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In another timeline, this would've been HoloEn. What changes happen to the three companies affected and the chuuba scene as a whole?

>> No.4107983

>>4107857
Pink Gura?

>> No.4108018

Mori -> Elira, pink cat -> Finana, and we're good to go.

>> No.4108027
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4108027

I can't believe we live in a world where they hired fucking Kiara instead of Pomu

>> No.4108071

>>4108027
Pomu's good in Nijisanji, she's always liked it more than Hololive and she'll be able to help bring the branch towards success.

>> No.4108135

>Coco has been friends with Melody since before VShojo was formed
>Coco was scouting her for HoloEN

>> No.4108812

Thinking about this seriously, I just realized how big of a domino efffect having Nyanners replacing Gura would have for Cover, Nijisanji, and Vshoujo. Despite HoloEn being a huge success as a whole, if it wasnt for Gura's insane explosion of popularity that rocketed her to legitimetely challenge Ai's almost insurmountable (for vtuber standards) subcount, I don't think Nijisanji gets pressured to create an actual EN branch until much later.

>NijiEN doesn't happen until maybe 2022 at the earliest
>Vshoujo isn't as formidable since they're missing one of their main pillars
>No /vt/ since everyone would've disowned HoloEn once Nyanners was confirmed.

And the above doesn't even take into account Nyanners possible influence to the culture of HoloEN as awhole. Its a fucking mindblowing thought to have.

>> No.4108846

>>4107857
Just imagine how much worse global would be in that timeline. Good lord.

>> No.4108947

>>4108027
that's why "hololive = quality" is a meme

>> No.4108967

>>4107857
Replace Pomu for the fish and is more accurate.

>> No.4108978

>>4108027
Kiara= virgin
Pomu= whore
they made the right decision.

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4109017

>>4108978
>Kiara= virgin

>> No.4109132

>>4109017
Kiara is unironically the only virgin in holoEN, besides maybe Ina

>> No.4109136

>>4108978
look i defend Kiara from the fucking eggs but cmon anon

>> No.4109141

>>4108978
I think Pomu would've reigned in her sperg outs since she wouldn't need it to try and garner attention. I honestly believe that if Pomu had the experience that she has currently has right now when she applied to Hololive, she would've taken chicken's place.

>> No.4109249

>>4107857
I'm more angry about you including the Niji whore than I am you including Nyanners. Fuck Nijisanji.

>> No.4109313

>>4109249
>t. never saw Pomu

>> No.4109317

>>4108027
Sadly she wasn't too experienced back when HoloEN auditions were held. She would have had a hard time getting used to things if she got in.
At any rate, she always liked Nijisanji more, so I'm glad that this is the timeline we live in.

>> No.4109335

>>4109132
anon please

>> No.4109352

>>4109313
You are 100% correct. I would never degrade myself by watching Nijisanji.

>> No.4109409

>>4107857
This is the worst trade deal in the history of trade deals. I'd like to amend this. Calliope and Kiara for Pomu and Elira

>> No.4109424

>>4109317
She always liked Niji more and i doubt she wants to be a idol. im happy for her.

>> No.4109429

>>4109352
I'm unironically sorry for you.

>> No.4109434

>>4109352
Pomu's more of a legit /jp/sie than you, 99% likely, and has a powerlevel somewhere between Ina and Kiara's (lived in Japan etc) only with fucking 0 of the bird's annoying voice/personality/complexes. She would have been a great HoloEN no doubt.

>> No.4109443

>>4109409
>Trading the Holo with the most successful musical track record for a couple literal whos
I'm fine with getting rid of Kiara but Calli is a legit super star.

>> No.4109470

>>4109409
Sorry Anon but salaries don't match. You can only take one Niji and one Vshojo.

>> No.4109483

>>4108027
>why
because they were the same shitty quality

>> No.4109509

>>4109434
This isn't /jp/ jackass, who gives a fuck
>>4109317
>>4109424
Yeah, I'm sure she will be thrilled when she is streaming to barely 300 viewers 2 months from now. I'm sure she will be thrilled to be in Nijisanji over Hololive.

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4109528

>>4109132
There are rats in this thread that unironically believe in this.

>> No.4109533

>>4109443
So the consensus of that thread is that swapping Pomu for Kiara is all that's needed
>>4109483
>were
that's it.

>> No.4109582

>>4109509
She has mentioned multiple times herself that she doesn't care about numbers and is happy with comfy low view streams

>> No.4109587

>>4108978
Bro it cannot be discussed here but you are rather wrong about Kiara.

>> No.4109595

>>4109533
>swapping Pomu for Kiara
Nah, I don't even like Kiara and I couldn't do this trade. Once you are tainted by the Niji stink, it doesn't come off. You are tainted by that awful black company forever.

>> No.4109633

>>4109582
That is a cope for anybody who isn't talented enough to draw an audience.

>> No.4109685

>>4107857
>no longer have to worry about orange women or HERfags
>Pomu filters all the ironic weebs and normalfags
Unironically an improvement

>> No.4109706

>>4109582
She'll care when she can't make enough money to make it a full time job.
All the lucrative sponsorships are on the JP side.

>> No.4109719

>>4109595
Eat shit, Luna is fucking great

>> No.4109726

>>4109633
She dosen't have to pander to schizo purityfags and unicorns that's a win in my book

>> No.4109733

>>4109582
Anon that is literal copium

>> No.4109736
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4109736

Kinda wish we had like a trade machine template like pic related. Subcribers would be their salary and their live views would be their game performance. Fuck it! Someone please make a chuuba fantasy league!

>> No.4109739

>>4109685
The only minus is that shitty pink cat. Would have been fine with Gura in her place.

>> No.4109753

>>4109706
Good thing she already has a job then

>> No.4109761

>>4109719
Not to mention Polka is from a black company too (just not niji) and is also quite well-liked.

>> No.4109777

>>4109633
Not always, there's something to be said for having a chat you can actually read and interact with. If you have 20k viewers it's going to be completely impossible to follow. As long as I had a stable income from it I'd say the ideal audience size is 1-2k assuming normal chat speed.

>> No.4109790

>>4109132
>>4108978
Kiara was the town bike of the Idol, Pinup and Cosplay industries for fucking YEARS lmao, imgine beleiving that shit for a second KFPajeets are something else.

>> No.4109806

>>4109739
Hot take, pink cat with her crude humour reigned in by management would have been the most entetaining vtuber in existence

>> No.4109831

>>4108812
This really.

Nyanners is one of the main draws for VShojo - heck, VShojo would have probably never been a thing had it not been for Nyanners.

>> No.4109867

>>4109739
losing gura is a sacrifice I'm willing to make if we also lose herfags and ironic weebs

>> No.4109893

>>4109719
I miss her old character design, Moruru looked fucking awesome.

>> No.4109987

>>4109132
100% Kiara gets gangbanged after every Evangelion wrestling video anon.

>> No.4110127

>>4109831
vsh*jo is literally cope: the "company." They're not even really a company, just an affiliation of twitch shitters who already had viewerbases banding up - mad that they couldn't buy their way into Holo and/or literally do not comprehend why Cover rejected their apps for the obvious kinds of shit people clearly state they hate about them here all the time, so they make their own "company" pretending like they have something meaningful now as an "answer."

They live in their own bubbles and don't comprehend that Twitch's entire audience is only like 2 million viewers vs billions on Youtube. They think copypasta'ing something they saw a few clips for and comm'ing some avatar will instantly make them exactly like a Japanese vtuber and that is all there is to it, no need to learn the whole background of Japanese net culture/etiquitte or any of the history, just be your same lame twitch self behind an avatar and your equally-ignorant viewerbase won't even be able to tell the difference because they don't actually know vtubers either. Not everyone on twitch is that fucking ignorant of the process or approach, some there are trying to import and be like the real deal - but the vsh*jo group in particular aren't like those.

>> No.4110177

>>4110127
>complains about copypasta as he posts a copypasta
rent free

>> No.4110249

>>4110177
>he calls a verbal mogging a copypasta as a cope when one search instantly proves him wrong, hoping nobody notices
Sad.

>> No.4110313

>>4110177
Seethe.

>> No.4111062

>>4107857
>all the Nyaners antis filling Hololive. She would probably be more hated than Mori

>> No.4111091

This thread will end well.

>> No.4111151

>>4111062
everybody knows the only thing that would have been better was swapping Kiara for Pomu, but Pomu wasn't ready back then

>> No.4111294

>>4111151
>everybody
i dont like Kiara just as much as I dont like Pomu

>> No.4111333

>>4111151
I've never actually seen pomu, sell me on her anon.

>> No.4111533

>>4107857
>implying this timeline even remotely feasibly exists
Hate to break it to you but Kiara was as good as hired the moment she applied. You can try to come up with a good reason to not hire someone into HoloEN who speaks both English and Japanese basically fluently and has experience in working as an idol, but you'll definitely come short.
Let's put it this way: supposedly the HoloEN project as it is today crashes and burns. If Kiara applied, I'm decently sure Cover still hires her as either an additional member of the 5th Gen or they form a pseudo-EN group with Kiara, Haachama and Coco.

>> No.4112060

>>4107857
I'm not sure goslings would have survived with both Pomu and Ame

>> No.4112099

>>4111533
Wasn't the rrat that Kiara was actually hired to be a part of Gen 5 but then Polka's roommate became available so they brought her on and asked Kiara if she wanted to be in the newly formed EN group instead?

>> No.4112122

>>4111294
You've never watched her for a moment in your life stop pretending

>> No.4112268

>Pomu and Nyanshit in the same gen
I would drop Hololive altogether.

>> No.4112366

>>4109132
Do yu reelee? Poor girl had a hard past

>> No.4113969

>>4111333
it's just another HERfag, ignore them, don't come to her stream, it's boring

>> No.4114073

>>4112268
kek.

>> No.4114145

>>4109132
Go to >>>/trash/ and ask their Hololive Slutposting thread.

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>>4107857

>> No.4114370

>>4107857
>dreadful bore no-talents with peepeepoopoo jokes
This shit would've tanked. Gura is carrying holoEN so hard with her numbers she gets embarassed when you bring it up.
A collab with all of them would just be filled with single word responses and a lot of dead air.
Nyanners might poke fun or say something explicit and get everyone in trouble.

>> No.4114501

>>4108027
And people here and outside act like cover decisions on that stuff is so amazing. Anya, Kiara, Roboco, Aki, Mel, a bunch of bad decisions.

>>4109509
Holofag butthurt because Pomu isn't on hololive. Cope, faggot.

>> No.4114588

>>4114501
>butthurt
You really think I care about some whore who couldn't make it in the big leagues and had to settle for little league? Nah.

>> No.4114857

>>4107857
Honestly? I don't think /vt/ would exist if EN had a shitty roster like that.

>> No.4115043

>>4114857
It already has a shitty roster though.

>> No.4115109

>>4115043
>It already has a shitty roster
He didn't specify which EN but he was talking about HoloEN which has proven to be a huge success. You are probably talking about NijiEN seeing as you believe the roster is shitty. In that case you would be 100% correct.

>> No.4115114

>>4109132
Kiara fucked more guys than Ina talked to irl.

>> No.4115127
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>>4107857
>Getting pomu in hololive, but inadvertently replacing gura with nyanners
the most catastrophic monkey's paw

>> No.4115133
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4115133

>>4108071
kek

>> No.4115182

In another timeline Hololive and Nijisanji would never have existed? What do you think would have happened to us? To the vtuber scene?

>> No.4115190

Kiara's hymen returns every time she reincarnates from ashes, simple as

>> No.4115199

>>4115133
I said only the truth.

>> No.4115226

>>4107857
In this timeline Mori's friend would never talk to her about the auditions, so she wouldn't be there too
>>4111533
Kiara was supposed to be gen 5, this is only a rrat but a strong one, especially if you do your roommate reps.

>> No.4115352

>>4111333
not him, but pomu is kinda like if ina and nenechi had a daughter that was somehow around the same age as them. also, holy fucking checked

>> No.4115533
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4115533

>>4109352
>I would never degrade myself by watching Nijisanji.

https://youtu.be/Hqt2_16CgW8?t=62

holy shit she was right, kys

>> No.4115578

>>4115226
>Kiara was supposed to be gen 5, this is only a rrat but a strong one
It's a rrat, entirely based off of orca pronouncing "fennec" in the same way as "phoenix"

>> No.4115795

>>4115533
You're about to be crucified for agreeing with a Vwhorejo, but she was right that it matters less who she is and more who she's associated with - people most certainly judge her for being Vshojo.

>> No.4115854

>>4108978
Kiara has had more miles of cock than a chicken slaughterhouse production line.

>> No.4115921

>>4115199
whatever makes you happy

>> No.4115927

>>4115226
Wait, is this rrat supposed to disprove his point or strengthen it? Because if it's true it means that Cover has always been champing at the bit to hire her. She would be the first non-Japanese to be almost hired for a main holo generation.

>> No.4116018

>>4111333
Also not him but if you are a /jp/ oldfag, you'll probably gosling over her real quick, otherwise you either kneel to her powerlevel or gets completely filtered. She is also a saviorfag magnet, so if you're into that, you'll like her too.
About her personality, she's your classic talkative airhead that can get emotional quite easily, and you can feel that she is passionate about what she does. She might be in menhera territory though, sometimes I feel Polka vibes from her but that could be just me.

>> No.4116072

Nyanners in HoloEN would probably have killed /jp/ and /vt/ wouldn't exist.

>> No.4116148

>>4115921
You got any actual arguments here or do you just want to be smugly dismissive until you've epically owned the Nijinigger?

>> No.4116232

>>4111333
A bit of an English Nene but with a Marine-type otaku kick if not beyond hers. Not actually a young ditzy girl like Nene but sort of behaves the same way. Is also a giant Touhou fan - would play on Lunatic back in the day, has actually met ZUN. Went to cons, collects doujinshi etc.

Apparently from her zatsu she must have lived in Japan for a bit because she went to highschool there at some point (with some interesting stories from that). I'm not sure about her Japanese skill as it hasn't really been put to the test yet but I'd guess it's probably Ina-like, maybe not totally fluent like Kiara but can get around a bit in conversation if she's lucky.

As was said, she authentically would have been super cool in EN. I'd have subbed Kiara for her in a heartbeat easily as Pomu has none of the irksome personality quirks/complexes vibes Kiara does fucking whatsoever. I can't easily think of an HoloEN quite like her actually so she would have brought in her own niche.

>> No.4116344

>>4116232
>I can't easily think of an HoloEN quite like her actually so she would have brought in her own niche.
She sounds sort of like Ame from your description?

>> No.4116412 [DELETED] 

>>4116344
If Ame was like 10x harder of an otaku type than her maybe that'd kind of fit. Like Ame she also went through a bunch of rough shit in life actually and anime basically "saved" her as she put it. Really a neat person all around, more than meets the eye.

I cannot really say the same of the other NijiENs so far (Elira seems textbook normalfag in every way, like you pulled some woman in her 20s off the street and put a mic in front of her and Finana is like some kid who barely knows what she's doing but just sounds real cute).

>> No.4116452

>>4116344
If Ame was like 10x harder of an otaku type than she is, maybe that'd kind of fit. Like Ame she also went through a bunch of rough shit in life actually and anime basically "saved" her as she put it. Really a neat person all around, more than meets the eye.

I cannot really say the same of the other NijiENs so far (Elira seems textbook normalfag in every way, like you pulled some woman in her 20s off the street and put a mic in front of her and Finana is like some kid who barely knows what she's doing but just sounds real cute).

>> No.4116453

>>4107857
You could have at least colored their hair you have assed bastard. There's no way they'd debut two blondes and two pinks.

>> No.4116705

>>4115578
This is like 1% of the rrat, and even then you got it wrong
>>4115927
Both. He implied the timeline wouldn't possibly exist, but the trigger for it in the first place isn't about Kiara, but about Polka. If Nobuhime never graduated or took a little longer to graduate, Kiara would be in gen 5 instead as rrats suggested.

>> No.4116779

>>4116148
you arent either giving an argument retardchama, you are just giving your opinion and Im laughing about it, it makes you mad? well thats your problem kid

>> No.4116798

If I had to listen to Nyanners breathy autistic voice and Kiara both I would have dropped EN so fast.

>> No.4116872

>>4107857
Why the fuck would Nyanners join Hololive, just to give her money away to an agency she doesn't need?

>> No.4117078

>>4116018
>>4116232
She sounds pretty cool. Shame she couldn't have signed on with a legit organization. Instead she is destined by fade into obscurity as nobody watches her. Shame really. No, I will not watch her.

>> No.4117186

>>4117078
It would really help if she was a male. Females have a hard time gaining any traction in Manjisanji.

>> No.4117188

>>4108027
Pomu is so precious. I hope the best for her.

>> No.4117210

>>4109132
Impressive. Everything you stated is wrong

>> No.4117225

>>4116779
>it makes you mad? well thats your problem kid
So this is Reddit's idea of how 4channelers talk, huh.

>> No.4117350

>>4108947

>Kiara
>knows three languages
>former idol
>her extrovert energy is needed in a group of introverts
>everybody who interacts with her loves her

>Pomu
>Literal who
>whore
>Literal who
>no talent
>no talent
>Literal who
>sucks
>works for Manjisanji so will be ignored due to not being male
>works for Manjisanji

Yeah, I think cover made the right choice.

>> No.4117724

>>4108978
kfp bros..are we really this pathetic?

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>>4108978
DYRBI?

>> No.4117858

>>4117225
How do you do fellow 4channeler?

>> No.4118046

>>4117350
>annoying whore that even her genmates cringe at her attempts at humor.
>attention whore who has to make every conversation about her
>insecure whore who egosearches herself and despite in the top 10 hololivers still a huge numberfag
Okay

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>>4117350
This is just your daily reminder that the first recorded use of "manjisanji" on this board is less than a week old and it's exclusively 1 or 2 newfags forcing it's use.

>> No.4118191

i just wanted you guys to know I really like Ina

>> No.4119860

>>4109132
There has never been a post more wrong ever posted on this site.

>> No.4120224

The premise of this thread is flawed anyway because let's be real the first EN member to be replaced by someone else (strictly speaking in the audition phase) would've been Ame. I love her content but I still have no idea how she made it in.

>> No.4120293

>>4117350
Since when was Hololive a talent show?

>> No.4120294

too bad we are not in a lilypichu instead of inanis timeline

>> No.4120572

>>4107857
make your own holoEN with current vtubers

>> No.4120800 [DELETED] 

>>4120572
>artemis
>hectatia
>veryneet
>zentreya
>rose (gets killed during her debut stream by robbers)

>> No.4120849

>>4120294
in an alternate timeline, pokimane's vtubing attempt would have been received well enough for offlinetv to turn into the west's forefront vtubing company

>> No.4120911

>>4107857
HER would somehow find the way to mog Nyanners again, pink cunt can't beat the blue autist in any timeline

>> No.4120942

Pomu has serious health issues and probably is better off in Nijisanji where the fans are less toxic. She also filters normies hard as fuck. I think she's in the right place. People who like the kind of content she provides will find their way to her, and she won't have to deal with the stress of being a part of hololive.

>> No.4120960

>>4117350
Imagine being the faggot who keep using manjisanji thinking that it means man when it keeps saying manji

also imbecile, she's in the west, where male vtubers are irrelevant.

>> No.4121122

>>4120942
The health issues aren't serious, people are just blowing it way the fuck out of proportion. It's something that was caught back in early April that is going to be taken care of in July. If it was something serious, it wouldn't be put off for 3+ months.

>> No.4121163

Why the fuck schizo keep pushing Pomu as Holo reject when the only confirmed Holo reject is the fish. Holy shit, leave my fucking fairy alone.

>> No.4121281

>>4109761
Korone too.

>> No.4121500

Thank God Nyanners didn't get in. Gura had made my life infinitely much better and bearable being stuck in this shitty online distance learning classes. I wouldn't have made it through if it weren't for her karaokes.

>> No.4122069

>>4121163
I think it's because she's getting popular with people that otherwise only watch hololive and they want to keep the brand wars alive.

>> No.4122224

>>4121163
Wait, is fish the Orcschizo? Is that why she "reformed", because she got into a peer company and would have to be professional and might even have to interact with Kiara in the future?

>> No.4124150

>>4122224
No. Fish is not orcschizo. She just said she was rejected by HoloEn so tried NijiEn. Orcshizo never accepted in any company.

>> No.4124173

>>4121163
She said it herself in her past life.

But she also said she'd rather be in Nijisanji, and Nijisanji wasn't doing EN auditions then if I recall.

>> No.4124190

>>4107857
Nyaggers is just a disgusting dumb slut, no way cover would hire her, but they did hired kiara so

>> No.4124192

>>4109706
Hana gets PSO sponsorships and I can totally see NijiEN getting a Genshin sponsorship in the future just because Mihoyo is filthy rich and they're steering clear of Holo.

>> No.4124218

>>4120224
being friends with gura got her in which is another fatal flaw of OP's lineup

>> No.4124224

>>4109132
I see the takamori smoke screening is doing its thing. Kiara's infamy precedes her vtubing career.

>> No.4124386

>>4109633
way too often we can observe how talents go to shit because they become excessively popular and are burdened by the weight of their enormous fanbase. sakura miko had to apologize for a complete non-issue that was turned into a big deal during the whole doujinshi fiasco and this was around the time of her 1M sub milestone. this would have had virtually no chance of happening back when she was much smaller.

>> No.4124646

>>4120911
Unironically true. That girl is like the magnet that always attract success

>> No.4124657

>>4117350
>>failed idol.

she even said in her own damn stream she gave up on that dream. do kfps even watch?

>> No.4124685

>>4108978
>Pomu
>whore
I dont think so since she's dying

>> No.4124909

>>4108027
Kiara's cool, but EN would indisputably and objectively be better with Pomu instead of Mori.

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>>4124685
Why must you remind me of her cancer...

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>>4107857
I've seen all timelines and this never happens in any of them.

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4124956

In a perfect world somewhere out there EN was like ID and only had 3 members for each gen.

>> No.4124969

>>4124956
>I world where Ame is just the town whipping post instead of Kiara
Woah....

>> No.4125014

>>4107857
Do people not realize Pomu chose Niji on her own accord? She keeps gushing about her senpai.

>> No.4125046

>>4125014
Well yeah, but this is just us imagining if she got picked up by Hololive. Obviously it wouldn't make sense in today's circumstances. What if, in the alternative timeline, she gushed over hololive and all that shit?

>> No.4125176

>>4125046
This is exactly what would happen. Pomu is just focusing her gushing on Nijisanji because they are now her actual senpais.. she is well-versed in the vtuber world and has extensive knowledge of anyone with any kind of following.

>> No.4125183

>>4124909
>indisputably
>objectively
It's only (You)

>> No.4125186

>>4109132
anon... I have some bad news...

>> No.4125230

>holoENIGGERS
who the fuck cares?

>> No.4125231

>>4108978
>>4109132
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.4125280

The lesson here is to never let tribalfags breach containment

>> No.4125290

>>4125046
>>4125176
She explicitly said in her past life she's more of a Niji fan. Though I guess that might have been after she already passed the auditions, who knows

>> No.4125325

>>4125046
The real Hololive Alternative should be about those "what if" where we get different people for certain characters

>> No.4125358
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4125358

>>4108027
I'm a 90% Holofag, and even I think she was better off in NijiEN, all of them were, actually. Their audience is big enough for them to be successful, but not so big that they feel overwhelmed. Just watching all the girls' first week streams and their collab, and there was barely any of that early awkwardness that the HoloENs had. There's way less pressure with just 2k people watching you, as opposed to 20k.

>> No.4125380

>>4125290
I can't imagine anyone who was genuinely trying to get into the industry taking a shot at one and not the other, whatever their personal viewing habits.
If nothing else, it's a doubling of the eyes on your application for someone to see something they like.
Of course it could just be a timing thing, and the success of HoloEN was the trigger to take it seriously at all. But I imagine everyone who applied for NijiEN would also apply for HoloEN2

>> No.4125471

>>4125014
>>4125046
>>4125176
She liked Nijisanji more. As she said when she was Mint, she tried to join hololive because nijisanji hadn't a EN branch. If there was, she would try it instead.

>> No.4125511

>>4125358
Yeah it wouldn’t be the same if they were in Hololive. For me, if a streamer has to enable slow mode, it’s game over for genuine chat interaction and bonding.

>> No.4125526

Not reading all that

>> No.4125557

>>4108812
Counter thought experiment, Gura being the one who joined vshoujo instead of nyanners

>> No.4125562

>>4125358
>>4125511
As a person who used to watch mostly hololive, yeah I agree the chat interactions are much more little and donations are usually the way to go if you want to interact with the streamer. That's mostly why I got into grooming indies and small companies.

>> No.4125718

>>4107857
Wouldn't Mori be the one replaced in this timeline since she barely wanted to apply in the first place? Out of all the EN girls she's the one we nearly didn't have the most

>> No.4125753

>nyanners ditches her work and community she's built over a decade to roleplay some Japanese salaryman's twisted fantasies
Truly the dark timeline

>> No.4126696

>>4108978
>>4109132
Reminder that orcschizo confirmed this.

>> No.4126713

>>4124685
Whores die of aids anon.

>> No.4126744

Pomu is cute as fuck and I kind of really wish she'd had gotten into HoloEN.
But I'm not sure she can replace anyone in gen1 except maybe Ame (who got the position through nepotism).

>> No.4126884

>>4111533
There’s also the timeline where Takanashi never applied in the first place.

>> No.4126922

>>4121163
Because Pomu is the only girl in NijiEN that's actually good, so people want to imagine her in HoloEN

>> No.4126998

>>4107857
I'd go for the third timeline where EN debuts with 3, removing Kiara and Mori

>> No.4127000

>>4112099
Nazca, it was true.

>> No.4127101

>>4125718
not really, if you check the map of who Mori worked with before and who other hologirls worked with, you'll see a lot of overlap
it actually might be why Cover is putting her so face-first compared to either Gura or Kiara, who you could expect to be chosen otherwise

>> No.4127136

>>4126998
it'd literally turn into a gen of 'Gura and adds' and be completely sidelined by Cover since all three NA ENs have a track record of being massively passive

>> No.4127260

Senzawa takes advantage of the EN Vtubing boom to become one of the best Vtubers herself.

>> No.4128156

>>4107857
As much as I despise Gura, I despite that hypocritical whore Nyanners all the more.

>> No.4128170

>>4127000
Kiara explicitly denied that rrat though.

>> No.4128258

>>4109434
CAN I GET UHHHH BIG SNEED

>> No.4128386

>>4109132
top kek.
I had been following her for years exactly because of the opposite.
I'd bang the german out of her.

>> No.4128388

>>4116232
Kiara is essential to making HoloEN function, because she's the only one with a vocal outgoing personality.

>> No.4128430

Remember when nyanners went through her weird period and was streaming hentai on twitch and playing with dragon dildos?
Good times.

>> No.4128440

>>4108135
Melody ia legit cool and fun. The CB thing is almost a detriment to her career.

>> No.4128472

>>4107857
keep pomu kick ame and nyanners. bring gura back or substitute with finance. perhaps also put lumi in. would like to kick mori too because of the recent drama too.

>> No.4128767

Pomu gets Ina-type numbers and streams early evening NA between Ina and Ame, overlapping both. Daytimes are a complete deadzone except when Mori streams. Nyanners is popular but not nearly as popular as Gura, ending up as the 2nd most subbed EN after Mori. Kiara never becomes a prominent streamer and returns to her home to work at a hotel after a boring and relatively uneventful year stuck inside her apartment in Japan during the pandemic. Gura ends up auditioning for Gen 2 and gets in, doesn't blow up quite as big because the Vtuber peak has passed but still becomes extremely popular, passing everyone from Gen 1 except Mori and Nyanners fairly quickly. Much to Nyanners annoyance, her main ship is with the loli Gura.

Without Nyanners there isn't enough interest and talent to bring about the formation of Vshoujo. All the Vshoujo girls go off to their fates as independents, possibly applying for future Hololive Gens or Nijisanji down the line.

Niji EN hires another low-view vanilla streamer in place of Pomu, possibly even Froot or Silvervale, but it does not dramatically change anything for Nijisanji's fortunes in the west.

>> No.4128792

>>4128440
Honestly, it's part of her appeal. She should do it more, not less.

>> No.4128947

>>4128792
it's definitely gap moe and I personally enjoy that content but you know that sort of thing hurts her chances in Hololive if she was so inclined.

>> No.4128957

>>4120960
Funny how you lacked the foresight to not see this happening

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4129048

>>4109777
even in 500 live viewers, its possible to have a chat that is illegible, its probably impossible for anyone to have a readable chat at 20k viewers even with members only and begging for susan to have a minimum word count

>> No.4129224

>>4110127
>no need to learn the whole background of Japanese net culture
I think I found the real gripe. You are clearly raging, so maybe you should try calming down.

>> No.4129256

>>4115795
The company you keep says a lot about you.

>> No.4129311

>>4108018
I don't think Mori would invest herself in the Vtuber market if the hololive application failed.

>> No.4129330

>>4129048
GOD, minimum word count would be a fucking godsend to chats everywhere.
Equally chat concatenation so commonly spammed phrases get taken out of chat in to some panel that shows a number of the messages instead of shitting up the chat. This can be useful to show reactions to something like people laughing at you or even used as polling.
So say 5 people in a 5 second time period all sent the same text, say "yes", any subsequent yesses would appear in a panel with a counter instead. A whitelist could be used to disable it for certain people, like mods, other streamers, other video creators, or specific accounts.
You could also have an alias mode where it looks for messages that are very similar to common words, like lol, lmao, kusa, etc.
Imagine how fucking good chats would be without excessive spam.
There was some webcam site years ago that did something like this and it worked amazingly well. (without the additional features that is, just the basic concat and I think it only worked with emotes)

>> No.4129341

>>4107857
I thought the fish was the chosen one among NijiEN for anons?

>> No.4129348

>>4128388
I'd honestly have to agree. Gens are built with personalities in mind and Kiara fits that loud niche for groups

>> No.4129386

>>4108978
>>4109132
is he too far gone into the idol cult bros? how can one be so delusional? is this what awaits us all?

>> No.4129396

>>4129330
minimum word counts would just generally be good for society in general.
shame that being good for society means less fast cash

>> No.4129398

>>4129330
>GOD, minimum word count would be a fucking godsend to chats everywhere.
Yes anon, I'm sure the chuubas have time to read 5 paragraphs of text as the whole thing is scrolling at light speed.

>> No.4129413

>>4109352
hololive/nijisanji tribalism is by far the most retarded thing on this board
and that's quite an achievement

>> No.4129469

>>4129398
it wouldnt be going down in light speed if everyone had to also adhere to the minimum wordcount lowiqkun
basic antispam features would also be inplace and it would be FAR FAR easier to moderate.

>> No.4129471

>>4129398
There'd be no light speed though, because there'd be no excessive levels of useless posts.
That's the point. That's what it is supposed to solve.
Chats are filled with "mee too!!" ism problems where everyone wants to get attention with their useless posts.
"OH S/HE READ MY POSTS HOLY FUG!!!"
It's stupid.
Even in small chats I only post when it is necessary. I've went entire streams posting nothing quite happily. (besides saying hello near the start)

>> No.4129483

>>4126922
retard EOP holofag's opinion going straight into the trash bin

>> No.4129484

>>4129330
That would actually be an amazing idea. Not as a standard, but as an alternative when your chat becomes garbage.

>> No.4129632

>>4129469
>>4129471
People are spamming for attention. What you'll ultimately create is a game of whack-a-mole with the audience, as they try and break the system.
>ctrl+v the sentence three times into the chatbox
That being said, I'm only referencing word count minimums. I agree on chat concatenation.

>> No.4129760

>>4129484
It'd be really nice.
>>4129632
True, there'll always be cunts that try to abuse systems, but they will be easier to call out and deal with since most of the time people aren't cunts.
Equally, both of these systems, minimum word count and chat concatenation, would generally be mutually exclusive modes.
BUT, you could actually mix them together if you exempt emotes from the minimum word count if chat concat is also on, and those would be concatenated when they go over the threshold.
Shame we'll never get this. Too much work for Indian Summer course graduate #311,234

>> No.4129866

>>4128440
I've heard she makes a crazy amount of money from that, would be really hard to give it up.

>> No.4130020

>>4107857
Nyanners immediately tries to cancel Matsuri and/or Marine, but not before giving a spiel about how transphobic the word trap is on stream. HoloEn falls apart. Somewhere, you can hear Coco weeping.

>> No.4130460

>>4128430
Nyanners whole life has been her weird period.

>> No.4130611

>>4109132
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO

>> No.4133111

>>4107857
>>4108812
>>4115226
>>4120849
>>4125718
>>4126998
Please do keep elaborating further some more, I love all these thoughts and ideas of ending up with vastly different alternate timelines & what-could-be's just from small changes causing major impacts down the line, with maybe a few constants.
>>4128767
This one in particular is especially interesting, hell you could even make up an entire story out of it. And I already got somewhat of a synopsis forming up
sorry, excuse my autism

>> No.4133432

>>4108027
after watching pomu for a week, i dont care about numbers anymore, i got slapped by quality over quantity.

>> No.4134496

>>4118133
make it 3 if posts like that are guaranteed to bait retards like you ;)

>> No.4137791

>>4124685
Hate to break it to you but her roommate is a whore, anon

>> No.4142544

>>4108978
>>4109132
Most honest man in KFP.

>> No.4146780

>>4115533
This is my 2nd time hearing veibae (the first time was where she was talking about sucking dick), and I couldn't bear it for more than 15 seconds. Not only does she talk about sucking dick, but she's also got this really opinionated voice that college girls with useless degrees and self inflated egos have.
It's like the opposite of Japanese culture, where you're not supposed to have hard opinions about things and not be argumentative. I think this has to be the missing piece about vshoujo that I (and many other anons) were able to sniff out a million miles away. For the longest time I would chalk it up to "lol they're thots who talk about sucking dick", but now I can put my finger on it. I know exactly what they're missing.

>> No.4146867

I don't want to imagine HoloEN without Gura

>> No.4146960

>>4146867
based
This post was made by an anon thinking about Gura's toes.

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4147078

>>4124956
>>4124969
>Can you imagine an EN without Kiara?

>> No.4147169

>>4122224
There are a lot of holo rejects anonchama.

>> No.4152462

>>4107857
I don't watch Nyanners now as I've never been much of a fan of her in the past, but I can't imagine she could be any more boring than Gura is under Cover.

>> No.4152878

>another no meds kiara hate thread
meanwhile nyanners would've initiated the final yab on day 1 during her debut

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