brave Group) (35.9%)>227,285 Lauren Iroas (ANYCOLOR) (130.3%)>227,039 Hakui Koyori (COVER) (34.3%)>202,343 Shirakami Fubuki (COVER) (96.9%)>184,431 Shibuya HAL (Neo-Porte) (79.4%)>177,287 Hyakumantenbara Salome (ANYCOLOR) (206.8%)>177,042 Shigure Ui (Indie) (225.3%)>176,077 Yuuki Chihiro (ANYCOLOR) (156.7%)>165,716 Kanae (ANYCOLOR) (138.2%)>161,181 NeruMero (Indie) (139.6%)>159,408 Nekota Tsuna (Brave Group) (115.6%)>151,319 Fuwa Minato (ANYCOLOR) (55.9%)
>>41538716its Minecraft.
Meanwhile
>>41538716i don't think game streams are her forte
>>41538737>Mori finally gets around to naming the 4-man group (The Squad)>Vesper graduates
>>41538611>Gen 5 - close family>Gen 4 - extended familyThey both get along fine in their own way.
>no threads about the homo anniversary on reddit whatsoeverunreal. they can't muster mindshare without the girls even in their stronghold
>>41538470Just part of her charm
>>41538716Yes. Mumei's main content these days is just her acting cute and then mumbling about her personal life (college, her day, etc). You basically have to be parasocial to be a hooman
>>41538681t. Pippa shillI would say only Myth (yes all Myth) are gemstones of varying quality while all other are duds. PC only have 1 that is not dud and that is Pippa but she is not a gem she is a leech with multiple mouths.
Man, that Tempus half-anniversary merch is fucking garbage. Stickers and a plastic cards? Even NijiEN offers more than that for half-anniversaries.
>holoENOh no no no no
>>41538716It's very game dependent. The chicken feet game was actually a really good showing from her.
>>41532039it's not that en interest died in jp it;s just that all the viewers are shadowbanned and dont count as viewers. These clips probably have twice the views if it wasnt for susan blocking legit viewers
>People, in general, liked Laplus until she made a fool of her genmates>People, in general, liked Vesper until he made a fool of his genmatesTHEY ARE
>>41538804Truth is they mishandled Ollie popularity explosion and then Kobo's.
>>41538716very boring, if she didn't have her random outbursts
>>41538614>Baitposting this hardWhy are you like this retarded flipfag?Did your mother drop you on your head when you were a child?Don't use her to shitpost, I'm sick of you fags so much, running away whenever she plays jRPGS and only shitposting when she gets big numbers.
>>41538870Hard to shill and damage control at the same time kek
>>41538716Mooms best content are zatsus or anything that doesn't involve gaming
>>41538913Since Gen3 every single holo comes AFTER the gen. Not even Pekora/Marine could get away with snubbing sankisei
>>41538706Probably a streamer-heavy group of hags. Hopefully with someone that has the personality, responsibility and presence to be a natural leader for HoloEN because they really need one.
>>41531982Kek
>>41538870The mod probably doesn't want a thread, imagine the shitshow.
>>41538924ollie brought that upon herself to get groomed like that desu
>>41534053Animation and it’s relatives in the West will always be viewed as a niche for children and that weird guy who doesn’t shower
>>41538924I think it hard when you in an agency that priorities talent happiness than number. At least kobo have stop her non stop valo spam, that good for now.
>>41538870T-chan doesn't want to have to deal with any negative publicity, and Vesper skipped the collab conspicuously after having streamed literally a few hours before it
>>41538716There's two types of solo gaming streams for Mumei: the ones where she's cute and the game compliments her personality and the ones where she's cute but boring. There's no in-between.
>>41538913People liked Laplus until she went rm route. For me personally I'm completely done with her after she pulled Fantia.
>>41539181Uhh, just lock the subreddit from the mad incels :^)
Oh by the way, on top of Vesper being a no show, Cover decided in their BRILLIANT MINDS to make the Acryllic stands not made to order so people are upset that they "can't buy more than 1 because it wouldn't be fair to the other fans" despite wanting to buy a bunch, or they're mad that they can't wait to order it on Vesper's birthday because it might be sold out by then. BRAVO COVER
Vesper in Kronii's chat
>>41538924They mishandled their own popularity. You seem to misunderstand what management does. They don't dictate your streaming content. Ollie's manager has time and time again tried to get her to stop spamming Apex and she always goes back to it. Imagine Kobo/Valorant is the same.
>>41535086Axia…
>>41538897You know what? I am watching wrestlesanji. Since Tempus2 debut I gave nijiEN a serious chance. Pomu is too boring for me to watch and I don't like fps so Selen is out. All 3 of the Xsoleil girls are pretty good. Aloucucks may have a cuck fetish but their oshi Enna is pretty good at singing too. For EN songs her range is much better than Gura and her unarchived karaoke is actually worth a watch.
>>41539181>>41539062>>41538986It's not like the mod is stopping fans from MAKING a thread. It's just...no one is.
>>41539064ID management is hands off. Its like a parent that lets their daughter do whatever, they get pregnant, dumped and then they come back running to their parents already damaged goods. This is ollie in a nutshell, and Kobo isnt far off.
>Lamy has become the most live translated vtuberThe hell? She was dead last back in early 2021.Some people really took that to heart.
>>41539236The problem always comes up when they start to prioritize the rm while neglecting the holo side. Happened to Shion and is now happening to Laplus (which is funny since they're both friends).
>>41539311Anon he is a fucking retard but he's not THAT retarded
>>41539311that would be absolutely hilarious
>>41538870see >>41538368A pinned meme video by a well known fan animator has 75 comments after a full day. I don't really know how good or bad that is for reddit because I have less gay things to do with my time, but that strikes me as pretty slow. 'Literally no one gives a fuck' slow. No point shilling if you aren't getting bites.
>>41537286One of them is probably that girls talk collab organized by Kiara that was supposed to be in December but got postponed.
>>41538896Star merch is typically cheap stuff like like little acrylic knick-knacks. I don't think the Homos have as many actual female fans who'll buy it and take the usual pictures of it like the Stars do though.
>>41539366Rushia died in early 2022.
>>41535489If you only count 1 on 1 for Fauna but count every collab with both in it for Vesper than sure.
>>41539439That's fine too, I've been waiting for that shit
>>41539291Limited, not made to order stuff is standard for shitters who aren't expected to pull lots of numbers. Probably easier to produce a set number of x than keep the contract in limbo based on orders. Like if you were a manufacturer you would want guaranteed sales, not the possibility you have to make 60 of things. And limited shit can get resold at holofes or shipped to EN con booths for reselling.
>>41536876Just call yourself a deadbeat and be done with it. Mori does those things from aspirations, to connections to the doujin music scene and she even counts as an ex-utaite. Everything you're looking for is found in Mori yet you probably won't count that because it's Mori.
>>41539062A 6-month anniversary celebration with no fanfare is worse
TempusGOD status?
>>41535792Mori’s doing alrightINB4 MUH CCV she’s a musician dummy.
>>41539291Why would you "wait to order it on his birthday" when you won't get it until well after if you do that. Seems like made up complaints. If it's limited stock buy it if you want it.
>>41539520owning the HoloEN incels and crashing the branch with no survivors. We won NijiChads!
>>41539559>Why would you "wait to order it on his birthday" when you won't get it until well after if you do that.Shipping you absolute mongoloid. Are you fucking stupid?
KRONII 4K DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Pomu is cringe.
>>41539291huh. there's at least 1000 qty for Altare when i checked. interesting
>>41539366Lamy's TL is a beast, he's always there, no matter the hour, how long is the stream and also shows up on other channels when Lamy is collabing with other people without a POV
>>41539381And both of them are young. With Haachama they are the three youngest Holo.
>>41539446It unraveled around late February didn't it?
>>41538924Because they have no idea if what the talent did was good or bad. For example, Ollie getting close to a bunch of cloutchaser, you can't say it's bad at that time because it did give her a good number and boost plus Ollie was treating it as networking
>>41539291>can't buy more than 1Do they just not know how the JP Stars fans work? Are they fucking stupid? That's probably the only chance they're going to have to make actual money off these faggots.
>>41539592What about it?
>>41536245Mori is Hololives number 1 raper.Real knows real
>>41539663Yes, when the tanks rolled in. I thought it would be over soon but it is still going on this winter. This year Wagner became my favorite composer because he is the only one that is helping her while the entire world is against her.
>>41539663Right around Valentine's, with her firing happening near the end of Feb yea.
>>41539707No, it's self imposed. That's what makes it all the more retarded. >>41539756>Bundle and only have to pay $30~ shipping once>Buy it separately and have to pay $25~ shipping twiceUse your fucking brain
>>41539707They think this shit is going to sell like hotcakes so its unfair to buy multiple. Hahah yeah I'm sure there's entire virtual lines of people trying to buy bazoinks acryllics!
>>41539291Weird, why? To ship sooner?
>>41539780no, that would be miko
>>41539606Fuck you
>>41539599This is why HoloEN are lazy, boring shit like Minecraft got them 10k+ while their game choice only get 4-7k
>>41539680anon anyone who was there could tell all the cloutchasers wanted Gura but settled for ID.
>>41539343Supreme bait.
>>41539850>To ship sooner?Apparently. Release date is Mid february while the stickers/id cards are made to order and releasing much later.
>>41536556Rape is okay if you get big numbers.T.Miko
>>41539827So you're saying his fans are poor?
You guys do know that vesper left his anxiety meds at home so he can't really stream without them and that why he not in the collab. The only reason he was in the monopoly collab is that he can't say no to senpai request if you watch streams you would have realize this.
>>41539863Sorry but I am busy. That gargling sound she made just now? It is because she was swallowing my dick.
>>41539291>>41539627(me)and when checking Gavis, he had at least 800 qty avaiable
>>41537669Not at all. I bet if she showed up she wouldn't have been de facto fired.
>>41539942I wish you'd stop pretending to be retarded. It's not only Starsfans that do this
>>41539832>They think this shit is going to sell like hotcakes
>>41539827>>41539832>it's self imposed>its unfair to buy multipleThey really don't watch the JP guys at fucking all, that's how they manage to make bank whenever they make their merch and these idiots are fucking it up.
>>41539356I'm betting they're being deleted as off topic or something. Sisters are pretty pissed on other socials like twitter.
>>41539850To ship it before Vesper graduates so they don't have to offer a refund or worse.Tempus is getting the ID treatment of limited merch now.
>>41539974>muh anxietydon't care. only women get to pull this excuse and that's cause I think with my cock.
>>41539974Why not just ask axel manager, i bet they have tons of those.
>>41539976I'm actually watching Mumei because I hate like half the people in the wrestling thing but still fuck you.
>>41539974So go the fuck back home and get them, what, he's gonna stay in 2 months in Japan when he's apparently so mentally crippled without his meds?
I want mumei pussy
>>41538924it's the same stance as "talent can do whatever they want" idk if JP management did the same thing
>>41540028nta, I'm not picking up what you're putting down. How does JP merch work in general?
>>41536876>The complete lack of utaite rootsSPOOKY SCARY SKELETONS SEND SHIVERS DOWN YOUR SPINE
>>41539974>Has anxiety issues, forgets meds and can't do his job properly as a resultSounds like a skill issue.
>magni 5k>Kronii 4k>Owl whore 10k>Axel 4kEasy 23k HoloEN box. Idk why you guys are melting down~
>>41540028Buying 50 copies of the same piece of shit and making a shrine is a very asian thing, idk if Tempus fans will do that. I suppose if they sell out of the limited run they can raise the amount next time but they'll probably get stuck with a bunch of leftovers and end up selling them at cons.
>>41539291idk who said you cant buy more than one, i just added 1k qty into my cart and it had no issues doing so
>>41540177Vshojo = holoID ???
>>41540222your mom is a whore
>>41540222>long awaited minecraft stream>drama filled 6th month anniversary for tempus>kronii sub 5kgrim
>>41537026Well you see it’s all one group so you can’t be mad over debuting 4 more cocks over EN3
>>41540250It's the fans doing it because they don't know how much merch are actually in stock. The western fans want to be "fair" instead of just buying it all out despite wanting to buy 5+. If this was made to order it wouldn't be an issue
>>41540222>Easy 23k HoloEN box.Now look at nijiEN.
>>41539974>vesper left his anxiety meds at homeSounds like something he deliberately did just so he could have excuses not to stream.
>>41540109she doesnt have a pussy, she has a cloaca. You still want Anon?
>>41540028I don't think they were impressed with the sales of the first Tempus merch runs so they're going to make everything limited to drum up FOMO and get guaranteed sales. From when merch leaks were still happening, ID only managed to sell around ~$30k worth of merch during Risu's sales period iirc.
>>41528345Jesus, I knew I said I wouldn't watch him but I thought he'd be the break out success of the four
>>41540393The worst part is he doesn't even have the paypigs.
>>41539656Chloe isn't that much older than them but seems decades older in contrast.
>>41540109moossy
>>41528345This is the reason that Gura wont get her daki. New EN fan base doesnt want any pedo shit.
Wait these SCs on a whole are a depressing jesus fuck
>>41540190Like what this anon said >>41540226Shien fans are the one I've seen most often do it, they buy up FUCK loads of his merch, rent out those fancy little rooms you can get for things like photoshoots, cosplay photos, etc. and then dress up all nice like they're on a date with their boyfriend and there's just an absolute ton of merch around them. Some of the ones I'd seen had to be in the thousands of dollars, and there's a good number of them who do it, so they make a good chunk of change even on just some cheap plastics. Shien likes and encourages that kind of thing too. I wish I'd saved a few of them.
>>41540268sorry worded that poorly, but the Kronii collab statement from EN management, It's clear that ID management had that stance from the start
>>41540457>20k dollarinoIt is not bad.
>>41538082Cope
>>41540563Only 5-10 thousand dollars in two weeks? I'm going to break down in tears here, how will they ever feed themselves?
>>41540563>The most boring one is making the most moneyWhat
>>41540393Apparently larping as a vtuber seems to be a huge debuff for en viewers, the same seems to be happening to the other nijien guy. In the end, westerners just want twitch streamers with an avatar.
>>41540563Not really. That is pretty good for some "side hustle" as your NAfags like to call it.
Why do sidebranches get shit management? I don't even want to see what holoES will look like
>>41540563>>41540681>holoEShe's right there
>>41540681ID management seems pretty ok. They just live and let live.
>>41534053EN-speaking Asia market is also bigger than Western market. Is it that surprising?
>>41540563>$36lemao
>>41540681Will dissolve faster than HoloCN
>>41540663This is the most lucrative time period of their careers. You make $5,600 you're walking away with $2k in your pocket. It's not bad for 2 weeks, it's like idk..what a cop makes or something, but if that's the most you're gonna ever make and it's only downhill from there, that's not good.
>>41539236The general public doesn't pay attention to roommates. The general public didn't turn on her until the no show.
>>41540504Chloe was a gambling addict she’ll do anything to make sure she doesn’t lose money
>>41540669>most boringHe's the most interesting one
>>41540663Anon there's always a huge burst when you open SCs. It becomes much less as time goes on. This is not a good sign.
>>41538851HoloDeath…CHaDCast is okay though.
>>41535151why are EOPs like this?
If their merch stock is limited, do we know how much it is?It'd be funny to see if some of them fail to sell out.
>>41540883I guess never judge a vtuber by their debut
>>41540757>2nd highestSpics are rich?!
>>41540842>making as much as a cop playing video games at home to hordes of cute fawning fangirls instead of getting shot at by black peopleYeah I think they'll be fine
>>41539974Maybe for a day that excuse works, I lived there for 10 years, they have shrinks and you can just make an appointment and get a similar prescription. They even have emergency fast appointments, he went to japan, not a third world country. t.guy with anxiety who lived in japan
>>41540965More like they don't know how to handle their income.t. Spic.
>>41540985>hordes
>>41541009Spic here. Can confirm. We over spend on cute girls and end up eating maruchan the rest of the quincena
>>41540985Did you miss the 'it's only downhill from this part', sister? Talk about selective recognition.
>>41536715you wish this thread was this entertaining
>>41539366>>41539648Basically. Though it also helps that she barely streams now.
It's funny to think that we could soon have literal millionaires like Gura and Mori in the same branch as people struggling to feed themselves. Goes to show that their actions actually fucked over their future co-workers and weren't some moral 'anti-numberfag' stand.
>>41540985Literally half of Flayon's total SCs was his SC opening stream. The rest of his streams look like fucking this
>>41540681Because they managed by the japs who don't understand burger/indog culture
>>41539974Mori was completely off her meds and still streamed. It’s not his fault men are just so emotional and fragile compared to women.
What is this shit? Full screen for handcam? No vtuber model? Without the cheap Chinese-made Acrylic shilling and the channel icon below I would've thought this is from some 2view fleshstreamer.Tempus is a joke.
>>41541177Yeah, Mori has really let down Tempus, she didn't do nearly enough to help and promote them.
>>41541213>Aster-tier
>>41539484It’s amazing how you can miss the point that hard. I was praising Mori for actually having aspirations, but she is literally the only one on the EN side and can’t carry the entire scene on her back even if she wanted to actually make good on her initial talk of uplifting indies which turned out to just be her existent friends. You can’t build an entire EN focused concert event like Vtuber FES around Mori’s very hit or miss music, and even if you tried who else could you get who’d actually fit with a desire for stage performances? Yfu Baby and Kiara? Mouse in her sickbed? Even if you expanded it to more generalized music, that still only has a small handful of midgets like Chapipi. Meanwhile on the JP side, you have intense competition for even the tiniest stage since it’s a shared aspiration amongst a large portion of vtubers, even down to the retards on the Reality app. Having an oshi isn’t supposed to be about being a parasocial groomer, but trying to help them shine on stage and the EN scene as a whole doesn’t work with this model and as a result it doesn’t inspire the same level of fanatic devotion that is key to spreading the scene. The problems I have with Mori are based on her personality, but that doesn’t mean I can’t acknowledge that she’s largely something that the EN scene desperately needs more of, as well as a corporate entity that’s willing to take the risk of trying to organize multi participant concerts so the few girls who actually have some ambition beyond collecting SC money have something to work towards.
>>41541213I honestly wouldn't be able to cope if this were me. This dude is going to have to get a real job if this is what his money looks like. This is 2 weeks after debut
>>41540681I have heard less complaints about ID management than I have about the JP one.
>>41541177No one in HoloEN is struggling to feed themselves. Eat shit homonigger, you're not and never will be a holoEN member
>>41541249Tbf Mori off her meds had some pretty bad yabs. Maybe Vesper knows the only thing standing between him and calling Axel the n-word on stream to his face is a funny little pill.
>>41541259WHY ISNT MORI TWEETING
My personal rrat is still on vesper getting into a really bad fight with others. All management can do is separate them to prevent more conflict unless u want to to go the terminate option. I don't know if he will survive the one year contract.
>>41541213so thtas still enough to eat mcdonalds every day if he wants to
>>41541414You memoryholed Aruran asking the other Stars for money to buy basic necesities.
>>41541414BASED, and well said.
>>41541408Because no one gives a fuck about them
>>41541213>Most of these stream make less money than I did when I was working at fucking Home Depot
>>41541464Contracts might have been signed in April or May
>>41541464not participating in the gen 6th month anni while having a stream earlier in the same day is pretty much a death sentence
>>41541213Reminder that they only get one paycheck a month.
>>41541488That's before Gura even exists. You know he debuted in 2019 right?
>>41541488He's a part of StarsJP anon.
>>41541213Taking into account they only get to keep a fraction of supas this dude might as well get a regular job
>>41541488Aruran isnt Hololive/HoloJP either retard
>>41541488At the beginning of starsJP, yes. You're delusional if you think starsEN is in the same position, they were handed free money and notoriety by leeching from the girls unlike starsJP.
>>41541488>Aruran>holoENuh huh
>>41541488>Aruran>Same branch as HoloEN or HoloJPWhat?
>>41541464he's literally off his meds and is using alcohol as a substitute. he will fuck up opsec for sure so he fucked off
>>41541213These people don't even make enough to buy food
>>41541488Anon, StarsJP gets sponsors and merch out the ass now compared to back when Aruran was a poor SOB.
>>41541213they technically are contract workers working with a dealt upon amount other than the superchats right?
>>41541543Based on Sana it was 1.5 months before debut for her. So probably closer to June or maybe late May.
>>41538896The cards are cool, but it should of been a bonus
>>41541420https://youtu.be/5rYAZyS3Q_8IRyS and Bae not knowing MCR isn’t that bad man
>>41541659How's that even possible? with my budget I can pay all my bills and put food on the table for about 1.2k dollars a month. a little less in spring and fall. I mean my house and car are paid off but if you live within your means, low rent and used car plus cheap groceries, you should be able to live on low wages.
>>41541414Fauna literally talked about not being able to buy a purse that goes beyond 30 bucks but ok you do you anon.
>>41541877That shit was funny because she was begging for Fauna
Never watched Tempoop so i wouldnt know. Which of the 2/4 seem to be the ones they got afterwards? The one who fucked his debut? and who else?
>>41541897Where do you live
>>41541942Texas.
>>41541919Did you hear like every fourth word she said when she was talking about that or something?
Not a single thread on the official Hololive subreddit about Tempus 6 month anniversary management lost the hugbox
>>41541897He's being hyperbolic. Remember they get a basic salary, memberships, ad rev, merch in addition to SCs.
>>41541937the bara one for sure
>>41541694Their income consists of>Whatever YT revenue they get, ~35% of the total since YT takes 30% and cover takes 35% (SC, Adrev, Memberships)>Merch, whatever it is>Whatever baseline income they get that all holopro members get
>>41541919>Fauna literally talked about not being able to buy a purse that goes beyond 30 bucksNo, she said she couldn't JUSTIFY it. She's been taking vocal lessons since she got monetization and bought a Ku100 3-4 months after debut. Or did you forget that?
>rrat that he is fighting with managementwhen he got suspended for something worse>rrat that he is off his meds and can't streamwhen he clearly can collab with the girls but not the boys.What other rrats that mans trannies and sisters are trying to fee this thread?
>>41541919Damn but you must be stupid
>>41541177If there was EN3, we could literally have another mllionair instead of tempus
>>41542003Thanks for the epic reddit report bro
>>41542003Very surprising desu. Maybe T-chan is also with Axel currently.
>>41541919She goes heavy on the SC bait since her cat died
>>41541919Goddamn, even a clipwatcher could understand what she was saying, your English comprehension is in the gutter anon.
>>41541512And you were getting the full amount, not 20% after taxes.
>>41541919Retard
Reminder, the most sane vtuber.
>>41541919Absolute retard ESL
>>41542208You don't pay taxes when working at Home Depot?
>>41539291The management at EN is hardly smart, it's fair to say that they're retarded. Even ID sold out their merch.
The Hologirls should've had a watchalong for the Tempus2 debuts baka
would you really give up your branch's unity for a crumble of korean menhera pissy?
>>41542236Welcome to holoEN 3
>>41542291If I got into Holostars I would absolutely drop everything for a chance to fuck my oshi yes
>>41542169retard
>>41542291Isn’t he the guy who called himself a 40yr old virgin? Maybe.
>>41542281management was funneling every possible view towards their debuts
>>41542258Nah. I got free Gatorade sometimes though.
>>41542291I would say no but if i was in Tempus i would ditch ever faggot in my gen to get IRyS or Gura to notice me.....
>>41541969Maybe I should leave Aus…
>>41542236hearing her crying over her dead kitty cat was heartbreaking desu
>>41540681HoloRU with only Botan and Ollie
>>41542291Yes but not the blue one
>>41542291In Vesper's case, I think this is his last shot before the 50's.
>>41542291Honestly? Probably.
>>41542441NGL I'd do the same for Mumei or Gura, I'll still judge the shit out of the homos for it though. I'd expect to be judged in turn, and I wouldn't give a damn.
>>4154229190% of this board has crippling yellow fever equivalent to Mori’s.
Wtf is kronii's graph and why is her graph always so fucked
>>41542291For Kronii? Nah. Id absolutely drop my guildmates for Irys though....
>>41542611Honorary vshoujo
>>41541328Because EN market is just weebs who are content with watching their droning and pointless slice of life anime, and vtubers are just a replacement of that. These people have no desire of pushing their oshis to the absolute limit they can reach and would rather just be their adult babysitters/surrogate mothers. The EN viewerbase, as it stands, does not reward vtubers like Chappipi unless she manages to break into new demographics. And it's difficult for smaller vtubers to take that risk because they do not have the financial support to do that without killing their own channel. The only company with that power, and I dare say RESPONSIBILITY, to expand the market to include fresh view viewers with a more balanced fan expectations is Cover yet they choose to seek Luxiem fujo scraps over trying new things. I have no problem with StarsEN, but I do have problems with them doing the same exact thing as the girls except Vesper, Flayon and perhaps Magni.There is no infrastructure for cooperation between various vtubers because for the firs two years the retarded EN management decided to close off Myth and then Council from ever interacting from the outside with only Mori and Kiara fighting against it. Now that the scene is more diverse they have little influence what goes on it because they did not participate in it's formation; only interacting with indies, small corpos nijis now when the opportunity to "groom" the entire scene is now over.
>>41542471Everything is cheaper in Texas, Homes cost like $30K less than the national average because there is so much space. Meanwhile Cali houses are like $200k more than the national average~
>1000 replieswhat did anons talk about?
>>41542472Honestly I had to stop watching her cause I got way too attached. She really brings out the savior fag in me and I just can't do that shit.
>>41542558Mumei probably talks with them behind the scenes. She just keeps it out of her stream. She doesn't mind males but she knows what her audience wants.
>>41542686Jannies are working hard on the catalog.
>>41542291korean and menhera are redundant. But yes.
>>41542686How cute Fauna and Mumei are, and how bad tempiss is
>>41542688That’s why Californians are moving to Texas and driving prices up.
>>41542558Exactly, i would fully expect my numbers to tank and for my antis to increase 10 folds. Wouldnt care tho, which might be Vespers way of thinking lmao
>>41541177Depends on how good the HoloEN members own sense of money management, they can spend to the point of bankrupcy even if they earn millions a year.
>>41542698Take your meds
>>41542731Kronii is significantly more menhera compared to the other holoKR
>>41542688I bought my house in Texas for $60k cash on 1 acre 10 years ago. It needed some work but I just did the repairs over the years. Probably can't find one at that price anymore outside of really small towns now though.
>>41542688For the love of god get me out of here
>leeching from the girls: 22k>anniversary: sub 10kWhat is this?
>>41542688Texas has become increasingly more expensive over the years. So it’s not some super-cheap place to live like Alabama.
Kyo and Enna in the ringI repeat!! Kyo and Enna in the ring now!Aloucucks it is out favourite content!!!
Some list of the highest accomplishments achieved by a Holomember from every gen:Suisei - Sang at the First Take, has 2 sololiveFBK - tons of sponsored stream, met with some western actressAqua - A VN game from her, a sololive, redbull ambassadorPekora - Made everyone her bitchTowa - won two CR cupsLamy - recognized in a wine organizationLaplus - met with robert pattinson/manga adaptationsMori - Sololive, collabs with popular artistsCouncil - lolStarsJP - a few collabs here and there with popular seiyuus and sugitaStarsEN - lolNijiEN - lol
>>41542904They should have invited the girls as guest to their anni
Moonahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sb5oLAHnhl4
>>41542934The cuck content that everyone is waiting for in wrestlesanji.
I thought Minecraft is not buff anymore
>>41542969Nice try deadbeat
WHERE THE FUCK IS EN3?!?!
>>41543018Buffs for MC are in rotations, sometimes is, sometimes is not.
>>41542291I wouldn't risk it for any of these EN whores. Choco, Mel or Noel and maybe Id have to think about it.
>>41542969Gura = Taco Bell
>>41542969when i was making this, i kinda realized something went wrong after myth. Scouting was probably done by JP since they got 3 rights, but afterwards it all went downhill. It may be because they wanted everyone to be good singers, but not good streamers and unironically fauna was to be the asmr artist in the gen but somehow she became the best streamer and popular girl in council
>>41542852Anon, I have watched kdramas, listened to the occasional kpop shit, and learned about the feminist death cult. All korean women are menhera
>>41543152Fauna isn't the most popular council girl lol
https://twitter.com/hololivepro_EN/status/1617384488715288576https://twitter.com/hololivepro_EN/status/1617384488715288576https://twitter.com/hololivepro_EN/status/1617384488715288576
>>41542897How's Perth doing these days? Had a friend move over there to work at some logistics stuff
>>41542936Texas (and Florida) are the conservative version of California. Bunch of conservatives move there like it’s some sort of Mecca. Texas has even been getting more rolling black-outs. Soon it’ll be exactly like California but being surrounded by obese rednecks.
>>41542688Come to Detroit, bros. Prime real estate here.
>>41543097Omega will think about it after they pass the starsJP record.
>>41542904no vesper you can see the moment they said he wouldn't be there >>41535003
>>41542682It's sad that you have to explicitly spell this out to a thread that blows their loads exclusively over the most bargain basement twitch variety streamers in EN and largely shuns the rest.
>>41537974sure, keep dreaming
>>41542934I got cucked from 30k, I'm mad.
>>41543281Elon Musk is the prime example of such conservative.
>>41543018Minecraft is back in style I think
>>41543281Soda and vei is moving to a new house in texas.
>>41543294212 days away from 2 years! Fuck...
Tempus antagonizing and walling off their most popular member who is pretty much single handedly carrying their branch is a curious move
>>41542682I absolutely agree, and it’s a shame the audience doesn’t realize that you can have SoL stuff but have it be so much more meaningful when it’s in the context of someone chasing a goal, which is why Suisei is so compelling since you get the contrast between the girl who goes up and gives her all with the tetris autist screaming about how she’s not a pedophile. However, at this point the EN audience is largely solidified and it’s missing that core tenant that is actually idolfagging instead of the obsession with males that it has come to mean in Western parlance, and as a result it doesn’t have the staying power that people actually invested in their oshi’s journey and success have on the JP side, which is a vicious feedback cycle since there is no desire for those concerts that an outside organizer might want to fulfill and the girls who would be driven to work harder for that goal just coast along or drop out, even the biggest names like Gura who pretty clearly was super excited to get on stage even as Okayu’s guest.
>>41542969>met with robert pattinson/manga adaptationsThis is just Cover putting them in promotional material though, not a Laplus achievement. Literally any other Holo could have done it.
>>41543294>600 fucking days... Man, I understand the sisters a bit now lol
>>41543261Gotta make sure the $100 shipping rate still works
>>41543294wew maybe they should accelerate a bit
>>41543281little known history, the people who ran the enron scam that gave california rolling blackout in early 2000 are from texasguess what they're doing now?
>>41543407Imagine being surrounded by a bunch of morbidly obese Elon Musks.
>>41543152>It may be because they wanted everyone to be good singers, but not good streamersThey prioritized being 'multi-talented/high-spec' over 'liking streaming'
>>41543281obese rednecks are super cool. They took my Mexican ass to shoot shit ton of guns and we blew some shit up before we had barbecue
>>41543285They have the gall to even sell at that price, put out the standard 1$ at least.
>>41542682How do you know it was management's idea not to interact outside hololive and not the girls' themselves?
https://twitter.com/usadapekora/status/1617378808142893056?s=46&t=JKhOzwYgKzS_MjCIQOjDLQUhhhhh
>>41543593Hakka go stream
>>41543469shork...
>>41543285Holy shit, it's like a third world country. Is come to Detroit the new come to brazil?
>>41543262Bit over half a million house price but it’s all people cashed up from FIFO mining or Chinese trying to get their money somewhere safer so doesn’t really matter.
>>41543479Be careful. They are going to call you a storyarc schizo soon
>>41543593I bet the smell was amazing.
>>41543689You lads killed McClown yet?
>>41543580Not even. What they prioritized, what they've ALWAYS prioritized, is the ability to play well with other talents.I can guarantee you there's dozens of people more high spec that the ones we got in council right now, but good luck finding ones that won't be kick up drama within a couple months.
>>41543593brother you are a Rednexican now, make sure to fly the American flag over your Mexico one now.
So it looks like fauna just gets fucked over whenever she's overlapping ina huh. She was holding 7k even overlapping the handcam
>>41543722Gun powder, bud lite, and old spice. What's not to love?
>>41543479>However, at this point the EN audience is largely solidified and it’s missing that core tenant that is actually idolfagging instead of the obsession with males that it has come to mean in Western parlanceI mean, call me crazy but there's no chance for the former to take place in Western sphere Like, ask any people, even weeb, what "Japanese idol" is about, and I can guarantee at least 8 out of 10 will list "No males interaction" and "Milking young girls" as one of their first idea (Yes, even LL/im@sfag) Couple that with how the entertainment industry works in EN, well, you can see how pushing "idols" in EN would only work so far (I.E. it takes a LITERAL PANDEMIC for it to work)
>>41543285Only if I can have turrets in my yard ancap style
>>41543802Vesper...
Hololive should debut a dancing gen, imagine 5 girls who can pull off a choreo like this.https://youtu.be/rW_SHXawSEw
>>41543688This is what most American cities look like. Especially the ones that relied heavily on manufacturing before it was outsourced overseas.
End and funnel to kronii you retarded owl
>>41543853I mean Ina is just more popular than the others frankly, 2nd most popular in EN traditionally, so yeah it makes sense that when they overlap Fauna would lose more viewers. Not only is Ame weaker overall, the crossover between Ina/Fauna and Ame/Fauna is likely must heavier in the Ina/Fauna direction, so more splitting going on.
>>41541177If you want money, work for it
>>41543802Why is the western hemisphere filled with dramafags anyway?
>>41543978How would they show of those skills?
>>41543780McGowan isn’t going out short of raping babies. Much like Victoria the opposition is too stupid to manage a campaign
>>41543978Being good at dancing (or liking it) is one of the least important aspects for a streamer or a normal idol
>>41543988I've never seen a city like that. I've been to a lot of them in the south and east US. Closest thing I saw to something like that is a neighborhood being demolished in dallas once.
>i'm having trouble drawing cursed things latelyit's over for schizomei supporters...the arc is never coming back
>>41535362Anon, when the likes of Pekora and Miko is on the LITERALLY TOP TEN global YT streaming numbers list, you can't just say it's "Japan market" anymore
>>41543978>debut a dancing gen>they can't show off their skills until their paywalled debut in holofes over a year laterIt's not going to work unless Hololive can fasttrack 3d to people in a few months
>>41544056Drama sellsUS culture encourages confrontation
>>41543978I agree but dont make it mixed gen. This performace was kino even if it wasnt perfect so i wouldnt mind seeing more stuff like this https://youtu.be/VsYtOSHzXHA?t=2624
>>41544113That's why you should never try to cure menheras...
JP has multiple interesting story, countless of them. When was the last time anything interesting happened on the EN side? Ame calling Gura a bitch? Kronii's subway sandwich therapy?
>>41544101They're lying. It isn't "most american cities". It is true that Detroit and places that have collapsed are that bad though. It doesn't help that there are many factors that led to what is dubbed 'white flight' in detroit, such that the only ones now living in that hellhole of a city are >Niggers>Gangbangers>Those too poor to move awayEspecially in areas that those images of houses for sale were taken.
>>41544176They'd naturally be a JP gen so they'd get their 3Ds and alt four alt 3D outfits within six months.
>>41543635It's over.
His dream was to rival Nijisanji's male vtubers and tempoop sure are destroying it
>>41544176Even if they debut in 3D, the studio is never free.
>>41544056Ask Twitch. That 'drama inclines you' mindset baked in western streamers is because of them.
How do we save Tempus?
>>41544207You don't need a "dancing gen" for that.
>>41544351We don't
>>41544150Given their numbers for chat and when they get those numbers, it's still a heavily Japanese market, with some SEA+others mixed in. I'm not saying that they aren't competitive globally, because they are, I'm saying that VTUBERS in JAPAN are at that level, and that outside of Japan, they are not due to the other factors mentioned. It isn't everything, but it's the broad bigger-picture perspective.
>>41536915Just check on Hololive's Twitter whenever they put a stream on their official FC site: https://hololive-fc.com/livesEssentially same tech
>>41544351Graduate and work normal jobs.
>>41544113Mumei doesn't like her schizo personality anyways
EN should be more like western pop stars instead of chasing idols
>>41544251ORKrys's onsen trip
>>41544056In the land of twitch the top of the lsf is king. It's still funny that in 2022 twitch rewind half of the recaps are the just the biggest drama in that year which is the gambling drama and xqc's crazy girlfriend drama.
>>41544431I mean, I get it. It's a thing she did because she wanted to be entertaining, but it's also tiring to keep it running, probably even more so now that she's likely taking her meds.
>>41544431More like she doesn't want it to be her only schtick
>>41544384no we just need a Nene caliber Gen
>wrestlesanji finals literally ongoing right now>aia in axel's chat insteadwhat the fuck is her problem?
>>41544251HoloEN MC has to have stuff happen outside the bunker at least.
>>41544351Build a time machine and go back and segregate them
>>41544351We let them die along with holoEN. Its only fitting to let them die with what they slowly killed.
>>41535570>To be specific, it's that as a %marketshare, vtubers are the top of the crop for streaming, being that they essentially came to dominate the primary streaming platform over there (Youtube).I feel like it's the same situation with the music industry over there, where the actual number of customer is not big, but they rotate heavily, have huge buying power and with more expensive purchases, thus inflating the valueSame with streaming, where there's fewer people in total who watch stream, but are very dedicated and concentrated into one time zone, thus inflating the numbers
When i think about it, towa might have good fps skills or suisei might have good vocal skills but aqua has both so why isn't she in the first take or win an apex tournament?
>>41544455Dull as shit with zero build up, payoff or legs like every "story" involving councilrys. And people wonder why the branch has withered with such lacklustre entertainers clogging it up.
>>41544431Without her schizo personality, what's left with Mumei?
>>41535151I now have access to media that will never get localized/translated
>>41543910The Kpop method still works on the western market and they have a similar fervor as the japanese idol scene, but much more corporate than the already corporate JP idols - which I argue is a good model to follow into further penetrating the western market because Hololive is ALREADY corporate so it's not like they have to adapt much.I am not sure whatever Mori is doing is working because her success seems to be localized in Japan, and not internationally. Unless she's just using that Japanese success to springboard her into the western market ala Utada Hikaru. Kiara is also cooking up things for the euromarket but euros are a tough customer, they even denied her petition to represent in Eurovision.
>>41544474>top of the lsf is kingBut thats wrong. Most of lsf didn't know who Kai was when he was already at the top. Lsf are mostly the poggers community and lacked knowledge on the W community. Also, twitch streamers are overall smalltime compared to big youtubers like Mr Beast, Markiplier, Sidemen, etc.
>>41544351we don't
>>41544600She's cute
>>415445113views together strong
>>41544511Have you seen the Niji males? Not surprising the girls run to greener pastures. Probably hoping to become an orbiter since it's too dangerous to get close to a Niji male too with the chinks and all.
>>41544511its sink or swim in Nijisanji. Her other branch mates that are not her gen mates already let her drown, why should she care.
>>41536915>According to what some people in this thread have said they have magic numbers at the level of something like B2.Lol they never got into the same kind of bullshit as B2.NND's counter is specifically used to count the number of unique IPs that click on a video, with the caveat that one unique IP can only contribute one view per day. And yes, we did actually test this.B2 though? Who knows how the fuck it works, especially with how some accounts can apparently give more views than the others.
>>41544351>Go back in time>Bitchslap Ame, Mori and Kronii, tell them that if they want to help these blokes, they shouldn't get too involved with them>Gutpunch the boys and tell them to man up and double-down on being strong solo streamers instead of trying to leech from the girls>Debut EN3 in October and Tempus 2 early this year, thereby preventing the absolute apathy that got directed at Tempus2 and the increase in anti-tempus sentiment>Fire all of the incompetent EN upper management while I'm writing my fanfanfiction
>>41544577>towa might have good fps skillsShe has good fps skills compared to normal people but put in her tourneys like CR Cup and Vtuber cup and she's not great. But her greatest contribution is that she's emotional and that leads to good scenes, specifically in CR Cup. Yumekyawa and Hamsters being teams that are big highlights. Aqua's good at APEX but she's probably not yet good at competitive APEX. Stomping pubs is different than stomping rank and that is different than competitive where everyone is on a mic and the teams usually have practice together.
>>41544251>sensing blood, storyline schizo returns
>>41544351Dwarf Fortress sponsorship streams.
>>41544577She lazyRemember the supposed “idol rep” arc that lead to the sub 100k 3D live?
>>41544613She was always going to have a hard time convincing the Austrian Eurovision bid anyway given like most of the other countries their selection process is basically controlled by kingmaker producers on record label payrolls.
>>41544719Base Mama, knowing exactly what she wants and to make sure it's in her outfit.
>>41541328>Having an oshi isn’t supposed to be about being a parasocial groomer
>>41534014Kson want to fulfill her dream about participating Ryu ga gotoku series.So shut the fuck up about Kson case
>>41543505all 5 of them?
>>41543910Plenty of people in the West get invested in the career of a budding talent, especially if they’re relatable. They don’t need to use the word idol, but the base concept is simply lacking in the EN scene. Fans don’t push their favorites to try new and difficult things, especially in the music field which is the most common method of idolfagging, but even for an entertainer focused idol like Pekora, they helped her to break out of her loner autism shell. I mostly talk about music because it’s the most obvious and universal thing a chuuba can do, but the expectation that the chuuba is supposed to improve themselves and pay back the fan’s support with better performances in the future simply isn’t present in any large quantity in the West, and there isn’t the support networks for it to self sustain either, despite it nominally being easily monetized by having the girls who have the most money thrown at the organizers getting the stage slots, which is how Reality and Vtuber FES work for the non-direct invites.
>>41544694NND isn't really a bad method of counting it seems. YT and B2 are trash for numbers.
>>41544586Do you seriously think that Ame calling Gura a bitch in Rust has more "build up, payoff or legs" than that?
>>41544779Genuinely surprised Vesper didnt play that right when it came out on Steam. Ik there's probably perms issues and stuff but that would have been a great game while he still had early Vesper buff. Mf didnt even play Rimworld.
>>41544613KPOP works on most of the world and more pervasively than JPOP. Anime songs are more popular than non-Anime JPOP songs when outside Japan. AKB's popular outside of JP but no where close to KPOP groups that aren't even the #1s.
>>41544771That is the point isn't it? Why are you letting blood in the water in the first place?
>>41544705Also fire Fauna who's dogshit
>>41544558>>41544705This wouldn't have fixed Vesper's attitude though
>>41544577She is a good solo player but not a good team player Truly she is BocchiHer singing is bad but not great. She is more like an idol singer rather than a normal singer
>>41544932kys
>>41544893Vesper literally said he wants to put in at least 1k hours in the game before he even considers streaming it
>>41544705based problem solver
>>41544995Alright maybe he is retarded enough to need pills to function nvm.
>reading a thread talking about dying cities in the US>get YT recommend me this
>>41544995Why is he such a retard...
done with bocchi the rockthe resemblance in aqua and the MC is similar
>>41544932>EN#2 (since Gura is MIA, will be #3 if Gura returns) right now>DogshitDamn, you sure make it sounds grim, faunaschizo
>>41544980Bocchi was a good team player tho
Is Nowa a diva?
>>41545067You on chrome?
>>41544577Aqua is not a good singer. She's "an idol" only in the sense that she's a mediocre singed and dancer and isn't at all interested in doing the idol grind but "she's cute" and "dumb" apparently idiots root for her despite her massive shortcomings as a person and entertainer.
since thread is dying, what happened to isekai ojisan?
>>41544251Mori's career is a Hero's Journey.
>>41542682>There is no infrastructure for cooperation between various vtubers because for the firs two years the retarded EN management decided to close off Myth and then Council from ever interacting from the outside with only Mori and Kiara fighting against it.I anon, I was kind of agree with you until this partReminder that this is the same EN Management who's just come of of THE drama of the Vtuber scene with their branch somehow still intact and not fucking nuked to oblivion like their other branchWith that in mind, do you think they will risk another one in a market who's just as happy with canceling, and filled with literally the same kind of people, but with different flag?Reminder that only after StarEN was done being the guinea pig by collabing with Twitch/Niji that the girls are allowed to do the same
>>41544796That is correct you troglodyte, and waifu is not the plural of anime girl either.
>>41545148Delays fucking killed the hype.
>>41545130She wasn't at the beginningEven currently her skill with Kessoku isn't as good as when she is streaming as Guitarhero
>>41545137Thats the typical JP idol.
>>41544600I mean there's like 5-6k people that will watch her every stream just mumbling to chat so she's doing something right
>>41545148... they were on the last EP for japanese watchers and then they got covid again. There has been nothing for EN watchers if they will resume other than "Favorite Ojisan Returning" on the description.
>>41545218There is that manga about an unpopular idol and her ONLY fan. I figure unicorn would probably love that
>>41545129It's funny, he's on my trending right now but Tempus isn't. Maybe he had an I AM TEMPUS moment.
>>41545132nta but I use firefox and got recommended that video too
>>41545129anxiety hort
>>41545218Incorrect. Any JP idol that was a lazy fat retard who actively got worse after "committing" to "doing her best" like the stupid reiwa zoomer she is would be hard pressed to keep a fanbase with half an appearance a month unless she was whoring herself out to fans and producers.
>>41545148I need a CUTE Elf tier tsun in EN3 ...... pls ill forgive all the tempiss shit Yagoo.
So when the fuck is Pekora and Nenechi's beetles tournament gonna happen? It's Literally the only thing I give a shit about.
>>41545290Urumin my oshi
>>41543635MY NUMBER QUEEN
>>41545315>they try to coco him>they failed
>>41545184They didn’t let them interact with vetted JP people like Boogey Voxx who’d done songs with AZKi before. Management was stupidly over protective even if you want to argue about the ENtubers being not worth the risk
>>41545374After Noel ASMR she owes us for losting that DQ casino thing...
>>41545374The idea got rejected iirc
>>41545165Something something you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become a villain?
>>41545165She's been digesting a single sandwich this whole time.
>>41544403Fair enoughBut again, that's what you get for having a large percentage of you fan in one place
>>41545165doesn't work. Her personality keeps on regressing back to 0 or worse. It's like she was written for a comedy sitcom
>>41545498She hasn't reached her spiral nemesis stage yet.
>>41545484Wait really? Fuck. Who broke the news? I know Pekora was the one who first mentioned the idea.
Season 2 Mori my beloved... pls come back and drop another End of a Life tier song pls.
>>41539366I hope your oshi isn't one of those.
Please let the thread die faster>your main thread (if your main is # you can list the thread you posted second most)>your favorite schizo in #
>>41545545>An archtypical hero does not have trials and moments of weakness to reflect on
>>41545610
>>41539366What's with the rise of Iroha?
>>41544616Kai has literally only been on the seen for roughly a year and he's already having a massive scandal that could end his career.The "poggers" community are still the vast majority of the top streamers on twitch. Sure there might be a couple that seep through the cracks but those are the exceptions.
>>41545668She's the last samurai
my cute wife thanked my sc
>>41545610I guess DesP moved on from FBK or just got lazy? He used to be my go to during big collabs and it was sad to not have him for SportsFes and MarioKart
>>41545660She destroyed her own chat and comment section.
>>41544613Okay, I don't follow K-pop that closely anymore but is it still dominated by boybands like back in 2010s?
>mumei shilling holograshe really watches hololive huh
>>41545627>main thread#'s is the place JP gets talked about the most.... 2nd is /ggg/ or random threads>your favorite #'s Schizomyself
>>41545610Why? Because they don't have to deal with EOPs in their fanbases? Is that supposed to be bad?
>180 ipslol wut
>>41545607UMG's gonna have her selling gutter trash music till the end sadly. End of a Life will probably be her last really good song.
>>41539366(You) WILL /BECOME/
Why Kpop has international appeal while Jpop doesn't? What does Kpop has that Jpop doesn't?
>>41539366I know that Pekora's translators just straight up fucking skip half her shit because she talks fast but this is embarrassing for you guys.
>>41545697Yeah, she could have fixed it all with a simply apology but she decided to be a retard. Only has herself to blame.
>>41545758this thread became /mans2/ for a while... again
>>41545686Also cute
>>41545741This isn't new. She watches literally everyone from JP all the way to ID and everything in between
>>41545686grats bro... i miss my Goobs. No matter how big her chat was she always seemed to read one of my none SC comments.
>>41545686congrats anon
>>41545610Anya translates for herself.
>>41544613Kpop got popular because it teenage mutt girls got into it for the boys. Obviously that isn't going to work with japanese idolsThe american music industry stopped promoting boy bands in the 2000s, Kpop filled the niche that they were leaving on the table. That's all it was, NSYNC and backstreet boys for a new generation that don't have American boy bands
>>41545697That will never stop me from loving Fubuking.
>>41545758>we currently have more IPs than /higg/, /NijiEN/, or /MANS/THE MOST INFLUENTIAL THREAD
>>41545771bots
>>41545817>The american music industry stopped promoting boy bands in the 2000sWhy?
>>41544705I would add debuting Council about four months earlier. A year was too long but aside from that I agree
>>41545771Government agencies pushing it. Jpop does fine once you get people exposed, but Korea intentionally exports Kpop while Japan is insular.
>>41545771jpop is boring and hasn't evolved in decades while kpop sounds like american pop, the dominant music trend worldwide
>>41545696Iirc that guy always went menhera and even the other translators in their social circle got sick and tired of him.
>>41545196Yeah, I get that anon, but imagine saying that in this board I mean, even /ggg/ is guilty of this, and I consider them one of the smarter general
>>41545610Sankisei...
>>41545901Less fighting with singular talents like the Beaver Beiber
>>41540681ID management is really competent same with starsJP. Both M-chan and Shinove carried their branch spledidly.
>>41545771Kpop have choreoJpop don't
>>41545610LYGER WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU? WHY ARE YOU LEAVING MATSURI HANGING