/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *
>39,051: Watame (Hololive)
>34,814: Miko (Hololive)
>33,564: Gaku (Nijisanji)
>29,658: Okayu (Hololive)
>22,152: Salome (Nijisanji)
>19,154: Nene (Hololive)
>18,220: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>17,846: Lui (Hololive)
>17,167: Kanata (Hololive)
>16,672: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>15,681: Sister Claire (Nijisanji)
>14,182: Furen (Nijisanji)
>13,043: Towa (Hololive)
>11,870: Hal (Neo Porte)
>11,101: Koyori (Hololive)
>10,571: Ame (Hololive)

A reminder that using "livers" to refer to vtubers is absolutely retarded.

How high will the Luxiem buff take her /#/?

Bae's not a JK yet
It's kinda funny how she continues to be drawn bigger than she is in fanart, and Mumei gets nerfed (sometimes even flat), when they're basically the same size.
Bae's short tho so she wins the shortstack race

>>39467109
I agree. "Kidneys" is way better.

>>39467334 (me)
I was wrong, apparently Mumei is only 156cm? I thought she was tall.

>>39467349
I prefer testicles

I love my WifeRyS

>>39467334
proof?

>>39467334
>Bae's not a JK
Bullshit.

pom....

>>39467649
She’s kind of short and kind of flat, sure, but for Asian girl stats (or at least, the kind of exaggerated standards they have for anime girls in those stats sections at the end of manga tankobon), she’s well within the range to be a kind of short, kind of flat high schooler.

>>39467557
here's your proof

>>39467738
What do you think JK means?

Everyday I love my wife

>>39467649
Maybe her casual will be. Dunno if Mika can settle for something so basic, I don't think school uniforms are her style.
>>39467738
Uh neither of them are flat, or small for that matter.

>>39467831
Just Khaos

So what did we learn from the last thread anons?

Good god, this thread is fucking dead

>>39468032
Even if people don't interact with holo tweets they still get viewed more than most of niji ones

>>39468078
There is nothing going on right now. Next holo stream isn't for another hour, and it's a shill stream by Calli. The game is fun though.

>>39468078
what's there to talk about? there's no news, drama or stream to watch.

>thread created 30 minutes ago
>21 replies
Is it because of the people banned in that bae catalog thread lol
I know at least 2 of you faggots were regulars here

Yagoo...JP7..Onegai

>>39468205
its better this way

>>39467375
She's sometimes drawn close to the same height as Kronii for shipping reasons.

>>39468205
>that bae catalog thread
What did i miss?

>>39468254
JP7 next month. They're next in line and it works out nicely with Holofes in March.

>>39468193
>It's the 23rd
Lilpa concert on YT today. Could break 30k.
Any chance it medals? What other contenders are there?

>>39468384
no

>>39468205
This one? Doesn't look too bad.
>>39437164

>>39468414
niji 3D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejyiAfQy3DI
Mumei Love & Misses Fauna.

>>39468530
Oh yeah, it's friday.
Guessing it's Kohaku? The Selejo blonde?
Could be tight race.

>>39468541
>Mori
Fuck, we were this close to some nice Faumei...

JP7 January
EN3 never

>>39468541

>>39468414
Not really a contender, but new Aki hairstyle in the evening. It won't get gold but it is important.

absolutely effortless 1800 for Aia and Ike.

>>39468655
>Mumei
>Fauna
Jesas, this is going to get ugly

>>39468655
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbJqGGRQ32k&feature=emb_title

>Twitter has views now
https://twitter.com/alban_knox/status/1606042301406420992

>>39468876
>anons are going to numberfag tweets now
i really hope not

>>39468078
Even numberfags have families to go visit on the holiday break, anon.

>>39468943

>>39467098
>>39467058
>>39467064
Japan makes the idea of a 30-something gf who wants to get married and have kids (with me) so attractive.

>>39468768
What? Mumei can sing.

>>39468876
Time to numberfag tweets!

>>39468943
just laugh when they do

>>39468337
If they're gonna increase her hight they might as well increase the rest too.

>>39468943
>now

>>39469033
can the phone anon get us how many "views" this one got?

So yesterday was Ame, Gura, IRyS, and Kiara. Today is Moom, Fauna, and Mori. Tomorrow is Bae and Kronii then?

>>39469075
Bae, Kronii, and Regis

>>39469075
Most likely. Maybe Ina since she might have done some recording, but I wouldn't bet on it.

>>39468876
>Twitter introduces new Blue system
>it blows up almost instantly and takes a month to try again
>Twitter suggests adding 4,000 characters
>gets hated so much it drops the idea for now
>Twitter decides to ban spaces, brings them back less than 24 hours later
>Twitter tries to ban linktrees and other sites being shown, gets revoked less than 24 hours later
Odds of this system being fucking broken and thrown out in days like almost everything else? God, how the fuck does it keep fucking up more and more.

>2 million views
>60k likes
Hmm

What the absolute fuck is wrong with IRyS that she couldn't even be there for the advent that announced her cover? I get Gura, but not IRyS. Even Fauna fucking showed up to this one even though she's clearly not at home.

>>39469007
Not in Japanese

>>39469191
shameless crossposting

>>39469199
Anon she's the busiest EN with her vsinger role

>>39469223
I didn't make it he just stole my pic

>>39469216
Ah, I disagree but fair opinion. I like her voice in Dilemma.

>>39468541
Well, I guess Mori was bearable in this one.

>>39469158
What was the justification for killing spaces?

>>39469216
I highly disagree.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_MPvKf0IDE

>>39469332
The CEO jumped into a space where someone he didn't like was hosting, and said CEO wasn't allowed to talk, so he shut the whole program down to shut it down.
Wacky shit.

>>39469332
They didn’t kill anything. It was down off and on for like 24 hours due for fixes and everyone threw a fit.

>>39468655
>>39468826
Is this Fauna's fourth song ever?

>>39469216
retard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-bBKa8Bb_Q

Are we going to keep track of tweet views now too

>the group with Gura gets Snow Halation while the other groups get less popular songs
You can tell that management put it together

>>39469566
I'd rather fucking die

>>39469566
twitter numbers are utterly meaningless. we've known this for a long, long, long time.

>>39469191
So this is the power of hololive

>hololive is the only place where chuuba would take a break because of stress from streaming
>most chuubas in hololive are also not fond of their fans and often tries to lecture them to behave
Holonigs is the worst fanbase in vtubing, even their oshi can't stand them

>>39469566
No people will just selectively shitpost with it but no one will make any concerted effort to methodically track it, just like almost every other statistic.

>>39469566
Thanks for the explanation

>>39469425
No he shut it down because spaces still allowed people who are banned to participate in them and he didn't like that some people are using spaces to get around getting banned

>>39469576
>management forgot to include IRyS as a guest in the first post
Probably.

>>39469611
No, but unironically, I don't understand the mindset of this fucking guy.
>claim Twitter is filled to the fucking brim with bots, claim it makes everything worthless in terms of impressions (IMPRESSIONS ARE VIEWS)
>buy it
>cull majority of the staff (meaning less people to purge bots)
>pledge to ban less stuff (meaning more bots can get away with more stuff)
>THEN decide to make views public
What is the logic here, does he think buying the site means the bots got flushed away

>>39469566
Nah, it'll just be disregarded as coep, as it should.

Predictions on irys Christmas sweater review?

>>39469692
5.9k peak without funnels

>>39468943
>numberfags are so mindbroken by Susan, they think twitter's VOD views are "inflated" and an anomaly.

So apparently Pomu was supposed to appear on Kiara's Club House stream yesterday but the Lazulight collab prevented her for appearing

>>39469692
less than vox's 70k

https://twitter.com/shirakamifubuki/status/1605878073815355393
>3 million views
Twitter queen

>>39469512
1. Let Me Stay Here
2. Rise
3. Cute Na Kanojo

yeah

>>39469692
If its anything like mumeis santa letter shit probably even sub 10k but the funnel from mori will probably save her anyway

>>39469721
good. nijis should stay the fuck away from holoEN streams.

Tempiss christmas doko?

>>39469721
Pomu....

>>39469512
>>39469738
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-9M-BjFYMc
It's her fifth Council also did Hikaru Naru.

First of all, I apologise deeply for all the people who I made uncomfortable with my video.

I’ll refrain from mentioning the name of the person in question, but by covering the contents of a superchat which professed their love to them, I made many people uncomfortable. This situation started from a great misunderstanding of mine. In seeing that liver’s profession that they thought it’d be nice if people used the song to get people who didn’t know them to know them, I felt deeply impressed by their wonderful way of thinking. Thinking about it now, they may have said it as half sophistry.

As for what I did wrong, that was in thinking “to accept even content like this, how admirable, I would love to sing this song”. That was really stupid.

After that, I received permission from the composer, created the video and released the song. Just as it happened in the last few days, that caused the discomfort of many people. There was also the fact that the origin of the content was of an anonymous message board and there were many voices expressing that I should’ve anticipated the backlash it would’ve provoked. Thinking about it now, I really think that it is as they say.

To speak of my thinking at the time, I was really stupid for seriously thinking such things about a song which was born from a place that’s said to produce things equal to scribbles in the toilet. Calmly reflecting back on it right now, I feel that my reasoning was bit a convenient misunderstanding for myself and even reads as an excuse. It was really terrible.

I believe that I have the need to cool my head so I shall be taking a break for a while. Of course, I’m sure there will be many of the opinion that just the content of this video isn’t enough of an explanation, so I intend to provide further explanation upon returning with a cooler head.

Once again, I caused a great number of people many troubles this time round and I am deeply sorry for it.

Is Nonfiction the last HoloEN group song to really pop off?

>>39469799
God I knew I was forgetting something but fuck that cover and fuck that overrated as fuck song

>>39469667
>dealing with fucking ban evading now
Imagine paying 44 billion dollars and losing billions in market share in other companies so that you can LARP as a fucking 4chan meido

>>39469715
shut the fuck up 2view shitter

>>39469852
That's an illegal 2k for Aia.

>>39469689
See the thing is he wasn't intending to buy twitter in the first place, him talking about buying twitter is a publicity stunt, kinda like when he talked about dogecoin back on the day. The difference is that unlike crypto you can't just make movements against corporate purchase and then back out of it at the last minute, there are laws against that sort of thing. So he e ended up getting forced to buy twitter, him talking about twitter being full of bots is him trying to get out of it under accusations of fraud. And of course once he bought twitter he realized that twitter is actually a net drain financially and so went about trying to cut costs aggressively

>>39469634
Mysta & Vox both took breaks recently cause they were having mental breakdowns.

>>39469634
good luck learning english!

>>39469852
MAGGED

>>39469890
Despite having the world's biggest number in terms of dollar wealth, it goes to show that bigger numbers don't make someone smarter.

>>39469883
Why bother when it isn't on the tally?

>>39469954
>muh tally

>>39469528
>4 months ago
>not even 500k
yeah, that's the actual problem

>>39469689
He's stuck between a rock and a hard place.
He was forced to buy twitter because twitter execs called his bluff and now he's stuck with a money drain with advertisers leaving.

>>39469739
>3 million views
>28k likes

Twitter views are pretty useless overall but there are some surface level insights that pop out immediately, even if they were pretty self-evident even before views were visible. For example, the view to like ratio of art is noticeably higher, so art posts can look more popular than they actually are

>>39469852
>king of the homo hill not hitting 3k on a game that has drawn crowds before
I mean, impressive in terms of their market cap, for sure, but kind of wack to see only a week or two after their return.

>>39470007
zhangs are still obessed

5k cripple gold tally is just bullshit tuned to the holokek average. So is the 10k on the main one now that i think about it. "durr my liver has a 5k average and a 13k ceiling, I am the best vtuber company"

>>39470086
The numbers are, indeed, tuned to favor numbers, anon. Insightful.

>>39470029
He already hit 3k, this is like 6 hours into it. Ame (and some others like Anya) already played this ages ago.

So can we use the view counts to see which Twitter accounts are basically dead (like does anyone even look at the holopro twitter) and also see if certain fanbases are more likely to like and retweet than others? Mostly I just want to see the difference between JP and EN or Niji vs Holo.

>>39470029
Here's your (you)

>>39470086
Yeah it should be 1k. We need 85 people on the tally every day.

>>39470151
niji twitter numbers are massively inflated. the date is basically worthless. even shitters like petra can get 30k likes on their posts.

https://twitter.com/oimo_0imo/status/1605813188204777473
Read the comments and laugh at nijiniggers
>h-h-hololive gets enough already! We need more content!
Is the general consensus kek

>>39469512
>>39469738
>>39469799
There's also Ochame Kinou.

>>39470189
You'd hate that because it would show that overall Nijisanji dominates the vtubing ladnscape

>>39470151
>we
You, mate. You do it

I don't think Pomu is hitting 2k without a raid or Z tonight.

>>39470219
Doesn't Niji get a Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuckton of art? To the tune of at some point fucking Fungus was mogging Gura in amount of daily twitter art posted.

https://youtu.be/HgG0ltV-eoc
This clip is unironically the most viewed non-animated non-shorts clip with a #Hololive tag in 2022.
And it's only 3 weeks old

>>39470218
Oh right, I completely forgot Council was part of that.

>>39470205
Overflated in what way? If you're talking about bots then that hasn't been proven. Overinflated as in the demographics of twitter favor NijiEN in terms of impressions? Fair enough, but that on its own is an interesting insight

>>39470219
TOP KEK

>>39470309
>30k likes on every tweet
>struggle to get 1k CCV on youtube

>>39470205
It will show the same thing as before: Niji btfos Hololive in twitter impressions on account of the fucking topic they have. Twitter just today showed me a bunch of niji tweets despite me never interacting with nijisanji nor following people who do. I am part of these "views" they got.

>>39470232
We can lower it to 50 and make sure to get in all ID/KR too. Unleash the true power of acceleration.

>>39470279
They do, and most of it isn't just garbage, it's actually good art made by actual artists and one that stands out for me is Hoshikawa, she gets drawn is frequently it's fucking insane

>>39468078
There is literally nothing else to talk about, even the most schizo shitposter must be tired of going through the same fucking timeloops over and over again.
>NijiEN is the usual, they completely depend on Luxiem and their big events to get some chink sisters. Their latest gens have been a complete failure.
>Tempus has its own shitty box now and arguing about wether or not they killed HoloEN is pointless.
>HoloEN is out of commission. The only hope left is for EN3 to come out and bring back some life into western vtubing, if they fail it's over and all that's left is watching some first army HoloJP take yet another gold with the occasional NijiJP event once every month.

>>39470339
Yes anon, that's why I brought up the argument of demographics. Moving users from one platform to another is always a struggle, and while I won't dismiss other theories it's within reason to assume that NijiEN can have more "stans" than HoloEN on twitter due to the demographics of the platform, but that it doesn't translate to actual viewership on Youtube

>>39470026
what we're seeing now is pure unfiltered numbers, it won't be long till k-pop fans abuse it and inflate numbers to hell to make Twitter take action against it.

Nice numbers miko
This had 167 replies too from 1 day ago I think

>>39470321
How tf do you hide the views

>>39470416
>mostly true
>kind of true but kind of weird
>wildly retarded or kind of true depending on the intended meaning
What, did you want to rekindle these fights with that post?

>>39470341
I constantly get Luxiem (and some Noctx) shit recommended to me despite not following any of them on twitter, simply because they're under "vtubers". I never get stuff for Niji EN girls. Never get stuff for Niji JP (unless it's huge like Koshien). Rarely get stuff Holo JP unless it's some big thing. Semi-rarely get Holo EN stuff even though I follow literally every memeber. But without fail, multiple times a day, Luxiem stuff. Fairly sure their fans are farming the topic to make sure it gets spread. Even blocking/muting the words doesn't stop it.

>>39468986
I know, right? Cartoons and Anime have spoiled me with these vignettes of gorgeous 10/10 women with likable personalities.

>>39470527
Update is rolling out in stages it seems, so he might not have it yet. But if you really wanted to hide it I'm sure you can with ublock or something similar.

>>39467895
You're standards are twisted if you don't thunk Mumei and Bae are small for an anime girl. Kiara is probably around the standard for "average" and Mumei and Bae are significantly smaller than her. If you put Mumei and Bae in a JS anime like raildex they wouldn't feel out of place at all.

>>39468986

>>39470309
Don't they have a topic? Long before hololive got its?

>>39470509
They've already been doing this. You think kpoppers don't inflate twitter shit just because they couldn't see the view number? Like-fagging and fake boost/engagement have long been a thing there.

>Mumei
>Mori
>...Fauna
God fucking dammit, why not Bae or Ina instead of Fauna?

>>39470527
Settings > accessibility > display

>>39470629
Eat shit faggot.

>>39470615
disgusting taste

>>39470411
>have fantastic design
>get lots of art
Add in her pooularity and you have a recipe for success.
I want a shirogal in hololive too

>>39470629
Probably because Ina is dead and if they used Bae here, the last cover would be Fauna and Kronii and it would be a disaster
This way at least Bae can carry Kronii

Important question.
Can we track Santa here during Christmas?
Does it count as numberfagging to track Santa on NORAD? I think they stream something, that would make him a Virtual Youtuber on the run if he's being CGI'd in.

>>39470516
>500k views
>5.6k likes
kek

>>39469853
If Twitter (maybe) and Tesla (unlikely) go bankrupt his share of Spacex is like 50 Billion or more. Money doesn’t mean shit to him past a certain point. Shitposting on Twitter seems like as good a hobby as collecting watches or building mega yachts

>>39470714
>Ina is dead
She's still recording music though

>>39470629
you mean instead of mumei (#1 annoying voice in hololive after kobo)

Evening, anons. Can i request holo's (any talent) schedules for this christmas?

>>39470621
Oh, does Hololive have a topic now? Well in either case I agree that a topic can also overflate twitter views

>>39468655
>>39468826
So they will be releasing 3 covers in 3 days on the official channel? Pretty awful for the algo, they should have really put these songs on the talent's channels.

>>39470777
Sir this is the numbers thread

>>39469974
Wasn't made for numbers

>>39470777
Nijiseethe

If it counts just scrolling past the tweet as a view then it's more irrelevant than it already is.

>>39470821
So what? Retards we're doing tierlists about which voices they like and which they don't like some hours ago lmao

>>39470527
They’re not in the mobile site yet, might be rolling out.

Another thing: did they just take “Latest” out from the search?
>pic related

>>39470705
Pink Cat has done nothing wrong.

>>39470783

>>39470766
Eh, I'm pretty sure he does that retarded thing that the new-rich tend to do:
>don't hold any liquid wealth, but put it all into assets, while your supply of liquid cash for your day-to-day and month-to-month expenses comes from medium-term loan agreements taken every few months
Where if he gets in a situation where he fucks up and needs liquidity fast, he's fucked sideways personally. It's a trend in Silicon Valley to act retarded like that. So you're kind of right, but he could be stupid enough to fuck that up.

>>39469310
>>39469528
>>39469342
her pronunciation could use some work.

>>39470871
>we're
yikes!

>>39470613
>raildex
They famously buffed one of the characters in Railgun.
I agree, they're smaller than Kiara, but that doesn't make them small.

>>39470416
>HoloEN is out of commission.
I know it's played out by now, but watching the wheels fall off of HoloEN was bizarre.
There wasn't even a final yab, just small cuts and missed opportunities.

>>39470873
Still got it on PC.

>>39470919
my point didn't change

>>39470879
Bae stole Mumei's towa duet...it was her turn...

>>39470873
Wtf this update stinks, I want to go back to previous version

>>39470784
Maybe? Musk's takeover has been all kinds of shitty, so if they removed the topic hololive got I wouldn't be surprised.

>Pekora shill and watchalong
>Miko rest
>Aki's new outfit overlapped by pero shill
>Big Collab on gozaru channel
No gold for Holo today

>>39470701
Not my fault Fauna can't sing for shit and her music does poorly
She has other strengths like ASMR but singing is certainly not one

>>39470942
In terms of like, hitting top-tier JP, or in terms of being successful even now, because the former is fair while the latter is extremely retarded as a take

>>39470516
>almost 500k views to 5.6k likes
>meanwhile over 400k views to 33k likes

>>39471028
And you're still gonna have to deal with it faggot

>>39471017
easy gold for vox

>>39470723
This post is glowing red and green in an alternating and festive pattern.
Damned elves.

>>39470339
Petra don't have 30k likes on every tweet at all. Most of her tweets are between about 1k, with being over 1k depending on whatever the tweet is about

>>39470990
It's gonna happen, don't worry. I hope for a j-rock orisong. I would say rock but I don't think hololive will ever do one.

>>39471060
So, why are >we happy that a song is going to have shit numbers? Just because Fauna is in it? What has this thread become...

So we're numberfagging twitter now?

>>39470516
>>39471033
Why are Japs so allergic to pressing the like button on every platform?

>holos averaged 1% views to like ratio
>Niji averaged 10%
Why is Nijisanji more likeable?

>>39471121
Numbers are numbers

>>39471135
bots

>>39471060
Unfortunately, but if it flops it's 100% Fauna's fault

>>39471116
It's going to have shit numbers even if it fucking had Ina because the song itself is one of MitcheM's worse songs and it's not nearly as known as, say, Snow Halation. It's also on the main channel.

>>39471131
Why are westoids so adhd they can't help but press the red heart button on every single fucking thing
A like is a special thing. It shouldn't be given out so carelessly or you diminish it's meaning.

>>39470883
Uh. Do you think old wealth holds a lot of cash reserves or something? Did you get this from reading Reddit posts about taking loans? You think someone with his assets would be “fucked sideways” if he “needs liquidity”? This is so stupid I don’t know where to start. Just shut up man you obviously have no experience with this

>>39471135

>>39470516
You want to know what's funny, I looked into kuzuha's tweets first since he's the popular guy and I first thought 300-400k views per posts was high until I saw Pekora and Miko. I haven't check marine and the other first armies

>>39470879
Thanks anon. You got any other?

>>39471159
>muh elon

>>39469191
Her likes and retweet is giga culled wtf

>>39471121
I mean, it proved that niji fans likes tweets more than holos but the fact that there's more views on holos per posts while their likes is shit means that they have more

>MINDSHARE

>>39471190
>westoids
nijiEN's fanbase is mostly chinese.

>>39471206
Here is IRyS as well, I don't know if any other holos have put something out.

>Mori having to overlap her own song cover due to a sponsored stream
>can't even shill it in chat due to it being a sponsored stream

>>39471197
>Do you think old wealth holds a lot of cash reserves or something?
relative to total assets, no, but as a flat amount, yeah
>You think someone with his assets would be “fucked sideways” if he “needs liquidity”?
Only because he's especially retarded, but yes

>>39471281
>>MINDSHARE
Excuse you, we use chairs here.

People sure do love Gura's pissy cunny.

>>39471033
The power of a mainly female fanbase.

holy mother of auto tune

keep in mind these numbers are considered "good" engagement rates

Pekora's retweet of argentina pekora has over 1.4M and only 30k ish likes while vox's tweet on luxiem anniversary has 1.3M views and only 75k likes.

Not to mention, Ina's return tweet only got 80k likes with 2.5M views

This just isn't a very good song.

.... how many views for vox cumscare?

The MV is pretty good with lots of animation. Does that usually help?

>>39471389
Why is Linkedin so powerful

Aki has a new outfit reveal today? What?

>>39471281

>>39471447
It's a new hairstyle.

I thought Fauna's singing was going to ruin it but the song itself is worse. Who chose it?

Well not even mixer could save Fauna

>>39471447
just a hairstyle.

>>39471121
Chumbuds can only numberfag twitter now.

>>39471206
here is friend´s
https://twitter.com/shirakamifubuki/status/1605696330831392768

It has Mori buff so it will btfo the shit with irys debuff.

>>39471529
None of their voices are suited for the song.

when will they stop covering a japanese song?

>>39471656
When Cover stops being a Japanese Company.

>>39471656
december 25 maybe?
thats would be all of them with ina and gura

>>39470629
This but instead of replacing Fauna, replace Mori with Kronii.

>>39471656
When English covers stop being a massive PITA to do.

>>39471656
When it's affordable to license western music.

>>39471656
cover can't afford english songs

As usual song sounds a lot better when it's not a premiere, but still not great honestly. I do like the MV quite a bit though, pretty cute and unique compared to most 2d MVs

>>39469739
show me aqua's and marine's pinned tweets

>>39471759
Kronii would be an even worse fit for the song.

>>39471656
Ask American music companies stop being shitter with others trying to do their english covers

>>39470723
You're RP'ing as Mumei.

>>39471656
Pretty sure peak vtuber moment will be when some corpo releases an All I Want for Christmas is You official cover.

>her voice doesn't fit the song
Is this a new cope?

>>39471777
Literally in JASRAC, and if they want to go through Western routes, a literal one girl act is able to do it while handling it properly to the point she can post her covers for sale/streaming on Spotify/iTunes, Annapantsu.

>>39469804
this man has a wife and a kid. why would he cover a song about his love for pekora in earnest in this case?

>1m+ average
kneel

>>39471922
>Literally in JASRAC
Wonder if it actually works like that.

>>39471921
that's how we cope with the fact that Fauna is the worst singer in EN

>>39471855
I genuinely want to see what numbers Santa will get.
https://youtu.be/mzOIVqs_Exs
He's fucking doing it again this year.

>>39471922
She ain't handling shit, you think Disney actually gives her perms? Lol, lmao

She's just too beneath their notice

>>39471841
Cover being incompetent is on them
https://youtu.be/kbK4xCUCHPw

>>39470879
Thank God she lives in a meme country. I wouldn't be able to watch her Christmas streams if they were on a real timezone.

>>39471656
western perms requires social interactions and japanese companies can't comprehend this

>>39471922
>a literal one girl act is able to do it while
she isn't a corporation. there are different rules for entities of that size.

>>39470205
thats because nijiniggers with their small dog syndrome like and rt with all their alt accounts

>>39470537
Regarding Tempus? Not a fan of them or female collabs but their /numbers/ seem to be stable now and the parties involved made their mind, HoloEN purists will argue that they cause the recline and sisters will just say it's seasonal stuff or HoloEN getting lazy.
Regarding HoloEN? Yeah they can still pull some good /numbers/ if they try, but at this point it's unlikely that things will fix themselves. Western vtubing is on a slow recline and I believe that HoloEN is the only one who can break into the mainstream and give the whole hobby a boost. More specifically EN3.

>>39471922
Well, it's clear that not all songs are so easily done, because after the nightmare that was the Country roads cover to get perms for, I doubt Cover wants to touch another English cover song.
Also, there are rules that make having an MV make a cover song 1000x more odious to do than just having it on streaming services, if I'm not misremembering the mess of rules wrt this shit.

>>39472000
>you have to manually approach Disney

If you’re done being retarded, you would realize that there is the Harry Fox agency that handles music rights on the behalf of almost every Western musician.

>>39470879
>male collab
of course

>>39472135

>>39471825
Doesn't matter. Song's already shit, at least I'd get to see the three together.

I got all the EN3 girls pregnant and they wont be allowed to debut until all of our children are born.

So now we are numberfagging tweets ?

>>39472102
>Western vtubing is on a slow recline
Eh, I disagree. Not that I'm saying it's on an incline, either, mind you.
It's just in a stable path. It's not dying, but it's not thriving, either. It's just, a new normal thing. At least, in the West. It'll have fits and spurts and growths and hits, but it's been over two years now. It's seen MULTIPLE bubbles come and go over the run of the last two years. It's stabilizing at a pretty solid place, not "JP" levels of high engagement, but decent when measured against anything else.

thoughts?

>>39471135
>holochads content with the popularity of their oshi like on 1 account only, dont have to prove anything
>nijisisters desperate for attention on their oshi like on all their accounts
it's that simple

>>39467334
Holy brrats are fucking delusional

>>39471841
What are you talking about?
There are literally hundreds of covers of even recent music on Youtube and various streaming platforms.
And that's ignoring the fact that a big chunk of well known Christmas songs are so old that nobody owns the copyright to them anyway.

>>39472101
Sync vs mechanical license is a thing, but she puts hers on Youtube as well. I’ve already gone through this argument many times, but it’s very straightforward to do, especially if you should have management who’s entire role in life is to handle it. However, Cover is an incompetent company full of drooling retards that is held afloat off the back of their scouting department, so they are incapable of handling it.

>>39461413
there are no good morning voices.

>>39471759
Come to think of it, why wouldn't they arrange the covers in such a way that NOT sings one and CHAD sings another?

>>39471977
How is he so powerful?

>>39472332
pekora's scratchy throat hort morning voice....

>>39472234
Only chumbuds doing this btw

>>39472338
Because NOT already exists, and so does CHaD.
Why would you use pre-existing groups when you have a shot to make a new one? The ideal is to make a superdense web of networks, not to stick to one or two winners while letting the rest atrophy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2E6DzkvxAM
>Mixed gender slumber party
EN gold let's gooo
Hope Zaion and Kotoka have a lot of fun with the guys~

>>39472332

>>39471977
ok that's sus...
why does he have 1.5M views on average on tweets when he has only 800K followers?

>>39469890
>The difference is that unlike crypto you can't just make movements against corporate purchase and then back out of it at the last minute, there are laws against that sort of thing.
The problem wasn't that he was going to do this or that. You can say "I am going to buy Twitter" and the SECwill not do shit about it because it could be seen as grandstanding. His problem was that he made an actual bid on an impulse purchase decision while riding the wealth hype that he had going on at the time. Then suddenly shit deflated and he wanted to back out after realizing it was a stupid decision, so he was sued into doing it anyway.

>>39472424
Holopro is next.

>>39472424
reminder that this is what omegay wants for HoloEN

>>39472424
>cuck stream
>orgy stream
what's next?

>>39472464
>Mori 4.4K
People were predicting 3-4K yesterday when I asked so I’m pretty happy

>It's because western songs are expensive
So Cover is cheapskate, not willing to pay the song even for their millions sub channel
>It's because western songs are complicated to request permission
So Cover is lazy and incompetent

>>39471135
More like Niji sisters are desperate to make the retarded Vox and co. tweets viral, while Holobros just look at the tweets and move on.

You know... Even if Mori doesn't get the greatest numbers at least she streams. I learned to appreciate that more now than ever.

>>39472404
I don't think that is their mindset going into this.

>>39472457
You do know how retweets and the twitter algo work right?

>>39472483
>>39472499
very organic

>>39472549
It should be.

>>39472526
>Cover
EN management, but yes to both

>>39472513
Didn’t mean to reply there but why YouTube?

Can pekora beat mori groove coaster number?

>>39472614
Wild to think that she used to regularly hit 400k CCV.

>>39471573
>>39472386
Nijiseethe.

Why does a 4 person Vermintide collab only have one POV?

>>39472306
I know, half of her art has her large or flat. Medium isn't on their radar.

>>39472669
they want to boost selen's averages after the past week.

>>39472424
How are they doing this? Two of them live in Japan.

>>39472686
And EOP as fuck too

>>39472710
I love additive subscriber counting so fucking much

What a good, reliable website

>>39472404
I mean, even if they make a NOT and a CHaD group for the covers, Kiara and Ina aren't exactly begging for song views, they're not "left to die"

>>39471977
Fuwa
>800K followers
>1M-2M ineractions per tweet
Pekora
>1.4M followers
>500K interactions on average
Fuwa has (proportionately speaking) 6-7 times more views on his tweets than Pekora.
Why?

>>39472424
>"There's the new meta, guys! Let's milk it into the ground!"
*sigh*

>>39472778
fuwa is more popular

>>39472710
You know. For only 10 chuubas in EN they can be the strongest branch. They deserve more support.

>>39472556
Nobody knows how the twitter algo works anon
That's the thing.

>>39472744
Hey now, I'm English northern, even

>>39472710
>50 million fans
omegay made this

>>39470219
Sasuga nijibeggars

>>39472778
Seasagis don't use twitter

>>39472778
Twitter is a social network primarily for women. Coincidentally, and totally unrelated, it's also a nasty place filled with gossip, cancellation, cliques, etc.

>>39472742
Probbably just everyone on voicechat but in bed.

>>39472778
Twitter is Niji home turf

when is the holoearth concert? convert the time to west coast burgerfag, please?

>>39472806
No. Pekora has more followers than Fuwa.

>Cover announced that gura will be on hiatus except for tweeting
>People could see tweets view count now
Is Elon Musk a chumbud?
Is there other rrats that could explain this?

>>39472710
>gura alone is 8.5% of that

>>39467412
I'm sure you do

>>39472669
Rosemi is playing on twitch also

>>39472861
Yet she has more followers, retard.

It's over, Mel got her

Wow for a collab with Mysta this sure has terrible numbers

>>39472911
>follower cope

>>39472710
I don't feel like checking every channel, but is this with holostars included.

>>39472887
Literally. Elon fired a bunch but clearly those who remained are still boosting niji.

>>39472990
Sisters don't want to watch Verminetide, in a collab with girls, at 9 am

5K DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>39472911
That's what AIfags also coped when Nijis were trashing her in CCV and VODs.

>>39473005
I don't think it would even change if it had them

>>39472778
>>39472806
popular than kuzuha?

>>39472973
It was supposed to be wamy...

Mori on the tally with a shill stream.

>>39473058
yes

>>39472996
>sister cope

>>39473079
Cripple tally I meant.

>>39473059
That one is just Ina and Wamy together, drinking sake. Calli and Ina had tea and invited Mel.

>>39471438
It's where the jobs are.

>>39472332
>>39472360
https://youtu.be/kFvTdorqpT0

>>39471344
ToT

>>39473058
Kuzuha's viewers do have a more even male:female ratio than fuwa's, who are predominantly women.

>>39473047
Wrong allusion. AI already fell off by that time and no one watched her.

>>39471981
No, it doesn't. Just because you have JASRAC rights doesn't mean that you have rights to worldwide distribution. Always read the terms of use for copyrighted material.

>>39473079
>Literally the only holomem streaming at a prime timeslot right now
Grim

>>39472911
>>39472972
Holos has greater overlap on twitter users

>>39471777
For cover/parody purposes, English-speaking countries' songs are published under a "compulsory license." Anyone can remake the songs however they like as long as they don't use the original recording and they pay songwriter royalties. Only retarded management is stopping the girls from doing all the songs they like.
t. songwriter

>>39473251
Dont worry, she'll still btfo irys in 20 minutes.

Hex 2k

Tweet views were a mistake

>>39467058
Recent clip numbers
>>39438302
>>39438330
>>39438351
>>39438366
>>39438388
>>39438388

>>39473332
DORYYYAAAA?

>>39473251
What's grim is the 4 person single POV collab barely above 5k.

>>39473289
Minus Australia I think?
Regardless holoEN should cover an ABBA song, since they can actually sing in English.

>>39473333
the sane posters will understand that it's completely meaningless soon enough.

>>39467058
holo gold contenders

>22 Lui hostclub, Watame announcement reverse totsu
>26 Holoearth concert
>27 Kanata debut anniversary
>29 Watame debut anniversary
>31 Hololive NY stream

niji gold contenders

>23 Kohaku Todo 3D debut
>25 SMC live
>29 NJU 2022 day 1 (whole day free)
>30 NJU 2022 day 2 (30 mins free)
>31 NJU 2022 day 3 (30 mins free)

>>39473312
IRyS is doing interactive fan submission content isn't she?

>>39473051
Eyeballing it the stars have about 2.5 million subs put together so they aren't entirely insignificant

>>39473372
overlap hell unlike hololive en rn

>>39473058
kuzuha 1.2m followers.
picrel salome twitter numbers 1m followers.

>>39473408
>Lui hostclub
what went wrong?

>>39473196
Nah this is a bullshit excuse. Nijisisters work at twitter. Dont believe me? Look up who is the director for twitter JP. Bitch has pronouns in her bio. Who do you think she favours more?
We already know that trends and topics were curated. That's why hololvie didnt have one for years but somehow nijisanji did. I thought japan was different but troons do work even there apparently.And they obviously push nijis and k-pop hard. While sabotaging holo at the same time.

What kind of numbers do we expect from Vox's Christmas karaoke for the record Mysta got 30k on his and Luca got 18k on his https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRDL7y-4XXI

>>39473430
She only has 3k fans.

>>39467098
>DECEMBER 2022 GOLDS
1) Aqua (Hololive) - 74,863 - Birthday totsumachi
2) Miko (Hololive) - 43,734 - Molly Online w/Suisei
3) Pekora (Hololive) - 119,225 - 2 million subs celebration 3D
4) Toya (Nijisanji) - 108,918 - Niji MK Cup rules & lottery
5) Pekora (Hololive) - 65,711 - Fate/Grand Order gacha
6) Mio (Hololive) - 69,368 - New outfit reveal
7) Mio (Hololive) - 88,166 - 4th anniversary 3D live
8) Fubuki (Hololive) - 34,626 - Fate/Grand Order gacha
9) Hisui (Nijisanji) - 43,193* - 3D debut
10) Hex (Nijisanji) - 59,875 - Debut stream
11) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 177,944* - Niji MK Cup qualifiers
12) Miko (Hololive) - 55,852 - Party Panic collab w/Polka, Fubuki & Suisei
13) Toya (Nijisanji) - 86,262 - Niji MK Cup finals rules & lottery
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 65,176 - Announcement stream
15) Fulgur (Nijisanji) - 30,227 - Statement on Yugo graduation
16) Miko (Hololive) - 46,343 - Pokemon Scarlet egg hatching
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 110,266 - New outfit reveal
18) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 195,196 - Niji MK Cup finals
19) Pekora (Hololive) - 50,805 - Pokemon Violet w/Koyori
20) Pekora (Hololive) - 62,091 - Fate/Grand Order gacha
21) Towa (Hololive) - 47,733 - Startend off-collab
22) Watame (Hololive) - 39,051 - Clubhouse 51 gyakutotsu

>PER COMPANY
15x: Hololive
7x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
6x: Pekora
3x: Miko
2x: Mio, Nijisanji, Toya
1x: Aqua, Fubuki, Fulgur, Hex, Hisui, Towa, Watame

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
235x: Hololive
109x: Nijisanji
6x: Indie, Neo Porte
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
57x: Pekora
24x: Miko
19x: Kuzuha
18x: Aqua
17x: Nijisanji
16x: Salome, Subaru
10x: Marine
8x: Mio, Toya
7x: Suisei
6x: Hal, Hololive, Kanata
5x: Flare, Fuwa, Gura, Koyori, Noel, Towa
4x: Chloe, Korone, Okayu, Polka
3x: Ayame, Choco, Fubuki, Lui, Mayuzumi, Mel
2x: Ange, Botan, Ibrahim, Iroha, Lamy, Laplus, Maimoto, Mito, Mori, Mysta, Nene, Nerumero, Shion, Sora, Tsukasa, Vox, Watame, Yashiro
1x: AI, Akabane, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Fulgur, Furen, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hex, Hisui, Hoshikawa, Kaida, Lain, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Moona, Nagao, Naruse, Natsume, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Ui, Yorumi, Zeta

>>39473439
out of?

>>39473485
anything lower than 60k is a failure

>not even 2k waiting for irys
UHHHHHHHh?

>>39473472
She's not Towa

>>39473509
So Nijisanji can still win if it gets a blowout from here on out

>>39473472
No one really cares about holoX without laplus, I mean koyori's 4 man collab didn't even get fucking podium kek

>>39473548
4k

>>39473333
Since Hololive is losing on this number, it will be over soon

>>39473548
It's IRyS. She still has to show off her new model because a lot of casual fans still think she's a goblina.

>>39473509
>2022 SILVERS
>PER COMPANY
234x: Hololive
106x: Nijisanji
6x: VSPO
5x: Indie
4x: Neo Porte
1x: PRISM Project

>PER STREAMER
53x: Pekora
37x: Miko
28x: Kuzuha
22x: Marine
15x: Subaru, Suisei
11x: Gura, Salome
10x: Nijisanji
8x: Hololive
7x: Fubuki, Korone, Toya
6x: Aqua, Botan, Fuwa
4x: Koyori, Lize
3x: Flare, Hal, Lamy, Lui
2x: Haachama, Kanae, Kanata, Leos, Luna, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Noel, Shiina, Towa, Tsukasa, Tsuna, Vox, Watame
1x: Akina, Akira, Alban, Amelia, Aster, Ayame, AZKi, Beni, Choco, Chronoir, Debi, Ema, Gaku, Gatchman, Genzuki, Hayato, Hinano, Hololive Indonesia, Hoshikawa, Iofi, Ina, Iroha, IRyS, Kaela, Kanae, Karuta, Kiara, Kronii, Laplus, Lauren, Levi, Matsuri, Mio, Mito, Moona, Nari, Nene, Nerumero, Okayu, Oliver, Ponpoko, Ramune, Ren, Rion, Ririmu, Risu, Ritsuki, Roboco, ROF-MAO, Rushia, Sara Nagare, Shion, Suzuya Aki, Toko, Uki, Ver, Warabeda, Yashiro, Yui

>>39473604
Anon, she had 90k people look at it, what else can she do?

>>39473633
>2022 BRONZES
>PER COMPANY
229x: Hololive
108x: Nijisanji
6x: Indie, Neo Porte
2x: 774 Inc., Noripro, VSPO
1x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
42x: Miko
34x: Subaru
32x: Pekora
30x: Kuzuha
17x: Marine
12x: Salome
10x: Gura, Nijisanji
8x: Toya
6x: Koyori
5x: Fubuki, Hal, Lamy, Okayu, Suisei
4x: Aqua, Botan, Chloe, Korone, Mori, Shion
3x: Amelia, Choco, Hayato, Iroha, Lize, Lui, Rushia, Sasaki
2x: Ayame, Fuwa, Gwelu, Hololive, Kanata, Kiara, Kobo, Mio, Mito, Mumei, Mysta, Nerumero, Nijisanji English, Nui, Shiina, Tamaki, Towa, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi
1x: Aia, Aki, AZKi, Dola, Enna, Flare, Gaku, Gatchman, Haachama, Ibrahim, Ike, Kaede, Kaida, Kanae, Kazaki, Kyoko, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Magni, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Mel, Meloco, Met, Minase, Noel, Nose, Patra, Petra, Polka, Ponpoko, Ponto, Rikiichi, Roboco, Rosemi, Ryushen, Sora, Sumire, Tsukasa, Ui, Voltaction

>>39473408
Add Vox karaoke to the list, he's doing one tonight

>>39473651
Graduate

>>39473692
>42x: Miko
Bronze Queen

OH NO NO NO NO NO NO
[Spoiler]my family caught me looking up this screenshot and now they think I'm blowing my money on investing in obscure Japanese companies[/spoiler]

>>39473716
50k floor

>>39473736
OOHNONONONONONONO ANON

numberfag prtimes page views. HoloX announcement numbers

>>39473736
>stock price climbing again
holokek status?

>>39473736
Do they know you're a fuckup who can't spoiler correctly?

>>39473736
Bro

>>39472039
Kamitsubaki and Riot really are putting in the work to make Vsingers work. I wonder just what kind of routine they get up to to raise their talents besides the obvious singing lessons.

>>39473736
sigh

>>39473548
IRyStochads are mostly well adjusted people who are spending with their families and girlfriends. So expect lower numbers until the new year.

>>39473736
>fucks up in front of family
>fucks up spoilers
shameful display

>>39473736
spoiler reps...

>>39473736
Spoilerchama... your family reps...

>>39472326
What? No the fact you need a sync license is the entire problem. In theory you have to get permission from the publisher unlike a mechanical license. And even the statutory mechanical rate is what 0.0006 per stream? Do the math on a 1M stream cover and it starts to cost actual money.

>>39473805
tempis

>>39473809
>nijiniggers in charge of math

>>39473736
>09:47:33
hmmm either seanig or

I know the word's overused, but this is pretty fucking grim.

>>39473736
Anon, your Ctrl + S rep ...

>>39473289
Not if you add visuals and post to YouTube. Technically that requires a sync license from the publisher. Also it costs money either way

>>39473992
Minecraft is not buff material because those fucking retards ruined it even worse than it already was by making it a creative server

Mel mori cover soon