/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>41316404
>>41314476
And the Nijiniggers reveal themselves

it's gonna be a bloodbath

>>41316615
SEA slot is basically same as the JP slot, you mouth breathing pig

>>41316499
NTR legend>>>>Time loop NTR
Based f95 user

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *
>61,597: Ishigami Nozomi (Nijisanji)
>59,935: Sophia Valentine (Nijisanji)
>58,661: Koshimizu Toru (Nijisanji)
>49,725: Igarashi Rika (Nijisanji)
>36,796: Pekora (Hololive)
>34,994: Miko (Hololive)
>32,901: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>20,845: Subaru (Hololive)
>20,064: Chihiro (Nijisanji)
>19,856: Subaru (Hololive)
>16,811: Koyori (Hololive)
>15,790: Fubuki (Hololive)
>15,750: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>15,057: Towa (Hololive)
>14,436: Botan (Hololive)
>13,433: Kanata (Hololive)
>12,390: Hal (Neo Porte)
>12,347: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>12,204: Mumei (Hololive)
>11,879: Hayato (Nijisanji)
>11,873: Furen (Nijisanji)
>11,750: Koyori (Hololive)
>11,244: Chloe (Hololive)

>>441316602
>/#/ living rent free in aloucucks minds
RUMAO. Sisters are so pathetic.

>>41316746
>JANUARY 2023 GOLDS
1) Hololive (Hololive) - 142,855 - Human Rabbitality Project
2) Pekora (Hololive) - 178,006 - Pokemon Metronome tournament
3) Towa (Hololive) - 101,269 - 3rd anniversary 3D live
4) Pekora (Hololive) - 139,262 - Gamers x Sankisei collab
5) Watame (Hololive) - 39,137 - Bakatare Circus ludo
6) Nerumero (Indie) - 39,961 - Genshin update mirror stream
7) Towa (Hololive) - 112,852 - Holo New Year MK Cup 2023
8) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 122,719 - Niji Mahjong Cup 2023
9) Pekora (Hololive) - 55,370 - GeoGuessr
10) Subaru (Hololive) - 54,841 - TsuneMOS Tycoon
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 43,113 - Birthday countdown
12) Pekora (Hololive) - 142,282 - 3D birthday live
13) Pekora (Hololive) - 33,367 - Minecraft RTA
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 78,227* - Holomen gift opening
15) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,445 - Pekkorone Ao Oni
16) Pekora (Hololive) - 38,305 - Daimakaimura endurance
17) Koyori (Hololive) - 65,592 - Momotetsu w/Pekora, Subaru & Botan
18) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 42,343 - Apex CR cup scrims
19) Nozomi (Nijisanji) - 61,597 - Debut stream

>PER COMPANY
15x: Hololive
3x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie

>PER STREAMER
9x: Pekora
2x: Towa
1x: Hololive, Koyori, Kuzuha, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Nozomi, Subaru, Watame

>>41316746
Pekora failed us again, I bet Gura will be returning soon to fix her failures.

>>41316763
What's that post? It's not on warosu.

>>41316763
I'm pretty sure it's just one /NijiEN/ poster who always deflects to /#/. Imagine thinking anyone here cares enough about Enna to hatewatch her streams rather than one of their resident LOEfags.

>>41316746
>Nijisanji
>Nijisanji
>Nijisanji
What the fuck did I kiss?

>>41316796
>>41316687
Nice try.

>>41316864
that post hasnt been made yet

>>41316864
Come back in 10 years.

>>41316746
So were any of the new Nijis any good? Also how did the non-VTA ones even apply?

>>41316707
>bloodbath
All I see is easy Koyori win

>>41316796
Would be preety grim if niji debuts lost to normal pekora stremes, pekora is just going easy on the newbies if they don't get gold on debut they might just mindbreak

>>41316615
>HoloEN should be hiring Chinese English speakers
I knew it

>>41316933
just sophia and the koyo2.0

>>41316895
He has been spamming the same regurgitated Gura bait all day, kinda pathetic ng.l

>>41316889
New debuts

>>41311281
In my opinion, i'm glad that there's no EN3. Taking in consideration the direction HoloEN is going, there's no way in hell that EN3 isn't gonna be male collabers FPS spammers, Kroniis or Moris.
We're gonna be raided everyday by hordes and hordes of twitter trannies with "own the incels" and "yesmen" making this thread(maybe the entire board) become unusable for a month, which will be the approximate date that they will all die in irrelevance and become 1~3k shitters, who will be easily mogged by Fauna, Mumei, IRyS and Ina on a regular basis.
They will blame EN management followed by going full menhera for their own failure, also one or more will get impregnated by some Niji or Tempiss groomer.
Screencap this.

>>41316796
Any Pekora Gacha stream would have beaten these NijiJP newbies, retardtachi.
Picrel for a grim remainder.

>>41317007
This is such a retarded mindset

Suisei First Take will be a premiere right??
I am so nervous for her, please do good Sui chaaaan.....

>>41317041
Pekora gacha has reclined a lot, anon. A lot of nousagi got tired of fate spam and became 35p

>>41317080
It's 100% prerecorded.

>>41317080
She will do good it's suichan after all

>>41316746
>>41316792
bros... I REALLY like her design

>>41317088
Proof? I could show you the exact contrary happening though.

>>41316707
Intense overlap hell...

>>41317104
That's how first take does things

>>41316615
Those are Japanese hours. They all start streaming at 19:00 at earliest, and often keep going to like 03:00. It's during regular japanese work hours there are literally zero streams. I get that a lot of people can't watch during work hours but surely there would be some viewers at like 16:00. Like better than at 03:00.

>>41317088
>He said as she still got her usual 60k gacha number overlapped by Miko and Suisei 2 60k streams
But sure

>>41317007
The industry is too mature already. There are no hidden EN gems waiting to be polished by a big corpo to get the next breakthrough hit in the west

>no streams
>check small corps
>phase #2 400 viewers
>jew walmart gura 400 viewers
>kuckwaii corp horse 400 viewers
400 viewer wall

How's IdolEN doing? Has the Gura clone inclined with Gura MIA?

>>41316933
Blue one is shit with zero energy. The other 3 are decent, but 1 is Valorant addict and one didn't even bother with schedule. The one designed by Koyori mama is Koyori wannabe.

>>41316933
The gold girl was the best of the bunch, followed by the silver girl.

>>41317007
Stop posting on /pol/, this entire post is pathetic. Stop letting twitter retards live in your mind rent free. They have no influence on anything.

>>41317197
Can't they find another artist like Mori?

>>41317197
>There are no hidden EN gems
There's no way there aren't at least some quality applicants that don't have a huge vtuber/streamer background.

>>41317197
>There are no hidden EN gems
if there was one in ID then there can be in EN

>>41317197
Yeah there's basically no talented people left on the planet, between HoloEN itself, the NijiEN gens, the few girls in vshojo, and the handful of tiny corpos. Those 100 or so people are all there were...

>>41316933
It's contrived to explain but basically whoever is in charge of scouting VTA students is also in charge of scouting experienced streamers to debut immediately. Everyone in Nijisanji goes through VTA one way or another now.

VTA announce auditions for inexperienced aspiring creators, and then they announce 'Gen x.5 auditions' for experienced streamers which is essentially a timed audition.

So there is a 'VTA' and there is also a secret occult research club of VTA students that aren't seen until they debut in Nijisanji just kinda hanging out in the background.

>>41317349
I dunno if that would work. Best case scenario you get a Mori sidekick, worst case scenario you are letting her competing against an industry giant for the same niche

Is this First Take gig the biggest exposure any vtuber has gotten from mainstream media??
Cant think of anything bigger!

>>41317197
I mean if there were Cover would have found them, so obvlously there isn't any

>>41317506
so they're corpo-trained chuubas? I wonder if they get different treatment by nijisanji

>>41317546
Zutomayo concert is 10x bigger and also sony contract is 100000x bigger and being the inspiration for Uta is legit 1000000000x bigger

>>41317554
They would have to treat it like traditional idol business where aspirant fan girls apply and then are trained and groomed into shape, this may be possible in JP but Cover is too incompetent to have that kind of infrastructure for EN, so EN rots.

>>41317506
Interesting, first time hearing about this. It makes sense though if someone is just too good to leave rotting 6 months in VTA.

>>41317546
Ame solving a crime in gookland and being reported by mainstream media. I don't know if that counts lmao

>>41317384
If they were good, they would've already got a comfortable following on twitch so no need to join a corpo with permission hell
>>41317490
"talented" people don't get into vtubing, which requires being able to entertain an audience with just your voice and no react content

>>41317646
i think you didn't understand that anon

>>41317651
>but Cover is too incompetent to have that kind of infrastructure for EN
That's fucking expensive useless in the west
You are retarded for even thinking about that

>>41317349
Why? Dont you want someone good?

kek, it seems Mori didn't just recline from her 2020 "please let me play" gimmick stream (that was expected, that went viral, more or less).
She did recline from her first Persona 5 stream too.

This one is easy to blame tho: poor choice of slot for today as opposed to one better for North America two months ago

>>41317651
low IQ cope

>>41317786
p3 isnt as popular

>>41317786
Holostats failed to pick the right number for Mori first Persona 5 stream too, it was actually 10k+

>>41317453
Do you really want an EN zoomer fawning over tempus while playing valorant all day?

>>41317840
And the cuckbeat reveals itself.

>>41317786
P3 isnt popular specially not compared to p5

>>41317691
Their best bet is probably a struggling musician who can't break into the algorithm or is a shit networker. All it takes is one breakout song. Lots of musicians out there waiting for their big break.

>>41317546
The first take stopped being relevant 3 years ago

>>41317841
There's nothing wrong with only playing Valorant.

>>41317546

>>41317904
kek

>>41317841
I want EN Kaela. Where the fuck they found her?

>>41317609
From what I understand, the experienced VTA students get the same 'lessons' as the inexperienced members, but they don't stream 30 mins a week to practice what they learned.

It's actually quite genius - or insidious, depending on how you look at it - because Anycolor essentially get to stockpile dozens of people into this education system and say 'As long as you complete the program you'll join Nijisanji'. Even though they're allowed to use their experience to apply for other companies, when faced with the decision of guaranteed Niji or applying for 1 of 5 annual spots in Hololive, they're probably all going to choose Niji.

I love Pekora first and foremost.
I like holoJP second.
I tolerate IRyS third.
I dislike EN and ID fourth.
I hate homos and sympathisers fifth.

>>41317828
>>41317888
One would expect that being the punchline to that "Atlus, let me play Persona 3" stream would carry some weight in whether or not this particular stream would be a buff.

>>41317931
in her house playing games all day

>>41317890
Musicians are very prideful, they would just use hololive as stepping stone to further their RM career.
And only commercial pop songs become breakout songs in the west

>>41317964
nigga is still p3 at morning hours

>>41317931
No idea, but if you want an EN streaming monster, just watch her. Unless you can't go over tribalfaggotry enough to watch things you would otherwise enjoy.

>>41317506
>VTA announce auditions for inexperienced aspiring creators, and then they announce 'Gen x.5 auditions' for experienced streamers which is essentially a timed audition.
This is pretty much the resurrection of that "Nijisanji Network", except they're vetting who gets to use the Nijisanji moniker first.

>>41318015
>they would just use hololive as stepping stone to further their RM career
who really cares? People dislike Mori about that, but it's not like it really hurt her that much especially in her prime.
And, let's be real, Mori is more socially autistic than most people. They can find someone with similar levels of ambition and talent who can handle the situation with more grace and tact.

>>41317931
There's something about the asian societies that women turn out to be more otakus and/or gamers than the west.

>>41318035
I'm not seeing how "it is possible to find a good streamer for the EN market like they found Kaela for the ID market" morphed into "just watch Kaela"

>>41317952
>It's actually quite genius - or insidious, depending on how you look at it - because Anycolor essentially get to stockpile dozens of people into this education system and say 'As long as you complete the program you'll join Nijisanji'. Even though they're allowed to use their experience to apply for other companies, when faced with the decision of guaranteed Niji or applying for 1 of 5 annual spots in Hololive, they're probably all going to choose Niji.
Yeah I'd definetely call that insidious. Nijisanji is gonna create so many broken toys It's no wonder they have so many 3views.

We play up next! This is the final test match for the team to be adjusted ahead of /vt/ League 4

>https://isthisliv.com/vtleague/
>https://isthisliv.com/vtleague/
>https://isthisliv.com/vtleague/

Covers internal data showed that Council didnt bring a projected quota of new viewers and merely bled Myth lower overall. Seeing this they opted to try expand to some female audiences as HoloEN had very low female audience by pushing for male vtubers but under the pressure of NijiENs fast expansionist approach with rapid fire waves they were forced to scout and debut more male vtubers faster before market share completely evaporated.

>>41318035
Can't. She's not streaming right now.

>>41318089
If Mori debuted with Council instead of Myth she wouldn't even be getting a fraction of the views with her music than she's getting now

>>41318096
They can’t even find a Pekora who actually care about streaming consistently, let alone a Kaela

>>41318131
i forgot this was happening thank you divegrass anon

>>41317952
>when faced with the decision of guaranteed Niji or applying for 1 of 5 annual spots in Hololive, they're probably all going to choose Niji.
They can do both

>>41317896
cope and seethe
but even if that's true, we holochads will make it relevant again!!

>>41317904
This is Coco, right? I don't read Japanese. What does this say?

>>41318203
apply? yes. But statistically speaking they're getting in nijisanji.

>>41318089
Mori is one of the only extroverted en's.

>>41318254
>apply? yes. But statistically speaking they're getting in nijisanji.
Yes, the ones that did not get picked by hololive

>>41318227
West Taiwan is the property of Taiwan.
>Japan
>America
>Taiwan
>Philippines
>Indonesia
For the poll

>>41318131
oh shit its versus /2434/

>>41318131
I don't think I can bear to watch another footy game after United slipped in the last fucking minute yesterday
I'm still mad

>>41317786
embarassing post
P5 is way more popular, she streamed it at peak NA hours and it had "first persona game buff".
retard

>>41318141
I'm talking about Kotoka. She's EN Kaela if you can get over the tribalfaggotry.

I don't really know why there's so much focus put on the "stream talent" in the EN market when pretty much all of the current ENs were primarily youtubers. Ame is the only one who had streaming as her main content.
And this isn't even getting into the fact that barely any of them announced their graduations ahead of time. Didn't Kronii announce her graduation like, the day before her holo debut?

It makes more sense to look at the anime youtuber space for new ENs since that seems to be what Cover has prioritized in the past.

>I want EN Kaela/Koyori
When are you guys gonna realize that western whores have no work ethic?

>>41318366
there was no reason for Myth rm to announce shit, hololive in english was a new concept that had no legs and was untested for how well it would do. Council all started dropping like flies over like 6 months with Kronii being like a few days before debut.

>>41318347
Meh

>>41317080
Anon, it's precrecorded and it isn't a first take

>>41318347
>Ark#16
She truly is NijiJP(EN)
Also the Ark arc was the worse arc in both Holo and Niji

>>41318366
>when pretty much all of the current ENs were primarily youtubers
And they sucked when they first debuted

>>41318405
They exist, just not in Hololive
>Elira
>Scarle
>Kotoka

>>41318366
>holoen hires youtubers
>they dont stream
>nijien hires streamers
>they stream

>>41318227
>This is Coco, right?

>>41318254
Right. It's a vtuber internship.

You complete the internship and you get your proverbial certificate. Anycolor offer them a full-time position and business prospects, and even though they're FREE to decline and apply for another company, doing so could mean you don't get in ANY company.

It's a foreign concept for the industry but it is ultimately Anycolor offering students job security for completing the course. Everyone involved wins.

>>41318468
Scarle and Kotoka sure, Elira no

>>41318535
>Everyone involved wins.
Even Susan who gets the blood sacrifice of 97% of their subs.

>>41318594
>Elira no
yeah, you picked the timeframe where she went to Japan 1 month and never streamed lmao. Wasn't Elira the niji with the most hours streamed in 2022?

I can't even imagine an EN Kaela or Korone... just some autistic gamer girl who spends every day playing some random ass kusoge for 10 hours straight with cute energy and enthusiasm... fuck i wish I was Indonesian

>>41318594
Check her streams for previous months. She was just away for nearly three weeks to get her 3D debut finished. She streams an average of 40 hours a week not including her membership streams, which add another 8 hours.

>>41318468
none of them are western tho

>>41318131

>>41318535
Until you realize they just debuted hundreds of VTA livers so getting into nijisanji stops being profitable

>>41318535
>Everyone involved wins.
I don't know about that, I feel there's a cultural barrier here. But thanks for the info.

STARTING
>https://isthisliv.com/vtleague/

>>41318667
What the fuck is Scarle if not Western, she's white as hell

>AND THERE IT GOES
Hololive beat the all time record high average for their JP branch.
They did beat it on the 16th and today it is still over the Dec 2021 mark, with it being 13380.

I expect it start receding a little, with the MAGNIFICENT first two weeks of January 2023 being one of the strongest in the whole vtuber industry
I also expect the low and mid level chuubas of the branch to incline a little with the minecraft arc

>>41318709
lolno. Also if you were using "western" as white your post is even dumber than I thought

This ad brought my vod back 15 minutes, has this been happening the whole time? Have I been watching the same scene over and over

GOOOOAAAAAAAAAAL

The box is too strong...

THE HOLOBOX IS EVIL!!! THE HOLOBOX IS A HOLOCULT!

>>41317901
t. Laplus

>>41318813
Get an addblocker anon
Or even better premium since it gives a lot back to the actual streamers.

>Nijis getting BTFO by Holobox
Just like in real life

>>41317901
Kys Kobo

THE BOX IS EVIL!

>>41316707
Huh? what's the bloodbath? 2 streams for the same fanbase, a member stream for another fanbase that MAY have watched, and a stream for another fanbase that definitely would not watch?

Also does Vesper literally not do anything but fucking zatsus holy shit. Surely he can creadivdad something if he doesn't want to play games.

A lot of Gura tweets recently, she feeling betteR?

>>41318646
I mean Pomu was also in Japan for the same timeframe and beat her, and Pomu is also almost double Elira's hours this month and is more entertaining too, holy shit fuck Pokemon.
>>41318656
40 hours a week Elira isn't coming back. I'll gladly eat my words if she returns to her early 2022 form but until then I'll wait.

>>41319033
they gave her manager a raise

>>41319033
Yes, Manechan is felling better

Who scored for us?

>>41319033
She is coming back soon

>>41318997
>Vesper literally not do anything but fucking zatsus
He has a shitty laptop that barely handles OBS.

>>41319061
Holobox pushing.

>>41319061
the Holobox

>>41319061

>>41318884

Bronze Boi is gonna tie it up I feel it

>>41318997
stuck in japan with shitty cover-loaned labtop.

>>41318668
Why the fuck isn't our roster updated yet

tokyo ghoul can't kick for shit

>>41317904
Unironically if you want to save HoloEN this is the moment you go back in time and stop the dumb bitch from reading Taiwan. She was the bridge, without her EOPs forgot about HoloJP, HoloJP was always keeping the side branches afloat even in the west.

>>41319085
>>41319090
>>41319099
THE HOLOBOX IS EVIL!

>>41319036
I don't give a shit about when they were in Japan, how about using larger samples of data and not handpicking meaningless small timeframes

Sana i miss you...

So assuming JP 7 , EN3 and ID4 all debut this year what are the chances of them participating in Next years Holo Fest

>>41319211
Hololive is currently pausing all recruitment to put resources into HoloEarth.

>>41317197
This is the dumbest shit I see posted here. There are plenty of very talented people out there. Just stop.

>>41319208
Sana line with the strongest performance, and kek, commentators are rooting for nijis

Sana finally putting in a good performance before getting taken out behind the shed.

>>41319211
>ID4
mein anon..the ID auditions..
the ID auditions aren't open

I have a good feeling about this.

The average Niji can't go past the Sana line....

>>41319275
Our role is pretty much being the villains in Divegrass, which is pretty fun. Now if we could stop jobbing it would be even better.

Here comes the funnel

>>41317080
i wonder what song she will sing
hoping for andromeda

Can we out Homobeggar/Homocollabs on the roster

>>41319165
I mean I could just use this month's data but I don't have the charts and too lazy to make them. Big timeframes are nice but misleading because a vtuber can change a lot in a year. Look at the Luxiem boys who all dropped off in streaming hours since debut or half the HoloEN girls. 2022 charts would have Gura with like 15-20k ccv when her ccv in practice is 0.

TODAY IT DOES NOT SLIP!
>KNEEL TO NUMBERS!

>>41316746
Nice debut numbers Nijikiddos, but you've got a long way to go

>>41319211
>EN3
A myth.

Mito got passed the Sana line...

We are such fucking jobbers

>>41319360
For me 3:12 is also good, but feels like Stellar Stellar is given since that's her most successful and also lyrics are inspiring

>/#/ slips
Poetic.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

RIGGED!

>>41319302
Looks like a good risk to me

>>41319410
Anon?!

>>41319302
>Palace over Newcastle
Throwing away free money

>>41319410
>Nui's Tits
That's a powerful player.

>>41318131
we slipped wtf
who jobbed this???

What's the Sana line?

>>41319559
Newcastle have only lost one game, isn't it about time?

>>41318722

>>41319625
the actual Sana line was 4.2k career average

>>41319625
The goalkeeper in this game, and the fact no NijiEN girl had a higher monthly median than Sana for her whole career, making her the "impassable line" for NijiEN girls

>nijisanji spams shots to just break even with the holobox

>>41319622
Number queen Pekora didn't do shit, Sana being Dana.

>>41319709
>it worked

>>41319709
Poetic

Reminder that Fillian is the STRONGEST vtuber

>>41319410
Jinxed it.

Shouldn't the numbers queen be Migo after this pathetic performance from Pekora?
Plus I'm tired of seeing Peko on half the /vt/ teams. Why the fuck doesn't Miko get as much representation despite being just as popular?

>>41319778
How many views she has overall, 450M? 450M x ~5$ is not that bad
Not a Vtuber though.

>>41319778
Fuck that's grim.

>>41319816
>Just as popular

Anyone know who this is? Is it someone working for Holo or holoearth or something?

>>41317786
persona 5 is far more popular then persona 3, lets be real. Her P3 streams will probably reach live a live tier within a few of them.

Good match, we slipped it at the end but that's what test matches are for, so the team can be tweaked before VTL propper.

>>41319816
Obvious bait, but I only do what the polls tell me. And the Polls chose Pekora, who in the upcoming VT League will be the Gold medal.

>>41319852
Anon that's less than $2.5k.
>1 million is $5
>450 x 5 = 2250

>we have to win a single match yet

>>41319816
You can't have 70k - 100k streams everyday anon. Gotta space out the content.

so todays holoen stream is a superchat reading from amelia that shes been putting off for about 2 months

>>41319852
450M would net her $3041.42 at the same rate. That's the same a regular update makes with 3M views meaning the sum of her shorts made less money that Moona did with High Tide

>>41319987
Mumei karaoke

>>41319987
QUALITY > QUANTITY BABY

>>41319987
There's also Kronii, Mumei, and 2 member streams

>>41319945
Still more than what my poor ass gets. I should start translating some shit and start doing Peko shorts. This might become worth the shot in a few months/years. If TikTok actually gets banned from many countries this could become a great source of revenue.

>Gura coming back soon (as proven by the frequency of her tweets)
>Laplus coming back soon (as proven by the girls talking about her during the main channel skit)
Nature is healing.

>>41319987
and almost a dozen Tempus streams

Who's the shorts queen in Niji/Holo anyways?

>>41320075
Watame

>>41320075
Probably Selen no?

why does p3p look like a few steps down from p3fes. I'd rather just get the rip of fes.

>>41320022
>jp karaoke at asscrack hours
>members streams
i guess i skipped over kronii i was more meaning at hours most people might be able to tune into

>>41319919
Iofi would have drawn it better

>>41320075
Marine/Watame. Anons in this thread shat on Pekora's but for the mediocre quality she still has some pretty good views on her shorts too.

>>41320117
>why does a handheld look worse then something made for a real console

>>41320115
What are Selena's short numbers? I never bothered to check

>>41320071
>check tempiss streams
>sub 1k from new tempiss2 mecha twinkfag
i thought he was going to be their star is he actually the midget?

>>41320117
It was originally made to run on the PSP. It has better gameplay + the Fem MC to compensate for the lacking overworld movement and cutscenes.

>>41320138
>Watame
Not really, she smartened up and dropped shorts for regular uploads on her GiriGiri series, obviously after seeing how little revenue it would bring in comparison

>>41320176
Literally just check, I do know I see her shorts the most compared to any other Niji

>>41320075
Gwelu taught Nijisanji how to Shorts.

>>41320130
>8pm PST is now asscrack hours
EST/Euro detected
It's been a longstanding issue though that without Ina and Fauna doing public streams, no one else can step up in that time frame except maaaaybe Ame. That is never going to change without hiring more Euros/ESTers.

>>41320170
are handhelds really that bad? I haven't had one since the vita but there were games on there that looked a lot better than this.

A new rivalry is born

>>41320224
>Researching anything about Nijisanji that I don't just find from /#/
Pass.

>>41320188
they put him under the bus, he starts first all the time and never gets a funnel

>>41320188
nah the femboy was never going to stand out, he's too flamboyant. My bet was for the buff fag (fujo appeal) and the mexican.

>>41320259
>no overlap
>sun 1k in an okay timeslot
Hopefully Cover learns their lesson here and doesn't hire more fags.

>>41320259
holy grim

>>41320333
>>41320259
He actually lost like 60 viewers

>>41320283
Fujos don't like buff men. They like sticks like Luxiem.

>>41320259
last night he got corrected by nina, now finana. Kind of a step down desu

>>41320333
>Cover learns their lesson
yes have the girls on the field shilling day 0

>>41320391
the only reason tempus vanguard is doing so bad is because they didnt leverage the girls with another watchalong like tempus hq got.

>>41320259
Looks like he needs a few new branchmates to help him out

>>41320376
yeah I know but I was counting with the gap, he studied to be a lawyer, he's kind of an oversexed dork. Also fags were going crazy over his voice.

>>41320333
Hopefully they hire EXCLUSIVELY fags. Crashing this branch.

>>41320504
that's pretty much what they did with tempoop

>>41320536
Bettel, Hakka, and Shinri are all brotubers.

So is Nina the new queen of the EU slot?

>>41320495
>Fags were going crazy over his voice
Exactly. Buff man with deep voice is a classic bara trope. Baras attract fags.
You would think with how the Luxiem faggots have been around that you'd understand what appeals to women and what doesn't. The fact that no one thought Bettel was going to be the stand out star is laughable when it was painfully obvious he had the best model for attracting women

>twitch primetime, where content creators grind their way to become millionaires
>vtubing picrel

>>41320333
They just got 22k on a blockbuster collab, some of the best non-event numbers HoloEN has had in months. The lesson is to accelerate!

>>41320237
god i hate this nigger

>>41320596

>>41320647
Tomoe...

>>41320735
What's the problem

>>41320596
once a fag always a fag

>>41316727
More like fag95

>>41320768
you

>>41320596
brotuber is a myth, they are all fags

>>41320735
wait wasn't vamfag monetization stream the hotsauces one? or was the memberships?

>>41320825
It was, people are not lying with the whole "budget Vesper" thing

>>41320735
>spicy
hot ones

Sometimes people don't understand the usefulness of Minecraft, here is an example of how good it can be to create plots out of the thin air
>New MC Server! R.I.P. Ichirou & Jirou, Heroes Pekora Sacrificed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJZlhfJPmA8

It's a silly one off adventure, "in and out in 3 hours" but it helps immensely to get the audience to turn out for the next "episode".
And even the ones who missed this stream will catch the clips and get interested.

ID girls already boarded the server. JP girls likewise.
I wonder if at very least Fauna will seize the chance and jump right in, and also I wonder of the EN girls will bite the bullet and try to be there when the JP girls are (specially Watame and Flare, which usually take the "night shift")

>>41320015
>>41320022
Mumei is dumb, she should have done the JP karaoke tomorrow, she won't get any JOP tourists on a Friday noon

I would have less of a problem with Tempiss if they actually bothered to hire people with some talent.

>>41320961
Anyone who can generate more than 300 CCV is a win in Covers eyes. Look how they still support JP stars

>>41321013
>300 CCV
you can say 100 without being an hyperbole, Uyu exists

>>41320961
Holostars is shit brand. No one with talent will ever apply to it,

>>41318470
>holos get infinite money just from being in hololive, anything they earn from streaming is pocket change
>nijis have to actually work for it to make money or they're instantly forgotten
maybe accelerate isn't so bad

So nobody answered me yesterday, but what happened to the Mazuma split? I heard there was drama but I can't find her split anymore. Was it that bad?

>>41320935
Dont they only take sundays off like good god fearing Christians?

>>41321172
What's a Mazuma?

>>41321172
If they're not dumb they'll retreat to either vsj+ or to discords because there is no upside for their presence to continue in this hostile (to them) board

>>41321172
Nazuna fuck auto correct

>>41321013
Anyone who isn't fired in their first month is seen as a win. You literally can't be a failure if the bar is set that low so they'll always have some justification, at least in Yagoo's eyes.
>>41321046
I was curious and checked his stream the other day and the guy gets 0-3 chat messages per minute.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaZAlU-PmWc
>Sometimes we loose the bigger picture
Hololive girls have built an amazing fanbase and helped a lot of people, no amount of numbers can overshadow that

>>41320961
Okay, people always talk about talent but what the fuck are they looking for? Streaming to an audience and keeping it is a talent.

>>41321290
why you have to post this video anon

>>41321172
They've been bunkering in their discord ever since she started actively collabing with guys.

>>41320596
I know Axel, i know. You already said that bullshit several times /here/.
The damage Tempiss did to the StarsEN reputation is beyond repair plus Vesper and Kronii keeps aggravating it, so it doesn't matter how many you times you come with the "brotuber" larp, it will never work. Tempiss and Tempoop are groomers, not brotubers.

>>41321172
I would guess some infighting about the recent male collab drama? I think you would have more luck asking in vsj+ instead of here.

>>41320936
Good luck. Half the EN girls either don't care for Minecraft or will only play if they are with a group, meaning no one ends up playing.

>>41321332
we need this sometimes anon, to remind ourselves

>>41321172
It still exists, you're actually retarded if you can't find it

>>41320237
is he still dead

>>41321466
Think so, dude prob just bought an extended trip for his family to Okinawa or something.

>>41321344
Collabing with guys? Wasn't she a GFE chuuba? What happened? Qrd?

>>41320936
>retard sees a 2.6k views clip and talks about how it's some genius content

>>41321515
a month is a lot.

Did the rangebans expire? I see some retard bumping page 11 bait threads with empty replies to the OP, and I can post images again now

But really why doesn’t the gamer of Tempus play games anymore?

>>41321621
2 weeks for Christmas and NY 2 weeks for a trip to someplace sunny.
But yeah I expect him to be back again soon if he doesn't just get unceremoniously canned like Yugo.

EN needs a mesugaki. A teasing and fun cunny that fits the model. Someone fans can correct and twitter can seethe about. A cute girl who knows every fan wants to penetrate her and flaunts it. Unfortunately you would probably only find a twitch whore who doesn't understand the nuance in not just saying something lewd but letting a fun larp play out with the fanbase.

>>41321708
Yugo graduated though

Why do even their mengens overlap?

>>41321740
Sure whatever makes you sleep at night.

>>41321740
>graduated

>>41321767
Proof next thread he was terminated?

>>41321804
I honestly don't care sister. Just go and watch his graduation ceremony or something.

>>41321731
>Can never produce dakis
Worthless design for EN market.

Talking about tribalism, I recently went to try out clips of certain nijiEN girls. She certainly couldn't survive being in holoEN because she collabs with male naturally. But let's say if we swap Selen, Pomu and Enna with Mori, Kronii and Bae together with their models, what will the tribalism looks like in this bizzaro world?

>>41321609
It's not "genius content": Quite the contrary, it's the most pedestrian and easy to execute content and, yet, it bring HUGE numbers for most involved.
It doesn't take a genius to understand it's a nice meta to be a part of.

>>41321886
They'd unironically mog their HoloEN counterparts

>>41321928
roboco....

>>41321886
it'd be exactly the same

>>41321965
Koyo Miko Botan overlap is harsh

>>41321886
>Enna
She would be even more hated than Mori

>>41322057
Nah she's only hated becayse she's in Niji

>>41321965
Roboco might have picked the WORST timing to board the server
>pic related
I hope she follows through with it tho

>>41322113
Unironically yes. I hate her because she's in Niji. What are you going to do about it?

>>41321886
Prime Mori had something none of them can offer really, it's a shame really looking back on it. Kronii and Bae, who knows how replaceable they are. I think maybe Enna could pull of Kronii's model but you'd just be exchanging a gook with a cuck fetish for a chink with a cuck fetish. Pomu might have been a better Bae but we'll never know.

>>41322162
I don't need to do anything about it

>>41322113
You could say that about many nijis, but not Enna. She's a personification of what is wrong with NijiEN.

>>41322226
They would keep their models in anon's scenario

>>41322226
Considering Pomu is currently moving Bae, I guarantee you she'd have been a better pick in the long run

>>41322242
>personification of what is wrong with NijiEN.
And what's that?

>>41322396
She's getting good numbers

>>41322396
Aloupeeps cucked again

>>41322242
Other than being a male collaber (which Mori herself is one) and being a decent singer I don't really know anything about Enna.

>>41321886
All I know is /b/omugate would have been 10x more of a shitshow if she was a holo

>>41322457
maybe 6 months ago

>>41322493
bomu wouldve broke the board rather than just been a fart for a week

>>41322489
I don't think Enna would be a male collaber if she was a holo. She does it now cause she knows were the money is in Niji, you suck the cock or you walk the streets. That's the only option. In Holo the money is on the non collabers side, so she'd follow that and probably try to orbit gura as much as she could.

Ina gonna work herself into an early grave.

>>41322242
and yet she's their most successful female lol
how long is it going to take you to realise that you're not the target audience and you don't need to seethe about that because there's plenty other chuubas out there to watch

>>41322698
>and yet she's their most successful female lol
still a terrible bar

Again: EN girls leaving money (numbers) at the table here.
Here are the clips for the Miko - Botan - Koyoti - Roboco streams of today (with some repeated due to being from multiple girls).
It's this type of interactions and "crossovers" that get the "box" going and the EN girls are about the miss the boat ONCE AGAIN

>>41321886
Mori is too weird of an example for this thought experiment. Her CCV is straight ass but she brings other shit to the table that the LOE girls would never ever be able to achieve

I think Kronii would still have better tourist draw than any of the LOE girls because of her doomer shitposting which gives her a unique appeal. I could see her day to day indie kuso streams getting mogged though

I think Pomu would be around Fauna or Mumei tier, Selen about the same as Bae, and Enna would be more popular than Bae but also be way more hated and have an audience completely detached from the rest of HoloEN

>>41322493
>>41322587
Nah, consider how mild people's reaction when they found out who Mumei and Fauna are I think bomu would do fine, people would get banned even if they post the wikihow version of "How to get popular" edit of Pomu so the entire thing won't even be a fart for a week.

>>41321928
>HUGE numbers
Pic unrelated?
Those look like fairly average numbers for most of them, maybe a slight buff, only one standing out is Kanata who was the first person to stream it and then lost most of her viewers.
That's even Koyoris 2nd lowest streams in the last 10 days, only her Final Fantasy stream was worse.
I think you're overhyping this a bit.

>>41321928
>Koyori snipes Miko minutes after logging in
>on the other hand Pekora went to Iroha instead while she was gathering
Pekora will boost Iroha this year. I feel it in my bones

>>41322113
Why are Aloupeeps like this? I actually like a lot of the NijiEN girls, even Nina who the sisters hate, but I can't stand Enna outside of her singing.

>>41322801
that was at the start so people could accept it, in this timeframe it would happen quite a bit of time in after people got attached

>>41322660
holy shit the second rarest event in holoEN after mooms starting a stream on time

>>41320936
Do a full reset of the servers and we'll talk

>>41322770
enna would be called a disgusting slut every fucking day if she had holo audience

>>41322810
what do you expect, it's the fucking retard with the walls of text and the vrabi screenshots, the dude doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about

Superbuff handcam stream, remember to be grateful for the numbers you've got. There, I've done my work for the day.

>150 people still milling about in ame's freechat

what the fuck

>>41322857
Don't worry she'll spend the first 45 minutes eating

>>41322801
>Nah, consider how mild people's reaction when they found out who Mumei and Fauna
You and I have very different definitions of mild. I did reps on the board at the time recently and /who/ was a shitposting den for a straight month. /uuu/ still isn't permanent because they don't want to deal with shitposters.

You think Aqua and Shion can beat their personal records of not streaming? I can feel they will

so why is vesper straming at this time seems like a waste

>>41322852
I like her when she talks about how her experience was like as a Chinese Canadian.

>>41322982
just call it Chinese ffs

>>41322658
This is 100% not true. You can collab with males without inserting your NTR fetish into it. It's why Selen never gets shitposted for male collabs. Fagelira didn't give a shit about the Shu offcollab but I imagine it would have been different if they did a handholding stream like Enna and Kyo.

>>41322969
wym hes overlapping the best prospect of tempoop to sap his potential audience

>>41322698
That's not a gotcha you think is, nijisister. She works well in shithole that is NijiEN. Her shitty personality wouldn't work in Hololive. Entire conversation started after all with her being exchanged to HoloEN and that simply wouldn't work.

What did Fauna do to get 3k subs in a day? Is it sharing an artist with the new Niji?

>>41322932
You know, Gura had to say she's on a break after just a few months of Ayameing out. But what did Aqua tell her fanbase? Did her and Ayame ever bother sitting down and talking to their fanbase about this shit?

>>41323035
She is a Chinese living in Canadian though? And what she talks about would probably happen for her only if she lives in North America but not somewhere else so that is actually an important context right there.

>>41323110
holopoi bug

>>41323110
Pretty sure holostats didn't track for some days and they caught up today.

>>41323045
That’s because they know Shu will never score

>>41323110
holostat was bugged for awhile and accounted all the subs of the past days as from today.

>>41323120
Aqua didn't have any official break statement but she did have a stream where she explained she's completely burnt out on streaming

>>41322892
maybe those people fell asleep, went to work the next day and forgot to look at the pc on the way out. PPTAX

>>41323070
I am curious. What's Enna's personality like that she is hated by nijiEN viewers too (albeit having decent numbers per nijiEN standard)?

>>41323120
Aqua basically told her fans that she doesn’t enjoy streaming anymore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJ6taXgMfAo
cant wait 1/22

>>41323194
>>41323250
O-oh..

>>41323250
I actually like that Aqua is being honest with her fans.

Amelia about to destroy her good january average with a superchat reading stream

>>41323120
Ayame talked to her fans about it, she said those fucking gaijin need to learn japanese if they're gonna bitch about it.

>>41322920
I am pretty sure hoomins and siplings mass reported those posts so they are deleted and banned anyway. It won't stay up like the wikihow edit.

>>41322932
Azu-chan my beloved. She already has streamed 5h40 out for the previous 38 hours. She can incline for sure this year!

>>41323329
one stream isnt enough to do that
that being said shre is called debuffson fora reason she wont be back to regular strea until next week anyway

>>41323272
mike de gatto will check #絵クロマンサー on twitter in that day

>>41323380
well yeah but if you're on the board you still have to deal with that shit lol. I'm sure if you waited till threads get archived to read them the shitshow would have indeed looked much more mild than it was in the moment

>>41323305
That's because you don't watch her. If my oshi said that, I'd drop them immediately because I'd know their time was up and they were just going to coast until graduation

>>41323505
You'd stop watching streams of someone who's not streaming anymore? How stunning and brave.

>>41323505
I mean it is a better way to go. We all know Gura's time was up but not only is there no delivery, there is no real communication between her and chumbuds.

Not looking good...

>>41323194
>>41323250
It's a pity. She was a prolific content creator. The AI can't come sooner.

>>41323631
Drama debuff?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVaQpUUAzik
do your reps on one of the best holo orisong of 2022, didn't even gain 1k the whole day while i was out.

>>41323250
man it's really fucking tragic seeing the nijikiller gamer maid reduced to the hollow shell of a corporate mascot she is now, at least we had the brief comeback tour early last year but now it doesn't even seem like she's doing her idol reps much

>>41323631
Extremely kimoi

>>41323631
The fact Vesper gets fewer views on all his content that isn't his shitty Zatsu/SC reading is astounding.

>>41323631
Grim

>>41323585
She's been pretty active on twitter

>>41323692
great you've summoned the it's mane-chan fags

>>41323692
1 to 2 tweets per day is not active.

>>41323679
The overlap is killing him, this would probably 4k in his normal slot.

>>41323631
where is my 8k box

>>41323659
I always check if my youtube is in playback speed 1.5x or something when I hear Kingworld
It just sounds like a sped up mess with no particularly interesting parts

>>41323760
I think it's streaming outside his normal slot is more of a factor than overlap. Having a regular schedule is key and changing slots is death

>>41323692
professional vtweeter gawr gura

>>41323760
>Overlap killing Vesper
Wasn't he supposed to be one that is black hole during overlap?

>>41323631
AAAAAAAAAAA MY EYES
TOO MUCH OVERWHELMING SUCCESS IN ONE PLACE
YAGOO PLEASE DEBUT MORE OF THEM I NEED IT

>>41323760
that is entirely on vesper
ronin into vesper into flyon into the rest should have been the perfect schedule why the fuck are they not doing it is beyond me.
now they left flyon to open Euro times

>>41323631
>>41323653
Overlap hitting a very small box. Madmax Trayvon was almost at 1.2k before the others started. I dunno whether he lost more to clown or chinpire, but either way it looks like if there's not something big going on the numbers for them look exactly what you'd expect to see after a wet fart of a debut wears off.

>>41322113
Her personality is bad. I don't hate any of the other females in Niji.

>>41323816
EN only has one black hole and it's not a homo

>Ranking NIJI EN's Mommy/Daddy potential with Scarle Yonaguni by Nina Kosaka
Nijifags, explain to me why the fuck is this stream 5 hours long and still going?

>>41323631
Look at all of those people whose voice was heard and wishes were answered

>>41323631
Why do the non-Vesper ones even stream at this time slot?

so they are overlapping vesper on purpose because of what happened right?

>>41323858
only the first hour is worthwhile

>>41323631
They’re straining the limits of the Tempus box

>>41323839
Vesper fucked it all by going to Japan. His usual slot is at 3 am JST or something.

>>41323760
FAST, COMMENT THE CLIP

>>41323853
The tempus blackhole, not overall one.

>>41323631
W-well this is actually very good compared to StarsJP

>>41323631
cannibalization status?

>>41323839
This isn't the first time vesper has conspicuously overlapped his new kouhai, plus he skipped out on that collab.
No way to know for sure, but it's not unbelievable that he might be mad that they stole Tempus1's thunder with a new gen way too fast. Could be the thing he blew up about that landed him a suspension I guess.

>>41323873
More like vesper is overlapping them, the other homos have scheduled timeslots.

>>41323962
Not anymore.

>>41323858
It just became a glorified zatsu between Nina and Scarle and the reason it's still going is because Scarle's internet cut off and Nina has now switched to an actual zatsu. They stopped the tier list thing over an hour ago.

>>41324012
The Tempus mixed gender collabs get over 3 times Roberu's numbers though

>>41324012
What's the new homocope going to be now?

>>41323194
>>41323250
>>41323663
>>41323303
>>41323120
Everything changed when chink niggers attacked her during her apex stream and then kept spamming her until she had a mental breakdown and right after that breakdown coco announced her graduation and they started ttacking her again to "get back" at the other chink niggers who were attacking coco. After this it was completely over for her. Mind literally broken. Chinks were a tremendous mistake.

>>41322854
People could accept it because time eventually passed increasing plausible deniability, Fauna scrubbed her entire life from the internet, and Mumei became a menhera who mumbles about how she lives alone, doesn't spend much time outside, and has almost no friends outside of Holo and is "super disconnected from friends and family"
It's pretty naive to think the shitposting just stopped naturally cause people took their meds or something. If either got into a yab today it would be just as bad as back then

>>41324035
Explains the graph I guess.

>>41324035
1.7k people watching a 4 hours long zatsu?

>>41323380
Given how much I still see Holo antis posting council dox in the Niji threads, it just means she would get a bunch of Niji antis who shit on her and call her whoremu or whatever, and catalog shitters who spam every thread of hers with >he doesn't know

>>41323815
Ina didn't get half of this shit while only tweeting 2 times (one for shilling) before returning. I guess sisters are desperate for her to graduate.

>>41323997
Axel's manager got fired because Vesper fucked her in rage after Tempus2 got announced.