/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Birthday art is flowing in!

There's definitely a lot of it today.

From Bunny_GIF

i wonder how many twitch staffers im going to find on nyans stream

>>3953831
Wondering if there's just a lot of VShojo fans that are also Twitch staff. There was someone by the name of Growl participating in Vei's RE8 finale stream for a few hours.

>>3953865
And yet there is still no vtuber search keyword. C'mon Twitch!

I swear powerwash simulator is a perfect game for nyanners.

>>3953887
they can't do it until they manage to get "vstreamer" to catch on

>>3953924
You mean Nyanders. Selfish bitch won't let her clone play.

>>3953947
I chortled during the recent Coco clip that made the rounds talking about how she's friends with Melody but doesn't know many of the other VShojo girls. She was commenting on whether to call them "Vtubers" since they're not on YouTube. Twitch has been trying to get that V-streamer thing to stick for a while but nobody is biting.

>>3953865
maybe.. its weird that they participate officially which makes it feel like they are doing it at their job instead of free time. growl is the other one i have seen

>>3953924
seems to be. its nice to see her be so happy while playing something

>>3953624
Wait, if the little one is Zen, who's the big one?

>>3953831
she has like two or three among her regulars

>>3954021
Why can't Twitch understand that "Vstreamer" will never catch on? We all know what V-tuber REALLY means.

>>3954153
They're both Zen I guess. I think maybe the artist just really wanted to draw both versions of Zen. Either that or crying Zen is Zen's mother, which has been a subject of a few fanarts lately.

>>3954253
im actually surprised to see them behave like this. i thought that they have strict rules on the platform but they seem to have no problems with stretching the rules a bit

aside from the Vtuber community being bad, i do think there is a problem with Vtuber agencies being lazy and choosing to put scantily clad characters/ jiggly boobs in their streams so they can use the sex appeal to attract viewers. I think it does alienate some viewers. It alienates people who are female and are embarrassed that their gender is portrayed in such a way, and alienates people who just want to watch a fun stream without titties bouncing everywhere, it can be insulting because it’s like the Vtubers think you NEED to see sexy stuff to be interested in them. Vtubers that are dedicated to just being fanservice titty-fests like Project Melody and Silvervale are silly, though I won’t say that they shouldn’t be allowed to exist, I mean if people want to watch titty bouncing then that’s just their preference for the kind of media they enjoy (I cant imagine what that must be like), I only have a problem with it when they try to argue that these Vtubers are in any way good or entertaining outside of the sex appeal, lol. I just think it’s kinda dumb to inject needless sex appeal into every form of media. Especially when it’s shoved into streams that are otherwise…uh, normal and fun because they have cool content I guess? like when Hime Hajime was made and they totally ruined the character by turning her into a weirdly sexualized caricature. They were just trying to make more money and the Vtuber seemed like a soulless husk compared to Hololive Vtubers. Everyone remember’s Callis’s big boobs and how she shows them off when she zooms in and I never cared about that because it didn’t detract from the rest of the stream at all, I still appreciated Calli as a character and thought she was cool. Actual thought and effort was put into making her an interesting Vtuber, and the titty is just an afterthought, as it should be if it absolutely needs to be in a stream. But a lot of Vtubers seem to go overboard with fanservice and it can be mind-numbing. They often use it as a crutch because the rest of the stream isn’t good so they have to make up for it by going “HEY LOOK TITTIES AND PANTIES!!!” (vshojo) do I think it’s because the agencies hate women??? not at all, but I do think it’s because they’re lazy as fuck and can’t put effort into making something more creative and interesting without resorting to flashing SEXY TITTY!!! BONER!!!! ARE U CUMMING YET!! everywhere.
anyway that concludes my rant on sexualization in Vtubing, sex is cool and all but I can live without it being pushed in my face at all times

Don't fall for it lads.

>>3954483
Holofag here
Go back and take your meds

>>3954483
too much text

So much falseflagging in these threads lately

>>3954695
Nah, that's the old Nyan-shitter. He's been around for a while. He is, of course, referring to things that are not related to Nyanners streams or content and is instead talking about IRL stuff, so you know what to do.

>>3954596
Me>>3954582
tl;dr:
>SJW Nyanners: Gratuitous sexualization in media bad, alienates wahmen and panders only to coomers
>Vtuber Nyanners: Cum Sex Vagina

>>3953865
These kinda Twitch staff are just chatters that got accepted as janitors. It's a oretty normal sight, especially for bigger channels like Bahroo's.

>>3954771
women just are like that. they say dumb shit but they don't really even know what they are talking about. if they think that it will make the audience happy they will say it

>>3954433
i mean they arent apart of the moderator team from what i understand

i am kind of interested in alogging nyanners but to my disappointment i found out that kiwifarms closed her cow thread due to lack of interesting content years ago. is she just good at hiding her dirty laundry or whats up with her?

>Mouse saying happy birthday to connor then cooming
Is there context to this I'm missing?

>>3955114
There wasn't any really, except it wasn't his birthday and he tried to pull that prank twice. Maybe he complained offstream about the times she made sexual sounds while medicated during their collabs so she responded to his prank in this fashion? Or she was flirting. Who knows?

>>3954483
Thinking better, you have a point
Anyway, still go back

I am seriously sitting here watching a deranged pink cat girl trying to push a soccer ball up a slide in a powerwash simulator game.

>>3955569
lost 4010 cringe coins on that shit

i should've believed...

what happens if the simp train is successful? does the streamer get some bonus compensation for it?

>>3956185
the chat gets 3 unique twitch emotes to use during the stream.

>>3954153
Her mother

>>3956283
so no extra stuff for the streamer?

>>3956429
no

>>3956460
ok so simp bait then. also wtf can i do with the sub

>>3956732
It is intended to provoke the watchers into supporting the streamer yes. As for what you do with a sub, you get to avoid ads, also you get to use the channel emotes.

>>3956732
You can view all the emotes in chat or just see them all nice and convenient here https://twitchemotes.com/channels/82350088.. Everybody's got cute emotes and Nyan recently said her favorite of hers is NyannSNIFF

>>3956947
ok.. guess thats nice for the chromium even if theres just one short ad

>>3957450
I forgot that some streamers, Mousey for example, do a "sub movie night" on Discord. So you have to be a subscriber and sign up for it and you can be part of it. I haven't done one before so I don't know what goes on there.

>>3958285
sounds nice but idk if i want to get that into this stuff. i try to avoid that social media stuff...

>>3956185
>no dark theme

>>3958754
then enjoy the emotes bud. or don't if you don't like chatting. i hardly ever chat and don 't use their discords but i'm still subbed to snuffy and mouse cause i wanna support them

>>3958285
In her case you just watch the movie and chat in the accompanying text channel. Mousey doesn't give audio commentary, she just chats with the rest of us. She really likes Nicolas Cage movies.

>>3958914
i used to have on firefox but it was so broken that i decided to try chromium and google disabled it for me because using a dark theme as a non black person would be racism which they claim to not support

>>3956732
Also if you have a twitch sub and join nyanners' discord you get to use the sub only channels and attend movie nights and stuff

>>3959152
will try to. im not really a good chatter but i can do few lines once in a while

>>3960527
im not sure if i can do it. its going to be full of rich normie chads and i would not know what to do there because i have nothing in common with such people so it would just feel really weird to look at them talk about things that i don't understand or care about

>>3960867
>m not sure if i can do it
Do what you want. That said, the large amount of gifted subs going around means that a pretty good cross section of her fans have subs outside of the type you mention. I consider it worth it to have made a discord account for this.

>>3961175
you make it sound like im missing something..

>>3961527
Not that much really, just the occasional sub only stream. They're not normally full streams, just a watch along or when she's already playing a game and streams it with minimal commentary.

Projekt Melody is live! https://www.twitch.tv/projektmelody

This is what happens when a full mocap 3D streamer decides to do the "feet on table" meme.

>>3960416
Just get BTTV for chromium (if it exists) and you should be able to auto dark theme every time.

>>3961675
ok.. i just think that my autism will get me banned really quickly if i have to participate in anything on there. these platforms have mods that will show no mercy if you don't follow the script to the letter

>>3961803
i don't really care about her but i have to admit that this looks nice

>>3960867
>its going to be full of rich normie chads
Uh, thanks? But I think you have a pretty high opinion of Twitch audience members. I know quite a few people sub on their own but a lot of them were gifted subs, too. I mean Mousey has 13k subs and about 7-8k watchers, so 5k of those subs are going to people who don't regularly watch her. Is what it is.

>>3962162
Just sayin', them legs ain't PNGs. Tho they might be PNGing something amirite?

>>3962527
these people throw away many thousands every month. what else would that kind of people be? one does not get that kind of money without some great social skills

>>3962703
she has what feels like a chain smoker voice and that bothers me a bit. it just does not give the comfy cute feel that nyanners does

>>3960867
Most of us here don't have much in common outside of our waifus but look at what we have here. Try starting off with that and going from there if you want to. It's also fine if you're not comfortable with chatting. I'm sure a lot of us would understand.

Why did the artists give this design to a man

All those rich tier 1 subs throwing around $5 in their Discord mansions.

>>3963066
>Nyanshit
>comfy
ok let me make you feel even more comfortable: PISS POOP PEE PEE COCK BARF FARTS FARTS FARTS SHIT TOILET TOILET FECES

>>3963066
I wanna meet the kind of chain smokers you know.

>>3963410
the level does not really mean anything. you can sub for 100 years right now if you want to. at best it just makes counting the amount of donated money a bit harder

>>3963744
theres sometimes a little bit too much of that but most of the time its just cute talk and i like that kind of stuff

>>3962910
I would be careful with that line of thought. I know of at least one example from... Silvervale, if I recall right... chat who got upset that he was donating everything to her to the point where he was now homeless. Needless to say it upset the shit out of her that someone did that.

So, yeah, some of these guys may be rich. Some may just be comfortable living but have nobody or nothing to spend money on so they blow it on streamers. Some may just be obsessed nitwits working dead-end jobs and needing to reprioritize their shit.

Then there's a lot of people who don't do any of that. They just watch. I would say that of the active viewers that each streamer has, less than 10% donate anything. 90% just watch and get gifted subs.

>>3960416
Wait there are still people who do not use Brave?

>>3964004
Being disgusting and shrieking are her only material.
The rest is just her watching stolen content and going "oh look at that..."

>>3963841
They just introduced regional pricing for Mexico and Turkey

Mexicans pay 48 pesos ($2.40) now
Turkey is like $1.25

It started 8 hours ago.

>>3964032
sometimes i wonder why the streamers get so excited about a $100 donation when they already have billions from previous donations. after the millionth time it should not feel like anything anymore

>>3964596
It still probably feels weird that people are just giving you money.

>>3964303
does this mean that the streamer also gets paid less without warning?

>>3964596
Unless you're rich, like really rich, getting $100 all at once is still exciting.

>>3964746
are you trying to say that the vshojo performers are not? they all should be multimillionaires at this point

>>3964893
You're either joking or way overestimating their revenue and also the length of time they've been making their current level of money.

Just remembering in the last thread I said that Mouse should agreed upon as the most degen of the group and 10 minutes into this collab and she's already discussing the logistics of mpreg and how they should give birth through the cock instead of the ass, and how the pink panther uses his tail as a second dick

>>3964596
"Imposter syndrome". As much as you would think so, they often question their own value in why people throw money at them like this. The other side of the coin is that when you're getting 100 $1 donations, it kind of sneaks up on you and it doesn't come always from one person. $100 from 1 person is a big singular donation that gets noticed. It's like eating 100 pieces of M & Ms or eating 1 big piece of M & M made from 100 pieces. You just kind of notice the size and the weight of it when it is in front of you like that.

I have yet to see any of the VShojos not react to big donations in a surprised and believable fashion. Even Melody, who makes hundreds of thousands of dollars a month between Twitch and Chatturbate, cannot handle it when someone donates 100 subs. And, if they ever lost those feelings, I think I would stop watching them. There's something necessary about the humility they still have, even if it is borne from a mental disorder of not thinking they're worthy.

>>3964966
didn't someone say that many of these have been in the industry as long as it has existed? they get hundreds to thousands dollars on every stream and they have been doing it for years so the estimate feels very realistic to me

>>3964893
They're almost certainly comfortably wealthy, but they're definitely not rich. When you have "fuck you" money, you're rich. Only the very top Twitch streams have "fuck you" money.

>>3965032
Dumb demon you don't impregnate a "cockpussy"

>>3964687
The streamer would still get, minimum 50:50 of that, but they would not be getting as much. Still, it makes sense if the regional economies aren't the same then taking less, and building up a strong fanbase in those regions, is a good idea.

>>3965032
And just like that I'm abandoning Mel and watching Zen's birthday collab. I love Mel, but you can't compare to Mousey's weird shit.

>>3965138
>didn't someone say that many of these have been in the industry as long as it has existed?
Nyanners has been doing this for 10 years, maybe by 2019 she was actually seeing a profit. Ironmouse has been streaming since 2016 I think and before 2020 she had about 1000 followers. Note not subs, followers.

>>3965138
>>3965351
I mean "this" in a general sense. She's been trying to be an anime for 10 years I mean.

>>3964687
They're doing some kind of program to make up for initial losses but it's being done in phases. If they become popular enough it's just a brief plateau in growth.

>>3965091
maybe its just my autism again. i don't understand how people can ever have so intense reactions about so small things and the same would apply to donating a mere $100 to a rich person

>>3965540
Twitch takes 50% then they have to pay taxes on their 50% (pretty sure Amazon figured out a way to not pay on their cut)

i watch and immediately someone comes and tells this kind of stuff like the vtubers were their therapist :D

Mom said i should try to make friends. Most friends have common things the like right? Okay I'll start. I want to fuck veibae

>>3965540
Well, I don't rightly know, honestly. These girls have received some big donations and every time they get one it shocks the shit out of them. I don't think it is "I have a lot so what's a little more" but more of the "this person gave up a lot of their money". So, it isn't the receiving, but the meaning of someone giving up their money that makes it more impactful.

>>3965540
>a mere $100
Because you have to get really out of touch to ever consider $100 a small amount. Especially when you were not born rich.

>>3965618
Depends on the dono. For subs, they take a 50:50 split for most streamers, but more popular streamers (like Silvervale and above) can negotiate better rates, like 60 or 70% for themselves. For bit donations, Twitch sells bits to the viewers so Twitch takes their cut on the sale of the bits; bits donated to the streamer go 1 for 1 to the streamer. For direct dollar donations, the streamer gets all of it (Twitch takes no cuts).

>>3966136
This too, people voluntarily paying for internet content will always blow me away despite the fact that I pay for a sub and therefore am one of them.

>>3965976
You, I like you.

>>3966307
Thanks, im going to go tell my mom i made a friend

Silvervale schedule out! Does anybody know what the hell she's doing with Froot on Friday? Viscera Cleanup Detail? Their last collab was all kinds of cute and comfy, so I'm looking forward to it.

>>3966223
seems to happen quite often when you suddenly have access to basically unlimited money. it surprises me that it has not gone in the head of any of them

>>3966238
why do they do it this way? the independent people would need the money much more but one that already is very successful is not going to feel anything if they get a couple thousands more

>>3966615
Umm comrade are you trying to redistribute wealth?

>>3966615
>why do they do it this way?
Because they can, why bother giving people more money if those people aren't big or famous enough to maybe hurt you? It's an asshole strategy but its business.

>>3966517
I would not say they aren't impacted by the amounts they get. Mousey knows for sure that her improved financial situation is helping her out with more / better medicines and so her appreciation to everybody is heartfelt and genuine. Silvervale talks about how she's now able to give her family everything they've wanted and she knows it is because of her supporters and so she always expresses her gratitude, too. Zen gets to the point with donations where she has to tell her audience to stop because they've given too much.

They're human beans, many of them not from wealth, and they all still think that any minute everything could end for them and they're back to being where they were before. They all talk about how worried they are that people will suddenly find them boring and walk away. So, they're grounded in reality.

>>3966470
Viscera Cleanup Detail's a co op game where you clean up the aftermath of extremely violent video games. Very chill calm game. Don't know how entertaining it would be for a stream but it's definitely something that doesn't require a ton of effort.

>>3966675
i know that its impossible but i do definitely believe that everyone should be able to get the same amount of currency. one person having the majority of the worlds wealth just isn't right when most people have to live with much much less

>>3966615
The only thing different with popularity is the subs thing, and I would say that it is a give and take arrangement. A more popular streamer can get more subs, more views, and that brings more people to Twitch. So Twitch benefits more from the popular streamers than the smaller ones. Bits and direct donors are the same regardless if you're a big streamer or not. Also why not benefit smaller streamers more? Two reasons: there are a shit ton more of them and a shit ton more of them quit before getting anywhere. Why bother investing in people who may not stick around?

NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA ZEN-WEN-YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Mel is joining the Zen birthday collab

Melody is joining the madness!

this is getting scary.. im starting to find unknown independent vtubers that i like. one im watching has single digit viewers rn but its so comfy...

>>3968035
>>3955288

>>3966470
How far is she in skyrim?

>>3968099
I have no fucking idea. She has 500+ mods installed and has mostly been doing a mix of major side quests and the mod quests.

Bunny is a Texan all right.

>>3968071
yeh but its the cute pink cat that got me interested in this stuff

Nyan Mouse and Froot all returning to monke while Zen plays the clip of Melody barefoot >>3961803

>>3968706
Hey, all are welcome here, but try to stay on topic. Smaller streamer love is nice and all, especially during a Mousey deep dive, but if they're not relevant here they're just not. Sorry bruh. No hate, just gotta keep the place focused.

>>3968812
would be nice if the board wasn't split in so many pieces. its like everyone is in their own gated communities with armed guards at the borders even if we all are here for the same reason in the end

>>3969191
That's why I welcome everybody here. If you're a holobro, a nijibro, indiebros, you're all welcome to come hang out and talk even if you don't like any VShojo+ at all.

Vei about to join the party too. Turned into a pretty big collab. Zen + Nyan + Froot + Mouse + Vei + Mel

Oh shit Veibae is joining this circus! That just leaves Silver and Hime!

>>3969768
sounds nice.. i might actually have to watch the recording then. originally i put it on only because i heard that nyan was going to be there

>>3968035
Off topic, but what's their name?

>>3954483

>>3969895
idk if it would be a good idea to say that here

Hold on a fuck! Did Mori Calliope actually come into Zen's channel?!

>>3971562
It wasn't her. Apparently Mousey can tell.

>>3971562
Oh nope. Not the real thing. Humorously, it was Ironmouse who confirmed it was not her. Mousey knows them pink haired girls well.

>>3971562
two different people claming to be mori in zen's chat.

>>3971672
Yeah, isn't that interesting? I know they're friends and talk on Twitter, but I find it interesting that Mouse would know what Mori's Twitch name is immediately, assuming she has one.

>>3954814
>These kinda Twitch staff are just chatters that got accepted as janitors.
So they do it for free?

>>3971765
well mousie does say pink haired girls do get along together. [but seriously sounds like either a) at the very least EN [and a few others] might be looking into twitch or b) secret sock puppets.

>>3971915
I think Twitch jannies actually get paid

LOL Zen insulting Veibae during this shooting minigame calling her an "APEX player!"

Zen is a male intruding on the beautiful untouched flower field of my vshojos

>>3976978
Looks female to me.

Silvervale is live! https://www.twitch.tv/silvervale

Daddy Todd Howard requires that she play Skyrim at least once a week, so here she goes with 500+ mods attached. Last time I think she was doing the magic school stuff, so let's see where she goes today.

>>3976978

>>3976978
proof?

>>3976978
that's why (s)he's so entertaining

>>3976978
>untouched
Kek, well, leaving the fact that he is a man aside, the dude is kinda entertaining

>>3976978
Male or not, and nobody knows for sure so might as well not worry about it, this video shows that it doesn't matter. She's loved by her friends and her community.

Silver is gushing about something called Ashes of Creation, which I guess she was under an NDA not to talk about until now.

>>3979371
an mmo with a dynamic world structure whs story is built by the players
however the fuck that works out its 2021 anything can happen

Zen's stream was great and the finale was very emotional. Haven't felt that much since Mouse's birthday stream. Anyway Froot sang Happy Birthday for Zen too https://twitter.com/LichVtuber/status/1395609042521821184

It's a long shot, but you any of you know which of these https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzDJ6vpUcDViKoFTryBxQlQ/videos has the bit of Mouse talking about different movies in a series, describing one with just weird mouth noises?

>>3979522
She watched a video where they talked about how the cities will be built by the players via some progression system. But what happens after that is done? FF14 and other games have done progression systems, and they end up being rushed to completion by a lot of dedicated folks and then it's done and over with and if you didn't participate you missed it.

>>3980487
I don't remember this. What movies was she talking about?

Nyanners and Melody haven't collaborated since, what, 2020?
Trouble in paradise?

>>3981955
Have they ever had a duo collab? If you count any collab period then they literally collabed just today. All of VShojo was at Zen's birthday party except for Silver and Hime.

>>3982437
>Have they ever had a duo collab?
They also haven't done anything except being both present at large Vshojo gatherings (5-6 people)

>>3982603
Mel collabed with Mouse like 2 weeks ago and Nyan collabed with Vei + Anny and Vei + Mouse last week I think.

wow i only recorded the zen stream from a little bit before nyan was going to appear on it and it still ended up lasting over 8 hours from that point

>>3982656
So you agree with me, Nyanners and Melody haven't collaborated since 2020.

>>3980487
>>3980700
FOUND IT AT RANDOM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gH7UuOXkFLw

>>3981955
I'd rack it more up to conflicting schedules and the fact that there's a lot of games Mel just can't play due to a few reasons. They don't seem to be the closest of members though, like during one of the times Nyan didn't show up for the VN readings Mel asked Mousey if she was coming.

>>3983973
people seem to like her a lot here but she looks like a very niche streamer to me. last time i checked she had less than half of the viewers that nyan had. seems to be a quite dedicated community tho so she probably does not even want any more. it did not feel like something that one could easily just hop into

>>3976978
You're just mad you didn't think to do it first

Anyone else kinda bummed that VShojo has sold out and stooped to collaborating with hololive of all the groups out there? Like are they that desperate now? I feel like the girls had principles back before they formed this group and it's obvious that they're being forced to fall in line now

>>3985340
The entire point of vshojo was that it was anti-hololife, they wanted to show that you can have a vtuber agency without all the bad shit people assume is standard in the industry due to hololife. hell it took them weeks of expl;aining that they arnt like hololife because fans were scared of them being exploited. Them now colabing with them undoes all of that and now validates hololifes practices and shows they dont realy care about the bad practices.

>>3985392
It's really bizarre especially considering multiple talents have gone on record to talk about how bad hololive is. I have to think that somebody is forcing them to suck it up and make nice in the pursuit of higher numbers and profits.

>>3985392
vshojo died the moment management started telling them what they are allowed to retweet, and even like, on twitter. that level of control goes completely against what they said it would be.

>>3985432
I was only aware of the "absolutely no politics" thing, with which i fully agree and that i applaud

>>3985392
>they wanted to show that you can have a vtuber agency without all the bad shit people assume is standard in the industry due to hololife.
But isn't one element of the bad shit that you can't just collab with whoever you want? So this is actually in keeping with that idea, they shouldn't not be able to collab with someone just because they're part of a certain agency.

>>3971971
Mori has her roommates twitch account though.

>>3985392
I'm pretty sure the point was just to have a bunch of friends form a vtuber group instead of trying to prove something.

Can someone tell me why seemingly everywhere else on this board Nyan is blasted as hypocritical. I'm not trying to start shit it's just something I see get repeated.again and again and I have no fucking idea why. Also Froot a cute

>>3977837
I CANT TELL WHOSE THE REAL ZEN?

Snuffy isn't actually vshojo but she is 100% the best English vtuber going that follows that same perverted girl format. I really like Snuffy. She seems very sweet and kind and perverted but not in the genuine despot sense of she's engaging in hypersexual behaviors rather she seems like a degenerate who has developed a lot of fetishes because of inattention and internet usage.

For me, Snuffy is the best around. Really nice girl.

>>3976978
>>3977837
Zen might be male, very, very real possibility. But a lot of the mannerisms shown through their body tracking is super feminine. It would be more of a twist at this point if Zen was actually a female hiding themselves as such for some genuine reason. Not saying that's the case.

>>3985392
Is this a falseflag or are you legitimately completely retarded?

Since it's dead hours and thread is 50% shitposters and falseflaggers
>Who is your favorite VShojo?
>Optional: Why?

>>3985392
>Them now colabing with them undoes all of that and now validates hololifes practices and shows they dont realy care about the bad practices.
How fucking retarded are you?
You realize you can hate the higher ups of a company and not their employees/talents who have no say in company politics, right?

>>3993525
Veibae because of her voice, I could easily listen to her just reading a book or something.

>>3992057
>seems like a degenerate who has developed a lot of fetishes because of inattention and internet usage
So, like the rest of the Vshojo girls?

>>3985392
>hololife

>>3992057
>Snuffy isn't actually vshojo
Man i feel stupid now. I took to her pretty fast after discovering Veibae and watching clips of the other shojos, so I thought she was one of them.

Her design and rigging is absolutely stunning and I love how she really has that legit chill-and-talk-about-random-shit vibe; like she's someone you'd meet and end up talking to in a grocery store after she randomly comments on a box of cereal you were looking at or have in your basket.

>>3993525
Veibae
Her Live2D rig is absolutely beautiful and charming along with her voice; she's cute as hell. Her eyes and eyebrows are charming as fuck. Also toilet humor and odd topics.

>>3985392
The entire point of it was to make money of retards like you by spinning a story of how "we aren't the bad ones"

What tracking gear does Zen use? One of those suit like mel or vive trackers? I got a ton of those vive trackers myself and it always seems to spaz out so I dont see what I'm doing wrong besides buying the wrong shit

>>3995193
When using lots of vive trackers you have to do a lot of tuning and fucking around to get them all working.

>>3995307
Ya idk if im missing an option but vmc you just have to tpose to calibrate instead of place the balls yourself and it never seems to calibrate right

>>3985549
its also explicit sexual stuff i think

>>3985340
>>3985392
>>3985413
>>3985432
>>3985659
Talk about a false flag!

Who is the lewdest VShojo?

>>3995037
Only to realize that leeching off the bad ones they'd set up was way more profitable lol

>>3995993
This has been brought up to death. VShojo didn't force them not to RT lewd shit they were told that sponsors are prudes and not RT'ing lewds would help them get more. It's advice they don't have to follow, but they did so willingly because sponsorships are big for streamers.

>>3993525
nyanners because cute and she somehow manages to make even things that im not interested in feel good

>>3996846
oh really? where are the sponsors for everyone? if there aren't sponsors where are the explicit likes or rts that prevented them?

>>3997237
Nyan literally just did a sponsored stream by square enix https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1022915798

>>3997358
i still can't believe that. people say that sponsors are like some insane church people but nyan is as far from correct and family friendly as someone could be

>>3997519
She made it pretty clear that they didn't want her to curse during the stream and she had to correct herself / apologize every time she did so. Snuffy was also sponsored (And also does not rt the lewd fanart she gets) and said the same thing.

Jesus, I got to bed and it becomes autism hour in here. The hell is with that blatant false flagging shit around 2 AM? That would be prime English morning breakfast sipping shitposting time, Russian borscht lunchtime, or primetime Zhang hours. Have we finally made it? Are we finally on the Chinese anti hit lists? Whatever

Don't reply to obvious bait folks.

>>3997358
>nyanners
she's big enough to get sponsors on her own, what about the other vshojo members?
what's the point of vshojo if they just keep giving nyanners sponsors and opportunities and no one else?

>>3997709
Who says they aren't working on it? We don't know what they're doing behind the scenes and we probably won't until something happens.

>>3997790
>working on it
its going to come around to a full a year of vshojo and the majority of the roster will have had zero sponsors

>>3997665
is this what the beeping meme came from?

>>3997859
It actually started the stream prior where as a gag she kept mistiming the beeps but she attempted to do it properly during the stream to really silly results. I wouldn't be surprised if neither Snuffy nor Nyan get another Square sponsorship after that stream. Especially since at the end they just started making giantess porn together and talked about deviantart inflation porn of Square's CEO.

>>3997825
but do they really need them? even the low viewcount ones are getting very nice amounts of simp money

>>3997908
you're right, but why do they need vshojo at all then if they won't help with managing sponsorships and stuff?
all vshojo is doing is piggybacking off their brands to build their own and the girls are getting nothing, everything is the same except there's a parasitic company attached now

>>3997910
didn't nyan say that she has been sponsored before? i remember hearing that kind of thing and can't believe that she would have been any different back then

>>3997960
idk. maybe they would still get some visibility from the affiliation? would they all ever have came together like this without vshojo?

>>3997709
>they just keep giving nyanners sponsors and opportunities and no one else?
Off the top of my head:
>Froot
Funimation
>Melody
Tenga
>Ironmouse
Bookwalker
>Lewdcast
JAST USA
I THINK that's all, and this doesn't cover the outreach that led to their collab opportunities

>>3997908
There was a stream awhile back where Vei outlined exactly why sponsorships are so big for a streamer and I don't think it was clipped but in short: the money people at their level get is extremely erratic and makes it hard to do things like get credit or loans because they don't have a "stable" income and it makes planning for the future difficult. A sponsored stream is a guaranteed paycheck for an agreed upon amount and is typically for a pretty handsome sum that would outdo what they'd get for anything but a big event day. They may be able to make a pretty sizable amount per stream but taxes are a bitch so a sponsorship is always a huge boon. Which is why they're willing to change how they do things for a single stream in order to satisfy a sponsor.

>>3997963
She did but I'm guessing she has a better handle on staying appropriate when she's solo. This time since Snuffy was also sponsored they collabed the stream together and they managed to stay on track for most of it but the last hour or so they just kind of went over the top in stuff.

>>3998096
>Melody + Tenga
pre-vshojo
>Mouse
knows connor, easily could've gotten a contact herself
>Lewdcast
lmao where

Today's schedules (all times eastern):

Bunny - Live now playing Mass Effect
Veibae - 2pm (maybe)
Nyanners - 3pm
Zen - 4pm - Probably playing EuroTruck again (STAY OFF THE ROADS!)
Melody - 7pm (CB)
Silvervale - 7pm Viscera Cleanup w/ Froot!
Froot - 7pm Viscera Cleanup w/ Silvervale! (not sure if streaming)
Mousey - 8pm

Haurka / Hime: unknown
Momo: Off (Mom's birthday!)
Anny: Presumably off (she normally streams by now)
Snuffy: Was sick yesterday so she didn't stream, but may do so today if not still sick.

>>3998137
one still needs bank loans at those income levels? and would a game company really be that autistic about correctness? im sure that they know what kind of people are buying their products and most of them are not going to be some super religious boomers

Oh I see what's happening. The sperg from the other thread weren't getting any satisfaction so now they're over here. This guy questioning VShojo has been doing this shit for months and has had all his questions answered numerous times but comes back for more. He's just a baiting troll, ignore him.

>>3998314
hownew... i hope you know that anonymous is not always the same person.

>>3998288
My guess is that they want to use clips from their sponsored streams to make highlight reels and ads to show how hyped people are for their upcoming releases. And if they have people cursing in the stream then that's footage they can't use so they want it to stay clean. That's just my assumption but that's how a lot of these sorts of agreements work. And stuff like a car is far out of the realm of what they can make in a single stream and setting up payment plans for that sort of thing is contingent on employment and being able to pay. A lot of people outside of the internet don't understand streaming and all they see is "This person doesn't have a stable job and I don't know if they can pay for this car."

>>3998314
>everyone i disagree with is the same person

>>3998415
you know that its possible to save money? keep whatever does not go to your living cost and buy that fucker with cash instead of becoming a slave to the credit jew

>>3998479
He already admitted to being from the other thread. That mentality is to be expected.

>>3991417
iirc it's because she made her career on the foundation of loli covers, then went to say she hates lolis and regrets doing so (Specially the pomf pomf song) but has a loli avatar and clearly caters to the same demographic she hates, don't quote me on that, it's just what i've pieced together from lurking

>>3998612
sadly true, lots of tourists there, its why im lurking here a bit more

>>3998162
>pre-vshojo
I remember the giveaway was in January, but that might have been a side-venture now that I think about (don't recall VShojo being a part of that, but I might be wrong)
>knows connor, easily could've gotten a contact herself
Plausible. But I'd imagine it's reasonable to assume she would let her agency handle/help with the negotiations and business-talk, regardless of who got the contacts first
>lmao where
Under your bed, don't look under there and you'll be fine. Fr tho, they've said that they're still working on it behind the scenes for a while so fans probably still have hope. To me, every collab so far has been an unofficial Lewdcast in some way lol
In all seriousness, without the girls explicitly saying "Thank you VShojo," we can never be 100% sure that it was all due to the agency, or to their own efforts, or a bit of both.

>>3998787
i admire your ability to hope so much that vshojo is actually useful, but i just don't see anything they're doing, they yoinked the girls brands, yoinked their editors, yoinked their artists, i don't see what they're giving back now

Distraction Snuffy!

>>3998773
pls.. this board was made just few months ago. it was fucked from the start

>>3998905
any vtuber themed thread on this site is going to be fucked to be fair

>>3998846
what brands and editors? They all have the same editors they did before vshojo except for Vei who started having vids made for her by Nyan's editor recently. But that's probably because her old one couldn't provide more than 1-2 vids per month.

>>3998162
how come that literally everyone else has had some kind of collabs but i can't remember ever seeing that coomer melody with anyone? does she just not want it?

>still responding to him

Well, I warned you guys. Enjoy this never ending (you) festival because he'll never accept any answer you give him. Here, have a Bunny, maybe I can instead induce that sperg to come out and distract this thread from the other one.

>>3999134
its still better than a dead thread. if people get tired of it they will stop replying

>>3998415
But if they are making enough money to pay for it, and the problem is that the bank does not see streaming as a stable job, can't they just save and buy it in cash? Sure, it sucks they are getting it later, but they'd still be getting it, if you can afford to pay 2K every month you definitely can afford saving 2K every month for a year and buying it in the end

>>3999134
Speaking of bunny, has anyone seen the bunny sperg recently. I dont know if i glossed over him or he might be gone.

>>3999606
this. its all about planning. you can invest some of the money too to get even more

americans just seem to have this weird obsession with credit. its like they are totally unaware of the things that you are able to do yourself

>>3997358
That stream was so nutty for a sponsored one, it almost seemed like a boycott by the end.

>>4000245
i would not say so. she seemed to be genuinely excited about the game. to the point that i was wondering how the fuck can someone feel like this about a fucking game

>>3998874
kek, but where's the sound?

>>4000441
too advanced technology for 4chan

>>4000342
I meant by their behavior that seemed pretty inappropriate for a sponsored stream. Nevertheless, I really enjoyed it.

>>4000598
it was definitely something new at least to me but im sure that the sponsor knew what they were getting into.. its not like they could not have checked before making the deal

>>3999606
Even if you have the money would they just sell it to you? Anon, do you leave your house?
Do you think someone would sell a tiny young girl a house because they had all the money? Money that for someone that age, seems almost illegal to obtain?... hmm. Maybe if they did a check on their job history they will sell them the house! Oh? They’ve only been streaming regularly for a year? Hmmmmm.
Seriously anon, what would be the point of having stable income, credit, and job history? That must all just be for memes right? Please leave your parents basement.

Congratulations to your mouse for reaching 500k. I don’t care for vshojo but your girls have been treating my oshi at least better than most Holofags so I accept you guys for at least being decent. I hope she and her will collab someday, since Mouse looks nice and fun to be with. Tenshimp out.

>her

>>4000994
wtf? what kind of business would not want money and why would they have any right to violate someones privacy to the point that they would know how someone got their money? if someone does not want to do business with you then you take your money somewhere else, there will always be someone that is happy to get you what you want

>>4000754
Her first Square Enix sponsored stream was pretty tame though. She even tried to avoid swearing.

It's better this way though.

>>4000994
Don't move the goalpost, the problem is streaming not seeming stable enough to an outsider giving loans, not legality, you have a record of every donation, it's easy to prove it's legal money if you're paying taxes on it.

Oh shit. Seems like Vei is addressing the dumbass clip of her going around in regards to Hololive. Said the rant she went on was because she respects the talent and wants them to be respected and treated better and the comments were made in the wake of the Aloe and Taiwan things happening.

Vei slaying rats live on stream

>>4001385
Vei even said that she wasn't the one pushing for the collab, Kiara was

>>4001289
thats what i always thought. become too dependent on these shitty sponsors and your content will turn into the same generic soulless trash that everyone else is making

>>4001464
so the virtual forbidden door being broken down from the inside.

>>4001055
thanks ly2. you're talking about amatsuka uto right? I watched a couple of her streams and enjoyed them. I hope they collab too

>>4001305
Only a boomer would care about "stable income". To a business money is always money

>>4001519
I heard that

But yeah, the "forbidden door" is rent free in a lot of people's heads

i was thinking about the line mousie said after letting it slip about the holo collab. "pink haired girls get along with each other." we all were thinking it being one on one but what if a pink haired catgirl also got added to the mix?

Vei definitely read the threads, kek

lol she's also talking about how stupid the /vt/ shit of viewing things as a transaction is. Saying that her collabing with Nyan could have been viewed as leeching because Nyan was a lot bigger than her when they first collabed when the reality is that they're just big friends.

>>4001690
she literally just said that a few minutes ago. if you see this, hey vei.

Hi Vei.

Vei dishing out the friendzone

>>4001736
>>4001761
She's reading this thread right now!

>>4000441
You're hearing the Amongus twerk music manually.

inb4
>she's not genuine, reeeeeee

>>4001289
Mowtendoo was clearly joking, and he only said that around the point where the digital showcase had ceased and they were no longer sponsored, which is also when she and Snuffy decided to regress to their usual degenerate selves.

I can't jack off to Vei knowing she still visits us, because that means she's a fellow 4chinger.

VEIBAE LOVE

>>4001520
Uto is cute as fuck. She has done a few things with Bao but I too would like to see more adorable with the other girls. If a language barrier is an issue, I understand that, but I'd love to see what kinds of topics Mousey could get going with her.

>>4001690
Vei, if you read this, please, VShojo Counter Strike stream
>>4001540
And boomers are the ones giving loans, as for businesses, yeah they don't really care where you got the money from, and even if they did it's easy to prove it's not illegal, which was my argument

>>4001897
>the point where the digital showcase had ceased and they were no longer sponsored, which is also when she and Snuffy decided to regress to their usual degenerate selves.
They literally talked about putting the cool figurine that comes with the collector's edition in a cum jar as it was shown live on stream...

Part of me is happy Veibae is dashing /vt/ narratives and part of me is fully aware that this is going to send /vt/ into even bigger schizo overdrive.

>>4001935
Language barrier is definitely the biggest hurdle between any collabs with anyone from Japan. Nyan's the best Japanese speaker in the group and even she's got like an elementary kid's level understanding of it. Mouse has wanted to do a couple Japanese collabs before but the need for a third party to help translate would be the biggest.

>>4001961
He was still joking. There's no fucking way MTD would say that publicly if it was really a problem. If it was an issue, he'd wait until stream is done and communicate with her in private about it. Businesses do not run out in the open.

>>4001978
crashing this board... with no survivors

truly the most based vshojo

nyan looks weird today

>>4001652
doubt it, compared to Mouse, Mori's relation to cat seems fairly distant, plus she's not a big collab person in the first place

>>4001978
Every time local schizos get any attention they're doubling up. HoloID zoomer mentioned 4chins again and her thread instantly got like 100+ schizoposts

>>4001385
Holofag here
Can you give me a clip of her addressing this?
Just want to see, not trying to start anything

>>4002033
>what is hosting

>>4001978
Our rrats can only be handled by the strongest. Reddit's rrats are just weak, they are just malnourished country ones, while ours are juicy fat new york slums type ones which eat pizza.

Vei about to show feet on stream.

>>4001997
Bao speaks okay, but she admits her knowledge limit is pretty low. If Bao can do it, so can Nyan. Nyan's problem is a similar one that a lot of people have when talking to native speakers "what if I fuck up and say something wrong?" and since Nyan is already a social retard, the anxiety of language translation and speaking just puts her into orbit. I love Nyan, but she could be a lot bigger than she is now if she just got out of her own way sometimes.

Still, translators do exist. Many of them know Shibuya Kaho and I am sure she wouldn't mind a collab every so often. SIRO might be another option. I know people don't like to be "used" just for translating skills and I know the girls would feel awful asking someone to collab because of that, but until they get better skills their options are limited. Hell, they could pay someone to translate if they really want to do it. Translators I am sure would love to be paid for some stream work.

>>4002069
She's still live. Clipping is harder to do while live unless you're Cooksie (and I am sure he's not going to cut this).

>>4002069
She talked about it on and off for like 20 minutes so there's the start of it in the vod since she's still live. https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1030401573?t=00h10m13s

That's nice and all but I want to see more of her tail.

>>4002073
a conspiracy theory

>>4002154
>>4002163

Okay, I'm listening and yeah, I thought some of the comments were a miss, but... to be honest, I never saw it as she leeching. I keep listening.

Some of you may not know this but gura and nyanners are the same person

>>4002318
Yeah, me

>>4002163
If you don't mind, I'll take the clip to another thread after fully listening. Thank you for showing it.

>>4002343
Hi Dakooters

Now that the proverbial door has been broken down, I kinda wanna see Vei's model get Kiara's level of rigging for the boobs

>>4002073
baby don't hurt me, no more.

>>4002343
lmfao there's at least 2 Twitch staff in chat watching Vei do the feet thing. This guy + Growl.

>>4002362
>asking for permission
It's public info. Nothing we can stop you from doing and that's going to happen anyway.

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>>4002422
I WON DansGame

>>4002413
Kek, just being polite, but I'm not on Reddit.
Equally, thank you for sharing it.

Using Snuffy's coupon code

Is it autism?
https://youtu.be/499HZjx7wes

>>4002163
>>4001385
Finally she address it. Personally, all I want to hear is her owning up to her words and show that she doesn’t mean any actual malice. Don’t know about other Holofags, but as long as she speak out and explain herself proper is good enough for me. Can’t say the same about the other schizos in this place, but at least I will bump Vei a level up.
Admitting you’re wrong and addressing the elephant in the room is not easy and that takes some since of responsibility and strength. A small bit of respect for her, and a bit for the rest of Vshojo too (except for Nyanner. She’s still a backstabbing cock mongering cunt bag and go eat shit. Fuck her).

I hope their collab with Kiara and Mori goes well. I’m very looking forward to it now.

>>4002472
Sorry, that wasn't supposed to come off as dickish, it just sounded weird that you were asking us when we don't control shit, heh.

Pink cat also has her feet up. Though hers look like they're more made for herself than a free asset like Vei's using.

>>4002579
Nah, it's okay man, have a nice day.
I'm leaving the thread.

>>3953447
So this is the power of SEAhours huh? Not bad.

>>4002612
She's a footfag, so I am sure she has footfags among her fans who have been waiting for this day to make custom feet pics of her.

>>4002574
Yeah, I was starting to dislike Vei cause I was only in /hlgg/ so my view was basically turning schizo
Glad I tuned into Vei today, cleared up the air around her and that stupid shit

>>4002574
Just a few seconds after saying that she said they're an asset someone else made that the cat paws were added to.

Adding a steam asset to it is all her degeneracy though.

>>4002574
I'm with you.
I'll not watch the collab with Vei, I still dislike her for other things, but I'll just do other thing.

>>3954814
He's not actually a global mod whatever: https://twitter.com/Growlibi

>>4002598
No, not again.
>click off veibae's stream when she reveals her feet
>see nyanners is streaming
>she does the same fucking thing
I guess feet win every time huh....

>>4002738
Congratulations anon you're becoming less of a schizo. Nobody's forcing anyone to watch anything they don't want to.

I have to say I'm loving this feet trend thing.

have any of them said where they got the idea from?

>>4002392
how do you know that hes staff? i don't see the wrench icon

>>4002772
I'm loving that not all of them are wearing shoes when they do it cause seeing boots and heels does nothing for me. Mel last night is probably not ever going to be topped. https://youtu.be/zAJ5pt85xps

these gachi songs are really good

>>4002766
B-but my oshi... She'll become a whore...

>>4002941
ENVISION THE AROMA

>>4002738
Personally I don’t hate Veibae. It was just that clip of hers made her came off as very two faced and hypocritical which made it hard to take her serious. Also the fact that she tried to sweep it under the rug was very underhanded but now, as long as she address it properly and actually show that her opinion changed, rather than just acting as it never happened and is just clout chasing, then I am fine with her.
Maybe I’m wrong and she’s still lying through her teeth despite addressing it but even in this shit hole I like to at least give people benefit of the doubt.

I hope clippers will upload that everywhere cause people are still holding on to her old clip. If its spread around and shown to more people it will at least soften alot, alot of people’s current opinion of her if they have saw the clip or have just a overall negative view on her and Vshojo. Hopefully. Best to her and yhe rest of the girls (except Nyanners)

>>4002154
It's not really that hard, you just need to set up Nvidia Instant Replay (idk if there's an AMD Equivalent) and clip from that

>>4002794
I don't think they have, no. I'm not sure anybody cares who started it. Like the "hi honey" thing, it was just a trend that became a thing.

>>4002968
Upload it to YouTube or share it through Twitter

>>4003000
yeah I don't know who technically started but it's pretty obvious who caused everyone else to start doing it right now

>>4002343
Sup Anomaly

>>4001652
It was probably more of a reference to this. Which I think was their first interaction.
>>4001520
>>4001935
Uto congratulated Mouse on hitting 500k, so they're probably on each other's radar at the least.

>>4002968
wtf dude? its entertainment and you are thinking of it like its a wife candidate? :D

>>4002941
that's my streamer

>>4002796
Some twitch staff can refuse to have the wrench badge enable to them, so that's normal I guess

Nyan and Vei about to collab in Apex.

>>4001464
Say what you want about Kiara. She's good at getting things she wants.

Nyan bringing up yesterday's mega collab for Zen's birthday and it's definitely worth checking out if you missed it. She streamed for 12 and a half fucking hours and it was a nice loving stream that ended in some feels. Or if you don't care about having emotions then Mouse, Nyan, Zen, Vei, Mel, and Froot all playing Pummel Party and watching videos together is a contender for best stream of the year so far.

>>4001652
I doubt there is gonna be collab very soon with Mori because next week is busy one and neither next week after that because she goes for 4-5 day break.
>what if a pink haired catgirl also got added to the mix?
Never gonna happen after how formal that birthday tweet was so i doubt they really talk off stream or even know each other.

>>4003326
i like this combination. idk about vei alone yet but together they are cute

>>4003097
i was reffering to this clip. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTonJ6XrLno

>>4003464
They've tweeted at one another a lot more than once.

>>4003464
i didnt say soon. its just it was pretty much spelled out for us here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTonJ6XrLno

>>4003593
Pretty sure I heard somewhere that they wouldn't be happening until June or something. Which would line up with what >>4003464 is saying if she's going to be busy for the next couple of weeks.

>>4003534
You have to remember we are talking about Mori here so it is not gonna be your normal gaming stream collab but a song collab.

>>4002163
It really is a case of her criticism could have been better worded. Because I have a hard time disagreeing. The way Cover treats En and to some extent Jp and the Stars it's absolutely mind boggling at times.

>>4003097
i was referring to this where she pretty much spilled it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTonJ6XrLno

>>4003464
never said anything about it happening soon, just its pretty much on the table now.

>>4003554
I am talking about Nyanners.

wtf did i just read

>>4003682
>Stars
Eh, they have Shinove who is the most competent manager and i think he also does stuff for Mori time to time.

>>4003856
A typical Twitch self-plug, surprised it's not deleted at sight

>>4003688
I love how happy this pottymouth appears about it
I'm not a big fan of vShojo or even Mousey, but I do like Mori getting more friends she can collab with
t. deadbeat

>>4003920
they use these dirty tricks enough and soon no one is going to feel anything

Actual falseflaggots stirring up the drama. Not to say that I'm surprised, but the amount of (You)'s...

Vei and Nyanners collab is comfy even tho they are both shit at the game

>>4004154
I barely watch Vshoujo but global really need to take their meds and stop seething over basically nothing, it's makes them and hololive by extension look deluded and psychotic

>>4004154
So did she actually address or what. What the fuck are you even talking about.

>>4004599
Read the thread.

>>4004154
why do people care about this shit? just enjoy the streams

>>4004154
Sorry anon
I’m an actual retard
There were no bad intentions

Yes, this pleases gecko

>>4004154
>>4004698
This. I don't know what it is with modern fan culture where every has to go super obsessive and way over the line. Is it a zoomer thing with their whole "stan" shit?

Vei forcing Nyanners to talk about anal.. Kinda weird..

>>4006149
I’m>>4004729
I think is because of this feeling that you have to follow everything a streamer is doing, and if something you don’t like “infiltrates”, then you become worried that it will become a recurrent element in the future and ruin your experience, so you feel obligated to gatekeep to not allow those elements from altering what you like

New thread:

>>4007356
>>4007356
>>4007356

>>4004698
holofags are the SJWs of vtubing

>>4007465
More like the Catholic Church