/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

bots

>>41099104
Funny enough, this Takamori clip became the best clips of this somewhat big clipper in under a week. I'm pretty sure a Takamori offcollab where they shipbait a bit would mog the homocollab. And that's Mori and Kiara, the two weakest EN. An Amesame collab could easily get 30K. 40K if it's an offcollab

>>41099360
It’s pretty grim that Homo collab is the biggest thing happening in EN right now. Meanwhile in JP people get to watch PeKorone duel

>>41099488
Recent clip numbers
>>41040173
>>41040192
>>41040219
>>41040241
>>41040262

We blew through a whole thread withing an hour. Great job guys.

Vesper and Kronii should date and break up with huge drama between them to draw numbers like dem twitch streamers.

>>41099531
>An Amesame collab could easily get 30K.
AmeSame collabs weren't getting 30k in 2021 anon. What the fuck are you smoking?

>>41099587
Just need to shipbait a bit.

>>41099610
Look at that empty space, EN3 soon.

>>41099649
>unarchived karaoke
>first off-collab
>advertised to 40k viewers at the end of Gura's bday
I can't even remember the last time Gura talked to Ame on stream. How many months has it been?

>>41099534
Yeah, holoen is just pretty empty while jp has stuff happening everyday.

>>41099296
You should have kept quiet while you had the chance, HoloEN intern.
You're mentioning that little spike in the first graph, right? >>41098536
I'll grudgepost it. Wait for it.

>>41099711
Didn't Irys literally have a kimono costume like 2 days ago?

>>41099656
>We had so many good male auditions but not enough female ones so we are putting them together into the first mixed gender generation as EN3!

>still believing in EN3
Yeah see those piles of papers which filled the entire room with no place to walk? Yeah those are the resume of the applicants for EN auditions. The "women" in HR rejected all of them without even looking and tell the clueless Jap across the pacific that "no suitable candidates as of yet".

* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>60,445: Pekora (Hololive)
>59,439: Korone (Hololive)
>36,465: Sukoya (Nijisanji)
>35,326: Toya (Nijisanji)
>28,179: Ui (Indie)
>27,135: Subaru (Hololive)
>22,545: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>21,886: Koyori (Hololive)
>21,084: Kanata (Hololive)
>20,469: Mio (Hololive)
>20,445: Nose (VSPO)
>18,784: Ririmu (Nijisanji)
>17,668: Salome (Nijisanji)
>17,043: Nene (Hololive)
>16,866: Koyori (Hololive)
>16,834: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>14,898: AZKi (Hololive)
>14,878: Chloe (Hololive)
>14,869: Watame (Hololive)
>14,094: Met (774 inc)
>14,041: Ange (Nijisanji)
>13,597: Hinano (VSPO)
>12,837: Noel (Hololive)
>12,804: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>12,652: Hayato (Nijisanji)
>12,486: Hoshikawa (Nijisanji)
>12,083: Ryushen (Nijisanji)
>11,917: Met (774 inc)
>11,619: Furen (Nijisanji)
>10,093: Nose (VSPO)

>>41099708
It was the sponsored Among Us collab in September

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxjHOox1Es8

Monkey Paw, please stop all homo-holo collabs across all branches from today onwards.

>>41099697
Pomu and Finana aren't beating Elira's 3D debut.
Maybe 45k for Pomu and 40k for Finana.

>>41099833

>>41099534
HoloEN desperately needs new blood to get them out of the rut they're currently in. They need around twenty members in order to facilitate collabs/interest and maintain a unity atmosphere even if a number of them might not really care for one another.

>>41099833
Salome made enough for Anycolor to try 40 more times for another Salome

>>41099833
ACCELERATE!

>>41099754
Yes, but look at today for example if you are a holo watcher you only got to watch Ina today. Fauna and Mumei canceled, so unless you like homos as well there is not much going on.

>>41099762
they should stop hiring talent through audition.

>>41099835
You get your wish as holostars is merged into hololive so there are now only hololive collabs.

>>41099843
Pomu is more popular than Elira though?

>>41099773
>JANUARY 2023 GOLDS
1) Hololive (Hololive) - 142,855 - Human Rabbitality Project
2) Pekora (Hololive) - 178,006 - Pokemon Metronome tournament
3) Towa (Hololive) - 101,269 - 3rd anniversary 3D live
4) Pekora (Hololive) - 139,262 - Gamers x Sankisei collab
5) Watame (Hololive) - 39,137 - Bakatare Circus ludo
6) Nerumero (Indie) - 39,961 - Genshin update mirror stream
7) Towa (Hololive) - 112,852 - Holo New Year MK Cup 2023
8) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 122,719 - Niji Mahjong Cup 2023
9) Pekora (Hololive) - 55,370 - GeoGuessr
10) Subaru (Hololive) - 54,841 - TsuneMOS Tycoon
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 43,113 - Birthday countdown
12) Pekora (Hololive) - 142,282 - 3D birthday live
13) Pekora (Hololive) - 33,367 - Minecraft RTA
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 78,227* - Holomen gift opening
15) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,445 - Pekkorone Ao Oni

>PER COMPANY
13x: Hololive
1x: Indie, Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
8x: Pekora
2x: Towa
1x: Hololive, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Subaru, Watame

Imagine if bae had a competent VA. She would've been a gura level cunny.
Imagine if kronii had a competent VA.
She would've been a gura level sex machine.
Imagine if mumei didn't take 6 months to get her shit together. She would've been a gura level shitposting god.
All 3 council model buffs were wasted.

>>41099817
That's actually even worse than I thought. I don't want to know when was the last time she talked to Ina or Kiara now lol.

>>41099951
Yes but first 3D + Kuzuha buffs

>>41099833
>>41099876
>7 girls
Is this their biggest number of debuts yet?

>>41099876
Are those girls call-ups from their minor leagues system?

>>41099951
They're practically tied, I think Elira is a bit more popular tho, Pomu just picks better games than her.

>>41099985
>imagine
>if
>what about
>would've happen
The more desperate ENkeks are, the more they sound like nijiniggers.

>>41099985
Imagine if Fauna wasn't dogshit and didn't drag down her whole gen .

*YESTERDAY’S FINAL EN TALLY *


>1/15 DAILY TALLY
9,798: IRyS (Hololive)
8,927: Selen (Nijisanji)
6,906: Kiara (Hololive)
6,837: Gavis (Hololive)
6,829: Baelz (Hololive)
6,794: Hakka (Hololive)
6,178: Ike (Nijisanji)

>EN GOLD FOR JANUARY 2023
1. Amelia (Hololive) - 19,255 (New Years Countdown and Karaoke)
2. Vox (Nijisanji) - 15,692 (Clubhouse Games w/Mysta)
3. Mumei (Hololive) - 14,736 (Tasting Fruits w/Fauna)
4. Ike (Nijisanji) - 7,576 (Kuukiyomi 3)
5. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 12,036 (Return stream)
6. Vox (Nijisanji) - 13,946 (Collab w/Petra, Enna, Reimu, Sonny, Scarle, Doppio, Kotoka, and Ver)
7. Amelia (Hololive) - 24,748 (Mini Live and Birthday Zatsu)
8. Flayon (Hololive) - 30,354 (Vtuber Debut)
9. Ina (Hololive) - 35,609 (Return Stream)
10. Pomu (Nijisanji) - 21,699 (w/Reimu, Vox, Ren, Scarle, Sonny, Uki, Aia, Kyo, Fungus, Zaion, Ike, Doppio, and Enna)
11. Alban (Nijisanji) - 10,434 (Heave Ho w/Fungus, Uki, and Sonny)
12. Ina (Hololive) - 14,195 (Drawing)
13. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 14,877 (Luxiem Off-collab)
14. Elira (Nijisanji) - 56,103 (3D Debut)
15. IRyS (Hololive) - 9,798 (GeoGuesser)

>GOLD PER COMPANY
Hololive - 7
Nijisanji - 8
Others - 0

>GOLD PER STREAMER
2x: Vox, Amelia, Ina, Mysta
1x: Mumei, Ike, Flayon, Pomu, Alban, Elira, IRyS

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
18x: Vox
16p: IRyS
14x: Ina
11x: Mysta
10x: Amelia
9x: Fauna
8x: Ike
7x: Mumei
5x: Flayon, Pomu, Alban, Elira
4p: Kiara
3x: Baelz, Sonny, Hakka, Kronii, Selen
1x: Meloco, Shinri, Gavis

>>41099833
Good luck to these girls. I wonder how they will do.

>>41100062
From thread reading in vt and all the shills by pomufags and dragoons I would think that Pomu and Selen are the only popular female nijiEN.

Jwu how was the Tempus collab? Did it surpass expectations?

>>41100095
Fauna is best EN and you love her too

>>41099937
If it wasn't a homoEN monopoly collab, it would've been Mori Persona 5 or Kronii puzzle game #16.
Neither were going to get much more than 4-6k anyways.

list of the dead/dying indies/small corpos

>Castella Inomori https://twitter.com/CastellaInomori
>Melonbread https://twitter.com/melonbread_69
>Raina Chiwawa https://twitter.com/RaniaChiwawa
>Selkie https://twitter.com/SelkieVT
>Virion Kisei https://twitter.com/virionkisei
>Sellena https://twitter.com/anelles_
>MoonJelly https://twitter.com/moonjelly0
>Suika Emi https://twitter.com/suikaemi
>Usami https://twitter.com/usami_vt
>RoaFen https://twitter.com/FenThePixie
>TsukimiLune https://twitter.com/TsukimiLune
>Etherna Celine https://twitter.com/ethernaceline
>Etherna Helen https://twitter.com/EthernaHelen
>Makoto & Akira Misaki https://twitter.com/ggnlive_withyou
>Orla Gan Ceann https://twitter.com/orlaganceann

places to end up for these streamers include
>HoloEN3 which has been running 'open auds' all year so far
>Tsunderia auditions entered "second stage" on Aug 27th low likelihood for some of these girls now

>>41100160
Huge success

>>41100133
>Hololive - 7
>Nijisanji - 8
Graduate everyone from HoloProEN who is not named Gawr Gura.

uuuughhhhhh i want to be fulgur

>>41099732
>>41099296
So, what do you call this "little spike" on a SNOT collab, after the Kronii yab?

Not just Kronii solo streams, but every collab she tooks part of, now have bizarre "Zs" or bot crash graphs plus delays, and "coincidentally", this stream in particular was also delayed by 15 minutes.
The amount of CCV she is having on her streams is also completely inconsistent.

>>41100175
Even Mori is better than Fauna. At ASMR too, even.

>>41100160
Yes and /#/ went into meltdown mode with tons of copes.

>>41100160
it magged nijien's management mandated nkodice tournament

>Final 100k+ stream for 2022 tally
1. Hololive – 35 (26)
1. Nijisanji - 34 (14)
Results: Hololive

Monthly Summary
>January: Holo (1 - 0)
>February: Tie (1 - 1)
>March: Holo (4 - 0)
>April: Holo (2 - 0)
>May: Niji (2 - 4)
>June: Holo (6 - 4)
>July: Niji (2 - 5)
>August: Niji (3 - 10)
>September: Holo (1 - 0)
>October: Niji (1 - 3)
>November: Holo (7 - 1)
>December: Niji (5 – 6)

>>41100229
Sure thing, sapling

>>41100139
Selen, Pomu and Enna are the most popular NijiEN girls
but you shouldnt look at /nijien/ for popularity and even for takes because theres many misinformation in there as well

>>41100236
>magged
>in 2023

jwu and pffffffftttttt there were seriously copers here that guaranteed sub-20k that now have to eat their bet balls. almost comical

>>41100160
it beat the 16-man NijiEN NKODICE tournament, so yeah, pretty good

>>41100212
Be careful what you wish for.

Hololive EN 11 members
>Jan: 3,626,369 (585.5hrs, 215 streams)
>Feb: 3,021,167 (439.3hrs, 146 streams, 6,878 avg)
>Mar: 4,907,065 (615.4hrs, 180 streams, 7,974 avg)
>Apr: 3,886,364 (529.2hrs, 177 streams, 7,344 avg)
>May: 3,386,966 (464.8hrs, 158 streams, 7,288 avg)
>Jun: 3,293,675
>Jul: 4,066,096
>Aug: 3,930,035 (526.1hrs, 165 streams, 7,471 avg)
>Sep: 3,340,198 (491.3hrs, 157 streams, 6,798 avg)
>Oct: 3,446,635 (507hrs, 159 streams, 6,798 avg)
>Nov: 2,728,747 (478.1hrs, 132 streams, 5,707 avg)
>Dec: 2,318,190 (375.4hrs, 121 streams, 6,175 avg)

>total: 41,951,507

Nijisanji EN 32 members
>Jan: 3,174,294 (1,438.6hrs, 396 streams)
>Feb: 3,972,676 (1264.1hrs, 336 streams , 3,143 avg)
>Mar: 6,283,717 (1892.4hrs, 514 streams, 3,320 avg)
>Apr: 6,449,716 (1,983.9hrs, 503 streams, 3,251 avg)
>May: 5,661,308 (1,461.6hrs, 423 streams, 3,873 avg)
>Jun: 5,873,002
>Jul: 6,285,678
>Aug: 7,022,216 (1,935.1hrs, 585 streams, 3,629 avg)
>Sep: 5,285,293 (1,995.7hrs, 554 streams, 2,648 avg)
>Oct: 4,916,112 (2,106.3hrs, 519 streams, 2,334 avg)
>Nov: 3,695,275 (1,555.6hrs, 455 streams, 2,375 avg)
>Dec: 5,900,283 (2,141.2hrs, 633 streams, 2,756 avg)

>total: 64,519,570

>>41100260
Selen got more viewers on her outfit than Enna

>>41100200
>graduate everyone except this lazy shark who never stream and can't even be bothered to tweet
Cumkeks are pathetic

>>41100223
Pic related.

>>41100139
There's not much to talk about Elira for most of her streams because it's usually ep 15 of some JRPG game.
She's also not the collaber that Pomu is.
That being said, I'll rank them as Selen > Enna > Pomu/Elira.

>>41100300
hambeast

>>41099952
what does the * supposed to mean?

* FINAL 24HRS VOD TALLY FOR 01/14/2023 *
(View growth after 1 hour at end of each line)
>525,982 Elira Pendora (ANYCOLOR) (4425.7%)
>513,387 Usada Pekora (COVER) (124.2%)
>365,096 Inugami Korone (COVER) (33.5%)
>304,912 Houshou Marine (COVER) (316.9%)
>262,338 Kuzuha (ANYCOLOR) (75.5%)
>213,796 Hololive VTuber Group (COVER) (60.7%)
>202,279 IRyS (COVER) (455.0%)
>191,591 Oozora Subaru (COVER) (70.9%)
>186,349 Nekota Tsuna (Brave Group) (37.9%)
>186,176 Yashiro Kizuku (ANYCOLOR) (123.3%)
>185,428 Shibuya HAL (Neo-Porte) (38.0%)
>179,790 Fuwa Minato (ANYCOLOR) (69.9%)
>172,690 Hakui Koyori (COVER) (72.8%)
>170,659 Sakura Miko (COVER) (93.0%)
>170,262 Shirogane Noel (COVER) (26.6%)
>167,162 Shirogane Noel (COVER) (90.5%)
>166,136 Elu the Elf (ANYCOLOR) (63.3%)

>>41100223
Why are Koreans obsessed with botting?

>>41100268
Magged tourist

>>41100212
>>41100300
one got the 720p and the other one got the 240p...

The Current Waiting List for nijisanji after lazulight confirmed 3d debut

2/16/20 - Shellin Burgundy*
3/7/20 - Amemori Sayo* (12/10/21)
4/1/20 - Kuroi Shiba
4/12/20 - Hayama Marin*
6/23/20 - Hana Macchia* (10/24/22, 12/16/22)
2/10/21 - Seto Miyako
5/1/21 - Gilzaren III*
6/5/21 - Asahina Akane*
6/24/21 - Azuchi Momo
7/24/21 - Lauren Iroas
7/28/21 - Petra Gurin
8/5/21 - Asuka Hina
8/6/21 - Selen Tatsuki
8/30/21 - Rosemi Lovelock
11/14/21 - Nina Kosaka
12/9/21 - Millie Parfait
12/30/21 - Vox Akuma
12/31/21 - Mysta Rias
1/1/22 - Enna Alouette
1/8/22 - Shu Yamino
1/8/22 - Ike Eveland
1/9/22 - Luca Kaneshiro
1/9/22 - Reimu Endou
1/21/22 - Siska Leontyne
3/5/22 - Alban Knox
3/10/22 - Sonny Brisko
3/11/22 - Harusaki Air
3/12/22 - Uki Violeta
3/12/22 - Taka Radjiman
3/21/22 - Mika Melatika
3/21/22 - Fulgur Ovid
4/12/22 - Ponto Nei
5/10/22 - Umise Yotsuha
5/24/22 - Hyakumantenbara Salome
6/7/22 - Yang Nari
6/27/22 - Min Suha
7/18/22 - Watanari Hibari
7/18/22 - Shikinagi Akira
7/20/22 - Seraph Dazzlegarden
7/23/22 - Amagase Muyu
7/24/22 - Scarle Yonaguni
7/24/22 - Ren Zotto
7/24/22 - Aster Arcadia
7/25/22 - Maria Marionette
7/25/22 - Kyo Kaneko
7/25/22 - Aia Amare
7/27/22 - Seffyna
8/13/22 - Fura Kanato
8/27/22 - ZEA Cornelia
10/17/22 - Bonnivier Pranaja
12/11/22 - Hex Haywire
12/15/22 - Meloco Kyoran
12/16/22 - Ver Vermillion
12/25/22 - Doppio Dropscythe
12/27/22 - Zaion Lanza
12/30/22 - Kotoka Torahime

* refers to members who already have 3D but still didnt have a 3D debut

>>41100410
they live in canada, they got that spike because they are superior

>>41100395
It’s a Z peak

>>41100478
Call me crazy, but I think NijiEN is going to go with debut order for their 3D debuts.
The "race to 100k" doesn't really apply anymore when most of them get there within a few days after debut.
It's easier just to go by debut order and do them in batches of waves.

>>41100160
Yes, we reached never seen before heights for HoloEN.

>>41100160
Worst than their last one

>>41100248
I resent that you call me a sapling because it couldn't be further from the truth. Unlike saplings, I actually have self respect and don't support people who do not give a shit about me. I do not watch people who pretend that they care just to get money to go on trips where she just ignores the fans who even got her there. Kiara? Loves her fans. Bae? Loves her fans. IRyS? Loves her fans. You know how I know? They actually keep in touch and don't pretend to be something they're not. They make sure to tweet and give updates even through their own vacations. They don't repeatedly lie about streaming a day and then not show up.

Fauna though? Comes back from Japan, streams, tummy horts, streams, tummy horts all the while cancelling those streams last minute because she just doesn't fucking care. But as I said, I have enough self respect to see the forest for the trees and know she's just a dirty snake who doesn't care about anyone but herself even when she tries to be GFE-lite.

>homo karaoke
>2.2k
bros?

>>41099985
Bae isn't cunny so whatever theory you made up ended there.

>>41100686
Didn't read that sapling but I miss Fauna too

>>41100632
200k ccv?

Now that global is conquered by homobeggars maybe we should prepare a list for exodus for the innocent souls left behind?

1. HoloJP - the holygrail but only who works for it can get it
2. Production Kawaii - for people who are looking for GFE, with great singers like Oceane and Miryu, and Nene who has good ASMR
Aletta is the only NTR chuuba (as of now)
3. Phase Connect - For NAfags who like pick me chuuba with political takes that is relevant to NA and NA only.
4. NijiEN - why not as this point?

Feel free to recommend some indie that you like. There was a girl with a good voice who collabed with Pippa long ago, but I forgot her name, probably a good choice?

>>41100686
This, it's hilarious to see saplings claim that fauna cares about them. Same with hoomans. Fauna and Mumei clearly do not give a shit about their fans.

>>41100686
Least schizo clockcuck

>>41100751
>PLEASE WATCH ME, I'M BARELY PAYING MY RENT
t. seething 3view

What drives a man to write paragraphs about the thing he hates.

>>41100751
If you ever liked Hololive you do will not have interest in PC or NijiEN

>>41100826
>he hates
dyrbi

>>41100751
Take your meds, loser

>>41100814
This list exists only because there are people that are allergic to Japanese as a language.

>>41100739
... almost. very similar number.

>>41100826
spite and scorn

>>41100861
Why piss and shit himself in a thread (He goes to /hlgg/ too) that likes her then

>>41100751
Yumemi Rurumi of Heavenrend seems like a cool girl

>>41100846
I don't understand people that like hololive but refuse to learn Japanese.

>>41100917
To hear all the good things people say about her in defence

>>41100861
>>41100724
Drink bleach

>>41099488
Any1 have a screen shot of niji said "salome 10k sub is better than 40k"
Thank you

>>41100685
HoloENs behave like Nijisanji so their audience behave like Nijisanji too.

JWU
How was the Tempus collab?

>>41100926
because it's a dogshit language and you can't expect people to study Japanese for 2 years just to watch an anime streamer they might not even be interested anymore by that time

>>41100846
Nah it's fine to like different things

>>41100989
>not a new IP

>>41100990
In other words, they are stupid

>>41100977
If their audience behaves like NijiEN's, Axel would be at 20k right now because it's a karaoke.

>>41100926
>learning a dying language that only a tiny bit of the world (aka ONLY JAPAN) uses just to watch anime streamers
Anon?

>>41100685
Really makes you wonder who is behind all the "Axel is totally an amazing singer" posts when no one watches him sing.

>>41100926
>why do people refuse to study one of the hardest and most useless languages in the world that will die soon and is irrelevant outside a single country instead of doing something productive with your life

>>41100926
Simple, Japanese is a useless language

>>41101017
yes, i don't want to learn japanese but i still watch them and nothing will change that

>>41101017
Even if I knew Japanese I don't think I'd ever get Japanese humor

>>41100990
I don't "study" Japanese. I learn it on the fly by watching anime and HoloJP. It is an easy language to learn, probably easier than English and Spanish. Ironic for people who think it is a dogshit language while watching Hololive, or vtubers in general.

>>41101054
>that will die soon
lol
lmao

>>41101007
if someone leaves Hololive because he didn't like the direction they are going because of anything involving homos, homo collabs or the "Nijification" of Hololive, why would they watch Niji? PC is more NijiLite
if anything those people should go to watch Kawaii or go back to SoL anime

>>41101051
Axel is a good cover singer, but he's not a good live singer.
It's been 6 months, everyone knows this now.

>>41095315
Just posting this since the Sapkek I pinged for clarification still hasn't responded. Frog in your throat buddy?

>>41100685
Kronii bots doko

>>41101031
Learning anything, specifically a language is good for the brain. Which makes it good for the body. Which makes it good for the soul.
The girls in the branch are objectively special and legitimately more interesting than any woman you will meet in your life, let's not cope about that.
Anon, if you like Hololive and aren't learning Japanese you're probably haven't improved in life like everyone else has.

>>41101125
Anon a good chunk of their words are literally english loan words and you have even old people complaining about how people have been using "yabai" as a catch all term

>>41101022
Nowadays niji's won't get over 20k maybe the amazing singer like Ike would but not Vox.

>>41101051
Same with ratfag's claims that bae is the best singer in EN.

>>41101132
Because if you go into it with different expectations some of them are fine streamers.

A Kronie unironically botted it btw

>>41101133
>It's been 6 months, everyone knows this now.
Literally never heard them speak, nevermind sing.
You're not an unironic faggot, are you?

>>41101133
He is a good live singer the problem is that he doesn't practice for these karaoke streams. He doesn't have the songs memorized and when you are reading the lyrics on a screen without knowing them you aren't going to nail the flow of the song. That is also why IRyS sounds so clean and good when she does karaoke since she won't perform something unless she has practiced it ahead of time.

>>41101230
no one believes you

>>41101054
>instead of doing something productive with your life
Like posting in /#/?

>>41101167
>old people complaining about how people have been using "yabai" as a catch all term
Just like oh shit, real shit?, good shit, that is the shit, shitty weather, etc right?

>>41101178
Mysta got 30k for Christmas and Sonny got 19k last week (in a sea of 1-2k peaks lol), but yeah fair enough.
It's closer to 15k now on average.

>>41101252
Pick a faggot I'll show you my watch history

>>41101117
>>41101117
>katakana
>hiragana
>kanji
nty

>>41101167
Anon, stop watching Dogen.

>>41101132
My back up is literally just Touhou. The Chinese got my back on this one, they also love Touhou

>>41101316
Written language is just a mixture of squiggly and straight lines, you're not a retard anon right?

>>41101230
>Literally never heard them speak, nevermind sing.
Great. Keep talking about shit you know nothing about

I watch streams, so already better than you, faggot.

>>41101241
I think that's why irys's karaoke don't do it for me. I find slight flaws and twists on songs during karaokes endearing. IRyS just sounds like she's recording in a studio

>>41101316
I learn katakana and hiragana through playing games in JP, while I know kanji since I was 0 year old. It is really not that hard. You can master it just by watching clips and anime for 6 months while enjoying the content. No need to go to a class or anything.

>>41101365
>Keep talking about shit you know nothing about
Give an example of me doing that.
Also don't write at me like you're gay, it's annoying.

>>41101422
>0 year old

>>41101448
Yeah, when I was still a sperm and an egg.

>>41101230
>Proud of being ignorant
Explains the decline of quality in this thread

>>41101482
>If you aren't a faggot you're ignorant

>>41101482
>watching homos
>quality

Does anyone have salami copypaste of nijifag saying her declining is good for riku and niji

>>41101519
Go archive dive yourself or post your request on /wsr/.

>>41101241
He's better at karaokes than he was around the time of his debut, but his voice dying halfway through the song didn't leave the best impression to tourists.

Do any Niji and Holo share a mom?

>>41101316
If you struggle on kana for more than a day of rote memorization you probably shouldn't learn another language because your memory is bricked

>>41101482
Watching homofaggots is a sign of quality nowadays LMAO

>>41100751
>Production Kawaii
>Phase Connect
Leaving NijiEN out for a second even though I hate them. This isn't your fucking small corpo hugbox. This is the numbers thread and everybody from those corpos (even Pippa) get what we could consider shit numbers. Pippa's stream last night that you were all jerking off over didn't even make the EN Gold tally for example. Get out of here until one of them has a median peak of at least 5k.

>production kawaii

Do anons here not know about production ntr?

>>41101482
We watch charts here not homos. Don't be a faggot.

>>41101600
Not that retard, but I'm going to continue posting about my wives

>>41101054
>doing something productive with your life
like watching vtubers? lmao

So, How was the homo collab ?

>>41101482
The only male singer I listen to are Freddie Mercury, Elvis Presley and early MJ

>>41101579
From the top of my head Koyori, Kanata, Okayu, Mio, Flare, Ollie, Fauna (just in)

>>41101630
it's one girl and she is forever branded, the others are fine

>>41101630
I watched the clip. It is a nothing burger. Compare to the HoloProEN collab we had today it is like the difference of a mountain and a mole hill.

>>41101688
wrong thread faggot

>>41101704
Funnily enough she's the most successful of Gen 3

>>41101630
one girl is not a whole company retard.
just like ouro tranni didnt represent hololive

>>41101750
Oceane is in Gen 3

>>41101744
Post memberships

Partial merch sales for Risu's bday merch. Initial stocks were taken around 40 minutes after release so the actual value should be much larger as a large amount of purchases happens in the first few minutes.

Birthday Merch Set 163 $100.00 $16,300.00
Risu Study Time - Rubber Mat 63 $24.00 $1,512.00
Precious Nut-Holder - Acrylic Smartphone Stand 18 $20.00 $360.00
Your #1 Favorite - Cushion 68 $56.00 $3,808.00
$21,980.00

>>41101778
Aletta is blowing past Oceane in subs recently

>>41101563
Do tourists even care about quality of karaokes? IRyS karaokes are incredibly high quality but look like they're capped at 14-15k without any special buffs and often peak at around 12k.
On the other hand you have people like kronii and mumei that goof around and get similar if not better karaoke numbers

>>41101704
The same goes for holo when only 2 or 3 are affected, i say its worst for production ntr because it is fan and streamer relationship.

>>41101804
>quality of karaokes
Karaoke quality is measured in entertainment.
Anyone that treats Karaoke seriously, has never done Karaoke.

>>41101801
she is just farming yt shorts, in ccv Oceane is still ahead

I predicted 20k for the collab btw. To the people who watch tempus, which is more 'kino', the 4 man collabs between the original boys, or the mori/kronii/vesper/magni combo? Why is there a such a vast ccv discrepancy between the two?

>>41101849
I think burgers literally boo people during Karaoke nights sometimes but they're the only exception

>>41101849
So then nijiEN karaokes are 20x more entertaining than tempus?

We lost right? I don't know how a bunch of 3-5k shitters pulled a 22k but it's gonna be used by EN management to shill their faggots harder than ever.

>>41101878
They've all been posting a shitton of polls and community posts. I wonder if there's a reason behind it

>>41101695
Zeta's the same as Yorumi Rena I think

>>41101908
bots

>>41101903
I wouldn't try to mathematically calculate how entertaining stuff is

>>41101884
kronii troon army from discord is shilling them hard to own le ebil incels

Okay nvm, anons here didn't actually kow about this kek.

>>41101778
About that...

Ina will be the first 10k median in a while for EN this month

>>41101849
But bae has entertaining karaokes and averages only like 10-11k

>>41101884
There’s a certain group of people who only show up for male-female collab to “support” it

>>41101804
>Do tourists even care about quality of karaokes?
It makes some difference (it's not a coincidence that Ame and Fauna's karaoke numbers are lower than the other girls), but the bigger factor is still how much a tourist draw the singer has.
NijiEN (and Gura) has a massive karaoke audience to draw from, HoloEN has a decent sized one, and StarsEN have a small one.
Astel is one of the best singers in HoloPro and his karaokes barely get 2k.

>>41101908
it actually isn't that good, because of the end of the day you want viewers who buy your memberships and merch and tune in for your normal stream for ad revenue
collabs are literally the "getting payed in exposure" meme

>>41100771
Mumei does, Fauna doesn't

>>41101903
Tempus this, Tempus that. Anon, stop letting Tempus control your life.

Wanna take bet on if Pekora will stream today?

>>41101884
You're assuming the audience is all StarsEN viewers when most of them are HoloEN viewers. The StarsEN box is like 8k.
Should be asking why more HoloEN fans are watching this collab than a collab with 4 girls.

>>41102011
That seems great for her
I was just saying that hearing good singing isn't necessarily fun, wasn't a numbers thing

>>41102132
starved for new interactions sine HoloEN refuses to put out EN3.

Were there any pictures of Anime Impulse showing the enormous amount of NijiEN fans?

>>41102037
If mumei cared she would've quit college a year ago for good and actually stream with constant delays and guerillas. Too bad she sees hololive as a cashcow.

And here is why Mumei reclined in oblivion. It's obvious that Kromei was a huge factor in her virality exactly like Kronii is now Vesper's bitch and you have 22k people showing out of thin air for them and then vanish.
Congrats to Kronii for killing both her career and Moom's over some old reclining boomer.

>>41101908
>I don't know how a bunch of 3-5k shitters pulled a 22k
It's probably the kind of viewers who will watch the collab, right? You can't just predict collab numbers by adding up the numbers the participants usually get in solo streams. The people tuning in to this collab won't bother watching the individuals do boring (in their view) stuff like zatsus and obscure indie games. Meanwhile a more gachi friendly girl will have a more dedicated audience of 6-10k people who will tune in to watch her talk about her life or play some random game by herself.

>>41101985
that desperation in this is saddening. It's over for women ironically.

>>41102132
Use chat logs to prove the overlap in viewership

>>41100014
I would still bet on 40k+ because some Japanese weren't aware the debut was 10:00 instead of the usual 21:00 slot for Elira's debut and missed it.

>>41101908
>We
t. Axel.
>>41099732
>>41100223
>>41100364
Gotta love that you tourists always forget where you are.

>>41102199
I've been saying for a while that Moom's recline was collateral damage from Kronii's menhera outburst

>>41102209
the*

>>41100300
did she eat all his pixels? why is he so fucking blurry here?

>>41102132
There honestly nothing else, Cover have successfully conditioned the fan to watch these collabs simply by depriving them of contents, it’s just natural
Pekora number was so good the past few days simply because other First Army is on break and no other big collab going on

>>41099833
How long until they reach the point of no return? Surely they are nearing the point that they can't handle this many people i mean they are already at the point but every debut makes it more bad they will need to have a graduation relay at some point

>>41102201
If Kronii plays Geoguesser and doesn't get overlapped to hell, she's probably going to beat Mumei and Irys.
She's been playing shitty indie/puzzle games for so long that people forgot she's the only Councilrys girl who managed to get 10k RE streams recently.

>>41102322
bots

>>41102276
>by depriving them of contents
Just tell your lazy whores to stream. It's not that difficult.

>>41102227
I wish Anon, just sick of this bullshit.
Sick of these whores and their shitty homo leeches. When you think they died for good here is a random bullshit 22k stream.

>>41102322
dyrbi
She would never play it because she knows she would get slagged for the shit numbers she will get

>>41101985
what in the actual fuck

>>41102322
Probably. IRyS's performance was especially disappointing on geogussr because she got a fauna funnel on top of coming off an outfit buff. Half of her chat was also JOPs.
I really expected 10k from IRyS that stream.

>>41102322
bip bop we are kronies

>>41102035
>memberships
>merch
No numbers for either of these
> tune in for your normal stream for ad revenue
Kronii's recent VODs are doing well and Mori's are not too bad considering her CCV. This will be a fat VOD for Mori anyways.

>>41101790
FLOP

>>41102432
Fat and Mori in the same sentence always make me laugh

>>41102376
>she knows she would get slagged for the shit numbers she will get
Yeah, Kronii coming hot off the heels of buff games like "The Pedestrian", "A little to the left" and "Sakuna" is worried about getting disappointing numbers.

>>41102285
Didnt they lose 12 last year? Well they just got replaced

>>41101985
I guess this makes NijiEN no longer the cuckoldry capital lmao

>>41101790
>dont stream
>collab with males
>shit merch sales

>>41101985
uhh, kawaii bros???

>>41102523
On a buff game? Definitely.
Sick of faggots pretending the girls don't care about numbers when it's as simple as it is to see.

>>41102523
Her numbers those streams were saved by funnels. Mumei and IRyS constantly give her gigantic funnels. Kinda wish those 2 would stream long enough to outlast her for once.

>>41101985
That's why drinking stream is too risky

>>41101908
We won though?
A hololive EN 4 man collab beat an almost entire branch collab for nijisanji

>>41102586
>funnels from Mumei and Irys
>Kinda wish those 2 would stream long enough to outlast her for once.
>Irys who does fucking 5 hour streams
You can look at her recent streams, dumbass.

>>41101985
sava and aletta is for cucks
watch nene for prime GFE

>>41101985
Did she get the money?
Does she know that if she has a baby with the guy, the money is basically his again?

>>41102677
>hololive EN collab

>>41102586
>>41102685
>Mumei funnel
Kronii literally ended minutes after

>>41101985
>Moving to Norway
>With a guy who unironically thinks the US is bad compared to eur*pe
lol
lmao

>>41102704
This is /#/ not /unicorn/ whoever gets the most numbers wins

>>41102685
>5k without a funnel
Anon? You just proved my point. She gets dogshit numbers when not getting funneled.

>>41102685
Kronii doesn't get bad numbers for the shit content she choeses and the fact that she puts up her waiting room like an hour before.

>>41102677
>hololive EN
Kek the absolute state of this thread

>>41102738
From my WoW days I remember a lot of dudes going to Europe for some fat nerd chick.
They were always the most miserable guys

>>41101985
Wow, what a wild fucking ride.

>>41102736
Again. Dogshit numbers without getting a funnel.

>>41101985
NTR production

>>41102771
>Her numbers those streams were saved by funnels.
>Doesn't get funneled
Nice backtrack, nigger.
> She gets dogshit numbers when not getting funneled.
You wanna see what numbers Irys and Mumei get if they play debuff games when overlapped?

>>41101985
How is this the first time I'm seeing this? I thought this thread was /news/ and /drama/

>arguing with the post about funnels that misunderstood the argument to begin with
>ignore the proper response

>>41102846
NTA but I mean ...
Post it, I can't open vrabi atm and you prob on the site already
Tho I can't remember what's tue last "debuff" game they plays desu, since it's always been tagged with some kind of buff to compensate

Kronii used to get fucking 9-10k on Powerwash Simulator, with easy 12-14k whenever she played something slightly buff like MC. She was always the star of Council and the main factor of Mumei's popularity and she always decided to debuff herself with breaks and shit games.
She isn't doing anything different now regarding her solo content, she can still pull some numbers but her recline is is pretty undeniable.
She lost 3-4k core viewers after the homogate.
She's pretty much the Gira of council.

>>41102846
Yes? IRyS and Mumei also get 5k under overlap. There's no difference. IRyS had that one exception with the drawing stream where she performed poorly but that's it. Not sure why you're talking about mumei when it's about kronii.

>>41101985
Someone to borrow a million $ I'd like to buy myself a vtuber

>>41101985
NGL, reading this shit made me a little bit depressed.

Ngl seeing all the Holos slowly losing steam after years of being in Hololive make me sad. It’s also make the fact people like Pekora who can still keep up a regular schedule all the more impressive

>>41101985
To the catalog!

>>41102981
be entertaining and no males is hard to follow

>>41102974
Why? It's two retards having sex, it's nothing new.
If the vtubers aren't HoloJP, they're nothing special

>>41102846
Not sure what you're getting at here. They all get shit numbers under overlap. Mumei has stinkers around 5k from time to time when she streams debuff and Kronii has a multitude of gaming streams around the 4.5k mark.

So I'm supposed to believe that the faggot saying unicorns lost and bragging about a 20k stream is a completely different person from the anon whos randomly deciding to shit on IRyS, Mumei, and Fauna now that said Homo stream is over?

>>41102738
>the US is bad compared to Europe
This is absolutely true. The only reason why someone would want to live in the US is the high average salary. Quality of life is objectively worse and ever single statistic will tell you that.

>Still barely 3k on an unarch karaoke
20k collab btw
Super popular

>>41102930
You can blame homogate all you want but it's more about consistency. She takes tons of breaks and plays terrible games, just like Ame and Mumei. If they actually try to choose good content and stream consistently they get get better numbers. Kronii and Ame had a higher median than IRyS last month, when she just got a fucking redesign.

Bets that T-chan is the only person on PR and market research duties on EN side?

>>41103078
Yes I'm not sure how I can prove it to you being one of the people you're talking about

>>41102974
Both are happy, she is now rich, and he is not lonely

>>41103058
>>41102956
The point is basically this >>41102784 and just saying her numbers were not "saved by funnels" because she didn't get any funnels. The overlapping streams ended at the same time.

>>41103101
Shut up indog, every European would rather be an American

>>41102240
you shouldn't keep relying on other people for numbers. if Kronii's outburst affected her that much, then I don't think those are her core viewers to begin with

>>41103103
Lost Reddit favor by being /here/ and /mans/ can only do so much

>>41103103
>It's actually archived
Sana and Gura were also from the same branch. Just because people watch one person doesn't mean they have to watch another.

>>41103103
Anon? Your reading reps?

> Tempiss and male talent in general are not allowed to watch the JP girls or invoke their names without pre approval
Holox is going to be doing live coverage of Holofes whos going to be doing a live reaction? It's supposed to be the newest batch of girls.

>>41103248
>These are the victories sisters take pride in

>>41103033
Didn't kawaii supposed to be unicorn friendly? Granted I only know Nene and Ocean

>>41103114
Again, same as fucking usual then. Kronii always played debuff shit and went on breaks ever other week, it's the reason why Mumei became the star of Council for a while despite Kronii raping her in overlaps. It's weird that her lack of consistency decided to bite her in the ass only now.
And you brought IRyS to talk about consistency forgetting that she has throat issues every other week, just to return and do a 8 hours stream with 5 hours of SC readings.

When did Tempus replace NijiEN as the second most successful group?

>>41103203
Because they weren't her core viewers. Mumei's current numbers are her core viewers, 5-6k floor for gaming streams under overlap and slightly below that for really debuff content.

>>41102930
Everyone in EN has reclined, some more than others, but the big difference between powerwash sim and the games she's playing now is she doesn't fucking talk when she plays puzzle games. It's literally 70% dead air with the occasional Kronii noise.

There's also the fact that if you stream boring content for weeks and weeks on end and then disappear for weeks with no real explanations, people stop watching you. Surprising, I know.

People love to attribute the bad numbers from some ENs to the fucking homos and it's laughable, because Mumei has one of the biggest reclines of all and she won't even talk about them. Look what happened to the people getting shit numbers.
Mumei
>Inconsistent streaming due to school, choosing poor content (no one ever watched her for games)
Kronii
>Constant breaks for whatever reason (moving, tooth shit, cat died, w/e)
>Poor content choices with most of her games being indie shit
Mori
>Started focusing on UMG shit and her "side project" with con appearances cutting back on her streams and making her super flakey, maybe pissing off fans in the process

Imagine being an ENcuck

>>41103327
Well maybe but who cares, if they're not HoloJP they're regular people.

>>41103350
>Buff content
>Only 3k
Fuck off Tempissfag

They are both massive failures, one is just crashing and burning slower than the other.

>>41099104
Let's revive Kronmei!

>>41102981
>all the Holos slowly losing steam after years of being in Hololive
who? most of JP are still really consistent. don't say Aqua/Shion/Ayame, they've been like this for a while now.

>>41103350
it all went downhill for nijisanji when they were forced to release the ill-fated iluna gen

>>41103289
It's okay to be ESL, anonchama.

>>41103327
you can get the same stream-cancelling, tummy hort, throat hort, pregnancy hort behavior from Oceane then too, forma de SEA accent

This is relevant. Ollie talking about expectations for growth from high up and it even being put into their contract.

https://streamable.com/o90u8q

>>41103409
Wasnae me doll

>>41099993
She was going to join minecraft collab with Kiara right before the break

>>41103350
Better question would be when is Hex gonna be a 3view?

>>41103350
They are both massive failures, one is just crashing and burning slower than the other.

>>41103350
you guys think aster regrets not joining tempus now?

>>41103356
that begs the question, what is decline? is it the dropping in the core audience or casual viewers simply stop watching? which one is more impactful?

>>41103359
>Mumei
The weird thing with Mumei is she acts cuter on stream now and appeals more to gachis than before, which should be a recipe for incline but her SCs haven't increased much either.
>Mori
Carrying 2 long games that are just going to keep losing viewers over time and not having a consistent timeslot for them was a recipe for disaster.
I also think people are just kinda tired of Mori atm. Oversaturation is a thing.

>>41103505
Regardless of reasons a streamers numbers should always be going up, or they're doing it wrong.
More people are getting into the habit of watching streamers every day, there's no excuses for dropping CCV

>>41103350
>NijiEN debut new talents
>reclined instead
Niji management so incompetent jesus

>>41103358
And yet here you have Fauna and IRyS who managed to somewhat incline after the homogate. Probably the reason why beggars nonstop shit on them.
Gura despite everything still held her usual solo numbers when streaming too, and I know Gura is Gura but you'd expect at least a bit of recline from miss inconsistency.
I keep telling you, I used to watch Kronii and her content didn't change a single bit, neither her streaming habits.

>>41103528
The whole point is the exact same reason Fauna was near the bottom of Council and is now at the top. Just be fucking consistent and minimize shit content. You're streaming for your fans, it's cool to play games you like, but if it's fucking terrible for streams try to limit it.

>>41103492
I'm very glad Aster didn't get into Tempus. Baffling how this guy has 100k more subs than Vesper but can't even get 1k without a raid.

>>41103443
>Cover isn't a black company that forces the girls to get numbers
What now, Cover shills?

>>41102981
It's more like half of HoloEN did something to actively chase chunks of their fanbase away, whether it's Ameway/Bae being brutally inconsistent, or Calli/Kronii managing to chase everyone except her schizos out, or Sana graduating and leaving Sanalites otherwise stranded. Mumei got shot by the algo, Gura died, and Ina un-dying...temporarily gave her numbers on par with freshly-culled 2020, with all signs showing full Stable Octopus Destination even after the return buff expires? Or Fauna basically being a flatline since shortly after the debut buff? Even Kiara's technically held most of her floor for the last year.

...is the truth unironically just
>be HoloEN
>don't actively hate your fanbase
>stream in mostly the same timeslot, regardless of the number of streams you actually do

What the fuck are kronii and mumei doing? Here are some of their game choices in the past 3-4 months
Planet coaster
Cats organised neatly
Overwatch 2
Multiple cover after parties
Guerilla zatsus under overlap
Settlement survival
We were here forever
Crosswords
Her name was fire
Sakuna
The pedestrians
Multiple sc readings
Epic seven
Multiple Anti chamber streams
Toem
The unfinished swan
Multiple Kirby streams
Katamari
The last campfire

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK ARE THESE 2 DOING??

>>41103595
Must be bots

>>41103358
>Everyone in EN has reclined
Not the good ones

>All sub-5k shitters with the exception of Kronii
>22k ccv
Where the fuck did all these tourists come from? Surely we’re not turning into niji now right?

>>41103350
>EN "Gen" and "Wave" power rankings

1. Myth

- MASSIVE POWER GAP -

2. Luxiem
3. CouncilRyS

- MASSIVE POWER GAP -

4. Noctyx
5. Tempus

- MASSIVE POWER GAP -

6. Obsydia
7. Ethyria
8. Lazulight
9. Xsoliel
10. iLuna

>>41103567
IRyS just chooses better content, won't stream long series, avoids overlap and if she is overlapped generally streams long enough to receive funnels. Fauna has avoided overlap and is consistent. These are things that Kronii and Mumei don't do.

so wait, when did the new nijiJP announcement was released? why aren't there a lot of discussion about it on the last threaD with more people talking about the homocollab?

>>41103662
This

>>41103646
>1. Myth
>
>- MASSIVE POWER GAP -
>
>3. CouncilRyS
Mythkek, dyrbi

>>41103562
That's literally what happened with Tempiss too, with Fempoop having their CCV slashed in half after just 6 fucking months.
Or homos getting 5k in a full gen collab after a new Gen debut and then 22k at random when collabing with the girls.
They are literally glorified NijiENs and Kronii is their Luxiem.

>>41103646
I thought Council is above niji males?

>>41099835
No Homo Holo because why would they bother when Gura has a offcollab with Vox and Mysta next week!

>>41103707
Council is above myth

>>41103567
>Fauna
Benefitted greatly from Ina's absence and consistency with streams. Very clearly has her shit together behind the scenes and it reflects on her streams being more entertaining because she's not dead tired.

>Gura despite everything still held her usual solo numbers when streaming too, and I know Gura is Gura but you'd expect at least a bit of recline from miss inconsistency.
In what world is this Gura's "usual solo numbers"? Not getting 20k when it was during the FIFA world cup was definitely an underperformance.

> I used to watch Kronii and her content didn't change a single bit, neither her streaming habits.
>used to
Check her recent VODs, Kronii forgot how to talk a few months ago and doesn't even try to be entertaining anymore. She's just vibing on stream.

>>41103646
Obsydia deserves to be above Tempisds

>>41103646
Change Myth to Gura and put Myth at whatever the fuck Luxiem is

>>41103707
Council and Luxiem are pretty much exactly equal. I just put Luxiem ahead of them because they tend to peak higher on event streams. The gap between them is really small though.

>>41103662
It's not our fault that mumei and kronii don't give the slightest shit about numbers. It's a shame because we've seen what they can do when trying just a little at their peaks and that was way above anything irys and fauna could ever imagine.

>>41103690
homo discussion is more important

>>41102390
Koyori is stealing her viewers retard!

>>41100160
It got 21k beating every offcollab on an ENs channel from this Japan trip, every SNOT 1 PoV and the NijiEN NKODice tournament

>>41103739
Nice but I don't think NijiEN has enough credentials to be acknowledged by Gura

>>41103770
Nah, Selen is mid, Rosemi is a shitter, and I can't even remember who the 3rd member is, lol.

>>41103789
No but people love to attribute the numbers to whether or not they interact with the homos when it's more about content and consistency.

>>41103567
>her content didn't change a single bit, neither her streaming habits
can confirm
sometimes I really wonder if she really cares about hololive

>>41103789
>was way above anything irys and fauna could ever imagine.
At this rate they're going to absorb the entire HoloEN audience

>>41103567
yeah, kronii content is now lovebomb and then homocollabs.

So, what's going to happen to the new nijiJP debuts? Are they gonna get the salome effect?

>>41103248
>>41103218
>It's archived
Huh. I'm so used to people just being smart enough to only mark the unarchived ones I'd just assumed.

>>41103610
I've seen Kronii do 2 SC reading streams in the same week.
No shit her numbers are awful.
This Monopoly collab was the first time she had anything interesting on her schedule for like 3 weeks.

my wife soon
https://youtu.be/RLPo4FEMrEM

>>41103602
Cover is not acting on it otherwise Uproar and most Homos would be gone. It's just in the contract so they can terminate anyone who intentionally and maliciously tries to tank his numbers.

>>41103831
Reimu

>>41103835
>sometimes I really wonder if she really cares about hololive
She knew literally nothing about it, remember when she thought Ahoy was a One Piece song

>>41103883
Who is Roboco, kek

>>41103831
Finana

>>41103870
Jfc anon, it's Petra lol

>>41103831
Petra.....

>>41099900
The thing is management would rather deploy more homos to combat niji shitter gens as if that was the priority. My guess is they made those decisions at the height of luxiem growth and are too unflexible to change it now when male vtuber bubble more or less already burst.

>>41101985
Delete this

>>41103857
>soon
>19 hours

>>41103789
Why does Fauna and IRyS being successful make so many people seethe? Just face it, they are both popular and have very dedicated fanbases. Fucking hell.

>>41101985
I can't believe pkg manage to outcuck NijiEN

>>41103939
Their success has shit on arguments like "talents are declining because people are going back to work"

>>41103840
There have been 7 debuts after Salome. What do you think?

>>41099942
It's not a secret that they scout talents themselves all the time or that you can get in if you already know a holomem. That's why we fear that homos might bring their indie fangirls, that's a way to fuck over the branch.

>>41104044
>7 debuts after Salome
what the fuck!
that's actually insane now that you put it in perspective

>>41103759
Gura had way worse performing streams Anon, she even used to dip below 9k at some point. Her getting 12-18k during HoloEN's recline, playing shit games and with her dogshit consistency is not bad. Not bad at all.
>Kronii forgot how to talk
Yup, same usual Kronii then. But before she had the excuse of daddy beating her ass at least.
Still pretty impressive that 6k people will watch her play debuff shit while sitting in silence and barely trying. She truly is the biggest wasted potential in the history of HoloEN with a shit fan base of whipped yesmen.

>>41103443
"we signed a contract that says we will try our best to grow"
there. thats the quote. fuck you for making me listen to her for 2+ minutes before it came up

>>41103939
Kronii and Ame had higher median than IRyS last month. Does that make them successful too?

>>41104111
That's only because Kronii and Ame don't interact with the homos.

Is anyone beating Mysta today for cripple gold? It feels unfair for HoloEN these days now that Gura is out of commission.

>>41104105
>Below 9k
What. Gura hasn't had a below 10k peak stream that wasn't a reset/error stream.

>>41104110
you have some very nice numbers there

>>41101908
>implying Yagoo takes numbers into consideration when expanding Homos

>>41103939
They aren't popular at all actually. IRyS especially can barely compete with the trio of debuff queens despite multiple buffs.

>>41103610
Mumei just plays easy shit that she can fit in her day when she doesn't have homework. Like she has even said on stream sometimes that she knows she's not giving the best content and jokes that her viewers should be "proud" of her for dropping Overwatch
Hopefully with her taking a semester off she won't need to rely on these easy games she doesn't have to think too hard for
Kronii is her own can of worms

>>41104044
Iluna, Voltaction, Lolisex. That's 16 people and 3 groups, am I missing something?

>>41101482
I rather be ignorant than gay

>>41104105
Gura dipped to 9k once in her entire career. Her getting multiple 12-16k streams in a row while playing horror games is definitely not "usual Gura performance".

>>41101985
So people think that this "NordSchizo" flew to the US, impregnated her, went back to Norway, and now invited her to live with him for 3 months..?

>>41104110
Yikes, Hololive keeps taking Ls lately

>>41103939
No one is saying that they don't have dedicated fanbases. They definitely have way more dedicated fanbases than say ame or mumei. They however have consistently proven over the past year and a half that they have barely any tourist pull no matter how much they try.

>>41104110
maybe that's why there's no EN3 since EN isn't growing anymore

>>41104216
the only one that flew was the girl

>>41099833
They are accelerating so much that they even increased the number of livers per wave lmao

>>41104286
When did she go to Norway?

>>41104275
Why is there no new HoloJP gen when the JP market is still growing?

>>41104206
mumei should kill herself if she thinks her content the past few months has been okay. Literally just constant mumbling to chat while barely speaking most of the times. And when she does speak it's about fucking school.

I'm over kronii at this point, just want that bitch to graduate

>>41104253
>no matter how much they try.
Where's the FFX stream? Everyone and their mothers want to see the girls cry at emotional moments.
They're not trying to get tourists

>>41104253
I watch all the HoloEN girls, but it always surprises me that Fauna and Irys barely have any 20k+ streams (outside of events like costumes and birthdays).
Even 15k+ streams are rare and this includes collabs.

>>41102898
Actually suprising that whole thing didn't blow up like the other yab they had but the other one did include a niji

>>41103275
Nearly every member that isn't performing that day, same as every year

>>41104110
Sounds like it's targeted towards the morons who like to intentionally filter their audience, unfortunately Ollie is so retarded that she is doing that unintentionally

>>41104326
hoodachi ww@?

>>41104216
Isn't the nordshizo a gura schizo or something? ggg always has like one schizo claiming Gura moving to somewhere scandinavian.
And isn't Sava a brazilian? She lives in US?

>>41104309
Here's the rrat: Hololive grew too fast in 2020 and they're still facing a bottleneck in structure to grow the company while giving the level of support they want to their talents and that's something that takes a while to develop.

Just heard from Magni's member stream that Cover's higher-ups are considering scrapping HoloEN altogether. This is worrying.

>>41104309
Just like with EN cover is still waiting someone from holoX to reach 1M sub before they release new gen.

>>41104318
>Where's the FFX stream?
The numbers will be so bad that when the emotional moments happen, people won't know they're happening.
These are EN viewers we're talking about here.

>>41104381
Sava lives in Florida.
>Isn't the nordshizo a gura schizo or something?
I think you're thinking of Sweden

>>41104390
but for some reason that doesn't apply to the Homos...

>>41104381
>ggg always has like one schizo claiming Gura moving to somewhere scandinavian.
No that's completely unrelated. That's just people trying to make chumbuds mad by cuckposting

>>41104417
Pfft FFX has the most mindshare of any single player game and it is completely linear.
It's a super buff that is completely underutilised.

>>41104417
but these moments are peak in jp, lui had the best peak in danganronpa during the final two hours

>>41104326
hopefully mumei avoids the schizo drawing shit and draws the cute stuff she used to pre holo

>>41103567
Isn’t Fauna down from her peak?
Isn’t IRyS pulling a worse average than pre redesign?

>>41104390
It's not a fucking rrat when that's exactly what's been said in interviews and shit. They hired a ton of people, and are sorting out who's capable long-term and who needs to be tossed at the end of their short-term contracts.
Also, numbers-wise and coverage wise, JP is in a good spot right now, with maybe one more gen MAX if no one else graduates in the forseeable future.

>>41104313
She doesn't she's said as much on stream
But i don't see the mumbling about her personal life changing since she's been doing that more and more over the last several months

>>41104466
It's because Ina is stealing Fauna's viewers

Okay you can argue 6 hours that the homolovers like Kronii and Mori reclining into oblivion is not because of homo collabs, fine.
But it's undeniable that Tempiss did Nothing to slow the recline, nothing at all. They tried to push the whole Holopro bullshit thinking this will benefit HoloEN too but it didn't. The best you can say is that majority of the HoloEN fa base doesn't give a single fucking shit about homos. Like completely indifferent. And that management still fucked up by wasting resources on these shutters instead of releasing EN3 or investing on the girls.
This is completely objective and there is no counter argument.

>>41104458
I mean every HoloJP girl is still getting pretty great numbers with Pokemon #15, when apart from Ina and Fauna, it's been pretty awful for HoloEN after the first stream.
EN and JP audiences have different preferences and behaviours.

>>41104452
>it is completely linear.
That's a crucial part of it being a decent RPG game for streaming, you can pop in at any point and know exactly where they are in the game.

>>41102132
They have separate audiences that showed up for "event" same with random twitter crowd that doesn't oshi anyone and would just show up for events if it's shilled ahead of time like this one. Remember insane numbers for that Kronii sandwich stream and how her regular numbers looked at the time?

>>41104309
Do we really need more JP? They are chugging along just fine
Knowing Cover they probably want to focus on building the homo brand for now. It's the "The girls are big enough to fend for themselves" mentality

>>41104110
That's like a standard contract I don't know where is the problem here?

>>41104105
If by that you mean she had one sub 10k in her career then sure.

>>41103405
Dude, the JP girls have just as many flakes and random tummy hort hiatuses as EN the only difference is there's enough of them to pick up the slack

>>41104554
>Remember insane numbers for that Kronii sandwich stream and how her regular numbers looked at the time?
Yeah it's called "doing a gimmick stream" vs "streaming debuff indie/puzzle games"
And she got only 16k which isn't even that insane considering what she was doing.