/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>40122524
... Is there legit any EN girl who hasn't betrayed Kronii at this point?

>>40122814
Me, when I join EN4 in 2 years

>Gura deflection thread

>>40122983
Gura also betrayed Kronii, so kind of related, maybe?

>>40122524
At least Kronii still has vesper

I don't get the betrayal, I don't watch either of them

>>40122983
who?

>>40123438
Vespapa only loves his bikespear. He fused them into a gargantuan being to defeat (betray) Kronii.

It's her, you could say, Fate.

>>40122524
What did Kronii do this time

Sundial died so InuTori could be born
it's sad but it happens

>>40122524
>Germans in charge of not betraying you

or me becoming StarsEN whatevergenitis

>>40123775
>Sundial died so InuTori could be born
Ill take it

>>40122814
>Is there legit any EN girl who hasn't betrayed Kronii at this point?
Unironically, IRyS
She is the only one who gives a shit about Kronii

>>40128193
What's the point?
Irys already has Bae and Jp members also I feel she didn't want to stream the school days watch along with her because she streamed on IRyS's anniversary stream

>>40128428
Watch streams anon. They had to cancel the watch along because of her cat

>>40122524
Kek

>>40122524
Not much of a betrayal

>>40122814
Mumei?

>>40122524
theres been worse

>>40122524
My favorite part was the one where everyone was consoling Kiara on twitter despite it being Kronii that was forced to delay the stream twice and spent almost an hour making herself look like a retard

>>40134722
yeah and even kronii was consoling her lmao

>>40122524
Good

>>40122524
Soon Kronii will only find love and trust in her beloved fans and become the hermit kingdom of hololive. All according to the Kroniicorns plan.

Actual 200 iq move from Kiara to make Kronii look competent and drive narrative away from "why isn't she in Japan?".

>>40142004
Mario Kart tournament, same reason Ame and Gura aren't there.

>>40141626
All Kronii needs are her fans and (non-holo) friends. She's already got an exit plan by the looks of things.

Kiara loves cats. Kronii kills cats. It's like oil and water.

>>40122524
There can't be betrayal if they weren't friends to begin with

>>40122814
You'd need a pretty schizophrenic definition of betrayal to ask this question.

is there any substance to this or just anons trying to stir up shit from ESLs

>>40122524
>Punished Kronii

>>40141626
Was this Gabe's master plan all along?

>>40134722
looks like the curse is happening
bye kronii
you'll won't be missed.

>>40144675
for reference
mori the killer of vtubers

>>40134722
Kiara needed consoling. Kronii didn't. Problem?

Miko's chat v Miko

>>40134722
That's because kiara actually has fans, kronii decided to not chase any audience in particular and just sort of filtered out people over time
Unironically, this was a power move by kiara, kronii probably got the first big taste of being overpowered by femininity in her life

>>40142787
A little, kronii made kind of a passive aggressive tweet in response to kiara's apology that will fly under the radar of people who have never interacted with spiteful women

>>40134722
Kronii is a strong girl. Kiara will die if nobody tries to console her, she would do a stream telling her fans how bad she feels and looking apologetic. Be glad she did get the attention, the don't feel bad comments

>>40150817
of course twitter tranny, but you should go back. there is surely more people to cancel on twitter

>>40122524
explain

>>40152150
Kiara declared her open support for Kim Jong-Un's regime.

>>40152150
read the fucking thread

>>40123438
that's good, hope it stays that way, she can stop doing hololive it's best for everyone,
look even all the rest of EN is in JP but her.
the company already soft graduated her.

>>40134722
>Kronii that was forced to delay the stream twice and spent almost an hour making herself look like a retard
The fact Kronii is completely unable to carry a shill sponsor stream on her own, something vtubers do all the time, for just an hour of bantering about the product with her chat, is much more telling than you let on anon.
Kiara actually showed the audience how incompetent Kronii is by accident.

>>40152370
>kiara fucked ups
>kronii had to improvise and changed the whole dynamic of a stream that was already planned
>somehow it's kronii's fault if things don't go as well
sure, body

>>40152808
>>kronii had to improvise and changed the whole dynamic of a stream that was already planned
>it's kronii's fault if things don't go as well
Yes. Let me rephrase this to match reality:
>Kronii wanted to passively react and laugh at the things Kiara was saying and was instead forced to actually be a content creator instead.
>Kronii failed at content creation when not propped up by someone else.
This is why Kronii doesn't look good in this situation.

>>40152948
oh, the stream was not a failure but it wasn't what was expected because kiara fucked up, and you got a delay of 15 min like 5 times because they need to coordinate with all the parties involved if it's ok to change the whole planfor the stream while kronii is building up stress in the backstage

>>40134722
The only people wronged here, were the sponsors. Kiara fixed her mistake very quickly and profesionally. Why the fuck would Kronii need any consoling? For not being able to improvise and doing an half-ass sponsor stream where all she had to do was to comment on the song cover and talk a bit about the game?

>>40153298
If you're going to plan at all, have a planB.

Kiara...
Fucks up in Europe.
Fucks up in USA
Fucks up in Japan
The international fuscking fuck up.

>>40153472
>kiara causes problems for everyone
>kfp gets mad at kronii
I think kiara needs consoling when she does a mistake, badly
Kronii doesn't because she can handle it, not like kiara

>>40153646
No one is mad at Kronii and Kiara didn’t bother anyone except maybe the sponsors (if they care at all since they didn’t retweet the stream...)
You’re a literal faggot grasping at straws.

>>40153472
Tell me Kiara's stream wasn't sponsored and she did it pro bono while Kronii gets all the money.

>>40134722
Kronii was probably sad the Kiara collab didn't happen but no one needs to console her for doing her job.

>>40153796
She probably got paid exactly what was planned.
The song cover did happen and she compensated her missed stream by another one.

>>40153796
they pay for both of them, Kiara needs to do her sponsored part otherwise how do you explain that to the company? that's why kiara did another stream

>>40122524

>>40154179
>not a new IP
>Replying to OP

i think im beginning to dislike KFP

>>40150768
>kiara is a numbers-whore
>kronii is just herself, screwiness and all
... Why the actual shit is option 1 supposed to be better, again?

>>40154220
Point to the rule where it says you can only reply to a thread once and I'll make a synthesis. Otherwise, get used to the fact that most people aren't your mom and aren't going to indulge your aspergery.

>>40144675
>>40150768
>>40152370
seeing how KFP has shifted over time from being fans of HoloEN in general and pro-unity to the hyper-defensive psycho state they're in now has been really strange and disappointing. It used to be that KFP were the 'heckin' wholesome' 'muh positive vibes' moralfag fanbase that would reflect Kiara's unity values and always defend other Holos but these days it seems like more and more like they've just become bitter and deranged and will shit on the other girls as a kneejerk way of 'defending' their oshi like how the most schizo chumbuds act towards Ame and others. Acting like abused dogs lashing out or something.

It's sad desu, never thought I would see KFP attacking Kronii of all people and using all the same kinds of arguments that antis use against Kiara against her too (e.g. she's unprofessional, she's menhera, she isn't cute enough etc). I guess the old Nietzsche quote really is true, even for something as fucking dumb as defending anime girls online: Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.

>>40154456
That’s a lot of words to say something retarded.
KFP is and has always been pro-unity. KFP has never shitted on Kronii, not even the (garbage) KFP split.

I doubt that the posts you are quoting are actual KFPs.

>>40154620
>if they make us look bad then they were never part of the team
just like the chumbuds

>>40154620
the third one I agree tho. that guy is a threadreader

>>40154702
kek - straight out of the playbook in fact holy shit

>>40154702
You are replying to random people in a catalog bait started with an egg as OP. Real opinions are on /hlgg/ and the splits. You can check the archives, no one blame kronii.

>>40154620
>It's not real KFP! Every time they do something wrong or morally bad it wasn't actually KFP and if you somehow prove it was, well, they're just a few bad eggs! They don't represent KFP as a whole! And if you do prove that there is a pattern of bad behavior, well, I'll just flat out deny reality and say it never even happened! Trust me!

>>40154456
KFP went through the same shit I saw happening with Takos. The "stink" that drove off fair weather fans wore off, now that she isn't being constantly shitposted anymore. So people latch unto her because she's not colabbing with homos, not because they like her. Same how people became "Takos" just because Ina was yab safe.

>>40154851
I hate Kronii, I hope she graduate. I will literally dox her address and kill her with my own hands.

t. KFP fr fr trust me bro

>>40122524
eh its ogey

>>40122524
Why is she so treasonous?

>>40154456
Kiara has never shied away from throwing other holos under the bus to improve her image, so it's to be expected that her fanbase reflects that.

>HoloCN trying to Julius Caesar Yagoo
>Rushia stabbing her ex-manager to death after getting fired by Cover
>Mori torpedoing Takamori after she milked it for money and viewers
>Mori setting up Gura at the AirBnB
>Coco going nuclear on chinks
>Mori converting Ame to the dark side
>Sana succumbing to chink gacha
>Ame crushing all of Gura's hope of actual friendship in Rust
>Council betraying Kronii in Minecraft
>Kiara abandoning Kronii


Yea it checks out

>>40154456
since the debut of Tempus, unity was no longer an option

>>40122814

>>40153506
Why plan for a coworker to just not show up to a sponsored stream. That has rarely ever happened. It’s like saying you should have a plan for what to do on your way to work incase North Korea launches nukes at your city.

>>40134722
Don't forget the part where she coughing at the beginning of the stream, got much better by the end, then remembered to coof again. It was so obvious.

>>40150768
>kiara actually has fans
She sure does and they are very loud, just like her. No where in hell as numerous as Kronii's though.

>kiara had all day to prepare after betrayal
>still didn't prepare

>>40122900
good luck

>>40154456
>seeing how KFP has shifted over time from being fans of HoloEN in general and pro-unity
What the fuck are you talking about, you revisionist? From the moment we came to be we were shat on by everyone. We had to deal with TakaMori and the rest of the EN fanbases just rejecting us and talking shit about our oshi constantly.

We always were Kiara first and always will be. If most of EN is a disgrace it's their own fault, they made their bed. We owe you absolutely nothing.

>>40122900
she already graduate by then

bump

>Kiara dindu nuffin she a pure seiso idol

We really shouldn't have stopped bullying KFP had we known you'd turn out this way. >>40154456

>>40175262
>we
>>>we

>>40122814

Kronii is truly the most hated HoloEN on /vt/

>>40122524
>"UNFORTUNATELY IDOL CULTURE IS A THING"
In yo face, Kronii

>>40122524
>KRONII SHOULD NEVER COLLAB WITH -
>meanwhile all the ENs do this shit to her>>40122524

>>40122814
Haachama