/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Who do we blame for Holostars JP low numbers? How the fuck can 10 holostars collectively have lower numbers than 1 mid-high tier niji male?

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>40009657
This one because it has the proper format

>>40009684
maybe they are too boring

>>40009421
How? Just recheck the VOD. I swear her screen was blurred when i saw shitposting from 5ch. Now in the VOD it isn't/

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>200,666: Hololive VTuber Group (Hololive)
>141,898: Hololive VTuber Group (Hololive)
>90,735: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)
>45,488: Miko (Hololive)
>37,809: Toya (Nijisanji)
>37,500: Suisei (Hololive)
>33,420: Pekora (Hololive)
>29,768: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)
>29,015: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>26,454: Maimoto (Nijisanji)
>26,360: Marine (Hololive)
>24,867: Subaru (Hololive)
>22,445: Lamy (Hololive)
>19,485: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>16,876: Mito (Nijisanji)
>16,446: Kanata (Hololive)
>16,368: Korone (Hololive)
>16,028: Matsuri (Hololive)
>15,989: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>15,973: Towa (Hololive)
>15,375: Aqua (Hololive)
>14,640: Kanata (Hololive)
>14,264: GatchmanV (Indie)
>14,029: Koyori (Hololive)
>13,702: Ponpoko (Indie)
>13,288: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>12,976: Bae (Hololive)
>11,752: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>10,735: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>10,405: Vox (Nijisanji)
>10,382: Iroha (Hololive)
>10,197: Salome (Nijisanji)
>10,049: Holostars (Hololive)

A massive day for Hololive to cap 2022 with a big bang

>>40009448
>>40009529
https://youtu.be/shYKDrFBaf8

>>40009759
>shitposting from 5ch
nahone

>>40009427
>incomplete
Everything you need to see is right there anon.
Fact is, significantly more viewers (around 1.5k per minute, that's about 20k for the period) opted to exit the stream during the parts in question.

>>40009793
>>10,049: Holostars (Hololive)
KYS

>>40009759
>I swear her screen was blurred
Could be on your side, dropping resolution for instance

>Hololive: 190k
>HoloStars: 9k
Surely that means Cover should put more resources into the Stars to even that number out.

>Nijinigger psyop using Kiara to shit on IRyS and to call her a nepo hire
So blatant and retarded jesus christ. No-one cares about that orange slut in this thread, that was the dead give away.

>>40009684
Hololive isn't integrated with them well enough for exposure, they need more collabs and more concerts together.

I can barely wait for the monthly statistics to be posted tomorrow.

>>40009793
Kek, Hololive lost the yearly gold. NJU and Koshien are too strong

I just noticed that most of Hololyzer's UI is in English now. Did you guys check it that often for SC messages?
>>40009759
Either Mandela effect or you simply lagged and YT automatically lowered your resolution, anon.

>>40009759
Youtube was shitting the bed during the live so maybe your resolution dropped to 144p.

>>40009684
holo audience want cute girls doing cute things + idol journey
that is what made Hololive popular in the first place

>>40009866
If they pull enough of them, soon both will have 20k!

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>200,666: Hololive VTuber Group (Hololive)
>141,898: Hololive VTuber Group (Hololive)
>90,735: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)
>45,488: Miko (Hololive)
>37,809: Toya (Nijisanji)
>37,500: Suisei (Hololive)
>33,420: Pekora (Hololive)
>29,768: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)
>29,015: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>26,454: Maimoto (Nijisanji)
>26,360: Marine (Hololive)
>24,867: Subaru (Hololive)
>22,445: Lamy (Hololive)
>19,485: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>16,876: Mito (Nijisanji)
>16,446: Kanata (Hololive)
>16,368: Korone (Hololive)
>16,028: Matsuri (Hololive)
>15,989: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>15,973: Towa (Hololive)
>15,375: Aqua (Hololive)
>14,640: Kanata (Hololive)
>14,264: GatchmanV (Indie)
>14,029: Koyori (Hololive)
>13,702: Ponpoko (Indie)
>13,288: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>12,976: Bae (Hololive)
>11,752: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>10,735: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>10,405: Vox (Nijisanji)
>10,382: Iroha (Hololive)
>10,197: Salome (Nijisanji)
>10,049: Holostars (Holostars)

A massive day for Hololive to cap 2022 with a big bang
>5 seconds rule, nobody saw

>>40009866
I'm okay with reinvesting towards the sharts, as long as it's not done at the girl's expense like the NY countdown

>>40009938
retard

>>40009836
>>40009859
I literally went and checked out her stream for 30 seconds. Everything is fine except for the background, which was blurred.

>>40009873
They used Kiara since she might as well be a Niji and of course sisters use any chance they can get to shit on IRyS. Not to mention she btfo Enna's NY stream so it was a given.

I honestly hoped the Homo shit would just stop one way or another, but it just gets worse.

>>40009684
They have be shilled way beyond what they deserve and have been leeching from the girls for years, it's a fucking lost cause.

>>40009956
Your brain is auto filtering homos. Sasuga!

>suddenly shitposting about StarsJP despite ignoring them for a year
What is your goal?

my cute wife

>>40009938
Sora's lewd. Sora's new outfit breaks the highest new outfit record ccv.

>>40010038
I hate that this is technically correct.

>>40010038
Oh yeah, Gura outfit mogged.

>>40010015
>Cover pushes StarsJP to the front
>WAAAH WHY ARE YOU SUDDENLY NOTICING THEM
Shitposting about any and all branches are what happens /here/ unfortunately. They were well hidden before, but the more they get pushed the more they'll attract schizos.

>>40010010
No.. I don't want to be a schizo, not by those
leeches faggot. I'm too young...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgK6-DedVcI
>azusa tadokoro
Kek

>>40009998
Yagoo is the CEO and he is the biggest Stars supporter. You can't get anuone more powerful than that as your backer. Stars brand will stay until Yagoo steps down. But even then, there is no guarantee the next CEO would not be another Stars supporter.

>>40010015
We could have gotten 225k peak had it not been for the homos
Also the entire mixed part thing visibly inconveniences my oshi who was restreaming the concert.

>>40009938
STARS ON THE TALLY BASED BASED BASED
HOMOCHAD DOMINATION

>>40009938

>>40010082
best type of correct

>>40009938
* TOP 25 VTUBERS OF THE YEAR (POINTS) *

Tsuzuite wa, kochira!!!!

Gold = 5
Silver = 3
Bronze = 1

1. Pekora: 482
2. Miko: 272
3. Kuzuha: 206
4. Subaru: 159
5. Nijisanji: 139
6. Marine: 130
7. Salome: 125
8. Aqua: 112
9. Suisei: 82
10. Toya: 73
11. Gura: 68
12. Hololive: 65
13. Fuwa: 45
14. Mio: 44
15. Hal: 43
15. Kanata: 43
17. Koyori: 40
17. Korone: 40
19. Fubuki: 36
20. Flare: 34
21. Towa: 33
22. Noel: 32
23. Botan: 30
24. Okayu: 28
25. Lui: 27

>>40009684
Cultivated the wrong audience

>>40010119
I mean if they want to ruin the girl for the boys, so be it. When Hololive went to shit and Holostars are still shitters maybe they will realize their mistakes

>>40010119
>Google: How to force a CEO to step down?
>Answer: Spreading rrat about sexual harrassment and let the metoo movement take its course
Easy as taking candy from Luna

>>40010239
>top 5 vtuber of the year
>including their corpos even though they are vtuber companies and not vtubers
brainlet

>>40009755
At least in that regard, we've established they have as a plus, even over most Nijis and Holos every time someone /here/ gave them a look
>better 3D tech
>pretty fun

So the main conclusion is
>JPs don't watch them out of spite
>SEA watch them, but don't count on YT.

>>40010275
>Hololive went to shit
What?

>>40010239
Unironic Top 10 vtuber list in terms of stream viewership
And is actually backed with data for once

>>40009938
if NJU day 3 was free, it probably would be winning today i guess

>>40010332
he's ESL, forgive him

>>40010278
Shut up, nigger, you know what I meant

>>40010119
>Yagoo is the CEO and he is the biggest Stars supporter
Its not just yagoo, the original "omega" before the current larping one is also one of the huge star supporter.
Probably the reason why he hired omegatranny in the first place.

>>40010332
*HoloEN
>last peak at July 17th

>>40010305
you are just tying to cope a reason for they low numbers, people just dont care about them, nijimales with worst design and 3D get better numbers than the best homo

>>40010038
Wouldn't have it any other way.

>>40010239
Kuzuha, Salome and Kenmochi are the biggest. i saw it

IRyS is currently the only HoloEN streaming. you should talk about her

>>40010390
What's even the perk of having popular male Vtuber in the first place? Why does it have to be male? Popularity is popularity

>>40010087
It's suck cause stars are underrated all things consider. People here brought up all the cool things hololive did for the stream. When stars did just a good for their concert and even better for some songs yet hololive took all the glory. The fact nobody brought up tempus showed up for the holostars countdown is a shame yet the en girls get one line of dialog everybody and their mothers treat it like it's amazing. The fact that the stars major concert struggle to hit 10k is just frustrating when the girls who frankly who is not as talented as singing as some of the bois get 100k free without struggle. When the only thing that separates the two of them is a boy or girl not talent or skill.

>>40010305
>SEA watch them, but don't count on YT.
Except they clearly count for NijiEN whom they are a major contributing force too. And even HoloID.

>>40010411
>he says this when pekora had a lower number in her outfit reveal than in her previous one
homostars integration ruined hololive anon

Growing and investing on stars make sense.
It's a market they don't have much shares in and female viewers are unironically worth more in ad value than male viewers.
Doing so at the cost of potentially hurting the girls is fucking retarded.

>>40010449
IRyS only gets shitposted in /#/, there's rarely serious discussion about her.

>>40010239
>11. Gura: 68
How?

>>40010490
You cannot pick a worse example

>>40010456
women spend more than men literally. popular male > popular female

>>40010466
you're insufferable

>>40010305
thats just cope
nobody cares about stars no matter how much they will shill them due to how boring they are

>Video Production: B-sakamoto
This guy is so much better than Kanauru

>>4000000

>>40010468
> they clearly count
pull out the Kiara polls.

This isn't some controversial opinion from 2 years ago. We know if you use YT vance, you don't count as a viewer, Making SEA the most culled population.

>>40010456
There is literally no perk. No point. Nothing. Holostars are a mistake through and through. It looked for a while like they were silently killing this godforsaken branch but late 2021/2022 they ramped it up.
Just off the top of my head:
-3d spam for the faggots, while the massively more profitable branch is forced to go begging elsewhere for 3d studios
-Uproar (which hilariously they try to brand as something other than holostar, desperately trying to avoid the cursed brand name) and the pretty heavy shilling they gave them, including IRL ads
-Tempiss and the whole HoloproEN family bullshit
-"nooo you can't overlap our boys we need the extra 200 ccv for this debut!"
-trying to slowly merge events to be coed

>>40010466
Is this a Reddit comment?

>>40010490
Her previous outfit reveal had a whole arc to it. Not a good example.

>>40010546
>he thinks that even if you wont recognize stars you wont get affected
doesnt matter if the talent recognizes if they exist or not, they will still get hit due to the drama that stars causes.

>>40010305
This is pathetic

>>40010466
Guess their rep of being leeches reaches further than their rep of being good.

>>40010567
>>40010414
>muh cope post
I still said many people don't watch them you know?
Do you even bother reading and understanding a sentence in full before replying?

>>40010466
Did you copy paste this from reddit or something? You sound like such a whiny homobegger bitch, even /here/ homobeggers aren't like this.

>>40008250
>It's like mixing cheese with icecream.
Anon it isn't actually that bad, picrel tastes alright

>>40010626
And her current outfit reveal should have been higher due to the new viewers she obtained and yet it was lower.

>>40010456
There's not much you can advertise to/sell to men. Female control the family purse especially on Asia, they can be advertised to from dishwasher brands to expensive jewelries

I fucking hate whoremei and the green whore. Was hoping they would get fully drunk today and expose themselves but I guess not. Fuck these sluts.

>>40010600
>he thinks sea knows or uses vance
those retards dont even know or use adblocks

Non schizo anon here. Can anyone recheck this moment for me, i need a second pair of eyes? >>39993893 I swear it was blurred at live, now it's not in VOD.

>>40010547
But they aren't TRYING, much less succeeding, in getting the female audience. And how the fuck would they get the female audience who won't spend money on holos...by trying to leech holos?

>>40010750
based

>>40010119
I mean, when the 2 most influential talents (Sora and Foob) are also supporting the Star ... It's kinda hard to argue against that, even when you have the number (Peko), or seniority (Miko)
Not to mention that you CAN have the kind of number you want while working with Star (See: Suzy and her music)

>>40010785
She hid the video for 2 seconds to refresh the page because it was lagging.

>>40010695
>homocheesbegger
fuck off with your dairy unity bullshit

>>40010701
Not really. Whatever new viewers she had were there. Just not as many tourists tuned in because it didn't have the same kind of story arc her previous outfit reveal did.

>>40010449
She's... reading superchats?
Quite exciting idea for new year's celebration.

>>40010547
Why are they trying to look for female among Hololive audience then? The whole thing is retarded

>>40010785
YT was unstable in some parts of the concert. Maybe something fucked up the bitrate to a significant amount of viewers

>>40010276
Anon, we're talking about the Chaos Realm known as California

>>40010539
Gura had 5 golds, 11 silvers and 10 bronzes this year.
5x5+3x11+10=68
Glad to have helped!

>>40010789
that's not the point anon. cover obviously wants the female audience and will try anything to make the stars succeed

>>40010822

>>40010547
>women spend more than men literally
nah, women spend more than males if we are just looking in between 13-19 years old population and not a lot but after that males outspend them in terms of quantity and population.

>>40010822
Suzy already has tons of female viewers, can't say the same to literally almost anyone else.

>>40010785
Nope

If NJU day 2 and 3 were free I think they legit would be over 300k if day 1 was 242k

Can these 2 fucking whores graduate already? Both whoremei and the green whore are lazy boring entertainers and have 0 talent. The green whore's voice is the fakest shit I've ever seen, and whoremei literally has fucking autism. On top of that both of them cuck their fans everyday behind their backs. How the fuck has cover not gotten rid of them?

>>40010239
>Pekora gold 57x (285)
Her golds alone are worth more than anyone else's total

>>40010878
what? the holo audience isn't entirely 99% male. even just a tiny bit of that is bigger than what the stars currently have

>>40010971
nah people realized it was shit during day 1 and didnt show up for 2 and 3

>>40010785
Hey didn't the pic in this post get like 10 (you)s? Why is it non now?

>>40010701
Pekora is literally stronger last year than this year anon. Did you miss the peko recline shitposting the whole month?

>>40010466
How about you post this shit on reddit. The shitshow is at least going to be entertaining.

>>40010971
Too bad it wasn't. And if it was free, it'll be 2 days not 3 days.

>>40009684
The male vtuber market has been seized by Niji-sanji, so people who watch Holostars are quite rare.

>>40010701
>due to the new viewers she obtained
What viewer? You mean the gachafags who just want to see her gambling and then fuck off?

>>40010449
I mean in terms of numbers she pulled a Niji and peaked 20 minutes into the stream, got 7k which is neither too low to shitpost with or too high to discuss

>>40010239
Pekora...I kneel

>>40010356
goes to show how greedy nijisanji has become

>>40011030
>Pekora is literally stronger last year than this year anon
And her outfit reveal was lower than her previous one.

You guys really can't go one day without timelooping huh?

>>40010779
>Region knew for riding the high sea
>Doesn't know how to adblock
Who the hell you're trying to fool here bro?

>>40010878
20% of Marine audience would have gotten Star 400k sub and 6k average. Even Female Hololive viewer aren't interest in them

>>40011081
Because people didn't have to wait as long for the recent one, plus it didn't have the same arc her previous outfit reveal.

Watamates are whipped huh

>>40010920
That's nowhere nearly as true, especially in Japan/Asia in general where it socially expected for the female to take care of spending in the household.

>>40010971
Eh, the duration matters too. Day 2 and 3 were shorter.

>>40011093
they can't post dox or will get banned

>>40011107
Sea doesnt use vance or adblock due to how data is sold there anon. You dont have to pay for the whole internet and just pay for parts of it thats why vance and adblock isnt used as much.

>>40011070
You gotta kneel harder than that, Vegeta... Pekora is the true Super Pekolandian.

>>40011025
that makes no sense. its obviously because only 30 minutes is free so theres no time for more people to come and watch

>>40010908
Yes, and?
At least she doesn't scare to mention them
U N L I K E S O M E P E O P L E
Then again, I assumed Soratomos are proper adults and know not to spregg out whenever someone with a dick is mentioned on stream, can't say that about the more fast food-obsessed crowds

>>40011081
At least you revealed your colors fast, schizo.

>>40011093
The thread wouldn’t survive without timeloops

>>40010900
But how the hell are they gonna do that by appealing (and annoying) the male fanbase? Do they hope we'll send our little sisters to watch stars out of Holopro unity or something?

>>40011081
At the same time she repeatedly beat her peaks last year in both anni and birthday stream

>>40009684
>How the fuck can 10 holostars collectively have lower numbers than 1 mid-high tier niji male?
what are examples of mid high nijis who have a higher median than all holostars together?

>>40011234
Go back you insufferable cunt.

>>40010955
Do we have the numbers? I'm sure Holo bring up their fanbase percentage from time to time

>>40011181
>women who spend money for anime/vtubers
>family
pick one

https://www.twitch.tv/mogra
>3K
mogra inclining

New Year is coming and you guys still arguing about retarded shit
Can we just, like, put aside the shitposting for one day and discuss thing normally?

>>40011226
>You gotta kneel harder than that, Vegeta...
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>40010900
But the stars aren't even appealing to females

did the nips compare the NYE countdown with the NJU?

>>40011004
Suisei is a relatively popular holo-live member among women, as she was voted the 4th most popular vtuber by the female-centric Animate. Well, it is less popular among women than the second-ranked Salome.

>>40011258
The idea to promote and invest more in the homos made sense
Doing so at the cost of potentially hurting the girls is retarded
Conclusion: cover is retarded, and should be warned for those

>>40011234
>soratomos are proper adults
>he says this when miyabis stalker and harasser was a know soratomo

>>40010449
We all hate Irys here. We don't talk about someone we hate

>>40011258
free advertisement is free advertisement lol. cover did the math and figured that the "annoyed" fanbase are just a loud minority

>>40011339
no, if you want that you’ll have to wait for chart anon(s) to post something

IRyS said she doesn't know much about the new HoloEN gen, but to be on lookout for something in February.

>>40011338
>InoTaku
>anti gravity girl
Brb checking /a/

>>40011258
Funnily enough, i once sent a cover by Izuru to my sister because i realized that she was listening to a vocaliod song that he had a cover of, but she ended up watching the girls instead.

>>40011435
>cover did the math
>cover
>good at numbers
ruru

You guys are like baby

>>40010239

>>40011435
>cover in charge of being good at math
roru rorumao

>>40011195
yes, but if it was free it would be 2-3 hours. its exactly because its short that it cant reach 200k
>>40010456
>>40010547
most NijiJP dont have a high female fanbase. the most popular ones have around 30-40% female fanbase
in nijien thats a different story, as the yall have about 70% female fanbase to the point that fanbase also went to the girls in some capacity for subs and viewers among other things

>>40011435
What the point in advertising to an audience that won't watch them?

>>40009938
13-18 win for nijisanji, hololive is dead

>>40009938
And just like that, another holo gold, another holo year. Akiome holochad!

>>40011258
Number begets numbers
If they can get a portion of male holofags to watch their homos too, they'd have more chance to attracting new female audience.
It's still fucked up that they thought the Girls wouldn't be hurt by it though , or they knew but did so anyway

>>40011492
>dodged the magical girl wand
>shit-eating grin
Based Mikochi

>>40011258
No one except some angry incels actually cares. They have nothing to lose putting them on big events with the girls, its just more eyes on them

>>40011435
>cover did the math

>>40011484
they won't stop unless it hurts their bottom line anon, no matter how much naysayers seethe here. expect more stars promotion in the future

>>40011525
They read Twitter and reddit for market research

>stellar stellar
Based

Ru-chan was /here/. Who scared her off?

>>40011532
>>40011435
I mean, they're clearly not inclining at all. Not one fucking bit. 0 incline. No improvement.

>>40011565
Show tits

>>40010677
there is a little of post in your cope anon

>>40011602
>he thinks CCV is relevant
They're selling out merch and concerts despite getting less money put into them by Cover

>>40011573
Oh no i welcome more stars promotion since more promotion like what they did in that reddit post earlier will mean more pushback and stars antis and less people qualified people applying for stars which will stunt and kill any hope of growth.

>>40011565
>le incels
snap back to reality anon, we're talking about Stars/Holo JP here. they won't be daunted by your le incel reddit trannie speech and they have in fact really bothered StarsJP with their incel rage before

>>40011598
I wonder which ESL she was.

>>40011484
Anon, at least they're still better than "people" /here/

HOLY FUCK!
>the stars "dead zone" is around 50k
See pic related. The stream grew more or less at the same pace before and after the Stars showed up, except for the MASSIVE stall during

>>40011435
>annoyed fanbase
you meant the psyops sis?

>>40011435

Oh shit he is going to play 3:12 in two minutes isn't he

>>40011653
>t-trust me they're improving in these invisible metric
ogey. and I bet you have evidence its because they got shilled alongside hololive in the 2022 NYE stream too, or because they didn't get overlapped during 3d debuts

>>40011598
Me>>3241343

It's a new year. Can you schizos at least stop timelooping and falseflagging? Like seriously. Unironically improve yourself sisters

>>40011598
kek she really cares that much about what people are saying about her huh

>>40011706
And it only "stalled" because homos were on screen with girls. Imagine if it was JUST homos, in a completely merged concert.

>>40011653
Nah theyre getting more money put into them by Cover which is why they are getting and using the INNK studio.
Stars is basically the WNBA where they only get enough money for a minimal loss or even at best and need the infusion from NBA/Hololive in order to be relevant.
They also suffer the fate because like the WNBA, Holostars is just plain boring and unentertaining.

>>40011307
>spend money/vtuber
They don't have to. How many daily/general goods or services do you think are being shilled by KPop stars on Asia anon? It's a billion USD advertising market.
If sharts can get a fraction of a fraction of that, they'd probably being more money than the girls.
Which is also why Anycolor is gunning for that audience now

>>40011258
By building their own brand i guess? First thing a new Hololive viewer see from them are a bunch of 3 view faggot from the biggest agency instead of some underdog from a small agency. Pretty sure that was how BTS build their rep too, i heard from my sis that their company was like indie from Kpop world.

>>40011706
So you're telling me that the people who tabbed out were JUST enough to offset the people who joined in?
Sounds awfully NOT something like "majority" to me

>>40011598
I'm surprised she managed to solve the Captcha tbqh

>>40011812
>If sharts can get a fraction of a fraction of that, they'd probably being more money than the girls.
>if
but. they're.not
And they most certainly won't tap into that market via invading hololive's.

>>40011706
You guys are sad.

>>40011706
>assuming a linear projection based on small parts of a non linear function
that's retarded anon
but yeah the Stars killed the growth completely, it was pretty funny watching it happen live

>>40011706
Could have beaten NJU without the homos.

>>40011812
>If sharts can get a fraction of a fraction of that, they'd probably being more money than the girls.
But in this universe they aren't because KPop stars exist, Nijisanji livers exist, Hal and Reid exist and Holostars are the lowest ranked corporate full male branch out of all corpos.

>>40010119
If Cover really wants to abandon their female idol niche and chasing after Nijisanji model then there are many would be happy to fill this niche they left behind. I'm curious how they going to compete with Nijisanji in the same sphere and who is gonna taking over /cgdct/ market in the future. Everything is possible desu.

>>40011812
Anon that why is said that
> women spend more than males if we are just looking in between 13-19 years old population
because thats the biggest age group that kpop has and why they outspend men in the same age group. But after that age group men outspend them due to the sheer number and spending capital that they have.

>>40009684
Kuzuha's average exceeds the entirety of Niji EN combined. With Holo EN's inactive members right now, he contests or beats that division too.

>>40011706
It would have inclined to the full human population of the planet if not for the Stars.

>>40011706
the fact that it didn't recline like before, it's a positive sign that hololive fans start to accept them

>>40011965
Cover is abadoning their model in order to chase the Nijisanji model
Nijisanji is also abandoning their model in order to chase the Cover model.

>>40011965
>who is gonna taking over /cgdct/ market in the future.
Maybe come back in like ... 5 more years, then maybe we can find out
As for now, no one has been succeeding so far, from both EN/JP, even with all the suppose "Shooting in the foot" cover is doing

>>40011840
>majority
I have zero fucking idea of what do you mean by "majority" but I can assume you are debating some strawman in your head unconnected to the point being made

>>40011880
That's obviously a rough estimate but think about it: it grew at the same pace before and after, isn't it a logical conclusion that it would grow at the approx same pace in the middle?

The thing is: this is a "time limited" event that would "expire" at midnight. I have no doubt it would have much higher peak with the show starting 30 min earlier and the homos put earlier than 10 min to midnight

>>40011986
>Kuzuha's average exceeds the entirety of Niji EN combined. With Holo EN's inactive members right now, he contests or beats that division too
Anon...what do you fucking think Kuzuha's average is? Because this is most certainly not true or you don't understand what you're typing. No single vtuber's combined average beats NijiEN/HoloEN's.

>>40009684
They have plenty of exposure, maybe they just aren't very good streamers.

Is there anything more pathetic than ENsharts whining about holoX?

>>40012126
purely organic btw

>>40012126
holox is a failure, but we already know that

>Omigad Britney, they're totally fucking now cause they sang together
I'm halfway through my rum bottle and this the funniest shit all thread. You guys are alright sometimes

>>40011598
months late anon

>>40012154
How many gift cards would this earn?

>>40012126
yes, being a mentally ill koyofag that keeps spamming this kind of shit for a year and will keep doing it for 2023 too

>>40012180
Who the fuck are you even quoting? Skimming the thread has zero mentions to that, only to the fact trying to force homos into the girls show is detrimental to both the homos themselves and the girls

>>40012180
Wrong thread, sister?

>>40012180
>I'm halfway through my rum bottle
I noticed, you should slow down because that isn't not the thing that is being discussed

>>40011896
It would've helped, but you'd still need the Miko and/or Suisei watchalong to fail for whatever reason to funnel viewers to the main channel to get 240k+

So instead of bitching about males for for goerilionth time why can't we talk about how creative and fun the actual concert was?

>>40011969
>spending capital
We're talking about advertisement capital here anon.
It's not relevant if males has more money but they spend most of it on cars and computer parts, stuff that doesn't need much advertisement to begin with as it's mostly a rational purchase.
Female on any age group are more valuable in terms of advertisement money because they can sell them any sort of bullshit, and this is especially so on asian social culture.
Cover is still retarded for pushing holofans to the homos, but they have a reasonable interest to do so.

>>40012250
>that isn't not the thing that is being discussed

>>40011706
Hololive CHADS ?!?!

>>40012126
You posting about EN for no reason comes close, yeah.

No matter how much you losers seethe stars are here to stay the fact that they already have both a new jp gen and en gen on the way is proof that their doing great. Plus in covercrop eyes stars are worth more than both holo id and en when it comes to profit . Hololive knows that themself due to having no en/id merch at comiket because it won't sale but stars merch would. That all the proof that we need that shows stars are doing great and their only getting more popular every day so no matter how much people shits on them there worth more than both id and en

>>40012273
This is the numbers thread. At least the homo bitching is done under the veneer of long term numbers. Phrase something about how fun the concert was in the context of numbers.

>>40012287
Yeah i'm drunk as well, but at least i don't hallucinate something that isn't being talked about

>>40012273
wrong thread for that

>>40012221
pretty sure that's the guy that pretends to be a luifag or a plusmate sometimes

>>40010466
This is probably from reddit but the best thing they could do for themselves is separate as much as possible from Hololive so they aren't seen as pathetic leeches. They aren't getting in the Holobox and every attempt from upper management to force the issue just pisses off the Holobox.

>>40012008
>before
past streams doesn't have tons of new viewers pouring in for the incoming countdown that offsets the drop anon.
The entire point of that image is to visualize that

>>40012302
ogey sis, how much have you drank? Tits?

>mori
Ew

>>40012180
Don't worry, there will be more of that this year I bet *sigh*

>>40012180
>>40012331
happy new year drunk bros. here's to another year of timeloops

>Mori on mogra
damn pink woman is really popular in Japan

>>40012385
Inotaku made this song

drunk or esl would be a fun game to play with some posts

>>40012065
I dunno, isn't it 14k ish? Last I checked, NijiEN combined CCV average orbits the 10-12k mark and only pokes above that if there's buff content. And I'm pretty sure Kuzuha's peaks are still higher than post-Summer NijiEN, if admittedly less frequent.

>>40012366
>separate as much as possible from Hololive
Why? Tempus is by far the best Stars gen ever numbers-wise

>>40012440
I wish he didn't

>>40012347
see >>40011102
he's also the one that keeps spamming numbers (mainly fellating to streamed hours) in global

>>40012302
You started laying it on a bit thick when you said they make more profit than holos, anon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95UjUhxgIes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95UjUhxgIes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95UjUhxgIes
My faint attempt to save the thread from timelooping star for the morbillion times
>idolEN audition
This is the one from Israel, right? Didn't they JUST released an EN gen?

>>40012440
That doesn't mean he has to play it

>>40012493
ACCELERATE

>>40012493
my eelwife needs a kouhai

>>40012180
>Omigad Britney, they're totally fucking now cause they sang together
Oh shit gurl, I'm gonna tell everyone on the catalog.

>>40011172
I hope this costume swapping becomes a thing and Watame can keep wearing skimpy clothing from other holomembers

>>40012493
The HE branch is still having people graduate and their EN branch actually did better than i think most expected so they're probably going all in

>>40012493
IdolEN is a veritable success for a new corp they want to dig their claws in deeper while they have somewhat of a foothold maybe claw at the declining holoEN box a bit

>>40010239
Yep, true 1st army are Pekroa, Miko, Subaru, Marine, Aqua, and Suisei.

>>40012493
*Contrived post about how HoloEN is doomed as the talent pool is getting more and more diluted and how it's too late for EN3 to debut*

t. Nijinigger

>>40011706
Thanks YAGOO.
Very cool.

>>40012556
Based drunk anon CHEEERS!

>>40011598
So she was one of those Rushia-did-nothing-wrong schizos, huh...?

Unicorn fags got btfo so bad, they are doing mental gymnastics to come up with reasons to shit on Holostars.
Fags, either accept this is Hololive(where they would rather pander to 170k people watching and enjoying than to 1-2k who dropped out) or get out of the Hololive and find a different vtuber company

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIzQmoz1bE4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIzQmoz1bE4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIzQmoz1bE4

On a less interesting news
>Kobo and Ollie sang the sexbot song
This is on her channel, so I expect better numbers
But again, JP cover ...

ALSO
Threw back to one of the greatest shitpost of 2022, that's 1 item completed

>hololive 1 million views in 3 hours
is it trending on JPYoutube?

>>40012643
Tits?

>>40012464
go back to global

So yea 1 mil. It's doing ok i guess.

>>40012464
EN is dead, cope shart

>>40012520
>Wants Holo model
>Implements Niji strats
What do they mean by this ...

>>40012643
t. wine aunt

>>40012660
NY outfits left

>>40011172
God I wish.

>>40012452
>Last I checked, NijiEN combined CCV average
That's not "entirety of Niji EN combined" mate

>>40012660
We have new ammo, the shiraken leak

>>40012713
If they slow down after getting enough members we might finally see what a middle ground between the two extremes would look like

>>40012066
Some of them are OK enough. Still there're thousand more OK male Vtuber out there in Nip land, and they have nothing to stand out. They collab with everyone like they're indies, and just like indies, their view won't remember them, cuz indies are too spread out. They are advertised as idol, but damm it's hard to take their journey part seriously when they started by leeching

>>40012700
it trended?

>>40012686
>>40012716
seethe unicorn seethe

>>40012799
relax princess

>>40012556
I mean ...
>>40003339

>>40012799
Don't you have tits?

>>40012748
A literally dying stream (ended now) out of usual timeslot still beat all NijiEN's streams including Enna's...
And Kotoka, stop...

>>40012748
So is this what sparked the IRyS nepotism argument last thread

It's always fun watching /a/ went into meltdown every time vtuber's song played at Mogra.

>>40012643
You're still not getting homo collabs outside of the whores who already collab with them.

>>40012606
Seems more like PC, Kawaii, and Idol are pushing Tsunderia and Prism out to pasture.

>>40012826
>uuuuu, little boy got hurt that his agenda didnt work.

>>40012862
>IRyS nepotism
Wut? That's one ancient shitpost. Haven't heard about it for like a year or so

Lmao she is finally done

>>40012799
do you even know what a unicorn is? you actually think anyone in fucking /#/ is a unicorn? in /#/ really?

>>40012876
Just like how unicorns don't want Hololive and Holostars mixing, they don't want Anison and Vtuber mixing too.

>>40012924
>>40012835

>>40012792
No a bunch of much weaker shit is trending but I don't see it on the list. That's just normal viewer/tourists.

>>40012879
who cares, I will watch both and sip your tears

Did they buff chickens ass

>>40012748
Why are nijis doing random shitty game streams for today instead of actual new years shit. What psychopath wants to spend their New years watching a nigga play botw lmao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiXkMo2hmoY
Lol, self cucking unicorns lose forever.

You guys think these "seethe unicorn I love homos" posters are just baiters or a new breed of poster drawn to /vt/?

>>40012924
what are you talking about?
momentum was killed during that segment of the stream.
it wasn't kino bb

The sisters are literally punching air right now and think they are winning

>>40012923
Yeah someone brought up IRyS being nepo'd in out of nowhere and of course it was in conjunction to Kiara(a nijispy)

>>40012923
It's just the usual ennacuck

>>40012876
/a/ are full of unicorn. Of course they won't like vtuber song.

>>40012876
can't wait for r/a/dio tonight

>>40011706
i understand that you are just shitposting and i understand that people didn't want stars on stage, but why are you crying over CCV? if you are crying due to the lacking of it then try getting mad at the girls who were doing a mirror watchalong?
no, i don't need your (you)

>>40011463
StarsEN2 IKZ!

>>40012993
Because NJU bro…That is their New Year program

>>40013052
Please drop the link here later

>anons ITT actually think it's a woman.
cmon guys... you will find women literally in any other board than here unless they are vtubers themselves which most of the time, they are indies

>>40012905
Just Pippa and Tenma's combined audience today is higher than all small EN corpo's audience a year ago.
They're pulling in way more viewers than just from the other corpos.

Where are the fucking lewds? Just post any holo's lewds

>>40013021
no. they absolutely have no angle to work with so they throw whatever blended buzzword there is in hopes that someone bites. the people are too drunk, retarded and happy to get mad right now

This guy who's spamming about unicorns on cooldown is the same fucking faggot who was doing this shit about NijiEN months ago. I choose to believe this because it'd be sad to think there's two people this schizo, let alone two spending NYE doing this shit.

>>40012963
Unicorn is kind of spectrum but there are 100% people here that fit into that box. That won't watch male vtubers and don't want the vtubers they like to have anything to do with male vtubers. Unicorns, even if they're a clear minority, are still a substantial part of this board's population.

>>40013021
doesn't matter. it's a guaranteed (You) everytime

>>40013056
>Shifting the blame to the girls who had a watchalong from the start

>>40012065
I don't count vtubers who don't stream.

>>40013056
Those girls weren't in the wrong for wanting to spend some time at new years eve with their chat

>>40011463
timestamp ?

>>40013087
Nah I don’t know any man who unironically type “teehee” and “kween” in their argument

>>40012493
That's the correct move. Phase already got their share of the vagabond whores that is the current state of HoloEN.
Hololive was also born out of collapsed corpos, full of yabs and terrible "talents", it's most right that one of their branches dies the same way.

Also, Koyo one more time showing the reason she inclined so hard compared to the other HoloX members post Laplus yabs.

>>40013143
are you retarded teehee

>>40013095
What kind of people watch Tenma? Is it partially Japanese? I've tried a few times and she's way too ESL for me. Doesn't seem like it's the same audience that watches Pippa.

>>40013108
is this lewd enough?

>>40012180
People who drink alcohol are retarded

>>40013143
shitposters who are acting

>>40013084
NJU doesn't prevent Fungus or Enna from doing a fun drinking stream or some shit as opposed to these boring games

>>40013112
Not watching male vtubers doesn't make me a unicorn, retard. I simply have no reason to watch anime pretty boy streamers because when I watch streamers, I filter them by games streamed, mostly. Hololive provided something else, a female content creator perspective I found cute, so I watched that. It has nothing to with me thinking they're good streamers, they're not, and I don't need some uWu ASMR voiced retard's take on games.

>>40013108
ill post mine then

>>40013197
I love this koyote

>>40013087
Nah Niji threads actually do get some women posting in them. Not a ton but there's definitely women here
also the pick me comments are exclusively made by women

>>40013095
I think the YT algo change worked wonders for the small corpos and indies
All those YT recommendations that used to go to holos (and nijis) being redirected to either less popular chuubas or random unrelated shit

>>40013242
Not sure what you're even talking about.

>>40013021
they are redditors that went mad after the sticky holostars post got removed

>>40012302
That's like saying female football is doing great despite them getting funded by male football

>>40013254
hot

>>40013112
That's not a what a unicorn is.

https://idol-company.com/audition/

how much money do they have? holy shit

>>40013308
the US woman's team are the holostars of the sports world

holostars is the woman's chess league of the vtubing world

>>40012987
Yes

Loving this "I hate homos" brigade.
Clearly knowing that majority loved the HololivexHolostar performance, they will still try to deny and cant accept the reality.
Acting like typical Nijifags who cant come to terms with the lost

>>40013327
you're leprechaun

>>40013331
>jews
The question should be "how much money are they willing to spend?".

>>40013283
Nah guys have started to use pick me, because they see others using it. That's how language works. They aren't exactly using it like it was originally used, just like we don't use fujo correctly ect. They just use it to mean "any girl that tryhard panders to vt or vt-adjacent demographics".

Why is miko's reaction Vod private? What happened? Did she coom too haachama too hard or something?

>>40013392
Show tits

>>40013331
They can pump all the money in the world they want to this garbage, if they don't poach a Holo girl or e-celeb then nobody will care.

>>40013331
>>40012493
Serious question. Should we be concerned that all of these small corpos are scooping up all of the acceptable talent in the EN sphere

>>40013254

>>40013415
she leaked her discord
nothing too bad, just plans for original songs and a line stamp thing

>>40013415
males on stream

>>40013112
Unicorn to the truest sense of the phrase, refers to purityfags.
The term now gets mixed with gachikoi, cgcdt fags, misandrist, idolfags, and probably some more that people probably are referring to different things when they talk about unicorns.
The fact that it is a common phrase to be used for baiting (You) and shitposting in general also doesn't help the term to be used correctly or in good faith

>>40013434
yes

>>40013331
So this is where FTX money went.

>>40013415
>What happened?
Discord leak

>>40013422
I am a guy anon, yet I can guarantee you have bigger tits than mine burgerchama

Post your favorite lewd from 2022

>>40013291
nta but he's probably saying he does watch male streamers or youtubers but not male chuubas
I'm kinda in the same boat - I watch holos, but I also watch some old school LP youtubers that happen to be male

>>40013415
discord leak in the last thread if i remember right.

>>40013412
>t. woman

>>40013453
We are iunicorn, kjneel

>>40013122
>>40013127
holy shit shut the fuck up i told you i don't want (you)s, also i said mirror watchalong, it would be fine if it was a simple watchalong because that would mean the viewers will open another stream

>>40013392
Why are you afraid to say "nigger"?

>>40013415
Leeked Micomet discord sex

>>40013509
relax sis

>>40013513
Nta but the last time I said that I got warned.

>>40013470
Too big

>>40013112
A bit board definition for unicorn anon. If those that you described are unicorn, there'd be a hundred times more screaming from Rushia own fanbase and they would have justified the push back from retard drama nigger. When more than half of Hololive leaned on no males collab, the viewer would reflect their decision.

https://twitter.com/mgmgoi4/status/1609220407344926722
https://twitter.com/mgmgoi4/status/1609220407344926722
https://twitter.com/mgmgoi4/status/1609220407344926722

Triangle kimono

>>40013434
Probably not, chances are most of these small corpos are still sending in their applications to Hololive and Nijisanji. There's a few that probably would not bother like Pippa or Amiya who's content just wouldn't translate, as well as people like Nene and Oceane who are making a boatload of cash where they are and wouldn't want to risk it. Anyone else getting like 100-300 CCV has no reason not to apply.

>>40013509
You are still not getting it retard, the watchalongs were there form the start, how can they be responsible for the complete standstill when the homos appeared?

Azki's new idol outfits look good

>>40013467
That's not what he asked.

>>40013434
nah, if you want to make it big, you're definitely going to try to get to holo. these are rejects or people who have no aspirations to sing and dance on stage

>>40013485
Me likewise and even for Holo content. I even watched this bloke
https://www.youtube.com/@NeverNathaniel
playing Holocure even if he didn't know anything about Holos EXACTLY because he didn't know anything about Holos and it was amusing to see him trying to figure things out.
I also watched most 3D by the homos (before it the overlap mandate) and not only Astel APEX and Karaoke but also his APEX collab with the girls.

"Separated but equal", is that asking too much?

>>40013442
>>40013464
>>40013499
>>40013526
oh I see, nothing too bad then.
Is it coming back after editing or something?

>>40013558
Better?

Spend $1 to make 1¢
Spend 1¢ to make $1

Cover picks the former.

>>40013434
It depends, some of the girls might just be in the smaller corpos until they get accepted into hololive or nijisanji with a proven track record.

>>40013513
Any racism is basically ban gacha now.

>>40013434
What talent? Niji acceleration couldn't find anything better than Illuna and Xsolei (they fucking gave up and grabbed some Japanese ESLs), and EN3 still isn't a thing. The Twitch bandwagoners all ditched their rigs and went back into fleshstreaming en masse. Honestly, that's the real GRIM story here.

>>40013577
Didn't Pippa say she's not going to give up applying for holo?

>>40013645
Too big

>>40013612
i kinda prefer her black idol outfit. it makes her standout

>>40013577
Pippa was actually asked if she'd join Holo if given the chance at a con a couple months ago and she said she would. That said she'll never get accepted and she's in a good place anyway so it doesn't matter

>>40013583
you can deflect as much as you want, the reality of 170k-174k people watched the performance is more than enough to destroy your argument

>>40013645

if only all women were like Holo and kawaii girls... more men would get married. but we got a shitty nijifemoid instead.

>>40013563
>When more than half of Hololive leaned on no males collab, the viewer would reflect their decision.
Well, do >we even have the number to back up this claim?
Even from today's performance, we can see that the amount of people who chimped out was not the "Silent majority" that was promised /here/

>>40013701
You are the one deflecting to the girls.

>>40013470
heres mine

>>40013641
probably, as far as i know if you edit anything, it has to reprocess the entire thing before you can publish it so it always takes a while

>>40013686
There's zero chance she'd get past screening after openly making fun of Kiara's roommate, plus her openly talking about politics on stream.

Hololive did really well today so of course we will timeloop back to homos discussion

>>40013739
nice pekobum

>>40013691

>>40013662
>Is it coming back after editing or something?
It's not. Actually, it never changed EVER in this thread, board and site.
I said this for the longest time in this thread: there are only two rules
1) There are no rules
2) There are no rules for mods either so enjoy your ban

Sometimes people are being little shits in this thread. They get reported, some jannie skims the thread (with knowledge of who is samefagging, for instance), drop a ban or give and bails.
People think it is because of something they've said or done but it isn't. They either got reported or janny happened to land their eyes right in their nominally rule breaking post.

Oh no no no irysbros

>>40013791
its over!

>>40013783
Ignore the quoted part, it was in selected by accident

>>40013470
simple is best

>>40013791
終わりだ....

>>40013773

>>40013773
Not flat enough

>>40013553
>>40013583
oh, i understand, i fell for your bait shitposts
>>40013701
and you stfu

>>40013434
Well EN3 is probably already chosen assuming >>40011463 isn't shitposting
Hell, if you let me huff on some premium copium...
EN3 may have been recruited a while ago, but Cover decided not to debut them yet due to the triple whammy of:
- seasonal decline
- western pandemic restrictions all being rolled back
- YT shitting on holos (and njis considering the lolisex sub culls) recently

>>40013635
>"Separated but equal", is that asking too much?
Unironically yes
Riddle me this: How much "Separated" do you want? And do you think they can be "Equal"?

>>40013662
>gacha
nah, that only happens if you get reported or a janny is actively monitoring the thread. remember, there are no rules

i don't need to post a half nude photo to show how lewd my oshi is. imagine needing to wear swimsuits to make them just a sliver sexier.

>>40013860
He is shitposting, IRyS didn't say anything about it.

I can't help but notice that nijisanji stops existing the moment the homoshills invade.