/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>39509993
She really wanted to do this holotalk in particular, but i think she is going to take a break or whatever a break means for her.

>>39509981
Oh so he actually did buy agricultural land in the Philippines? Actually a smarter move than buying agricultural land in the UK

>>39510055
>4 days
i believe she said.

>>39510060
Wasn't the original point about them being well off or not?

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *
>72,400: Lilpa (Isegye Idol)
>36,245: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>35,060: Kohaku (Nijisanji)
>33,512: Miko (Hololive)
>32,487: Iroha (Hololive)
>28,055: Lui (Hololive)
>22,357: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>20,592: Natori Sana (Indie)
>20,111: Lui (Hololive)
>19,166: Pekora (Hololive)
>18,872: Subaru (Hololive)
>18,287: Iroha (Hololive)
>16,573: Pekora (Hololive)
>14,959: Furen (Nijisanji)
>14,711: Vox (Nijisanji)
>14,251: HIMEHINA (Studio LaRa)
>13,176: Nene (Hololive)
>12,138: Nose (VSPO)
>11,870: Ange (Nijisanji)
>11,000: Kiara (Hololive)
>10,782: Shellin (Nijisanji)

last thread devolved from calli owning her own house in the US/JP to mysta buying some cheap land in the philippines lol

I better not see any fucking gook lewds being posted here

I'm getting drunk the night lads, lucky the girls don't stream so I can't say anything embarrassing

"The top dog of EN vtubing" status?

>>39510093
>DECEMBER 2022 GOLDS
1) Aqua (Hololive) - 74,863 - Birthday totsumachi
2) Miko (Hololive) - 43,734 - Molly Online w/Suisei
3) Pekora (Hololive) - 119,225 - 2 million subs celebration 3D
4) Toya (Nijisanji) - 108,918 - Niji MK Cup rules & lottery
5) Pekora (Hololive) - 65,711 - Fate/Grand Order gacha
6) Mio (Hololive) - 69,368 - New outfit reveal
7) Mio (Hololive) - 88,166 - 4th anniversary 3D live
8) Fubuki (Hololive) - 34,626 - Fate/Grand Order gacha
9) Hisui (Nijisanji) - 43,193* - 3D debut
10) Hex (Nijisanji) - 59,875 - Debut stream
11) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 177,944* - Niji MK Cup qualifiers
12) Miko (Hololive) - 55,852 - Party Panic collab w/Polka, Fubuki & Suisei
13) Toya (Nijisanji) - 86,262 - Niji MK Cup finals rules & lottery
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 65,176 - Announcement stream
15) Fulgur (Nijisanji) - 30,227 - Statement on Yugo graduation
16) Miko (Hololive) - 46,343 - Pokemon Scarlet egg hatching
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 110,266 - New outfit reveal
18) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 195,196 - Niji MK Cup finals
19) Pekora (Hololive) - 50,805 - Pokemon Violet w/Koyori
20) Pekora (Hololive) - 62,091 - Fate/Grand Order gacha
21) Towa (Hololive) - 47,733 - Startend off-collab
22) Watame (Hololive) - 39,051 - Clubhouse 51 gyakutotsu
23) Lilpa (Isegye Idol) - 72,400 - 3D live

>PER COMPANY
15x: Hololive
7x: Nijisanji
1x: Isegye Idol

>PER STREAMER
6x: Pekora
3x: Miko
2x: Mio, Nijisanji, Toya
1x: Aqua, Fubuki, Fulgur, Hex, Hisui, Lilpa, Towa, Watame

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
235x: Hololive
109x: Nijisanji
6x: Indie, Neo Porte
1x: Isegye Idol, Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
57x: Pekora
24x: Miko
19x: Kuzuha
18x: Aqua
17x: Nijisanji
16x: Salome, Subaru
10x: Marine
8x: Mio, Toya
7x: Suisei
6x: Hal, Hololive, Kanata
5x: Flare, Fuwa, Gura, Koyori, Noel, Towa
4x: Chloe, Korone, Okayu, Polka
3x: Ayame, Choco, Fubuki, Lui, Mayuzumi, Mel
2x: Ange, Botan, Ibrahim, Iroha, Lamy, Laplus, Maimoto, Mito, Mori, Mysta, Nene, Nerumero, Shion, Sora, Tsukasa, Vox, Watame, Yashiro
1x: AI, Akabane, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Fulgur, Furen, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hex, Hisui, Hoshikawa, Kaida, Lain, Leos, Lilpa, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Moona, Nagao, Naruse, Natsume, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Ui, Yorumi, Zeta

JWU, by how much did Vox win global gold?

>>39510099
>There are none
You are in luck.... Unless.

>>39510087
Just because you can buy land in the uk doesnt mean you are well off anon. I bought land in scotland but that doesnt mean im well off.

https://twitter.com/ange_katrina_/status/1606303632714092544?s=46&t=FsuIqkTNc1oMBTOEjblp7A

>>39509624
Let's not kid ourselves - even if Kiara shilled it adequately, I bet she'd only get a couple k more at best
Ayame's got good numbers due to it being the first one in a long while, plus Ayame being pretty popular
Peko's was always going to get decent numbers as a first army holo
Meanwhile, Kanata is mid-tier

>>39509888
Wonder if Holo will try to get some sort of meme fuck in EN3. Coco really drove a lot of the traffic over there.

>>39510170
I thought Ange was one of the good ones.

>>39510201
>meme fuck in EN3
My loli x hag crackship...

>>39510219
>ange
>good ones
ange is literally ntr the vtuber anon.

>>39510137
>2022 SILVERS
>PER COMPANY
234x: Hololive
107x: Nijisanji
6x: VSPO
5x: Indie
4x: Neo Porte
1x: PRISM Project

>PER STREAMER
53x: Pekora
37x: Miko
29x: Kuzuha
22x: Marine
15x: Subaru, Suisei
11x: Gura, Salome
10x: Nijisanji
8x: Hololive
7x: Fubuki, Korone, Toya
6x: Aqua, Botan, Fuwa
4x: Koyori, Lize
3x: Flare, Hal, Lamy, Lui
2x: Haachama, Kanae, Kanata, Leos, Luna, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Noel, Shiina, Towa, Tsukasa, Tsuna, Vox, Watame
1x: Akina, Akira, Alban, Amelia, Aster, Ayame, AZKi, Beni, Choco, Chronoir, Debi, Ema, Gaku, Gatchman, Genzuki, Hayato, Hinano, Hololive Indonesia, Hoshikawa, Iofi, Ina, Iroha, IRyS, Kaela, Kanae, Karuta, Kiara, Kronii, Laplus, Lauren, Levi, Matsuri, Mio, Mito, Moona, Nari, Nene, Nerumero, Okayu, Oliver, Ponpoko, Ramune, Ren, Rion, Ririmu, Risu, Ritsuki, Roboco, ROF-MAO, Rushia, Sara Nagare, Shion, Suzuya Aki, Toko, Uki, Ver, Warabeda, Yashiro, Yui

>2022 BRONZES
>PER COMPANY
229x: Hololive
109x: Nijisanji
6x: Indie, Neo Porte
2x: 774 Inc., Noripro, VSPO
1x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
42x: Miko
34x: Subaru
32x: Pekora
30x: Kuzuha
17x: Marine
12x: Salome
10x: Gura, Nijisanji
8x: Toya
6x: Koyori
5x: Fubuki, Hal, Lamy, Okayu, Suisei
4x: Aqua, Botan, Chloe, Korone, Mori, Shion
3x: Amelia, Choco, Hayato, Iroha, Lize, Lui, Rushia, Sasaki
2x: Ayame, Fuwa, Gwelu, Hololive, Kanata, Kiara, Kobo, Mio, Mito, Mumei, Mysta, Nerumero, Nijisanji English, Nui, Shiina, Tamaki, Towa, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi
1x: Aia, Aki, AZKi, Dola, Enna, Flare, Gaku, Gatchman, Haachama, Ibrahim, Ike, Kaede, Kaida, Kanae, Kazaki, Kohaku, Kyoko, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Magni, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Mel, Meloco, Met, Minase, Noel, Nose, Patra, Petra, Polka, Ponpoko, Ponto, Rikiichi, Roboco, Rosemi, Ryushen, Sora, Sumire, Tsukasa, Ui, Voltaction

>>39510260
But she wants to be cucked, not cuck her viewers

>>39510169
buying land still needs you to develop it meaning using more money but since its the philippines, it's gonna be cheaper for both tools and workforce. But how much are they gonna build a farm is up to them, it's probably just a small one so that the mom could manage it herself. If mysta and his mom tries to make a business out of it, they're retards. He could've bought plenty of low price houses or apartments to be rent off or sold off instead of an agricultural business

>>39510170
not even nijijp is safe from The Cuckening

>>39510146
He ordered his zhang sisters to viewbot Lilpa's live. It is technically his global gold.

>>39510201
>meme fuck
That has to come naturally. If you force it, you end with Milhouse.

>>39510093
7-10 win for nijisanji, hololive is dead

>>39510219
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r14ntCbjTGA
>Can't get a date but ships her coworkers with herself and others
vs
>Asexual prophet
This will be a funny stream.

>>39510304
If Mysta is smart they should have bought 1 or 2 acres of it and plant coconuts in order to farm copra oil since theres always a huge demand for the stuff.

>>39510201
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weVLloCe6O4

>>39510170
Global cuckification complete. Enjoy it, Nijisis.

https://youtu.be/tC-YYia-JeM
Unitybros!

>>39510079
She'll spend tomorrow and the 25th with family, and after that I guess she'll take a few days off to get better and fly to Japan.

>>39510424
yeah that sounds like a forced meme like that vesper spear thing that they are trying to push by piggybacking on pekoras meme.

thread is so dead people are talking about fucking land prices

>>39510461
Blue woman!

So you're telling me that Isegye is the closest we can get to HoloKR?

>>39509245
>suddenly
she acknowledge the homos existing so now reddit is going to try to get her to collab with them

...WHEN OUR 3VIEW POWERS COMBINE!

WE BECOME...

>>39510489
Can't give them an inch

>>39510461
Everyone likes amamama

>>39510487
>we
https://youtu.be/WA4iX5D9Z64?t=43
Also, yes. Many of gook vtuber fans are into idol-like shit, as long as it's completely homegrown.

>>39510522
>two tier list streams at the same fucking time

>>39510487
Yes since its very unlikely that Hololive will do a KR branch due to how volatile that would be.

>>39510093
Strong women crying out of frustration that they could have done better is incredibly hot to me.
Makes me want them to succeed even more.
https://youtu.be/_GM8zCAlKA8?t=380
https://youtu.be/4__r2UexEwc

hfz....

>>39510461
how long can the japanese milk this mario kart?

>>39510592
all me and my smart toasters

>>39510522
why aren't their santa hats sticking to their heads?

>>39510592
That long break killed its momentum.

>>39510625
advanced Cover corp tech the niji spies are still working on it

>>39510605
It's getting new DLC tracks to this day. Strap in.

>>39510625
They can't attach PNGs

>>39510461
You talking about Choco-sen's bath partner?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es2NLkal5Is

>>39510170
Ibrahim getting some!
>SULTAN, I KNEEL!
WHAT? You guys thought THE SULTAN wouldn't have a harem?

>>39510231
I was hoping Watame would trap La+ in her basement with promises of food.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wkxMGdtsJM

>>39510170
anyone acting up about this is either a newfag or a shitposter
Ange straight up said she likes to NTR people before

>>39510688
He always had it, he just never wanted it.

>>39510717
laplus is dead, anon. she even took the frame for her christmas eve stream down.

I am from the future, Sister Marine is taking the gold and Pekora will appear on it.

>>39510657
>>39510665
You are telling me that they can afford to implement Home3D hand tracking, but not attaching pngs to other pngs?
RUMAO

>>39510725
I thought she likes getting NTR'd

I saw many people start posting about cold chicken in previous thread,did something happen to Pekora today?

>>39510093
kek they actually won gold. I used to shill them in /#/ before when they were actual 3/4 view chuuba. crazy as.

>>39510808
She's literally bringing the chicken this christmas

>>39510808
Go watch the thumbnail of tomorrow's stream.

>>39510765
Will she be sinful?

>>39510753
>La+ break was announced to cover her disappearance after she was trapped in Watame's basement.

>>39510808
chicken is warm this xmas

>>39510461
AAAAAHHHH ANOTHER BLUE WOMAN WILL INCLINE

>>39510808

>>39510816
lilpa before

>>39510816
damn, 1/2 the chuubas on this list don't really stream anymore.

>>39510093
Found a Lilpa bunny.

>>39510808
Pekora hot chicken is so famous it even make the cover of Famitsu

>>39510886
>>39510816
if you follow hololive and not shit on idol culture, watamage will bless you

>>39510886
bully...
is she still around?

>>39510816
It worked, in a STARK contrast with the "anti idol" shills, shilling them as "Holo lovers in Korea" gained them massive mindshare in this thread

>>39510830
Shes a lying whore bitch ofc she is sinful

I would fuck the absolute shit out of Choco and it would take the nippon army to stop me

>>39510027
Why does every gook look just like Ina?

>>39510953
How is Akio Air or whatever they were called, doing?

>>39510823
>>39510846
>>39510861
I realize cold chicken is actually good too last year if you use the right sauce to eat so thank Pekora.

>>39510998
peak gook female performance

>>39510816
>>39510886
wait that got me curious, what was their number for the last event they had in twitch? was it near the youtube numbers?

Guys is this the chicken youre talking about https://youtu.be/-bjCmE5hwRw

>>39510779
Even JP indies can attach PNGs to their model
https://youtu.be/LKZdo6eTt30?t=143

Iroha is becoming too powerful. Multiple 10k+ streams in December

I enjoy a stream more when the viewer number is high

>>39510982
anon, that's racist.

>>39510792
nah
the clip she talked about it seems to have been deleted but the gist is that she dosen't relate to any of the characters. it got translated as "i am the wall in those scenarious"

Is Koyori officially part of the first army now?

>>39510998
>How is Akio Air or whatever they were called, doing?
Dead in the water.

>>39511119
Several collabs but zero Suisei collab. Stupid Iroha.

I DRIVE FOR SPEED
UNTIL I HAVE NO NEED
TO RUN
ANYMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORE

idk why it's appeared on my recomendation, but it must be really sad to be a Nijisanji ex-ID liver, huh..

Hikaru Nara is still the best cover anyone in Council has ever been a part of.

Sana's singing voice will be missed. She harmonized so well with everyone else.

>>39507817
Rosemi...

>>39510830
sinful woman...

>4 asmr

>>39510219
Ange literally came onto Aruran on stream she's a whore

>>39511292
no

The cold chicken is actually curated right now after molding for a year, it's ready to be eaten.

>>39511319
IRyS is a total fucking cunt

>>39511330
Name a better cover any of the Council 5 has been a part of, by themselves or with other holos.

>>39511319 (me)
but why?

>>39510461
At first, it was the dog now. Now, this girl too. Why are Nijis such leeches?

>>39511319
lamy I kneel

>a year and a half since this happened
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0faz0n6fevM
>popularize vtuber in SK (see pic)
>inspired by many (including isegye idols even made a hommage)
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tF51r4YeJIo
>mass gook clips and getting great views
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfzo8NqHaYE
>local collabs great feedback
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moU_n5J-gh0
>still no HoloKR
Grim

>>39511436

>>39511400

My cute wife

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIli0iR-bek
last year she couldn't even sing at all

>>39511475
I hope she comes back soon

>>39511459
see
>>39510583

>>39511459
>Insert muh volatile and spooky market

>>39511292
Lol

>>39511459
That's a blessing in disguise.
Can you imagine HoloKR dashing through three gens, all of them getting 3D and all outfits before Council even get their first casual outfit?

Might as well shut the EN branch down, SPECIALLY if it would be patent that all of those things happened due to incompetence of the north american branch

>>39511032
>event
depends on what you consider.
Jururu's 3D live back in May had the same numbers as Gosegu's
Then again, Gosegu was overlapped by the 69k viewer watchalong
https://twitchtracker.com/woowakgood/streams/39932597015
Lilpa had no overlap and woowakgood was sending people to the YT stream as well.

Their biggest event was the music festival last summer, but on their boss's channel, 79k in September
https://twitchtracker.com/woowakgood/streams/39681624663

>>39511459
the butterfly effect.

>>39511475
GET WELL SOON TO COLLAB WITH HAACHAMA ON CHRIST-
>OH....

Do you niggers seriously think the Christmas song relay is prerecorded? What happened to this fandom?

>>39511545
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan%E2%80%93Korea_disputes

>>39511292
Damn, you guys still exist?

>>39511628
no

>>39511545
also
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Japanese_media_in_South_Korea

>>39511459
imagine the daily tally if they made HoloKR and accelerated EN3/EN4 this year.

>>39511319
Okayu and Miko are also doing ASMR

"my cute wife" posters get the rope

>>39510093
>>39510137
That seals the month, doesn't it? Nijis can't get any better than a tie this month

I MISS..

>>39511628
What? Who said that?

>>39511628
>Is GenZ trying to cancel the Thumbs up emoji real?
No, neither are real.
Just some trolls throwing shit around.

>>39511719
See >>39511554, imagine the daily seethe if HoloKR was already on gen 3 (speed run like HoloCN) and Council didn't have their casual outfit yet
>because they wouldn't
>because it's their own fault and of their own local management

>>39510093
contribooting a few

>>39511628
EN parts will be pre-recorded + skinwalkers

>>39511783

>>39511738
what about "my favorite whore"?

>>39511810
aaand that's about it, jeez I wonder where the gooks store all their lewds

>>39511780
>HoloKR
shit would be a failure not because of its popularity rather due to political shit like HoloCN

>>39511831
That's better, fits mumei for sure.

>>39511896
Nah, I was talking about my favorite twitch whore.

>>39511725
Miko is doing ASMR on the 25th. She has an announcement stream at 23JST after the offcollab today (unrelated to her another announcement on the 27th)

>>39511319
how new

>>39510201
r/Holo used to be a united place.
But I guess that was during a time when the girls were under attack from multiple angles (copyright shit, chinks, nijiniggers etc.) and so the entire fanbase was united around them as a whole.
Biggest problem with the subreddit happened when the nijishills and unitycucks invaded. Tempus was just the final straw, splitting the fanbase into a thousand different pieces.

I guess this is what happens in peacetime, when there's no external enemy to fight, the fanbase starts fighting each other.

>>39510461
> good girls cheering each other on
based

>wanting a korea branch
why? because you see one small group on twitch get BEEEEEG NOOMBER? so when they open up the Korea branch and they become mid to low 4view you can shit on them and compare with isegay? i can already see that shit happening.

>>39511962
>when there's no external enemy to fight
I guess that's why we shit on tempus during grimhours

>>39511920
The 24 hour variety skits like last Jan1 maybe?

>luxiem BTFOd holoEN yet again
just shut holoEN down already

My cute wife

cripple tally where

>>39512034
>luxiem can only win when 80% of holoen is sick and with buff gimmick streams

Choco cute

people here dreaming branches with multiple gens when even JP girls can't do 3D properly and cover sap away enormous amount of cash for their fucking game. won't spare any resources for homo support tho.

>>39512058
usually an hour or 2from global since the retard is a wagie

>>39512096
>when even JP girls can't do 3D properly
Yes they can

>sap away enormous amount of cash for their fucking game
it's their money, after giving the girls their cut

>>39511459
It's a bit too late for HoloKR now I think.
The best time was around mid 2021, right after the whole med student murder thing.
I feel like they could have popped up a small 3 person gen just to test the waters, but I assume Yagoo wasn't really ready to cut them off if they didn't work out.
And as with all things, opportunity cost is a big deal, and if he wasn't guaranteed that HoloKR had some demand, then he probably didn't want to commit.
Unfortunately he might also have seen Nijisanji's pathetic attempt and written off the market as well.

my cute wife

>39512096
BAIT. shit bait even.

We may never get the old Kronii back.

>>39511788
if it was skinwalkers they'd get Ina in there
probably just four different recordings stitched together

>>39512145
I MISS KRONII

>>39512145
Truth be told the new Kronii is the same as the old Kronii, except she alienated part of the audience.
Unless you mean the "Kronii before swearing off Minecraft" from pre Nov 2021. Then, yeah, that's a shame

>>39512121
I still feel that what happened with HoloCN soured yagoo and covers taste for opening branches in countries with a problematic history with japan.

>>39512179
There is also the fact that it takes a lot of traveling and meeting the locals to set up a structure in a foreign country and there was no travelling in late 2020 and all of 2021

>>39512038
You ever think about a different timeline where Pekora can sing, do ASMR and collab a lot but she would be a mid-tier Holo at best, basically the opposite of this Pekora. Her fate would be quite different

>>39512179
that's why yagoo should do HoloES instead

>>39512028
I hope so

>>39512224
KEK; right?
>pic unrelated

Actually, along with Midori from Shirobako, she also looks like Tsubame from New Game, but again, that's not a very popular character either so not too many lewds there.

>>39510093
>blue hair
>side ponytail
>can hold a note
Ok, i can very slightly see the Suisei resemblance, but it's all very shallow.
>has a battle maid alt
Does Suisei know her?

https://twitter.com/ceresfauna/status/1606165472646266880

>>39512337
I am sweet on Fauna

Imagine if theres holo india instead of korea their stream would be like
"Hello friends to day im going to teach you (insert tech stuff here),click like and subscribe"

>>39512337
I miss FauFau

>>39512337
https://twitter.com/ceresfauna/status/1606166390368518146

>>39512272
Pekora already have the backing of Argentina
It can be done

>>39511839
Definitely not Twitter or Cafe Naver, they could get caught there.
>>39510093
And this is the only postable one from Pixiv.

>>39512356
PLEASE SIR, DO NOT REDEEM!

>>39511839
On their own message boards duh

>>39509999
>>39510000

holy incline!

https://twitter.com/operagxofficial/status/1606274273261146113

>Opera simping for the orca

>>39512530
The second NijiEN tierlist today... bravo.

>>39512530
All natural baby

>>39512648
Was hoping for the other orca

>>39512648
The other orca or a real orca would have been better

>>39512648
>Click embed expecting Chole
>It's the poor man's Veibae instead

>>39512648
I get sad seeing the word orca

>>39512681
N A T U R A L

Wait, Vox got only 14k with fucking karaoke? What happened? Did every single sister drop him all of a sudden?

https://twitter.com/irys_en/status/1606324645786951682
Based

>>39512356
their catchphrase should be "good morning sirs!"

>>39512648
KEK
Looks like the biggest soiboy

>>39512792

>>39502990

>>39511475
we love your cute wife here

>>39512516
towa banana..

>>39512648
the queen of EN vtubing

>>39512792
The top dog is culled 90% anon.

think any other holo ENs quietly went to japan?

>>39512976
yeah, vox is one of the only EN vtubers with a confirmed cull. selen is the other one.

>>39512995
Yes.

>>39512995
nah. gura is sick, kiara is still in austria, ame just did a handcam stream with her new setup at her house and mori goes back and forth all the time anyway. IRyS lives there already and there's no reason for Council to ever go there.

>>39512995
In Japan right now?
No.
Kiara won't be quiet about coming in next week, but I could see Ame arriving in a few weeks given she just got vaxxmaxxed and has always talked about going, but she seems at home right now. Council, not seeing any likely candidates outside of Bae who claims not to be going anytime soon.

just got back. wtf happened with the timestamp here. not adjusted to my local. backreading hella be confusing

>>39512691
>>39512707
>>39512710
>>39512744
>HoloJP
>Anywhere that requires EN clout
Kek, Code Miko has a higher chance to appear anon

https://twitter.com/ninomaeinanis/status/1605553502289158144
Ah
So that's why

>>39513164
It's on (You)
Go to Setting> Misc > Convert to local time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIg9CbRm9cU
yooo

>>39513206
imageboard, mate! Also
>views now rolled up to desktop users as well
neat!

>>39513346
I legit love Noel.

>>39513346
I kneel.

>kuzuha BTFO'd the rabbit twice in one day
>luxiem stomped holoEN into the ground yet again
what a bad day to be a holo fan.

>>39513362
No, really, she not only finds exceptional games but games that fit her lore as well

>>39513346

>>39513346
Number will be shit, but damn it feels like 2019 again

>>39513388
How did she even find out about this game anyway?

>>39513249
it's checked by default it seems. my emulator has correct time, but not here

>>39513412
>He doesn't know

>>39513412
More likely than not, browsing the permissions list and checking for lore appropriate themes

69 is nice and all. But seriously what happened to Mooms numbers?

>>39513412
>>39513388
She have always famous for the knightly game playthrough. Soul series and DQ are the 2 off the top of my head

Another easy 20k+ EN gold for nijisanji

>>39513475
yeah, council didn't do as well as they expected.

https://youtu.be/pO13LjByCSg real reason behind pekomiko falling out

>>39513512
The sisters fucking love singing

>>39510093
kingbros...what the fuck happened

>>39513570
>zhang shit
EW!

Vox proving that the zhang market is absolutely dogshit and they will randomly abandon you at any given moment.

>>39513088
I remember at least one of Council member saying that they were going to Japan, although I don't remember exactly who. They have their 3D during HoloFes4, so they are bound to head there eventually, no?
(Pretty sure IRyS said she was planning have a hot spring trip with HoloEN members, too. Mentioned how one of them were really against naked hot spring)

>>39513346
Bless her love for From titles.

>>39513570
I see the zhangs are no different from us

>>39513677
>They have their 3D during HoloFes4, so they are bound to head there eventually, no?
could just do what Myth did and get a local studio
(Or, more likely, already have done what Myth did)

>>39513346
How can one big titty woman be so based

>>39513670
Anon, we have the entire second half of 2020 as proof for that
Vox ain't proving shit

>>39513802
Luxiem completely flattened HoloEN this month though.

>>39513862
Not exactly hard to beat a flatline though.

>>39513862
Truth be told the only global gold for NijiEN was
>Fulgur
wasn't it?
Kneel?

>>39513683
automatically read titties for obvious reasons

>>39513862
I mean whatever helps you sleep at night sister. XSoleil was yet another complete fucking flop and even during their anniversary Luxiem underperformed with Vox now struggling to beat 10k with his coomer ASMR and 14k with karaoke.
You won against a HoloEN that isn't even trying and has 3/4 of their talents on hiatus.

>>39513862
holowhores MOGGED by the Kings of China

>>39513598
>>39513715
retards

We always talk about cull but let’s change it up a bit today. We can’t let bots run rampant but at the same time Youtube is culling bot the wrong way that it also affect actual viewers
So /#/, what would you choose to be the deciding factor that differentiate between bots and actual human viewers? There must be a different somewhere

>>39514272
Any stream with slow verification is obviously botted. We should strike any stream that takes more than 3 minutes to surpass waiting room numbers from the tally from now on.

>>39514272
Holo views = legit
Nijo views = bots
Simple as

>>39514272
I can't answer to your question but I can answer what Youtube should NOT be doing
>considering a logged in account with an active paid subscription to Youtube Premium and an active membership to a certain channel a "spam viewer" of that same channel
That's like the basic bitch of bot detection,
>are we collecting money from this account for the past X months on a recurring basis?
>NOT BOT!

What went wrong? A first army member should never get karaoke numbers this low.

>>39514440
Why not?

>>39514481
she should easily be able to hit 40k with buff content like this.

>>39514514
Why 40k?

>>39514514
>40k
She's not Suisei anon...

Is there any /#/ archive besides the posts on this thread?
It would be cool to keep something not owned by Japanese fucks who deletes their stuff for no reason.
I just saw some shit in the catalog about vtuber history and I wonder if things are still being archived, or it will be gone forever and everybody will soon be brainwashed by private groups of sexually confused individuals.
Test
>>39493318 >>39493588 >>39494773
>>39495700 >>39496287 >>39496297
>>39496363 >>39497261 >>39497303
>>39500947 >>39501206 >>39501266
>>39501319 >>39501499 >>39501863
>>39502675 >>39502704 >>39502875
>>39502938 >>39503344 >>39505758
If this is not archived then soon they will change the mindchair here too.

>>39512691
>>39512707
>>39512710
>>39512744
Not a change. Opera is a Chinese browser.
It's the best experience you can have in exchange for your data.

>>39513160
I still get sad whenever I hear about chuubas getting vaxx...

>>39514741
gottra do what you gotta do

>>39514577
If you are as newfag to ask about archives you will have to lurk some seventy more years before posting again in this thread, site and board

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxE0lADzrh0
Giri Giri Watame S3 in January.

>>39514892
Giri Giri Watame sucks man

>>39514911

>>39514892
Kino is back!

>>39514911
name of your oshi?

>>39514911
Man? That's me.

lol.

>>39514911

>>39514931
IRyS

>>39514987
Where is this from?

So, why did Milord's unarchived Christmas karaoke failt to hit 15k anyway?

>>39515011
Watamage can read minds and for a brief second you thought of your real oshi
>Enna
Better luck next time!

>>39514987
How the fuck?

>>39514987
You gotta play the video to get a view.
An impression is instant.

>>39515074
it starts with a "b"

>>39515074
Impression means "passed through your scroll scroll scroll"
View means you stopped and watched a couple of seconds

>>39515063
NOOOOOOOOOO SPARE ME WATAMAGE YOU ALREADY TOOK HER FROM ME ONCE AGMHHHHHHHSHSHSHEH

>>39515074
Those new twitter views count everyone who sees the tweet even if you just scroll past it.
Imagine if YouTube videos got views whenever you saw the thumbnail of the video somewhere.

>>39515175
>Imagine if YouTube videos got views whenever you saw the thumbnail of the video somewhere.
isn't that just twitch?

>>39515175
They have that in the analytics, they call it "impressions"

>>39514931
Ennal.

>>39515084
It's autoplay.

>>39514885
I'm asking for something like 4cc archive
All those sites in the OP will be dead soon and the usual archive for 4chan posts keeps deleting random shit

>>39512022
>tempus
>external

I wish

>>39515324
>All those sites in the OP will be dead soon
Do you know something most people don't?

>>39515324
>All those sites in the OP will be dead soon
Just like VNUMA.

Don't worry, it will live in your memory forever

>>39510093
>131,810: Ai (Kizuna AI) - Feb 26, 2022
>89,714: Ui (Indie) - Jan 16, 2022
>72,400: Lilpa (Isegye Idol) - Dec 23, 2022
So, excluding Converts, VG companies and 1/2 Vtubers like the Strawberry boys,
This was the 3rd All time Youtube stream by someone outside Niji, Holo and Hal?

Or am i missing someone?

>>39510201
It's kinda funny that holo JP use reddit more than EN

You know seeing the declining karaoke and hand cam numbers for Vox , Mysta and Luca makes me wonder have Shu or Ike ever done hand cam streams and has Shu ever done unarchive karaoke streams

>>39515516
>14k is bad now

>>39515561
compare all Vox's karaoke streams

Here is one to remember people of when Kronii put some effort
>Ouro Kronii's Unofficial Old Spice Ad | Hololive EN Fan Animation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuHcsbFgMhg

Lots of stuff based on Kronii and Gura old streams popping up recently, for Gura it's clips mostly but for Kronii stuff like this too.

Istg everytime I see this bitch on my timeline she's always complaining about not being able to whore herself out without consequences.

>>39515639
Just unfollow her?

>>39515639
tiktok hates vtubers, why the fuck she's using it?

>>39515674

>>39515639
What's a FY page?

>JWU
>Vox karaokes are now IRyS tier, not even half of Mysta's, lost to fucking Luca's
>Kiara Holotalk gigaflop, barely better than Ame solo Geoguesser
>Meloco is a fucking Lucub and her PL fans are committing suicide
>Fucking Koreans got global gold
>Pekora flopped with 2 sub 29k streams and now has a sub 30k median for the month
Did I miss anything?

>>39515639
Istg?

>>39515712
I'm sure there was a way to turn this off because I never see anyone I don't follow, but I can't find it right now either

>>39514577
what are you even asking for exactly? warosu?

>>39515714
I don't use tiktok but my guess is "for you" aka tailored recommendations.

>aloucuck abandoning enna due to blatant cuckening
>picks up meloco
>picrel

aloucuck, looks like you gathered too much bad karma

Now i remind you guys of TEMPISS TWITCH TAKEOVER plan. All channels abandoned btw.

>>39515712
You know who else follows Shililly?
>It's Gura
Korean Gura to be precise.
That's a lot of Koreans actually, damn.

Anyway, i was getting at, she's a big name in the industry and a lot of other big creators will follow her, like Emiru, Tectone and ZilverK.

>>39515943
Did they flirt or was it wholesome

EN will be going into it's golden age soon in 2023. With new glorious arcs when EN3 and HoloKR release. Be ready bros. HoloKR will be made up of graduated chuubas in Sana, Coco, Rushia and Aloe to save on production

>>39515943
The thing I hate the most is the use of p*gchamp

>>39515964
>NijiCN
>wholesome

>>39513346
BASED
>BASED
BASED
>BASED

>>39515955
Good, fuck Altare and fuck Magni. Vesper, Vox, Shu, Axel would have been the perfect Tempus if they debuted it when they were supposed to back in November 2021 and then EN3 in July 2022.

>>39515984
>Rushia
>graduated

>>39515955
They only wanted to reel in some people to leech from

>>39515989

>>39516033
fuck off mate

>>39515989
I prefer "champion of the pog" myself.

>>39515984
Wasn't 2022 supposed to be "the year of Stars", hopefully that shit is over

>>39515955
They never promised to keep making content in there. Vesper didn't even want to participate in the first place.

>>39515516
Shu and ike have yet to do both hand cam and unarchived karaokes

>>39516086
Well since Council did so fucking bad they decided to skip a whole year for another EN gen. EN is now the longest amount of days between gens and it's still counting.

>>39516121
Cope.
They all failed miserably. No exceptions.

>>39515930
>warosu?
No, something like a wiki.

>>39516254
yeah, council didn't do as well as they expected.

Just finished Quintessential Quintuplets movie.
Cant we have a harem inside Hololive nowadays, we had Okayu and Flare with harem, nowadays romance is missing and the girls are just not interacting like that

>>39516254
Yeah, same with HoloX. Both huge flops, otherwise JP7 would be out by now.

>>39515941
Damn, I wish tiktok recommended me tiddies. I always gotta go searching for 'em.

>>39515476
>This was the 3rd All time Youtube stream by someone outside Niji, Holo and Hal?

Here are all of the streams over 50k on record, excluding those by NIjisanji or Hololive

>peak :: date :: nameEn :: title :: video_id :: org :: group
>167943 :: 2022-04-17 :: Shibuya HAL :: APEX LEGENDS VTuber最協決定戦 ver.APEX LEGENDS Season4 #V最協S4 :: _NIbMnzuVB0 :: Neo-Porte :: Neo-Porte
>132939 :: 2021-08-22 :: Shibuya HAL :: APEX LEGENDS VTuber最協決定戦 ver.APEX LEGENDS Season3 #V最協S3 :: znopYXcWXtQ :: Neo-Porte :: Neo-Porte
>131810 :: 2022-02-26 :: Kizuna AI :: Kizuna AI The Last Live “hello world 2022” :: GTa2HxIsBPM :: Kizuna Ai Inc. :: Kizuna Ai Inc.
>114763 :: 2022-03-18 :: Shibuya HAL :: VTuber最協決定戦 ver.APEX LEGENDS Season4 出場チーム発表配信 :: jV0qwyqSsi4 :: Neo-Porte :: Neo-Porte
>95384 :: 2022-04-03 :: Shibuya HAL :: 【APEX LEGENDS】#V最協S4 ランドマークドラフト :: h_GpP_sQGiQ :: Neo-Porte :: Neo-Porte
>89093 :: 2022-01-16 :: Shigure Ui :: 【#しぐれうい3D】やっと目が合ったね :: NmP_EJdcE6E :: Indie :: Indie
>88491 :: 2022-01-13 :: Shibuya HAL :: 【APEX LEGENDS】CRカップ くじ引き会場 :: 4O0kY7OA5xs :: Neo-Porte :: Neo-Porte
>72515 :: 2021-08-10 :: Shibuya HAL :: 【APEX LEGENDS】V最協S3 ランドマークくじ引き :: s0yL1tLmm1A :: Neo-Porte :: Neo-Porte
>72400 :: 2022-12-23 :: Lilpa :: DREAM AGAIN - 릴파 1st콘서트 :: SLa8fe1Z2XE :: Isegye Idol :: Isegye Idol
>67297 :: 2022-05-27 :: Inuyama Tamaki :: 【だるまいずごっど】だるま襲来!?愉快なしゃべりの凄腕元プロゲーマー&元アジア1位!#だるたま 対談バトル!! :: Tc7-gDSViZ4 :: NoriPro :: NoriPro
>66639 :: 2022-06-24 :: Nekota Tsuna :: 【初配信】デビューしました!猫汰つなです。 :: zAmNGaw-6qQ :: Brave Group :: VSPO
>62780 :: 2021-08-23 :: Shibuya HAL :: 【APEX LEGENDS】VTuber最協決定戦 ver.APEX LEGENDS Season3 後夜祭 :: OsUzyxTLNak :: Neo-Porte :: Neo-Porte
>57054 :: 2021-10-03 :: Shibuya HAL :: 【APEX LEGENDS】CRカップ くじ引きランドマーク :: Orckx8BQKzU :: Neo-Porte :: Neo-Porte
>56583 :: 2022-09-12 :: Tsukasa Tenkai :: 【#神域リーグ 最終節】 第28試合~第30試合 :: VpjCmqV0oxI :: Indie :: Indie
>55666 :: 2021-09-23 :: Ren Kisaragi :: ぶいすぽっ!秋の抜き打ちテスト~抜け出せ学力ブロンズ帯~ #ぶいすぽ学力テスト :: oHP7u5zHYSY :: Brave Group :: VSPO
>54316 :: 2022-07-24 :: Aizawa Ema :: 【#藍沢エマ新衣装】初めてのお衣装チェンジ...! :: khF7WfDjoqI :: Brave Group :: VSPO
>52902 :: 2022-08-25 :: Shiranami Ramune :: 【初配信】白波らむね です!!デビューしますっ!!!! :: mQAhby98UXg :: Brave Group :: VSPO
>52338 :: 2022-04-16 :: Shibuya HAL :: 【APEX LEGENDS】#V最協S4 前夜祭 :: 6iRVY2qq_5A :: Neo-Porte :: Neo-Porte
>51947 :: 2022-08-05 :: Tsukasa Tenkai :: 【#にじさんじ甲子園】熱狂!にじさんじ甲子園2022 Vol.8 :: cq2j9NUx928 :: Indie :: Indie
>51670 :: 2021-12-15 :: Shibuya HAL :: KNRから大事な発表があります :: aIsc4pNiUT4 :: Neo-Porte :: Neo-Porte

Lilpa is the #9 in this list

>>39510027
FILIAN RE-ACCELERATING!!!
LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOO!!!!!

>>39515955
A ton of Holos made twitch accounts like a year ago. But the only ones who still use it are Miko and Lamy for their weekly watchalongs.

>>39516298
This ain't 2004 /b/ my guy there is no encyclopedia dramatica for 4chan vtuber culture

>>39516382
HoloX was a huge success. They have some of the highest CCV ever recorded in the vtuber world and Koyori is essentially a first army member now.

>>39516382
At least HoloX has all of its members kek. Council couldn't even make it to its 1st anni with all of its members.

>>39513206
so... that song isn't getting an mv and it's also not getting posted on her channel,right?

>>39516439
Every fucking Holo should be using watch parties. It's a no fucking brainer. Watchalongs are so much better when you can actually watch the content on the same screen as the chuba's reactions.

>>39516349
wont happen unless they get actual lesbos. keeping up an act for long periods of time is draining so they eventually drop it. if you get a harem itll be one of the Tempus guys and his whores

>>39516403
>Most of these are Hal
Ok, so yeah 3rd without him.
When's Hal going to hit 100k again?
Does Vsaikyo 5 have a chance? hard mode: No Startend

>>39516490
its a feat., would be weird to put it on her channel

>>39516479
that's the difference between an idol group and some loosely affiliated content creators.

>>39516298
a wiki for what lol, dumb rrats?

>didn't break 15k on a karaoke
voxchama...this is literally the most hyper of NijiEN buffs...and you are their star...

>>39516479
>At least HoloX has all of its members
For now

>>39516479
They at least made it further than Gen 5.

>>39516479
4 is better than 5

Huh. Never knew they were the same artist.

>>39516536
>Does Vsaikyo 5 have a chance?
RUMAO. Apex is fucking dead.

>>39515476
You guys told me Kizuna Ai was dead

>>39516403
>>67297 :: 2022-05-27 :: Inuyama Tamaki ::
That one was wild because of how easily it was brushed off.

This was during Daruma's popularity peak, after Rust, and on a team with Towa and Arisaka.
Plus, tourists were using Tamaki's streams as a waiting room for Salome's 100k+ midnight streams.

What was the context for that Korean twitch vtuber to get 70k? 3D debut? And why on youtube?

Update for the nijiEN meet and greet slots
Old stocks >>39480421
Iniital stocks for the meet and greets for the girls are 15 per slot based on Elira's initial stock count for a total of 90 slots per talent amounting to $4,500 if they sell out.
They really are milking the boys as they also have 15 slots even if the time period is only 25 minutes based on Fulgur's initial stock count. With 8 time slots they each sold $6,000 once they sell out.

Sold out:
Pomu, Enna, Millie, Elira, Alban, Uki, Sonny, Fulgur

Fulgur - Sold out
12:30PM (12:15PM Lineup) - 0 (Sold 15)
12:55PM (12:45PM Lineup) - 0 (Sold 15)
1:20PM (1:10PM Lineup) - 0 (Sold 15)
1:45PM (1:35PM Lineup) - 0 (Sold 15)
3:00PM (2:45PM Lineup) - 0 (Sold 15)
3:25PM (3:15PM Lineup) - 0 (Sold 15)
3:40PM (3:30PM Lineup) - 0 (Sold 15)
4:00PM (3:45PM Lineup) - 0 (Sold 15)

Nina
12:00PM (11:45AM Lineup) - 0
12:30PM (12:15PM Lineup) - 6
1:00PM (12:45PM Lineup) - 0
2:00PM (1:45PM Lineup) - 0
2:30PM (2:15PM Lineup) - 6 (Sold 1)
3:00PM (2:45PM Lineup) - 0 (Sold 1)

Reimu - No new slots sold since the last four updates
12:00PM (11:45AM Lineup) - 7
12:30PM (12:15PM Lineup) - 11
1:00PM (12:45PM Lineup) - 3
2:00PM (1:45PM Lineup) - 6
2:30PM (2:15PM Lineup) - 8
3:00PM (2:45PM Lineup) - 7

Finana - No new slots sold since the last update
12:00PM (11:45AM Lineup) - 2
12:30PM (12:15PM Lineup) - 2
1:00PM (12:45PM Lineup) - 0
2:00PM (1:45PM Lineup) - 0
2:30PM (2:15PM Lineup) - 0
3:00PM (2:45PM Lineup) - 0

>>39516545
>content creators
>council

What content? I might as well be watching white girls stream their day out to a starbucks or bed bath and beyond with that level of content.

>>39516536
Is the next Vsaikyo actually happening? I thought he stopped cause EA/Respawn was being fucking retarded and changed some legalities of tournaments and some specifics that affected Hal from doing more.

>>39516652
Twitch doesn't allow concerts and yeah 3D Concert. Isegye are 10-15k ccv on Twitch.

>>39516680
>Twitch doesn't allow concerts
Why??

>>39516653
People instantly sell or or don't sell out at all. Millie was the only one that took a little bit to sell out right? These bottom dwellers really are hated aren't they?

>>39516633
Nah, you can buy her soulless rhythm game in a couple months, anon.

>>39516694
metallica

>>39516680
Twitch does allow concerts. They don't allow VODs for Koreans due to some tax changes the Korean government made.

my cute wife

>>39516530
Except it almost never works if you're in a different country.
Even when you have the same movie on your amazon prime it might still not work because they're watching the Japanese Dub version.

>>39516720
>soulless
Fuck off Holobrony

>>39516578
Cope. Council is the reason why EN3 wasn't even on the radar for Cover in 2022.

>>39516530
Watch parties suck if your audience isn’t all from the same country.

>>39516680
>Twitch doesn't allow concerts
IT does, they used to do them on Twitch.
>>39511564

>>39516783
yeah, council bombed hard. biggest laughing stock in vtubing history.

>>39516783
You didn't answer my question. Where was JP7 in 2022 then?

>>39511564
>higher numbers on YouTube
There goes the Twitch has no cull cope

>>39516633
Just because a Vocaloid streams on her channel doesn't mean she lives anon.

>>39516694
Normally VODs get copyrighted music muted automatically, plus their VOD only lasts a couple of months, AND SK exclusively has a retarded no VOD policy

>>39516776
Enjoy your souless husk, zhang.

>>39516479
Laplus...4/4...

>>39516870
Laplus is still around. She's going to be at Holofes, unlilke Sana.

>>39516703
Yup, I think all the people who sold out did so with a day with Millie taking 22 hours to sell out based on the Anime Impulse twitter

>>39516633
She is, but her corpse is still getting paraded around

>>39512007
At least you have someone to leech off isegye

Why did the sisters deflect to shitting on Council and HoloX just because 1 (one) person made a snide remark about Stars?
Are they really that sensitive?

>>39516820
JP will take longer because they already have 30+ members. We should see JP7 before EN3 so don't worry kek.

>>39513206
oh hey we can see impressions n shit now
I wonder if this can be used to finally put to rest the fabled "niji twitter likes" phenomenon.

>>39516349
They won't that anymore because it caused "trouble" in the past.
Right after Okayu started to be more open about their lewd interactions (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmA2D4xjvLk)) some gachikois chimped out, Korone got scared and Okayu had to backpedal.
Korone is very paranoid about antis and ever since she stopped being so clingy to Okayu and talking about going out with the girls on stream.
Said gachikois already fucked off to another fad.
Flare felt like people were seeing her as a man and not a cute girl so she stopped the interactions with Noel on stream. This was thanks to the woke gang flood back then.

>>39516833
Twitch doesn't have any cull. You can tab out and be muted and still count. I got 100 hours 'watched" for Ironmouse doing that. What twitch does does have is a very low ceiling for vtubers.

>>39516939
JP7 in January. Some of the JP girls are already talking about new kouhai, so it must be happening very soon.

>>39516936
Who said something about Stars?

>>39516973
They can afford to bring in more talent. Unlike the lesser branches that can't even muster up a sizeable box anymore. EN is nothing without Gura which is sad.

>>39516783
Council didn't do as well as they expected so instead of EN3 we have Tempus.

>>39516973
I'd expect JP7 like mid-year. EN3 in Q1. ID4/Stars EN2 Q4 This time for real.

>>39516298
imageposts are how most of this board's history is saved
shit like this pic from back in 2020
or that baby mom vtuber thread with the tranny
or 2017 Sora Christmas miracle collection
A certain few people would have saved most of these images (including yours truly) in order to bring them out and set things straight if it feels like newfags are starting to outnumber original fans.
You can join the club if you want.

https://youtu.be/ueqSdNFSppc

>>39516973
JP7 is gonna be announced on Holofes

>>39517001
Right here:
>>39516086
And then people started talking about Council for no reason here:
>>39516254
And then another deflection to HoloX right after that
It's so obvious

>>39514987
kek, still sphagetti

>>39516349
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQOoKp8DPTs

>>39517074
El Pomito?

>>39517043
>EN3
>Q1

I doubt EN3 is even going to be a thing. If anything a new branch is going to spring up so the main JP branch can have new shiny toys to play with. EN is done for 100%.