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what does rock bottom look like for a vtuber

>> No.41497307

>>41497228
Pretty sure it's digging under the rock bottom.

>> No.41497310

7 years at 0viewers.

>> No.41497347

>>41497310
Who is it anon, i could save her.

>> No.41497350

>>41497228
It's reimu. She's the definition of rock bottom along with iluna in nijien. Tell me something new anon.

>> No.41497388

>>41497228
Aia Amare had like 200-300 viewers last night before she got raided and boosted up to 900.
Finana's 3D afterparty had 800 viewers.
This is a big corpo EN branch btw.

>> No.41497496

>>41497228
Multiple years as a 1view or 0view indie, probably

>> No.41497581

>>41497388
I mean they could be doing worse when there's literal 2views in their adopted branches in JP. pretty much on par with average starsjp numbers for flops like finana, reimu, nina and Iluna. well, at least they still let them do a concert.

>> No.41497628

>>41497388
Sad. Bugmen don't even want to watch their pawns

>> No.41497629

>>41497581
>2view JPs
Seriously? Holy fuck lol.

>> No.41497695

>>41497629
Reading comprehension my dear SEAfriend

>> No.41497731

>>41497629
They probably mean niji ex kr and id who's been adopted to the main branch. they're stuck in 2view and 3view hell except for that one kr dude that collabs with niji and that horny ghost girl from id.

>> No.41497734

>>41497228
I would have done the same with a dead career

>> No.41497910

>>41497388
Kinda curious how well Kotoka and Meloco average out with their ability to easily play with JP members.

>> No.41497944

>>41497228
Getting sponsored is rock bottom?

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>>41497228
>rock bottom
>600 viewers
>more than thousands of GFE streamers that you cucks jerk off to
cope

>> No.41498039

>>41497695
Not my fault that post was badly worded you greasy hairy faggot.
Leave this board, Diego, your swarthoid inbred ass doesn't have the mental acumen necessary to partake in English language discussion of this level.

>> No.41498055

>>41497388
>Finana's 3D afterparty had 800 viewers.
lmao

>> No.41498095

>>41497228
Unironically that must be a lotta money
Raid pay big bucks for youtubers to do just a 1~2min shill on a video

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>>41498039

>> No.41498194

Reimu had to do something to be able to afford going to Japan.

>> No.41498227

>>41497910
They're doing better than Aia and Scarle I could tell you that much. They seem to have a large jp fanbase compared to other en livers (except luxiem) which gives them a buff already, managing to pull a 1.5k+ stream out of their asses after starting slow with no raids. Kotoka's low numbers are mostly talking streams and superchat readings, while Meloco has her recent ARK stream being one of her lowest (around 800+), but she somehow gets the most incline in the wave subs-wise and is doing okay overall. Those Iluna flops have no hope.

>> No.41498273

>>41498178
This isn't /soc/, don't post pictures of yourself.

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>>41498039
Holy mother of SEArage

>> No.41498309

>>41498278
A $20 Google Play gift code has been awarded. Check your Discord messages.

>> No.41498346

>>41498227
i think meloco managed to get 1k in her ark stream or was I trippin. anyways people could just check, and yea even that esl girl's lowest ccv is the highest for aia. kek.

>> No.41498403

>>41497228
wth she's enjoying raid
sasuga gacha addict

>> No.41498440

>>41497228
Raid, isnt it like 200 bucks for a shill

>> No.41498450

>>41498227
Scarle isn't doing well? That sucks, she's the best one from her gen

>> No.41498584

>>41498450
She's a slob and fake Latina.

>> No.41498628

>>41498440
Five years ago, it was 4 grands for a sponsored stream. A youtuber actually bought a new car with a couple of these Raid sponsorships.

>> No.41498672

>>41498450
I mean I think Scarle would barely care about ccv numbers by now since she racks up a lot of sc money from her streams. So she's doing well on her own. Aia has the smallest audience in en, but she has a dedicated fanbase at least as some anon mentioned that most people who watch her are her members. So those 100-200 fans are loyal as fuck.

>> No.41498708

>>41498450
She isn't doing well on numbers but shes making so much money I doubt she cares.

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41498877

>>41498039
Which one of these is you?

>> No.41498944

>>41498095
Not as much as you would think. She probably earned around 700 at the most based on the number of viewers Raid sponsorships nowadays only pay based on how many people download and complete the tutorial and the max amount they pay out usually for small Vtubers is 700 dollars, that’s if you were sponsored through a middle man and not raid themselves which is rare for them to do nowadays.

>> No.41499071

>>41498877
None, you brownoid shit-hut dweller.

>> No.41499169

>>41498101
holofans... how can we compete... we lost...

>> No.41499244

just wait till you see Aia and Aster regularly at 300

>> No.41499300

>>41497228
Raid: Shadow Legends is actually pretty cool game!

>> No.41499348

>>41497388
people post this numbers as if niji proper doesn't have a dozen of borderline 2views

>> No.41499358

>>41499071
Hit a little too close to home did I?

>> No.41499399

>>41499300
I think you dropped this ™ buddy

>> No.41499443

>>41499300
sirs

>> No.41499448

>>41497944
RAID asks 2 views and Youtubers with sub 1000 subscribers to play their games and do ads.

>> No.41499748

>>41499358
>no U are sea!!
And that's the extent of your abilities, Nguyen.

>> No.41500534

>>41497388
I thought the fish girl was one of the popular nijis

>> No.41500710

>>41500534
The popular girls are Selen, Elira, Enna and Pomu. Finana is like at the top of the bottom tier of popularity I would say.

>> No.41500714

>>41500534
Flavor of the month I guess? It really seems like their audience is trained to pump and dump.

>> No.41500741

>>41497347
Him*

>> No.41500851

>>41497388
Nijisanji does the thing where they just release a shitload of chuubas so that people can find at least one they're interested in.
The downsides of course are the overlaps, and also the fact that this inevitably means they're gonna trim the fat and graduate their less successful chuubas.

>> No.41500961

would be hilarious if she got 3d before holoEN

>> No.41500974

>>41500534
These are the median viewership numbers this month.
Enna - 3,783
Selen - 3,712
Elira - 3,652
Pomu - 3,478
Meloco - 2,476
Millie - 2,272
Rosemi - 2,227
Kotoka - 1,734
Zaion - 1,665
Nina - 1,650
Scarle - 1,406
Petra - 1,302
Reimu - 1,294
Finana - 1,108
Maria - 1,007
Aia - 907
Finana is not one of the popular nijis.

>> No.41501009

>>41500741
Sry anon, i need to save myself first

>> No.41501056

>>41500534
Pretty sure she killed that months ago when all she did was gacha and the dumb tweet

>> No.41501098

>>41497228
I think straight up prostitution is less shameful and only equally as sinful considering who owns that "game"

>> No.41501160

>>41500851
>also the fact that this inevitably means they're gonna trim the fat and graduate their less successful chuubas
fucking hajiki has been in niji since gen 1 and is still a borderline 2view, nobody gets graduated because muh noombers

>> No.41501189

>>41500974
>Enna at the top
Well that's surprising. What boosted her?

>> No.41501196

>>41498039
At least they have a drop or two of European in them you seagroid

>> No.41501242

>>41501189
being funny
not taking shit from retards
singing
con appearances

>> No.41501451

>>41501189
Enna has been at the top more or less consistently since mid last year. She gets a slice of the Luxiem audience too. Being the way she is appeals to female viewers. she streams normally at good times for asian audiences just after the guys normally finish.

>> No.41501470

>>41497228
I mean, she easily has one of the worst designs in the company. It is a no brainer that she is doing badly.

>> No.41501543

>>41501189
appealing to chinese audience, she's been doing it a lot lately.

>> No.41501603

>>41501189
she's a bitchy chinese femcel so she's very relatable to nijien's core demographic

>> No.41501702

>>41497228
Numbertranny thread
Numbertroon posters

>> No.41501704

>>41500534
is it a he? no? then the zhangs are not interested

>> No.41501726

>>41501603
this + she's a good singer

>> No.41501775

How does Raid have all this money to buy streamers when I've never heard of anyone playing it without getting paid for it? At least with Genshin there seems to be an actual (SEA) playerbase to draw whales from, shouldn't they be the ones spamming sponsored streams?

>> No.41501791

>>41501189
monopoly on the cuckhold market

>> No.41501846

>>41497228
Meh I can't disrespect it I would shill the shit out of raid if I was getting paid to just stream. Easiest job in the world and people pretend to have standards when majority is 1-2 view.

>> No.41501915

>>41501775
it's like assasins creed or fifa where every adult shits on it, but the silent majority of children keep paying for it

>> No.41502131

>>41501704
It's more like if you aren't Luxiem then they aren't interested. Here is a list with males and females combined. Everyone that isn't Luxiem gets less viewership than the 3k-4k girls.
Mysta - 8,118
Luca - 6,333
Ike - 6,040
Vox - 6,033
Shu - 5,292
Enna - 3,783
Selen - 3,712
Elira - 3,652
Pomu - 3,478
Alban - 2,966
Fulgur - 2,878
Uki - 2,768
Hex - 2,533
Meloco - 2,476
Millie - 2,272
Sonny - 2,271
Rosemi - 2,227
Kyp - 2,128
Ver - 1,742
Kotoka - 1,734
Zaion - 1,665
Nina - 1,650
Doppio - 1,641
Ren - 1,535
Scarle - 1,406
Petra - 1,302
Reimu - 1,294
Finana - 1,108
Maria - 1,007
Aia - 907
Aster - 751

>> No.41502293

>>41501196
>u are sea becuse i say so xd
Grow up.

>> No.41502576

>>41499300
Looking for a sponsor for your posts?

>> No.41502616

>>41497388
damn, at least holoEN can get good views IF they tried

>> No.41502797

>>41497228
When you start pushing bait for people that you're jealous of

>> No.41502826

>>41500961
she did. its funny how anons ignore her getting 3D for AR live

>> No.41502854

>>41500961
about that >>41474396

>> No.41502856

>>41502293
>Anon got so btfo he's been seething at 4 different anons endlessly
KWAB

>> No.41502868

>>41500534
She lost that when she went full SJW

>> No.41503756

>>41497388
Finana flushed all her fans down a fucking toilet, she deserves to be a 3view >>41497388

>> No.41503885

>>41500534
Not after she starting playing with certain fans in a private discord and then more drama ensued. She deserves every bit of Ill will since it was all self inflicted.

>> No.41504029

>>41497228
I thought she was at the 300's a year ago

>> No.41504062

>>41500974
The Anya-Petra line...

>> No.41504188

>>41500974
The fuck happened to Maria, she was touted as the gura killer on debut

>> No.41504212

>>41504188
Boring

>> No.41504226

>>41504188
I heard Rosemi-lite more

>> No.41504271

>Suddenly a lot of nijianti threads
Good to know the EN AR concert bothered you fags this much

>> No.41504540

>>41502131
Fuck I'd be heartbroken if I was a corpo tuber and I was less popular than Petra. I genuinely don't get how people can watch her and I'm someone who enjoys the occasional Anya stream.

>> No.41504885

>>41501189
I'll also say this about Enna. She really knows how to express herself through the live2D and the dissonance between her general bitchiness and her avatar cuteness leads to an entire class of comedy.

>> No.41505540

>>41502131
>Elira and Pomu’s position
>Finana’s position
I don’t think there’s a single wave besides Lazulight where the disparity between viewers is this large, talk about imposter syndrome.

>> No.41505879

The only time I ever heard something close to numbers was a streamer saying it paid for a root canal they needed.

>> No.41506312

>>41502131
>Kyp
Anon you cheeky bastard, you thought nobody would realize if you included a made up name in there?

>> No.41506437

>>41497228
Doesn't change the fact that no matter how i try, i will never get more than 5 viewers.
The top 1% of streamers on Twitch is 10+ CCVs

>> No.41507082

>>41506437
play some game, then do a long event about it and buy bots. that's what bahroo did and he caught enough real people that stick around.

>> No.41507360

>>41501189
>make racist comments
>call your fans cuckolds on multiple occasions
>incline
And people wonder why the vTubing community is considered a joke

>> No.41507567

>>41502131
really? I just switched from Holo to Niji a couple months ago and the only one I follow actively is Enna, the others I follow just occasionally (no males). And I thought I was the alternative one. She seemed more like an underdog for me, but maybe times are changing

>> No.41507770

>>41504188
Tried to be discount store EN Salome without understanding her best points AND the fact that she was a one-off hit that can't be replicated

>> No.41507951

>>41497388
niji is all about the 4 homosexual men

>> No.41508141

>>41504188
>she was touted as the gura killer on debut
Pretty much a badge of guaranteed failure

>> No.41508189

>>41508141
Anyone who streams is already a gura killer anyway.

>> No.41508438

>>41500961
>>41502826
>>41502854
Surprised to see this many people have been in a coma since March 2022 and didn't notice HoloEN 3D being in a concert, a bunch of lives, and a sololive

>> No.41508487

>>41501189
All the chinks flocked to her when they disavowed Luxiem

>> No.41508690

>>41501189
People have finally realized how funny she is. Now only if they could have seen Lucius or Cage kino.

>> No.41508729

>>41502131
Aster's that bad, huh?

>> No.41508807

>>41504188
Streams at a bad time for NA and EU I believe. Not only that she was doing a lot of Apex/Valo and farming games. All I can say about her is that she's cute, but nothing beyond that.

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>>41507082
>play some game
Very descriptive. You can't play anything popular because you just get buried by the amount of streamers there are. You can't play something unpopular because people assume it never gets streamed so they don't bother looking for it. Hell, I mostly watch retro streamers and the goliaths of that category get 800~1.1k viewers so certain sections already have low interest already. I'll tell you right now, no one wants to watch some rando play Getting Over It or Jump King. They want someone they know play it and suffer.

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>>41504540
Petra is easily one of the better EN vtubers. She has great back and forth sass between her and her chat. She doesn't have the ultra creative streams or is a gamer, but she's good with audience banter. She's also incredibly cute.

>> No.41509257

>>41509101
"Just get lucky bro!"

>> No.41509339

>>41507567
She was an underdog in 2021. Ethyria in general was languishing pre-Luxiem since four people within two and a half months was a bit too soon. On the other hand Ethyria had time to settle in before the next Niji EN females were introduced.

>> No.41509367

>>41501189
Being an NTR whore.

She did a 1 on 1 offcollab with a male in her bedroom, flipped off her fans and laughed about them being cucks. She's an absolutely terrible human being who's constantly shitting on everyone and mocking everyone. Her fans are mostly chinese women, and unironic cucks who bow down to her and shit.

This is what happens when china gets to decide which vtubers are popular. It makes me sick what NijiEN has become.

>> No.41509549

>>41498628
How long ago was this? I ask because a (non-Vtuber) streamer I watch did a sponsorship with them like a year and a half ago, and they took months to pay him, and it wasn't even that much. He isn't even a 2view, he regularly brings in a couple thousand viewers.

>> No.41509601

>>41509549
>five years ago
Never mind I'm retarded.

>> No.41509731

>>41501189
Femcel luxiemfags relate to her. She wasn't that popular until she started collabing with the men.

>> No.41509749

>>41497228
Numberfaggot, most vtubers are 0-3 viewers.

>> No.41510035

>>41504188
Boyfriend. Off-Collabing with males. A lot of dead air during her streams.

>> No.41510070

>>41509101
Starting as a variety streamer is like playing hardmode. That makes you even harder to find. Bahroo was full on Xcom with almost no viewers and a channel growth from 1-2 +/- depending on the day until he turned on the bots and did a marathon. It's an open secret that streamers bot on twitch and the site doesn't do anything against it since some streamers getting viewbots from antis.

>> No.41510343

>>41509339
I can understand why, she is actually funny when she wants to and has actual talent (singing) aside from just streaming. She doesn't indulge in parasocial bs with her fans and with this she comes out more as a real person instead of a played character. She talks a lot about her real life and stands out as more relatable. I also think that a lot of her numbers are bloated because of the chinese audience and that scares me to an extent

>> No.41510606

>she is actually funny
lol, no she's not
>has actual talent (singing)
Yeah too bad she's a complete normie that knows nothing about anime, videogames, or anything.
>She doesn't indulge in parasocial bs
She absolutely does. She talks about wanting a boyfriend and a husband like every stream. Half her superchatters are asking her to marry them. She used to talk about being a virgin too, but mysteriously stopped sometime last month.
>She talks a lot about her real life
That IS parasocial
>a lot of her numbers are bloated because of the chinese audience
yeah no shit

>> No.41510672

Reimu facesitting stream when?

>> No.41510779

>>41510070
anon, twitch literally destroyed 99% of botting sites in the last 2 years and made bot detection in such a way that its near impossible to properly bot now, this is why botting increased on youtube.

>> No.41513387

>>41510606
The funniest shit is that you can apply this post to every member of Ethyria and it still fits

>> No.41513480

>>41500534
She was until people got educated

>> No.41513843

>>41513480
No. When it was just six of them Elira, Pomu, and Selen were all more popular than her.

>> No.41513857

>>41502131
Why is Mysta so high? I thought Vox was the most popular one.

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>>41497228
She's basically on a performance improvement plan.

>> No.41514077

>>41510606
>Yeah too bad she's a complete normie that knows nothing about anime, videogames, or anything.
Still doesn't negate her talent lol

>> No.41514121

>>41513857
Vox had a mental breakdown for a while and lots of his fans left. He said that he felt too much pressure being #1, instead of spamming coomer ASMR all the time he wanted to play games and stuff he actually enjoyed. Mysta has very strong viewership, but his donations are low

Enna is the NTR whore girl who hates her viewers that unfortunately became popular because of the chinese audience.
Pomu, Selen, and Elira are actually good vtubers who you could enjoy. That's because the first two waves were directly intended to appeal to the hololive audience, so the girls in those waves are excellent. Something you could enjoy watching without being a chinese fujo.

>> No.41514931

>>41514121
Well the problem is no one wants streamers

>> No.41515401

>>41514121
>unfortunately became popular because of the chinese audience.
Proof for this? Did she show her analytics or something? I thought that she just attracted the YASSSS QWEEEEEN SLAY! crowd.

>> No.41515679

>>41515401
she streams in asian hours, right after the males finish (and catches lots of raids from them too). People like Pomu and Selen stream almost 12 hours later, in North American primtime.
Also most of her fanart and stuff is made by asian people.

>> No.41518592

>>41514121
>he first two waves were directly intended to appeal to the hololive audience, so the girls in those waves are excellent
Then the males came and with them the suprise collabs and callins.

>> No.41526151

>>41510606
>Nuh uh is considered an argument now

>> No.41526389

>>41497228
Rock bottom is being a 0-1 view. Being able to maintain at least 100 viewers throughout an entire stream puts you above 90% of streamers.

>> No.41527330

>>41501189
The Kyo off-collab arc and "racist" yab brought a lot of eyes on her, and women stayed because women love other women that are sassy, blunt, and cunty. Enna has really strong "yass queen slay" and gen z depressive energy simultaneously. She's also chinese and so are a lot of Nijiniggers. Oh and her nasally voice stands out which is important for a vtuber. She's just the perfect recipe for a popular Niji girl. Almost seems lab-grown.

>> No.41527581

>>41526151
enna's "humor" is usually painfully struggling with simple gameplay mechanics and laughing at how bad she fucks things up. She also uses a lot of zoomer slang like "lowkey" which is really fucking annoying. Often her dialogue is just a series of random zoomer slang phrases one after another.

Remember she's not a gamer, she never touched a game in her life before Nijisanji. She's a total normalfag who likes watching Korean dating shows, The Kardashians, the Bachelorette and stuff like that. Watching her attempt to play a game is excruciatingly painful.

>> No.41528059

>>41500534
Finana is a good talent, but a mid tier in action because of her yabs and because her genmates are S+ and Obsydia talents are S+, A, and B respectively (you know who I'm talking about). When choosing to watch Finana, you have to ask yourself, why not watch a different Lazusydia VOD? Finana is great (and I'm not just saying that), but the others tend to disntinguish themselves more into their niches.
>>41497388
The 3D afterparty was pretty comfy though. Sucks that it kinds went on at the same time as Elira and Pomu

>> No.41528391

Omg, this bitch's avatar is so fucking ugly. God damn lol

>> No.41528427

>>41526151
show one instance of her being funny

>> No.41528780

>>41497228
Raid: Shadow Legends... so they're unironically playing meme advertisement games now

>> No.41528906

>>41528780
Huh, I didn't even realize that looking on the catalogue. No wonder it's got such shit views, just about anyone who'd be watching vtubers probably already have heard Raid shilled to death so it makes people REALLY not want to watch.

>> No.41529022

>>41513843
Well Elira, Pomu and Selen are all better talents than her. Doesn't mean she doesn't mog 95% of all vtubers ever

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>>41497310
>>41497347
>>41500741
>>41501009

This exchange hits hard.

>> No.41529373

This bitch is so ugly. How could you like an avatar this hideous? That hair is gross

>> No.41529641

>>41505540
It's almost like they didn't say some dumb zoomie shit they read on twitter to an audience of mostly old anime fans.

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