/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

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Her diet.

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Collab with Tempiss, fucking homofags ruined HoloEN, i hate them so much

>>40018678
Occupied a slot in one of the biggest vtubing corpos just to end up barely streaming. Same goes for Sana.
People meme on Gura and Ina now but they streamed consistently at least for a year. Ina was consistent even more than that actually. Kronii is just a fucking bum. I don't care about male collabs, just fuck off from this business if you don't feel like streaming.

Auditioning for Hololive EN

Pulled her pants all the way up to her chest.

Exist

>>40018678
Easy lmao
Collab with homos

Stole Irys model forcing Irys to use the shitty prototype for a year and a half until she got her new one.

>>40018678
bought those mom's jeans
girl no one dresses like that in the west

>>40018678
She didn't go to Japan with the rest of the girls to meet IRyS, she spent new years with her "friends".

She is a worse Oceane

>>40018678
>receive sexo sweater+corset+jeans outfit
>turn it into whatever the fuck her new outfit is

>>40018678
She tried to reason and compromise with unicorns and fucking read out loud a chapter from a self help book concerning parasocial relationships.

>>40018678
Tempiss

>>40018678
Killed her cat
Hates her fans
Hates her breasts, what fans like best
More invested in collab with men than with girls her own gen
Shows up stoned for Minecarft and says embarrassing things because of it
Overall lack of empathy
Roommate is a radfem
Created one of the worst EN fanbases that keeps leaking their putridness into other fanbases
Roommate is an unironic mentally ill enbie
Streaming only twice per week at her debut honeymoon phase
Shitty ASMR

>>40018678
Applied to Hololive EN

>>40018678
Tried to compromise with her unicorn audience and ended up breaking their trust.

>>40018678
Commented and argued with people on clip channels.
Also: "unfortunaly idol culture is a thing"

>>40019383
>Created one of the worst EN fanbases
I agree with this

>>40019194
>trying to spin lying as reasoning and compromise
>glossing over the part where she shat on the very idol culture that's responsible for her career's existence
Kek

>>40018678
Joininig hololive instead of niji or vshitshow

>>40018678
She hasn't given me paizuri with her huge bazoongas.

>>40019383
>picrel
If unironic basement dwellers I am one worked on #1 and #2 instead of getting defensive about being losers then #3 wouldn't be such a cope moment for them.

>>40018678
She didn't cut her fingernails before milking my prostate.

Trying to be unicorn friendly without actually being unicorn friendly

She didn't introduce Mumei in her debut.

>>40019609
You presume I have the same values as you, I don't. I just laughed alot at her frankly asking if her fans had experience with 'friends of the opposite gender' then double downed on and FUCKING READ A PASSAGE FROM A SELF HELP BOOKLET ON PARASOCIAL RELATIONSHIPS. It was certainly a creative concept for a vtuber stream but oh lord my sides.

>>40019383
>Shows up stoned for Minecarft and says embarrassing things because of it
This is a good thing tho.

>>40018678
Raping ina and eating her asshole

>>40018776
Genuine question; What did they do that was so wrong?

>>40018890
I miss oldrys

>>40018678
She didin't peg me.

>>40018678
she didn't make out with mumei on stream during the off collab

>>40020386
Have dicks.

>>40018678
Not having a big 15 incher in her pants. If you catch my drift...

>>40018678
didnt have sex with me

>>40018678
Not smothering me with her massive titties.

>>40019927
This.

I will NEVER let her live this down

She didn't show me her butthole yet

She has no social tact.
That's why I love her, though.

>>40018776
Unicorn

>>40021602
Pretty sure she has some form of 'tism.

>>40020058
Those moments were geniunely funny, she would be all
>whaaaaaaat..... dude.....*laughs*

>>40021635
You're probably right. It's part of her charm.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSR2vOws6kI
>Hey, let's play a co-op with 7 other of your coworkers.
>Oh, I know, I'll eat a subway sandwich during this period of time.
>Loudly eats, turns stream into a mukbang.
>"Why is everyone mad at me?"
There's this gap between what an idol is "supposed" to be, versus what she is, and it's great.
Also, if she has some form of 'tism, doesn't that mean she's one of us?

>>40022019
Well, I'm sure most of the girls do, EN, JP and ID. I know Kobo has a brother with autism, but wouldn't be surprised if she had it, too.

>>40019124
Could you clarify, please? I haven't heard any of this.

>>40022110
I'd be more surprised to find a neurotypical vtuber, the job is perfect for ADHD can't focus expect for hyperfocus types, so long as they know how to manage burnout.

>>40019737
>If (You) worked on #1 and #2 then #3 wouldn't be such a cope moment
>#1 be troon groomed
>#2 streamer telling people with real jobs to improve
>#3 lesbian telling men to have female friends
Nah, I think I'm good

>>40019383
>radfem and Enby

Anon, the former group hates the latter for being "straight women trying to fuck gay men"

>>40022134
it's not well known by people outside hololive, I have a bit of insight because I made it up
obviously the original design was deleted, but it looked something like this

>>40018678
She fucked up her only two collabs with Fauna.
They've only had two collabs in these 16 months, and she fucked up both of them.

>>40018678
Joining Hololive when she hates idol culture.
Using Hololive to earn some easy bucks because her VA career is trash.
Think she's important enough that she can change Hololive.

>>40022421
needless to say the booba was also nerfed but you didn't need me to know that

>>40022600
Anon, This is a Kronii thread, not a Calli thread.

>>40018678
it's beyond my mind how can you enjoy someone that hate her model. i mean that is your connection with the magic of vt, this girl is one big example of en management incompetence

>>40018678
Sana could name a hundred and kronii would just sit there, silently seething

>>40023750
what are you even talking about?

>>40018678
https://streamable.com/4bf4eb

I was a Day 1 Kronii who caught every stream live and I can explain this with honesty and clarity. It's true that a lot of Kronii's defenders are on the spreadsheet but honestly it does go further than that. There was only one person who could be considered close to a "Unicorn", at least going by the feedback on the community post, (Aliaga Ayin) and even then he was closer to the definition that's thrown around here which is "anyone I don't like so I will also call them incel" as opposed to the original Japanese definition.
What really killed Kronii was the unarchived member stream that she did where she read the comments on the community post, said she understood the concerns, said she would not initiate collabs, would not interact with them in public, and would not interact with them on twitter. She also said she wouldn't stream her perspective in collabs. If you can, I would recommend watching the whole stream but since I know people are lazy, I just have a clip here. https://files.catbox.moe/8684g7.mp4
Seriously though it's worth it, especially where she reads the comments, it felt like she was really validating the concerns of her members instead of just dismissing them as incels. Now some people were still slightly unhappy that she wasn't going to swear off male collabs entirely but at this point she had explained herself and what she was going to do and people who weren't down with that were free to leave. Then she immediately did pic related and left for an extended period of time. When she came back, she said she was immediately taking back everything she had said, there would be no further discussion about it, and the Hololive official account tweeted that thing about protecting their talents at the same time. So basically she lied to her members, went back on her words without explaining herself, and hid behind Cover's skirts. The people who had felt understood at the time of the unarchived members now saw that she was siding with the people who had called them losers and incels. The "do you not have female friends" quote could have been passed as a once off, but with this people were betrayed and hurt.
Kronii was a mediocre streamer, and still is, but people were willing to forgive that because of the personal touch, the way she would read people and interact with them. It's like how parents will praise their kid's objectively shitty artwork and post it on the refrigerator. It sucks but it comes from someone who is dear to them. The fact that she took the time to read the complaints on the community post that most would have ignored really endeared her to a lot of us, which made it all the more brutal when she immediately backtracked and said she wasn't going to talk about it anymore.

>>40018678
She is somehow a worse kronii than IRyS is

>>40023912
This...this has got to be the tamest motherfucking drama I've ever heard. Like come on, I want to hear real drama. Like she got inna fight with someone in an off-collab or something. Or she lied about having cancer or something. Wtf. This is just stretching.

>>40024062
She asked for money for oppai mousepads and hug pillows and then sided with people who not only didn't buy those things but also saw people who bought those things as gross.

>>40018678
She didn't masturbate on stream

>>40022532
I dunno man, they seemed to be having fun last time, could it just be you're full of shit?

>>40018678
join Hololive

>>40018678
The worst thing an entertainer can do, fail to deliver consistent quality content. She had exellent start due her design and voive, she has subsequently meandered without finding a niche or grow her audience.

>>40018678
Collabed with males and lied about it to members

>>40020386
Be men in an all female group, i think we’ve all been pretty clear about what we dislike from the very beginning

>>40023912
So what I'm getting from all of this sentence is the following

>Kronii addressed the concerns by suggesting she might not collab with the Holo males.
>Cover didn't like this since they reserve the right for their talent to interact with whoever the fuck they want, moreso inside their own company, so they pulled rank on her and ordered her to take it back and cut that shit out immediately. No further discussion.
>Kronii relays this to her audience

Sounds like Cover has shit on its hands rather than Kronii, which they can deal with, considering how /vt/ can't stop sucking them off.

>>40024062
Nigga we don’t like men in hololive, idk why this is so hard to understand, at first kronii made it seem like she understood us but then she backtracked and kept collabing with men which ruins the vibe of hololive, so we will anti her until she stops

>>40026881
Nah bro she did tempus collabs way more then any other member, she went back on her word out of spite, not obligation, thats why she did it more then anyone else

>>40027187
Oh my God how scandalous. :|
Maybe I watched too much Jerry Springer when I was little, but I just don't understand you niggas.

>>40018678
She shit talked idol culture despite not knowing anything about, essentially calling all her JP Senpai fake

>>40027187
>collabing with men which ruins the vibe of hololive,
So what makes Kronii worse than Choco, Fubuki, Matsuri, Sora, Azki, Towa, Roboco, Suisei, Mori, Zeta, Kobo and Ollie?

>>40026881
Not quite. Kronii seemed to make an effort to understand her longtime members when we were getting obviously brigaded by Reddit and Twitter faggots saying KRONII SHOULD COLLAB WITH MALES AND BE IN RELATIONSHIPS ON STREAM (see what happened with the Rushia bullshit which lead her to do something drastic). These same faggots were calling everyone who liked CGDCT incels and the like. So it was nice of Kronii to hear out the grievances and even defend her members, she said they weren't incels or unicorns even. She said she could see where they were coming from. This was all in the unarchived member stream.

Then she went on a long break and when she came back she did a complete 180 and sided with the normalfags, the twitter and reddit trannies all calling her longtime fans incels. That's what real people are pissed about. If you see someone complaining about "idol culture is a thing" or "do you guys not have female friends" more than likely they are some SEA troll trying to shit stir with easy bait everyone knows about. The people who are really upset with Kronii are ex-fans who thought they were understood by their oshi, only for her to yank the rug out from underneath them. Cover has no say on what image their talent projects, they were fine with Rushia and Lamy being unicorn friendly but they were also fine with Holos collabing with Homos. Kronii just ran and hid behind Cover because she is a coward.

>>40027760
not him but literally all Kronii had going for her was parasocial and her model. She sucks at games, sucks at zatsu, doesn't stream often, doesn't sing often and sucks at it, doesn't try new and original things, doesn't collab often, doesn't bring much to a collab when she does.

Like all she had was the parasocial and the model. Those other Holos you listed have other strengths so people watch them for those, and are less likely to sperg because they aren't there for parasocial reasons.

>>40027760
NTA. She's a femnazi, but either way I dislike all of these on varying levels.

>>40018678
Joined hololive.

>>40020386
Existing, then being cheap twitch streamer, when even good twitch streamer are shit.

>>40027760
fbk sora is grasping for straws if you actually knew their content

>>40027798
Has anyone else from the Holo girls mentioned they won't explicitly collab with the Holo boys and not taken it back?

>>40030265
Fauna

>>40030265
IRyS

>>40030265
Migo.

>>40030265
Noel.

>>40026747
But Holostars is an all-male group?

>>40018678
She better publicly announce that she and mumei are dating this year or else

>>40031517
did you just assume their pronouns?

>>40018799
6th post best post

>>40037169
> fucking *murican thinking people care about their bullshit

>>40037169
Their pronouns are mag/mo

>>40018678
didn't tardwrangle her chat

>>40019094
She's also a worse Erina (of Phase). Both of them absolutely blow the fuck out of Kroni in the things she's allegedly good and was hired for to the point it's ridiculous.

Only complete idiots are still watching Kroni. Even if none of her bullshit happened and she never collabed with males she'd still be a worse chuuba than those two. She's C list in her own niche.

Her biggest mistake is probably not listening to those that tell her that she needs to meet her fans halfway. I get that she doesn't want to do certain things but you literally joined an idol company and the core audience are people who want idols and expect that type of culture. You don't join a meat processing plant and try to make it vegan. Even if you don't agree with everything, you make compromises. Her listening to people that thought it's a good idea to go against the culture aren't the type of people that care about her career.

Also she was wrong to be boring. She's boring as fuck and only mid during a watch along and collabs where someone can pull a personality from her.

>>40018678
She isn't a drunken psychopathic whore who rushes out shitty low-quality content so her braindead fanbase who she's openly admitted to hating can say that 'she actually streams'.

Some people are into that, evidently.

>>40028976
So basically they didn't do anything wrong and you just don't like them. Got it.

>>40018776
someone's all pissy wissy today uwu~

>>40027798
strawman arguments, unicorns got the ire of Reddit and twitter because you kept sending her Condom Supas in ARS, the only mistake Kronii made were teasing these stupas and letting it live rent free.

>>40019737
if they did there wouldn't be vtubers

>>40018678
Said she would listen to peoples concerns then ignored their concerns, that's about it. Other than that she's doing fine. She makes /vt/ schizos seethe because she exists without actual drama like Mori or one of the many JP holos they don't know exist.

>>40018678
Have absolutely zero thighs

>>40028976
At least they actually stream chummie.

>>40023912

>>40018678
>>40019728
This.

>>40019094
>who
BASED

>>40044751
This is wrong though. Gabe aside, most of the member posts against the Homo collabs were fairly reasonable and not schizo. She even said so. The people sending condom money SCs were just SEA trolls, which will show up at any big happening.

>>40018678
She engaged with antis when she should've just ignored them.

>>40046587
>most of the member posts against the Homo collabs were fairly reasonable and not schizo
So was Gabe's on the surface and look how that turned out.

>>40018678
>>40023912
>>40044751
>>40026881
>>4002779
Mucho texto, just say she was too wishy-washy.

If she wanted to pander to unicorns she should have kept her word, if she wanted to collab with whoever she wants she should have told them to fuck off.
BOTH are acceptable options, and there's no way to please everyone, but either through spite or genuine autism she couldn't grasp that concept and ruined it for everyone.

>>40018678
Spoke English.

>>40047759
meant to include >>40027798

>>40046635
Kek, Gura who?

>>40046635
It's this
VTubers continue to forget that any form of response is fuel for an anti's fire, they are primarily attention whores at the end of the day. Ignore them and they fuck off to seek catharsis to soothe their mental illness elsewhere.
If you have a legitimate grievance with their actions I don't blame anyone for complaining, but it's plain as day that many are in it for a reaction and circlejerking.

>>40018678
She should have consulted with her manager/senpais before tweeting initially against the schizos.
There’s a way to BTFO them without sounding off to your fan base, her initial response was Calli tier in insincerity.

Then the circling back on shipping Art after realizing it would mean a huge cost to her, as most shipping Art can be cropped for thumbnails.
She just acted in an unprofessional manner, surprising for a girl with this many years in experience.

>>40047661
Gabe was always a seanigger so he was schizo to begin with. The real anger against Kronii comes from people who thought she understood them, only for her to side with the normalfags who don't even watch Hololive in the first place.

>>40047759
yes. plain and simple

>>40048268
>Expecting a normie adjacent woman to understand non-normies
>trusting women
I think I found the problem here

>>40020551
I too, miss la goblina, but IRyS seems a lot happier with her model.

>>40020386
exist
then leech

>>40045317
souce?

>>40024099
>person that designed the mousepad being a RM friend who directly benefited from the merch
You forgot that Katszchen got paid. So prude on top of full on Nepo Jew
>>40022412
Radfem can mean anything from TERF to leftist "kill all cis / all men bad" insanity. Kronii is the latter
>>40038862
She cant even kayfabe as the sadistic and arrogant warden of time. It is literally all just le depressed 2008 boomer memes.
Anyway watch Oceane. The Kronii model should have gone to someone literally anyone else

>>40045317
she will never look at me like this, why even live

>>40018678
didn't go to Japan for New Years to get a massive dopamine hit from goofing around with her genmates

>>40018678
Gender confusion

>>40044751
So not only a liar but petty too

>>40018678
she didn't graduate

Not going to Japan to have a full Council off-collab

>>40018678
be a lazy low effort streamer

>>40018678
Killed her cat.

spoonfeed me on the cat story

>>40047759
basically this

no one gets salty about bae, because she was verbally homo-positive from day one so unicorns never bothered

>>40047759
she just got petty and changed her mind to own the haters, simple as. Whether she thought of it herself or was coached into it only she and Mori knows.

>>40055280
vesper penetrated her pussie with his long and sturdy spear
days after that she started to talk about him on stream again
hmm sus

>>40018799
Not going to NijiEN

>>40045317
sauce?

>>40023912
Imagine explaining this as if its a legitimate problem in your life to a slave wage tier factory worker in Bangladesh or a starving child in Uganda, get your shit together please.

>>40018678
joined the wrong company.
if she wanted to be a whore like nijishit,
she should have gone there with mori

>>40058898
>joined the wrong company.
but vesper is in cover not anyblack company

>>40058898
Unlike Kronii, Mori is hardworking and successful.

>>40018678
Name 1 thing she did right.
Im waiting.

>>40018890
wasnt that Kiara?

>>40018678
She had an off collab with me, I made her addicted to my megacock and megacocks in general. Rookie mistake if you ask me.

>>40062899
Latch on Mumei for shipping purposes.

>>40062899
Is born with good voice.

>>40020386
>>40039312
Kind of late but hey this thread is still open. I can go on about how much I hate men collabing with the girls. But I am just going to be specific and use Magni for why they get hate.
This man on his first stream admitted he hated the kayfabe, hates sub celebrations, hates the restrictions cover places, and hates his model. Unlike the other guys he was very successful and had a decent career in content creating.
So this begs the question. Why the fuck did he join Stars? He does not like any of it and he was not a small streamer that saw it as a chance to grow, so why would he join?
Well we know why which has to do with the fact that his associates in his PL have been trying to break into the hololive sphere and either convert it to their standards, collab with specific girls or suck up as many fans as possible. They have been trying with mori but were barely getting anywhere. Then Magni join and he starts collabing with them while also collab spamming with hololive like a fiend. Then once shit came to a head they all pulled off and management came down on Vesper. Those same associates are now content and have not been bringing hololive up as much anymore while magni has been alluding to going back to his content creating on his old channel in January.

>>40022019
What the fuck how did I miss this, how is she this dumb the collab was 2h long just eat b4 or after!?
This is dumb and rude to both the fans and her co-workers

>>40027760
Choco, Fubuki, Soran, AZKI and Towa are likeable.

>>40019383
>likes male collabs
>then says after kronii hates all men

>>40018678
Did she ever whip out her huge thing is a penis cam reveal stream?

>>40026747
you're just jealous because you won't ever have that happens in your life.

>>40065563
she sure seemed that way about the 1y leading up to the homo collabs

>>40018678
Unironically?

Bait and Switch.

You don't cater and build your fanbase around a GFE career (remember all the 'Bond Level' talks?), release merch supporting it in the way of sexy dakis and the like, and then turn around and literally shit on the people that made you popular.

That's the problem. If she wanted to collab with Men, she should have been honest from the start like Bae and NOT gone the GFE route. But that's not what she did. That's what's unforgivable about her. It's not about 'collaborating with Tempus' it's about the lies and the falsehoods.

>>40066314
This is exactly it, Bae never got any noticeable flame or hate for her homo collabs cuz she was open about it day1.

Dont build something up over a long time only to raze it on 1 night.

>>40062833
>successful
Worst streamer in EN with the lowest CCV

>>40038982
why she stopped working with teampiss?
go demand the collabs fag !
she ain't doing it anymore due to her weakness
go demand it

Did Vesper reroreros Kronii's honeypot?

>>40064281
>words
Okay so when will they graduate?

>>40068084
some already soft graduate
as in most normal people don't give a shit anymore
eg mori, ame
keks

>>40026881
Nice headcanon. Except it falls apart when you realize other members like IRyS have not and will not stream with the boys, and even stated as much. You can't always blame cover for everything, sometimes it's on the streamer.

>>40068232
Cope, Ame is still the most beloved. Her NY stream numbers are solid proof.

>>40068395
in self denial.
who even knows ame ?
collab with JP almost none.
collabs with other EN? she has?
i swear sometimes ppl wonder if she's still active or in hololive
she should really take her own advice and improve herself. maybe loose some weight.
fat bitches are annoying like that.

>>40018678
born korean

>>40027798
>She said she could see where they were coming from
I seem to recall a certain line of hers that completely contradicts this statement.

>>40068928
To be fair, Ame has done a lot of behind the scenes stuff. Cover almost literally put the entire weight of EN on her. If anything I blame management for not be professional fags.

>>40064281
Honestly, I can kind of agree with that, Magni really just wants to do his own thing. I do like his energy and all that, but I think he does need to commit more to the holostars stuff instead of doing his own thing. He likes doing bits, he should commit more to the bit of being in holostars. Another thing is that he dislikes sub celebrations because, and he even stated this himself, doesn't care about the numbers. There's even a meme about it in the /mans/ thread.

>>40071532
management dogshit lazy women doing the bare minimum 100%
>a lot of behind the scenes stuff.
behind the scenes of doing nothing u mean
still can't think what some setup that's used once and that's it?

>>40049581
>>40058642
https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=6941098