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>JPs are more popular
>NijiEN streams more and puts in more effort
It's clearly something specific to Hololive.

>> No.40928741

INA IS STREAMING RIGHT NOW BLINDO

>> No.40928747

>>40928682
Permissions and managers.

>> No.40928792

>>40928741
she's done 4 streams in 4 months you fucking donkey

>> No.40928793

>>40928682
At any given time some number of EN livers are on vacation/coasting, you just notice it less because there are more of them. Hololive's smaller pool of EN talent makes it more obvious when someone's acting like this and they had less chances to hit on really consistent ppl in hiring

>> No.40928813

>>40928682
they're preparing for a mega kino collab with all of EN (girls AND boys) to and at the end of it, EN5 will be announced which is HoloEN's first mixed gen! Look forward to it!

>> No.40928825

>>40928682
they stream, (u must watch streams)

>> No.40928854

>>4092868
Western women.

>> No.40928944

>>40928793
Shh, don't use logic in here, people like OP hate that.

>> No.40929073

>>40928682
HoloEN had their success given to them on a silver platter, HoloJP(early gens) had to work for that success. HoloEN never developed the mindset and culture of needing to stream due to not actually needing to.

>> No.40929158

>>40928813
I'll only accept this if it's a massive orgy.

>> No.40929295

>>40928682
HOLY CATALOGUE/THREAD READER.
The only one not streaming now is Gura.

>> No.40929351

>>40928682
because a manager in japan has to be awake during the streams, and all the english speaking japs are only awake for 9-5s

>> No.40929558

>>40928793
Many NijiEN girls put in way more hours than HoloEN girls despite there being more of them as well.

It feels like there are two reasonably-likely explanations - either there is high tension behind the scenes that at least in part drives some girls to quiet-quit (Gura in particular), or the girls are extremely sloppy/casual and don't really care enough about each other or this gig, and management fails to be able to inspire, motivate or encourage them to stream. In both scenarios, incompetent/careless/nonexistent management is an explanation somewhere in the chain.

The girls themselves also I think may be just annoying for management to deal with which leads to management becoming more assholish and spiteful which also makes the girls not want to work as much with them, a negative feedback loop. Or rather not all the girls but I can kind of see like, fucking imagine being Mori or Kronii's managers, dealing with their being pointlessly super fucking rebellious against everything that defines the usual Holo setup and being fucking clueless about how this all works and why it makes them all this money yet demanding you accomodate their stupid/brand damaging shit. If you're in a bad mood all the time dealing with shitters you might just snap and go "fucking MORI wants perms for that game? fuck no that's gonna get lost on my desk indefinitely, I don't care if any other girls wanted to play it" etc. We'll never know really but I can see it. I'd also think the girls would band up with each other against management instead of just openly agree and toss one of their own under the bus so if any of the girls feel like management's being shitty they build up that sentiment with each other and just start to think they work for the worst company ever and don't wanna stream.

>> No.40929678

>>40929351
Considering the range between Kiara/Ina's schedules being super out of sync with the PST slot they seem primarily aimed at, that doesn't seem to be a major issue really.

Also if a girl normally goes in an afternoon/evening PST slot which seems to be what they want yet still streams at a low frequency, how does one explain that?

>> No.40930211

>>40928682
Half the branch is in Japan, the other is streaming. Fuck, why do I even bother?

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>>40929558
congrats on figuring out a way to tie this back to mori
a real achievement in schizophrenia

>> No.40930635

>>40928741
fpbp

>> No.40930745

>>40930511
mori didn't know a single fucking thing about Holo prior to joining and has this super fucking condescending/patronizing view of it, Cover and vtubing as a whole. that's never changed and always comes back out some way/how from her sooner or later, it's happened way too many times now to just deny. now imagine you're in charge of this person. I don't think j-chad minds dealing with mori much but probably someone above her in management is annoyed by her, maybe not even within the EN branch.

>> No.40930841

>>40930745
>holoen doesn't stream because management is embittered to mori because she's just such a fucking bitch
read that back to me and tell me you aren't fucking crazy

>> No.40930921

>>40928741
She can go away again if she is only going to stream pokeman. Zzzz

>> No.40931107

>>40928682
Because they still get paid by fans anyway no matter what they say or do/don't do, because that's the power of the brand. Any other questions?

>> No.40931192

>>40930745
it makes no sense that cover hired nagu and dice over koala. like they just didnt want any idol fans to be there, only people who don't care about it at all.

>> No.40931319

>>40930841
you like a 15 year old who doesn't know how the world works. if even one manager fucking hates mori's guts and the other girls got wind of it, they'd get super butthurt even if the manager rightfully was mad at something stupid mori was doing/saying behind the scenes.

if she's had this many faux-pas in public trying to be restrained and professional, imagine how bad she might get behind the scenes without trying to guard her tongue. I'm also not saying this would be the sole reason girls wouldn't stream, but would be a contributing factor to behind the scenes tension which overall would kill their motivations.

I'd also say Tempus 2's existence ninja'ing what we literally all would have assumed would have been a new girl's gen also seems a sign of something fucking weird going on with EN mangement somewhere.

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40931348

>>40928682
ina is streaming

>> No.40931352

>>40928682
>>NijiEN streams more
yes
>>and puts in more effort
KEK

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>>40930921

>> No.40932083

>>40929073
This. Also the fact that they became millionaires much faster.

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>>40928682
>Ame is in Japan right now and may pop up in more offcollabs
>Kiara is also in Japan and fitting in streams when She can
>Mori's pretty much business as usual
>Ina just got back from hiatus and is streaming right now
>Gura was in a 3D Live but otherwise ???
>IRyS has an outfit reveal in a few hours
>Bae is prepping for a straight month of streams
>Mumei's back to normal streaming albeit feeling hard jetlag
>Fauna is presumably the same
>Kronii's currently having an uptick in streams

What are you talking about? If you ask me this feels like the opposite of last year when Ina and IRyS both got knocked with 24 hours of each other.

>> No.40932379

>>40928682
En put so much preferencial treatement into tempiss and tempoop it demotivate the main side of the branch. Look that the drough started when they were starting to look for m*les.

>> No.40932655

>>40929558
>The girls [...] may be just annoying for management to deal with
I'm not sure this is the case (besides Gura).
There's two ways people react to adversity, some are confrontational and some are non-confrontational. Most men fall into the former and most women in the latter.
This is no exception in HoloEN, and you can pretty much sort out talents in both camps:

>Direct:
Mori
>Passive:
Fauna, Mumei, Bae, Ame, Ina
>Mostly passive, direct once in a blue moon:
Kronii, Gura, Kiara

Basically, confrontational people will seek to tackle a problem head-on, while passive individuals will seek to work their way *around* the problem. Both approaches are nuanced and valuable at their best, and terrible at their worst.
The problem with passive people is they can just sit there and let a problem fester while doing nothing, which seems to be the preferred approach of BOTH management and the girls. Mori is the clear exception here, and the fact that she's out there doing her own thing further confirms the rule.

>> No.40932735

>>40931319
Mori can't be that bad behind the scenes, she never got suspended and Vesper caught a 2-week suspension over fucking nothing.

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40933349

>>40928682
Gura gets a lot of money just for existing, she doesn't need to stream anymore

>> No.40933456

>>40928682
Remember when holoEN fags were acting all smug about how much better than JP their favorite EN trash are? HoloEN will be the main branch in 2021 by the way.
They will no doubt reply to this post in much the same way as they did back then, only to go back to complaining about no streams.

>> No.40935396

>>40928682
Effort for about being sacrifice for accelerate anon?
Who is in this month being fired?

>> No.40935872

>>40935396
speak anglish third world subhuman

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40936168

>>40928682
Men just get it done and do it better.

>> No.40937028

>>40932130
the only one i'll bitch about is like...gura. but gura has a reason

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40937916

>>40933456
those fags also begs for holoEN3 thinking it will save the branch (roru) then 4-7 months later complains about the lack of streams and how council is much better than them (rumao)
>>40928682
both management and talents issue, unfixable without doing something extreme that gives cover a bad look so they would never do it. its a side branch anon if you were yagoo you would let omega and his tranny team handling EN for one less headache too

>> No.40938863

>>40928682
>why aren't these people generating content for my amusement 24/7/365?

>> No.40940405 [DELETED] 

>>40935872
Said seanigger

>> No.40940713

>>40935872
Anglish, seanigger?
New language?

>> No.40943627

>>40933349
Jesus Pekora is mogging them all.
>but Gura is numbah 1
Pekora's model is 1.5k and is clear #2. Gura would have to sell 21 units just to match 1 Pekora unit. Its fucking hilarious how much in recline EN is.

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