/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>4033970
who's that?

>>4034028
Fubuki and a char from the game.
>>4033877
Shame but the stream was pretty good.

>>4033877
Shame, this was a pretty entertaining collab and Rosalyn was pretty cute in it.

>>4033877
What about that sakura taisen thingy with marine & fbk?

The VOD is still up btw

Last one from me. Let's see what you guys have.

>>4034130
what about that?

You guys know that Artia and Coco are friends IRL, right?

>>4034297
2.5 hours of pure, unrefined, autism.

>>4034513
If you're going to make up rrats, at least come up with something convincing

>>4034450
FBK and Marine have shill streams for the Sakura Taisen mobage, and they even said that they have roles in the game. The game is being shut down on June 30, only 6 months after launch, and without first debuting characters that FBK and Marine lent their voices to too. I blame this on Delight Work shitty business practices.

>>4034067
Wasn't Rosalyn the only one who avoided being into the shitstorm that was HololiveCN backstabbing party when they where disbanded. Her and Yogiri?

>>4033877
Video for this uploaded anywhere?

>>4034584
Artia kissed Coco in front of Pooh

>>4034647
No, that's Yogiri and Echo. I don't really know the details, but Rosalyn is one of the more heavily involved, alongside Artia and Civia.

>>4034657
Say aaaaaaaahh~
https://youtu.be/kVnUHnz8mcc

>>4034746
Yeh I know about Artia and Civia. Maybe I got it mixed up because I'm pretty sure Artia tried to push some heavy narrative about Echo being the biggest whore possible.

>>4034618
oof I feel bad for them

>>4034818
That was Doris. Doris was backstabbing everyone.

>>4035033
I see, I need to redo my CN reps. What I remember about this is that no one knew who it was for sure but people implied it was Artia. Doris huh, didn't think she could get even worse on my eyes if it's the case.

>>4035257
Doris allegedly was previously kicked from another vtuber group for being a backstabbing dramawhore who sabotaged anyone more successful than her. Apparently she was also grooming an american gachi to get a visa and when she got caught she started spreading fake chat logs making it look like Echo not only had a boyfriend but was cheating on him with a member of VirtuaReal.

Eventually Rosalyn threw her under the bus to save her own skin.

Why did they have to be such backstabbing bitches?

>>4037806
They're Chinese

>>4037906
Bingo. Forget about doing “China Reps”. They’re all soulless bugs and closing the branch was the smartest move Cover ever made.

>>4033877
Mio best stream is always the collabs one, she should do more

>>4034618
i heard Sakura Kakumei failed because it's trying hard to be an FGO clone and whoever is managing the game is ignoring every criticism to the point that most of the staff fucked off and resigned. not to mention the mobage never featured the original characters from Sakura Taisen anyway.

>>4037742
>>4035033
>>4034818
>company with 95% women
>backstabbing and toxic environment everywhere
pottery

>>4033877
>>4034399

>>4038319
does these statues still exist, or it's from a different server?

>>4038166
The best part is that when rumors of the disbandment of HoloCN first started popping up Artial claimed that all 6 of them were in it together and wouldn't stay as a group no matter what, but when it became official the masks came off and everyone started backstabbing eachother and throwing eachither under the bus

>>4038564
Artia seemed so out of the loop it was almost like she was living in a fantasy world. She really thought Hololive would let them keep their models. She really thought her and the rest of her gen werent a bunch of clout chasers or that theyd do anything but look out for themselves.

>>4038601
IIRC the whole 'keep their models' thing was a powerplay that backfired. They thought that if they announced it, Cover would be forced to comply. I can only assume that by that point Cover was just done with their shit and they got nothing.

>>4038601
Oh I forgot
She also thought for some reason that she could attack the companies biggest money maker and A) get away with it and B) face no repercussions

>>4038675
Its funny that they thought China had any leverage over Cover after ENs huge success. When HoloEN blew the fuck up it was over for China. Why would a company willingly deal with all the bullshit that comes with having a chinese wing when they could just make obscene amounts of money in the West.

>>4038601
Heard that this was also cn management fault, basically taking part in attempting to have power over papa yagoo. Confirmed or rrat?

>>4038712
From what I've heard EN doesn't make much money compared to JP gachikoi dropping rainbow supas. Still better than CN though, where BiliBili takes an even bigger cut than YT and the CCP has made getting money out of the country extremely difficult.

>>4038601
>She really thought Hololive would let them keep their models
It didn't matter that much because they used a similar appearance when reincarnating anyways.

>>4038601
From the start of it all happening Artia was imagining herself as being this brilliant puppetmaster that would play off her CN and EN fanbases against each other and management to get more influence

The moment on stream when she realized that billibilli/CN management had played her was hilarious

>>4034818
Pretty much Yogiri and Spades did nothing wrong.
Civia did something wrong but she openly repented and showed a lot of remorse.
Artia did a bunch of crazy shit to the point it is almost endearing.
Dorris was Hitomi Chris.
Rosalyn was extremely openly nationalistic and openly called for people to harass Coco as punishment for acknowledging those Island Dogs... needless to say she did nothing wrong. Also it is a fucking tragedy she never received an updated design because her design was great.

>>4038953
Its harder to quantify EN because a lot of their money is made on memberships and we dont have official numbers for those, only guesses. If the guesses are remotely true (Gura with 12k members and Ame with 7k) theyre making a shit ton a month off of just those two.

>>4039019
Artia was really attached to her model, it mattered a lot to her.

>>4039263
I havent seen that clip. In a way I almost feel bad for her, she has been brainswashed all her life and then got a very public facing job with not just her own people but international people who havent been fed her bullshit.

>>4038445
No, they're from the CN server.

>>4039377
>international people who havent been fed her bullshit.

Thats a problem faced by Chinese nationals as a whole. They are fed their government's propoganda all their lives and foreign businesses are required to play along if they want access to the Chinese market. This causes problems when they encounter either foreigners or foreign businesses that don't operate in China; they have no reason to indulge the CCP's pretensions and are free to say what they really feel about China. Obviously, this comes as a major shock to Chinese citizens.

Honestly the whole Taiwan arc has been a case study in why the Great Firewall exists.

>>4039268
I think you have to see them as a group. Like Gen 2 vs HoloMyth vs Gen 3 in a month to month basis to see whether or not HoloEN is a success. For the most part they are. Kiara and Calli carries them hard with SCs. Gura is mid tier in SCs but high up in Memberships. Ame is mid tier in both SCs and Memberships. Ina is midtier in memberships. Some holojps are performing poorly in both ends like majority of Gen 0 and Gen 1 with exceptions of Miko, Suisei and Haachama however both gens are core reps when it comes to concerts, sponsorships and Radio/TV appearances. You can always rely that almost all of them will show up.

Still Holo related technically

>>4034618
>>4038055
There's a lot to Sakura Kakumei that lead to it being a house fire of a project.

>Delightworks management had apparantly let FGO's success get to their heads when the Fate name kinda carried them to where they are
>Brought on Hideo Baba after he had left Bamco over what happened with Tales of Zestiria (a story on its own, basically the Tales fanbase hates him now)
>Sega poured 3 Billion yen into this and may only gotten over a 100 mill back

The thread on /vmg/ has a lot more meat on this situation.

>>4039619
As messy as it was the whole experience helped Cover dodge a huge bullet. I'm glad they are no longer in China.

>>4039265
I have to give Artia credit, she almost single-handedly shaped the events and EOP narrative that happened. She shaped it in consistently the worst way possible, which now that I'm really thinking about it in retrospective is absolutely hilarious.

Surprised how nobody posted Aloe's debut stream yet. Especially the part where she asks to look forward to watch as her horns will grow.

>>4034618
That's because they love Sakura Taisen, and were probably paid to. But the mobage is just a dumpster fire. I say this as somebody who likes the newest console game even though it's definitely not as good as the original games.
The greed of the company is also a big part of it shutting down early. Anyone with half a brain knows if they keep the game going and fix user complaints they would at least break even eventually. Delight Works are jaded as fuck from FGO and have no idea what a working business model is since they could just release a pile of shit as a new hero and make a killing

Artia saying in her debut stream that she wanted to collab with Coco. Also it's weird to think that the gen 4 debut, holo cn debut of both gens and China shit practically all happened within 2020. I'm glad Coco stayed, though.

>>4037742
don't forget the whole PM'ing and manipulating gachikoi to pay out the nose and send her gifts for things like one on one karaoke streams in complete violation of her contracts rules
>>4042154
She said in her graduation Twitlonger that she respected and was talking to someone she couldn't name behind the scenes. Think about how shitty a person you have to be to fan the flames and incite controversy against someone you like while still talking with that person...

>>4038932
One of the things to make clear, is that HoloCN is a different company from Cover. HoloCN told them they would keep the avatar, so yeah they were trying to do a powerplay to yagoo. That or it was just zhangs being zhangs.
ngl the artia meltdown was the best part of that whole shitshow.

>>4042154
There was some other rrat that said that Artia blew up some of Yogiri’s creations in the CN Minecraft server because Yogiri was either Taiwanese or had Taiwanese blood. That and Artia took part in troll raids in the past.

>>4039263
The absolute meltdown was quite a sight to see.

>>4038601
Chinese are very pragmatic, they’ll usually go for themselves and their kin, especially to the detriment of others

>>4043451
Yeah, ID, CN and EN are/were all managed completely differently.

>>4043566
Chinks would sell their mother for money domt lie to yourself zhang

>>4038953
EN makes about as much money as 3rd gen combined in superchats. They aren't outearning the JPs but that's mostly because there are only five of them vs 40 something on the jp side, gen for gen they are like the second or third best performing.

>>4044039
from what i've heard, the big money for Cover comes from sponsorships
I would guess EN doesn't make that much money yet, but will soon
they've got lots of popularity and other companies are starting to take notice of the potential to buy shill streams/collabs

>>4037742
>Apparently she was also grooming an american gachi to get a visa
Damn... I can't even blame her for that, she should've just used Artia or Civia though as they already had them.

>>4037742
Wait, that chat logs are fake? But there are some nude pictures in it.

>>4037806
They're women

>>4044379
The logs are fake, think the nudes are someone else too. Echo is a cosplayer but she doesn't go full on naked iirc.

>>4039265
literally NTR'ed by America.

>>4039263
THE TRUTH IS
THE GAME WAS RIGGED FROM THE START ARTIA

>>4038953
Frankly they don't need to outspend JP to be considered a success. Being a beachhead into the Western entertainment industry and still being profitable in its own right, competitive with the gens in JP, is plenty. The next test is to see if the next gen can replicate the success, as in bring in new money, new fans, and maintain their own base. If they can do that and EN is objectively shown to not be a flash in the pan or 1 gen wonder, then things will probably only go up from there. I am also genuinely curious if they can bring in new people, or if they will cannibalize.

>>4039265
all of those except Yogiri did nothing wrong is 100% incorrect. Kys

>>4044255
>Artia could’ve fucked off to America and saved herself the whole time
Very smart

>>4039530
last time i was watching subaru's minecraft stream, the server list still has the CN server and it seems to be running

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ob3g9y6FV64
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6sy-eS9XMk
Noor...

>>4034297
Fuck I just had a laugh remembering the end of the stream. Artia getting depressed from her dinosaur dying is peak autism

>>4045720
>Noor pops up in a Mito video 2 weeks after graduation to read English

>>4045883
She's still an ANYCOLOR employee, she just won't be doing anything close to proper collabs like those, and is stuck being an interpreter because of her kanji reps. Also Elu carrying the fuck out of JK Gumi and their kusozako English.

>>4045461
She's probably living in america, seeinghow se can browse twitter, youtube and twitch, it's just that like all chinese expats she couldn't shake the bug programming and was a sleeper agent all along

>>4046023
Damn, Noor got played dirty

>>4043546
Link?

>>4046023
Kinda weird to credit her as her graduated character from the graduated branch instead of just as a staff member then.

>>4046483
What if the whole JK Gumi + Elu English skit series was recorded before Noor's graduation?

>>4046542
Then they had 2 weeks to change a few little parts.

>>4045461
She was living on the west coast anon

Yogiri...

>>4033877
I don't have the screencap, but Aloe speaking about how her right horn will grow in the future and how she wants everyone to see it.

>>4046337
Not that anon, but I think it was mainly on Twitter

>>4040364
Bye bye Magnet

>>4046337
>>4048741
Yeah, her meltdown happened on twitter and her discord server, she started doom and vagueposting on twitter she also changed her profile pic to a clown Pepe and her bio from "vtuber" to "clown from mars" and started making some bizarre tweets.

It was glorious.

>>4048896
>>4040364

>>4049028

>>4049266
Well, she certainly is a clown, so that userpic wasn't inaccurate.

>>4049266
lol wtf

>>4049266

>>4049266
Man, she was pretty much going insane for a few hours then she ended it with paying a huge sum for a rush job on a new avatar and said she felt better and in control of her destiny or something like that

>>4045692
omoshiroi

>Kiara's "INA WAKE UP" stream
>any "waiting for a follow holo member to wake up" stream at all
Sure it's funny and kino and whatnot but what if something actually bad happened?

It's a really risky type of content that gambles on things being fine
If something wasn't, even if the holo deletes the stream and makes a public apology it'll still leave a bad taste and people might archive the stream anyway and antis could latch onto it, might even create bad blood and awkward tension with the late person herself

Tamaki's clothes peg arc.

You niggers realize Artia is just a chronic shitposter and you’re looking for rrats that don’t exist.

>>4050423
Did someone link this thread on NGA?

The fact that Ame was right about not being into playing Minecraft solo.

>>4040364
You don't know how much I miss LifeMoRoTomo streams.

>>4050423
Greetings! I'm simple American girls named David and also think so. Great leader Xi jade pillar head full hair many wondorous chats cat wife. Westerners islanders no pillar little magnificent chats. YAGOO stupid opposing Great China.
Strike!

>>4034297
This stream got me into moona

>>4050138
it could be final yab territory.

https://files.catbox.moe/miz7i9.mp4

>>4050138
I don't know the context of this Kiara and Ina thing.
But I think it's pretty obvious that FBKING did her legendary wait stream to shield chronically late Shion. And Marine too of course. By criticizing her first she controlled the criticism and turned an annoyed audience into a laughing audience. A classic example of turning lemons into lemonade.

>>4051177
Me too.

>>4034297
part 3...

>>4034513
Hecatia doesn´t follow Coco on twitter despite the fact she follows a lot of hololive talent.
Not that I care, I don´t give a shit about asian politics and I don´t like Coco.

>>4046254
How do I unwash the Tia?

>>4038601
>>4038932
>>4039263
How accurate is all this RRAT? i know its CN, but even this behavior seems like a bit much given their occupations.

>>4054058
You're correct and that context actually matters imo
In japanese culture it's seen as pretty rude and unprofessional to show up late; in the US we'd probably just go ah whatever it's a stream but for hololive it was pretty significant lateness, and they're still a part of a company after all
Fubuki doing that stream took the heat off those two and shielded her fellow holos by turning an uncomfortable situation into great entertainment, really making a statement similar to other stuff she's done

Kiara though? The only thing notable about Ina's was Ina is a professional, responsible streamer who doesn't do things like show up late so people were genuinely worried maybe something happened to her
Kiara pretty much did the stream to copy Fubuki's example, nothing really heroic about it
So instead of kneeling and respect, a lot of people were anxious about how much cringe and embarrassment and discomfort would happen if it turned out Ina was actually missing cause something bad happened to her

>>4038601
Suppossedly, what happened there is that they were told by whoever was the head of HoloCN´s management told them they would keep their models. The problems, said manager pulled that out of his ass and Cover had never told him anything like that.

>>4039265
can you tell me exactly what happened at Tienanmen Square on June 6th, 1989?

>>4034297
I'm about to watch it. is it cringe kino or pure cringe just like 66 minutes?

>>4054744
Don´t believe absolutely anything about HoloCN, regarless of which side it supports.
The whole conversation has be infested with Chinese Nationalist, /pol/tards, glowniggers, Cover antis, Cover bootlickers, and redditors all trying to push their prefered narrative.

>>4050423
Artia could be shitposting in 4chan for all we know.

>>4054759
>something bad happened to her
So what happened to Ina?

>Thinly veiled glownigger thread

>>4054744
The stuff that happened on stream is legit. No one doctored the streams. Other shit is impossible to discern. You honestly can't believe anything related to Chinese netizens because of the major political issues surrounding them.

>>4055097
She overslept by two hours, just like the other Holos that have ever been late. Antis just concern fagging and butthurt that Kiara hit 30K viewers for a hilarious stream that brought loads of more Ina art. Plus, we got sleepy Ame and Ina voices. A total win.

>>4055270
Sasuga concernfags.

>>4054980
fair point. political autists can't help but force that shit into everything.

>>4055097
I'm saying in *case* something bad happened to her
Fortunately nothing bad happened to her, she overslept just like Shion and Marine did
But IF something bad did happen, then Kiara's stream would probably be one of the most poorly aged streams in all of hololive
It doesn't even carry that protector factor that Fubuki's stream had, it was pretty much just an attempt at entertainment and following the Fubuki trend

>>4054058
This is a one of the reason that Fubuki is the most important Holo

>>4054980
>>4055608
Tiafags are really out in full force doing damage control huh

>>4050138
Kiara knows ina better than you ever ever ever will. You will never get to speak to ina but Kiara calls her and they talk regularly. You are nothing compared to her knowledge of ina and she knows more about whether ina would have been in trouble or not than you do. Remember that you chinless weak cunt.

>>4053261
>shh the chinamen don’t know what I’m saying, my English fans

>>4054870
Some faggot stopped traffic for a few minutes like an antifa protester. Something something powerful propaganda. He is hopefully dead now.

>>4056936
Bug detected.